Human Events Daily with Jack Posobiec - EPISODE 598： AUDREY HALE'S MANIFESTO UNLEASHED, MIGRANT CRISIS INTENSIFIES AT BORDER

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00:00:30.000 This is what happens when the fourth turning meets fifth generation warfare.

00:00:40.460 A commentator, international social media sensation, and former Navy intelligence veteran.

00:00:47.080 This is Human Events with your host, Jack Posobiec.

00:00:50.020 Deliver us from evil.

00:00:51.500 Nobody feels good about the way things are going in America.

00:00:53.900 I don't even think Democrats do.

00:00:55.500 And the premise for most Republicans running against Trump in that primary was, well, you

00:01:00.500 can't beat Joe.

00:01:01.240 We can.

00:01:02.200 And with polls like this, that blows that argument out of the water.

00:01:05.280 This is probably going to lead to a lot of Democrats increasing the chatter that Joe

00:01:09.340 Biden should step aside and make room for another Democrat.

00:01:13.140 And I think the problem that Democrats have is they don't know who that Democrat would be.

00:01:16.900 In a remarkable sign of a gradual racial realignment between the two parties, the more diverse the swing state, the farther Mr. Biden was behind.

00:01:26.600 And he led only in the whitest of six.

00:01:30.000 While Ukrainian President Zelensky is still deeply committed to the fight, some of his advisors are worried.

00:01:36.640 One of Zelensky's aides telling time he deludes himself.

00:01:40.140 We're out of options.

00:01:41.240 We're not winning.

00:01:42.540 But try telling him that.

00:01:43.860 Gaza is probably the biggest terror complex in the world.

00:01:48.280 This is what we're up against.

00:01:49.800 And we have to uproot it.

00:01:50.940 Because if we do not, they will strike again and again.

00:01:54.020 And they're saying it publicly.

00:01:56.100 Jewish students at UMass Amherst are on edge after a fellow student is arrested for assaulting a Jew on campus.

00:02:03.920 The school confirming the incident, saying, quote,

00:02:05.860 An individual approached participants and made aggressive in rude gestures.

00:02:09.880 Later, this person returned, assaulted a student who was holding an Israeli flag and proceeded to steal and spit on the flag.

00:02:17.220 Thousands of pro-Palestinian protesters raged in Washington, D.C.

00:02:21.500 before descending on the White House, smearing the gates with red paint.

00:02:24.560 They estimated at one point the crowd in Washington was 100,000 strong.

00:02:30.220 I think you can see from Director Wray's response.

00:02:32.420 He knows what we can all plainly see with our eyes, that we are less safe today.

00:02:37.120 America is less secure.

00:02:38.860 Americans traveling abroad are now being asked to come home from multiple countries.

00:02:43.060 We have millions of people who have infiltrated across our southern border.

00:02:46.780 Goodness gracious, they've now been here for a couple of years.

00:02:48.880 That's about the same length of time that Hamas took to plan what they did on October 7th.

00:02:53.560 Good afternoon, everybody.

00:02:57.220 I am Darren Beattie, filling in for the great Jack Posobiec.

00:03:01.140 The long-awaited collab between Revolver News and Human Events is here, ladies and gentlemen, on this day of November 6, 2023.

00:03:13.100 We have an action-packed and insight-packed show for you today.

00:03:18.140 Lots of interesting things to discuss.

00:03:20.720 We're discussing the situation on the border.

00:03:22.760 We're getting a deep dive into the censorship industrial complex, Biden's dilemma, and much more.

00:03:30.800 But first, I'd like to open with some breaking and really fascinating news.

00:03:36.540 Story coming out from Louder with Crowder.

00:03:39.640 Steve Crowder has seemingly managed to obtain pages from the covered-up manifesto of the transsexual school shooter. 0.96

00:03:50.380 As you might remember, big story in March, there was a tragic shooting at Covenant School.

00:03:57.540 And for the longest time, the police department had covered up the manifesto, which is bizarre.

00:04:03.420 Usually this would never happen, unless the information and the contents within the manifesto was politically inconvenient to the regime or to the police department or something else.

00:04:13.560 So this is a very big deal and very interesting.

00:04:16.860 Based on what we've seen so far from some of the pages that come out, there have been some fascinating and rather telling quotations.

00:04:25.060 I'll just share some of them with you to the extent that I can, because some of it's quite graphic and explicit.

00:04:32.380 Hale, the name of the transsexual shooter, referred to the day as a death day and said,

00:04:39.080 Can't believe I'm doing this. I hope my victims aren't ready.

00:04:44.260 I hope I have a high death count. 1.00

00:04:47.840 Kill those kids. 1.00

00:04:49.980 Quote, going to a fancy private school with those khaki, fancy khakis and sports backpacks with their daddies and mustangs. 1.00

00:04:58.820 Want to kill all you little crackers. 1.00

00:05:02.160 Bunch of little censored with your white privileges. 1.00

00:05:06.140 Interesting, the awkward grammatical form of white privileges. 0.53

00:05:10.640 So it speaks to the IQ of this individual, maybe diminished by hormone intake.

00:05:15.660 Who knows?

00:05:16.860 I might be 10 minutes tops.

00:05:18.600 It might be 3 to 7.

00:05:19.820 It's going to go quick.

00:05:21.200 And so on.

00:05:22.560 And so what's interesting from this narratively is that a lot of people would expect,

00:05:26.500 given that it was a transsexual shooter at a Christian school,

00:05:30.780 this would have had a religious motivation. 0.98

00:05:32.880 But it looks like it's just plain old anti-white kill whitey rhetoric, which is quite fascinating. 0.99

00:05:38.520 So we can get into this more.

00:05:41.080 As I mentioned, we have some fantastic guests.

00:05:44.420 We're going to cover the open borders migrant caravan crisis going on with our guest, Redhead Libertarian. 0.78

00:05:51.080 And we're going to do a deep dive into the truth about the censorship industrial complex,

00:05:57.220 the real story about the architecture of censorship in the United States.

00:06:02.740 All coming up with Mike Benz, Redhead Libertarian. 0.70

00:06:06.240 I'm Darren Beattie filling in for Jack Posobiec.

00:06:08.820 Stay tuned.

00:06:09.840 We've got some bombshell stuff coming up right at the end of the break.

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00:06:44.920 like Human Events with Jack Posobiec.

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00:06:53.680 This is the Revolver News Human Events collab you've all been waiting for.

00:06:58.240 We've got a great guest, Redhead Libertarian, coming right up to talk about the border crisis

00:07:04.000 and the migrant crisis.

00:07:05.500 But first, a bit of information I wasn't able to convey at the opening.

00:07:11.040 And this is Biden's numbers are dismal.

00:07:15.500 Trump's numbers are giving the regime increased anxiety.

00:07:20.340 A major poll just came out from New York Times basically indicating that Trump's massive lead

00:07:26.560 is still more massive.

00:07:28.680 And this includes his lead in swing states.

00:07:32.280 And in fact, in paying attention to the news, key Democrat strategists such as David Axelrod

00:07:40.300 and the person who is effectively a Democrat strategist, albeit a horrible one, Bill Kristol,

00:07:45.700 have both come out in a state of increased agitation and concern, saying Biden the senescent

00:07:53.560 must drop out.

00:07:55.640 They understand this is a crisis point.

00:07:57.680 And to exacerbate Biden's dilemma, you have collapsing support in the Muslim community

00:08:05.420 due to an inherent dilemma that he has that the Democrat Party's power is split between

00:08:12.300 an establishment that's probably more favorable toward Israel, but an increasingly vocal and

00:08:17.860 powerful and energetic left base that is pro-Palestine.

00:08:23.600 No matter what Biden does, he's in trouble, it seems like.

00:08:27.560 And we just got a glimpse of some of the energy behind the pro-Palestinian side yesterday with

00:08:34.920 pretty, pretty raucous protests going on right outside of the White House.

00:08:41.340 You can only imagine what would happen if those people wearing Trump hats, but I guess they're

00:08:45.700 pro-Palestinian, so it doesn't matter.

00:08:47.440 But this really underscores the trouble that Biden's had.

00:08:51.560 It underscores the increased global phenomenon of this kind of decolonial alliance taking place 0.96

00:09:00.480 that encompasses the protests.

00:09:02.800 And it seems to be only getting worse with the open border situation, which is absolutely

00:09:06.940 out of control on a historic scale under Biden.

00:09:10.200 So here to tell us more about the open borders disaster, and in particular, new migrant caravans 1.00

00:09:16.760 coming in, we have our first guest, Redhead Libertarian. 0.97

00:09:20.440 Thanks so much for joining us.

00:09:21.760 Tell us what's going on at the border.

00:09:24.740 Hi, Darian.

00:09:25.420 Thank you so much for having me.

00:09:26.660 Well, we're experiencing an immigration crisis down there like we've never seen before.

00:09:32.280 I believe it's been 8 million migrants lit into the United States since Joe Biden took

00:09:39.280 over, and as Senator Kennedy said, that's four Nebraskas.

00:09:44.400 That's four states.

00:09:45.820 The federal government's refusal to stop the invasion at Eagle Pass is a violation of the

00:09:50.500 Article 4, Section 4 of the U.S. Constitution, which says that the federal government's job

00:09:55.220 to protect states from invasion, and there's been an invasion declared down there, but they're

00:09:59.860 not doing it.

00:10:00.620 So personally, I'd like to see Ken Paxton add another W to a 77% win record against the Biden

00:10:07.420 regime.

00:10:07.840 And get them to do something about this.

00:10:12.380 I know he recently got an order to make them stop cutting the razor wire, so I guess that'd

00:10:17.720 be interesting to see where this goes.

00:10:20.880 Indeed.

00:10:21.560 No, it's really remarkable.

00:10:23.100 And I think over 2 million people have been arrested at the border, which gives an indication

00:10:28.200 of how many people are actually coming in under Biden.

00:10:31.520 And it's always been a bad situation, but it seems to be historic at this point in terms

00:10:36.960 of the catastrophe.

00:10:37.800 Do you have any insight or idea as to why Biden has been so aggressive in his neglect, shall

00:10:45.960 we say, of the border situation?

00:10:47.680 And whether there's anything realistic that we can do in order to stop this and ultimately

00:10:55.580 curtail the negative effects of what's going on at the border?

00:10:59.320 Is there anything practical that, say, an elected official on our side could do in order to address

00:11:05.200 this?

00:11:05.580 Well, there are asylum laws in place that just aren't being enforced.

00:11:10.360 So if they would just enforce these asylum laws, that would take care of a lot of the disaster 1.00

00:11:17.740 down there.

00:11:18.820 Have people come and say they want asylum, and if they don't fit asylum, you know, speedy

00:11:26.740 trial, America, get them out of here. 0.99

00:11:29.640 They don't need to stay here.

00:11:31.560 And most of these asylum claims, from what I'm reading, aren't even, they aren't coming

00:11:35.360 from countries that need asylum.

00:11:37.180 And they're walking through five countries that they could easily stay in just to get

00:11:41.480 to America.

00:11:43.320 But going back to what you had said earlier, there was a report a few years ago, I believe

00:11:48.020 it was 2018, from the Border Patrol, saying that about one-third of the children that make

00:11:52.860 it to the border there are there without somebody who is their parent, which is alarming, whether

00:11:58.640 it's trafficking, whether it's anything.

00:12:03.580 I mean, it's just the idea that one-third of the children that are showing up don't have

00:12:07.700 a parent.

00:12:08.260 We don't know if their parents are sending them.

00:12:10.260 We don't know if they're being trafficked there because they've heard that it's easier

00:12:13.460 to get in with a child.

00:12:14.940 We don't know.

00:12:16.000 But I know that they're losing children.

00:12:17.780 I believe there was an expose by the New York Times recently that said they lost like

00:12:24.320 100,000 children since this whole crisis started.

00:12:27.460 And some of these children are turning up in factories in America.

00:12:31.140 So I guess this is just something to watch for and kind of see how it unfolds.

00:12:34.880 And I believe that the idea is to change the entire fabric of our country and just make

00:12:39.220 it not look like our country anymore.

00:12:41.120 Why would anybody want to come here if we also look like a third-world country? 1.00

00:12:45.280 No, it's really troubling.

00:12:47.960 And in fact, as somebody who's studied the news, I can tell you, people don't want to hear

00:12:52.840 this.

00:12:53.140 People are so depressed about the situation at the border because it seems like there's

00:12:57.040 no real will or capability to fundamentally address the issue of open borders.

00:13:03.200 And you saw an example of this kind of internal thinking in a recent prank call to Italian politician

00:13:11.640 Maloney, where she basically admitted like there's no will, there's no way to do it.

00:13:16.240 It's basically over to imagine what would actually be required to stem the effects, let alone reverse

00:13:24.960 the effects, is quite remarkable.

00:13:29.040 And also, you're right about the children.

00:13:30.740 You know, it's worse.

00:13:31.980 The cartel's revenue model used to be based primarily on the drug trade, and now it's on

00:13:37.980 the person trade, which is far more profitable.

00:13:42.300 And what I think a lot of people don't understand is the situation on the border is really not

00:13:46.240 just people from Latin America coming in anymore.

00:13:49.760 It's literally everyone from all over the world.

00:13:52.920 If you watch some of the footage that's out there, people crossing the Darien Gap, it's

00:13:57.980 a United Nations situation.

00:14:00.860 People from countries you couldn't even imagine, including very dangerous countries, are coming 1.00

00:14:06.440 in en masse.

00:14:08.120 There's no checks, no vetting whatsoever.

00:14:11.520 It's hard to imagine how this could be sustainable.

00:14:14.540 Do you have any idea of what the ultimate agenda is here?

00:14:18.320 What's the end point?

00:14:19.760 Is this just Biden's incompetence, or is there a larger agenda at play, a larger goal that

00:14:26.420 the regime is aiming toward in its de facto policy of no borders?

00:14:31.420 Well, the whole goal is a great reset.

00:14:35.740 I mean, they wrote the book about it and published it and put it in our face.

00:14:39.720 So we're going to need to get to a point.

00:14:42.640 In order to reset, we need to get rid of our current situation.

00:14:47.680 We need to get rid of the current status quo.

00:14:49.840 And they need to have people begging to reset, like, please just make this stop, and then

00:14:56.400 they're going to offer the solution, which is the great reset.

00:14:58.900 So that's my idea, even if I sound crazy, to talk about it.

00:15:04.000 Well, it's quite remarkable.

00:15:05.620 You know, people talk about the great reset.

00:15:07.580 And there's also the great replacement, because this is a massive demographic replacement of

00:15:13.980 a population.

00:15:15.240 And a former government official once told me it had a very fascinating but troubling thought

00:15:20.300 experiment that I remember to this day.

00:15:22.880 He said, you know, there's the pantheon of great dictatorial villains that would include

00:15:30.480 Mao and other people like this.

00:15:32.700 But even somebody like Mao or somebody like Stalin, both of whom responsible for tens of

00:15:38.640 millions of deaths, even these ultimate villains, if you, if somebody had gone up to, say, Mao

00:15:46.140 and suggested, why don't we open the borders of China and allow massive immigration from the 0.59

00:15:52.900 third world to the point that inevitably the Chinese population itself will be replaced in 0.81

00:15:59.580 a matter of a half a century to a full century.

00:16:02.520 And any Chinese person who objects to this transformation will be called racist and have

00:16:09.420 their livelihoods and jobs ruined, if not worse. 0.98

00:16:12.920 Mao would look in that person's face and say, that is the most evil and ridiculous thing I've 0.99

00:16:19.000 ever heard. 0.99

00:16:19.480 And yet, uniquely, this seems to be an agenda promulgated in the West.

00:16:25.940 It is really hard to wrap your heads around your thoughts on that.

00:16:33.300 Yeah, I mean, I'm at the point where, like, as a libertarian, we don't, we, we're not

00:16:38.780 interventionists.

00:16:39.780 But when it comes to our borders, that's where, that's, that's where we're strong.

00:16:44.440 We're not a nation without our borders.

00:16:46.080 So our military shouldn't be going overseas to the, to the Middle East, to Yemen, to Libya,

00:16:51.760 to Iran, Iraq, to Afghanistan, to Israel, to Ukraine.

00:16:56.560 It shouldn't be going anywhere over there.

00:16:58.160 It should be defending our borders.

00:16:59.840 Just if you want to stop this, the military at the border, and that's going to stop it.

00:17:05.120 You're so right.

00:17:06.140 And it's a system.

00:17:07.380 It's not, the open borders doesn't exist in a vacuum.

00:17:10.160 Our interventionist foreign policy, our clumsy foreign policy, for instance, Hillary Clinton's

00:17:16.600 State Department did a remarkable job at creating millions of refugees, and then they have to

00:17:23.340 resettle them.

00:17:24.300 And so it's what one commentator once memorably described as an invade the world, invite the 0.98

00:17:30.600 world policy. 1.00

00:17:31.540 It's a vicious kind of revolving door type system where our idiotic and evil and corrupt foreign 1.00

00:17:38.520 policy creates the refugees, and our idiotic, evil, and corrupt immigration policy resettles 1.00

00:17:46.060 them in the interior to the complete displacement of our native populations. 1.00

00:17:53.140 Absolutely.

00:17:54.040 I agree with that.

00:17:55.440 I agree with that, and that's what we're seeing happen for our eyes.

00:17:58.020 It's a, it's a terrible situation.

00:18:00.240 Tell, tell the audience where can they go to find out more about your work and more about

00:18:04.740 this situation in particular.

00:18:07.420 Absolutely.

00:18:08.500 I am the redheaded libertarian.

00:18:10.320 You can find me on s.com, T-R-H, official.

00:18:13.540 You can also go over to t-cast.com and become a...

00:18:16.920 You talk about influences.

00:18:21.900 These are influences, and they're friends of mine.

00:18:26.160 Jack, you're so like, where's Jack?

00:18:28.300 Jack, he's done a great job.

00:18:36.300 I'm Darren Beattie.

00:18:37.680 We're back.

00:18:38.660 This is Human Events.

00:18:40.080 I'm filling in for Jack Posobiec, who is on assignment, and we're here having a great conversation

00:18:45.400 today with redhead libertarian on the catastrophic situation on our nation's border.

00:18:51.500 We're absolute hordes coming in, millions and millions of people throughout the entire year.

00:18:58.760 Seemingly an unsustainable issue, unsustainable thing to transpire.

00:19:07.420 Biden's poll numbers seem to be collapsing.

00:19:10.640 Trump's poll numbers are much stronger.

00:19:12.720 We've talked about the crisis itself, but now I think we should address the meta issue of how does this border crisis, if at all, play into the 2024 calculus, and how does it affect Biden's prospects going forward?

00:19:28.940 Yeah, this migration crisis is not popular.

00:19:35.940 And places where Biden had a stronghold, like cities, for instance, a lot of the migrants are being replaced there, and they're not liking it.

00:19:46.600 The people in the cities are coming out against it.

00:19:48.680 Like Chicago, for instance, they had a meeting, and they said, we can't take anymore, you know, and it was black. 1.00

00:19:55.200 It was a group of black people, and they were like, we already get the scraps, and they're going to get the scraps of our scraps. 1.00

00:20:00.760 So this is not sustainable. 0.87

00:20:05.240 Yeah, it is very interesting to see.

00:20:07.220 I think a lot of members of the audience might have seen clips of erstwhile luxury hotels in New York City basically transforming into tent camps in order to accommodate the absolutely massive number of people poured in from the border.

00:20:25.560 And this sort of, this is the complication.

00:20:27.360 And it's interesting that you say that, is that it only becomes a problem when the clients of the Democrats themselves are directly inconvenienced.

00:20:38.580 It's not an issue of, okay, simply the fact that we're destroying the country, destroying the value of citizenship, dropping the value of citizenship into nothing.

00:20:50.480 Just absolutely ravaging what little social cohesion remains in the nation by doing this.

00:20:59.700 But if you're a resident of New York City, if you're a resident in Chicago, you're not supposed to be inconvenienced by these policies.

00:21:08.760 They're supposed to be resettled into the interior of the United States where middle America is. 0.98

00:21:16.220 They're supposed to be resettled in Maine and such.

00:21:19.040 And so I wonder if you have any insight, why is Biden risking his own kind of political favor in future by resettling these migrants into cities? 0.92

00:21:30.500 Or are there simply so many that they can't dump them all in Maine anymore?

00:21:35.960 I'm wondering if it has to do with who's sending them there.

00:21:39.500 Maybe it's not the Biden administration.

00:21:41.360 Maybe it's Texas.

00:21:43.100 Maybe it's Florida.

00:21:44.780 Those governors sending these cities.

00:21:48.600 Because these cities were like, we are sanctuary cities.

00:21:51.980 And you come here and we accept you.

00:21:54.520 But, you know, Dr. DeSantis, my governor, sent them all up to Martha's Vineyard.

00:21:59.300 And I've never seen those residents more happy than when they sent those migrants away on buses. 1.00

00:22:06.100 So it was this virtue signaling.

00:22:09.540 And now it's been exposed as to exactly what it was.

00:22:13.420 Yeah, it's very, very interesting.

00:22:15.400 And those photos and the footage of, I think, in particular, the Roosevelt Hotel and some other hotels in New York City, absolute pandemonium, looked like a third world tent camp. 0.58

00:22:30.880 Actually, you know, the biggest insult is to say it looks like San Francisco.

00:22:34.780 The Roosevelt Hotel in New York looked like San Francisco.

00:22:37.920 And that's a result of this bizarre migrant resettling issue. 0.89

00:22:42.980 Do you have any insight as to the people profiting from this?

00:22:46.540 Are the usual suspects, like the Catholic Charities groups?

00:22:50.280 We did a piece at Revolver.News on the Lutheran organizations that receive money in order to resettle various, this is refugees in particular.

00:23:02.000 But I imagine there are groups that are similarly responsible for settling these immigrants.

00:23:07.780 Do you have any knowledge or insight on that?

00:23:10.660 Not really.

00:23:12.860 I do know that it's NGOs that are doing it primarily.

00:23:16.680 And they do line their own pockets with whatever money they get from the state that helps them do that or from charitable people who help them do that.

00:23:25.060 And it's just not a sustainable thing to be happening right now.

00:23:30.240 But there's a large transfer of wealth from 2020.

00:23:34.700 And we're just seeing that extend in different ways through different crises ever since.

00:23:40.600 Indeed. Indeed.

00:23:41.600 Indeed. And at the beginning of the segment, I mentioned a possible tie-in between the open border situation generally and some of the flare-ups we've seen in terms of pro-Palestine protests, the United States and Washington, D.C.

00:24:01.100 There was a big one.

00:24:02.220 Do you think it's fair to draw a connection between the open borders policy and the general kind of third world decolonialization ideology that seems to be driving a lot of these recent protests pertaining to the Mid-East situation in Gaza?

00:24:26.620 Oh, absolutely. Absolutely. They're here and they wave their flags.

00:24:31.920 I mean, we're getting everyone from all over the world.

00:24:37.440 We're not just getting people from South America.

00:24:41.340 They're coming from everywhere.

00:24:43.260 I'm not sure who's bringing them here on boats, but they're coming from Africa. 0.99

00:24:46.660 You know, they're coming from everywhere.

00:24:48.920 So that's driving it because they still come and they still have their country pride.

00:24:53.860 You know, they're still waving their country flag.

00:24:55.260 They're not here to assimilate to the American values.

00:24:58.060 They're here to bring their culture and spread their culture and spread their values or their lack of values, for that matter.

00:25:05.880 And we've seen it.

00:25:06.860 We see who's attacking people.

00:25:09.280 It's all pretty clear.

00:25:11.220 And we need to be able to speak about it freely.

00:25:14.500 Indeed.

00:25:14.920 You know, and it is interesting and ironic in some ways because you have a lot of people in the United States who are now coming out and expressing consternation, expressing outrage, expressing concern regarding all of these protests that are, you know, not only pro-Palestinian, but in some ways more directly inflected pro-Hamas.

00:25:41.920 And it's very frustrating in a way to see people finally express concern about this who had either never expressed any concern about open borders policies.

00:25:56.760 And if anything, many cases have kind of looked down with condescension on anyone who would draw attention to the issue of the border.

00:26:06.720 And now it's quite clear, or at least I would suggest it is, I'm curious as to your thoughts, that for anybody who is concerned with the pro-Palestine protests, for anybody who is concerned with a decreased support for Israel, as many donors have written to Harvard expressing concern about pro-Palestinian protests,

00:26:29.720 is it the case that the two things go hand-in-hand, the more the United States invites the third world, the more you are going to see this transformation in sympathies toward causes like Palestinian cause and other sort of globalized decolonialization movements?

00:26:52.720 I have a theory. So there's really no presidents that get two terms without a popular war.

00:26:59.720 I mean, the way that it is, Donald Trump didn't start any wars, didn't have a second term, George Bush finished a war, didn't have a second term.

00:27:08.720 So the Ukraine war was not popular. That was largely not popular.

00:27:15.720 But the Israel war is popular, and whether they didn't start it, but, you know, they're sitting in the Mediterranean right now thinking about, you know, whatever they're going to do there, we don't know yet.

00:27:29.720 So there's a popular war now. Also, on top of this, we have migrants who are pro-Hamas coming in through the border. 0.53

00:27:39.720 That's another crisis. So we're seeing the reaction to this popular war, this pro-Israel popular war, to be like, we need to expel Palestinians. 1.00

00:27:49.720 And to see them finally looking at Harvard and and the Marxists there and saying, OK, this is not good anymore.

00:27:58.720 And so they're looking at a way to fix all the things that are wrong with our country using Israel kind of has the powder keg for getting for getting the pro-Hamas people out of here, for kind of returning it to more of a status quo that people people liked. 0.63

00:28:14.720 People were happy with and becoming more popular and more powerful in that regard to hopefully get Biden a second term, or at least get some Democrat elected to the second term, because nobody's been thrilled with what the Democrats have done to this country.

00:28:31.720 Now, it's a very interesting hypothesis, and it's, you know, it's complicated precisely because of this tension within the Democrat Party of, you know, a lot of the establishment elements that are sort of the

00:28:44.700 that are certainly sympathetic to Israel that remain sympathetic to Israel, and the sort of energetic, increasingly energetic base, which takes the other side.

00:28:54.700 So if this is part of the agenda of the Biden administration, it might blow back in their face, because it's kind of hard to see how an intensification of this conflict would actually help Biden, given, first of all, his poll numbers with Muslims,

00:29:12.700 more so given the inherent tension and split on this issue within the Democrat coalition in particular.

00:29:20.700 Well, before the election-

00:29:22.700 Do you think this could- 0.95

00:29:24.700 Yeah, this could blow back and hit him in the face. 0.98

00:29:27.700 I think so. There's a chance of that happening, as always. I've always thought they were going to replace him with Gavin Newsom, eventually anyway.

00:29:38.700 Yeah.

00:29:39.700 We're going to see, as the election approaches, things happen that are good that everybody wants to see. We'll see a drop in inflation. It'll be artificial, but we'll see it. We'll see interest rates artificial, but we'll see it. We'll see them do something about the border. We'll see it's more pro-Israel. We're here to support our greatest ally.

00:30:05.700 And don't forget, most importantly, we're going to see concert ticket prices decline. The Biden White House was very pleased with that. So we've got a lot of things. Thank you so much. Tell the audience again where they can find you, where they can read more about this important topic.

00:30:22.700 Absolutely. You can find me on x.com, the redheaded libertarian, T-R-H-L official. You can also go over to him as a subscriber.

00:30:33.700 Stop buzzing in my ear about the boring people at your office. I'm trying to listen to the new human events with Jack Posobiec.

00:30:43.460 Hello, everyone. Good afternoon. I'm Darren Beattie filling in for the great Jack Posobiec of human events. This is the long anticipated revolver human events collab. We've got some great stuff coming up for you. Now we want to discuss censorship.

00:31:02.640 One of the major issues. I used to say the major issue, but now I think the major issue is the regime has gone beyond censorship and now simply throws people in prison or indicts them for doing things that it doesn't like.

00:31:15.840 But censorship is still very much an important issue. And the good news is we've actually made great progress in terms of striking back against what some, including my next guest, would call the censorship industrial complex.

00:31:31.760 And in fact, there's a very important case, Missouri v. Biden, that's actually going to come up before the Supreme Court that pertains precisely to government organizations putting pressure on big tech companies to censor things.

00:31:48.860 And so it has all sorts of really significant First Amendment implications, significant implications in terms of how the censorship regime operates.

00:31:59.600 There's nobody in the country, I think it's safe to say, who understands more intricately and profoundly how censorship works in all of its manifestations than my next guest, Mike Benz, who's a former State Department official and currently the head of the Foundation for Freedom Online,

00:32:16.860 which is at the cutting edge of all of this. Mike, thanks so much for coming on.

00:32:21.860 Thank you, Darren, for all the work you're doing as well.

00:32:24.860 So tell us a little bit about Missouri v. Biden in particular and how it relates to the broader sort of censorship space and recent developments in that space.

00:32:37.860 Yeah, so it's easy to easiest to understand Missouri v.

00:32:42.860 Biden is essentially being a case of government censorship laundering.

00:32:46.860 So in the same way that money laundering operates by concealing an illicit source of funds, you have all this private sector censorship that is happening essentially through the government laundering censorship, but concealing its government source.

00:33:01.860 So there's government funding of censorship institutions, there's government coordination on censorship policies, there's government creation of private sector censorship cutouts, and there's government outsourcing of censorship dirty work.

00:33:16.860 And Missouri v. Biden basically seeks to expose all of these sources of government censorship laundering through cutouts in the universities and in the NGOs and through how government works with private sector companies.

00:33:31.860 Now, the plaintiffs, the Missouri State Attorney General and Louisiana State Attorney General's offices, are making the sweeping claim that all of those forms of censorship laundering essentially are First Amendment violations.

00:33:46.860 They're absolutely correct on that.

00:33:48.860 There was a grand slam indictment of the federal government in a July 4th ruling at the trial court level several months ago that it was partially upheld on appeal.

00:34:00.860 There was some good stuff and bad stuff about the appeal.

00:34:03.860 But now it is before the Supreme Court, and we will really have the moment that will set where the chess pieces are on everything from the legislative front to the state government front with a final say, at least at the early stage of the case, now to determine whether the government can operate through cutouts in order to outsource what they can't do themselves.

00:34:27.860 Yeah, that's such an interesting point.

00:34:30.860 Yeah, that's such an interesting point.

00:34:31.860 And I think there's been an evolution how people have thought about the censorship issue.

00:34:37.860 I think originally many people thought, okay, the censorship is primarily driven from within these big tech companies, which is true to an extent.

00:34:48.860 But I think part of what's revealed through Missouri v. Biden, revealed through your work exposing these DHS-linked organizations, is that, well, yes, there are many sympathetic people to censorship within the tech companies.

00:35:02.860 So a lot of the pressure was actually coming from the government, but it was doing so to some degree, not exclusively, but to some degree and a substantial degree through these kind of cutout organizations where they effectively outsourced their violations against the First Amendment.

00:35:23.860 So let's say we get a favorable ruling in Missouri v. Biden, and that is to say that the government itself needs to step away far more than it's been doing.

00:35:36.860 How do you see this affecting the development of the censorship industry?

00:35:40.860 Because, you know, an analogy we might draw would be affirmative action.

00:35:45.860 The regime depends on affirmative action.

00:35:48.860 Affirmative action impinges on every single institution in the country, how it functions from a legal perspective, economic perspective.

00:35:57.860 And so while we can celebrate a Supreme Court ruling that curtails affirmative action, we can also reasonably anticipate that the regime will find some other way to achieve the ends that it already wants.

00:36:11.860 And so since you're on the cutting edge of this, I'd be very curious, what is the next move from the standpoint of our regime's commissars in response to the threat of Missouri v. Biden and the generalized threat of catching them red handed in direct censorship activities?

00:36:30.860 Right. Well, that's a great analogy, actually, there, because just as with with the censorship industry, with with DEI, there were also not just sort of the individual policies of universities or corporations, but there was also there grew this vast sort of cottage industry of DEI service providers.

00:36:53.860 These were folks like your sort of diversity, equity and inclusion consultants or credentialists who would essentially tell schools or tell public universities or private corporations whether or not they've satisfied various DEI requirements or that service intermediaries for getting state government contracts or federal government contracts.

00:37:14.860 So there's this vast blob in the middle in DEI contracting and service providing.

00:37:21.860 And so, too, there is now in the censorship industry.

00:37:24.860 So from 2018 to 2022, much of government censorship was essentially top down in terms of pressure and funding from government into what they called a whole of society model that that entwined the government with the private sector, civil society organizations and then allies.

00:37:43.860 And then allies in the news media and fact checking orgs.

00:37:47.860 But a lot of this depended on the government serving a quarterback function where they were coordinating what the NGOs and the universities were doing.

00:37:55.860 They were giving them funding. They were coordinating with the fact checkers and giving them funding.

00:37:59.860 They are putting direct pressure on the private sector companies.

00:38:02.860 They were acting as the quarterback there. The way the censorship industry is currently being restructured in anticipation of a devastating Missouri v.

00:38:11.860 Biden ruling is to do a sort of middle out restructuring, whereas instead of having things run out of CISA at the DHS or or or or the State Department's Global Engagement Center, it would be run out of a what they what they're calling a middleware company.

00:38:27.860 A censorship service provider who sits in the middle between the user and the platform, but is intermediated by essentially intelligence agency and government and major government figures who inform that middleware censorship companies policies and filtering mechanisms.

00:38:48.860 So NewsGuard is an example of this. NewsGuard, of course, has Rick Stengel on its board who ran the Global Engagement Center at the State Department.

00:38:56.860 Anders Fogh Rasmussen, who was the head of NATO for five years in the Obama administration.

00:39:01.860 Tom Ridge, the former head of DHS and General Michael V.

00:39:05.860 Hayden, who is a former four star general head of the NSA and head of the CIA.

00:39:10.860 So that's who's in control, essentially, of the middleware censorship provider who is now also doing censorship compliance for this new European Digital Services Act.

00:39:20.860 They're trying to get congressional regulations to mandate middleware so that it looks like it's coming from the private sector when indeed it's again being intermediated by these intelligence cutouts.

00:39:32.860 Very interesting. And we'll get into that more after the break and maybe name names and get into some of the more nefarious and frankly some in some cases ridiculous some cases both actors in this space.

00:39:47.860 But indeed, NewsGuard and these other sort of middleware companies seem like a sort of freelance version of HR, you know, the compliance lady for hire, as it were, that for some reason, I mean, it astonishes me that this business model works, but it just shows how companies and organizations, institutions just feel compelled to follow these best censorship practices.

00:40:17.860 When in fact, they might not need to do so. Do you have any idea on how, you know, how the business model works?

00:40:24.860 We're running out of time for this segment, so we'll get into that later. Talk about NewsGuard. Talk about some of the true scumbags in this space. And there are many.

00:40:33.860 Renee, you're one of them, but there are many. We'll talk about the scumbags when we get on and then talk about maybe some of the broader connotations of what's the geopolitics of censorship. 0.96

00:40:44.860 That's coming up. We've got Mike Benz, much more. I'm Darren Beattie filling in for Jack Posobiec. We'll see you very shortly after the break. 0.97

00:40:51.860 I'm always listening to Human Events with Jack Posobiec.

00:40:57.860 Welcome back. I'm Darren Beattie filling in for Jack Posobiec. We're having a fascinating conversation with the one and only Mike Benz on the censorship industry.

00:41:08.860 Before the break, an organization called NewsGuard was briefly mentioned. Now, Revolver.News did a major piece on NewsGuard quite some time ago.

00:41:18.860 And for those in the audience who don't understand what this is, I mean, there are a lot of ridiculous things going on in the censorship world.

00:41:25.860 But NewsGuard is pretty remarkable even by censorship standards. This is an organization that's basically a company.

00:41:35.860 And for a small fee, in fact, it's probably not that small, they will give you the privilege of censoring information for you effectively or using their judgment to tell you whether something is acceptable or not.

00:41:51.860 You know, appropriating this kind of weird health analogy of giving things nutrition labels.

00:41:57.860 This information is good. It's yummy. This information is apple. If it, oh, something is supporting open borders. This is yummy. If something is naughty, this is no good. That's bad nutrition. That's junk food.

00:42:12.860 You're not allowed to eat that little boy. That's effectively what they're saying with these nutrition labels.

00:42:18.860 So just the idea of a company that would have the chutzpah to basically say, you pay me and I can tell you what information is suitable for you to consume is pretty remarkable.

00:42:31.860 But it gets even crazier when you look at the people whose judgment you would actually be paying for in terms of being able to censor what you see.

00:42:40.860 And Mike mentioned some of these. There's Michael Hayden, who is a notorious scumbag. 0.99

00:42:45.860 This is the guy who led the NSA under its notorious and illegal spying activities exposed by Edward Snowden, which I believe he basically lied about. 0.97

00:42:56.860 So you're having some of the top liars and crooks in the country, Michael Hayden, Rick Stengel, who is a self-described propagandist for the Biden regime and the Global Engagement Center, 0.98

00:43:09.860 a who's who of censorious, discredited, and disgraced scumbags. 0.95

00:43:15.860 And these are the people that you for a small fee can have tell you what information you're allowed to consume and what you're not allowed to consume is quite amazing. 0.60

00:43:25.860 And so it's hard to imagine how this business model is sustainable.

00:43:29.860 Mike, tell us a little bit more about some of the planning you discovered behind the scenes on how they're going to force this ridiculous business model down our throats.

00:43:40.860 Right. So there's a few ways they're looking at it.

00:43:43.860 So you'd mentioned in the previous segment a figure out of the Stanford Internet Observatory named Renee DiResta, who began her career in the Central Intelligence Agency.

00:43:53.860 She did a talk in 2021 with her fellow censorship heavyweight Kate Starbird, who runs the University of Washington, essentially the Bill Gates University Censorship Lab and Francis Fukuyama, the sort of notorious end of history theoretician about how to create a competitive middleware space.

00:44:16.860 That is how to how to pump up the revenues of companies like NewsGuard and create a bunch of different NewsGuard type spinoff companies.

00:44:26.860 And in their hour and a half talk planning how to build out a commercial industry around this, they all agreed that it wouldn't be able to survive commercially on its own because no market exists for it.

00:44:41.860 So they contemplated two different ways to pay for it.

00:44:44.860 One of them would be to have a congressional mandate so that rather than having the government compel censorship, which would be a violation of the First Amendment.

00:44:57.540 The government could instead compel companies of a certain size like Twitter or Facebook or YouTube to adopt middleware disinformation compliance services like one of a menu of NewsGuard type companies.

00:45:15.420 And so it would lock in a commercial market so that even if those companies didn't want their services, they would be forced to under some sort of FTC regulation.

00:45:26.420 If they wanted to have their license to operate as a large social media platform, they would need a disinformation compliance service like NewsGuard.

00:45:34.480 Another way is if they contemplated would be to have the tech companies pay for it themselves if they could be sufficiently pressured, coerced or crisis induced through essentially crisis PR to have the companies pay out of a corporate social responsibility budget, essentially a kind of donation to these companies.

00:45:56.980 So basically, they know the free market wouldn't allow a censorship mercenary company, so they're compelling it.

00:46:03.060 And these are, again, intelligence figures who are driving this fake free market.

00:46:07.240 So this is effectively an ESG for censorship is what they're anticipating in terms of getting the tech companies to cover it.

00:46:16.720 It's pretty remarkable. 1.00

00:46:17.780 And I think many people listening to this simply don't understand how disturbing, but also how stupid and ridiculous this is. 0.99

00:46:25.840 This woman, Renee DiResta, yeah, she was CIA, she was all this, but she cut her teeth as part of an organization that made a big deal out of Russian interference, the Russia, Russia, Russia. 0.99

00:46:38.160 And it turns out the organization that she was affiliated with actually itself created fake Russian bots and then had those bots support a candidate they didn't like, whom they then turned to say that person is a Russian agent candidate.

00:46:55.720 And then on top of that said, well, this is evidence of the Russia problem that, of course, justifies future funding for their operations.

00:47:04.760 When she was caught red-handed doing that, she got involved with all the things that you've been reporting on, the election integrity partnership.

00:47:12.120 They did a long study.

00:47:13.200 I've seen this in universities, them doing lectures on how some revolver news stories that you know something about, the color revolution stories and how they developed.

00:47:25.340 They did a whole mock-up on how this works.

00:47:28.480 And, of course, now that that's been exposed, the thing about these people, they're mediocrities who can never experience career death.

00:47:36.780 It's really incredible to see these mediocrities fail from one fake job to the next.

00:47:42.980 And it's part of the frustrating thing is you think you get them in one place and they pop up in another place. 0.96

00:47:48.040 And now her latest script is forcing institutions effectively to pay for the privilege of having their censorship decisions decided for them by the likes of Michael Hayden, Rick Stangle, and other disgraced scumbags. 0.92

00:48:08.880 So that's the story. 0.91

00:48:11.260 Your work is fantastic.

00:48:13.120 You're doing cutting-edge stuff at Foundation for Freedom Online.

00:48:15.900 Tell the audience where they can read more about this and pieces you have coming up and how they can follow you and what you're up to.

00:48:24.280 Sure.

00:48:24.880 Well, thanks.

00:48:25.560 You know, it's a great job if you can get it, the gig that Renee has. 0.99

00:48:29.100 But you can follow me online at MikeBenzCyberOnX, FoundationForFreedomOnline.com, and look forward to talking to you soon.

00:48:36.300 Awesome.

00:48:36.860 Thank you so much.

00:48:39.560 Well, that's a wrap for us today.

00:48:41.620 I'm Darren Beattie filling in for Jack Posobiec in the Human Events Revolver News Collab.

00:48:47.760 Have a great day, and thanks so much for joining us.

Human Events Daily with Jack Posobiec - November 06, 2023

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