Human Events Daily with Jack Posobiec - EPISODE 582： HOLY LAND SPECIAL

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00:00:52.700 Ladies and gentlemen, welcome aboard today's edition of Human Events Daily.

00:00:55.180 So about a year ago, we did a very special episode here on Human Events.

00:01:02.500 And I say here, but it wasn't actually here because we went to the Holy Land and we conducted

00:01:08.240 a 10-day visit, traveled to many of the sites that you might be hearing about now on the

00:01:14.460 news that you might be hearing about or when you've read about Israel, read about the Holy

00:01:18.840 Land, read about Jerusalem.

00:01:20.080 We went there.

00:01:21.800 So the second time we had gone, took my whole family, went to the Turning Point USA with my

00:01:27.400 brother, and we sat down and put together an entire special called the Holy Land Special,

00:01:36.300 so Human Events Daily, Holy Land Special.

00:01:37.940 And on a week like this, on a week where we've seen so much brutality, so much destruction,

00:01:47.660 so much evil, I wanted to show people the importance of the Holy Land and the importance

00:01:55.560 of where Jesus walked with his own feet here on planet Earth.

00:02:01.740 where he died, where he's buried, where he rose again, why it's important, and why we

00:02:14.800 still remember it, and why we still care about it.

00:02:18.000 So I'd like to replay that for you now today, the Human Events Special, the Holy Land.

00:02:24.240 Kevin and I are here in downtown Jerusalem, and we've just spent one week here in the Holy

00:02:35.880 Land together, and the rest of the family was with us, the boys, my wife, the beautiful

00:02:40.700 and lovely Tanya Tay, my parents, got him out, even got dad, we even got dad off the couch,

00:02:46.420 you know, got him in, he came out, and he walked and climbed all over, all over every site we

00:02:55.920 took him to here, like a champ, like an absolute champ, great with the kids, everything else,

00:03:01.620 but really give you an understanding of why it was that we came to the Holy Land, what

00:03:06.420 we experienced while we were here, some of the, of course, if you remember when we went

00:03:11.080 to Ukraine, I focused more on the political-military situation, whereas Kev focused more on sort

00:03:19.080 of what was going on the ground, how are supplies run, how do people live, how are things built

00:03:24.620 and rebuilt, and the construction, and all of this, and of course, that's still going on

00:03:29.600 as we record this, even the city of Mikolaev, where we visited, is still under attack as of

00:03:35.600 right now, but this time around, we had the opportunity, thanks to Turning Point USA, to

00:03:42.960 bring us to the Holy Land, and so I'm so gracious for Turning Point, for having the ability to

00:03:48.560 help us out with that, so essentially, what we did was a figure eight, if you want to think

00:03:56.260 of it that way, we sort of did the Dead Sea, then up to Galilee, then back down to the site

00:04:04.180 of Christ's baptism, and then back across to Jerusalem for the end, so let's say, so now,

00:04:10.920 I've been here once before, just to set the stage, so Tanya and I did our honeymoon here

00:04:16.120 in Israel, but Kevin, this is your first time to the Middle East, at all, so tell me, what

00:04:22.620 was it like, what was it like just getting off the airplane, getting in the car, and driving

00:04:29.100 across the desert that first night, because we drove all, the first night, all the way

00:04:33.280 from the airport in Tel Aviv, Ben Gurion Airport, all the way to the Dead Sea, and then we slept

00:04:38.260 on the shores of the Dead Sea that first night.

00:04:41.460 Well, I tell you, I mean, we've done so much on this, on this adventure, it's hard to even

00:04:46.880 recall, actually, but the trip driving over, like a blur, yeah, like a blur, it feels like

00:04:52.960 I've been here, like a month, and a lot of people are actually saying that, too, but that's

00:04:56.960 great, I mean, driving over, though, it was, it was pretty beautiful, I mean, clear skies,

00:05:02.180 the stars were out, like, and you could tell we were definitely in the desert.

00:05:06.960 Not too much light pollution there, no light pollution, nope, but yeah, it was a lot of fun

00:05:11.440 driving over, and of course, of course, I cranked.

00:05:14.440 It felt like when we were in Denver or, like, California, like, it wasn't, like, the Swiss 1.00

00:05:19.540 Alps, but you could see, like, the rolling hills, and, yeah, it was nighttime, of course.

00:05:25.740 However, the one difference was that I found whatever Jordanian radio channel I could find,

00:05:33.080 then plugged it in and cranked it all the way to the max the entire two hours of the drive.

00:05:38.620 I had no idea what they were saying, but.

00:05:41.360 I have a theory that it's actually all just one song on a loop, that was my theory, it's

00:05:45.960 like house music, you know, where they just do the one song, that's loop, loop, loop, loop,

00:05:50.080 loop, loop, loop, and of course, Dad's sitting there.

00:05:52.180 You got rhythm, you got rhythm.

00:05:53.360 Oh, yeah, Dad in the car, too.

00:05:55.320 That was just the whole experience.

00:05:56.980 What are you, what are you stopping here for?

00:05:58.880 No, turn, no, go this way, no, go that way, what are you doing?

00:06:01.920 The backseat driver, the definition.

00:06:04.800 If any of you guys out there have a Polish dad or, you know, Slavic father, you'll know

00:06:10.540 exactly what it is.

00:06:12.120 Totally.

00:06:12.420 Like, yeah, no, Dad, I'm good, I got, I got, got, Captain Google right here is taking care

00:06:17.720 of me, got the SIM card, you know, I've been here before, as a matter of fact, so, you know,

00:06:22.660 I have a basic ID of my bearings.

00:06:24.980 Stubborn, stubborn as a rusty nail, yes.

00:06:27.640 Exactly.

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00:08:08.240 So we finally stopped, the first place we stopped cutting across the, right, so we finally

00:08:14.100 stopped at Beersheba, the first place, which was of course where Abraham dug the well.

00:08:20.260 It was a watering hole back in those times, back in biblical times.

00:08:23.760 And in a sense, it kind of still is today, because that's your main stop while you're

00:08:28.820 going across the desert.

00:08:29.920 So I thought that was interesting.

00:08:31.080 It made me think a lot about how, so when you come to the Holy Land, you actually traverse

00:08:35.700 this terrain, you, it gives you an understanding of the Bible that it's hard to have without

00:08:44.840 having this tactile feel of what it actually means to cross the desert of Samaria.

00:08:51.200 What it means to go from Galilee to Judea, to Jerusalem, to come from Nazareth, to be in

00:08:59.060 Bethlehem, right?

00:09:00.240 This idea that, you know, when you're, when you're coming through a desert and there's

00:09:04.860 only one well, you know, of course, everybody's going to be fighting over that.

00:09:10.020 Of course, that's going to be extremely important.

00:09:12.540 It's going to be something that it makes sense, right?

00:09:16.360 So it makes sense why that well or Jerusalem or some of the other main sites have become

00:09:21.900 so many friction points back then, even as, in a sense, as they still are today, maybe

00:09:26.960 not for the same exact reasons.

00:09:28.780 But early on, you really get that understanding of the whole Jordan River Valley and then some

00:09:34.220 of these wells, some of these areas where you could have, could have water or could have

00:09:38.780 any, just any kind of sustenance.

00:09:40.500 Because you've got to imagine, they're not, you know, they're not driving the Mazda or

00:09:44.140 I don't even remember what we had all the way through the desert.

00:09:47.140 They had nothing.

00:09:47.760 They had camels.

00:09:48.680 They had donkeys. 0.63

00:09:49.820 Donkeys. 0.64

00:09:50.140 And that's it.

00:09:51.220 Horses?

00:09:52.320 Not really.

00:09:53.100 Probably not.

00:09:54.660 So you're just traveling, you're just traveling through and that's all you got.

00:09:57.480 So it gives you, it gives you more of an appreciation too for understanding.

00:10:02.340 For us, it was a long night.

00:10:03.600 But imagine them actually having to sleep out there.

00:10:07.460 But then again, that's where the desert fathers were. 0.86

00:10:09.700 Right.

00:10:10.020 From the book of Hebrews.

00:10:11.040 Exactly.

00:10:11.800 Where they gained much of their wisdom and experience.

00:10:15.840 Well, you learn a lot, right?

00:10:17.240 And there were some days where, you know, you couldn't even compare it, but just some days

00:10:22.000 where we were out walking a lot and getting up.

00:10:25.660 Maybe we should, we should even talk about the next, the next, we'll talk about it in a second,

00:10:31.160 but what it was like getting a little taste of that, just a little taste of that.

00:10:37.760 Nothing, nothing major.

00:10:39.300 But what was it like when, I remember, because we stayed in that guest house that we found

00:10:44.540 on the Dead Sea, and I don't think you realized how close we were when you woke up.

00:10:50.560 So what was it like waking up, stepping outside the front door of the courtyard, turning right,

00:10:55.720 and then boom, palm trees, the Dead Sea is sitting right there, Jordan across in the mountains.

00:11:04.980 Yeah, it was, it was breathtaking.

00:11:07.300 I mean, honestly, I went out the night.

00:11:09.900 That's right, you went out the night off, right, you went out the night off, yeah.

00:11:11.980 It was a full moon, I brought my rosary with me, went out on this little man-made peninsula,

00:11:17.340 watched the guys working, and I got to see all like the calcified rocks along the shoreline.

00:11:23.640 And it was pretty moving, and the wind was blowing.

00:11:28.600 It was very romantic.

00:11:30.760 I get a criticism of that, a romantic kind of guy.

00:11:34.300 But the atmosphere was very special and moving.

00:11:39.700 But yeah, I just took my time out there and prayed, and it felt very different.

00:11:45.480 And that's kind of the theme of this whole trip.

00:11:48.780 You can ask the whole group.

00:11:50.540 Everybody is saying, like, this is a lot different than any other previous event.

00:11:56.740 There's like a spirit in the air.

00:11:58.340 Absolutely.

00:11:59.160 And you, well, even there, that's the lowest, the lowest point, the Dead Sea,

00:12:04.540 the lowest surface point on the face of the earth that you can walk.

00:12:09.280 And then that sea, of course, doesn't hold anything.

00:12:10.900 But in the southern end, we were staying on the southern end, and they actually have a lot of excavation that goes on there to get the salt out.

00:12:18.720 Yeah.

00:12:19.080 So that you get it up, and that's what we saw was dredgers and excavators, and they were just pulling the salt out.

00:12:23.680 Yeah.

00:12:24.120 I didn't read too much about that yet, but there's apparently some work being done now to convert it to energy.

00:12:30.360 There is.

00:12:31.680 I forget the name of it.

00:12:32.500 That came up as I was researching it.

00:12:36.020 So they've divvied up with Jordan, who's on the other side, and they're finding ways to actually try to turn that into electric plants.

00:12:45.000 Because, of course, energy, and just like before, living in the desert has its own set of realities that you have to figure out if you're going to spend time out there.

00:12:56.260 It's unlike any other body of water I've ever been in.

00:12:59.300 I put my hand in, and it felt like there's, like, there's, remember back in the day, there's machines, like, you put your hand in, and it, like, covers it in wax?

00:13:06.460 No.

00:13:07.300 Okay.

00:13:07.740 Well.

00:13:08.820 What were you doing covering your hand in wax?

00:13:11.440 Not a lot of things.

00:13:12.500 Oh, okay.

00:13:13.000 But it just felt like oil, or, like, hyssop, anointing oil.

00:13:18.780 What else did you get waxed, Kev?

00:13:21.180 What else did you get waxed?

00:13:23.080 Well, I got something on my shoulder last night.

00:13:25.940 Yeah, I know you got something.

00:13:26.880 Yeah, I heard Mom found out about that.

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00:13:33.340 Yeah.

00:13:33.760 Okay.

00:13:34.280 Did you actually film it?

00:13:36.100 A number of people did, yeah.

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00:13:45.800 So, we're coming through the Dead Sea.

00:13:48.540 You wake up, first morning, we're there.

00:13:51.380 And I think we got a great photo, actually, of Mom and Dad just sort of walking towards the Dead Sea.

00:13:59.520 And I just thought it was great for them, for everybody.

00:14:06.080 And I would say this for the rest of the trip, but you got to come at least once.

00:14:12.180 You got to come at least once, see it, experience it, walk those stones, see those places.

00:14:20.740 Like, everywhere kind of is, like, so close to a border.

00:14:25.180 And it's like, you look across and you see Jordan.

00:14:27.680 Yeah.

00:14:27.860 And multiple times throughout the trip.

00:14:32.380 But there's, yeah, so many, so many moments like that.

00:14:36.060 Right.

00:14:36.220 It's not, the whole country's not about the size of New Jersey.

00:14:38.240 Yeah, Jersey.

00:14:38.900 It's not, it's not big.

00:14:40.880 I mean, you can do the whole thing up and down in a week, 10 days, give or take.

00:14:45.940 We stopped at the cave of Qumran, where the Dead Sea Scrolls were found.

00:14:50.380 There's various stories about how they were discovered.

00:14:53.840 But the idea was back in the 1940s, they went into this cave and they found that this group of Jewish.

00:15:02.420 Shepherds.

00:15:03.260 Well, no, no, no, I'm talking about the Essenes.

00:15:05.200 So the Essenes had preserved these scrolls.

00:15:08.880 Oh, yes.

00:15:09.460 At this time and did so in such a way on leather so that, and because, and because, again,

00:15:15.940 this is right off the Dead Sea, one of the driest places in the entire world.

00:15:21.500 So because they were, it was on leather, they were preserved in clay jars, and it's one of the driest and most arid places in the world.

00:15:28.800 In a cave.

00:15:28.920 Plus in a cave, so protected from the elements, that these 2,000 year old scrolls were found and to the point where you could even still read them.

00:15:41.360 It's ancient Hebrew, but you could still read them.

00:15:43.920 And they contain the oldest copies of the Bible that we still have to have ever been found.

00:15:49.380 Yeah.

00:15:49.600 Just to tie in the fact, like, the theory comes out and then about the cosmic airburst.

00:15:55.160 Right.

00:15:55.520 But they find the Dead Sea Scrolls and then bring the oldest translations to the Dead Sea Scrolls, put them together, and the words match exactly.

00:16:08.560 Right.

00:16:08.840 That's exactly right.

00:16:09.540 So they brought the translations of, you know, the current Bible as we have it and compared it to the Dead Sea Scrolls.

00:16:20.640 So obviously, if there were some, hey, these are receipts.

00:16:24.180 And so we'd now be able to know these are the closest to the actual source writings that exist.

00:16:29.800 And it turns out that, guess what, it was the same writing.

00:16:33.580 So that means that the process of the preservation of the Bible that went on through the centuries, through the ages, the Middle Ages.

00:16:41.860 And in the Middle Ages, in Europe, for example, I mean, it really was the only people that were doing reading and writing.

00:16:48.760 That was the priests.

00:16:50.000 That was the monks.

00:16:50.920 That was the monasteries.

00:16:52.580 They were the ones, the Franciscans, the Benedictines. 0.86

00:16:55.640 They were the ones that were keeping all of this going on for hundreds of years in that point and really carried that light all the way through those ages.

00:17:04.700 So you didn't have, you know, printing presses.

00:17:09.840 And this is where you get your illuminated manuscripts and your codexes.

00:17:12.640 Well, illuminated stained glass, too.

00:17:14.680 Stained glass, that's true.

00:17:15.540 For people who were illiterate.

00:17:16.880 Right.

00:17:17.180 And the magnificence of the structure itself.

00:17:20.420 The Gothic architecture and mostly just the stained glass.

00:17:25.540 I don't want to get into, like, different styles, but the paintings, the large paintings.

00:17:31.120 Or at the Vatican, the statue, everything.

00:17:35.460 Everything, yeah.

00:17:35.940 It's the most forged art work in the world.

00:17:37.500 They relied on art rather than literacy.

00:17:41.620 And so the point, though, is that they were able to find these scrolls.

00:17:47.940 The scrolls matched.

00:17:49.480 So it says, hey, if the translations were correct, it was handed down to us properly, we can now go back, we can roll back that clock another 2,000 years.

00:17:57.260 They were even scared to publish it.

00:17:58.800 Remember he said that, too, for, like, four or five years.

00:18:00.840 Well, that's pretty much any academic study, though.

00:18:03.380 Sure.

00:18:03.960 They'll be that way.

00:18:04.740 But if the Bible had different stories in the beginning, it would change the foundation.

00:18:11.240 Well, there is one interesting angle to this, that one of the scrolls found at Qumran, of course, they had the scroll of Isaiah, they had all the major prophets,

00:18:22.700 but one of the scrolls found at Qumran was the Book of Enoch.

00:18:26.780 You mentioned that.

00:18:28.000 Yeah.

00:18:28.220 And the tour guide said that was a little balagan.

00:18:32.380 Yeah, he said it was a balagan.

00:18:34.260 So one of the issues with this, of course, is that the Book of Enoch is considered apocrypha by every major church, every major Jewish sect that doesn't, you know, doesn't consider it to be valid.

00:18:46.900 These are influencers, and they're friends of mine, Jack Posobiec.

00:18:53.060 Where's Jack?

00:18:53.980 Jack.

00:18:54.920 He's done a great job.

00:18:56.720 Thank you.

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00:20:11.600 The Essenes clearly thought there was some importance to it, and so they kept it safe.

00:20:20.300 And one of the interesting pieces of the Book of Enoch, and we can find in the New Testament and Old Testament,

00:20:26.340 there are references and words that seem to have been taken from this Book of Enoch, which, you know, that makes sense.

00:20:34.600 I mean, I've got books at home that aren't the Bible, right?

00:20:37.880 Sure.

00:20:38.080 You know, so it certainly was something that was floating around at this time, but probably one of the most,

00:20:44.920 one of the passages in it that stands out the most, and one of the writings,

00:20:50.800 is the fact that it talks about the dealings of the creation of demigods.

00:20:56.700 It's this idea that fallen angels were commingling, if you will, with human women and creating a race of hybrid beings that, 0.96

00:21:12.960 and if you go to Genesis 6, Genesis 6 says that these were the Nephilim, and the Nephilim, or, which, which, the King James.

00:21:21.900 Not the Anunnaki? 1.00

00:21:22.400 Not the Anunnaki, no. The Nephilim, which the King James Version translates as giants.

00:21:28.380 Yeah.

00:21:29.880 That they were the great heroes and the great warriors of old.

00:21:34.060 And then there's, there's other, you know, versions, there's other sort of divisions of the, subdivisions of the Nephilim.

00:21:40.540 The Rephaim is one of these, and there's thought that Goliath was one of the, one of the descendants of the Nephilim at one point.

00:21:48.540 And it says that this was in, in the days before the flood.

00:21:55.100 Hmm.

00:21:55.860 So it could be, and there's a lot of scholarship on this, it could be that one of the reasons of the flood was to wipe out the Nephilim in the first instance.

00:22:07.560 Because of what, because of, because they were never intended to be created.

00:22:11.000 That this was something that was outside of God's creation, that, that the angels, and the fallen angels, the humans, were creating together.

00:22:20.940 I guess that would fit into the context of, like, the world was, like, covered with sin.

00:22:25.280 Mm-hmm.

00:22:26.840 Like, it's plausible.

00:22:27.740 Yeah, right, and then, so the theory goes a little bit further, even, that the reason that the fallen angels were doing this was because they knew that the Messiah was to come from humanity, and that, to come from men, and that they knew that the Messiah would have domination over them.

00:22:49.560 And so, because they didn't want that to happen, because they thought that maybe they could put a, put a wrench in God's design, because, of course, you can't, you couldn't defeat God, right?

00:23:12.560 No, nothing could defeat, what are you going to do?

00:23:15.440 You got to throw something at him?

00:23:16.300 You know, you know, you can't, but you could come into creation, and, of course, we know the first instance of, of being deceptive, the serpent, tempting you with sin.

00:23:27.740 Of course, these are, these are ways to, to defile creation and to tempt humans into sin, but another way that, at one point, the Bible says, and this is, Genesis 6 is in the Bible, the Nephilim,

00:23:42.460 and this is referring to this, this idea that a hybrid race was created in order to, in order to try to stop the creation of the Messiah.

00:23:56.640 You keep mentioning the word creation, too, though, but what did Noah bring on the ark?

00:24:01.620 Right.

00:24:02.880 What did, and what didn't he bring?

00:24:04.180 What didn't he bring?

00:24:05.260 Yes.

00:24:05.520 We all know who took out Goliath, though, right?

00:24:08.420 King David.

00:24:09.600 Who just got back from there.

00:24:10.620 Who just visited his tomb, that's right.

00:24:12.040 So, so this, this is a connection.

00:24:13.920 This is a connection to some of the stuff that goes even further about, I mean, everything here is connected.

00:24:19.200 That's after the flood.

00:24:20.960 That's after the flood.

00:24:22.480 It was after the flood.

00:24:23.240 And so, the theory goes a little bit further, even, that says that if you, that the book of Joshua, if you take this reading of it, then that means the book of Joshua, they're not just fighting other tribes.

00:24:35.400 They're fighting giants.

00:24:38.600 And they're clearing the land of Cana of these giants.

00:24:41.720 And so that, that some had survived, and maybe not giants in the, you know, sort of cartoon version, but maybe just larger, stronger, more powerful, perhaps having some kind of supernatural or spiritual.

00:24:58.200 Yeah.

00:24:58.780 Well, even in our, our life, not our lifetime, but Andre the Giant, it wasn't even a hundred years ago.

00:25:04.940 Well, so there's two.

00:25:06.040 There's, it's gigantism.

00:25:07.740 There's two translations.

00:25:08.900 Like mutation.

00:25:09.980 Even on, on Goliath, there's two translations of his height.

00:25:14.480 One of the translations has his height as about six foot nine.

00:25:19.400 So.

00:25:19.660 Okay.

00:25:20.160 Big.

00:25:20.920 Big.

00:25:21.060 You know, very big.

00:25:22.180 The other translation has his height as about nine foot nine.

00:25:27.160 Hmm.

00:25:27.800 Which would be an actual giant.

00:25:30.640 Yeah.

00:25:31.980 Something not human.

00:25:35.060 And so it's, it's just interesting take, and I don't know that I endorse it, but.

00:25:40.460 I'm, that, that's the explanation of it.

00:25:42.580 But, um, getting back to it.

00:25:43.900 So, away from the Dead Sea Scrolls, as we're going through the land.

00:25:47.300 And, um, by the way, we did go to Mount Bental, so I did look for King Og while I was up there

00:25:53.000 in King Og's bed.

00:25:54.460 Another one of the potential giants.

00:25:56.480 Yeah.

00:25:56.720 The land of Bashan.

00:25:57.580 Um, that, one of the, so we, we climbed Masada.

00:26:03.320 We did.

00:26:03.840 We climbed Masada.

00:26:04.660 We definitely did.

00:26:05.520 Well, actually, that was one of my first reflections of seeing the history of Masada, like, and reading

00:26:10.140 Maccabees along the way, is that these people fled from Romans, but they still fought with

00:26:19.540 such ferocity, with nothing.

00:26:22.500 They didn't have cell phones.

00:26:23.880 They didn't have technology.

00:26:24.860 Like, they barely had water.

00:26:28.360 Um, they had food.

00:26:30.100 Well, let's.

00:26:30.480 They had family.

00:26:31.380 And they had traditions.

00:26:33.620 And that's all what Maccabees is about.

00:26:36.240 Let's explain what.

00:26:36.960 Defying the king.

00:26:37.880 What Masada is.

00:26:39.180 Sure.

00:26:39.460 For people who don't know what it is.

00:26:40.980 So, Masada is this huge castle fortress.

00:26:45.180 Um, it's actually a resort of King Herod the Great that was built on the banks of the Dead

00:26:50.140 Sea.

00:26:51.100 It was built just after, or, well, I should say it was built just before the time of Christ.

00:26:56.440 So, it's about 2,000 years old.

00:26:58.480 It's concurrent with Christ.

00:26:59.700 But, this revolt that Kevin was talking about took place just after about 70 AD, one of the

00:27:06.160 Jewish revolts.

00:27:07.340 And, this is, of course, when the temple was destroyed by the Romans.

00:27:10.540 The first temple was destroyed by the Babylonians.

00:27:13.640 But, during this time, um, King Herod had built a giant palace on top of a mountain.

00:27:22.080 All the way out in the desert.

00:27:23.540 All the way overlooking the Dead Sea.

00:27:25.760 And, it's this huge, and it's still there today.

00:27:28.980 The ruins are still there.

00:27:29.940 You can go.

00:27:30.400 You can visit.

00:27:30.980 There's a path on the way up.

00:27:32.400 The snake trail.

00:27:33.060 You can climb.

00:27:33.520 It's called the snake path.

00:27:34.460 We did it.

00:27:35.180 We walked it.

00:27:35.840 We did the snake path.

00:27:36.480 Wilkermage.

00:27:37.280 There's another, there's another path that's even longer.

00:27:39.500 It takes, like, three hours to get up.

00:27:41.540 And, then, there's the Roman ramp, which is around the backside.

00:27:44.360 So, when the Romans attacked, they built this ramp.

00:27:46.160 You can still see it today.

00:27:47.740 And, there's a cable car, of course, for the kids.

00:27:50.140 But, um, what did it, and, and so when, when the, the Zealots, who were, who were there, essentially staying away from the Romans, they were able to hold out for three years, three years, under siege from the Romans, in this palace, on the top of a mountain, in the middle of the desert, middle of the desert.

00:28:16.980 With nothing other than the supplies that they had brought with them.

00:28:20.820 So, they had a cistern up there, but no, no running water, keep in mind, just on the top of Masada.

00:28:28.640 But, yeah, it just, it just brought this up, too.

00:28:33.660 Like, this is from the tomb of King David.

00:28:36.400 And, um, just to, like, emphasize, like, how they fought.

00:28:43.220 But, it says, and I should merit to be bold like a leopard, light as an eagle, run like a, like a deer and strong as a lion, to do the desire of our Father in heaven.

00:28:53.920 That's, I don't know if that's, is that from Maccabees?

00:28:56.200 But, it's from, from this prayer.

00:28:58.780 They give it, they give it to everybody that enters.

00:29:01.260 But, comparatively to the United States of America, and, like, if we had an enemy force, like, attack us.

00:29:11.300 We kind of mentioned it in the last podcast, but, like, where is our unity?

00:29:16.300 Where is our, like, pride?

00:29:17.760 And, if anything, it's a fantastic example. 1.00

00:29:22.420 You probably have half the people in the U.S. basically say, oh, well, it's probably better than our stupid racist, anti-immigrant, anti-woman, capitalist government. 0.98

00:29:35.880 And they, you'd almost think that some of the people in the U.S. today might, might welcome a change of government. 0.99

00:29:42.580 Right, right.

00:29:43.700 Which, of course, is, as you go through the Holy Land, you, you find out that one of the, the pieces of history here, and then, and obviously gets into the current situation, is that, you know, we are, or this land has gone through so many changes in terms of who's in charge of it.

00:30:02.780 Whether it be, whether it be, whether it be the Israelites, whether it be the Babylonians, whether it be the Neo-Babylonians, whether it be Rome, whether it be Byzantium, whether it be the Ottoman Turks, the British, okay?

00:30:14.900 And now it is a sovereign state again.

00:30:18.360 And so, it's, it's really a story that, of just constant cycles of change.

00:30:23.900 It's an example of having faith and your traditions till the end, like how, how the battle ended.

00:30:32.340 Even when the Romans came, they did not surrender. 0.99

00:30:35.620 No, they did not.

00:30:36.480 And so, at the end, rather than surrender, rather than being taken into captivity, they did, they decided to take their own lives in Masada.

00:30:45.280 And it was, I think there were some, some women and children were the only ones at the very end who were left when the Romans came up.

00:30:54.760 So, we climbed it and we made sure that we weren't, we weren't taking no cable car, that's for sure.

00:31:03.200 And that being said, we took the snake path.

00:31:05.580 Honestly, snake path wasn't that bad.

00:31:08.280 I didn't, do you think it was that bad?

00:31:09.280 No, it was easy.

00:31:10.620 It was about a mile or a mile, but maybe half a mile up and it took us 35 minutes, I believe.

00:31:16.300 35 minutes, yep.

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00:32:34.720 I don't know that I would have taken the kids, even Jack-Jack, at age four.

00:32:39.920 We did take both the kids through Hezekiah's tunnels.

00:32:42.280 Yes, we did.

00:32:42.960 Yes, we did.

00:32:43.600 That was just an amazing experience.

00:32:46.280 You know, this ancient aqueduct under the old city of Jerusalem.

00:32:51.240 But that's part of, like, actually doing a pilgrimage, too, is, like, walking.

00:32:55.920 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:32:56.460 That's kind of lost in the modern day, but, like, working and sacrificing is, like, a way of penance and, like, a prayer to God.

00:33:03.840 Even without your words, without all, like, your beautiful phrases or Instagram posts or whatever, just, like, just walking, you know, as, like, an offer to God, like, up the mountain and doing things like that.

00:33:18.540 Hezekiah's tunnel, by the way, the water comes up to your waist just about.

00:33:23.440 Without accolades, right?

00:33:24.900 Right, without accolades.

00:33:26.900 I felt like it was pure.

00:33:28.960 Mm-hmm.

00:33:30.600 And the kids loved it up there.

00:33:31.980 They loved the castle.

00:33:33.800 They loved the ruins.

00:33:35.180 They were having a great time.

00:33:36.820 They loved Ein Gedi a little better.

00:33:38.920 They did.

00:33:39.640 And so after that, we went to the beautiful and very special oasis of Ein Gedi.

00:33:47.760 And if you have time, if you're visiting the Dead Sea, do not skip Ein Gedi. 0.84

00:33:53.760 This was, so this was, by the way, the oasis where King David hid out after King Saul was going after him.

00:34:01.780 And it's this gorgeous oasis right off the, essentially, the side of the Dead Sea, about halfway down from the northern part of it.

00:34:11.020 And you walk in and you climb through, it's some of the most pure, fresh water that you'll ever see.

00:34:22.180 And it's coming through the desert.

00:34:23.840 It's filtered all the way through, through the sandstone.

00:34:26.320 And it's fresh.

00:34:29.280 So it's not like the salt water of the Dead Sea.

00:34:32.220 It's all fresh.

00:34:33.000 I think it's the closest large freshwater source to anywhere near the Dead Sea.

00:34:38.020 And so there's trees there.

00:34:39.460 There's plants.

00:34:40.920 And you walk up.

00:34:42.400 And there's a series.

00:34:43.100 Ibex.

00:34:43.600 That's right.

00:34:44.180 And there's a series of about, what, about like a dozen waterfalls as you go all the way up.

00:34:49.780 And then the final waterfall you arrive at is King David's Waterfall.

00:34:53.800 Yeah.

00:34:54.800 And so we went through.

00:34:56.340 It was fit for a king.

00:34:57.380 It was fit for a king.

00:34:58.520 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:34:59.120 Quite majestic.

00:35:00.140 So we went through and we saw, we took the kids in.

00:35:04.380 And, oh, yeah, we went in the water.

00:35:05.780 We did all of it.

00:35:06.740 Yeah.

00:35:07.000 And drank the water.

00:35:08.920 Yeah, and there's like bushes I had like growing over the stream.

00:35:12.240 And they like cut through.

00:35:13.780 It created basically like a natural cave almost.

00:35:16.160 It's like a natural cave and a tunnel that at some point you had the water.

00:35:19.620 I was glad I had my waterproof boots that you walk through the natural tunnel.

00:35:24.420 And then at one point, of course, there was two routes.

00:35:27.700 And it said one was the wet route.

00:35:29.360 One was the dry route.

00:35:30.480 Yes.

00:35:30.820 And we took Jack.

00:35:33.060 I took Jack Jack on the wet route all the way up the waterfalls.

00:35:37.420 And then to the point where you actually had to use handholds just to climb up the face of this waterfall.

00:35:43.340 And I had him holding on to me like a spider monkey.

00:35:46.100 Really?

00:35:46.560 Yeah.

00:35:47.020 I didn't go that path.

00:35:47.980 Yeah, you didn't go that path.

00:35:49.320 I didn't.

00:35:49.880 That's right.

00:35:50.300 I didn't.

00:35:50.720 That's all right.

00:35:51.400 You know, some of us go a little extra.

00:35:55.000 But, you know, it's okay.

00:35:56.400 It's okay.

00:36:00.300 Well, we're both pretty extra.

00:36:04.700 Yeah, I really enjoyed that.

00:36:06.480 And to speak to just like nature and the Desert Fathers and having nothing, like you still cannot escape the spirit. 0.83

00:36:15.580 It was a quiet place.

00:36:16.760 It was a very spiritual place.

00:36:18.140 And you could just get in touch, get grounded, easily pray.

00:36:25.460 No cell phone service, any of that stuff.

00:36:28.840 So we finished up there.

00:36:31.240 We, so King David's Oasis, hit the Dead Sea, and then drove up through the night all the way north to the Sea of Galilee.

00:36:44.400 Yeah, we did.

00:36:46.800 We get up to the Sea of Galilee and, of course, well, I guess we stopped in Nazareth first, didn't we?

00:36:52.600 Yeah.

00:36:52.780 I was getting confused with Bethlehem.

00:36:54.120 In Nazareth, they have a great sort of recreation.

00:36:59.180 We had a cool recreated experience of what it would be like to walk around the village in the biblical times,

00:37:04.820 to eat a meal that would be similar to Christ's meal.

00:37:09.520 But then we went to really, I think, the first holy site in Christianity that we visited on this trip.

00:37:17.160 And it is, when you pray the rosary, it's actually the very first one, the very first mystery.

00:37:23.540 First joyful mystery.

00:37:24.520 First joyful mystery of the rosary.

00:37:26.220 St. Gabriel.

00:37:26.980 The annunciation of Archangel Gabriel to Mary the handmaiden.

00:37:32.580 At a little stream, a little well, and they have Mary's Grotto, and where she said yes.

00:37:42.800 So how did that feel, actually knowing that you were standing on the very hill where that took place?

00:37:49.840 Where the word was made flesh?

00:37:51.280 So in Latin, it has the entire piece there.

00:37:58.440 It was moving.

00:37:59.640 I was beside myself.

00:38:01.180 I couldn't help it.

00:38:02.220 I kneeled down and just started up the rosary.

00:38:06.500 And yeah, it just got really welled up, and I just stayed there.

00:38:12.480 It's like sometimes, I don't know from my personal experience, but time stops, and you kind of feel like a weightlessness to you.

00:38:22.740 I actually felt it earlier today, too, at the Western Wall, which is interesting.

00:38:29.160 But yeah, it was amazing.

00:38:32.560 And then to have you guys come and join me, too, that was like a very special moment for our family.

00:38:38.700 Prayed the rosary right there, and beautiful basilica, by the way.

00:38:45.740 Very, completely international.

00:38:48.960 Almost every country of the world had a mosaic or a fresco that was...

00:38:53.840 That's true, of Mary.

00:38:55.140 Of Mary.

00:38:56.040 Of the Blessed Mother.

00:38:56.520 Of the Blessed Mother that's shown there.

00:38:59.380 It was just incredible to see, and a complete outpouring of actual globalism.

00:39:06.860 Yeah.

00:39:07.340 That's the other kind of globalism.

00:39:09.740 That's not globalism, that's universalism.

00:39:11.600 That's the difference.

00:39:12.200 That's right.

00:39:12.680 That's the difference.

00:39:13.980 And so...

00:39:14.560 Put that in your pipe and smoke it.

00:39:15.880 Fealty to the king of the universe and his mother.

00:39:18.940 And so...

00:39:21.020 So after that, that was when we went to Galilee afterwards.

00:39:23.920 Yeah.

00:39:24.640 Yeah.

00:39:24.940 And visited, did some political stuff as well.

00:39:27.520 Went to, you know, political, historical stuff.

00:39:29.440 Met with some IDF soldiers.

00:39:31.680 If anyone do something serious, we are the one who will take him down.

00:39:35.860 We just, we don't just go to the fence with a tank.

00:39:41.320 I see.

00:39:42.400 We had our grandfather, he was, he worked on American tanks in World War II.

00:39:47.680 He was a mechanic in front of a scout, so he would go out and help clear the land, make

00:39:54.580 sure the maps were correct, 1st Armored Division in North Africa during World War II.

00:40:00.380 Yeah.

00:40:00.880 So I appreciate what you do.

00:40:02.620 Got to, got to see one of their newer tanks, Malkia tank. 0.53

00:40:06.820 Got to go to the Golan Heights, which was, of course, a highly disputed area, something

00:40:13.260 I'm very familiar with, that is, so the Golan Heights, for those who don't know, Syria considers

00:40:20.920 it occupied land.

00:40:22.060 Israel considers it their land, having been won in the Six-Day War, 1967, that it's right 1.00

00:40:28.680 on the border, the borders, between Israel, Lebanon, and Syria.

00:40:33.000 So you look over one side, you see Lebanon, you look over the other side, you see Syria,

00:40:37.380 it's right there.

00:40:38.300 Syria, of course, considers it to be occupied by Israel.

00:40:41.240 And Megiddo, who stopped by too.

00:40:43.820 We also stopped by Megiddo, that's right.

00:40:45.580 So Megiddo, of course, the site of Armageddon.

00:40:50.700 So Megiddo is the place of, in Revelation, where we are told, will be the area where the

00:40:59.640 armies of demons meet with the armies of the Lord.

00:41:03.440 We're told that in the final days, that's where it will come.

00:41:09.280 Which...

00:41:09.960 Intense.

00:41:11.240 Great book to read about, just the archaeological background on Megiddo, because people have

00:41:17.720 been living on that hill for something like 10,000 years, and it goes all the way back

00:41:22.980 to the Stone Age.

00:41:24.120 And to add, this whole time, I've been trying to figure what I can take away from this trip,

00:41:31.000 and what I can do as a contributor to bring my experience back to the United States.

00:41:40.040 And one of the things I observed was, they take care of their river border, their border

00:41:46.360 crossing...

00:41:46.980 Well, all their borders.

00:41:48.320 Yeah, I mean, here's the thing, right?

00:41:49.760 When you're talking about borders and border security, go look at the way Israel takes 0.98

00:41:54.540 care of their borders, both externally and internally, because, of course, there's a

00:41:58.600 massive wall that we drove past between the Israeli-controlled territory and the West

00:42:05.020 Banks, or the Palestinian territories. 0.77

00:42:07.180 And we're not talking about this thing with, like, the slats and the little stuff, concrete,

00:42:12.800 barbed wire, watchtowers, spotlights, the whole nine yards.

00:42:17.660 This country, they're not messing around when it comes to that stuff.

00:42:20.740 The Iron Dome.

00:42:21.280 Iron Dome is another part of that, of course, for anti-air defense, or air defense, just

00:42:26.520 to say.

00:42:27.140 But same deal with their northern borders, their southern borders.

00:42:31.060 It's militarized.

00:42:32.180 There's military outposts on all of these things.

00:42:34.580 No jokes when it comes to that stuff.

00:42:36.900 And so when you're a country that wants to defend its sovereignty, or a country that wants

00:42:40.300 to defend its nationalism, it's kind of interesting how, totally fine when it's a country like

00:42:45.920 Israel, or Ukraine, but when we come back to the United States and say, I want to be able

00:42:52.200 to defend my country that way, suddenly you get labeled every name under the sun, you get

00:42:58.100 all sorts of crazy things said about you, and you're wondering, wait, I'm confused, because

00:43:04.340 you said those things were good in those places, but now I come back home and say, I want that,

00:43:09.980 and I want to defend my border, and I'm not allowed to.

00:43:12.520 Yeah, that's what I wanted to highlight.

00:43:15.920 Following that, sight of Christ's baptism, we made it all the way into the holy city

00:43:23.860 of Jerusalem itself.

00:43:26.080 And so the very first morning...

00:43:27.620 Here we are, downtown.

00:43:29.040 That's where we still are.

00:43:30.760 And so the very first morning of that, I woke up early, grabbed the kids, and grabbed mom,

00:43:37.700 and we walked all the way down from where we're staying into the old city, and it was open

00:43:42.640 already, it's about maybe 7.45 a.m., you know, no tourists were around, and we got to have some

00:43:48.940 quiet alone time in the Church of the Holy Sepulchre.

00:43:51.920 And so the Church of the Holy Sepulchre, for folks who don't know, is the spot, the church that was built, it's a massive church complex, which is venerated and recognized by both the Catholic Church, the Orthodox Church, as well as the Coptic Church, as the site of the crucifixion and the resurrection of Christ.

00:44:13.860 This was the church that St. Helena, who was the mother of Emperor Constantine, founded all

00:44:21.440 the way back in the 300s A.D., then in 1006 A.D., the Muslim Caliphate came and attacked the 0.98

00:44:34.240 Church of the Holy Sepulchre.

00:44:35.240 So they built this giant church over the site, over where the cross stood, the Rock of Golgotha, and then you can walk up, even today, and there's an altar on top of the Rock of Golgotha that you can put your hand under, touch the rock, touch where the cross stood, then come down on the other side, you walk across, you see the slab in the middle, and then the actual tomb of Christ is still there.

00:44:59.560 And the word sepulchre means tomb, and this was the church that in 1006 A.D. that the Caliphate attacked, sacked the church itself, and led into motion the events that would later be called the Crusades, when all the Christian soldiers, the knights, and the kings came from Europe, from all across Christendom,

00:45:27.380 to return to Jerusalem, to return to Jerusalem, and retake the Holy Land. 0.93

00:45:31.100 Amen.

00:45:32.500 Amen.

00:45:34.380 And as well, we did the Via de la Rosa on the way, and the Stations of the Cross.

00:45:40.140 That's right. So later on, you and I went, and we did the entire Via de la Rosa.

00:45:46.920 So the Via de la Rosa is the way of suffering, Dolores.

00:45:50.200 And on that, it is the 14 Stations of the Cross, 1 through 10 are outside on the street, and then the last four, 11 to 14, are all within the Church of the Holy Sepulchre itself.

00:46:03.000 And so, the last four Stations, of course, where Jesus is nailed, where Jesus is crucified, Jesus is laid, and then where Jesus is entombed.

00:46:14.280 And we did, I don't think I've done an actual Stations of the Cross and said it all the way through since Confirmation.

00:46:23.360 Family that prays together, stays together.

00:46:25.300 Family that prays together, stays together.

00:46:26.620 Patrick Payton.

00:46:27.280 Patrick Payton.

00:46:28.120 Amen.

00:46:28.360 But, yeah, I mean, that was.

00:46:30.880 And the full Stations of the Cross like that.

00:46:33.780 That was, that was, that was the whole shebang. 0.99

00:46:36.840 I mean, mom was, mom was balling, dad was crying.

00:46:39.760 Dad was balling.

00:46:40.980 When dad got in and saw the slab, he just started.

00:46:44.540 I couldn't even, I couldn't even look at that.

00:46:45.820 I was going to lose it.

00:46:46.800 Yeah, and the fact that we were able to be there, and I, of course, had done it before with Tanya, but.

00:46:52.440 What he continues to do.

00:46:54.220 That's right.

00:46:54.660 He exists.

00:46:55.680 To be there with.

00:46:56.620 Beyond space and time.

00:46:58.360 With mom and dad, with you, with the kids.

00:47:03.320 That was very special.

00:47:05.180 The Bible is not just a book.

00:47:07.580 And if you think it is, then you're missing half the story.

00:47:13.740 In fact, you're missing the large part of the story.

00:47:16.100 And I would say this as a message to even folks out there who are agnostic or even atheists and non-believer types that, look, you know, not everybody's going to be like Kevin and I, kneeling and praying in Latin inside the Church of the Holy Sepulcher.

00:47:35.680 Although you should be, but just understand that you can't really understand Western civilization, Western society, our history, our institutions, our way of life, unless you understand all of this.

00:47:52.560 Because this has been a massive part of the creation of Western society and Western culture.

00:47:58.380 Whether you want to believe in the supernatural metaphysical aspects of it or not.

00:48:05.540 That you have to at least acknowledge that this is a major, major part of what got us to where we are now.

00:48:14.340 What is directing us still as we're going.

00:48:18.720 There are traditions that are being passed on certainly from Father and Son.

00:48:24.480 And in this case, I was able to take my two children to all of those sites along with us.

00:48:30.000 In some cases, literally carrying them on my back if I had to.

00:48:33.780 But the point being that that's something...

00:48:36.200 For the sake of the pilgrimage.

00:48:37.240 That's something that hopefully that one day they'll be able to do with their children when I'm older and my knees are getting bad and I'm complaining in the back seat that they're taking their kids as well.

00:48:51.420 My final thought is...

00:48:51.800 Pray without ceasing.

00:48:53.160 This is my second time in Israel.

00:48:54.820 Just come.

00:48:55.980 Just come.

00:48:56.560 Just hop on the plane and come.

00:48:57.800 Just come do it.

00:48:59.120 Visit the Holy Land.

00:49:01.200 You will not regret it.

00:49:02.580 And you will always be able to say that every time that you turn a page in the Bible, you'll realize, wait a minute.

00:49:09.160 I remember exactly what that was like because I was there.

00:49:12.800 Amen.

00:49:13.400 Amen.

00:49:13.900 Amen.

00:49:14.780 Hey, what are you doing?

00:49:15.600 Amen.

00:49:15.820 In nomine Patris, et Filii, et Spiritus Sancti. Amen.

00:49:20.460 Pater nostru, qui es in Celi, santi vicetra nomen tuum, adveniat regnum tuum,

00:49:26.000 thier voluntas tua, sicut in cielo et in terra,

00:49:29.180 param nostrum, quotidianum da nobis odie,

00:49:32.100 et dimite nobis debeta nostra, sicut et nos dimitimus debitoribus nostris,

00:49:37.220 et nenos in ducas in tentationen, set libera nos amalav. Amen.

00:49:42.500 In nomine Pater, et Filii, et Spiritus Sancti. Amen.

00:49:45.020 Ladies and gentlemen, as always, you have my permission for issuing.

Human Events Daily with Jack Posobiec - October 14, 2023

EPISODE 582： HOLY LAND SPECIAL

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