EPISODE 591： ITS TIME FOR CENTRISTS TO GET OFF THE FENCE
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A mass shooting and mass casualty event in Maine, a judge fines Donald Trump $5,000 for falsely pulling a fire alarm at a congressional office building, a group of Jewish students say they were locked inside the library during a pro-Palestine rally, and more.
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A commentator, international social media sensation, and former Navy intelligence veteran.
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This is Human Events with your host, Jack Posobiec.
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Mass shooting and mass casualty event in Maine.
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Maine officials say it was just before 7 p.m. local time when the gunmen first opened fire.
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Lewiston police releasing this photo of 40-year-old Robert Carr describing him as a person of interest.
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With a new speaker in charge, conservative Republican Mike Johnson was elected yesterday,
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ending a three-week struggle to replace Kevin McCarthy.
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Congressman Jamal Bowman turning himself in moments ago.
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The lawmaker from New York is expected to plead guilty after being charged with falsely
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pulling the fire alarm at a congressional office building.
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The judge in Donald Trump's civil fraud trial in New York is fining the former president
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$5,000 for violating his order not to threaten anyone tied to the case.
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And the judge warned future offenses could land Trump in jail.
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Russia says these missile launches are part of a successful rehearsal for a massive retaliatory
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That's how Defense Minister Sergei Shoigu characterized it to President Vladimir Putin in footage aired
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I think these kids at the colleges have s**t for brains.
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Tense moments playing out at Cooper Union during a pro-Palestinian rally yesterday.
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A group of Jewish students say they were locked inside the library after students involved in
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the demonstrations ran into the building chanting, Free Palestine, while banging on the doors
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Under the Trump administration, we will revoke the student visas of radical anti-American
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and anti-Semitic foreigners at our colleges and universities.
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Ladies and gentlemen, welcome aboard today's edition of Human Events Daily with Jack Posobiec
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As the leftist reaction to Israel has become ever more openly unhinged, bloodthirsty, in some
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cases genocidal, a welcome response is beginning to emerge among figures associated with the so-called
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That response is typified by a quote from the journalist Barry Weiss, who is, by the way,
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Barry Weiss said, as a Democrat who has been left homeless, who is now increasingly in the
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center, but probably leaning increasingly right, I am left again with the appreciation, despite the
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messenger of the message of the Trump administration, because what those guys did was pretty incredible
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Weiss continued, so much of the work that happened in that administration turns out to have been
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We didn't like the messenger, so we killed the message.
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Issuing long-term debt to refinance when interest rates were at zero.
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We didn't like the messenger, so we killed the message.
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We didn't like the messenger, so we killed the message.
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And finally, she asked, when are we going to stop shooting ourselves in the foot, and when are we going
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to see and take the time to look past who is saying these things and actually listen to them
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Realizing that you have a problem is the first step to recovery, but it's not the only step.
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There's another more important one, which is to actually endorse what you should have been
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So if you want to actually solve any of these problems, it's time to endorse Donald Trump himself.
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Say you're going to vote for him, because guess what?
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He's the only viable candidate who has the message that you seem to newly appreciate so
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Unless Barry Weiss and those like her are willing to take that step, then I fear that their
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lamentations are as meaningful as those of addicts coming down off their last high, and
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yet who are still utterly immune to the temptations of rehab.
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Put seriously, if you want us to take you seriously, IDW, and I want to, I do, it's time to get
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Just say the words, Trump 2024, for all of our sake.
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It's not just Barry Weiss, her fellows, Joe Rogan, Elon Musk, Bill Maher, to name a few.
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Unlike the woke, who are fine of subjecting every potential ally to humiliation for any
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ideological indiscretion, no matter how far in the past, those of us who have supported
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Trump from the beginning are far more forgiving.
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Contrary to what they might have heard about us being a simple-minded cult who won't accept
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them into our ranks unless you sleep with the full 2016 and 2020 platforms under your
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pillows, your MyPillows, there's actually quite a lot of healthy disagreement in the debate.
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But first, all you have to say is that the modern-day progressive left is an existential threat.
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And secondly, you have to publicly say, I will vote for Donald Trump for president.
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Mike Lindell joins us next here at Human Events Day.
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Very excited to bring now, I believe for the first time live on the show, Mike Lindell,
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What are you seeing in terms of data for the business?
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We're being defunded, debanked, our merchant server.
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They've come after MyPillow so many ways because they want me silenced about fixing our election
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It's been, for the last four or five months, I mean, they've turned up the heat on us.
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And they want to make my home employees that work from home, they want them.
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The IRS went after them, said, we don't want you working on commission from home.
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And then they've attacked our American Express.
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I believe it's whatever they can do to destroy MyPillow.
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Everybody buying our great products, even with this economy.
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One of the things, Jack, we got a little bit of advantage.
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The products we sell at MyPillow actually are needed products.
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You know, when you talk about pillows that help you get great sleep and beds and things
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It's not, you know, necessarily something you would want or just that you wouldn't need.
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So we've had that advantage because we've made it through, you know, many, many different
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things, you know, from the China virus back then and to other attacks.
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Remember, in January of 21, everybody, we were attacked.
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We were at box stores all left us and the shopping channels.
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And we were just talking about this earlier today.
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Hey, everyone's got to realize when MyPillow was, when all the box stores left, we were
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Every box store from Walmart to Costco to Kohl's to Bed Bathroom Beyond to QVC to HSN.
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So it's not like they were canceling it because the pillow wasn't selling.
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We've sold over 80 million MyPillows since it was invented, since I invented it in 2004,
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So it's, but, you know, it's a shame that, you know, the stuff we've made, that we're
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making, that we manufacture ourselves, like the MyPillow 2.0.
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You got your mattress toppers, MyPillow 2.0 mattress toppers now 100% made in the USA.
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I went through every part of the, about what you would put in a bed and say, how is this
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And so all these products we make in the USA and then to have, then to be attacked for
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This is the inside of our, one end of our factory there.
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And, and we're doing, we're doing great sales, by the way.
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You know, Jack, you're, if you use the promo code POZO, everybody, you can go to MyPillow.com,
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scroll down to the radio podcast specials and go in there and you're going to get slippers
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You're going to get towels for $29.98, the six piece towel sets.
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You're going to get, we have a special out today with the Giza Dream Sheets.
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I just added that before coming on the show here, everybody.
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This is the time you can buy when they, remember they're $139.98 on sale for $89.98.
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Now here for the audience out there right now, $59.98 for the queen size.
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So this is, it's very, it's very exciting that people are responding.
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And even, and I know that, you know, a lot of them can't afford it right now with the
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economy the way it is, but we don't have any middlemen, Jack.
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So there's no middlemen between us anymore where we're going right to the consumer.
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So if you see something to sell for $60, they take $30 of that.
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So we're, you know, so I've had to ship my marketing plan so we can go right to the consumer,
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Everyone says, Mike, what are you going out of business?
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And I do want to keep our volume up to keep all my employees employed.
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You know, you know, I have a, we have careers at my pillow, not just jobs.
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And we, once you're at my pillow, you know, we, the pay is great.
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So it's a, you know, when these, like when these machine companies all came in and sued
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my pillow for billions of dollars, these guys, you know, this is what they live on too,
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that their wages and their stock checks, and then they get sued for because their CEO wants
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to help secure our elections and save our country.
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But we, you know, we're getting through and I have two parallel tracks going right now.
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One is, you know, I'm over here with the plan to secure our elections.
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And you can all check that out at LyndalePlan.com.
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If you all check that out, this, this here, we've got the, if you get the Frank Social app,
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Now, you can see what's going on in your own area.
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I have devices now that are going to, it's all over the news.
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Mike Lindale is going to come or make his devices illegal in Kentucky.
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We've had lawyers and everything was developed over a year ago.
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We're just going to tell you, tell these officials that reached out to me and said,
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hey, we'd like something because the machine companies say none of the machines are on the internet.
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And these machines or these devices will say if they're lying or not.
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And all it does is say, it's like if you have on your phone,
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which shows the different networks available, Wi-Fi networks available,
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which doesn't mean the machines necessarily are on this because on Wi-Fi,
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What this does, if you had your own Wi-Fi network with a password,
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it would tell you if other devices have hacked, or I mean,
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are hooked up to the network and that they are using it.
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I was going to say, all the way back in 2016, I was running a thing.
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And then you come out and you say, can I ask you some questions?
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And it was the same way the Associated Press and Reuters and everybody does these things.
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And we were going to have volunteers go and do this.
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And at one point, we had a circuit court block us in five states on Election Day.
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They said that we were planning on intimidating voters.
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And that's why we couldn't be there volunteering for this.
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I just told you after they vote, we are going to do an opinion poll.
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Because we wanted, the thought at the time, we wanted to fact check AP and Reuters.
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And they said they were coming after us under the KKK Act of the 1800s and saying that we were intimidating voters.
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They said, how could you intimidate a voter after they've already voted?
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I said, I'm not going to talk to anybody until after they have information then.
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It's funny you say that because here's Kentucky.
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When I announced these devices at my summit in August, that's for the attacks.
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But here's Kentucky saying, well, we're not going to allow these devices in.
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But, Jack, I went around the media because the media was going, you know, Mike Lindell is going to have people come walking in.
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And you can get them in your pockets and you can hide the devices.
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This is not what we're doing at all, everybody.
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We have clerks from around the country that are in charge of their elections.
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These are the election clerks that are responsible for the election.
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And the machine companies have lied to them and said, our machines aren't online.
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So they've reached out to us and say, hey, can I get a device that will show me if these fire up and go online?
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Now, and it'll be funny when their reports come out.
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We have a quick, we've got a quick break coming up.
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Hold that because I want to make sure that we finish your thought there so people could actually understand what this process is.
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They're going to accuse, they're going to accuse Mike of the same thing.
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All because we want to understand what's going on in our elections on Election Day.
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Because it's all about health, wellness, lifestyle.
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The main thing that he keeps bringing everybody back to, believe it or not, is a good night's sleep.
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He talks about this constantly, about how it's so important for all, whether you're trying to do muscle growth, if you're, you know, if you're lifting, if you're working out, if you want endurance, if you want just to have a better energy set for the day.
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Because the average person, the average American these days, four hours, five hours, six hours, especially like I got little kids.
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But the better quality sleep you can have, that will give you better energy and actually better health for your life.
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And I said, well, you know who's been saying that all along?
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And now Mike is trying to come in and actually see if we can do anything.
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After he improved our sleep, he's trying to improve our elections.
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And wouldn't you know they're trying to stop him from doing that, too.
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And, you know, I can kind of follow through and tell everybody this plan we have.
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You know, we've been around over the last two and a half years.
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My group, I have like 300,000 people in the cause of America.
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And we've been around to all the counties over the last two and a half years.
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We found out that there's people that voted in the county, every county that do not live there.
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Their names were pulled from the voter rolls by computers.
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And many of them have committed now to go to paper ballots hand counted.
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But a lot of them had pushback saying, well, our machines aren't online.
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And it'll take too long to do a paper ballot hand counted.
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So what we're doing with the plan, everybody, they know we're giving them these devices for free.
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So they're the ones that have asked for it across all 50 states for this upcoming November 7th election.
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And when these devices or when these machines go online, whether it's a polling book, whether it's a router, whatever it goes online, the computer, the printer, beep, beep, beep.
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And by the way, all of you at home can get the Frank Social app.
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And there, it's like you're going to watch everything unfold in real time.
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It's like a real-time election app and real-time crime stream, I call it, real-time election crime.
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Now, you can put in your area and see what's going on in your area because you're going to get all these anomalies reported to you.
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And you're going to sit in your easy chair and go, wow, okay, so we're going to educate everybody and inform everybody what's really going on this fall in a couple weeks now.
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Well, what it's going to do is after this fall's election, we're going to return to all those counties in the whole country, and we're going to go to them and say, in light of the – now you know these machines are cooked up to the Internet.
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And we want – we, as the people, want to get to go to paper ballots hand-counted.
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And now those clerks are going to ask questions like, well, is it going to take too long?
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We did a hand-counted paper ballot system that we developed in Osage County, Missouri, earlier this year.
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And Democrats and Republicans worked together, and it was done about the same time as the machines with 100% accuracy.
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Well, it's better than U.K., Netherlands, France, and Germany.
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This hand-counted paper ballot system is even better than theirs.
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And then if they say, well, it's going to cost so much, no, it's 10 times cheaper for your county.
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So what this becomes, Jack, is basically a sale – it enhances our sales pitch after this election because we're going to have proof of concept with everything.
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We're going to catch them in their lies if they say their machines are not online.
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And one of the biggest things, too, everybody, is if we got so much pushback from the uniparty Republicans over the last two and a half years, they've been my biggest blockers, bar none.
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Your Rassenburgers, your Robin Vosses of Wisconsin, and blockers that block us at every level to get to secure our elections.
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Well, that all changed in August when the RNC did a resolution, put out a resolution for paper ballots, hand-counted, same-day voting, precinct level, and signature required, everybody.
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So now when a Republican says to us, well, I really like the machines.
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I want to keep them, and I don't want to do paper ballots stuff.
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Even the Democrats want to secure the elections.
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The ones that don't want secure elections are the uniparty and the deep state that's taken over our country, and we have to save our country and secure our elections.
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And I believe that this plan will do that, and we've got the resources, the people, everything.
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We've got everything going on, so it's looking good.
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Mike, what do you think of the, so we have, obviously, just because you mentioned the uniparty, you mentioned D.C.
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That's one of the big three states this fall that the governor's race there, Louisiana, Kentucky, and Mississippi we're going to head into.
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But I've talked to, I have so many connections to Louisiana, and everybody really likes him.
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And I don't think I could have turned out better, everybody.
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I really think that this is like a mini miracle, and this is well on our way.
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We're going to look back and see all these things had to unfold just the way they did, and also on God's timing, not our timing.
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It's one of the, I think we'll look back, and this will be one of the biggest wins leading up to the future elections.
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Oh, that's huge, because, I mean, and I went back and looked, and I said there was some stuff.
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He had some BLM comments that I wasn't so sure about.
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But then when I looked on Johnson's record when it came to the election, he was right there on January 6, 2021, and was one of the people that raised his hand.
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And when they brought it up again, what did they tell him?
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You know, that's how we test politicians nowadays.
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I went around and said, do you think there's any problems with our election platforms?
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And if they say, no, there's no problems, you're out, because everybody knows there's problems.
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72% of the people in the United States don't trust our elections right now.
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And this guy, you know, he'll be well on the way to, we'll be able to finally have another place, I think, to bring all the evidence that we do have on secure elections and be able to bring it now maybe to Congress.
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Wouldn't that be a change instead of being blocked by Republicans?
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For two decades, Democrats wanted the machines and computers out of our elections, and the Republicans blocked it and blocked it.
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This is one of the biggest things that has surprised me over the last two and a half years is how much we get blocked by what I consider my party, but I found out it's more of a unit party.
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Now we have people in there, like this guy that's in now, Speaker of the House, you guys, what's going to happen is you have all these, I call them the cowards of the Republicans that didn't want to speak up and didn't want to, I think they're going to start speaking up now.
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I really do, that they have, that right from the top, you're going to have somebody wanting to make change and good change.
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So, because, you know, Mike, what you should have done, by the way, what you should have done is just go to the Democrats and say, hey, I'm worried that Russia is hacking our elections.
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We can't let Russia and Putin get into the machines, right, guys?
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That's why we have to disconnect them so the Russians, that's all you got to say.
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Then suddenly the Democrats will go, wait a minute, hey, because that's what they all said.
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That's what Kamala Harris and there was the whole Kill Chain documentary that HBO had to drop because they all said it.
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Yeah, Amy Klobuchar, my own senator from Minnesota, all the Democrats for two decades, they've been saying, hey, you know, you go back to 16 and everything on the movie Kill Chain.
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The movie Kill Chain, it was all the Democrats.
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We've got to, you know, you can hack into them.
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And, you know, I tell everybody, you know, our elections are deemed critical infrastructure, probably the most critical we have.
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If you don't have an election, if you end up with a selection, look what the manifestation of a stolen election is.
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We talk about our energy grid as being national security infrastructure.
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We talk about our highways, our transportation systems, our airports, all the security you have at an airport, of course.
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Why wouldn't an election system be also considered one of the highest national security pieces of infrastructure that we have in our country?
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And by the way, other countries do consider it that.
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And it just amazes me how for almost three years now, nobody wants to call them out and say, let's look and see what's inside these computers.
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Maybe these election deniers have something here, they call it, these election deniers.
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I had ABC call me yesterday, and they rarely call, and I did a 15-minute interview, and I said, you know, you guys can sit here and attack me all the time and say, well, Mike wants Donald Trump in so bad, he's willing to spend $60 million and lose everything he has because he wants him back in so bad.
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When I got that evidence back in 2021, early 2021, you know, this is hacked into our elections.
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So just if you can give us your final thought on that before we have to wrap up.
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She is the president of Knox Strategies, Erica Knight.
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She's got a new op-ed that's coming up on humanevents.com, which is honestly so important for us to get into right now.
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Tell us what you're writing on and tell us why it's so important.
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So I, you know, have really just been watching all of the chaos that's been happening this week.
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You know, we've had the speaker debacle, which I mean, I know you've tweeted about 500 times and we're in a war and all of that.
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And it's just very, very interesting because I wanted to really share and break it down from a communications perspective because our image right now is just absolutely terrible.
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And unfortunately, all of this chaos at home puts us just as the laughingstock of the world stage.
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And it's really sad and it's really embarrassing for us as a nation.
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That is the message that we're sending overseas.
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And that's something that we really need to pull it together and fix.
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And because there's and here's something that, you know, and I'm very critical of neoconservatives on this platform and all of my platforms.
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You mentioned I do have a little little bit of a habit on on social media.
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But when it comes to when it comes to neocons, what they will say is and you see this with neolives as well for like like Biden, they'll say we need to project strength abroad.
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And the only way they can perceive of projecting strength overbroad is by waging war with country after country after country.
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So picking a war with Russia and Ukraine, that's showing strength.
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Tablet Mag got a piece up yesterday talking about potential.
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You know, these these preemptive strikes on Tehran.
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Maybe we'll maybe we'll run into another ground invasion there.
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People talking about, oh, we need to go after China before they go after all of these things.
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But we used to have somebody in office from 2016 to 2020 who projected strength but was able to do so without starting wars.
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And that's actually something completely different, isn't it, Erica?
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I mean, we really need to take serious note that this never would have happened under President Trump and because he never would have let them get away with it.
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He knows what it means to hold our adversaries accountable.
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He knows what it means to send a direct and powerful message so they know not to mess with him.
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I mean, I if you want to break that down into very simple terms, you're you're a dad.
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What do they do when they want something or they're trying to get away with something?
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They will push you and they will push you and see what they can get away with.
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If you're on a conference call, what are they going to think?
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They smell weakness and they take advantage of it.
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They know or the best one is not just when you're in the middle of something, but when
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you're when you're kind of tired, when you're just don't want to deal with it, when they
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And it almost it almost is enough to make you go and say, all right, just just take it.
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Cause you want to stop, but that never happens with me, not with daddy that happens.
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Maybe, maybe with another parent in my household who shall remain nameless that happened, but
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not with daddy, because I'll have the two of them looking at me.
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The, another one wants a little dessert and they're daddy, daddy, daddy, daddy.
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I look at him and I say, boy, sounds like you guys got a problem.
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It sounds like you guys need to figure something out.
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And if they don't think that they can get away with it, they are not going to do it.
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And when our president is a cognitive wreck, that doesn't know that can't even walk up
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a staircase when our DOD's biggest job is fighting the weather, when the FBI knows about
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active shooters, yet they would rather prosecute moms in the PTA.
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The world knows they smell our weakness and they're going to strike.
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I mean, president Trump would have had these leaders.
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He saw a leader, took a drone and blew his head off.
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And well, I always say he turned Soleimani into Pico de Gallo.
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And it's, it's, it's, this is what people don't understand.
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You can achieve peace deals like the Abraham Accords.
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You can, you can get anyone to sit down and write a piece of paper.
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What's hard is actually maintaining the peace and maintaining that level of trust.
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This is what Trump was able to do through his actions.
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I call it peace through savagery where it's, it's, it's very simple, right?
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Number one, you are constantly threatening everyone all the time about everything.
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Number two, you occasionally assassinate somebody.
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So occasional assassinations, and then number three, frequent peace deals.
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The Abraham Accords never would have worked had he not conducted those military operations,
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You had other, other operations, you know, basically just wiping out all of ISIS completely
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and then go ahead and then going around the Middle East saying, do you want to be next
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I mean, it's the same thing with your children and, you know, you can threaten them and you
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And at some point you really, you got to break something and let them know you mean business.
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At some point you got to go and put them on timeout.
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And they have to know that, you know, you can make a threat and make a threat, but you,
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if they think that you're going to follow through, if they think you're going to blow
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I mean, these are, I mean, these are major terrorist leaders.
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And so, but if they sense the weakness and though they can get away with it, Joe Biden
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I mean, like I said, he can't even walk up a staircase and he did it too.
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I mean, you have to understand, like people are all up in arms about $6 billion being unfrozen.
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I mean, what about the, they're making their money on oil.
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I mean, President Trump had their net exports down to almost zero in that field.
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Like, where do you think we're getting our energy now that we're over here fighting the
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They're, they're getting the money and then Qatar because, and by the way, they're having
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outflows through this and you can put it all together and we're got about a minute left
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But the way it works is so, because this, this, this is what Biden has done.
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This has been Biden's administration's policies.
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They've reduced our ability to produce more here at home while consumption has risen.
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So we are still not a, at a net gain from where we were under Trump.
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Then isolating Russia from the oil and gas market around the world.
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Oh, it's benefited Iran because Iran, Qatar, these other countries, they're coming up and
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picking up the slack from the Russian oil and gas that was kicked out.
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Do, do, do we, do they think that we're not, that we're stupid, that we can't see that
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Iran is backfilling the oil through Azerbaijan.
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Those pipelines are going to the EU, Qatar with what, 12, 12 to 15% of the world's LNG
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that's backfilling the Russian orders to the European Union right now.
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And you said, oh, we don't want to deal with Putin anymore.
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We don't want to deal with Putin because that cheap gas, we don't like him because
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Because we didn't want to deal with Putin because we couldn't take that gas because
00:41:42.580
I'm always listening to Human Events with Jack Posobiec.
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All right, Jack Posobiec back here at Human Events Live.
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We're discussing the situation on how to deal with terrorism, how to deal with people
00:41:55.300
who are essentially forcing their will on you, whether it be geopolitics, whether it
00:42:01.140
be terrorism, or whether it be parenting, because it is how you deal with your children,
00:42:06.740
whether you give them incentives, if you compromise, if you negotiate, they will win.
00:42:13.660
But Erica, so we started the show with this huge piece that the editorial board at humanevents.com
00:42:20.000
put up where it says, it's time for centrist to get off the fence and help us build the
00:42:25.840
And what it means, a little bit tongue in cheek, but what it means there is to say, it's
00:42:30.000
all well and good that you guys have sort of turned the corner on Biden.
00:42:34.380
And in many cases, also admitting that Trump was right on the vast majority of his policies
00:42:42.660
But you killed the messenger despite the message, to use Barry Weiss's words.
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Erica, when it comes to these types of situations, I say, okay, good.
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Because if you're just criticizing Biden, but not actually getting in the fight and saying,
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I'm going to vote for Trump and saying that publicly, is it really changing anything?
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One, this is what the Democrats are very, very good at.
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They pick their leader and they rally behind them.
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I mean, I can't even imagine the fact that you have this many people that look at the
00:43:20.320
degenerate disaster of a president and are willing to support him and are willing to
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support his run, but that's who they have decided that their leader is.
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And they, come hell or high water, are going to get behind him and support him.
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And I mean, we can't even, obviously, it's become very, very clear.
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Every poll, every debate, every, you know, fundraising.
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President Trump is the leader of the Republican Party.
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And we need everybody around us to, I mean, cut it out and get behind him.
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Because all we're doing right now is wasting time and, you know, continuing to let the
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Like, there's no point in having another debate.
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There's no point in continuing any of this charade.
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And we need to start fighting the rest of the world.
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Do you think that these candidates, we saw one candidate, Perry Johnson, dropped out
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What do you think some of these other candidates are doing when it comes to this?
00:44:30.540
It doesn't seem to me like any of the non-Trump candidates have a path to victory at this point.
00:44:38.700
But you can't consolidate when there's less than 50%.
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So you're still going to lose, even if it's just one-on-one.
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And also, that's not how elections work anyway.
00:44:49.200
So what do you really think is driving so much of this?
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I mean, one thing that you've got to take into consideration is that there's a lot of
00:45:03.260
There are so many different organizations that most people don't even pay attention to
00:45:08.400
and that you really wouldn't unless you see the ins and outs of a campaign.
00:45:12.220
But there are a lot of people that continue to make a lot of money.
00:45:15.020
The more money these people spend running, the more money they make.
00:45:18.120
And I mean, truthfully, that's what I think it is about.
00:45:20.700
I mean, obviously, there's another tier of that where you have, you know, most of these
00:45:24.980
people call the debates like the race to second place.
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I mean, I'd love to hear your opinion on if you think President Trump will even consider
00:45:32.780
running with any of these people, but I mean, I think it's money and I think that a lot
00:45:37.960
of people are greedy and I think and I hope that at some point that we'll realize, cut
00:45:43.660
I mean, I saw a couple of weeks ago, there was somebody that took their PAC.
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They had a whole PAC for DeSantis and they cut it off and put it towards President Trump.
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He was a guy who had worked for Reagan, also worked for Ross Perot in the past.
00:45:59.180
He was he was actually the guy that ran the original draft.
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I think it was draft Ron is what they called it.
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And he shut down the entire thing and said, no, it's this this is over.
00:46:12.580
And we've heard it, by the way, on the donor side as well when it comes to money.
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And we've had no fair share of guests on this program basically predicting this, that at
00:46:21.860
the end of the day, if you can't fund your campaign, if you haven't built out the amount
00:46:28.160
of support network that you need for people who are willing to write checks to you at
00:46:33.080
levels with which can sustain you through the primary, then you're not going to win.
00:46:38.060
That's that's just sort of the the underbelly of politics.
00:46:40.660
But President Trump has been able and has been able to maintain a massive list of small
00:46:58.800
This is the deplorables, the men and women who work very hard every single day to keep
00:47:06.160
And they are sick and tired of the games that are played in Washington and actually want
00:47:14.300
And by the way, someone and I'm just going to say it, someone who actually talks about
00:47:21.880
These other politicians, I'm telling you, it sounds like they think that they're representing
00:47:39.960
I mean, that's probably a whole other conversation.
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But yeah, I mean, look at like follow where they own stock.
00:47:50.460
Look, there's a lot of money to be made in war.
00:47:53.140
Most people in Congress and in the Senate leave much richer than when they go in.
00:48:03.280
Look, and we can see in so many of these cases, there's, there's, you know, unusual whales
00:48:07.300
on X is a great account to follow for all for tracking all of this on both sides, by the
00:48:12.580
way, because there will be people on, on both sides of the aisle, whether it be the Senate
00:48:16.700
or whether it be the house that suddenly they magically make all of these trades right before
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one of these wars kicks off as if, as if somehow they've got, I don't know, inside information
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I mean, I mean, not that they would conduct any insider trading or anything that that's
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I know Erica, this has been a fantastic interview.
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Where can people go to follow you and, uh, and remind people the name of that title, because
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I know we're going to get it up very quickly here at humanevents.com.
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Um, you can find me Erica Knight on truth social.
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That's probably the best place to, uh, to hear me sounding off.
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All right, Erica Knight, go read her column humanevents.com.
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We're trying to do everything we can, by the way, to get our columnists more airtime here
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