EPISODE 593： IT BEGINS - TRUMP MAY BE REMOVED FROM THE BALLOT IN COLORADO
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On today's episode of Human Events Daily, Jack Posobiec talks about a new lawsuit that seeks to remove Donald Trump from the 2020 Democratic primary field, and why Ron DeSantis and Nikki Haley should speak out against the effort to take Donald Trump off the ballot.
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us from evil. Ninety percent of the military budget of Hamas came from Iran. Without the
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foundation, there's no Hamas. People who are calling for a ceasefire now do not understand
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Hamas. We had never seen a month in our history of over 200,000 illegal border crossers, John.
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And under Joe Biden, we've seen it 16 times. Even people who are not in favor of Trump are
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realizing that under President Trump, we had a peaceful world. In just a couple short years,
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The goal of this lawsuit is to really remove Donald Trump's name from the primary presidential ballot
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here in Colorado because of his potential ties to the insurrection. So this group filed this lawsuit
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really argue that he is ineligible to run for the White House again under a rarely used clause in the
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U.S. Constitution aimed at candidates who have supported an insurrection. The complaint was filed
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on behalf of six Republican and unaffiliated Colorado voters by the group called Citizens for Responsibility
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and Ethics in Washington. Ladies and gentlemen, welcome aboard today's edition of Human Events
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Daily. Today is October 30th, 2023, Anno Domini. Well, folks, it's begun. You know, I tried to warn you,
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tried to warn you all about this. I said, and I've been saying it since what last year,
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the 14th amendment is coming. The 14th amendment that they're going to push down,
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that they are going to use to attempt to drop President Trump from the ballot. Colorado is
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state number one. I told you that when all means of soft power power were eliminated, only hard power
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would remain. And here we are Monday, October 30th, the push to take President Trump off the ballot.
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It's begun. They are attempting to do this to strip President Trump from his right to run for
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president. And now, of course, they'll say January 6th, they'll say, oh, we're all in it. You know,
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we're all in it together. It's all a conspiracy. It's all been set up. It's all been established to
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destroy Trump, to destroy all these people. But we know the truth. We all know the truth.
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This is the reason for the propaganda. This is the reason for the lies, the entire Jan 6 committee,
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the blood libel, the MAGA blood libel about Brian Sicknick. Them saying over and over and over that
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Brian Sicknick was murdered by Trump supporters. Brian Sicknick was murdered, but none of it was true.
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None of it was true. But no, we know the real reason. The real reason for this is simple.
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And I have a question. Why hasn't Ron DeSantis or Nikki Haley or any of these people spoken out
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against the effort to take Donald Trump off the ballot? Do they actually stand up for their
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beliefs? Do they actually stand up for their principles? Do they actually stand up for what
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they believe in or, or are they just going to go along with whatever the deep state wants?
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It's very interesting because I hear Ron DeSantis and Nikki Haley and others say, oh, I'm going to
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fight the bureaucracy. I'm going to fight them. I'm going to do, why aren't you doing anything now?
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You're benefiting from them right now. And you're not doing anything. You're not even saying anything.
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You barely said a word when he was indicted the first time in New York. Remember, it took him a
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full day to even respond. Yeah, I remember that. Poso remembers. And so the real question is the real
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question. We see what's going on here. We see what's going on. There's a reason
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that Ron DeSantis has dropped to essentially third place in Iowa. He's now tied with Nikki Haley.
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But we see what's really happening, folks. They don't care if the 2024 election
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is canceled. They will take away your ability to even vote for Donald Trump on the ballot.
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And they'll do so and say that it's in the name of democracy.
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Eric Swalwell's up there. They couldn't even find a congressman from Colorado to even represent this.
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Of course not. They could even find someone from Colorado. Why? It's simple. Because this is
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a communist takeover of the American election system. But I'll tell you what, they would not
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be doing this if they weren't terrified of you, if they weren't terrified of our voters,
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if they weren't terrified of the right wing rise and the right wing turn in this country.
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They can see it coming from every single angle. And guess what, folks?
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It ain't stopping. We are going to keep coming because this train has no brakes. You're never
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blackoutcoffee.com. Want to bring on now Mike Davis. Mike's from the article three project. Mike,
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you've been tracking this story all day. Tell us Mike, what are we seeing in terms of the latest
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in this? And then more importantly, where is this going? We know this is a bench trial at this point
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with this left wing judge. It looks to me as though it looks as to me that they may actually go forward
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and just rule just summarily rule that president Trump cannot appear on the ballot. Where are we going
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with this? Yeah, I'm in the Denver district court and we are experiencing the Democrats legal here in
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Pale Mary. They impeached President Trump for nonsense. They indicted him four times for non-crimes.
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They brought a civil fraud lawsuit against him to destroy his family business for the non-fraud of
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paying back sophisticated Wall Street banks in full with interest. And now we are dealing with a bogus
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legal theory held by the Democrats that President Trump somehow committed insurrection on January 6th and
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therefore under a post-civil war amendment to the Constitution, Section 3 of the 14th Amendment,
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President Trump is disqualified from running for office. So they're just going to take
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President Trump off the ballot in Colorado, a blue state, and then they're going to use that precedent
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in Colorado in swing states like maybe Michigan. And they're just going to say to the American people
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that even though you want to elect him according to current polling on November 5th, 2024, we're not
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So walk me through this. Then if let's say the court fines for essentially a crew in this,
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these, the Soros group, and by the way, it is George Soros group, the citizens for responsibility
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in ethics in Washington, the left-wing group, uh, they're suing under this. They're going under
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section three. Of course you are article three. They're going under section three of the 14th
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amendment. Uh, if, if they find for crew and essentially block Trump from the ballot, what
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are his avenues of legal recourse then? I'm, I'm having a hard time hearing you in this courthouse,
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Jack, but I think what you're saying is that where do we go if they rule against him?
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Okay. There you go. I can hear you there. Uh, what happens is this is an action by crew,
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a left-wing organization. They're in front of this, uh, this Democrat judge in Colorado. She
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just got appointed to the Denver district court, um, uh, this year, uh, the, uh, after the Democrat
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governor, governor Paulus announced her appointment effective in January. Um, she made a donation one
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week, one month later to a, uh, to a left-wing political action committee whose sole mission
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is to remove from office those who supported Trump on January 6th. This judge is clearly
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biased by making that donation. President Trump raised that issue this morning to recuse her,
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his lawyers did. And this judge said she didn't remember making that donation, but nonetheless,
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she could still be fair because that's not going to be a factor. Well, that's not the right legal
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standard. If you're a judge and there's a recusal motion, it's not subjectively what you think
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your, whether you're fair or not, it's objectively does the public think you can be fair, uh, based
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upon objective evidence and objectively, no one in their right mind thinks that this judge is going
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to be fair when she, uh, for, for Trump on a January 6th case, when she donated to a PAC,
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uh, to go after people who supported Trump for his actions on January 6th, she denied that motion.
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It is a reversible error, meaning when this gets to the Colorado court of appeals, if they actually
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do their job, they'll reverse because president Trump had a biased judge. I wouldn't count on that
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happening because Colorado has become such a deep blue state starting in 2006 when they went to all
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mail ballots and they legalized marijuana out here. And it became a dumping ground from all these weirdos
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from New York and California who fled New York and California because it was unlivable. And now
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they've made Colorado unlivable. So you have these Democrat judges on the court of appeals and Democrat
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judges on the Colorado Supreme courts who will, who will almost certainly vote against Trump. They'll
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affirm this biased Democrat judge in Denver. And then this may have to get resolved by the Supreme
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Court of the United States who had, they have discretionary review. They don't have to take the
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case, but I don't know how they can avoid this one. So, and, and again, and you heard of course,
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from the lawyer at the very beginning of all of this, that, uh, basically saying this is a Supreme
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court, excuse me, this is a 14th amendment case. He's obviously, uh, presiding his arguments that will
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come before the Supreme court, basically letting the judge know that your, you know, your actions in
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this case will face review at the highest court of the land. But walk us through the timeline on
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something like that. Is there a way that they can sort of, uh, jump the queue and go straight to
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the Supreme court and appeal it directly? Or do they have to go through, as you say,
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those various levels of the state courts, then, you know, presumably, uh, the, the federal court,
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federal appeals, et cetera, like that, what, what's the process?
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You go through the Colorado court system, the court of appeals, then the Colorado Supreme
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court, if they decide to take the case, if they don't decide to take the case,
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then it can go directly to the Supreme court. I think if you get a ruling against Trump
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and it looks very likely this Democrat judge is going to rule against Trump and take him off
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the Colorado ballots. I think the Supreme court, these, these, uh, appellate courts,
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including the Supreme court are going to have to expedite this because this has nationwide consequences.
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Other states could follow this precedent. And then we have this disaster of Democrats,
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uh, attorneys and Democrat judges and Democrat hell holes around the country,
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just taking Trump off the ballot and taking away that choice for the American people.
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And for people who are screaming about democracy, that's the most undemocratic thing imaginable.
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You want to, you want to indict your political opponent. You want to put him in jail for 700
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years. You want to bankrupt him. And if that doesn't work, if that actually makes him stronger,
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which is what has happened, then we're just going to take him off the ballot. So the people don't
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have the choice. That is, that is not how the constitution is intended with section three of
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the 14th amendment. Uh, that is un-American and the Supreme court, they're going to have to put on
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their big boy pants and they're going to have to, you know, with their lifetime tenure and their pay
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protection, they're going to actually have to do their jobs. And their job is to follow the law.
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And the law is very clear. If you want to remove someone or disqualify someone from the ballots
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based upon an insurrection or rebellion, you have to charge them under federal criminal law,
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getting unanimous jury verdicts, have the trial court judge convict him and have the federal appellate
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courts affirm or uphold that conviction. That's the only way you can disqualify under the 14th
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amendment to the constitution. And that has been the case law since 1870.
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Now, let me, let's, let's, I'm just playing a course, uh, devil's advocate here,
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and I'm definitely making a reference to the movie because we're, we're talking law. Um,
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if the Supreme court overturns this ruling, would that perhaps create precedent for the other states?
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If they try this again, that essentially it would overrule other efforts. So could there be actually
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a silver lining here that if this goes all the way up to the Supreme court gets overturned and they
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issue some kind of ruling saying that, uh, president Trump cannot be taken off the ballot
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over January 6th, because no, it does not qualify. Uh, would it put it perhaps have a chilling effect
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on other attempts to do this, as you say, in these other states?
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Well, you would hope that a, uh, a ruling for Trump by the Supreme court would send a very strong message
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to these Democrat operatives and these Democrat states and in these swing states that the American
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people, not Democrat lawyers and Democrat operatives and Democrat judges get to decide who's the president
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of the United States. But look, they went after president Trump constantly. They've gone after him
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constantly since he went down the golden escalator in Trump tower back before he ran the first time.
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This has been unrelenting how the Democrats have gone after him and they will do whatever it takes
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to beat him. And they fear that president Trump is going to beat Biden like a drum on November 5th,
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2024. So they're going to do whatever it takes to stop him.
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No, I think it's exactly right. And, and I wish, you know, that we would of course, uh,
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see that as precedent, but I, I think I tend to think you're right. These people are just going
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to keep trying and we'll use other novel theories. I do think we've only got about a minute left here
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in, uh, in the break. And I know you've got to run back, but I, I, I'd like to also point out that
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it's very interesting that if you notice, and it's something that you've, uh, done a lot of work on,
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Mike, that it says even in Cruz lawsuit, it doesn't actually contend that president Trump
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was behind January 6th. So even they know that at least in terms of the, the, what they call the
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assault on the Capitol. So even they know that they're on very shaky factual ground if they make
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that argument in court. Yeah. Well, I don't think that they care if I've, I've litigated against
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crew in Colorado for a long time. I was a real lawyer in Colorado for 10 years before I went
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back to DC to help Trump confirm his judges. And I'll tell you that this crew is a partisan
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left-wing organization. They don't really care about whether the, the, they have the, the evidence,
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they have the judge and that's all they need. They have a biased judge who's clearly going to rule
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in their favor. And the evidence doesn't matter when you have a biased judge.
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No, that's exactly right. Mike, where can people go? I know you're going to be throwing
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stuff all day to get your coordinates. I really appreciate it, Jack. It's
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too. And my personal is at M R D D M I A M R D D M I A. And thank you very much, Jack.
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Jack. These are influencers and they're friends of mine. Jack, you're so like, where's Jack?
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And in the state of Colorado, communism is on the rise. And no, I'm not just talking about the
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weed heads out there because they're definitely getting higher than Scott Stapp in the middle of
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a halftime show. No, we're talking about the communism that is sweeping through the court system.
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Julie Kelly joins us now. Julie, you were one of the very first people who warned that this day would
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come. Now we see Democrats attempting to strip Donald Trump from the ballot in the state of Colorado.
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How do you view this case? Where do you see it playing out?
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All right, let's try to get Julie back up, guys.
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Julie's out there. She's pounding the pavement. Look, folks, it's simple. They want this country
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to blow up. Does this seem like a movement, by the way? Does the left seem like they're
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comfortable? Do they seem like they're well adjusted? Do they seem like they think they're
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going to win? Do they actually think that Joe Biden got 81 million votes and he's going to be able to do
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so again? If Joe Biden really got 81 million votes, why would they be trying so hard to strip Trump off
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the ballot? If Joe Biden were really able to just beat Trump from the basement, holding scant rallies,
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scant, you know, what did you do? The drive-in rally the one time? I forget what that was.
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And that's how Trump lost? Really? Or was this perhaps the most stolen election in American
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history? All right, do we have Julie Kelly, guys? Julie? Yes. Julie, you were one of the first people
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to call this out, that the 14th Amendment would be used against President Trump. What is your sense
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of things? Do you really think they're going to go all the way through with this?
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I mean, I don't know. This will be an interesting test case about what is going to happen in these
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states. It's just astounding that you have, you know, former president and presidential,
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presumptive presidential candidate who has not been convicted of any crime, you know,
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certainly waiting for these trials to come early next year. But this jumping of the gun,
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we'll see what happens in this Colorado case and whether it's going to be successful or not. But
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this is just, you know, an indication of things to come. If Trump is indicted, certainly in the two
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federal criminal cases, with the January 6 case trial starting in March, if he is convicted,
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that will give momentum, to say the least, to Democrats for seeking this in every state.
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And I think you're right. So this is what we're just talking about with Mike Davis, because my worry,
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not my worry, my concern is that, like yours, that even if the Supreme Court overturns this,
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you're going to get to a situation where they're putting these up on the ballot, or excuse me,
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they're stripping him off the ballot in every one of these cases. And then it becomes a time
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situation, doesn't it? Because, you know, as he's fighting cases here, he's fighting cases there,
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this is really the, you know, we could call this the Gulliver strategy, where he's the, you know,
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the giant Gulliver goes to the island of the Lilliputians, and they can't, you know, they can't
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take him out with one blow, but they just fire little rocks and arrows and tie him up, you know,
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like the, like the, the AT-AT walkers in Star Wars, and, and they end up tripping him up. And that's
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really what they're attempting to do here. And so, Julie, if, if, if that's the case,
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right, why is it that I don't hear any other Republicans really saying anything about this,
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any of the contenders, they could do this to any number of Republicans who have said things
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about January 6th. Why is it that you don't hear DeSantis and Nikki Haley and these others speaking out?
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Well, I think that's exactly why, because they have attempted this for other
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lawmakers, including Marjorie Taylor Greene, I believe Andy Biggs in Arizona,
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using their involvement, their plans to object to the certification of the election on January 6th
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as reason to keep them valid. They successfully did this to Cuy Griffin, who was the New Mexico
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County Commissioner convicted, I believe, of one minor trespassing offense for January 6th,
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and they used that citing the 14th Amendment as evidence that he needed to vacate his elective
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office. So think of this timeline, Jack. The only case that really trial would be relevant is Trump's
00:25:26.060
January 6th, i.e., attempting to overturn the 2020 election trial, the four-count indictment by Jack Smith,
00:25:33.740
that is supposed to go to trial on March 4th. Let's say that trial lasts four to six weeks,
00:25:39.740
takes you to the mid, maybe end of April. Certainly a D.C. jury will come back with quick
00:25:46.300
guilty verdicts, and then it's usually two to three months after that where the defendant,
00:25:54.300
in this case would be Donald Trump, would be sentenced. You cannot appeal a conviction until you
00:26:00.860
are sentenced. So it's not like you can be convicted, found guilty, and then appeal. He has to wait. So this
00:26:07.660
would drag it out to what, July, August, where he'll, you know, if he's convicted of these four
00:26:13.740
counts, could face four, five, six years in prison, then has to wait to appeal after sentencing. This is
00:26:19.980
what DOJ, Jack Smith, and of course Judge Chudkin are well aware of this timetable, and how it will
00:26:27.260
directly conflict with the heat of the 2024 general election campaign against the man seeking to put
00:26:41.340
Julie, it's, it's, it's clear to me that they're trying to do everything they can to stop the patriot
00:26:47.340
movement in this country. But when I, when I look at these things, why is it that you think
00:26:52.540
then that more people, or do you think perhaps, maybe we are seeing in terms of independents that
00:26:57.260
are moving on these issues, do you think the average person when they're looking at this,
00:27:02.140
do they, do they see it for what it is, or do they think, oh, it's just Trump and he probably did
00:27:10.220
I mean, polls are showing increasingly that most Americans believe that these indictments,
00:27:16.460
these cases are politically motivated, especially out of the Department of Justice and Special
00:27:21.180
Counsel Jack Smith. I do think that there are some people who think, well, it's, they're only doing
00:27:27.100
this for Trump. If they successfully get rid of Trump and the Department of Justice and the National
00:27:33.100
Security apparatus and the corporate media will stop going after Republican leaders. Well, it's just
00:27:39.100
ridiculous. They see how this has succeeded. They, they will now see how easy it is to get a conviction
00:27:46.460
from an almost 100% Democratic jury in Washington, DC. So this is only going to fuel the acceleration of
00:27:55.660
this domestic war on terror against the political right. And to your point, Jack, there are few
00:28:01.820
Republicans, including, by the way, Republican candidates for president, some of whom are
00:28:08.060
promising they are going to rain the swamp like Donald Trump didn't. They're going to clean up
00:28:13.420
the DOJ. They're going to fire Chris Wray. Utterly silent as this escalation, weaponization of DOJ, FBI,
00:28:22.380
and now federal courts against the president and his allies and supporters.
00:28:26.460
They sure don't have a lot to say on this issue, Jack.
00:28:32.060
And it's, it's really, truly interesting to me because at the same time, I mean,
00:28:36.380
and president Trump has said, you know, if he can, if, and when he returns to office day one,
00:28:41.020
uh, pardons for all of these guys, pardon for Doug Mackey, pardon for Owen Schroer. Owen Schroer,
00:28:45.820
by the way, who's in prison right now in Louisiana, we're told that he had to sit through
00:28:51.500
an entire weekend of solitary confinement down there at the Oakdale FCI in Louisiana because
00:28:58.140
he was not vaccinated. Julie, are you here? Is that standard practice, by the way? Are they
00:29:03.020
throwing everyone in solitary that's not vaccinated? I mean, initially, Jack, you had January 6th
00:29:09.340
defendants, some of whom were arrested shortly after January 6th, who spent months in solitary
00:29:15.980
confinement. Think of Jacob Chansley. He was in solitary. He told the judge for 300 days,
00:29:23.340
charged with obstruction of an official proceeding, not even any serious crime.
00:29:28.140
And they tormented him and finally accepting a plea deal in September of 2021. I mean,
00:29:34.460
I've heard horror stories. Joe Biggs is another one. Uh, one of the proud boys convicted of seditious
00:29:40.700
conspiracy. Jack, he was in jail for almost two years before he finally went to trial and he spent
00:29:46.940
months in solitary confinement. Uh, it, uh, I believe it was a prison near Miami. So they are intentionally
00:29:55.580
tormenting these defendants. And I've even heard a story last week about a January 6th defendant
00:30:02.220
who is now serving out a sentence on that obstruction, uh, conviction, who also has been placed in solitary.
00:30:09.820
So these are political prisoners to say the least. This is the sort of thing if we heard that was
00:30:16.140
happening in other countries, that we would be running to the United Nations with a resolution
00:30:21.980
that they're violating human rights, civil rights, uh, and abusing their political foes. We hear nothing
00:30:29.340
about this. I mean, this is actually embraced by the corporate media.
00:30:34.860
Julie, we are, we are just about out of time. Everyone go follow Julie Kelly, Julie underscore
00:30:40.780
Kelly to, uh, her sub stack, juliekelly.substack.com. Uh, when we come back,
00:30:46.540
Vita Duffy joins us again here at human events daily, as we go through what could be very historic day in
00:30:52.300
our Republic in my ear about the boring people at your office. I'm trying to listen to the new
00:31:01.100
All right, Jack Posobiec back live human events daily. We're joined now Evita Duffy of the
00:31:07.980
Federalist Evita. We're looking and covering this, this trial, this new show trial, uh,
00:31:14.460
that started today. This is something that I think a lot of people have pointed out was coming,
00:31:19.580
stripping the presidential candidate, um, off the ballot, which by the way, who is a former president
00:31:25.740
himself, the immediate president, former president, top of all the polls, clearly by every definition,
00:31:30.940
the leader of the opposition in this country. And yet we have a show trial here going on right
00:31:36.780
in Denver, Colorado. And I was thinking, you know, there was somebody that we used to have
00:31:40.620
on the show that was telling us that the communism was back and it's, it's on the rise here in America.
00:31:45.020
And that was the Vita Duffy. So we wanted to get you on a Vita. How is it that the left in other
00:31:50.620
countries and at other times has used these show trials or denying, uh, denying the opposition,
00:31:57.020
the ability to have a voice in government in order to achieve their ends at total control?
00:32:03.340
Yeah. I mean, this is, this is textbook authoritarianism. I mean, there,
00:32:07.100
this is essentially an attempt, an attempt to disenfranchise half of the country. That's what
00:32:12.700
happens in a, in a dictatorship in a third world country where people say, we're going to actually,
00:32:18.060
the elites at the top, we're going to decide who's going to be in power. Uh, I mean, Trump is,
00:32:23.740
is the, the most likely Republican presidential nominee. He's Biden's primary political opponent.
00:32:29.420
This is not a, a normal, uh, case, right? This is what the judge, um, Tanya Chuckkin, I think her
00:32:36.300
name is. She's, she's been trying to continuously say in all of these appeals, this is normal. And,
00:32:40.940
you know, we have to adhere to the law. All of these charges against Trump, uh, have been really,
00:32:45.900
really ridiculous. And in the case of Colorado, um, I, I think really just shows how transparent
00:32:51.340
the Democrats have become and how far they've descended into authoritarianism.
00:32:56.940
Well, and it's, it's interesting to me because I think you pointed out, right, that it's, it's not,
00:33:01.100
you know, people will say, Oh, every time I say something like this, even, even people in my family,
00:33:05.340
people, my, my social circle that I talked to about, you know, all the time will say, they'll say,
00:33:08.940
come to me and say, Oh, Jack, this is crazy. And Jack, this is crazy. And I, and I think it's so
00:33:13.020
interesting that you point out that this is textbook because I'll say, no, no, no, no, no,
00:33:17.580
no, no. It's not crazy at all. From their perspective. This is a playbook. This is a
00:33:21.820
strategy. This is, this is their textbook. This is their writing. This is their ideology. This is
00:33:27.740
the same exact tactics that we've see play out, whether it be China, whether it be Russia,
00:33:32.860
whether it be Spain, whether it be all over the world. These are the same exact tactics that they
00:33:38.300
always try. It's now you might say, obviously they are crazy tactics for sure, but to say they're
00:33:43.420
new is actually not true. And I think that's something that is probably a broader topic,
00:33:48.860
but it's something that, okay, you know, we, in America, we say, Oh, you know,
00:33:52.220
what's that line from Ron Swanson history began on 1776 and everything that happened before that was
00:33:57.580
a mistake. Like, yes, I get it. It's very funny. It's rah, rah, but it's something that I think Americans
00:34:01.980
lose when we kind of diminished the fact that actually there was a lot of history that happened prior to
00:34:08.140
1776 history. That's very important history that obviously number one led to the creation of the
00:34:14.620
United States, the way that it did drawing off of the Greeks and the Romans and the Bible, etc. But
00:34:20.380
also the leftists have this history as well. So talk to us a little bit about why it's important for
00:34:25.900
for Americans to actually relearn that history. Yeah, I think that there's a, there's this perception
00:34:33.180
that the left tries to curate that all of their causes, um, and all of their, all their movements
00:34:38.140
or the revolutions are always bottom up, right? That it's a revolution of the people and we're
00:34:42.620
going to take over. And, and what I think that this show trial and what, you know, you saw,
00:34:47.420
especially we've talked a lot on the show about, um, the, the Spanish civil war, or even what happened
00:34:53.340
in Soviet Russia. A lot of times these, these movements aren't actually organic from the people.
00:34:58.620
They start as political philosophies from a group of elitists really. And, and their way of seizing
00:35:05.100
or maintaining power, uh, is through elitist means like this, right? Well, it's like what's happening
00:35:10.220
with Trump right now. They're literally trying to boot him off the ballot in a state, in multiple
00:35:15.660
states. Actually, Colorado is going to be one of, of many I'm predicting that are, that are actually
00:35:19.900
going to attempt this. Um, and so I, I think the perception that this is for the people by the people
00:35:26.140
is a lie. Leftism, particularly Marxism has always been a top down sort of business. That's what we're
00:35:32.860
seeing right now. And I, I fear actually what happens when the people realize what Democrats
00:35:39.100
and the left have, have done to them, um, come, come election day. If Trump is booted off the ballot
00:35:45.180
or if the law fair has become so severe that he's unable to, to even have a campaign, people are going
00:35:52.780
to get very angry. And that's when you see real revolution, the kind that the founding fathers
00:35:58.220
actually intended the American people, um, to, to consider when the government got too tyrannical.
00:36:06.140
Well, I think that's right. And I think people need to understand to put the American
00:36:09.500
revolution in context. It was, it was about self-determination. It's the, it was the war of
00:36:14.220
independence. Um, so that doesn't necessarily mean that we're just destroying everything that came
00:36:19.500
before this. We did not have a communist revolution in the United States. And I, by the way, I have to
00:36:25.740
point, I, I do have to kind of, you know, point out something of you, you, you said that you said
00:36:30.060
that communism is a business. And I was like, I was like, well, I don't think that they would probably
00:36:34.940
describe it as that, you know, probably, probably the last people. Yeah, no, no,
00:36:43.660
no. Well, no, I just, I, I think that they're, they're con artists though, from, from, from the
00:36:49.980
core. Right. And when, when actually this is, this is so interesting, right. When we, when we talk
00:36:54.140
about what's happening culturally in America too. So it's not just political, right. In the way that
00:36:58.700
they try to control our elections, um, in 2020, it's not just, you know, it's not, it wasn't just,
00:37:03.900
uh, you know, the suppression of the Hunter Biden laptop. It wasn't just Russia collusion, which,
00:37:08.780
you know, discredited Trump's entire presidency, right. They do these kinds of things,
00:37:12.300
but even there, um, there, you know, from the bottom up sort of displays of, of, of power from
00:37:19.820
the people. Right. So I'm thinking of like a BLM, um, the, the Marxist race riots that we saw in, in
00:37:25.620
2020, uh, these things are, are, are always very organized, um, and contrived. There was a reason why,
00:37:32.900
um, the left pushed for this George Floyd riot to turn into something way bigger than it was. And it
00:37:39.880
had to do with political purposes, right. It was fueled by the media. Um, it was, it was encouraged
00:37:44.840
by people like Kamala Harris, who was bailing out rioters. This is always, um, a very, a very top
00:37:51.400
down, um, uh, operation. Right. And I, I, I think this is what we're seeing right now. This is what
00:37:58.260
they did in 2020. Right. You were going to say business again, weren't you? No, but I did it.
00:38:08.220
Okay. No, seriously. It, what it is, what it, what, what it is actually, this is something that,
00:38:12.280
that Eric Hoffer explained in his book, true believer. He is the longshoreman, um, just
00:38:19.200
philosopher of San Francisco back when it was a working class area where he wrote that the problem
00:38:24.660
with trying to raise the working class is the working class is too busy working to really care
00:38:31.940
about this, these revolutionary prospects. And then this is what Lennon ran into when he said,
00:38:36.500
I don't understand why aren't these workers revolting? They're, they're just not organizing
00:38:39.940
and revolting the way that Mark's organized, told them to, he said, so, okay, we, perhaps we need
00:38:44.740
some kind of, I don't know, upper class, uh, control unit that is focused on helping the
00:38:54.500
workers rise up. And, and of course, you know, you see this because Lennon and Trotsky were both
00:39:00.340
upper class. Um, uh, chairman Mao himself was an upper class. His father was a landowner
00:39:06.660
and what they ended up calling it was, and I'm sure you've heard the term, this is what they refer
00:39:10.580
to as the vanguard of the proletariat, the vanguard of the proletariat. No, we're not, we're not
00:39:15.860
dictators. We're not a ruling junta. We're not communists taking over the state. No, we're just
00:39:20.740
helping the working class to rule this. And of course is depicted in the book animal farm.
00:39:26.020
It's the pigs that control the farm and kill all the humans, and then eventually send poor horse
00:39:30.340
off to the, uh, the glue factory. So when we're looking at this situation, this is exactly the
00:39:36.020
same thing that is always played out. It's never the actual working class. It's never the actual
00:39:42.420
workers. It's never actually blue collar types. It's always these upper class
00:39:46.580
board people that are just looking to cause trouble fanning the flames of division and
00:39:53.460
dissension. And they see something like George Floyd. And then they went so far and we find
00:39:57.860
this out now that even the medical examiner, they made him change his medical opinion before he went
00:40:03.940
up. This is in the new, the new lawsuit that's come out. They forced him to change his opinion
00:40:08.180
because they said it wasn't politically correct. One more minute to the break of Vita Duffy.
00:40:12.020
Yeah. Well, I, I, I guess I, what really upset, what really upset me about that lawsuit and those
00:40:18.980
revelations is that we watched our cities just burn to the ground, um, for, for something that
00:40:24.980
perhaps is a lie. I mean, this man, I mean, George Floyd had a lethal level of fentanyl in his system.
00:40:29.460
More and more evidence is coming out that, um, this was, this was a narrative driven cause. He wasn't
00:40:35.460
actually murdered in the way that the media and, and, and even the court system led the American
00:40:41.860
people to believe, which then fueled this America is an inherently racist nation. And I think it,
00:40:46.900
it's destroying our institutions. It's destroying, um, families and, and who we are as a nation.
00:40:51.860
And I, I, it, it should be enraging to everyone. I think it's exactly right. And they'll find another
00:40:58.020
George Floyd. They'll find a, and actually James Lindsay's come on. He said they'll, they'll try to
00:41:02.900
find a drag Floyd, that this is something they're looking for as a potential next standing as we go
00:41:07.700
towards 2024. Evita Duffy is our guest. Stay tuned. We'll be right back with more human events.
00:41:12.820
Daily continues. They're trying to take Trump off the ballot. This country will be blown apart at the
00:41:17.540
scenes if they do. I'm always listening to human events with Jack Posobiec.
00:41:25.940
All right. Jack's back here. Human events daily. We are live Washington DC, but in Denver,
00:41:31.060
Colorado in a courthouse, the regime at the state level is attempting using this George Soros,
00:41:37.380
backed organization to strip president Trump of his ability to be on the ballot in 2024. We are
00:41:45.380
talking to my favorite anti-communist, uh, Evita Duffy, Evita. Now here's my question. So you've kind
00:41:51.860
of done sort of like the, you're like our Gen Z whisperer around here. So, you know, when you're
00:41:57.060
out there, when you're, when you're looking at the streams or the timelines or whatever, uh, whatever
00:42:01.940
app you're on the reels, the tick tocks, et cetera, do you see this as, or just talking to people in
00:42:06.580
general, do you see this rise of authoritarianism as being something that Gen Z is, is really focused
00:42:12.260
on? Do they look at it that way? Do they look at this and say, wow, attempting to block a guy
00:42:17.460
from the ballot? This is, if this were happening in any other country that, you know, we'd call it what
00:42:22.020
it is. Is this something that is, has really had any purchase there? No, the Gen Z does not,
00:42:28.580
unfortunately they don't care at all. Um, they, they do. I mean, I'm sure they're like sort of
00:42:34.180
supportive of it, but not really paying attention because, um, they, I mean, just to be clear with
00:42:41.220
Gen Z has been brainwashed by Marxist since they, they were in preschool. Right. And so now they're,
00:42:48.100
they're in their college years, um, or, or just graduating and they actually spend most of their
00:42:53.620
time encouraging this kind of behavior. So when I was at U Chicago, multiple left-wing
00:42:58.500
students ran articles saying that we should not accept conservative students because they don't
00:43:03.460
deserve to be at our superior institutions of higher learning. Uh, they constantly try to get
00:43:10.020
conservative speakers or libertarian speakers booted off campus. These are real sincere fascists.
00:43:16.500
Probably if anything, they think that Democrats aren't doing enough to make sure that Trump isn't
00:43:21.140
allowed to run again. These are, um, fully indoctrinated fascists. Uh, and unfortunately
00:43:26.500
they, they are supportive of it. Um, or, well, that's incredibly that right now that's very insightful
00:43:34.500
because this, this, this is essentially your, what you're saying is that Gen Z has embraced cancel
00:43:39.940
culture. So this, this idea that the other side should not have the ability to speak,
00:43:45.780
they should not have the ability to, uh, to be on the ballot. Why not? Because they are,
00:43:50.340
they're intolerant. They're bad. They're racist, sexist, homophobic. They're, you know, all of these
00:43:55.060
things, anti, whatever, whatever the flavor of the day is there against it. And so the idea is that
00:44:00.980
cancel culture must be good. So, so you're not really seeing, because I've seen, I would say that
00:44:06.740
in general over the last year or so, maybe even the last six months, we've seen this sort of push back
00:44:11.140
against cancel culture. Would you say that Gen Z has not really followed that trend or do they just
00:44:17.460
simply view it as, you know, my side versus your side? Yeah, they're, they're very, they're very
00:44:24.100
hyperfixed on, um, on the oppression narrative, right? So if you are, uh, oppressed or the non-oppressed
00:44:32.740
and because they have been taught from the very beginning to view, um, LGBTQ people, minorities,
00:44:40.180
um, uh, other, other types of people deemed oppressed by the left, um, as, as constant in
00:44:47.460
need of, of protection, they, they are actually supportive of violating other people's rights.
00:44:54.100
It doesn't, it's not about the constitution anymore. It's not about the founding fathers
00:44:58.980
or the declaration or any of the values and principles that we used to uphold as Americans.
00:45:03.300
They, they have a new dogma. They have a new, uh, they have, they have a new ideology that's really
00:45:09.860
driving them. Um, and, and that is really, like I said, at its core Marxism. And that's also why
00:45:15.460
they're very preoccupied right now with what's happening, um, in Palestine and Israel. They've taken the side
00:45:20.660
of the Palestinians, not because they care about history or because they know anything remotely
00:45:25.380
about the conflict simply because they view the Palestinians as oppressed, uh, and the Israelis
00:45:29.780
as the oppressors. That's, that's all of their, that's all their worldview ever really boils down
00:45:34.660
to. And so that they, they're able to, uh, you know, say okay to the violations of the first amendment
00:45:40.740
of, of a whole number of constitutional rights and civil liberties, and even, even, um, condone violence
00:45:46.100
in the name of, of that cause. And that's really interesting to me because it's, it's, it's, and
00:45:52.980
there's, there's more meta narratives on this as well that you can talk about, you know, sort of as
00:45:57.380
the, as the popular culture in the U S has moved really from post modern modernism to this new sort
00:46:04.660
of ironic meta modernism where it's basically my side is the correct side. So I have to destroy your
00:46:13.060
side and there are no norms because the only norms are the norms of my side winning. And therefore my
00:46:19.380
side has to win. My narrative has to win. My story has to win. And the idea of norms that everyone
00:46:25.220
follows is like an outdated outmodeled kind of belief where no, we, you know, that doesn't matter
00:46:30.580
because those are, you know, it's, and it's, you could, you can say it's, you know, it's, it's tribal
00:46:34.500
in a sense, but it's, it's also this, it's almost like fandoms going to war with each other, right?
00:46:39.060
You know, my fandom is the number one node. Yours is number one. I'm going to go to war
00:46:42.500
with you, et cetera, et cetera. And all these different things you, you find all of this
00:46:46.180
playing out on the internet, but we also see it playing out now, as you say, on the world stage,
00:46:51.540
in terms of geopolitics, you see it in terms of war. We saw this in terms of Ukraine, um, Russia,
00:46:57.380
and we're also seeing this now in the middle East. And so of course it would just make sense
00:47:02.900
that the very same meta modernism would then find its way back into American politics.
00:47:09.060
Yeah, exactly. And the, another really important thing that Gen Z loves their favorite catchphrases
00:47:15.860
is my truth. I'm going to speak my truth. And so because they always talk about themselves in that
00:47:21.940
way, right? They say that whatever I believe or whatever my narrative is, that is, that is somehow
00:47:27.620
reality, even irrespective of whether it is or isn't, then that means that they can silence or suppress
00:47:33.020
anyone who deviates from that. And that becomes a very dangerous thing because the only way really to
00:47:37.840
figure out what the truth is, is to open up the debate for the, you know, the free marketplace of
00:47:43.440
ideas. And they, they don't believe in that. And they have, they have closed themselves off and become
00:47:48.720
frankly, very intolerant. Uh, and, and, and also very stupid because when you have a university system
00:47:55.040
that, that does, or even a school system in general, right? Because you have social emotional
00:47:58.640
learning and, and the lower levels, um, teaching kids that there is no objective truth or reality,
00:48:04.420
suddenly you have people who are entirely narrative driven and they aren't interested,
00:48:09.580
uh, in, in really talking or learning about anything because it could offend them. And that is,
00:48:16.180
I think, very dangerous for, for an individual, but also for a nation to have people, um,
00:48:21.800
that are, that are so blinded, um, by, by that kind of ideology.
00:48:27.540
We have a lot of work to do. What can I say? We have a lot of work to do. Evita Duffy,
00:48:32.660
a pleasure as always, your immense, uh, detestation of anti-communism, it just,
00:48:38.240
of communism. It just warms my heart so very much. Happy Halloween. Happy All Saints Day,
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by the way, everybody, make sure you go to mass. And, uh, where can people go to follow,
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get your coordinates. Oh, Evita Duffy underscore one at Twitter and my Instagram.
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All right, folks. When we see the rise of this in our country, when we see our country attempt to
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be burst at the seams, you know what I say? I say, bring it on. I'm not scared and I'm not
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surrendering and I'm not backing down. President Trump's not backing down. None of us are going
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anywhere. They want you to quit. They want you to submit. Do not submit. Ladies and gentlemen,
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as always, you have my permission to lay a short.