Human Events Daily with Jack Posobiec - EPISODE 589： HIS NAME IS OWEN SHROYER

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00:00:49.580 Deliver us from evil.

00:00:51.040 The test for the West and for civilization is Hamas. 0.99

00:00:55.180 If Hamas emerges victorious, we will all lose. 0.95

00:01:00.860 Europe will be endangered.

00:01:02.240 Today, here at home, hundreds of people filled the streets of Bay Ridge, Brooklyn, calling for an end to the attacks on civilians in Gaza.

00:01:09.220 What is this level of concern right now about the potential rise of anti-Semitism in light of everything that's going on in Israel?

00:01:16.280 So, a couple of things.

00:01:17.900 Muslim and those perceived to be Muslim have endured a disproportionate number of hate-fueled attacks.

00:01:24.860 And certainly, President Biden understands that many of our Muslim Arab Americans and Palestinian American loved ones and neighbors are worried about the hate being directed at their communities.

00:01:35.260 Republican members of Congress planned to nominate a new candidate for Speaker of the House today, three weeks after deposing former Speaker Kevin McCarthy.

00:01:43.240 All the candidates gave their pitch to their colleagues last night with a key figure in the background, former President Donald Trump.

00:01:50.260 To every American who is terrified that Crooked Joe's weakness will cause catastrophic global conflict.

00:01:57.720 Excuse me.

00:01:58.660 It already is.

00:02:00.320 I make this promise to you as president.

00:02:03.800 I will restore peace through strength and we will prevent, we will stop World War III. 0.82

00:02:09.740 Owen Schroer here, and I am about to turn myself in to be a speech prisoner in Biden's America.

00:02:18.200 As an attorney who is also a Christian, I take my responsibilities as a lawyer very seriously, and I endeavor to be a person of sound moral and ethical character in all of my dealings.

00:02:29.420 In the wake of the 2020 presidential election, I believed that challenging the results on behalf of President Trump should be pursued in a just and legal way.

00:02:40.100 I endeavored to represent my client to the best of my ability.

00:02:43.820 I relied on others, including lawyers with many more years of experience than I, to provide me with true and reliable information, especially since my role involved speaking to the media and to legislators in various states.

00:02:55.520 What I did not do, but should have done, Your Honor, was to make sure that the facts the other lawyers alleged to be true were, in fact, true.

00:03:03.920 In the frenetic pace of attempting to raise challenges to the election in several states, including Georgia, I failed to do my due diligence.

00:03:13.200 Ladies and gentlemen, welcome aboard.

00:03:15.120 Today's edition of Human Events Daily with Jack Posobiec.

00:03:17.840 We are live from Washington, D.C.

00:03:20.080 Today is October 24, 2023.

00:03:22.500 I know, Domini.

00:03:22.980 Today, struggle sessions, show trials, American gulags.

00:03:32.920 Today, Owen Schroer is on his way to federal prison.

00:03:41.820 He's been ordered to arrive there.

00:03:46.220 J. Owen Schroer, inmate number 05937.

00:03:54.900 J. Owen Schroer, inmate number 05937.

00:04:04.560 You see, Owen's not just going to jail for himself.

00:04:09.080 He's going to jail for all of us, whether you believe in free speech or you think it's just a punchline.

00:04:17.760 That's what this day is about to come for all of us.

00:04:22.860 So the question is, what's going to happen?

00:04:26.380 How are you going to act when you get the knock at the door?

00:04:31.040 Or your family?

00:04:32.860 Or your kids?

00:04:34.680 Are you going to show the same courage that Owen did?

00:04:38.120 Or are you going to roll on your friends, your family, your neighbors?

00:04:43.760 See, Owen could have taken the easy way out.

00:04:46.980 Owen could have made up a story, named names.

00:04:50.540 And guess what?

00:04:52.160 He'd be spending Thanksgiving at home.

00:04:56.660 Be with his friends, be with his family.

00:04:58.000 But he's not.

00:05:00.280 And why is he going behind bars?

00:05:01.760 For what?

00:05:02.460 For talking?

00:05:03.240 For standing up for the truth?

00:05:06.060 For doing his job as an American and a journalist?

00:05:11.020 For exercising his right to freedom of speech?

00:05:15.060 No.

00:05:15.820 See, they want to be in your head.

00:05:17.500 They want you to be questioning every click on your mouse pad, every like on X.

00:05:22.540 They won't be satisfied until the silent majority is silenced forever.

00:05:26.920 And that is why the do the work that we do.

00:05:30.100 That's why we stand for patriots like Owen.

00:05:32.900 That's why we stand for people like Trump, who's been arrested four times already.

00:05:36.380 The one man standing up for peace, standing up for freedom.

00:05:39.680 Guess what?

00:05:40.160 It's not a catchphrase.

00:05:41.640 I told you it was going to get worse.

00:05:44.740 We're seeing the struggle sessions.

00:05:46.580 Doug Mackey, Jenna Ellis.

00:05:48.080 We're seeing all of this.

00:05:49.540 We're in the middle of perhaps the greatest tribulation our republic has ever seen.

00:05:56.320 And the only way out, ladies and gentlemen, the only way out is through.

00:06:04.960 James Lindsay joins us for the rest of the show.

00:06:07.640 We are going to go through this because we are facing internal regime crackdowns and external sleepwalking into World War III.

00:06:18.300 James Lindsay joins us next.

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00:06:56.620 All right, Jack Posobiec back here live.

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00:08:34.780 Want to bring in now our next guest, Dr. James Lindsay of New Discourses. 0.96

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00:08:48.580 Now, Dr. Lindsay, I just have to ask you, you know, where I titled this show Struggle

00:08:54.300 Sessions, Gulags, and Show Trials in America.

00:08:58.140 My question for you is, why is it that nobody predicted this, that no one in America saw that

00:09:03.860 we were heading down this road, that nobody really connected all the dots and put it together?

00:09:09.740 Why were we so blindsided by this occurring here on American soil?

00:09:14.140 Well, it's basically because as good and decent and responsible people, we've all shied away

00:09:19.360 very carefully from anything that would be called a conspiracy theory.

00:09:22.460 So we don't share conspiracy theories.

00:09:24.400 If you do, the SPLC calls you out, puts you on a list.

00:09:27.720 And so we're all very careful.

00:09:29.120 We're all very responsible.

00:09:30.160 We're all very dignified.

00:09:31.640 And we only say very careful and responsible things.

00:09:35.140 For example, that we would never suggest that there's cultural Marxism in the United States.

00:09:39.640 That's a conspiracy theory.

00:09:40.880 We would never suggest that there's a Maoist cultural revolution happening in the United

00:09:44.780 States.

00:09:45.140 That's a conspiracy theory.

00:09:46.320 We would never even mention the words Agenda 2030 because that's literally a conspiracy

00:09:50.180 theory that's all over their website.

00:09:51.860 It's because we're responsible, Jack, that nobody could see this coming because nobody talked

00:09:56.180 about it except for people who would traffic in conspiracy theories that nobody should ever

00:10:00.080 associate with because that would result in you being a conspiracy theorist too.

00:10:03.340 That's right.

00:10:05.080 So these conspiracy theories, they're not just bad thoughts.

00:10:09.560 They're actually wrong thoughts.

00:10:11.400 And wrong thought must be stamped out.

00:10:13.320 And in fact, that's why it's, you know, Owen Schroer is not going to jail for speech.

00:10:17.860 He's going to jail for wrong thought.

00:10:20.180 And of course, this is right and good because that is why Owen Schroer, inmate number 05937,

00:10:26.040 Owen Schroer, inmate number 05937.

00:10:28.360 Of course, not only does he, should he be behind bars, but the, you know, the really

00:10:34.220 only problem here is that Owen's not going to jail for much longer, isn't it?

00:10:38.520 Yeah, that's right.

00:10:38.980 Because when Mao Zedong, for example, was running China in the 1950s and he had his prisons

00:10:44.240 before the Cultural Revolution, but even going into the Cultural Revolution, they labeled

00:10:48.280 people like Owen a bad element.

00:10:50.880 That was the name for them, bad elements. 0.76

00:10:52.400 And they were classified under the black class of enemies of the people.

00:10:56.380 And enemies of the people need to be locked up.

00:10:58.080 They need to be put away.

00:10:59.000 They need to be thought reformed.

00:11:00.180 They need to be put through a struggle session so that they learn to confess to the crimes

00:11:03.360 that they committed against the people so that they can see from the people's standpoint.

00:11:07.000 And after they see from the people's standpoint and confess to their crimes in true sincerity

00:11:10.220 and have been fully thought reformed, then they can reenter society as part of the people

00:11:14.780 that fights for the socialist discipline and socialist revolution that's at hand, because

00:11:18.800 that's exactly how these societies work.

00:11:22.260 Now, let me explain this for the folks at home.

00:11:25.620 Why is it so important that these enemies of the people or as Mao called them enemies of

00:11:31.640 the people, we call them enemies of democracy.

00:11:33.580 It's the same exact thing.

00:11:34.900 Of course, we're fighting the same fight.

00:11:36.880 Why is it so important that they recant their wrong thought?

00:11:41.260 Why is it so important that they embrace truth?

00:11:45.560 Why is it so important that they love Big Brother in the end?

00:11:48.320 Well, the thing is, Jack, honestly, it's not actually that important that they recant their

00:11:53.880 wrong thought or embrace new truth.

00:11:56.600 What's important is that they do it publicly.

00:11:58.660 It's important that they show everybody that they caved in and gave in and wanted to do better.

00:12:03.140 It's really about the demonstration to the people themselves, to encourage the people,

00:12:07.400 to moralize the people, to get them to understand that the stakes of the situation are very serious.

00:12:12.320 So it's really more about the public recanting than it is about recanting or repenting or

00:12:18.120 anything of that sort.

00:12:19.100 It's all about making sure that the public knows that the state has the power to make

00:12:23.960 sure that people will stand in front of them and confess fully to crimes that were completely

00:12:28.120 made up on arbitrary terms so that, you know, the glory of the state can continue.

00:12:34.920 Well, that's right.

00:12:35.320 And even during and obviously you're mentioning the 50s, but even during the 1960s in the Chinese

00:12:39.340 Cultural Revolution, when it was rampant with these struggle sessions conducted largely by

00:12:43.980 the Red Guard youth at the time, this is when Mao decided to throw away even the party cadres

00:12:49.180 and the courts and just went straight to essentially youth to allow this to go through and extremely

00:12:55.340 fervent extremism, brutalism that came out in these sessions where in some cases they wouldn't

00:13:01.520 even have to actually personally say something because they came up with a new system because

00:13:05.520 sometimes, you know, there's just the practicalities of getting someone, you need microphones and

00:13:10.340 plus if you've beaten them around the head, face and neck too much, it's hard for them to get the voice

00:13:14.680 out.

00:13:14.900 So what they, they, they found a better way to do it and all they did, remember logistics

00:13:19.400 over strategy, logistics over strategy.

00:13:22.420 Uh, they put a big sign around their neck reading essentially, uh, anti, anti-revolutionary

00:13:30.800 extremist, counter-revolutionary extremist.

00:13:32.920 In some cases, this is my favorite one, literal term, right wing extremist.

00:13:38.160 They just painted it on a giant sign and made it hang around your neck before, you know,

00:13:42.000 sometimes they'll let you go home, other times they send you to the gulag every once in a

00:13:45.240 while.

00:13:45.740 And these are really special occasions. 0.99

00:13:47.420 You've got summarily executed with one bullet in the back of the head and then your family 0.95

00:13:51.500 was sent a bill for the bullet. 0.98

00:13:53.180 They call it the bullet tax.

00:13:55.180 Yeah.

00:13:55.740 Um, the most famous or maybe it's not the most famous to most people of these episodes happened

00:14:00.640 to the guy named Lu Xiaoqi who was given, uh, the, the, the chairman seat of the CCP when

00:14:06.360 Mao had to step down.

00:14:07.760 Yeah.

00:14:08.300 Lu Xiaoqi after, um, Mao stepped down for the great leap forward and, you know, a hundred million

00:14:12.740 people dying and destruction of China's economy.

00:14:14.820 So they made him step down while he wasn't really going to have that, he unleashed the

00:14:18.160 Red Guard.

00:14:18.660 And so in the Red Guard in 1967, about a year and a half into their, to their, their escapades

00:14:23.080 round up Lu Xiaoqi, the president of the CCP, drag him out, put the whole show on for the

00:14:28.260 public, for them to see, waving the red books, denouncing him, shaming him, hanging the thing

00:14:32.680 off of him.

00:14:33.640 And, you know, he says, am I not a citizen?

00:14:35.760 Can I not speak?

00:14:36.500 And they say, no, you're an enemy of the people.

00:14:38.080 And they shame him and they humiliate him. 0.99

00:14:39.420 They send him off to the countryside to die in misery.

00:14:41.820 And Mao ascends back to power.

00:14:43.200 And then the punchline of the whole story is just glorious.

00:14:46.040 Like a month and a half or so, two months later, Mao decides that the Red Guard has become

00:14:50.340 too radical and too left and has to be put down by the People's Liberation Army so that

00:14:55.120 they can move on to the next phase of building socialism, which is, it doesn't have any use

00:14:59.360 for a destabilizing youth movement.

00:15:02.480 It has, it has a different set of purposes at that point.

00:15:06.660 Well, it's a good thing we don't have any destabilizing youth movements in this country

00:15:09.520 though, right, James?

00:15:10.120 Yeah, we don't have a Rainbow Guard.

00:15:13.020 We don't have a Green Guard that's being encouraged by Barack Obama and Joe Biden and

00:15:16.720 or any of these things.

00:15:17.540 We don't have any of that happening.

00:15:18.880 We don't see them somehow.

00:15:20.680 Like, for example, on campuses or something.

00:15:21.960 Yeah, they've all dropped all their other causes to back the Palestinian Liberation Organization.

00:15:28.940 It's very odd how, you know, we don't have those here, but sometimes it feels like we

00:15:33.760 might have those here.

00:15:34.640 Yeah, it feels like there might be some, I don't know, revolutionary youth movement backing

00:15:41.480 a proto-communist Islamo-terrorist group overseas because they're essentially extrapolating that

00:15:50.860 form of oppressor versus oppressive situation overseas, again, through their lens, and then

00:15:57.740 applying it here to the United States and really Western countries in general, declaring us

00:16:03.380 to be the perpetuators of apartheid.

00:16:06.120 And then, of course, taking the philosophical notes of certain, I don't know, shall we say

00:16:11.300 Caribbean-type philosophers and saying that any violence that's done in the name of decolonization

00:16:19.020 basically is therefore justified.

00:16:20.980 There's nothing like that would ever happen in the U.S.

00:16:22.680 No, it's like as I watch on the screen, there's footage of a San Francisco high school, and

00:16:27.360 I think about the big, gigantic side of a building in San Francisco painted with a very

00:16:31.540 ugly image of Greta Thunberg. 1.00

00:16:33.000 I can't imagine something like that being anything like what we're seeing here in the

00:16:37.400 U.S.

00:16:37.640 Now, of course, Greta Thunberg just got in trouble, yet again, on the social medias, on

00:16:41.000 the Twitter, for putting out some stuff in favor of Palestine, including some anti-Semitic

00:16:45.880 dog whistles or something like this, and then she deleted it all, and it's all this big

00:16:49.740 very anti-Semitic stuffed animal.

00:16:51.420 She had a very anti-Semitic stuffed animal perched on her shoulder, apparently.

00:16:57.700 Yeah, it's just a plushie.

00:17:00.000 It's okay.

00:17:01.020 No, nothing like this could possibly happen in this society.

00:17:05.420 That would be a conspiracy theory.

00:17:07.380 Only a bad element or a right-wing extremist would share something like that.

00:17:11.100 You know, you'd end up on an SPLC watch list, like I said.

00:17:13.380 You'll end up getting called domestic terrorists by the FBI.

00:17:16.260 All kinds of crazy things will happen to you, and obviously, the state is always right, and

00:17:21.360 the state is always good.

00:17:22.380 So, you know, like they said, in China, man, woman, boy, girl, we're all the same.

00:17:26.980 We have the exact same things not happening here under any circumstances, because, man,

00:17:31.680 do I ever love Big Brother.

00:17:34.320 Yes, and of course, as then, and of course, the SPLC union coming out with a full-throated

00:17:38.680 support of Hamas.

00:17:39.880 We celebrate that.

00:17:41.160 We congratulate the SPLC union for being such fervent supporters of Hamas and their 1.00

00:17:48.120 cause.

00:17:48.940 We're going up on a quick break here.

00:17:51.300 We're speaking with Dr. James Lindsay.

00:17:53.460 He's breaking down for us all the things that are not happening in the United States.

00:17:57.840 Thank goodness they're not here.

00:17:59.560 Thank goodness these things are not sweeping across the West, inculcated through the radicalization

00:18:06.540 centers of the university system, which, by the way, are given a free flow of funding

00:18:12.660 from For the Enemies of the Republic.

00:18:15.160 And I would just like to say, of course, to anyone else who might be watching,

00:18:19.540 I love Chairman Mao.

00:18:29.240 I love Tiananmen Square.

00:18:31.100 Tiananmen Square is the birthplace of the sun itself.

00:18:34.760 God bless our great helmsman.

00:18:39.660 You know, they talk about influences.

00:18:42.000 These are influences, and they're friends of mine.

00:18:46.260 Jack Prasovic.

00:18:47.760 Where's Jack?

00:18:48.720 Jack.

00:18:49.700 He's done a great job.

00:18:51.600 All right, Jack Prasovic back here live, Human Events Daily.

00:18:56.560 Dr. James Lindsay joining us.

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00:20:25.960 And man, I wish we could do the sarcasm bit for the entire show.

00:20:28.720 But unfortunately, no, we are living through these times.

00:20:31.840 These things are happening on our shores.

00:20:33.660 But you and I were chatting offline about this.

00:20:35.980 And we have a long piece up at humanevents.com really talking about how this Hamas situation

00:20:43.260 has really broken up a lot of the coalition of intersectionality.

00:20:48.040 And a lot of people are pointing out to the fact that this is a huge issue for wokeness.

00:20:53.060 Then you have BLM coming out in full-throated support of Hamas, Coca-Cola dropping them quietly

00:21:01.740 from their website.

00:21:02.940 Is something going on?

00:21:04.320 Is this actually going to break the back of wokeness?

00:21:07.660 Where do you see this going?

00:21:09.720 So there have been kind of, if we might use the slang phrasing, red pill hurricanes.

00:21:15.000 There have been two moments in the past several years where we really got to look behind the

00:21:20.400 curtain. And one of those was when COVID-19 had swept the world.

00:21:23.700 And all of a sudden, everything in the universe had to be shut down.

00:21:26.840 There was even a protest at the Michigan Statehouse.

00:21:28.960 And they got shut down because of COVID.

00:21:30.800 And they were trying to protest for their rights.

00:21:32.760 And that's not allowed.

00:21:34.520 And then all of a sudden, George Floyd died.

00:21:36.500 And COVID went on pause.

00:21:38.140 They were rioting, looting, burning cities, huge, huge protests, even for the 93% that were

00:21:43.720 peaceful, huge gatherings, which were suddenly allowed in the name of racial justice.

00:21:47.780 And people started to realize something must be going on.

00:21:50.460 That was the first really big look behind the curtain.

00:21:53.300 There are other things from COVID as well.

00:21:54.840 Parents seeing through the window of Zoom into their children's classrooms for the first

00:21:59.840 time.

00:22:00.420 But the second really big one is this.

00:22:02.660 This is the really big one where we're seeing leftist organization after leftist organization

00:22:06.280 revealing one of their oldest maxims that the issue is never the issue.

00:22:10.800 The issue is always the revolution.

00:22:13.000 And so they have banded together in solidarity.

00:22:14.740 Black Lives Matter has revealed itself to be the communist-styled liberation project that 0.79

00:22:20.500 it always was.

00:22:21.860 And a lot of people are shocked to find this out.

00:22:23.900 People are discovering that our universities have, in fact, been domestic terror training

00:22:28.340 cells under the auspices of woke inclusion for a large number of years.

00:22:33.140 And I'm hearing cataclysmic, tectonic shifts in people's attitudes toward what woke is

00:22:41.780 and was, what it represents, and what needs to be done about it.

00:22:44.780 So this might be a very powerful, defining moment in the history of the trajectory of

00:22:50.020 the Western world.

00:22:52.100 Well, and we really have to point it out, too, because this is something that has actually

00:22:56.500 already, and of course, Charlie Kirk has talked about it a ton, this has affected the money.

00:23:00.500 So there's a lot of donors to these alumni and others that go to these universities and

00:23:07.160 have come out and said, whoa, wait a minute, that's what I've been funding this whole time?

00:23:11.360 Which, of course, people like you and me are saying they're going, yeah, yeah, yes, it is

00:23:16.220 what you've been funding this entire time.

00:23:18.400 But for, and we can go into the myriad reasons why they weren't open to seeing it.

00:23:23.040 But the real salient point is they do see it now.

00:23:26.380 And Chris Ruffo and I, by the way, were chatting about this yesterday, just sort of tweeting

00:23:30.480 back and forth or, I don't know, X-ing back and forth, which probably sounds weird.

00:23:35.120 I'm not going to say that again.

00:23:39.520 Chris and I do that in the evenings.

00:23:42.380 It's our private time.

00:23:44.660 That these people don't necessarily look at this as this long extrapolated history and

00:23:53.520 the intertwined issues of the Palestinians and Israel, et cetera, et cetera.

00:23:58.400 No, a lot of these theorists just look at this as sort of the white looking people versus

00:24:03.460 the brown looking people.

00:24:05.120 And then they come up with all the justifications, rationalizations after the fact, once they've

00:24:09.080 made that distinction.

00:24:10.280 Clearly, this group must be oppressing this other group.

00:24:12.340 They don't really explain why very much.

00:24:14.200 They just sort of take their preset narrative and they graft it onto any situation that's going

00:24:18.540 on in the world.

00:24:19.440 So that's really where you get a lot of this.

00:24:21.340 Turns out, James, it turns out that the very same thing that they've been preaching every

00:24:26.680 single day here in the United States is also what they support overseas.

00:24:30.320 Wow.

00:24:30.660 Who would have thought?

00:24:33.120 Yeah, well, these roots are very deep.

00:24:35.060 The ties are very deep.

00:24:36.060 A lot of the strategies that are used by the woke were developed in Palestine and vice versa.

00:24:41.340 The philosophical roots of woke actually are very similar to the philosophical roots of the

00:24:47.680 Arab world that we see erupting right now. 0.93

00:24:50.060 We're talking characters like Jean-Paul Sartre.

00:24:53.160 We're talking even Nazi ideology getting imported.

00:24:56.620 Simone de Beauvoir, believe it or not, was popular in the Arab world in the 50s and 60s.

00:25:01.120 These same leftist influences that transformed the West into woke transformed the Arab world 0.91

00:25:06.540 into this kind of rabid Islamic nationalism that we're seeing driven by entities like Hamas.

00:25:11.460 And so when you see a state like Israel that now poses to bring in some strong ties to Western

00:25:19.300 civilization, Western values into the region, it becomes this whole narrative of oppression

00:25:24.560 and settler colonialism that has to be taken under advisement of radicals that have informed

00:25:31.360 leftist thought in the universities for here in the West for decades.

00:25:35.520 People like France Fannin, who coined the idea of decolonization, said in the first sentence

00:25:41.420 of his book, The Wretched of the Earth, that it's always a violent phenomenon, no matter how

00:25:45.240 you want to frame it or phrase it.

00:25:47.240 And people like Edward Said, who've been writing, who was a Palestinian himself, who was writing

00:25:52.580 about the concept of decolonization, taking up a lot of the French postmodernism in the

00:25:57.640 neo-Marxist line in order to explain the concept of colonialism.

00:26:01.560 And suddenly we're seeing that we've been incubating this for 50 years, 60 years in our

00:26:06.020 universities.

00:26:06.460 It's erupting out around this particular conflict.

00:26:09.500 And people are rightly shocked by what they're seeing.

00:26:12.260 But it's about time for them to spend a little time reading some of these sources themselves

00:26:15.720 and realizing that this is, in fact, what we've been funding and nourishing and nurturing

00:26:20.400 and teaching to our children now, which explains these crazy graphs that 75 percent of young

00:26:26.340 people, 18 to 24, think that what Hamas did was justified because of the settler colonialism

00:26:33.860 that they've been led to believe in through a woke postcolonial lens.

00:26:39.360 Right.

00:26:39.860 And that's exactly the point I'm getting at, where essentially it becomes this, oh, it's

00:26:43.060 decolonization, it's postcolonial, et cetera, et cetera, which, and you're right that these

00:26:46.820 roots do run very deep.

00:26:48.520 But what's amazing is that it, you know, it, why is it, I'll put it this way, why did they

00:26:53.660 never think that these youth groups that have been building up, that these movements

00:26:59.160 that have been, that have been inculcated this, and I'm just going to say it, they're

00:27:02.780 hate, they're hate movements.

00:27:03.920 They really are.

00:27:04.720 In many of these cases, again, this is collective punishment.

00:27:07.760 This is the idea of, which is completely, you know, goes, and I see, I see there's a

00:27:12.020 lot of people sometimes even on the right who say this, they say, oh, what's the Christian

00:27:15.520 thing to do?

00:27:16.040 What's the Christian thing to do?

00:27:16.980 I said, well, the Christian thing would be individual morality.

00:27:20.020 An individual morality means holding someone accountable for their own personal sins.

00:27:25.300 That's Christian morality.

00:27:26.360 It's not collective morality.

00:27:27.820 It's not collective punishment.

00:27:29.160 It's not collective justice.

00:27:30.520 Any of these things.

00:27:31.800 Those are inherently Marxist forms of morality is why we call it cultural Marxism in many of

00:27:38.240 these cases, because they're applying it in these ways.

00:27:40.620 It used to be about class, it was about culture, et cetera.

00:27:42.700 People get it.

00:27:43.520 But why do you think that they never thought that it would be applied essentially to them?

00:27:48.380 There's a couple of reasons, one of which is that the prevailing attitude has been, well,

00:27:53.500 these are just young people and the young people, you know, they'll get out in the real

00:27:56.540 world and the real world or start to straighten them out, which we've been slowly disabused

00:28:00.100 about for the last 15 years and especially the last five years.

00:28:03.840 The young people are coming out of these, especially elite institutions and remaking the 1.00

00:28:07.440 world around them to suit their suit what they've been brainwashed into believing.

00:28:11.560 But the other reason is exactly what we were talking about when we were doing our little

00:28:16.500 sarcasm bit in the previous segment, which is simply enough that right winger is one or

00:28:21.620 conservative is one of the categories that has been demonized so that vaguely center left 1.00

00:28:28.160 and progressive minded people associate that with being bad, stupid and probably crazy for 1.00

00:28:35.060 a number of decades. 1.00

00:28:35.980 The Daily Show took our entire generation and convinced convinced it that there was something

00:28:40.440 shameful about identifying conservative values whatsoever to have even one was shameful.

00:28:46.120 And so here these kids are, maybe they're getting they're young, maybe they're getting

00:28:49.560 carried away.

00:28:50.360 But the fact is, you know, they're just saying kind of extreme young person versions of the

00:28:55.920 same attitudes that, you know, we don't want to be associated with right wing stuff.

00:28:59.200 And so the stuff that they were saying, which is exactly as you described, fit with a broader

00:29:04.060 narrative of at least they're not conservative, which is intrinsically bad.

00:29:07.260 And that's that is the first and thus last spell that has to be broken in order for us

00:29:12.060 to break free of this very scary moment that we've come to, that normal everyday people who've

00:29:17.960 been propagandized to believe that right winger is an enemy of the people by definition have

00:29:22.320 to realize that that's actually not true.

00:29:24.200 It's just a political disposition and set of views that there is well within the range of

00:29:30.280 normal and acceptable thought and discourse all across the board.

00:29:34.280 They've adopted Maoism without realizing they've adopted Maoism.

00:29:38.440 That's exactly right.

00:29:39.680 And we've described it so many times that what they've done is essentially profited off of

00:29:46.460 this.

00:29:47.060 In many cases, they've created and not just profited, created an entire industry, an entire

00:29:51.700 field that didn't exist prior to really prior to, as you mentioned, the the Obama administration.

00:29:57.980 But this was like one guy in an office somewhere on like the back of campus, you know, in the

00:30:02.920 90s or the 80s.

00:30:04.200 And now it's like these whole fields.

00:30:05.780 You've got DEI mavens at every corporation.

00:30:09.800 And by the way, I've even seen some of these accounts saying, oh, my gosh, I can't believe

00:30:12.860 they're applying this to Jewish people.

00:30:15.180 But by the way, that doesn't mean that I'm going to stop supporting DEI.

00:30:19.020 So even people that are facing the brunt of it are just trying to correct it so that it

00:30:24.580 doesn't come after them.

00:30:25.580 And it's like, no, no, you can't just redirect the alligator.

00:30:29.840 Just feed him something else.

00:30:30.780 Feed him something else.

00:30:31.500 No, no.

00:30:32.220 You have to get rid of it.

00:30:33.240 You have to get rid of the predator completely.

00:30:36.340 You're just going to be the one that eats last.

00:30:37.940 Don't come for me.

00:30:38.720 Come for those guys.

00:30:39.740 Right.

00:30:40.200 This is what is always going to happen when you go in with any of these situations.

00:30:43.800 Coming back on another graph.

00:30:45.460 I want to get back in here.

00:30:46.560 I see another break.

00:30:47.880 But when we get back in, I want to talk about what this does mean on the world stage.

00:30:51.800 We're talking to Dr.

00:30:52.500 James Lindsay's being very generous with our time here at Human Events Daily.

00:30:58.540 They're about the boring people at your office.

00:31:01.120 I'm trying to listen to the new human events with Jack Posobiec.

00:31:04.760 All right, Jack Posobiec back here live at Human Events Daily.

00:31:08.780 We're speaking with Dr.

00:31:09.660 James Lindsay.

00:31:11.420 This is a huge situation.

00:31:14.080 But Dr.

00:31:15.160 Lindsay James, we're having this conversation about wokeness, how this could really lead to

00:31:21.640 a huge fissure, major potential.

00:31:25.020 I wouldn't say rightward turn, but I would say pulling back away from the abyss of the

00:31:30.180 left away from this, you know, the politics of envy, this insanity that we've been going

00:31:35.060 through for all these years, you know, Coca-Cola deleting BLM, right?

00:31:38.760 The idea that three years ago, that if you didn't remember the black square and everything

00:31:42.920 else, if you didn't comply, if you didn't march, if you didn't put up the fist, now suddenly

00:31:47.100 people are looking at the, people are even looking at the George Floyd case again.

00:31:51.040 People actually reading the autopsy that's been available the entire time.

00:31:54.140 People are saying, you know, there was no damage to the neck.

00:31:57.120 And in fact, they, they forced the medical examiner to change his testimony so that they

00:32:02.920 could charge everybody.

00:32:04.120 Again, all of these facts were out there, but, but something has broken to the point where

00:32:08.220 people are actually, you know, just sort of that emotional spell has, has broken and

00:32:13.080 people are finally looking at it for the first time.

00:32:14.820 But at the same time that that's happening, we are also facing another problem and that's

00:32:20.460 on the world stage.

00:32:22.820 And a lot of these same forces, by the way, are also being inflamed to get people, and

00:32:28.380 I'm very concerned about this as I know you are, to, to essentially support calls for a

00:32:35.200 civilizational battle, a civilizational conflict, wage, these holy wars, getting involved in things

00:32:42.200 all across the world.

00:32:43.340 And it kind of feels like, kind of feels like it's 2003 again around here sometimes when

00:32:47.920 I see some of these people on TV saying, we must go to holy war, we must wage war on Iran

00:32:53.700 and Russia and China all at the same time.

00:32:56.600 And I'm like, whoa, wait, hold on a second, guys.

00:32:58.860 Like, I thought we were the anti-war side.

00:33:00.920 And now Elon Musk did this huge Twitter space, X space yesterday, really just coming out and

00:33:08.460 saying, we should, we should find peace deals.

00:33:10.620 We should find peace deals with, with Russia, with the Ukraine situation.

00:33:15.080 We should try to find a way to deal with them.

00:33:17.480 Look, we're all, we're all in this world together.

00:33:19.400 We have to live here.

00:33:20.360 And it's not about supporting anyone or endorsing anything.

00:33:23.000 It is about the future of humanity.

00:33:25.680 I know you feel very strongly about that.

00:33:27.500 What should people be worried about when we're in moments like this?

00:33:30.680 And what should we be looking for?

00:33:32.940 Well, I mean, in a moment like this, always, you have to worry about, about propaganda and

00:33:37.700 getting sucked up into emotional pleas and arguments for things that, you know, would be very

00:33:43.140 cathartic or very satisfying, but we also have to be able to take a step back.

00:33:46.900 We have to realize that anywhere there's a war, anytime there's a war, anytime there's

00:33:51.140 turned into an active measure for various purposes on social media in particular, that

00:33:56.020 there is a huge amount of propaganda that we have to always step back.

00:34:00.480 Anytime you feel yourself getting emotionally motivated, you've got to take a break.

00:34:04.460 You've got to think through what are the broader consequences because the game is to

00:34:08.000 get people, the game of propaganda is to get people emotionally involved so they support

00:34:12.680 things they would never support otherwise.

00:34:14.420 It's literally the purpose of propaganda if it's not to make you want to quit.

00:34:17.760 One of the two.

00:34:18.900 And so you've, you've really got to take some, some space there because, you know, the space

00:34:22.920 you mentioned with Elon was called sleepwalking toward World War III, if I'm, if I'm not mistaken.

00:34:27.480 And we're not sleepwalking toward World War III any more than Jeffrey Epstein sleepwalked

00:34:33.000 toward the noose in his cell or whatever.

00:34:36.640 We are, somebody with a gun to our back is walking us toward there and saying, look, everybody,

00:34:41.160 he's asleep.

00:34:41.700 He's sleepwalking.

00:34:42.680 We're being pushed toward this by forces that would benefit from the war, not just financial

00:34:46.900 forces.

00:34:47.880 We know now looking back, speaking of conspiracy theories, that World Wars I and II were both

00:34:52.900 very profitable for certain entities that funded aspects of both sides of them.

00:34:58.480 This isn't going to be different in this situation.

00:35:00.520 So I agree with Elon and I think he did us a real solid, but we, we shouldn't mischaracterize.

00:35:06.320 There are forces that want to drive us toward these wars that do not benefit the citizens

00:35:11.220 of any nation.

00:35:12.260 They benefit, uh, certain large political and corporate players that are working in tandem

00:35:18.280 to try to bring them about.

00:35:19.740 Uh, so we, we've got to be cautious.

00:35:21.740 We've got to be skeptical.

00:35:22.640 We've got to be hesitant and we've got to be as discerning and judicious as we can with

00:35:26.700 the decisions that we make.

00:35:27.820 No, I think that's exactly right.

00:35:30.940 And I think that's, that's also sober, right?

00:35:32.940 And I get it by the way.

00:35:34.320 I get that these images that we're seeing come out, it's, it's a terrorist attack.

00:35:39.260 Okay.

00:35:39.500 It was an actual terrorist attack that took place. 0.76

00:35:42.440 It's disgusting.

00:35:43.780 Um, zero sum 24, by the way, if people want to go follow that, you know, Twitter account

00:35:48.220 and telegram account, you, you can, um, it's private.

00:35:51.460 The telegram account is paid go.

00:35:53.520 He's got all the Hamas videos. 0.56

00:35:54.980 You guys want to go see that stuff.

00:35:56.220 It's real.

00:35:57.100 It's a hundred percent real.

00:35:58.080 And Oh, by the way, the bombings in Gaza are real too.

00:36:01.480 And they are hitting actual Christians. 0.70

00:36:03.760 Now I don't necessarily think that the, the Israelis are targeting, you know, civilians,

00:36:09.280 that kind of thing.

00:36:09.920 But at the same time, it is happening.

00:36:11.940 And it's ridiculous for people to attack you or attack anybody who calls this out simply

00:36:18.220 for reporting what's actually good.

00:36:19.820 Justin Amash lost members of his family.

00:36:21.660 Okay.

00:36:22.360 Right.

00:36:22.540 That's real.

00:36:23.040 That's a real thing.

00:36:23.600 That's members of his family that are never going to be coming back.

00:36:25.740 Uh, there was a Christian church that was damaged in one of these bombings.

00:36:28.780 It's okay to talk about these situations because they are real.

00:36:32.840 The real question is, and then again, and I had Scott Horton on here last week, and we're

00:36:36.880 talking about this because James, these images and these types of tactics, unfortunately have

00:36:44.980 the, have the tendency to create something called blowback, don't they?

00:36:49.340 Or blowback wars.

00:36:51.400 Oh, yeah, that's absolutely right.

00:36:52.680 And what we have to understand is for, we can use a term like masters of the universe that

00:36:56.880 are pulling all the strings for the globalists or whatever, is that they understand kind of

00:37:00.780 the, what you might call the magic of polarity or the pendulum swing, the concept of blowback.

00:37:05.760 They understand it's written in their, their own books, whether you're talking about Saul

00:37:08.940 Alinsky, whether we're talking about beautiful trouble today at beautiful trouble.org, you

00:37:13.500 can read the, the enemy's real action is treated as their targets reaction.

00:37:19.080 And so the goal is to, maybe it's the goal of the terrorist attack in the first place was

00:37:24.600 to provoke a reaction that then they can portray to the world in order to try to justify the

00:37:29.260 next step of something else.

00:37:30.320 This is, uh, uh, not just manufacturing consent, as you often hear describing propaganda, but

00:37:36.440 it's actually manufacturing the propaganda environment.

00:37:39.640 It's what?

00:37:40.840 I said it's almost Hegelian in a sense.

00:37:43.180 It is pure Hegelian.

00:37:45.120 In fact, and that's why when I say that there are forces driving this, that want this, like

00:37:48.680 the neocons who are in, in, in large part, old Hegelian masters of the universe types up

00:37:54.740 against the communists who are young Hegelian, uh, destroyers of the universe types.

00:37:58.660 You've got to realize that there is a bigger, broader play with a strategic element to it

00:38:03.500 that is designed to create reactions and then to make solutions out of the reactions.

00:38:08.340 And so the, not just sober, but strategic response to that is that you figure out how

00:38:15.080 they're trying to write the script and don't play the part they've written for you.

00:38:18.200 And if you do that, it foils their plans and it falls on its face and you can actually

00:38:21.900 take action outside of the scripted dynamic that they're trying to manufacture on, whether

00:38:27.380 it's a local national or a global stage.

00:38:31.920 And that's exactly right.

00:38:32.660 Because let's be, let's be honest.

00:38:34.180 These people aren't interested in seeking peace.

00:38:36.100 They're not interested in speaking, seeking stability.

00:38:38.760 They don't want to see economic prosperity.

00:38:41.600 They don't want, no, because we know that they're actually in search of this desired end

00:38:46.660 state of whether it be, whether it be a war or whether it be total, uh, you know, globalist

00:38:51.420 American dominance over various competing spheres of interest around the world, et cetera, et

00:38:56.740 cetera.

00:38:57.080 And they don't seem to ever price in cost.

00:38:59.920 Anytime you talk to one of these people, they'll say, oh, well, we're degrading the

00:39:03.400 Russian military in Ukraine and, and for, for pennies on the dollar.

00:39:07.180 And you say, well, what about all those graves in, in Kiev that are being built right now?

00:39:12.040 They're being dug.

00:39:12.760 What about all those, those blue and gold flags and the moms that don't, they're not going 1.00

00:39:16.280 to see their sons coming home because they died off in some trench somewhere in a place

00:39:20.120 that no, by the way, no American has ever even heard of, but that's pennies on the, like,

00:39:24.580 what kind of, what kind of topic, like what kind of, I'm sorry, but what kind of morality

00:39:29.060 is that?

00:39:29.980 What could this, it's not Christian morality.

00:39:31.560 I don't know what that is.

00:39:33.440 No, it's, uh, the, the morality, when he said Hegelian, Hegel was famous for having said

00:39:38.140 history uses people and then discards them.

00:39:40.700 His philosophy is one of the historical prag protagonist who, who launches into conquest of

00:39:46.180 destiny that, you know, lots of people die in the process, but history lurches a little

00:39:50.340 bit toward, you know, it's, it's desired endpoint.

00:39:53.980 The, the, the arc of history bends toward justice is another phrasing of that, which is

00:39:57.920 controversial to put it there.

00:39:59.080 But the fact is that, uh, the idea is that they think that they're bending history to a

00:40:03.600 desired endpoint and they do so through these mass casualty events through conflict in particular

00:40:09.700 so that history can lurch along behind historical protagonist who, who's causing it to go where it needs

00:40:15.760 to go.

00:40:16.500 It turns out that everybody involved, the cannon fodder is just a sacrifice to the progress of

00:40:21.040 the march of history and, you know, bless them for it.

00:40:23.800 If they're on the right side and curse them forever, if they're enemies of the people who

00:40:26.760 are on the wrong side of history, that's the mentality that we're actually up against.

00:40:30.580 It has nothing to do with liberty, has everything to do with creating circumstances to generate

00:40:35.220 conflict, to move situations toward the desired endpoint.

00:40:39.260 Problem, reaction, solution is the usual cute phrasing of it, but it's very important to

00:40:43.740 realize that this plays out on every stage, on every level, like the ones we're just now

00:40:47.680 describing in the global stage.

00:40:49.940 Yeah, it really is amazing because once you see, once you see that pattern that you just

00:40:54.680 outlined right there, you can, you can turn on the news and it's like that scene in the

00:40:58.140 matrix, man, where he's like, he's like, I don't even see the code anymore.

00:41:01.200 All I see blonde brunette, red, you just see it play out over and over and over. 0.99

00:41:05.720 Uh, Dr. James Lindsay, can we hold you for one more segment?

00:41:07.880 Are you good?

00:41:08.260 You got to run?

00:41:09.100 Yep.

00:41:09.640 Yep.

00:41:09.880 We can do it.

00:41:11.040 Let's do it.

00:41:11.680 All right.

00:41:11.940 We got him, folks.

00:41:12.680 We got him.

00:41:13.120 He's locked in with us.

00:41:14.360 Dr. James Lindsay, go give him a follow.

00:41:16.560 Conceptual James, new discourses.

00:41:18.760 Go check him out.

00:41:19.640 You know him.

00:41:20.160 I know him.

00:41:20.880 Your mother knows him.

00:41:21.720 We all love Dr. James Lindsay.

00:41:23.380 We're happy that he's generous here with his time.

00:41:27.380 When I'm working long hours, I'm always listening to Human Events with Jack Posobiec.

00:41:32.840 All right, Jack Posobiec back here, live Human Events Daily.

00:41:35.660 We are now looking at the questions of, we understand the situation.

00:41:42.320 We've got a radicalized youth movement here at home.

00:41:46.620 They're radicalized to target whoever they are told the oppressors are, which by the way,

00:41:51.000 in this situation is probably everyone listening to this show.

00:41:54.680 Congrats.

00:41:55.280 And certainly those of us that are on.

00:41:59.400 Then on the world stage, you see people using these same tactics to foment war, to foment conflict,

00:42:07.020 to seek political power.

00:42:09.520 Look at Nikki Haley. 0.80

00:42:10.520 She will declare war on anyone in the world if she thinks it will give her more power. 1.00

00:42:16.020 She wants a department of offense to come back so that she can pick and choose different 1.00

00:42:20.840 parts of the world that she wants to declare war on.

00:42:23.680 And, you know, to hell with the causes.

00:42:25.780 Who cares?

00:42:26.400 Who cares who it affects?

00:42:27.340 Who cares about the blowback?

00:42:28.660 Who cares about the Americans that will die in these situations?

00:42:31.840 Because she wants power. 1.00

00:42:33.380 She wants more money for Boeing.

00:42:35.440 Dr. James Lindsay, what is the way out?

00:42:38.220 What is the way out of these situations?

00:42:39.740 Because the circumstances are dire.

00:42:42.000 Look, Owen Sawyer is going to jail right now.

00:42:44.520 He's on his way to federal prison.

00:42:47.140 That is an honest to God, real person going to jail for political speech here in the United

00:42:52.900 States.

00:42:53.280 And people say, oh, well, you know, he protested at a congressional hearing and then walked around

00:42:59.620 on the law. 0.97

00:43:00.220 I said, this is ridiculous.

00:43:01.560 It's ridiculous what they're doing to Owen and, you know, defendowen.com. 0.54

00:43:05.860 And of course, people go there and we've got it trending nationwide.

00:43:09.800 You predicted that all this would come to pass.

00:43:12.060 You did.

00:43:12.280 And even when taking the slings and arrows of outrageous fortune from so many people coming

00:43:20.600 at you.

00:43:21.140 So what's next?

00:43:22.100 How do we get out of this situation and back to something that's more stable for Americans,

00:43:26.940 for kids trying to grow up and people just wanting to go back to their lives?

00:43:31.780 Yeah, well, there are two primary situations that we're kind of dealing with and they have

00:43:35.440 different to some degree, different solution sets for what to do.

00:43:39.260 The one is the propaganda environment, the bigger global stage, the stuff that's happening

00:43:43.160 where you don't live.

00:43:44.640 And what do you do with that is the propaganda falls apart when you can call it out, identify

00:43:50.520 what its targets are and identify that it's propaganda.

00:43:53.980 When you can name the dynamic in play, name that it's propaganda, explain how it works and

00:43:58.240 explain what it's trying to achieve.

00:43:59.660 What that does is it craters the trust necessary for people to take action on the propaganda.

00:44:04.580 They begin to doubt.

00:44:05.740 They become skeptical.

00:44:06.860 They become hesitant.

00:44:07.680 They become judicious and discerning.

00:44:10.160 And they don't act on the propaganda because the point of the propaganda is to get people

00:44:14.300 to act one way or another.

00:44:15.600 It's political warfare.

00:44:16.820 The goal is to use political means to get people to do things with hostile intent, not

00:44:23.200 necessarily pulling out a gun.

00:44:24.560 So what we have to do is learn to spot and call out propaganda as clearly and as widely

00:44:30.080 and as frequently as possible, whether that's through our own platform, such as shows like

00:44:34.020 this, such as our social media accounts, or whether it's in one-on-one conversations.

00:44:37.680 And that segues into what do you do with this radicalized youth movement and the kind of broader

00:44:41.580 radicalized culture that we have that will turn on and attack people is that those people

00:44:46.540 have to see where they've been duped or lied to.

00:44:49.660 There has to be a crack.

00:44:50.560 The worldview that they are, if I might be so bold, is hermetically sealed.

00:44:54.740 And there has to be a crack that opens up or something doesn't make sense.

00:44:57.560 Like, wait, what's going on?

00:44:59.060 They're all attacking Jews all of a sudden, or it's going against something I believe in,

00:45:03.420 or it's hurt somebody like me or that I care about.

00:45:06.100 You've got to find one of these cracks, one of the contradictions, as you might say, to

00:45:10.780 create an opening.

00:45:11.960 And then what you need to be is you need to be somebody they know that they can trust,

00:45:15.460 that they can go to.

00:45:16.360 In other words, you're a landing pad who can then kind of help them understand.

00:45:20.520 As a lot of people know, it's a shameful article of my past.

00:45:23.740 I had the Trump derangement syndrome, and somebody showed me that the very fine people thing was,

00:45:28.180 in fact, a hoax.

00:45:29.380 I learned that I was lied to, and then all of a sudden, it was a crack.

00:45:33.080 I was able now to step out of the psyops of Trump derangement and was able to start

00:45:38.060 to see the world more clearly.

00:45:39.660 And I wanted to know what else I'd been lied to.

00:45:41.460 And luckily, the people who helped me see that had some more evidence for me and finally

00:45:46.280 encouraged me to go do my own study into Trump's speeches and so on.

00:45:49.940 The same model works on an individual level.

00:45:52.340 The family members, the friends that you know in your life, you need to help them find where

00:45:57.560 this doesn't work, where it doesn't line up, where there's lies and distortions driving

00:46:01.620 their beliefs and worldview.

00:46:03.160 And then make sure that they understand you're a safe landing pad they can come to to try to

00:46:07.660 unravel where they've been bound up.

00:46:10.000 That's part of the reason they've been so diligent at tearing apart families and friends

00:46:14.480 so that those relationships are damaged or not there anymore for when people start to

00:46:19.000 have doubts about the broader worldview, the people around them are no longer available

00:46:23.820 to go to.

00:46:24.540 So you want to foster that and be that for those people.

00:46:28.440 You know, I call it long TDS, and we're trying to find the solutions, the cures.

00:46:35.020 There's no vaccine, thankfully.

00:46:36.340 Uh, but we do need to find ways to be able to do that.

00:46:40.160 And, you know, for a lot of people, they'll say, oh, well, just comply, just comply, just

00:46:44.860 say, you know what?

00:46:45.680 It's, you know, go through the struggle session, go through it.

00:46:48.380 You know what?

00:46:48.680 It's just easier that way.

00:46:49.780 It's just easier.

00:46:50.340 Right.

00:46:50.580 But that's kind of what they want, isn't it?

00:46:53.020 Yeah, you can't do that.

00:46:55.540 There's no coming back from a struggle session.

00:46:57.340 Once you comply, once you confess to imaginary crimes, you lose standing in every regard.

00:47:01.940 The people who are counting on you or who are in your corner, who are hoping you wouldn't

00:47:05.940 do that, see you as faithless.

00:47:08.040 The people who are interrogating you in the first place, uh, see you as somebody they

00:47:12.820 can manipulate.

00:47:13.360 And the people who are in this kind of third party watching audience, uh, become convinced

00:47:17.960 that you must have actually been guilty or you wouldn't have given in and confessed to

00:47:21.140 it and so that the terms of the crime must also have been legitimate and they become

00:47:24.900 convinced into the contrived world of the tyrant.

00:47:28.900 And so you have to stand strong against it.

00:47:30.920 You have to stand strong with people who are being put through it.

00:47:33.320 You have to be willing to say, no, I know her.

00:47:35.180 She's a good person.

00:47:36.080 And I stand behind her as a person, even under terrible circumstances.

00:47:39.680 And we've got to rebuild that unity because the goal of the struggle session compliance is

00:47:44.720 to get you to comply, to confess to a made up crime on contrived terms.

00:47:48.200 And once you do it, like I said, all that happens is you lose in every direction and

00:47:53.220 it only gets worse from there.

00:47:54.840 It doesn't get better with any of the groups of people that you might try to count on people

00:47:59.300 who are in your corner, see you as faithless.

00:48:01.500 Again, the people watching see the contrived terms is real.

00:48:04.480 And the people who manipulated in the first place know they can break you again and break

00:48:08.080 you again and break you again until you are completely in their hands.

00:48:11.700 So that's the answer then, folks.

00:48:15.080 Do not break.

00:48:17.720 Be that solid point in the storm and tumultuous times.

00:48:23.300 Dr. James Lindsay, where can people go to follow you and to get more of your ramblings

00:48:29.480 and scribblings?

00:48:31.220 Let me just add real quick and then I'll say that.

00:48:33.180 I know we're on a time, but you've got to stand with each other.

00:48:36.900 You have to stand with each other or none of it works.

00:48:39.520 Where I am doesn't matter compared to that.

00:48:40.940 You have to get people's back and help them when they're going through a struggle session.

00:48:45.420 It's not just don't break.

00:48:46.640 It's help your friends who they're going after as well.

00:48:49.040 You must do this.

00:48:50.400 Now, you can find me at newdiscourses.com and at ConceptualJames on social media.

00:48:56.520 Appreciate it, man.

00:48:56.940 Really appreciate all of your work.

00:48:58.940 You've been one of those rocks, one of those stable points in tumultuous times.

00:49:04.780 That's Dr. James Lindsay.

00:49:06.140 Make sure to go give him a follow.

00:49:07.820 And folks, do not submit to the struggle sessions.

00:49:12.680 Do not recant.

00:49:14.020 We know that we have truth on our side.

00:49:16.420 We have God on our side.

00:49:17.880 And let's pray again.

00:49:19.660 Remember, his name is Owen Schroyer.

00:49:23.020 His name is Owen Schroyer.

00:49:25.000 We have God on our side.

00:49:37.260 His name is Owen Schroyer.

00:49:38.760 It's Owen Schroyer.

00:49:39.560 His name is Owen Schroyer.

00:49:41.460 He told me thatإ meek he said it very好.

00:49:43.160 It's around 10 minutes.

00:49:43.980 He told me that they are in the zone.

00:49:44.720 He told me but now it's by one side.

00:49:45.540 So, do not afraid.

00:49:46.620 Please don't forget about it.

00:49:47.000 He told me to share an opinion.

00:49:47.060 He told me what you like.

00:49:48.280 And how did that happen?

Human Events Daily with Jack Posobiec - October 24, 2023

EPISODE 589： HIS NAME IS OWEN SHROYER

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