What happens when the Fourth Turning meets 5th Generation Warfare? A commentator, international social media sensation, and former Navy intelligence veteran, Jack Posobiec, joins host Jack to discuss the latest in the war on terror, immigration, and more.
00:00:51.940You know, if Donald Trump can summon the balls to show up to the debate, I'll wear a boot on my head.
00:00:57.160Texas DPS drones showing Mexican drug cartels hurling explosives along the border.
00:01:02.720Sam Bankman Freed has been found guilty of the charges.
00:01:06.800We had very direct conversations about where the House is, where the House Republican majority is on, for example, dividing the Israel and Ukraine issue.
00:01:14.540And I just told them, we're resolved and we're going to do it that way.
00:01:17.560And everybody there needs to kind of wrap their mind around that because that's reality.
00:01:20.660The President would veto an only Israel bill.
00:01:26.180If any bifurcation of that should occur, he will veto.
00:01:30.620The degree to which Twitter was simply an arm of the government was not well understood by the public.
00:01:37.060Is the FBI still meeting with social media companies?
00:01:39.640We're having some interaction with social media companies, but all of those interactions have changed fundamentally in the wake of the court's rulings.
00:01:51.240That's sort of an acknowledgment that perhaps you weren't just talking about national security, child pornography, and human trafficking, right?
00:01:58.120You had other areas of discussion that did involve constitutionally protected speech.
00:02:02.860No, no, that's not an acknowledgment of that.
00:02:04.500Then how did you change your behavior?
00:02:06.080Out of an abundance of caution, in order to make sure that we don't run afoul of any court ruling, I would say, by the way, of course, that the injunction has been stayed by the Supreme Court.
00:02:18.480Did anybody from the FBI ever discuss constitutionally protected speech with social media organizations?
00:02:30.140This is Evita Duffy Alfonso in for Jack Posovic here on Human Events.
00:02:34.460What you just heard was Christopher Wray, FBI director, lying to the American people, telling us that the FBI never colluded with big tech companies to suppress First Amendment protected speech.
00:03:26.720They also suppressed content related to lockdowns, content related to the efficacy of masks and mask mandates.
00:03:34.220Anything that deviated from the government's narrative on COVID, the federal government was colluding with big tech to censor and suppress.
00:03:42.640Most of the censorship that actually came from the DHS was from a subsidiary of the DHS called CISA, the Cybersecurity and Infrastructure Security Agency.
00:03:55.260CISA was, like the DHS itself, a product of the post-9-11 era, where we were told that this was going to protect the homeland.
00:04:04.380CISA was supposed to actually protect physical infrastructure in our country, like buildings.
00:04:08.940But CISA actually changed its mission as of recently.
00:04:13.620Jen Easterly, the director of CISA, says that her and her agent's job is not just to protect physical infrastructure.
00:04:19.340It's actually to protect Americans' cognitive infrastructure.
00:04:24.560Well, it's your cognitive infrastructure.
00:04:58.640And I know that the legacy media loves this kind of censorship, too, because in the advent of social media and the democratization of information in the Internet age, suddenly the New York Times and the Wall Street Journal didn't have the power that they used to.
00:05:11.340And places like Human Events or the Federalist, where I work, are able to amass viewerships and a following that was unprecedented.
00:05:18.740And so they love words like disinformation, misinformation, and malinformation.
00:05:34.280None of this is about the truth, ultimately.
00:05:37.120It's all about controlling a narrative.
00:05:40.780Whether that narrative be about vaccines and COVID.
00:05:44.600Whether it be about whether the Biden crime family is guilty or not.
00:05:49.120Whether it be about whether it be about social issues, when we talk about whether young people are able to stay their same gender as they used to be.
00:06:01.100Everything that has an impact on politics and power in this country is subject to censorship.
00:06:07.460Because there's people that think they can control us, not just in a physical sense, but also in a cognitive sense with our minds.
00:06:19.120Ladies and gentlemen, one of the best ways that you can support us here at Human Events and the work that we do is subscribing to us on our Rumble channel.
00:06:50.000I'm joined now with Savannah Hernandez, who is a reporter for TPUSA and a writer for the Post Millennial.
00:07:02.640Savannah has a lot of experience with big tech censorship.
00:07:05.840I have, too, but not as much as Savannah has.
00:07:08.900And just the way that the legacy media, but also our federal government and big tech have colluded to control the narrative on so many things.
00:07:16.400And Savannah, like I said, has been a real target of this.
00:07:20.260Savannah, can you talk to me and the viewers just about the kind of censorship that you've experienced and walk us through really what was the wrong thing that really got under their skin?
00:07:31.180Well, the wrong thing was just basic journalism, real journalism in the United States of America.
00:07:36.320So my censorship story started back in 2019, ahead of the 2020 election.
00:07:42.320And what happened was there were a million MAGA marches that were going on in Washington, D.C.
00:07:47.060And I took this incredible shot, right?
00:07:49.920It was just a pan of a crowd singing the Star Spangled Banner.
00:07:53.080You had hundreds of thousands of Americans there in D.C. peacefully protesting because they didn't love what was going on with the election.
00:08:01.160And it's really interesting to see how my censorship now was kind of the lead up to everything that we're going through today, right?
00:08:07.640The censorship and the complete narrative control about what happened in 2020, what happened surrounding the election, how Democrats are allowed to question elections.
00:08:16.120But when we do it on the right, we get potentially jailed for it because let's keep in mind that we do have January 6th political prisoners that are sitting and rotting in jail right now who have been completely stripped of their rights.
00:08:28.160So Donald Trump had retweeted that clip and it resulted in Twitter back in 2020 taking down my entire account.
00:08:36.540You know, about a year later, I said, you know what?
00:08:39.740I love going out on the street and actually just showing what is going on and talking to American citizens because something that our media loves to do is to report to us what is going on and basically tell us to ignore our own eyes and ears, right?
00:08:54.160It's why we'll consistently see the mainstream media telling us that the economy is doing great when in reality, the average American is struggling to get through every day.
00:09:02.020It's why the DHS will come forward and say, oh, yeah, the border is secure.
00:09:06.380Meanwhile, you have independent journalists at the border that are showing thousands of people pouring across every single day.
00:09:13.060So, again, independent journalism has been under attack for years at this point.
00:09:17.060But second time around, I was attacking that trans ideology, attacking the economy by going out and talking to fellow Americans, just simply asking them if what the media was telling us was true.
00:09:28.580And it was an athlete who was competing in the same tournament that Leah Thomas was swimming in back in 2022, who went viral, who pushed back against the entire mainstream media narrative.
00:09:39.960Her interview was picked up by Tucker Carlson.
00:09:42.480It garnered millions of views and it was completely rewriting the narrative that the media was trying to push, that transgenderism, that men and women's sports was a good thing.
00:09:52.960And then the third time around, I got deleted again for just going out on the ground and talking to people about whether or not the gas prices were really as bad as, you know, we were seeing them to be.
00:10:05.700Or if they were OK, just like Joe Biden was saying, because he had come out that same week and said that Americans were feeling more fiscally secure than ever.
00:10:13.560This was a couple of years ago before community notes on Twitter became a thing.
00:10:18.940And, you know, the American response to media propaganda, to the narrative that they're trying to push on us is always incredible.
00:10:27.200And it always goes viral because we can see with our own eyes and ears what's happening.
00:10:31.620But like you said, there is an entire war being waged on our psyche, essentially telling us to ignore our own eyes, ignore our own ears, ignore our own wallets, ignore our own safety.
00:10:41.280When we go out into the streets of America, specifically, you know, cities with liberal policies, our politicians will tell us all day long that these cities are safe.
00:10:49.680I've gone to San Francisco and I've watched people inject fentanyl in front of children, but the media will never show you that.
00:10:54.820So sorry, that was kind of a long rambling here.
00:10:57.440But a quick overview of the censorship and some of these stories, some of the categories and narrative shifts that have been censored via big tech for pushing back against what the media and what our own politicians are trying to deem true.
00:11:11.480Yeah, it's it's such a great overview because there's there are certain things in this country that you're not allowed to talk about.
00:11:19.280I think Tucker did a great speech night. It might have been the Heritage Foundation. I forget which one it was.
00:11:24.860But but he said, you know, there are some things that you're not able to say in this country.
00:11:28.140And and if you want to know what's really important and what really matters, look to the thought criminals, look to what's getting booted off the Internet.
00:11:35.600One of them was COVID vaccine. He said that's the deal. The other one was January 6th and what happened on January 6th.
00:11:42.800And you actually have a colleague who's victim to to really the show trials that have been going on.
00:11:49.080Owen Troyer is somebody who is a former colleague of yours, was was present on January 6th, nonviolent as as as as everybody as mostly everybody was on January 6th.
00:11:59.480Truly because it wasn't an insurrection. And that is as a media federal government created a lie.
00:12:05.240And he was he was put in solitary confinement, made a made a statement on X through some friends through from jail and got punished again by the feds after he was out of solitary confinement, put back in solitary confinement.
00:12:18.760And just I mean, really, just it is it's a tragedy. It should be an outrage to everyone.
00:12:24.160I think that that this former colleague of yours is actually being imprisoned in in the district of of now Speaker Mike Johnson.
00:12:31.440And I haven't heard anything from him about about what what what's going to be done to the January 6th prisoners.
00:12:37.000There's a lot of Republicans, actually, who who are from districts where people are being imprisoned and I haven't heard them stand up to them.
00:12:43.040Can you talk to me a little bit about Owen and about, you know, any anyone else that, you know, that has that has been affected by this and what what you think the purpose is?
00:12:52.720Right, because they're definitely there's a there's a reason why they're trying to severely punish anyone who was present on January 6th.
00:12:59.620All of this is purposeful. What do you think the reason is for your friend, Owen and for others?
00:13:05.820Absolutely. There's a purpose to this. And I think the purpose in jailing, Owen, is to send a message to every single other American that says, hey, if you call us out, if you call us tyrants, if you call us authoritarians, then we're essentially going to be tyrants, dictators and authoritarians and take away your freedom of speech and lock you in jail.
00:13:25.680Now, one of the reasons why we have been hounding censorship and the power that big tech has had is because when you censor somebody online and when you take away somebody's voice online, when you use the ability to alter truth online on, you know, spaces like Twitter, OG Twitter, right before Elon Musk took over, you have control of the complete narrative.
00:13:47.480And when you have control of the narrative, you have control of the population. Even further, you have control of people's freedom of thought, freedom of, again, speech here.
00:13:56.600So this all started with the censorship of people online. And when we all said, oh, well, you know, that person's opinion, it wasn't it wasn't the best or maybe it was as the media would like to say, it was violent.
00:14:08.360It was hate speech. You're not allowed to say that. All speech is free speech. And it started off with the censorship of people online and it now is leaked into the real world to where people have slowly become OK with people being silenced.
00:14:21.300And now you have Owen Schroyer being jailed for his freedom of speech. And like you mentioned, too, there's a lot of Republicans, there's a lot of politicians with January 6th defendants in their districts who won't speak out against this.
00:14:34.040And that's a really good gauge as well to see who truly cares about the American people and our fundamental rights and freedoms, who is willing to stand up, who is willing to say these unpopular truths.
00:14:45.320You know, one of the reasons why I actually do really appreciate Vivek Ramaswamy is because he has been very vocal about Owen Schroyer.
00:14:53.800Jack Possovic has been very vocal about Owen Schroyer, has been at the forefront of highlighting his case because, again, the mainstream media might look at this and say, hey, he deserved it because he was stoking violence.
00:15:05.540OK, where are all of the people from the Black Lives Matter riots who, again, were actually inciting violence?
00:15:11.440Let's not forget that Kamala Harris herself was promoting the Minnesota Freedom Fund to get the actual domestic terrorists who were burning down American cities for the entirety of the summer of 2020 out of jail.
00:15:23.760Why is there no repercussion for those people?
00:15:26.300Also, I'm pretty sure we just had a mini insurrection the other week at the Capitol.
00:15:30.860But, you know, because it was left wing operatives that were doing it, they get away with it.
00:15:35.420So if anything, what Owen's case should highlight is that we live in a black and white two tier justice system here.
00:15:42.720If you are on the right, if you are conservative, if you have common sense, if you believe in basic American fundamental ideals and rights,
00:15:50.100then you're on apparently like the wrong side per the Democrat left.
00:15:55.300So people should be very wary of where censorship online has led to in the real world.
00:16:01.060And again, Owen being censored online initially and now being put in jail and censored in real life has just the lead up and the build up to what is going to happen to every single American if we don't continue to bring light to this and continue to fight back against it.
00:16:16.260We have a couple minutes left, but I want to ask you, what would be your message to all of the Republicans who have who have been silent on this issue?
00:16:25.200I mean, there is so many of them who, like I said before, they're either in district.
00:16:30.120But even if you don't have any prisoners in your in your specific congressional district, this is an assault on on all Americans who care about the freedom to assemble and to peacefully protest or even to question the integrity of an election.
00:16:45.240I mean, part of what what the DHS was so interested in censoring was anybody who questioned the integrity of the 2020 election.
00:16:52.620If you question whether mass mail in balloting was secure or you questioned, you know, whether whether just the way that rules and regulations in the wake of covid were massively altered before the 2020 election.
00:17:07.240You were censored, suppressed, even banned off of social media.
00:17:10.860So what do you have to say to these Republicans who have been silent on the January Sixers, who are a symbol of that kind of censorship when it comes to questioning and and actually wanting to have secure elections?
00:17:23.700They need to stand up and they need to actually care about their constituents and realize that this is a much bigger issue than they are making it out to be.
00:17:32.400You know, we really need to keep the the people, keep the focus at the forefront of this, especially for a lot of the January Sixers.
00:17:39.980Because, like I said, when it comes to a lot of these cases, these people have not been awarded their basic rights.
00:17:46.980They've been thrown in jail without a fair trial.
00:17:49.120They haven't been given their freedom of speech.
00:17:50.900Again, going back to Owen Troyer, who put out a statement and they threw him back into solitary confinement.
00:17:56.480So these Americans, if you think about the fundamentals of this country, if you think about the foundations of America, right, that 1776 spirit,
00:18:05.780I really wish that Republicans would remember where this country started and actually stand up for that like they're supposed to.
00:18:42.080This is the first time you are hearing from me since my speech incarceration.
00:18:47.760And I really don't want to get into what's going on here on the inside.
00:18:53.080I'm much more concerned about what's going on out there.
00:18:56.400But I will say I am finally out of my solitary confinement for a week.
00:19:03.300And I'm extremely blessed because your prayers have come through.
00:19:07.500Some friends helped me get through it with some conversations as well as getting me a digital radio.
00:19:13.340So I had some reach with the outside world.
00:19:16.340And, of course, I could sit here and talk about all the Biden crime family corruption that we've seen, the media that is obsessed with war, propaganda and all the regular stuff.
00:19:26.460But that's not what I want to bring to this message today.
00:19:31.700I've just got done reading some of the mail that has been sent to me.
00:19:38.000And to try to express how important it is or what it means to me would simply be impossible.
00:19:43.120I do somehow plan to show you how grateful I am for that when I do get out of here.
00:19:50.480But I've got to say, my shirt has grown.
00:19:54.400I have to wear a double XL shirt now because my heart has grown so much from your fan mail.
00:20:00.440So that was Owen's call that got him thrown back into solitary confinement.
00:21:13.180And it was a way to send a message to the American people that this government, because it is so corrupt, will do everything in their power to break our spirit.
00:21:22.220But if anything, we just need to be inspired to keep fighting even harder.
00:21:25.760And, you know, I worked alongside Owen for two years.
00:21:29.300And one of the reasons why they were so hated, one of the reasons why Alex Jones, Owen Schroyer, Laura Loomer, a lot of these big personalities are so hated and why they were, you know, some of the first people censored is because they go out into the real world.
00:21:42.840They go out and they speak to fellow Americans or they'll go out and they'll actually have a debate with people on the opposite side and bring real truth and real fact to what is going on in this country.
00:21:54.260And that is something that the left wing cannot stand.
00:21:56.780It's why they always have to resort to censorship.
00:21:58.700It's why they always have to resort to slander, because the truth is a very powerful weapon.
00:22:04.040And that is why it cost, what, Elon Musk, $44 billion to bring back journalists like myself.
00:22:09.800And you can already see the narrative shift surrounding a lot of propaganda that would have previously been very easily believed because our media was the only one that we were allowed to listen to.
00:22:21.200But now that we have a lot more freedom of thought, freedom of information, freedom to access what is actually happening to people like an Owen Schroyer.
00:22:29.420I think many Americans are waking up and they do ultimately realize what, again, Owen being thrown in solitary confinement means, what the way that American citizens really are treated by our politician means in regards to our entire country.
00:22:46.420And I just hope that people, again, will look at this and really understand what the government actually thinks of you.
00:22:53.420Our current government hates us, to be quite honest.
00:22:56.120And I always say that, you know, we shouldn't really be fearing these foreign adversaries.
00:23:01.100I think that the biggest enemy to the American people is our own U.S. government that is actively working against us every single day, that is actively working to take away our rights, take away our freedoms, to subvert the American population, to hit us with propaganda from every single angle and to destroy that, again, 1776 Americana spirit.
00:23:20.760There is a reason why young people in America are not taught the real foundations of this country, because if we all realize how free we really all are, if we realize that it is not the government that gives us our rights, but they are God-given rights, this country would look very different.
00:23:36.880And it's why, you know, we have an entire generation that has been educated to think that we need to be dependent on the government, that our rights come from the government, that we need to be subservient to this government so the government will take care of us, that we need to fear the government, when in reality, the government should be fearing the people.
00:23:55.800Savannah, I think that they do fear the people.
00:23:58.000I think, actually, they know everything that they've been doing, whether it's what was outlined in Missouri v. Biden or what happened post-January 6th, that it's completely unconstitutional.
00:24:09.960They know that in the Declaration of Independence, all of the criteria for overthrowing a tyrannical government, they've met it, and they know that.
00:24:18.880And I think that's why they are so keen on breaking Owen's spirit, like you said, making an example of everyone who was at January 6th, convincing us that that was an insurrection, even though it wasn't, and to show people what will happen if you dare to actually try to fix the corruption within our government, to say, if you actually do something, this is what will await you.
00:24:44.540This is the fate that awaits you, and that is a truly terrifying thing, and that's why, like we brought up in the last segment, it's upon every Republican, irrespective of whether you like Infowars or you like the people on January 6th, to actually stand up for them and the constitutional rights that they have, right, to peacefully protest, to say what they think.
00:25:05.600Savannah, something interesting about you and I is we both did riot reporting during the BLM riots, and I was in Kenosha, Wisconsin, so during the Jacob Blake riots, and what was interesting for me about that riot was I actually observed a lot of fathers, husbands, brothers, sons, standing outside of their homes and their businesses with baseball bats, rifles, handguns.
00:25:33.600And the way that they had made Kyle Rittenhouse look like he was alone in being armed and trying to defend himself against the Marxist rioters who had descended on that city was completely false.
00:25:46.400And had independent journalists not been in Kenosha like myself to say, hey, wait, everyone was armed, this was a situation where the federal government and state government had completely left it to chaos, and regular citizens had no choice but to defend themselves, that story would not have been told.
00:26:05.600So, you know, what do you think would have happened in the places that you were on the ground in reporting on this rioting, had independent journalists not been there, and had we seceded all of coverage to these stories, to the legacy media, which is ultimately what the big tech censors colluding with the federal government want?
00:26:29.260Well, I think it would have been that continuous classic narrative of a fiery but mostly peaceful, right?
00:26:35.640We already saw CNN standing in front of a literal dumpster fire at a riot trying to tell us that, well, these protests are mostly peaceful.
00:26:44.820And I can actually kind of give you a real-world example of what it would have been like if the independent journalists weren't on the ground.
00:26:49.860Because after my first Twitter account got censored, so did all of my Black Lives Matter riot footage, right?
00:26:57.220So I did have various national news networks that were linking to stories that were writing articles about, for example, white Antifa members shutting down the highway and stopping a Black father from going to work to provide for his family in the name of Black Lives Matter.
00:27:12.440Except when that footage got deleted, now there was nothing to corroborate that headline.
00:27:17.880There was nothing to corroborate that story.
00:27:20.100So we would have been force-fed this narrative that, again, George Floyd died from a knee on his neck, which is still propaganda, that we are going to be fed for the rest of eternity.
00:27:29.540And we would have been told that, you know, the people on the ground, they're fighting for social justice, that anybody protesting against COVID lockdowns, right?
00:27:39.880Because let's not forget this pivotal aspect of 2020, that there were people who were protesting against lockdowns, protesting against COVID-19 and the government shutdown, the forced lockdowns.
00:27:52.600If Donald Trump had a rally, it was super spreader events.
00:27:55.000But then when you had Black Lives Matter rallies, they were fighting for racial justice, so it was okay.
00:28:02.120And these people had to loot and riot and destroy various local businesses because they were poor and they needed bread for their families.
00:28:11.000I mean, we already saw the narrative that the media was trying to push during the entirety of 2020.
00:28:15.320We've seen how their lives spiraled out of control.
00:28:17.680And if it wasn't for independent journalists on the ground like yourself as well in Kenosha, Kyle Rittenhouse verifiably would have been in jail.
00:28:23.680Because we did see the narrative that they tried to push out, right?
00:28:27.680There was even rumors going around that he had targeted and shot Black people, which was just verifiably false and out of control.
00:28:34.180So, again, we're just living in this intense time of lies.
00:28:38.520It's why it's so important for everybody to just be so vigilant and to highlight what is going on in the streets of America.
00:28:45.400So, yeah, just an example of what I think would have—I mean, the country was already bad, but I feel like it would have just gotten like 10 times worse if we didn't have the independent journalists on the ground who were kind of trying to combat what was being force-fed to us and say, like, hey, I don't think that this is exactly correct what the media is putting out.
00:29:03.720Absolutely. It was so—I have—it was interesting, really, to observe the differences between how the BLM writers were treated versus how the J6ers were treated.
00:29:16.940And everybody knows about this, but what I really like to think about is you look back in history, right?
00:29:22.620There was something called the Red Guard during the takeover in communist China where they were these communists who were able to get away with literally with murder.
00:29:33.020And the same thing goes for the Marxist BLM writers.
00:29:35.680They're able to get away with everything, mostly because of the enabling from the media, right?
00:29:41.120And if there weren't independent journalists on the ground saying, hey, watch these rioters beat up an old man, watch them spit in the face of cops who are just standing there, watch them torch and burn down entire communities.
00:29:56.920I mean, this was unprecedented in American history, but I think if we look back a little deeper, we'll actually see that there are parallels in what happened during BLM and what's happened in communist takeovers all over the country.
00:30:09.640Savannah, do you want to give me 30 seconds?
00:30:11.480What's your advice to young journalists who are living in this post-truth era?
00:30:16.180Just always be hungry for truth and don't be afraid to actually show what's going on in the streets of America.
00:30:22.300Be courageous, be brave, push back against that narrative.
00:30:26.200And again, remember the foundations of this country.
00:30:29.440Remember that 1776 Americana spirit and the importance of your First Amendment and utilize it for as long as you can and keep fighting for it.
00:30:39.640Awesome. Thank you so much, Savannah. It was wonderful talking to you. We'll be right back.
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00:30:52.040You know, we partnered with Google, for example. If you Google climate change, you will, at the top of your search, you will get all kinds of UN resources.
00:31:02.640We started this partnership when we were shocked to see that when we Googled climate change, we were getting incredibly distorted information right at the top.
00:31:12.720So we're becoming much more proactive. You know, we own the science and we think that the world, you know, should know it.
00:31:24.720We own the science and we think that the world should know it.
00:31:29.280That is an incredible line from the UN at a WEF conference saying, admitting, actually bragging about partnering with TikTok and with Google to suppress climate-related content that they don't approve of.
00:31:46.600One of the examples of climate-related content that they don't approve of actually was a video of mine that I posted on TikTok just last month that got completely nuked by the platform, likely because of the UN.
00:32:01.460There is a growing worldwide push to restrict freedom of movement in the name of climate change.
00:32:07.280France has outlawed domestic flights less than two and a half hours long, and the entire European Union is considering doing the same.
00:32:14.240Nearly 100 cities across the globe, including 14 American cities, are part of the C40 Cities Climate Leadership Group, which has a goal of by 2030 limiting air travel to one short-haul return flight every three years per person.
00:32:28.180Since these cities collectively make up about one-twelfth of the global population, the plan would effectively annihilate the air industry.
00:32:34.800By 2050, the United Nations wants to ban all flights that do not use sustainable aviation fuels.
00:32:40.000But sustainable aviation fuels are not scalable and are wildly expensive.
00:32:44.780If the UN and C40 cities have their way, airlines will close and air travel will only be affordable to the extremely wealthy.
00:32:51.560And it's not just air travel. Private vehicles are also under major attack.
00:32:55.380With no planes or private vehicles, people become immobile.
00:32:58.240And that's exactly what the ruling class elites posing as climate activists want.
00:33:02.440They want the populace ushered into 15-minute smart cities that conveniently require no travel and are equipped with sophisticated surveillance technology to make sure that nobody leaves.
00:33:13.520Of course, none of this has anything to do with the environment.
00:33:16.040Globalist jet-setters pretending to be environmentalists are producing fake doomsday climate predictions and spreading fear as a ploy to consolidate power.
00:33:28.600It was taken down from TikTok for misinformation.
00:33:33.080And not only was it taken down for misinformation, TikTok told me that this video had the potential to cause physical and psychological harm.
00:33:45.120I don't know what that means, frankly, and I don't understand how my video could do that.
00:33:49.700But I'm going to bring in Mark Morano, who actually, he is the founder of Climate Depot.
00:33:54.740He also is the author of The Green Fraud and The Great Reset, Global Elites in the Permanent Lockdown.
00:34:00.900Mark is actually the man who helped me make this video because it's based off of an article that I wrote with tons and tons of quotes and information from Mark.
00:34:11.640And all of the years and years of research that he's done on really the climate fraud, which is what he's written about and researched for so many years.
00:34:20.340So, Mark, what do you think was the reason that, what do you think was in that video that really got the UN and the climate censors upset?
00:35:10.340That's why Google, the clip you showed earlier of the Google Director of Communications from the United Nations,
00:35:16.020saying that the United Nations own the science and we partnered with Google to essentially make sure the world knows it by altering all the search results.
00:35:41.840What's really interesting about all of this climate hysteria, right, is they say the science is settled.
00:35:49.620We know that the world is about to implode, that vehicles and air travel are destroying the environment, and yet the science is settled, but any opposition to them needs to be censored.
00:36:03.340And generally, if you are on the right side and you're backed up by facts, you should be able to refute anyone who disagrees with you with facts and with logic, right?
00:36:16.640To me, that's an indication that the science is not settled.
00:36:20.380Mark, can you walk the viewers a little bit through some of the main climate talking points where they say the science is settled on this?
00:36:27.000And then it turns out, well, maybe it's a little bit more nuanced than that.
00:36:31.940And perhaps it's not as settled and set as they like us to believe.
00:36:38.640Yeah, well, first of all, I'd just say, so people can understand this.
00:36:41.360This is actually, I think, a very enlightening way to explain it.
00:36:45.560Think of COVID with all the doctors and the epidemiologists from Harvard, Stanford, and all the prestigious universities from around the country who signed on to the Barrington Declaration.
00:36:57.860It even had the support of Nobel Prize-winning chemists and others.
00:37:02.620And they were literally at the highest levels of government told that they were fringe epidemiologists.
00:37:07.640They were partnered with Anthony Fauci, Francis Collins, the NIH, and the CDC, all partnered together with the corporate media and big tech to suppress that information.
00:37:18.700We know any doctors who came out and even had a video on YouTube were censored, canceled, defunded.
00:37:24.120Many cases lost their jobs for going against the narrative.
00:37:26.400We also know that the Biden administration has a scientific advisory board at the EPA.
00:37:31.860They literally vetoed and fired over 50 scientists they know wouldn't go along with their scientific claims at their science advisory board.
00:37:41.640So they can credibly claim all scientists agree now at the EPA with Joe Biden's climate claims.
00:37:46.600When you get rid of all the scientists who don't agree, then you end up having 100% or 97% unanimity.
00:37:54.040So as I relate that to climate, what I like to say is there's a book in the 1980s that everything I learned, everything I needed to know I learned in kindergarten.
00:38:02.100Well, everything I saw happen in COVID I had learned during the climate debate.
00:38:05.880Everyone from Nobel Prize-winning scientists just recently to John Clouser, he won the Nobel Prize in physics last year.
00:38:12.380He now calls global warming a scam, and he goes on.
00:38:16.260He was scheduled to give a talk at the International Monetary Fund.
00:38:19.280This is the guy who just won the Nobel Prize in physics, not the Nobel Peace Prize, which is what the United Nations gave – I'm sorry, which is what the Nobel Committee gave to the UN and Al Gore.
00:38:28.900But this was an actual Nobel Prize-winning scientist, was uninvited to the International Monetary Fund once his views on climate became public.
00:38:39.800So having said that, to answer your question, on almost every metric going back decades, they have predicted doom and gloom and given us tipping points.
00:38:50.020And I even found that 1864, when Abraham Lincoln was still president, was the first climate tipping point from an academic, warning of climatic excess unless mankind changed his ways.
00:39:00.620So believe it or not, Abraham Lincoln dealt with this doomsday scenario on climate when he was president, and it hasn't come true.
00:39:08.920So what they will claim is that – and this is the most substantial claim they make and the most repeated and the most broadcast – is that the weather is getting worse.
00:39:17.920This is what John Podesta said, we need cap and trade, we need net zero.
00:39:22.040The advisor to President Biden and Obama, John Podesta said, that's why we need this, because the weather is getting worse.
00:39:29.300First of all, even if the weather were getting worse and it's not, nothing they're proposing would even affect global CO2 emissions.
00:39:38.400If the United States zeroed out its emissions, it wouldn't even affect global CO2 levels.
00:39:42.980Having said that, though, on hurricanes, floods, tornadoes, droughts, wildfires, the number one narrative of the media – it's always getting worse – there is either no trend or declining trend on climate timescales in all those weather events.
00:39:55.580In other words, as carbon dioxide has gone up in the atmosphere, extreme weather is either no change or less extreme.
00:40:01.980We know this because this is actually in United Nations reports.
00:40:05.660It's actually in the National Climate Assessment, but they're buried in these reports.
00:40:10.520So what they do is, like, for instance, polar bears.
00:40:13.040There's now more polar bears than we've ever counted.
00:40:15.720But according to Al Gore, polar bears are disappearing, but they're only disappearing from Al Gore's books and movies.
00:40:22.840He made them the poster child of his first film in 2006, which won – one of the reasons he won the Nobel Peace Prize.
00:40:28.380Because fast forward, with record levels of polar bears counted and the numbers not declining in any way, shape, or form, what did he do in his sequel?
00:40:35.980He just omitted the mention of polar bears.
00:40:37.820So you go from poster child, oh, polar bear's not convenient, let's not talk about them.
00:40:51.180Mark, and you just set that out so well.
00:40:52.700And people can go to climatetipo.com for so many resources on everything that Mark just talked about.
00:40:57.500We're going to be right back with Mark in just a second to talk more.
00:41:04.160I'm always listening to Human Events with Jack Posobiec.
00:41:10.120There was a story that Climate Depot with Mark Morano sent out yesterday that was really, really disturbing.
00:41:17.340A group of scientists, actually from the UK, want to put warning labels on meat to say, warning, meat consumption harms the climate or something of that nature, right?
00:41:29.020And they actually are doing, as they found out in a study, that when people see that warning label on meat, they don't want to eat the meat, right?
00:41:38.700And they won't buy it or they'll go to vegetarian or vegan options instead.
00:41:43.600The war on meat is really interesting because meat is essential to your health.
00:41:51.020There's been a long war on meat, really, in general.
00:41:54.440But it's ramped up in recent years because now they've been able to say, not just is it supposedly unhealthy for you, which it's not, but that it's actually extremely detrimental to the climate.
00:42:07.200Mark, can you talk to me a little bit about the scientists and the war on meat and dairy in general?
00:42:12.680Yeah, well, I worked in the United States Senate Environment and Public Works Committee during the heady days of Al Gore's film and President Obama trying to do his cap-and-trade carbon tax on America.
00:42:25.100And in 2007, the U.N. came out with a report that said cow emissions, in other words, belching and the other end of cows, contribute more greenhouse gases than all the entire transportation sector combined, planes, trains, and automobiles.
00:42:39.580And I'm not talking about the John Candy, Steve Martin film.
00:42:42.460They literally said cows were essentially target number one.
00:42:49.920Well, the latest study you referred to, this is from Durham University, the scientists there, the professors in academia, came up with a novel idea where they show a picture of a torched landscape, presumably from fire and wildfires.
00:43:02.740And the warning label says, warning, eating meat contributes to climate change.
00:43:07.760It's a cigarette-style warning label to scare people.
00:43:11.040They claim they got a group of 1,000 people, divided them up into different subgroups, and the ones who were shown the warning of this meat label that it contributes to climate change ate a lot less meat.
00:43:21.380So they want this now to go viral, and they want it to spread.
00:43:24.960Now, keep in mind, the U.N. chief, U.N. climate chief, Christina Figueres, who's now stepped down from that role, but she years ago had said, we need to make meat.
00:43:33.720Anyone who eats meat in restaurants treated like smokers put them in a small section in the back corner, eventually force them outside to make them ostracized.
00:43:44.260Then we have an NYU professor who, for the last decade, and I'm not making this up, has been promoting a meat patch, similar to a nicotine patch, that you put on your skin to make eating meat have an allergic reaction to you.
00:43:56.620They want to bioengineer your body so that you repulse meat.
00:44:00.420And they're doing this in order to save the climate.
00:44:06.500In July of this year, 2023, John Kerry has announced to the world and the United States that it's time for American agriculture to start hitting the net zero climate targets.
00:44:17.240This means going after high-yield fertilizer, nitrogen, which scientific Americans said contributes our, you know, we eat a lot of meat, which then makes our urine or our human pee turn into nitrous oxide and we create warming agents.
00:44:31.780So they're going after our number one, when you go to the bathroom, saying that's causing warming because of too much meat.
00:44:40.640And John Kerry also said we're going after the methane, which is coming from the cows, which, as they said, is destroying the planet as well.
00:44:47.980So you have Biden's EPA, unelected, starting to regulate the methane, going after cows.
00:44:52.940And you have now this whole net zero agenda.
00:44:55.460Bill Gates is America's number one farmland owner.
00:44:57.600His stated goal is to get people to eat fake synthetic meat.
00:45:00.760Bill Gates, along with Richard Branson.
00:45:03.340Remember, most of this problem is not only the international organizations like UN, WHO, and World Economic Forum, but it's these billionaires who've captured all these agencies.
00:45:12.200Everyone from the Soroses to the Bloombergs to even people like Bill Gates and even people like Warren Buffett, who you'd never know, is heavily investing through Bill Gates and all the woke stuff.
00:45:26.800So what they've done, essentially, is by Bill Gates being the number one farmland owner, he's already got lab-grown meat being approved.
00:45:33.200They're already approving insect eating throughout Europe.
00:45:35.760They are coming front and center for American agriculture, the way they did the Netherlands farmers, the way they did in Sri Lanka.
00:45:41.400In Australia, in public schools, they're giving kids cricket-based snacks as a psychological operation, a psyops.
00:45:47.580They go home and tell their parents, hey, I had insects today, and they tasted great.
00:45:51.380They're trying to condition us to accept this world of food rationing where they're in control of the food supply.
00:45:57.560It's so interesting when we talk about farmland because I'm actually coming to you live from rural Wisconsin, the dairy state, and I've talked to a lot of farmers who have said the rules and regulations that the state government and the federal government have put on us is untenable.
00:46:14.520Small farmers are really not able to exist in not just the fear-mongering climate campaign against them, but also just economically.
00:46:25.980This country has made it impossible for small farmers.
00:46:33.500Mark, I am really disturbed by this because it comes down to our nutrition.
00:46:38.280A lot of people think that this is just climate fear-mongering, but it's not going to affect us.
00:46:43.120The C40 Cities Climate Leadership Group, and you mentioned the billionaires, C40 Cities Climate Leadership Group is a group of nearly 100 cities across the globe.
00:46:52.340The group is run by Michael Bloomberg, and they have a goal of, by 2030, having zero kilograms of meat consumption and dairy consumption.
00:47:18.500Because the United Nations partnered with Google and Big Tech Central.
00:47:21.740It's very hard to get this kind of information out to the general public.
00:47:25.120And when you say it, people don't generally believe it.
00:47:27.420That's why when I do talks and do reports, everything I cite is mainstream corporate publications or the voices themselves from the UN World Economic Forum who, I don't believe I have a secret document.
00:48:30.340And I think what really gets me about a lot of this is that young people across America have bought into the climate lie.
00:48:37.500They've been told from infancy that the world is going to end in their lifetime if they don't do everything they can to fight back against the COVID tyranny and, oh, I'm sorry, the climate, the climate.
00:48:49.940And so, Mark, thank you so much for being here and for talking about this.
00:48:54.060You're really, you're a natural treasure.