Human Events Daily with Jack Posobiec - September 27, 2023


EPISODE 570: EXCLUSIVE INTERVIEW W⧸ OWEN SHROYER - THE WAR ON FREEDOM OF SPEECH


Episode Stats

Length

49 minutes

Words per Minute

170.78064

Word Count

8,457

Sentence Count

661

Misogynist Sentences

2

Hate Speech Sentences

12


Summary

On September 27th, 2019, Eddie Azari was pulled over for a traffic stop in the Kensington section of Philadelphia, PA. He had a knife in his hand when he was shot and killed by one of the responding officers.


Transcript

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00:00:50.620 Looting at several popular stores in Center City and more looting here in Port Richmond.
00:00:55.600 Skyfox over what looks like a discarded merchandise situation,
00:00:58.800 all outside of a video game store there and a supermarket.
00:01:02.020 It comes the same day charges were dismissed against a former Philadelphia police officer
00:01:05.940 for fatally shooting a driver during a traffic stop.
00:01:08.760 Everybody must eat.
00:01:10.080 Everybody must eat.
00:01:11.780 Everybody must eat.
00:01:13.660 You're crazy.
00:01:16.000 Go on, boy.
00:01:17.180 Stop, son.
00:01:18.180 You're good.
00:01:19.640 Yo.
00:01:21.860 Mamas, hurry up.
00:01:24.820 Hurry up.
00:01:25.440 Jump in the car.
00:01:26.100 Jump in the car.
00:01:26.640 Jump in the car.
00:01:56.640 Jump in the car.
00:01:57.660 Jump in the car.
00:01:58.640 Uh-oh.
00:01:59.360 Uh-oh.
00:02:00.400 Uh-oh.
00:02:01.280 Uh-oh.
00:02:02.700 Damn.
00:02:04.040 Damn.
00:02:05.420 Damn.
00:02:07.980 That's, oh my God.
00:02:09.620 Got one.
00:02:11.220 Uh-huh.
00:02:12.500 Uh-huh.
00:02:14.540 Uh-huh.
00:02:16.120 Uh-huh.
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00:02:19.580 Ladies and gentlemen, welcome aboard today's edition of Human Events Daily with Jack Posobiec.
00:02:25.900 Today is September 27, 2023.
00:02:28.500 Anno Domini. We're going to get right into it.
00:02:30.360 So what you saw just there was the videos of violence and looting that went on in Philadelphia.
00:02:41.080 As you guys know, I'm from the Philadelphia area.
00:02:43.500 Port Richmond right there is where my brother lived up until just about a year or two ago and spent all of 2020 through there.
00:02:52.580 This looting, it's very clear what's happening.
00:02:55.860 Burn, loot and murder.
00:02:58.380 The organization known as Burn, Loot, Murder has now been activated for a trial run ahead of 2024.
00:03:07.020 They don't care what actually happened in this police officer-involved shooting in Philadelphia.
00:03:13.840 But we do because we care about facts around here on Human Events and we're going to talk about it.
00:03:18.380 So I want to play for you in just one second the body cam of the officer-involved shooting.
00:03:25.160 Because you had an individual, all right, Eddie Azari.
00:03:29.940 And Eddie Azari was driving his car the wrong way down through the streets of Kensington, was slamming through the streets, was chased by officers.
00:03:42.180 Officers find him.
00:03:43.700 They pull up.
00:03:45.340 Officer 1 says, show your hands.
00:03:49.040 Officer 2 yells, he's got a gun.
00:03:51.900 Officer 1, again, and curses, says, I'll effing shoot you.
00:03:56.060 He does not show his hands.
00:03:59.680 Shots are fired.
00:04:01.620 The officer pulls back from the vehicle in shock, as if there's a projectile weapon coming.
00:04:09.040 Eddie's killed.
00:04:10.760 Investigators later found that Eddie Azari was actually holding a black-handled knife in his hand.
00:04:19.880 We're going to play that body cam for you right now.
00:04:26.060 Show that, show that, I'll f***ing shoot you.
00:04:32.340 413 shots fired, shots fired, 100 West Willard.
00:04:37.700 So there you go, folks.
00:04:39.600 It's that quick.
00:04:41.300 Your partner's yelling he's got a gun.
00:04:43.620 You can't see the guy's hands.
00:04:45.680 You're there on the street.
00:04:47.420 What are you going to do?
00:04:48.440 Are you going to go home to your kids?
00:04:53.060 Or are you going to use self-defense?
00:04:59.760 Because I've seen this video.
00:05:01.940 You guys can go back and watch this clip again and again.
00:05:04.420 And you can hear him clear as day.
00:05:07.320 Clear as day.
00:05:08.220 His partner calls out.
00:05:09.340 And yes, testified to this in court.
00:05:11.120 After having the video played back for him.
00:05:13.660 Yelled, he's got a gun.
00:05:15.300 And you can see the first officer, Mark Dial, pull back, right?
00:05:20.400 Pull back from the car and then head back to his car.
00:05:24.580 So a judge threw the charges out after watching these videos yesterday in Philadelphia.
00:05:30.460 The Soros DA, Larry Krasner, with blood coming out of his everywhere, refiled charges on the officer.
00:05:39.760 And so here's the thing, folks.
00:05:42.600 If you are a police officer in the city of Philadelphia, go home.
00:05:49.000 Call out.
00:05:50.140 I'm calling for an absolute blue flu right now.
00:05:54.340 There is a war on police officers that's going on in this country.
00:05:57.740 And the city of Philadelphia, the officials of Philadelphia, the DA, and all the rest of them
00:06:02.960 have decided to throw in with the people that want to see police officers killed,
00:06:07.440 that want to see police officers arrested, that want to see their lives ruined.
00:06:11.460 Call for a blue flu.
00:06:13.140 Get out of there.
00:06:14.180 Get out of the city of Philadelphia.
00:06:15.600 And if you live in one of these cities, you need to get out immediately.
00:06:20.340 Coming up next with a good friend of mine named Owen Schroyer.
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00:08:41.020 But I'll give him what is actually his true, I think his true title.
00:08:46.360 He's a freedom fighter and a dissident.
00:08:48.960 Ladies and gentlemen, Owen Schroyer joins the program.
00:08:52.880 Owen, good to have you on, man.
00:08:55.080 Well, I appreciate that, Jack.
00:08:57.320 And the truth is that I really am a freedom fighter.
00:09:00.760 And one of the things that I've kind of learned in this fight for freedom is that I have to remember that I'm fighting for everybody's freedom here.
00:09:07.340 Even the people that hate me, even the people that hate this country, even some of the journalists that don't write friendly pieces about me.
00:09:14.040 I'm fighting for their freedom, too.
00:09:15.680 And so I really take that title, not lightly, but as an honor.
00:09:20.440 And let's just be clear here.
00:09:24.580 This regime has gone so far that they're actually throwing you in jail.
00:09:31.500 60 days, you were being sent to federal prison.
00:09:35.140 Pretty soon, if I have that right.
00:09:37.240 How did it feel to know that your work would bring you to a point like this?
00:09:44.360 I guess in a way, I'm still shocked, actually.
00:09:49.080 And I did actually hear from the government today.
00:09:51.600 I have till October 24th to turn myself in.
00:09:54.640 There are a lot of legal in and outs that are going to take place between now and then.
00:09:59.600 So I really don't know what my fate is, but the government has issued the document that I have to turn myself in by October 24th.
00:10:09.020 That happened today.
00:10:11.120 We are, of course, appealing my sentencing, which not only was two months in prison, but also a year supervised probation.
00:10:19.280 Something completely unheard of, unprecedented.
00:10:22.280 You don't get probation and jail.
00:10:24.580 Usually a judge might even offer you one or the other.
00:10:26.980 You don't get both.
00:10:27.980 So this is really an example.
00:10:29.800 This is really a precedent-setting thing.
00:10:31.540 And I think that there's two levels of me that is kind of absorbing this and responding to this.
00:10:37.160 Because you ask, well, are you shocked?
00:10:38.840 Did you ever expect this to happen?
00:10:40.300 No.
00:10:41.360 No.
00:10:42.080 And in fact, we were stunned in the courtroom, myself and my legal representation, we were stunned in the courtroom when this happened.
00:10:50.040 We were stunned when the government entered their sentencing memo asking for four months in jail.
00:10:56.000 The whole process has been stunning.
00:10:58.660 But the two levels that I absorbed this in are, one, the personal level, which is, yeah, personally, I'm shocked.
00:11:05.340 I obviously don't belong in jail.
00:11:07.180 I'm not a violent criminal.
00:11:08.560 I guess really my biggest mistake is not being a liberal Democrat and rioting during the summer of 2020 or rioting during Trump's inauguration or rioting whenever the Democrats tell me to and taking their bail funds.
00:11:18.120 I guess that's my biggest mistake is being a peaceful First Amendment activist no matter what the date is.
00:11:23.620 And apparently it doesn't even matter about January 6th because in the government sentencing memo, they quote me.
00:11:29.460 In fact, most of the 90 – I'd say 90 percent of the 30-page memo are quotes not even dealing with January 6th, not even things I said or did on January 6th.
00:11:39.200 It's things that I said on my radio show, on my talk show at Infowars.
00:11:43.760 So they listen to everything I do, and then they use that against me to sentence me to prison.
00:11:48.540 So on a personal level, obviously, I don't want to go to jail.
00:11:52.500 I don't belong in jail.
00:11:53.680 And I feel that I'm being politically persecuted and targeted by my government.
00:11:58.620 And what else am I left to assume when we watch thousands of violent criminals and rioters get no jail time?
00:12:06.480 Rarely do they even see a courtroom.
00:12:08.380 I mean I could even be more specific.
00:12:10.580 As I was being sentenced a couple Tuesdays ago – it was more than two weeks ago now, Jack.
00:12:15.540 As I was being sentenced, Democrats stormed Kevin McCarthy's office.
00:12:20.360 Now, do you think any of them will see inside a courtroom, let alone a jail cell?
00:12:25.080 Hmm, I doubt it.
00:12:26.060 David Hogg disrupts Congress.
00:12:27.800 Do you think he's going to see inside a courtroom?
00:12:29.780 What about Jaden X, another January 6th defendant?
00:12:32.960 He's over in Ukraine covering it.
00:12:34.920 He actually went into the Capitol.
00:12:36.160 He actually vandalized the Capitol.
00:12:38.080 Do you think he's going to get a sentencing like me?
00:12:39.760 So what else am I left to assume that I'm being targeted and persecuted by my government?
00:12:43.880 But that's the one personal level.
00:12:45.700 Here's the level that actually breaks my heart even more.
00:12:47.960 However, I'm concerned that future Americans are going to have to be afraid of their speech.
00:12:53.440 I'm afraid that future members of the media are going to have to be afraid that what they say is going to wind them up in a jail cell.
00:13:00.720 Now, I've wanted to be a member of the media ever since I was in high school.
00:13:04.100 I was a senior editor at my high school paper.
00:13:07.140 I created the morning news that still runs at my high school to this day.
00:13:12.340 I feel like I have accomplished my American dream.
00:13:15.880 I feel very blessed in that.
00:13:17.700 And now I have my heart breaking that future Americans, younger generation Americans, are going to have to be afraid of their government that what they might say land them in jail.
00:13:29.140 So that's kind of the two levels of the shock and awe and really heartbreaking horror that come with my sentencing.
00:13:36.060 You know, I actually did my high school morning news as well.
00:13:41.500 I was from freshman year all the way through, did it every single day.
00:13:45.880 And you look at the situation and it does set, I guess, a different precedent because you mentioned about the future of the American people and American children.
00:13:55.580 I got kids.
00:13:56.880 You know, we think about what kind of country are they going to be growing up in.
00:14:00.040 And the big question, I've seen this debated, we've got a couple of minutes in this segment, I want to hold you over.
00:14:05.240 Is the regime collapsing or is the regime getting stronger?
00:14:09.180 What is your take on that debate?
00:14:10.440 Because I've actually seen both sides of it on right now.
00:14:13.960 And I don't believe the regime is getting stronger.
00:14:17.540 I personally believe the regime is getting weaker.
00:14:20.700 This is the beast falling down into the pit and lashing out at anything it can as it plunges into the abyss with fatal fury.
00:14:32.980 But I've heard other people saying, oh, no, no, no.
00:14:35.680 The regime is stronger than ever.
00:14:37.300 You're someone who's obviously facing them directly.
00:14:40.840 What do you think?
00:14:41.460 Well, I think the drowning person's analogy is a good example, or as you're talking about it, going into the pit.
00:14:49.720 Everybody knows that sometimes there's a drowning victim that's just going crazy and they're flailing and they're flopping.
00:14:55.240 And if you're not trained on how to save them, they can end up drowning you as well.
00:15:00.160 And so there's a little bit of that going on because there's no doubt the awakening, the awareness level of the American people as far as the corruption we're dealing with,
00:15:07.880 the corruption, the different levels of it, the different avenues of it that come from our government, our media is at an all time high.
00:15:15.060 But I think that it goes both ways, even though they are, I would say, in many ways, a collapsing regime.
00:15:20.660 I think that we see that with some of the struggle they have to have these never ending, eternally funded wars from the past like they want to see in Ukraine.
00:15:29.860 There's a lot more resistance to that now.
00:15:32.040 But you also see that they are relenting as far as they're going to do everything they can to destroy their opposition.
00:15:40.880 So whether it's me or whether it's Donald Trump or whether it's Alex Jones or whether it's anybody else,
00:15:46.800 they're going to try to use the will and the power that they have in their perhaps collapsing regime days to completely destroy any dissidents and completely destroy any opposition.
00:15:58.480 So you could argue, does that show that they're weak? Does that show that they're powerful?
00:16:02.940 I think maybe it shows both. But we see this trend of the Roman Empire right now.
00:16:07.720 Well, why do we see that? Because I think people are starting to recognize that, you know, how did the Roman Empire fall?
00:16:13.100 Well, we're kind of witnessing the same thing now with what might be called the American Empire falling.
00:16:20.160 Well, I think it's exactly right. And people have pointed out mass migration, multiculturalism,
00:16:24.480 just a complete relaxation on the standards of basic human capital.
00:16:30.180 Right. We're seeing this first in our government.
00:16:33.420 But keep in mind, this is almost on every institution.
00:16:36.320 The competence crisis saying that everything needs to be equal.
00:16:40.200 We need to be egalitarian. We need to support people who can't, you know, aren't good enough or smart enough.
00:16:47.020 But we need to give them the job anyway. You know, we need to make things equitable.
00:16:50.660 Anyone can fly an airplane. Anyone can be a surgeon. Anyone can be a brain doctor.
00:16:56.920 No, no, actually, I don't think so. And this is why, by the way, that even basic services are now failing everywhere around the country.
00:17:05.120 It's because these insane ideologies, this degeneracy and this decline has seeped into everything.
00:17:12.940 We just see it in the government level first. That's why they've lost complete control of basically what they had before was soft power.
00:17:21.100 And they lost soft power because of programs like Infowars, like Human Events, like every other independent media that's out there.
00:17:29.920 Tucker Carlson going out and speaking truth to power.
00:17:33.880 So after they lost that, what do they have left? Hard power.
00:17:37.800 The power to lock up dissidents, the power to throw people in gulags.
00:17:41.180 And if you don't think gulags are coming, we've got Owen Schroyer on right now.
00:17:45.140 They're sending him to one. Last minute for this segment, Owen.
00:17:49.420 Well, again, I think that when they look at my case, I don't know if they really expected the backlash.
00:17:55.860 And I'm not sure if that's because they assume that because I'm censored on all the social media platforms
00:18:01.200 or all the Infowars programs are censored everywhere that they wouldn't get the public backlash.
00:18:05.580 And there are still people in media that are afraid to touch anything, Infowars.
00:18:10.440 There are still people in media that are afraid to touch anything, Owen Schroyer.
00:18:14.060 But the response to my case has been overwhelming.
00:18:19.180 And quite frankly, and, you know, this could be entirely wrong, and maybe you could offer your opinion on this, too.
00:18:25.700 I think that they actually ended up charging Ray Epps because of the backlash they got with charging me.
00:18:31.740 I mean, they could have charged Ray Epps forever ago.
00:18:33.760 They're going to charge Ray Epps the day they put him on the FBI's wanted list.
00:18:37.520 Hold that thought. We'll be right back.
00:18:39.540 Next segment coming up, Owen Schroyer, Ray Epps.
00:18:42.360 We're going to get into all of it after the break.
00:18:45.880 Today, you know, they talk about influencers.
00:18:48.340 These are influencers, and they're friends of mine.
00:18:52.620 Jack Posobiec. Where's Jack?
00:18:55.060 Jack. He's done a great job.
00:18:57.500 All right, Jack Posobiec back live, Human Events Daily.
00:19:03.760 And Owen Schroyer's on. He's got an interesting theory.
00:19:07.220 So we did see this massive backlash.
00:19:09.900 And I got to even say that the backlash to the Owen Schroyer sentencing and the fact that the DOJ brought up his statements on his radio show, on his talk show, at his sentencing.
00:19:23.840 Things that had nothing to do with January 6th on the ground, activity, didn't even go into the Capitol.
00:19:33.280 They brought up his opinions.
00:19:35.680 This is the issue.
00:19:36.760 They brought up his opinions, his political opinions that are protected under the First Amendment at his sentencing and essentially used this to sway the judge.
00:19:48.780 Massive backlash.
00:19:50.540 And, Owen, correct me if I'm wrong, did Elon Musk actually comment?
00:19:54.040 I think there was, like, a comment or something from Elon.
00:19:58.000 I didn't see an Elon Musk comment.
00:20:00.420 You might be thinking of Vivek Ramaswamy, who did directly confront this case and mentioned it.
00:20:06.160 But I think Elon, I think Elon, like, like, you know, commented on somebody else's tweet and was like, that's crazy.
00:20:11.980 Something like that.
00:20:13.060 Right. Vivek, though, came out full on said that he would pardon you immediately, which I have to say that he's been absolutely fantastic on that when it comes to you.
00:20:21.960 And really, every all of the other Jan 6 detainees, some of which have been held in absolute horrific.
00:20:27.520 And look, I served at Guantanamo Bay.
00:20:29.080 The conditions that these people are being held in are far worse than anything that was done at Guantanamo.
00:20:35.180 Anything that was done at Guantanamo Bay.
00:20:37.260 Those guys are taking care of, forward care of.
00:20:38.940 They get, you know, three hots and a cot.
00:20:40.620 They get they get their meals are all full Islamic compliant.
00:20:45.060 They're able to pray five times a day.
00:20:46.960 They got a soccer field built for them.
00:20:48.720 And believe me, I've been to Guantanamo and trust me, those guys are not being treated as well as are being far better than people in the D.C.
00:20:56.400 Gulag. But your theory of the case is that this indictment, which comes down on Ray Epps after we're nearly nearly three years after January 6th.
00:21:10.120 Finally, the one guy who we know demonstrably is on tape actually inciting a riot.
00:21:16.660 Right. Directly telling people to go into the Capitol.
00:21:20.460 He's finally indicted after all of this defense of Ray Epps that was done by the January 6th committee, by The New York Times.
00:21:29.300 Why do you think that they did this right after your sentencing?
00:21:36.140 Well, again, and maybe it's some narcissism here.
00:21:39.140 I'm open to criticism, but I can't help but think that they charged Ray Epps because of the backlash of charging and sentencing Owen Schroyer.
00:21:48.520 Because I do think it went a lot bigger than they expected.
00:21:52.520 And maybe they didn't expect me to take the fangs out after the sentencing because and I don't know if you want me to go into the weeds of the details of my case, but but I'll put it very simply.
00:22:03.680 I was operating in complete good faith and plenty of criticism from people.
00:22:08.800 Fair enough, saying, well, why would you operate in good faith with the government?
00:22:11.500 Why would you cooperate with the government?
00:22:12.800 Because I wanted to prove my innocence beyond a reasonable doubt.
00:22:16.460 I turned over two cell phones, which they still possess.
00:22:19.240 I responded to every electronic data request.
00:22:22.060 I sat down for question and answer sessions with the FBI.
00:22:25.740 I cooperated because I'm innocent.
00:22:28.200 There was no large plan that day, and I wanted to show complete good faith with the U.S. government.
00:22:32.860 Was it foolish of me?
00:22:33.840 That's for people to decide.
00:22:36.240 But maybe they thought I was soft because of that cooperation,
00:22:39.720 even though I just wanted to act in good faith, expecting that the U.S. government would act in good faith in responding to our good faith.
00:22:46.080 But they didn't.
00:22:46.800 It was our understanding that they were not going to push for incarceration, given my above and beyond good behavior on probation and cooperating with their investigation.
00:22:58.220 And they did it anyway.
00:22:59.320 So we had a press conference afterwards where I decided, okay, you want to stab me in the back?
00:23:04.980 You want to not act in good faith?
00:23:07.080 Then I go ahead and do a press conference afterwards with my attorney and address all the wrongdoings by the U.S. government, in our view, in the proceedings and in the sentencing.
00:23:16.600 But I can't help but believe that they probably thought that, oh, we'll sentence Owen Schroyer.
00:23:20.740 It won't be that big of a deal.
00:23:21.900 Nobody will really care.
00:23:22.840 He's banned everywhere.
00:23:23.660 But we have a very loyal audience.
00:23:26.380 And look, I've met a lot of people.
00:23:28.440 I've met you personally.
00:23:29.540 People know me.
00:23:30.260 They know I'm a nice guy.
00:23:31.380 I try to bring joy to people's lives.
00:23:33.840 And so, I mean, everybody knows that, gee, you're going after Owen Schroyer.
00:23:38.520 I mean, I'm not going to act like I'm some sort of a choir boy or a Boy Scout.
00:23:41.460 But, I mean, essentially, that's what they're doing here is going after the Boy Scout, going after the quiet boy, going after the All-American that everybody loves.
00:23:48.780 And so, I think it got a lot more backlash than they anticipated, whether it was Vivek Ramaswamy or Tim Poole making this a big story or you having me on my show or me on your show or maybe Elon Musk responding to it.
00:24:02.040 I think that there was such backlash.
00:24:03.500 And they're saying, gee, they're sentencing Schroyer to two months in jail when on January 6th it's in their sentencing memo.
00:24:10.900 He said, we're here to peacefully have our voices heard.
00:24:13.260 And they even quote in the sentencing memo say we were there to de-escalate the situation.
00:24:18.300 Obviously, the videos of Alex Jones on the bullhorn saying don't go in the Capitol, don't go into the Capitol, us trying to work with law enforcement to stop the entire thing.
00:24:26.300 By the way, the time we arrived, we were there hours after there was any breach.
00:24:30.240 So, I think it was such an egregious thing that got so much media attention that, yes, they are charging a journalist.
00:24:36.660 Yes, they are criminalizing speech that it was like, okay, well, we've got Ray Epps doing much worse than Owen Schroyer ever did.
00:24:44.260 We've got to do something about this now.
00:24:46.300 This is just too obvious.
00:24:47.600 So, that might be my narcissistic theory.
00:24:50.460 You've heard it now.
00:24:51.620 You can respond to it.
00:24:52.720 But let me just say, there are multiple levels of egregious abuses of power and criminalization of free speech in my case.
00:25:02.560 It's actually a stunning thing when you read the 30-page sentencing memo that the four sections, there are four different sections in the memo convincing this judge I need to go to jail.
00:25:13.960 And each section is about my speech.
00:25:17.180 Each section is about my speech.
00:25:20.160 So, this is a free speech case.
00:25:21.720 We are appealing it as such.
00:25:24.040 And if this has to go to the Supreme Court, Jack, then maybe that's where this belongs because we believe this is going to be one of the most important precedent-setting First Amendment cases in modern American history and maybe even in U.S. history.
00:25:37.100 Look, Owen, I think you're right, actually.
00:25:41.060 This theory and, you know, I had seen those two events happen in succession, but, you know, it's so far removed that I didn't look at it.
00:25:51.640 You know, I think you're right.
00:25:53.000 I think that they wanted to shift the attention away from you, right, to put all of it back on Ray Epps.
00:25:59.840 And at the same time, it gives them the ability to turn back.
00:26:03.400 And you're seeing this happen now where they're using this Ray Epps indictment.
00:26:06.020 And it's a slap on the wrist to go after Julie Kelly and Darren Beattie and Tucker Carlson and really anyone who asked questions, serious questions, about the things, again, that we have Ray Epps on video saying and doing.
00:26:23.420 And the real question, of course, is always this, where did Ray Epps get the idea to say and do all those things?
00:26:30.380 Was there anyone that Ray Epps was talking to that was – and they're screaming, fed, fed, fed, fed, fed, fed, fed, on January 5th, the night before.
00:26:40.200 I was there in Freedom Square that night, Owen, and I remember, you know, being on, like, a different end of the square and hearing people yelling, fed, fed, fed, fed, fed, fed.
00:26:51.060 I couldn't tell what was going on. And I do remember seeing a guy in, like, a long – I thought it was a raincoat, right, this long, gray, tan kind of coat.
00:27:01.280 I thought it was a raincoat. But then, you know, looking back, we've all seen those videos of Ray Epps.
00:27:05.560 So I'm standing on the other – it's packed, right, jam-packed that night.
00:27:08.180 And it was Ray Epps. They're screaming, fed, at him.
00:27:10.380 And the reason is because it sounds – that sounds like something a fed would say.
00:27:14.800 And so they're using this to pull away information and attention on you because they realized that by doing this to you,
00:27:24.760 what they did was essentially they made you a sort of political martyr.
00:27:29.940 And a political martyr in the sense that you are a person who legitimately didn't do anything wrong
00:27:36.640 other than exercise your First Amendment right to protest for a regress of grievances,
00:27:43.640 to go to the Capitol and have your voice heard, right?
00:27:48.560 We never saw this against the, you know, BLM.
00:27:52.160 You know, oh, and what you really should have done, what you should have done,
00:27:54.880 is put on a black mask and firebomb the Austin police station, their police department,
00:28:00.320 because then you'd probably be getting, I don't know, some kind of award right now.
00:28:03.660 Well, and, of course, we're being facetious.
00:28:07.220 You or I would never call for violent activity or criminal activity we've never had,
00:28:10.920 but is it that really the ultimate juxtaposition?
00:28:14.580 And, you know, I hear people that decry whataboutism,
00:28:17.580 but I actually completely promote whataboutism because you have no justice without whataboutism.
00:28:23.780 I mean, that is how you measure justice is you take two things and you see if justice is applied equally.
00:28:29.360 And it's clearly not in this case.
00:28:31.040 I mean, we could sit here for hours, Jack, and talk about all the different riots.
00:28:35.400 I mean, hell, you wrote a book about Antifa.
00:28:38.160 You went behind the scenes of Antifa.
00:28:40.240 You know what it is that they do.
00:28:42.040 I mean, if anybody is a domestic terror group operating on the streets,
00:28:46.340 you know as well as anybody that it would have to be them.
00:28:48.720 But notice, the Justice Department doesn't want to talk badly about them.
00:28:52.620 There's no investigation in the organization or funding of Antifa.
00:28:56.580 Hell, they don't even attempt to identify the street thugs that go out there and commit violent criminal offenses
00:29:02.900 against law enforcement officers and government buildings.
00:29:07.020 So, again, this whataboutism, I think, is the perfect settlement here of whether we have justice in this country or not.
00:29:15.480 And, you know, I think there's a larger issue aside from just the free speech issue, too.
00:29:19.280 So, there's a reason why we call it justice, and there's a reason why we have a Department of Justice.
00:29:26.320 This isn't the Department of Law, right?
00:29:29.580 Because there is a bit of a nuance there.
00:29:32.160 Because law, there's a gray area in when it's applied.
00:29:35.860 There's circumstances.
00:29:37.260 There's different things that might happen.
00:29:40.240 And so, the gray area here should be black and white.
00:29:43.160 But leftists go out and riot.
00:29:45.860 They rioted so badly in Washington, D.C.
00:29:48.300 They nearly burned down a church.
00:29:49.680 It was so bad.
00:29:50.420 It was so close to the White House that the president had to go down to the bunker.
00:29:54.720 But the media said that that was mostly peaceful.
00:29:57.760 And how many people got investigated or spent time in jail for those activities?
00:30:02.660 But, again, okay, this couldn't even be a better juxtaposition of what was happening.
00:30:07.480 As I was being sentenced, and I'm sure you were covering this at the time, Democrats stormed Kevin McCarthy's office.
00:30:15.320 Do you think any of them will see a courtroom?
00:30:16.800 The same thing they did with Brett Kavanaugh.
00:30:19.500 We saw them occupying Senate buildings, Senate offices.
00:30:23.240 Owen, I know you've got to run.
00:30:24.380 You've got your show.
00:30:25.640 We've got to move on.
00:30:26.680 But, folks, I just want to say when the knock at the door comes, if that knock at the door comes,
00:30:33.440 you can only hope that you handle it with the strength, the dignity, the character, and the grace that Owen Schroer has shown and continues to show.
00:30:46.100 God be with you, Owen.
00:30:47.600 Godspeed.
00:30:48.200 I'm going to make sure that you get a copy of the Bible while you're in there because we are going to make sure also to do everything we can to pray for you and support you throughout that entire time.
00:30:59.160 Go and support Owen Schroer.
00:31:00.760 Go support his movement.
00:31:02.000 Why?
00:31:02.440 Because Owen Schroer is supporting you.
00:31:09.620 My ear about the boring people at your office.
00:31:12.620 I'm trying to listen to the new human events with Jack Posobiec.
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00:32:32.020 Like, Owen Troyer is a political prisoner, and we've talked about how this government that we have is continually funding these forever wars all over the place.
00:32:45.140 And yet we see this list, and I want to pull it up here.
00:32:50.100 How many names?
00:32:52.720 28 senators, and these are Republicans, all voting for more funding to Ukraine.
00:33:00.220 Lieutenant Colonel Tony Schaefer is with us.
00:33:02.220 Tony, why is this so important to the ruling class in America?
00:33:08.020 Why are so many Republicans willing to shut down the entire government over funding for a war that doesn't seem to be in our direct national security interests?
00:33:19.820 Well, thanks for having me, Jack.
00:33:21.080 And I refer to Eli Lake today on the House floor outlined, I think, in a very articulate manner what the issues are.
00:33:31.780 This is not worth blood and treasure.
00:33:33.660 This is nothing of our strategic or national interests are actually jeopardized by this, what I consider a regional conflict.
00:33:41.080 What is going on is something that goes back to Obama and probably a little bit before, which is to move us in a direction, and this is not conspiracy theory.
00:33:53.780 This is the World Economic Forum and their reinvention of world order and the build back beta.
00:34:02.420 The Clintons are lining up to jump in to rebuild Ukraine.
00:34:07.500 The whole idea has been from day one is to move Ukraine out from under the Russian sphere of influence and cooperation to the EU and more extensively to the West, to this larger effort to globalize, make us all global citizens.
00:34:25.600 And that's why there's so much blood and treasure at stake from those who are trying to push this, such as the Bidens, the Clintons, and the neocons.
00:34:37.380 And at this point, I don't see any difference between the neocons and neolibs on this issue.
00:34:42.820 I think they're all trying to push towards what Obama was pushing us towards, is this larger effort to essentially subordinate the United States to this idea of global collectivism, the reinvention of capitalism.
00:35:00.160 So that's why they're pushing so hard to get us involved and keep us there.
00:35:04.580 Well, I think that's a huge part of it.
00:35:05.720 We have to point out the deep financial interest.
00:35:08.820 So you've got Hillary Clinton reappears on the world stage, and suddenly she's signing a deal with – she's up there with the first lady of Ukraine signing a deal for the Clinton Foundation to come in as the official rebuilding partner of the Ukrainian government.
00:35:26.280 It's like it's not even the deep state anymore because now it's in your face.
00:35:29.980 It's in your grill.
00:35:31.080 But there's another aspect to this, Tony, because we are one year – yesterday was the one-year anniversary of the bombing of the Nord Stream 2 pipeline.
00:35:39.840 And we would be remiss to not talk about the deep-seated financial and energy interests that so many of our senators, even Republicans, the 28 Republicans here, are directly tied to because there are so many direct, as I said, financial and energy interests at play here.
00:35:57.020 All right.
00:35:58.440 Look, I think we all know who did it.
00:36:00.640 You tweeted out, and I retweeted your tweet of Joe Biden saying he was going to take it out.
00:36:07.840 Seymour Hersh, and I know Cy Hersh put out, I think, a credible explanation.
00:36:14.920 Between you and me, Jack, every other explanation, Ukrainians on a sailboat.
00:36:20.300 It's like something got to get smart, for goodness sake.
00:36:22.640 Really?
00:36:22.960 Two men in a rowboat?
00:36:24.500 I mean, come on.
00:36:25.200 We do know that there was an interest to take that out and diminish the ability of Russia to make money and energy to go to Germany.
00:36:33.920 So that's what's at stake here.
00:36:35.680 We're talking right now about the fact that they're trying to move everything out of carbon fuels, carbon-based fuels, to this renewable class of things.
00:36:47.580 And they're spending enormous amounts of money on this to basically defund farmers, defund agriculture, move people into a position where they have to depend on the grid.
00:36:59.140 A grid, a grid which they control, and cars that have computers that they control.
00:37:05.300 And again, I don't see how people don't see this sort of thing.
00:37:07.760 Jack, this is all going on.
00:37:09.280 And there's an immense amount of money going into it.
00:37:11.960 Biden just said the other day that he put $10 billion into EVs for purposes of trying to turn our whole economic system of how we drive into this EV dream of theirs.
00:37:26.320 It's very dangerous.
00:37:27.320 And I think at this point, it, again, is part of this larger effort to get people to give up what has actually worked and worked very well.
00:37:36.820 But that's what's going on.
00:37:38.180 The Inflation Reduction Act was nothing but a reshellacking, a repainting of the new Green Deal.
00:37:47.280 And they funded it.
00:37:48.460 And so that's why they're trying to work so hard to do this sort of two-step regarding energy.
00:37:55.460 The only other thing I'll say about that real quick is Ukraine does have energy resources that would be able to compete with Russia.
00:38:04.180 And I would argue that's one of the reasons they want Ukraine out from under the Russian influence because in 2014 they found immense reserves of oil and gas in the Donbass and Black Sea.
00:38:14.300 They don't want Russia to have that.
00:38:15.420 They want the EU to have that.
00:38:16.900 It goes back to this global governance thing.
00:38:18.600 And that's why they want to pull that out from under Russia.
00:38:20.820 But ultimately, I think many of the underpinnings of the war in Ukraine has to do with energy and who gets to control the energy.
00:38:28.860 I mean, Tony, we've talked about it so many times.
00:38:31.460 But Ukraine is a nexus.
00:38:34.960 We talked about it last week how Ukraine is the secret playground of the globalists.
00:38:41.760 And we talked about the child trafficking.
00:38:45.160 We also had an interview where we talked about the baby factories in Ukraine, the oil, the energy, even the farmland where they're trying to get Monsanto and the GMOs in for total control of this year.
00:38:58.360 Because what is Ukraine at the end of the day?
00:39:00.300 The fertile breadbasket of it all.
00:39:02.700 And if you don't think that there are, Tony, when we're talking about just put all this together, put a number on it for us.
00:39:09.400 How much money are we talking about that's on the table here?
00:39:13.540 If Trump says we're going to get out, there's no more war, we're going to bounce, and then Russia is able to come in, how much money is actually at play to lose for these interests?
00:39:26.540 Well, let's think about what they spent so far, $100 billion, most of that spent right in Washington.
00:39:32.040 It didn't go to Ukraine.
00:39:33.080 It goes to U.S. interests and corporations, which make money off it.
00:39:38.460 Leader McConnell admitted this the other day in the Senate.
00:39:41.540 So right now we're talking, if you just take, Jack, us spending approximately, I think the estimates are about $3 trillion in Afghanistan over 20 years.
00:39:52.360 It's got to be more than that by an order of magnitude regarding Ukraine.
00:39:56.540 So if it took that much for Afghanistan, which really wasn't much to it to rebuild since there wasn't much there, this you're talking about essentially Ukraine becoming an experiment for the world economic forum and their bill back better.
00:40:13.720 And literally that's what's going on.
00:40:15.000 Look, I think, Jack, that's why they don't want to negotiate in the war.
00:40:18.020 They want more destruction.
00:40:20.120 Putin is going to give them the destruction they want.
00:40:22.280 Many of these vultures, too many of these vultures have their beaks in.
00:40:26.880 They don't care about the Ukrainian people.
00:40:28.800 They'll lie about this black sea commander.
00:40:31.740 They said he's dead.
00:40:32.720 Oh, he turns up alive.
00:40:34.120 They'll lie about the missile that hit the Polish farmers.
00:40:36.460 They said, oh, it was Russia.
00:40:38.360 No, it wasn't Russian.
00:40:39.240 It was Ukrainian.
00:40:39.980 They'll lie.
00:40:40.620 They'll lie.
00:40:41.160 And they'll continue to lie because there are billions and billions at stake here.
00:40:45.620 No, there's trillions here, Tony.
00:40:47.280 It's brilliant.
00:40:48.500 Wow.
00:40:49.500 Wow.
00:40:49.880 Trillions.
00:40:50.360 They are washed.
00:40:51.140 And Julian Assange said it.
00:40:52.540 They're washing the American tax base out.
00:40:56.260 If you think this is about helping the people of Ukraine or helping anyone overseas, just go ask the 120,000 Armenians that just got ethnically cleansed out of Artsakh, whether we actually care about human rights anywhere in the world.
00:41:10.120 Tony Schaefer, I know we've got to run.
00:41:11.900 We're going to Michigan.
00:41:12.620 Where can people go to follow you to get more information?
00:41:14.180 Tony Spooky on Twitter, where you and I follow each other, and ProjectSentinel.com or .net.
00:41:21.080 Good to talk to you, Jack.
00:41:22.300 See you again soon.
00:41:23.840 Appreciate the briefing, as always, Lieutenant Colonel.
00:41:26.040 All right, Human Events goes live to Michigan.
00:41:29.120 The UAW worker strike coming up next.
00:41:34.500 I'm always listening to Human Events with Jack Posobiec.
00:41:37.600 All right, Jack Posobiec back here, live Human Events daily.
00:41:40.180 We're about to go now.
00:41:41.180 We're working on bringing up a shot.
00:41:43.520 We've got Steve Gruber of Real America's Voice is down there with the striking UAW workers, United Auto Workers.
00:41:51.380 And this is a real inflection point for, I think, the Republican Party and really the populist movement in this country.
00:41:59.040 Because, if you remember, the Republican Party used to be the party of the owners, the party of the ultra-rich, the ultra-wealthy.
00:42:07.660 That's all totally shifted.
00:42:08.960 Now, Joe Biden, that's why he flew out there and spent, what, like 87 seconds actually talking to the people on the line.
00:42:15.240 And, guys, let me know when we're set up to go in, but what you're seeing Trump doing and Trump going there tonight to counter-program the, there is a Republican debate, but I don't know how many people are actually watching.
00:42:29.780 I heard Fox is actually slashing their ad rates because it's projected to be such a snoozer, that he has sided with the American workers.
00:42:39.420 So, when I talk about the special interest overseas, the special interest to send billions of dollars overseas, whether it's the military-industrial complex, whether it's finance, whether it's agribusiness, whether it's big pharma, whether it's baby factories,
00:42:55.000 any of these various interests, pharmaceutical companies that are raking in the dough out of Ukraine, you've got to understand that all of that, at the same time, is underpinned by the U.S. chamber that has these deals with China and the fact that China has unfettered access to American markets.
00:43:13.820 This has destroyed American manufacturing, destroyed our industry, destroyed our infrastructure.
00:43:19.420 I talk about it how many times you're on the show, the Midwest, the South, it was gutted by design, by these people.
00:43:28.080 And why?
00:43:29.720 Because there's money.
00:43:30.720 Because there's so much money involved in it.
00:43:33.740 And so, when President Trump goes there as a Republican, it shows you two things.
00:43:39.820 Number one, the restructuring of the Republican Party, and the reason that Joe Biden's there, is because the Democrats are terrified of the Rust Belt.
00:43:50.020 They know that Trump is the only Republican that has the ability to win the Rust Belt.
00:43:56.840 And I'm told that we have Steve Gruber now on the scene to kind of explain it to us just a little bit.
00:44:04.860 Can we go to Steve, guys?
00:44:06.480 I'm giving up a finger.
00:44:07.940 Steve, how you doing, man?
00:44:12.080 Doing good, Jack.
00:44:13.080 Good to talk to you here today.
00:44:14.580 We're at this event, Clinton Township.
00:44:16.440 These folks are out here for Donald Trump.
00:44:23.140 Because, well, as you know, these guys are fired up, Jack.
00:44:28.080 I don't mean really fired up.
00:44:29.960 Donald Trump led a revolution in this country.
00:44:33.300 I heard you talking about it.
00:44:34.300 How Democrats used to be the party of the middle class, the party of labor.
00:44:40.220 But Donald Trump has brought all of those people across the aisle.
00:44:44.260 He's brought middle class, working class, UAW folks across the aisle.
00:44:48.480 In fact, I've got a gentleman right here I want to talk to you for just one second.
00:44:51.680 You are a former UAW member, right?
00:44:54.120 And you said your best times were when you were working and Donald Trump was president.
00:44:58.360 Tell me about that.
00:44:59.060 I'm a current UAW worker.
00:45:01.280 I have 28 years.
00:45:03.780 The four years under Donald Trump were the best four years out of the whole 28 years I've worked for Stellanus.
00:45:10.680 Under Clinton, under Obama, and under Biden, I've been afraid of losing my job.
00:45:16.800 And Jack, he's afraid of losing his job as a UAW member for 28 years.
00:45:21.560 The best time he ever had was with Donald Trump in the White House.
00:45:25.480 So here's what we are hearing.
00:45:27.540 The move is to Donald Trump.
00:45:29.860 The move is to Donald Trump by working class people.
00:45:32.620 You know that.
00:45:33.060 So Donald Trump's going to be here in Clinton Township tonight.
00:45:35.540 It's an invitational-only event.
00:45:37.620 Otherwise, the line would be down around three or four miles from here.
00:45:42.460 But it's an invitation-only event.
00:45:44.260 But the people that are going in with those invitations are pretty fired up to be here.
00:45:47.740 And you are exactly right, Jack.
00:45:49.440 When you say that the Democrats and Joe Biden are afraid of the Rust Belt, you couldn't be more right.
00:45:55.360 It's Michigan.
00:45:56.440 It's Wisconsin.
00:45:57.800 It's Ohio.
00:45:58.680 It's Pennsylvania.
00:45:59.860 The states that are the industrial base, they're all leading to Donald Trump, Jack.
00:46:03.620 It looks like it's going to be a good night.
00:46:04.880 Steve, can you ask him, what is the role of China?
00:46:09.540 Do they understand, is China a major issue for them when they see the Republicans versus the Democrats,
00:46:15.800 or really just Trump versus everyone else?
00:46:18.620 Well, let me ask my friend here.
00:46:20.940 China.
00:46:21.420 How do you look at China as a threat to American productivity, to construct, to building things in this country?
00:46:27.020 Is it one of the things you think about?
00:46:29.140 China is a huge threat.
00:46:31.260 I think all the EV push is to make China rich.
00:46:35.260 Well, and there you have it.
00:46:36.020 A lot of folks.
00:46:36.580 Here's what we know today, Jack.
00:46:38.080 The people that work on the line at Stellantis making Jeep and Chrysler or at Ford or GM,
00:46:42.360 they can't afford to buy one of these $80,000 or $100,000 EVs.
00:46:46.080 The people that work on the line can't afford the vehicles they're making.
00:46:49.040 There's something wrong with that.
00:46:50.680 There's something wrong with an America where you can't buy what you're making on the line.
00:46:54.700 Not to mention, 40% of those autoworkers, about 60,000 people, five or eight years from now,
00:47:00.000 won't have jobs because it takes 40% less labor to build an EV than it does to build an internal combustion motor vehicle
00:47:05.860 in Detroit or Toledo or Missouri or anywhere else in this country.
00:47:10.700 Steve, what do they think about Biden showing up?
00:47:12.980 I understand he was only there for a couple of minutes.
00:47:16.940 Well, it was pretty funny.
00:47:18.560 We've talked a lot to you about that.
00:47:19.600 He was on the ground at the UAW event total for 12 minutes.
00:47:24.020 He spoke for, I think you got it right, 87 seconds.
00:47:27.200 They don't think about Joe Biden.
00:47:28.640 Not much at all, in fact.
00:47:30.280 They have no issue at all.
00:47:32.220 What do you think?
00:47:33.180 Trump or Biden?
00:47:35.560 Trump?
00:47:36.480 All right.
00:47:37.840 What do you think of Joe Biden?
00:47:41.640 Just thought I'd take a quick instant poll for you, Jack.
00:47:44.160 There it is.
00:47:45.760 Now, are you hearing, you know, I understand they're in line for Trump,
00:47:49.180 but is there any other, we've got about 90 seconds left.
00:47:51.600 Is there anyone else, we do have the Republican debate tonight,
00:47:54.040 is there anyone else that they're looking at in terms of the Republican field?
00:47:58.200 Oh, no.
00:47:59.220 You know, I've talked to several people here today.
00:48:01.100 No, is the answer.
00:48:02.120 The short answer is no.
00:48:03.460 Donald Trump leads the polls 40, 50, even more, 40 or 50 points.
00:48:07.240 It's a runaway.
00:48:08.020 In fact, I heard suggestions, Jack, and maybe you could weigh in on this,
00:48:11.000 that what's the point of having another debate after tonight?
00:48:13.620 You've had to.
00:48:15.000 Nobody's paying attention.
00:48:16.280 It's not denting Donald Trump standing in the polls.
00:48:18.500 He's still dominating.
00:48:19.840 He's running away with it, frankly.
00:48:21.380 I'm not even sure if there's another Republican in double digits anymore
00:48:24.080 now that the governor of Florida has faded so much.
00:48:26.700 So you have to wonder, why would you continue having these debates
00:48:30.040 at the Ronald Reagan Library or anywhere else for that matter
00:48:32.540 if nobody's paying attention?
00:48:34.160 Because you know who's going to get attention tonight?
00:48:36.180 Donald Trump will.
00:48:37.000 You know who wins the debate tonight?
00:48:38.340 Donald Trump probably will, just like he did the last time around.
00:48:41.640 I mean, there's no point in having a debate.
00:48:43.740 Will you watch the debate ever?
00:48:45.860 No, I will not, not unless Trump participates.
00:48:49.300 I think there's your answer, Jack.
00:48:50.700 As simple as that, Steve.
00:48:51.700 We're just about out of time here, and then I know you'll come up.
00:48:55.620 So if you guys want more with Steve, he's going to be coming up after us.
00:48:58.320 Look, folks, I think Steve is exactly right, that in this current moment,
00:49:02.060 we know that it is Donald Trump who has a dominant lead,
00:49:06.380 and what we really need to do is these other guys,
00:49:08.640 they can shift into VP debates if they want to do something like that,
00:49:11.660 set up a little episode of The Apprentice.
00:49:13.300 But the workers of America understand that we must put Trump back in the White House
00:49:20.500 to release the political prisoners like Owen Schroyer, like so many others,
00:49:25.440 and actually confront China on the world stage and the endless wars.