Justin Trudeau praises a World War II veteran of the Waffen SS, and then the ADL says it's not even close to being a "Nazified extremist group." And yet, the Canadian Prime Minister is out there apologizing.
00:24:54.240Tell me which one Ron DeSantis or Nikki Haley are going to win.
00:24:57.960And here's their here's their very serious delusion that they need to get over right now.
00:25:03.160Because Donald Trump won Wisconsin, because Donald Trump won Michigan, because Donald Trump won
00:25:09.180Pennsylvania and damn near won them all again in 2020 does not mean you can.
00:25:13.780I have gone over the maps of Wisconsin, which they very clearly think is the easiest target.
00:25:18.280I have gone over the maps, Jack, since 1980 over and over.
00:25:23.160You could take Reagan's map in Wisconsin and overlay it with Donald Trump's map in 16 and very with the exception of a few counties in 2020.
00:25:34.080Yet when you look at other Republican performance at the presidential level, at the Supreme Court statewide level, they get wronged.
00:25:41.940And the reason is they cannot win in these areas where some of these voters that I was just talking to you about exist and and rarely vote unless somebody like Donald Trump comes out.
00:25:53.000And by the way, more than 10 to one, when you ask those voters in those surveys that we were talking about, who would you come out and vote for, even though you're not a likely vote?
00:26:07.460There are simply not enough suburban votes that they're going to swing to Haley or DeSantis to outdo getting killed in Douglas, in Bayfield, in Ashton, up in what we call lumberjack country.
00:26:20.000They're going to get slaughtered there.
00:26:21.540They're still not going to win Racine by a larger margin like they think.
00:26:25.000They're still not going to win Kenosha by a larger margin.
00:26:32.280They're making the same flawed, illogical argument we heard Democrats make after Obama, who won Indiana and darn near won Missouri.
00:26:41.800And moving forward, you heard it in 2016 and 2020, Jack.
00:26:45.840Hillary Clinton and Joe Biden both could win Indiana.
00:26:48.340They can boast in a state like Missouri.
00:26:50.280And at the end of the day, what happened?
00:26:51.740Trump romped them in both of those states.
00:26:54.080So they were trying to apply the Obama principle to other people, and that is now what never Trump is trying to do when it comes to the Ross Belt, Wisconsin, Pennsylvania.
00:27:53.220No matter how much you try to sell a candidate as, you know, Trump and the MAGA without the baggage and the negativity, maybe to more traditional voters, some of that is negative when it comes to Donald Trump.
00:28:07.960So who really, no offense, who cares about their opinion?
00:28:10.520They're going to come out, and they're going to have to make an A-B test.
00:28:12.740In order to win a presidential election, you have got to bring out these people.
00:28:18.000And they don't – those things that are seen as negatives by most of us in this business and, you know, the talking heads and the more high participation, high interest voters, that's a positive to those people.
00:28:30.720So no matter how much you try to sell someone's, you know, record as a governor or whatever it may be, her – in the case of Nikki Haley, governor and ambassador, all they see is politician, Jack.
00:28:42.180And by the way, the Republican Party affirms this suspicion on a daily basis when they hear about the people, leaders in the Republican Party stabbing Donald Trump in the back, not sticking up for him against the man, what these people see as, you know, the man.
00:29:00.180And every time they do that, it reaffirms to them that the party can't be trusted, and their people can't be trusted.
00:29:09.660They just – yeah, of course, they know he was president, and they view him as a Republican, but he's just a different animal.
00:29:16.300And, Rich, the very important reason that I bring this up has nothing to do with the Republican primary.
00:29:23.680It has everything to do with the fact that we should just call it what it is.
00:29:28.060This is probably Donald Trump's last election, 2024.
00:29:31.320Regardless of how it goes, he's currently poised to win, all right?
00:29:33.920All the data tells us he's currently poised to win.
00:29:36.580But there will be a party and a movement that takes over the party after Trump.
00:29:42.020And the big fight that I see right now is who is in charge of that.
00:29:47.660Are we going to have a party that actually represents workers, that represents middle class, that represents the people of this country, or are we going to go back to the same old same – because the establishment's still there.
00:29:58.560The establishment's still got their money, and they just – we saw they tried to take down Paxton.
00:30:02.320That didn't go too well for them down in Texas, but they're going to keep trying.
00:30:06.580Last minute, Rich Barris, where can people go to follow you, get more information, all the data on these polls because you're the only person that actually releases it?
00:30:15.700The best place to go, Jack, is peoplespundent.locals.com, peoplespundent.locals.com.
00:30:21.740That's where you can find out all the information, the public polling project, and get it first, by the way.
00:30:27.620So, again, the best place is locals, peoplespundent.locals.com.
00:30:36.040Do you think the Democrats stick with Biden, or do they try to parachute Newsom in?
00:30:40.940They're in a catch-22 because Joe Biden is still the strongest candidate to run against Trump, and I know it sounds crazy with 60-plus percent saying he's too old.
00:33:06.880We've seen a scrubbing of the ADL website with all references to the Azov Battalion being a neo-Nazi military unit based in Ukraine.
00:33:16.540This is all out of this kind of hypocritical convenience.
00:33:20.780Nazis of yesterday are now whitewashed and cleansed of their past sins because they may be useful in the current geopolitical struggle against Russia.
00:33:30.260I mean, anyone who has studied history or knows basic history knows that if you were a so-called Ukrainian partisan between 1941 and 1945,
00:33:39.080you were most likely a Nazi collaborator.
00:33:41.300You were most likely working with the Waffen-SS as the individual who was welcomed into the Canadian parliament was.
00:33:47.740This is a nationalism in Ukraine that is rooted in the ideas of Stefan Bandera.
00:33:53.400This is an individual who and his supporters who killed and massacred Jews across Ukraine, even their fellow Slavs.
00:34:02.060They killed and massacred Poles across Ukraine.
00:34:05.440This is a movement that should be repulsive to any supposed liberal in Canada or elsewhere.
00:34:12.800But obviously, for the day and age, the real boogeyman is Russia, is Putin.
00:34:17.320And if you're anti-Russia and Putin, they will excuse all past sins.
00:34:21.000And the ADL will be completely silent as this goes on.
00:34:24.880Well, it seems to me like this is one of those exceptions that proves the rule because there was a whole controversy over the ADL.
00:34:35.740And Elon Musk calls them out a couple.
00:34:38.020It's like, what, like two weeks ago, we just had this entire news cycle and they want us to forget about it
00:34:42.980because they started claiming that you can't put ads on X.com or I call it Twitter by X now because of the rise of extremism.
00:34:52.100And yet these reports can't actually seem to pin down anything or it's these like low-level accounts that get no traction or engagement
00:34:58.680that you have to actually go search and find versus we've got the Parliament of Canada actually doing something like this.
00:35:06.920But Greenblatt, who himself was an Obama staffer, has no problem with this whatsoever.
00:35:15.580Yeah, the ADL is a completely politicized institution.
00:35:19.360Some would argue it's always been a politicized institution.
00:35:22.180They claim to be fighting against defamation.
00:35:24.780They are the biggest spreaders of defamation against many, particularly conservative Americans,
00:35:30.360right-wing leaning Americans, accusing them baselessly of anti-Semitism.
00:35:34.700They've accused, you know, American Jews of being anti-Semitic even because they don't tow the left-wing dogma that the ADL does,
00:36:00.220It's a left-wing pressure group masquerading as a civil rights organization.
00:36:04.560And their silence on the overt and blatant Nazism that is very pervasive in the Ukrainian regime with the Azov Battalion and then even historically with some of these, you know,
00:36:15.900these former Nazi collaborators who are now in Canada or wherever else, it just goes to show that they are going to pick and choose.
00:36:22.520They will go after someone for making a harmless joke.
00:36:25.280They will go after someone because they brush shoulders with someone who may have said something wrong.
00:36:29.560But they will completely ignore out-and-out Nazis because those individuals happen to be beneficial for their worldview at the present.
00:36:39.080None of it is based on any real principles or guiding principles.
00:36:43.220It's all based on what is convenient politically for the neoliberal world agenda.
00:36:48.440And that's what the ADL advocates for first and foremost.
00:36:52.180And, Gavin, to me, it strikes me as completely Orwellian.
00:36:56.040And I use the line, you know, we've always been at war with East Asia earlier in the program because here you have a group, the Waffen-SS, okay?
00:37:04.700Not good guys, to put it bluntly, for everyone out there.
00:37:09.260And these were, and the Waffen-SS recruited volunteer regiments in almost all of their occupied areas to fight as the German army was growing.
00:37:21.140Although, notably, and I will always say this every time we have the discussion, that Poland did not field a Waffen-SS volunteer division because no Poles were willing to do so, were willing to join.
00:37:35.600But, of course, and people will try to whitewash it and say, well, you know, the Ukrainians were trying to fight for a Ukrainian homeland.
00:37:40.940And you had people who were against the Russians, and so they fought against the Soviets.
00:37:46.080But, Gavin, here's the real point here.
00:37:49.360Why is it that it's so important to whitewash not only the previous history, but also the current battalion and the current extreme ideologies that we can find on the ground in Ukraine?
00:38:01.260The Western powers, the Western elites, they see this sort of nationalism in Ukraine, even if it is extremely Nazi sympathetic, as a useful tool.
00:38:13.520They see them as sort of the useful idiots, the cannon fodder who will, you know, charge Russian positions and get decimated day in, day out with all these failed offenses and counter offenses and whatever else.
00:38:24.400So, right now, it's just pure convenience.
00:38:30.420They see these Ukrainian nationalists, many of whom are complete neo-Nazis through and through, from their insignia to their symbols, to their ideology, to their rhetoric.
00:38:40.340I mean, these were all neo-Nazi, you know, street thugs from Kiev that they recruited.
00:38:44.620They put them into these, you know, ragtag militias back in 2014.
00:38:48.780Now they've become a wholesale part of the Ukrainian armed forces.
00:38:52.760And these are the types of groups that American taxpayer funds and NATO funds are going to support.
00:39:00.380We are literally funding and giving arms to neo-Nazis simply because they happen to be fighting the Russians.
00:39:06.660And we have a fixation on Russia that dates back to the Cold War and the Pentagon and the State Department's refusal to move beyond this sort of Cold War mindset in terms of our geopolitical agenda.
00:39:20.520Again, none of it is based on any principle.
00:39:23.180None of it is based on actually fighting for freedom or for civil rights or fighting against anti-Semitism, because as we're explaining very clearly right now on this segment, they are happy to support some of the worst and most egregious anti-Semites, literal out-and-out Nazis.
00:39:37.180If it means that it advances their agenda, likewise, they have no problem defaming, you know, plenty of, you know, constitution-loving, you know, American conservatives who have no anti-Semitic views.
00:39:48.900They're happy to label them as Nazis, as neo-Nazis, get them canceled, get them doxxed, have them lose their income, et cetera, because they pose a threat to the political system in the U.S.
00:39:59.180So this is really the state of affairs in the Western world writ large.
00:40:27.420They're definitely not former Al-Qaeda members that are taking the money and the Toyota Hiluxes and the ManPads and then using them to create their own splinter group that they're calling the Islamic State.
00:41:12.820How about instead of trying to monkey around in the business of other countries, we sit with our people at home and we make deals to ensure peace, peace within 24 hours, peace in Syria, the Middle East, get Israel and the Arab sit down.
00:41:50.640But Gavin, I have a question for you about another Gavin, because we just got the news and it only broke a few minutes before we came to air today that there had been this talk about a debate between Ron DeSantis and the governor of California, Gavin Newsom.
00:42:06.320Apparently, they were going back and forth about the requirements and the considerations, et cetera, about whether it was going to happen.
00:42:14.940Sounds like they've actually set that aside and they're moving ahead with it.
00:42:18.520And it's going to take place, we're told now, on November 30th on the flagship nightly news show of neoconservatism known as the Sean Hannity Show.
00:42:30.720So what do you think is going to happen?
00:42:33.000Do you really think that they are so terrified of Trump that they want to switch Biden out with Gavin Newsom?
00:42:44.420And give me your quick answer because we actually have to cut because Trump is actually speaking in South Carolina.
00:43:09.520This is a guy whose original political career started out very moderate.
00:43:13.420You know, he ran on the Republican line when he ran for city council in San Francisco.
00:43:17.820So they're hoping that they could, you know, kind of drag these old moderate credentials that he may have had 20, 30 years ago, bring it to the forefront and present him.
00:43:27.160Do you think it's a good move for Ron DeSantis to be to be entering into this debate with him?
00:43:32.660I think Ron DeSantis is going to do anything he can do right now to get attention, to elevate his profile.
00:43:38.680I don't think this is going to help him move numbers in any way.
00:43:41.040I think if anything, the unit party would love this to be the race.
00:43:43.920They would love for it to be DeSantis versus Newsom.
00:43:45.820And they're probably more trying to see test the waters with Newsom more than anything.
00:43:50.160But I think head to head, I think, you know, the charm and charisma of a Gavin Newsom may outweigh kind of the kind of reserved persona that is Ron DeSantis, which has been hurting him on the campaign trail.
00:44:02.680So we're going to have to see how it unfolds.
00:44:17.640But we're cutting it short for a good reason, because the next president of the United States, Donald J. Trump, is taking the stage in South Carolina.
00:44:23.420And I gladly stand up next to you and defend her still today.
00:44:32.900Because there ain't no doubt I love this land.