Jack and his family spent a week in the Holy Land, visiting some of the most important sites in the world, including the Dead Sea, the site of the crucifixion, and the site where Jesus was buried. Jack talks about what it was like to be there, and why it's so important to remember where Jesus walked with his own feet.
00:11:59.160And you, well, even there, that's the lowest, the lowest point, the Dead Sea,
00:12:04.540the lowest surface point on the face of the earth that you can walk.
00:12:09.280And then that sea, of course, doesn't hold anything.
00:12:10.900But in the southern end, we were staying on the southern end, and they actually have a lot of excavation that goes on there to get the salt out.
00:12:36.020So they've divvied up with Jordan, who's on the other side, and they're finding ways to actually try to turn that into electric plants.
00:12:45.000Because, of course, energy, and just like before, living in the desert has its own set of realities that you have to figure out if you're going to spend time out there.
00:12:56.260It's unlike any other body of water I've ever been in.
00:12:59.300I put my hand in, and it felt like there's, like, there's, remember back in the day, there's machines, like, you put your hand in, and it, like, covers it in wax?
00:15:28.920Plus in a cave, so protected from the elements, that these 2,000 year old scrolls were found and to the point where you could even still read them.
00:15:41.360It's ancient Hebrew, but you could still read them.
00:15:43.920And they contain the oldest copies of the Bible that we still have to have ever been found.
00:15:55.520But they find the Dead Sea Scrolls and then bring the oldest translations to the Dead Sea Scrolls, put them together, and the words match exactly.
00:16:52.580They were the ones, the Franciscans, the Benedictines.
00:16:55.640They were the ones that were keeping all of this going on for hundreds of years in that point and really carried that light all the way through those ages.
00:17:04.700So you didn't have, you know, printing presses.
00:17:09.840And this is where you get your illuminated manuscripts and your codexes.
00:17:49.480So it says, hey, if the translations were correct, it was handed down to us properly, we can now go back, we can roll back that clock another 2,000 years.
00:18:04.740But if the Bible had different stories in the beginning, it would change the foundation.
00:18:11.240Well, there is one interesting angle to this, that one of the scrolls found at Qumran, of course, they had the scroll of Isaiah, they had all the major prophets,
00:18:22.700but one of the scrolls found at Qumran was the Book of Enoch.
00:18:34.260So one of the issues with this, of course, is that the Book of Enoch is considered apocrypha by every major church, every major Jewish sect that doesn't, you know, doesn't consider it to be valid.
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00:21:55.860So it could be, and there's a lot of scholarship on this, it could be that one of the reasons of the flood was to wipe out the Nephilim in the first instance.
00:22:07.560Because of what, because of, because they were never intended to be created.
00:22:11.000That this was something that was outside of God's creation, that, that the angels, and the fallen angels, the humans, were creating together.
00:22:20.940I guess that would fit into the context of, like, the world was, like, covered with sin.
00:22:27.740Yeah, right, and then, so the theory goes a little bit further, even, that the reason that the fallen angels were doing this was because they knew that the Messiah was to come from humanity, and that, to come from men, and that they knew that the Messiah would have domination over them.
00:22:49.560And so, because they didn't want that to happen, because they thought that maybe they could put a, put a wrench in God's design, because, of course, you can't, you couldn't defeat God, right?
00:23:12.560No, nothing could defeat, what are you going to do?
00:23:16.300You know, you know, you can't, but you could come into creation, and, of course, we know the first instance of, of being deceptive, the serpent, tempting you with sin.
00:23:27.740Of course, these are, these are ways to, to defile creation and to tempt humans into sin, but another way that, at one point, the Bible says, and this is, Genesis 6 is in the Bible, the Nephilim,
00:23:42.460and this is referring to this, this idea that a hybrid race was created in order to, in order to try to stop the creation of the Messiah.
00:23:56.640You keep mentioning the word creation, too, though, but what did Noah bring on the ark?
00:24:23.240And so, the theory goes a little bit further, even, that says that if you, that the book of Joshua, if you take this reading of it, then that means the book of Joshua, they're not just fighting other tribes.
00:24:38.600And they're clearing the land of Cana of these giants.
00:24:41.720And so that, that some had survived, and maybe not giants in the, you know, sort of cartoon version, but maybe just larger, stronger, more powerful, perhaps having some kind of supernatural or spiritual.
00:27:47.740And, there's a cable car, of course, for the kids.
00:27:50.140But, um, what did it, and, and so when, when the, the Zealots, who were, who were there, essentially staying away from the Romans, they were able to hold out for three years, three years, under siege from the Romans, in this palace, on the top of a mountain, in the middle of the desert, middle of the desert.
00:28:16.980With nothing other than the supplies that they had brought with them.
00:28:20.820So, they had a cistern up there, but no, no running water, keep in mind, just on the top of Masada.
00:28:28.640But, yeah, it just, it just brought this up, too.
00:28:33.660Like, this is from the tomb of King David.
00:28:36.400And, um, just to, like, emphasize, like, how they fought.
00:28:43.220But, it says, and I should merit to be bold like a leopard, light as an eagle, run like a, like a deer and strong as a lion, to do the desire of our Father in heaven.
00:28:53.920That's, I don't know if that's, is that from Maccabees?
00:29:17.760And, if anything, it's a fantastic example.
00:29:22.420You probably have half the people in the U.S. basically say, oh, well, it's probably better than our stupid racist, anti-immigrant, anti-woman, capitalist government.
00:29:35.880And they, you'd almost think that some of the people in the U.S. today might, might welcome a change of government.
00:29:43.700Which, of course, is, as you go through the Holy Land, you, you find out that one of the, the pieces of history here, and then, and obviously gets into the current situation, is that, you know, we are, or this land has gone through so many changes in terms of who's in charge of it.
00:30:02.780Whether it be, whether it be, whether it be the Israelites, whether it be the Babylonians, whether it be the Neo-Babylonians, whether it be Rome, whether it be Byzantium, whether it be the Ottoman Turks, the British, okay?
00:30:14.900And now it is a sovereign state again.
00:30:18.360And so, it's, it's really a story that, of just constant cycles of change.
00:30:23.900It's an example of having faith and your traditions till the end, like how, how the battle ended.
00:30:32.340Even when the Romans came, they did not surrender.
00:30:36.480And so, at the end, rather than surrender, rather than being taken into captivity, they did, they decided to take their own lives in Masada.
00:30:45.280And it was, I think there were some, some women and children were the only ones at the very end who were left when the Romans came up.
00:30:54.760So, we climbed it and we made sure that we weren't, we weren't taking no cable car, that's for sure.
00:31:03.200And that being said, we took the snake path.
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00:32:34.720I don't know that I would have taken the kids, even Jack-Jack, at age four.
00:32:39.920We did take both the kids through Hezekiah's tunnels.
00:32:56.460That's kind of lost in the modern day, but, like, working and sacrificing is, like, a way of penance and, like, a prayer to God.
00:33:03.840Even without your words, without all, like, your beautiful phrases or Instagram posts or whatever, just, like, just walking, you know, as, like, an offer to God, like, up the mountain and doing things like that.
00:33:18.540Hezekiah's tunnel, by the way, the water comes up to your waist just about.
00:43:30.760And so the very first morning of that, I woke up early, grabbed the kids, and grabbed mom,
00:43:37.700and we walked all the way down from where we're staying into the old city, and it was open
00:43:42.640already, it's about maybe 7.45 a.m., you know, no tourists were around, and we got to have some
00:43:48.940quiet alone time in the Church of the Holy Sepulchre.
00:43:51.920And so the Church of the Holy Sepulchre, for folks who don't know, is the spot, the church that was built, it's a massive church complex, which is venerated and recognized by both the Catholic Church, the Orthodox Church, as well as the Coptic Church, as the site of the crucifixion and the resurrection of Christ.
00:44:13.860This was the church that St. Helena, who was the mother of Emperor Constantine, founded all
00:44:21.440the way back in the 300s A.D., then in 1006 A.D., the Muslim Caliphate came and attacked the
00:44:35.240So they built this giant church over the site, over where the cross stood, the Rock of Golgotha, and then you can walk up, even today, and there's an altar on top of the Rock of Golgotha that you can put your hand under, touch the rock, touch where the cross stood, then come down on the other side, you walk across, you see the slab in the middle, and then the actual tomb of Christ is still there.
00:44:59.560And the word sepulchre means tomb, and this was the church that in 1006 A.D. that the Caliphate attacked, sacked the church itself, and led into motion the events that would later be called the Crusades, when all the Christian soldiers, the knights, and the kings came from Europe, from all across Christendom,
00:45:27.380to return to Jerusalem, to return to Jerusalem, and retake the Holy Land.
00:45:34.380And as well, we did the Via de la Rosa on the way, and the Stations of the Cross.
00:45:40.140That's right. So later on, you and I went, and we did the entire Via de la Rosa.
00:45:46.920So the Via de la Rosa is the way of suffering, Dolores.
00:45:50.200And on that, it is the 14 Stations of the Cross, 1 through 10 are outside on the street, and then the last four, 11 to 14, are all within the Church of the Holy Sepulchre itself.
00:46:03.000And so, the last four Stations, of course, where Jesus is nailed, where Jesus is crucified, Jesus is laid, and then where Jesus is entombed.
00:46:14.280And we did, I don't think I've done an actual Stations of the Cross and said it all the way through since Confirmation.
00:46:23.360Family that prays together, stays together.
00:46:25.300Family that prays together, stays together.
00:47:07.580And if you think it is, then you're missing half the story.
00:47:13.740In fact, you're missing the large part of the story.
00:47:16.100And I would say this as a message to even folks out there who are agnostic or even atheists and non-believer types that, look, you know, not everybody's going to be like Kevin and I, kneeling and praying in Latin inside the Church of the Holy Sepulcher.
00:47:35.680Although you should be, but just understand that you can't really understand Western civilization, Western society, our history, our institutions, our way of life, unless you understand all of this.
00:47:52.560Because this has been a massive part of the creation of Western society and Western culture.
00:47:58.380Whether you want to believe in the supernatural metaphysical aspects of it or not.
00:48:05.540That you have to at least acknowledge that this is a major, major part of what got us to where we are now.
00:48:14.340What is directing us still as we're going.
00:48:18.720There are traditions that are being passed on certainly from Father and Son.
00:48:24.480And in this case, I was able to take my two children to all of those sites along with us.
00:48:30.000In some cases, literally carrying them on my back if I had to.
00:48:33.780But the point being that that's something...
00:48:37.240That's something that hopefully that one day they'll be able to do with their children when I'm older and my knees are getting bad and I'm complaining in the back seat that they're taking their kids as well.