Human Events Daily with Jack Posobiec - EPISODE 600： THE GEN Z ABORTION ARMY

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00:00:30.000 This is what happens when the fourth turning meets fifth generation warfare.

00:00:40.440 A commentator, international social media sensation, and former Navy intelligence veteran.

00:00:47.160 This is Human Events with your host, Jack Posobiec.

00:00:50.080 Deliver us from evil.

00:00:51.620 Despite Biden's unpopularity, despite the concerns about the economy,

00:00:55.740 you saw Democrats beat Republicans in solidly Republican states.

00:01:00.140 Kentucky, Ohio, and in key battleground states.

00:01:03.440 There was a key race in Pennsylvania.

00:01:04.980 So this is abortion in these races was overwhelming the issue. 0.96

00:01:09.840 The arrest of Soheib Abuayyash.

00:01:12.880 He is a 20-year-old Jordanian-Palestinian who was there in Texas.

00:01:16.380 He had been in the country illegally.

00:01:18.240 He was illegally in possession of a firearm.

00:01:20.360 He has allegedly been in direct contact with others who share a radical mindset.

00:01:24.780 The charges against him further relish he's been conducting physical training and has trained

00:01:29.100 with weapons to possibly commit an attack.

00:01:31.740 The prime minister has also said definitively,

00:01:34.940 no ceasefire unless there is a return of all hostages.

00:01:40.260 Is that a reasonable position that he's taken?

00:01:42.520 You'll have to talk to the prime minister.

00:01:44.340 Again, we're not going to characterize or armchair quarterback everything he's saying.

00:01:47.900 And we still believe that a general ceasefire is not appropriate at this time.

00:01:51.880 What is true here is that every single one of them

00:01:56.000 has not acknowledged the fact that Palestinians are dying in the tens of thousands.

00:02:01.840 My colleagues are blatantly attempting to silence

00:02:04.500 the only Palestinian-American representative right here.

00:02:07.920 And let me tell you, it's not surprising because this place

00:02:10.540 is where 1,700 members of Congress, this elected body, enslaved black people.

00:02:15.660 Ivanka Trump is testifying in the sprawling New York fraud case

00:02:19.740 against her father's business empire.

00:02:21.720 And unlike her father and brothers, she is not a defendant in this case.

00:02:26.260 A huge explosion at a chemical plant.

00:02:28.980 People who live within five miles of that explosion in Shepard,

00:02:32.980 a city north of Houston, are being told to shelter in place.

00:02:37.020 But in Ohio, we have the legalization of recreational marijuana,

00:02:40.220 the 24th state to do that.

00:02:41.800 Yes, on issue one, we'll pass, putting the right to abortion 0.99

00:02:44.960 in the state constitution in Ohio.

00:02:50.500 Hi, everyone.

00:02:51.500 This is Evita Duffy filling in for Jack Posobiec.

00:02:54.960 Yesterday, Ohio voted on issue one.

00:02:58.240 Did not go well for the pro-life movement.

00:03:00.400 What's really interesting is that exit polls found or indicated,

00:03:06.240 are indicating that 71% of unmarried women voted to enshrine abortion

00:03:12.660 in the Ohio state constitution.

00:03:14.960 They were followed by 64% of unmarried men,

00:03:18.880 but there's almost a 10% gap between these two groups.

00:03:23.620 Young women are carrying the torch for the bloody abortion movement in America.

00:03:31.480 It's a really interesting thing to think about.

00:03:33.900 Why is that?

00:03:35.480 Young women are the type of people who will post, 1.00

00:03:38.780 insert oppressed group on their Instagram.

00:03:41.440 They post black squares when the BLM riots were coming about.

00:03:45.580 They have choose peace, not love on their bumper stickers.

00:03:48.640 These are people that want to be compassionate and good to others,

00:03:53.660 and yet they are the most strident supporters

00:03:56.820 of really the greatest stain on America,

00:04:00.660 which is abortion, which is the killing of innocent children.

00:04:05.460 The hatred that is coming from the pro-abortion movement

00:04:08.400 and specifically from young women is rooted in feminism. 0.98

00:04:13.180 Feminism is a really hateful ideology. 1.00

00:04:16.880 Just last week, a young woman, former Disney star, 0.96

00:04:22.340 her name is Sabrina Carpenter,

00:04:23.680 she posted a music video for her new song, Feather,

00:04:28.000 where it literally showcases the killing of men, 1.00

00:04:31.680 because all men are pigs. 1.00

00:04:33.260 They're sexist pigs, right, who want to oppress women, 1.00

00:04:37.280 and so they deserve to die, 1.00

00:04:38.700 is essentially the message of this disturbing video. 0.99

00:04:41.060 You should go on YouTube and watch it.

00:04:42.200 But why are women, the poster children, young women, 1.00

00:04:47.260 for these bloody, violent ideological ideations in our country,

00:04:54.620 whether that be abortion, whether that be man-hating,

00:04:58.080 why are they susceptible to this?

00:04:59.660 And what are Republicans doing to reach out to them?

00:05:02.040 A lot of this is promulgating off of TikTok and Instagram,

00:05:05.100 where Democrats have a complete monopoly

00:05:07.440 over young people in general, but specifically young women

00:05:10.500 who spend exorbitant amount of time on social media.

00:05:14.280 Some polls indicate that it's women 18 to 25,

00:05:17.860 over eight hours a day, they're on their phone scrolling.

00:05:21.420 What are Republicans doing to reach out to them,

00:05:23.600 not only in an electoral way, which is important,

00:05:26.660 but also on a spiritual and emotional level?

00:05:29.440 Because Democrats, like I said, have a monopoly on them,

00:05:32.380 and it's not good for them.

00:05:33.940 Women aren't happy. 1.00

00:05:34.620 This demographic of women, unmarried, young, single women,

00:05:40.380 is not only one of the least happy demographics in America, 0.95

00:05:43.960 also one of the most mentally ill demographics.

00:05:47.340 There's a problem facing all young people, 0.98

00:05:49.260 but especially young women, and it's rooted in feminism. 1.00

00:05:52.980 And how do we oppose it is the question,

00:05:55.440 the questions that we're going to be answering today on the show.

00:05:58.620 I'm going to be talking with Pichy Keenan, with Katie Faust,

00:06:01.620 about everything that's happening in America,

00:06:03.820 and how we are going to combat it as a culture.

00:06:07.800 Things are going to get really difficult for us in the future

00:06:11.180 if we aren't able to address young women in America.

00:06:14.720 These are the future of our countries, our future mothers,

00:06:17.120 future daughters, future grandmothers.

00:06:19.080 It's important.

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00:06:41.160 Joining me now is Federalist senior contributor Pichy Keenan,

00:06:59.980 who is also the author of Domestic Extremists,

00:07:03.040 A Practical Guide to Winning the Culture War, 0.61

00:07:05.100 which is why she is going to be a perfect guest

00:07:08.120 to talk about what is happening to young women in America.

00:07:11.600 What can we do to reach out to them on the right,

00:07:14.780 on an electoral level, but also on a spiritual and emotional level?

00:07:18.140 Pichy, so great to have you here.

00:07:20.860 I'm just going to kick that question off to you.

00:07:22.900 You saw the exit polls.

00:07:24.500 You saw how this giant block of unmarried women, 1.00

00:07:29.340 most of them probably young,

00:07:30.960 voted to enshrine abortion in the Ohio State Constitution.

00:07:35.300 What are we going to do as conservatives to address this problem?

00:07:38.580 What can we do?

00:07:40.040 Yeah, it's really amazing.

00:07:41.520 I was actually just doing research a few days ago

00:07:44.580 about the difference between married and unmarried women.

00:07:47.380 Look at your poll.

00:07:48.800 Seventy percent in 2020 of unmarried women voted for Democrats,

00:07:53.840 of single women.

00:07:55.500 So, I mean, basically feminism is working as designed. 1.00

00:07:59.600 We are now reaping the fruits of 50 years of this progressive project,

00:08:05.600 and it's really working almost too well

00:08:07.680 because we're actually running out of people.

00:08:10.120 We're not making enough babies.

00:08:11.320 I mean, they're going to kind of go extinct over time.

00:08:13.980 But right now, this is just a huge victory lap for them.

00:08:17.160 So, feminists take a bow. 1.00

00:08:18.780 Yeah, absolutely.

00:08:21.840 So, I've talked about this before.

00:08:23.600 I think I mentioned on the last show, last Friday,

00:08:26.540 there's a lot of debate about where should Republicans be

00:08:30.620 when we're talking about reaching out to young people.

00:08:33.240 And there's been a big shunning of TikTok

00:08:35.120 because TikTok has the CCP influence, right?

00:08:38.920 And there's a fear of that.

00:08:41.020 But also, the Democrats have a monopoly on TikTok.

00:08:43.440 They have a monopoly on these social media platforms

00:08:46.460 where young people are consuming all of their news.

00:08:50.620 I mean, I said in the intro that it's eight hours or more a day

00:08:55.280 that they're spending online.

00:08:56.360 They're not being influenced by their family

00:08:58.200 or their church community.

00:08:59.620 It's all coming from their phones.

00:09:01.400 Should Republicans be on TikTok?

00:09:04.180 Is there a way that we can be on social media

00:09:06.940 and have the same kind of messaging that the left does?

00:09:10.040 Well, it's so funny because there's such a disconnect

00:09:14.740 between young women and young men on the internet.

00:09:17.820 Young men seem to be becoming more red-pilled. 0.72

00:09:21.360 They become more conservative the more they're on social media

00:09:24.480 because there's so many, you know, right-wing influencers,

00:09:28.140 young men tweeting, and I guess on TikTok and social media

00:09:32.140 that kind of offers young men an alternative

00:09:34.680 to the kind of feminized culture that they're being offered

00:09:38.720 at school and college classrooms, you know,

00:09:41.300 they already feel sort of ostracized.

00:09:43.400 And so they can go online and they can find other young men

00:09:45.840 who are just like them, who are like,

00:09:47.180 no, it's okay to be a guy.

00:09:49.020 It's okay to be a straight man in America.

00:09:51.960 Like, you're not alone.

00:09:53.680 But for women, it seems to be the exact opposite. 0.97

00:09:55.760 The more time you spend on social media,

00:09:57.880 the more left-wing you become.

00:10:00.080 And the images and the influencers are just so appealing,

00:10:04.320 and young women just are different. 1.00

00:10:05.880 You know, I was a young woman, and I was extremely influenced

00:10:09.200 by the culture, by MTV, by Madonna, by all, you know, the 1980s,

00:10:13.740 all the young women who looked pretty and looked cute

00:10:17.420 and they were popular.

00:10:18.380 And that is really what's driving a young woman.

00:10:20.440 I mean, the pressure to be, to fit in is so strong among women

00:10:24.900 to, you know, be part of the sisterhood,

00:10:27.300 be part of your sorority, to not be ostracized.

00:10:30.480 For young men, they are not quite as sensitive to that.

00:10:34.280 So I think that's where it starts, that young women just, 1.00

00:10:37.880 you know, the worst thing you can be,

00:10:39.380 if you're a young woman in your 20s,

00:10:40.900 is to be like a social pariah, is to be an outcast.

00:10:44.160 I mean, that's just social death.

00:10:46.100 And that is what I think women are trying to avoid. 1.00

00:10:48.580 So, you know, do all of them agree with everything

00:10:50.840 the feminists are offering? 1.00

00:10:52.100 I don't know.

00:10:53.280 But they can't ever show that they disagree

00:10:56.360 because then they're out.

00:10:57.680 And they don't go to the parties where there might be cute guys

00:11:00.480 and they won't look cool on the videos.

00:11:02.560 So there's just so much social pressure.

00:11:04.740 Now, should Republicans go on TikTok?

00:11:07.500 Like, just that combination is so cringe to me.

00:11:11.040 And that's the problem, really, is the Republican Party,

00:11:14.660 when you just say the brand, it's so unappealing.

00:11:18.000 And I think it's unappealing to everyone.

00:11:21.800 You know, it just sounds like someplace you don't want to go.

00:11:25.140 There's nothing cool happening in the Republican Party

00:11:27.920 that any, you know, 23-year-old woman would be attracted to.

00:11:32.300 And so I don't really know how.

00:11:33.500 That's sort of an intractable problem.

00:11:35.080 Like, I don't know how much TikTok they could even do.

00:11:38.280 I think the more they were on TikTok,

00:11:40.300 the fewer women would like them. 0.97

00:11:44.140 Yeah, so it's so interesting.

00:11:45.860 I wasn't in college too long ago.

00:11:47.820 I graduated in 2022.

00:11:49.360 And a lot of this is stemming from

00:11:51.840 sex without consequences culture, right?

00:11:54.220 So they think that in order to have freedom

00:11:57.040 and reproductive freedom specifically,

00:12:00.680 abortion is essential. 1.00

00:12:02.200 And they have tied everything about themselves

00:12:05.880 really to this issue

00:12:07.320 because they want the freedom to really sleep around

00:12:09.800 because feminism has told them that 0.99

00:12:11.260 sex has the same impact on men and women.

00:12:15.800 And of course, we know that that's not true.

00:12:17.840 Can you speak a little bit to that, Peachy?

00:12:20.420 Yeah, exactly.

00:12:21.520 Feminism has promised them liberation.

00:12:23.740 Liberation from all the guardrails that were in place

00:12:26.740 to keep women under control, 0.99

00:12:30.320 i.e. acting like women. 1.00

00:12:32.320 But now they want women to act like men, 0.84

00:12:34.100 which means basically full promiscuity,

00:12:36.340 however many partners you want,

00:12:38.020 no consequences, it's fine. 0.97

00:12:40.080 You can just have sex exactly like a man. 0.99

00:12:42.700 But again, women are totally different than men. 0.98

00:12:45.160 There is an emotional component.

00:12:46.460 And there's heartbreak and all these other consequences

00:12:49.240 that women deal with that just men don't 0.98

00:12:51.580 just because we are biologically and emotionally different.

00:12:56.080 So when women are sold this myth 0.97

00:12:58.660 that you can just have sex with whoever 0.95

00:13:01.780 and there's no consequences, 0.90

00:13:03.460 you are cutting yourself off from your internal,

00:13:07.340 your natural state,

00:13:08.720 which requires women biologically 1.00

00:13:11.280 to be more prudent on who they are intimate with.

00:13:15.680 There are biological consequences.

00:13:17.600 You have to be more careful just as a woman 1.00

00:13:19.600 in the millennia of humanity.

00:13:22.660 And reproductive technology, 0.98

00:13:24.280 the birth control pill,

00:13:25.140 and abortion has wiped that all away.

00:13:27.340 And the repercussions are stark.

00:13:29.800 And there's been now all these studies

00:13:31.620 that have come out, you know,

00:13:33.000 30, 40 years later about the birth control pill,

00:13:35.780 how it decreases women's libido. 0.99

00:13:37.600 It makes them depressed.

00:13:38.620 It makes them anxious.

00:13:40.180 It even, I read somewhere that it turns women asexual 1.00

00:13:42.900 and turns them into lesbians. 1.00

00:13:45.100 I mean, it's wreaking havoc in young women, 1.00

00:13:47.260 but it's sold as promiscuity.

00:13:49.080 But the reason women can't stop being promiscuous, 1.00

00:13:52.800 they couldn't suddenly put on their Tinder profile,

00:13:55.160 you know, I'm chaste or I'm saving myself.

00:13:57.560 I don't want to just have a hookup.

00:13:59.200 I want like real love, true love.

00:14:01.120 Because then you, again, the social pressure,

00:14:03.440 you lose access to this whole host of men

00:14:05.960 who just want to, you know, hook up with you.

00:14:10.020 They aren't looking for a wife.

00:14:11.800 And so a woman who chooses to beat more chaste 1.00

00:14:14.240 to maybe save herself from marriage 0.99

00:14:16.020 or at least limit her partners to some low number

00:14:18.860 is going to lose out on all this social fun,

00:14:22.760 all these, she can't tell her friends at brunch

00:14:25.960 about the cute guy she hooked up with.

00:14:27.620 You're taking yourself out of that world.

00:14:30.380 And it's such an incredible culture shift

00:14:33.300 and changing of your mindset that these women, 1.00

00:14:36.660 you can't do it really on your own.

00:14:38.420 I mean, you really need to kind of be,

00:14:40.540 to either like hit rock bottom and realize,

00:14:43.620 oh no, I have to do something with my life.

00:14:45.480 I've had my heart broken, you know, so many times

00:14:47.600 and I'm lonely and I want children.

00:14:49.820 What do I do here?

00:14:50.900 And kind of have that awakening.

00:14:52.140 Or you have to meet the right guy

00:14:54.040 and just fall madly in love and he loves you

00:14:55.980 and you're taken out of that like horrible

00:14:57.700 merry-go-round of dating.

00:14:59.640 And otherwise, you're just going to keep going.

00:15:01.980 I wrote about in my book,

00:15:03.140 the fact that on, you know,

00:15:04.280 Tinder just had its 10 year anniversary last year.

00:15:06.560 And there are women who downloaded Tinder day one 1.00

00:15:09.220 and 10 years later are still on Tinder.

00:15:12.160 And I mean, that is not a success story.

00:15:13.920 It's so sad.

00:15:16.840 Everything that you've just described is so sad.

00:15:19.560 The future in the world that they say is ideal for women 1.00

00:15:22.200 is so detrimental to them, just mental health-wise.

00:15:27.080 If you have a bunch of different sexual partners, right?

00:15:29.860 That's a very sad thing.

00:15:31.340 It has an emotional impact on women 1.00

00:15:33.340 who sex means different things to women than it does men.

00:15:36.500 And so it's very impactful.

00:15:38.520 But then it's also waiting for marriage and children

00:15:40.920 until you've already established your career.

00:15:43.200 Well, if you're waiting for so long, right?

00:15:46.180 Sometimes women reach the point where they never get married 1.00

00:15:48.620 or they get married, but they have to freeze their eggs.

00:15:51.020 And then they're mothers, but they're older mothers. 0.99

00:15:53.180 And that becomes really difficult too with its own problems.

00:15:55.740 There's a lot of sadness, I think,

00:15:58.100 in what the left is presenting young women.

00:16:01.320 And yet they'll fight for it tooth and nail.

00:16:05.000 They're going to the polls.

00:16:06.420 They're voting with the Democrats.

00:16:08.420 And yet the Democrats are offering really only misery

00:16:11.820 for so many women.

00:16:15.060 Peachy, do you have any advice for young women 0.97

00:16:18.100 who are being inculcated with this?

00:16:20.760 Eight hours a day, they're heading off into colleges

00:16:23.120 where the sex with no consequences lie starts.

00:16:26.140 What do you have to say to these young women

00:16:27.700 before they head off into that culture?

00:16:29.700 I mean, you hope that some of them will have maybe

00:16:35.040 a bad experience that will wake them up.

00:16:37.760 They get hurt so badly or they haven't intended pregnancy 0.99

00:16:41.600 or they feel so lonely.

00:16:43.740 They don't know how to meet someone.

00:16:44.940 They're sick of it.

00:16:45.840 That is really what it takes to kind of wake someone up.

00:16:48.560 Otherwise, they're just going to go through college.

00:16:50.760 And when they come out the other end,

00:16:52.300 they're going to be sort of a fully baked feminist 1.00

00:16:54.420 and ready to engage in 10, 20 more years of craziness.

00:17:01.080 It is so sad.

00:17:01.960 You mentioned egg freezing.

00:17:03.320 There's a woman named Bridget.

00:17:05.000 I believe her name is Adams.

00:17:06.620 She was on the cover of Business Week

00:17:08.160 about 10 years ago as this hero.

00:17:11.820 She froze her eggs.

00:17:12.840 And the headline was freeze your eggs, free your career.

00:17:16.860 And so she froze her eggs at age 38 or something

00:17:19.840 because she was single.

00:17:20.780 At age 45, she defrosted her eggs.

00:17:24.920 Half of them were abnormal.

00:17:26.800 She only was able to implant one embryo and that one failed.

00:17:31.280 And when she got the news that she would never be

00:17:33.500 a biological mother, she had a nervous breakdown.

00:17:36.600 You know, she started screaming. 0.54

00:17:38.320 And it's just so sad.

00:17:39.780 And then she ended up having a baby in her late 40s

00:17:41.940 with a donor egg and donor sperm.

00:17:44.520 So the whole myth, just expose the whole myth

00:17:46.960 of that reproductive technology can save you, can free you. 1.00

00:17:50.440 No, it can't.

00:17:51.560 It will ruin your life.

00:17:53.140 But the consequences stories don't get out there.

00:17:55.760 You only see the victorious stories, the heroic stories

00:17:58.300 when they pitch egg freezing as this great thing.

00:18:00.740 You don't see the repercussions.

00:18:02.340 And I think maybe we can do a better job

00:18:03.860 of showing the horror stories of feminism.

00:18:06.280 Just like detransitioner stories 1.00

00:18:07.920 really expose the mythology behind transgender ideology.

00:18:12.080 Maybe we can show the consequences of feminism. 1.00

00:18:16.340 It's a really, a bloody, a very sad movement

00:18:22.040 that the left is presenting to women.

00:18:25.340 Even just the reality of what abortion is, right?

00:18:28.120 I mean, there are so many women who don't even know. 1.00

00:18:30.220 So I think this has been a wonderful conversation.

00:18:32.720 Peachy, where can people go to follow you?

00:18:34.400 You can follow me on Twitter at Keenan Peachy

00:18:38.000 and my sub-stack, peachykeenan.substack.com.

00:18:41.380 Today, you know, they talk about influences.

00:18:43.800 These are influences.

00:18:45.660 And they're friends of mine.

00:18:48.060 Jack, you're so like, where's Jack?

00:18:50.520 Jack, he's done a great job.

00:18:53.400 Thank you, Jack.

00:18:54.380 Everyone, this is Avita Duffy.

00:18:56.640 We're going to talk a little bit about an ad

00:18:59.080 that just ran in Virginia. 0.85

00:19:00.200 We're going to talk about what's happening more with women,

00:19:04.220 how they voted this last night,

00:19:06.940 but then also how they voted in the midterms,

00:19:08.800 how much abortion has been impacting 0.94

00:19:10.980 all of these elections in the wake of Roe.

00:19:13.420 Let's bring in Katie Faust. 1.00

00:19:15.500 She is going to be a wonderful guest.

00:19:18.160 I'm so happy to have you here, Katie.

00:19:19.460 She's the founder of Them Before Us, 0.97

00:19:21.660 and she is the author of Raising Conservative Kids in a Woke City.

00:19:27.880 Katie, thank you so much for being here.

00:19:30.200 Really good to join you.

00:19:31.660 There's so much happening in the world.

00:19:33.360 And I'll tell you what,

00:19:34.720 there's never been a bigger need for courage and clarity.

00:19:38.140 So I appreciate being able to chat with you

00:19:40.600 about all the happenings.

00:19:42.580 Yeah.

00:19:43.180 So let's talk a little bit about

00:19:44.760 what has happened with young women last night,

00:19:48.720 how they voted,

00:19:49.900 how the abortion issue has impacted

00:19:51.800 all of the elections that happened last night.

00:19:54.660 And then also, if you want to talk about the midterms as well,

00:19:57.300 take it away.

00:19:58.280 Well, you know,

00:20:01.460 I'm not any kind of wise political commentator,

00:20:04.220 but I am very familiar with what is going on in the human realm,

00:20:08.560 both from my advocacy with children's rights

00:20:12.660 in relation to marriage and family work,

00:20:14.640 as a mom who's raising four kids,

00:20:17.200 four teenagers in this insane world,

00:20:19.280 especially this hyper-leftist city of Seattle,

00:20:22.240 but also as a woman who is married to a pastor

00:20:24.940 who does a lot of life-on-life shepherding.

00:20:27.240 There's a lot going on in the world today right now

00:20:29.540 as it relates to all the questions of

00:20:31.380 what does it mean to be human?

00:20:32.940 And I think that we really saw that on display yesterday

00:20:35.900 when it came to issue one in Ohio.

00:20:39.620 And the absolute horrifying and bizarre spectacle

00:20:45.180 of watching young women cheering, 0.90

00:20:48.820 crying over their ability to murder their own unborn babies.

00:20:54.900 And so really, it's an opportunity for us to say,

00:20:57.680 what is going on in our culture right now?

00:21:00.600 What is going on with our perspective

00:21:02.600 of what it means to be human?

00:21:04.920 And how we're addressing all of those different issues

00:21:07.460 and then how we're communicating those truths

00:21:09.760 to the next generation.

00:21:11.400 It's very, very clear that there is a lot of work to be done.

00:21:16.440 Yeah.

00:21:17.460 Yeah, you mentioned what it means to be human.

00:21:20.600 And I know that you've done a lot of work

00:21:23.320 on this transhumanist movement.

00:21:26.540 And all of these things are really intimately connected.

00:21:29.760 I mean, the life issue,

00:21:31.180 it's a complete disrespect, right,

00:21:33.080 for not just human life,

00:21:34.880 but also the most innocent life

00:21:36.560 that exists on Earth, right?

00:21:39.100 An unborn child.

00:21:40.360 But you're also seeing a different emergence, right?

00:21:43.360 In the world of Elon Musk with Neuralink

00:21:46.620 and Apple just releasing this,

00:21:50.680 I forget what their names are,

00:21:51.880 but they're these headsets, right?

00:21:53.000 Where you can have an immersive experience

00:21:54.860 in a digital world, right?

00:21:56.500 Everything is virtual.

00:21:57.580 And suddenly people aren't able to interact

00:22:00.920 as human beings on top of not really respecting human life

00:22:05.460 as it is.

00:22:06.580 Can you talk a little bit about what we're facing

00:22:09.540 on a human level

00:22:11.460 and the kind of impact that the tech world

00:22:14.720 is having on our ability to perceive one another

00:22:19.160 and care for one another as people?

00:22:21.060 Yeah, and I mean, ultimately,

00:22:24.020 all of this comes down to your worldview.

00:22:26.320 All of this comes down to, honestly, theological questions.

00:22:29.800 You don't know,

00:22:30.600 we're not going to be able to know

00:22:31.680 what the answer is about things like abortion or IVF

00:22:34.760 or all of the transhumanist technologies

00:22:38.280 that are coming down the pipe,

00:22:39.460 unless we first know what humans are for,

00:22:41.560 who we are, when life begins,

00:22:44.080 who decides when it ends,

00:22:45.740 what are the proper uses of these technologies

00:22:47.940 are not questions that you can be answered

00:22:49.340 until you first have a firm grasp

00:22:51.040 on what it means to be human.

00:22:53.120 And so we actually have quite a bit of work to be done.

00:22:55.780 I would say, you know,

00:22:56.840 to the philosophers

00:22:57.680 and to the Christian scholars that are out there,

00:22:59.760 this is your moment.

00:23:00.980 This is your moment to give a proper understanding

00:23:04.060 of the human person

00:23:05.460 because every major cultural battle

00:23:07.560 that we are facing today,

00:23:08.780 from abortion to reproductive technologies

00:23:11.240 to our interactions with screens

00:23:14.740 to all these different virtual reality headset world

00:23:18.260 that we're about to step into,

00:23:19.580 all of the ways that we are genetically modifying humans,

00:23:22.560 you know, even before they are born,

00:23:25.080 even just at the cellular level in a lot of ways.

00:23:28.840 Really, first, we have to have

00:23:30.240 the theological underpinnings

00:23:31.940 to even know what humans are

00:23:34.000 before we can know

00:23:34.940 what technology applications are permissible.

00:23:38.700 Ultimately, this is a battle of worldview.

00:23:41.120 And we are really, in so many ways,

00:23:43.440 at a civilizational moment.

00:23:45.220 And I really, the reality is that

00:23:48.120 only the Christian worldview

00:23:49.840 has the scaffolding to sustain

00:23:52.100 a human dignifying approach

00:23:54.500 and answer and response

00:23:56.040 to all of these emerging technologies.

00:23:58.680 So it is the time

00:24:00.120 for Christians to be clear 0.74

00:24:01.640 and courageous

00:24:02.560 about who we are as made in the image of God

00:24:05.200 and all of the rights and protections

00:24:07.120 that need to be extended,

00:24:08.980 especially to the most vulnerable

00:24:11.000 in light of all of these new emerging

00:24:13.260 technological innovations and threats.

00:24:16.720 I agree with you that Christianity

00:24:19.260 is essential to rebuking all of this,

00:24:22.320 to standing up against it.

00:24:23.540 The problem that we have right now is,

00:24:25.660 yeah, there are great Christian families,

00:24:27.180 I'm sure, like yours, Katie,

00:24:28.880 or like the one that I was raised in.

00:24:30.960 But most people are, I mean, Gen Z specifically,

00:24:34.140 they're the most irreligious generation to date.

00:24:36.740 You have most kids, right?

00:24:38.800 They don't go to religious school,

00:24:40.120 Christian schools, Catholic schools.

00:24:41.420 They go to public schools

00:24:43.340 where they get social-emotional learning

00:24:44.900 and they might have a transgender teacher

00:24:47.220 and they're taught to be confused

00:24:49.520 about basic biology

00:24:51.060 and are inculcated really into cultural Marxism

00:24:54.580 from the onset.

00:24:56.260 And then they go on to college, right?

00:24:57.680 And things get even worse

00:24:58.940 and they have a critical theory department

00:25:01.460 instituted in their colleges.

00:25:03.600 And of course, colleges used to be religious now,

00:25:05.980 but most of them aren't.

00:25:07.460 And even the ones that are religious 0.91

00:25:08.760 are hardly religious at all.

00:25:10.640 I'm thinking of like Loyola in Chicago

00:25:13.360 and California, religious in name only, right?

00:25:16.260 And so we have our institutions collapsing

00:25:20.140 when it comes to the Christian values

00:25:23.000 that our country was founded on.

00:25:24.860 How can we stand up against that?

00:25:28.020 What can conservatives do

00:25:29.860 besides just in their own home,

00:25:31.400 which is essential, right?

00:25:32.780 But to also promote Christianity 0.96

00:25:35.340 in a Christian culture

00:25:36.520 in an America that seems so godless?

00:25:40.980 Well, there's a few things.

00:25:42.620 First of all, we cannot abandon or forsake

00:25:45.700 or deny the power of the family.

00:25:48.860 It is the one institution.

00:25:50.780 I mean, when you look at business,

00:25:52.360 entertainment, education, academia,

00:25:54.680 the only institution that hasn't been captured is yours,

00:25:58.000 your institution, your family.

00:25:59.460 And that is why the left is relentless

00:26:02.000 in their pursuit and the destruction

00:26:03.960 of this critical little platoon

00:26:06.840 of mother and father raising their children together.

00:26:10.240 And why is it that they are after parental rights?

00:26:12.520 Because it is the greatest obstacle

00:26:14.760 to advancing their woke ideology.

00:26:17.420 There is so much power in parenting,

00:26:19.120 so much more power in parenting

00:26:20.400 than there is in politics

00:26:22.040 when it comes to actual cultural transformation.

00:26:25.100 And that is one reason why we wrote our latest book,

00:26:28.080 Raising Conservative Kids in a Woke City.

00:26:30.220 We're doing it with our kids

00:26:31.660 in a hyper-liberal environment,

00:26:33.780 with them largely going to public schools.

00:26:35.760 And our kids can stand against the lies.

00:26:38.140 They can refute their teachers when needed.

00:26:40.300 They can stand alone if necessary.

00:26:42.480 And I'll tell you what,

00:26:43.960 they are opening the eyes

00:26:45.860 of the people around them as a result.

00:26:47.520 But there's other things that we need to do as well,

00:26:50.060 in addition to just parenting our own kids,

00:26:52.080 regardless of whether we're in a red state

00:26:53.720 or a blue state home school,

00:26:55.220 private school, public school,

00:26:56.340 we actually need to retake the institutions.

00:26:59.940 And for way too long,

00:27:00.960 Christians and conservatives have hung back, 0.65

00:27:03.380 have handed over these institutions

00:27:05.720 for leftist domination.

00:27:08.120 Quick story.

00:27:08.800 I was at the ARC conference in London last week,

00:27:12.320 Jordan Peterson's new project.

00:27:13.720 I'm on the advisory board for it.

00:27:15.520 And Jonathan Paggio asked a question

00:27:17.380 of all these 1,500 people from 72 countries

00:27:20.140 who were doing work to restore human flourishing

00:27:22.600 for responsible governance,

00:27:24.620 for reducing the administrative state,

00:27:26.960 for using our resources wisely

00:27:29.160 and stewarding climate appropriately.

00:27:31.280 And he said, raise your hand

00:27:32.680 if you are a part of an organized formal religion.

00:27:36.300 95% of the people in that room

00:27:39.100 said we're religious.

00:27:41.680 And what they meant is we're Christians or Jews.

00:27:44.000 And then he sheepishly said,

00:27:45.140 well, how many are atheists?

00:27:46.220 And only about 25 people total.

00:27:47.940 Do you understand right now

00:27:49.760 that it's already happening?

00:27:51.900 Christians are already doing the hard work

00:27:54.820 of retaking institutions,

00:27:56.500 of showing the way forward

00:27:57.960 on all of the major civilizational issues

00:28:00.400 that we are facing.

00:28:02.080 Don't be discouraged.

00:28:03.640 Take heart.

00:28:05.040 Be courageous.

00:28:06.260 Work for I am with you, says the Lord.

00:28:08.740 And see where is that intersection

00:28:10.500 between what the world needs

00:28:11.820 and what God is calling you to.

00:28:14.020 And I really think in a few generations,

00:28:16.180 things are going to look very different.

00:28:17.500 That is very heartening to hear.

00:28:22.400 You know, as somebody who grew up

00:28:23.600 in a liberal city for elementary school,

00:28:26.840 had a little bit of a reprieve in high school

00:28:28.640 because I changed schools.

00:28:29.660 But then in college, I went to school in Chicago,

00:28:32.000 which is a very left-wing university.

00:28:34.520 Sometimes it feels really isolating for people,

00:28:36.920 especially ones that live in liberal cities

00:28:39.580 like you do,

00:28:40.640 and are just bombarded with Marxist,

00:28:44.780 cultural Marxist ideology all the time,

00:28:46.700 constantly feeling like they're alone

00:28:48.640 in their beliefs and their values.

00:28:51.020 And to see that there are like-minded people

00:28:53.920 who are actually fighting things

00:28:55.340 is a really heartening, very wonderful thing.

00:28:58.200 Katie, can you tell us where people can go to follow you

00:29:01.000 and where we can learn more about the work

00:29:03.400 that you're doing in your foundation?

00:29:06.020 Yeah.

00:29:06.760 thembeforeus.com is the place to figure out

00:29:08.740 what we're doing related to restoring the social fabric

00:29:11.840 in regards to marriage and family.

00:29:14.320 That is, we are doing, it's a global movement,

00:29:18.080 and we will bring this cultural conversation

00:29:20.840 to every country of the world.

00:29:23.420 I'm also on Twitter at advo underscore Katie,

00:29:27.460 where you get all my opinions,

00:29:28.640 and Raising Conservative Kids in a Woke City

00:29:30.320 can be purchased at any place that sells books.

00:29:33.940 That's wonderful.

00:29:35.020 Katie, it's been so great to talk to you.

00:29:36.440 I'm so happy that we were able to have this conversation

00:29:39.600 because sometimes when you come out of elections,

00:29:42.100 like we did last night,

00:29:43.640 and you just feel down on yourself.

00:29:46.160 I felt like that way at the midterms,

00:29:47.980 it felt like we're losing our country.

00:29:49.860 It feels like there's no hope

00:29:51.580 and that many of us just have nowhere to look to.

00:29:56.060 And so to know that there are like-minded people

00:29:58.640 who are fighting and that things are going to

00:30:00.680 potentially be turning up is a really positive thing.

00:30:02.820 Yeah, we have a lot of reasons to be optimistic.

00:30:07.200 We are the party of life and protection

00:30:09.400 and re-knitting together the social fabric,

00:30:13.400 and that will prevail.

00:30:15.560 Yes, yes.

00:30:17.540 So as we're moving on,

00:30:19.800 we're going to be transitioning to a CISA conversation,

00:30:23.060 another one about government censorship

00:30:24.960 with John Daniel Davidson.

00:30:27.300 It's going to be an interesting conversation, I think,

00:30:29.640 where we're going to really get into the authoritarianism

00:30:32.980 that we've been seeing in the Twitter files

00:30:34.500 over the last several months,

00:30:36.520 but really coming into a culmination a couple days ago

00:30:39.160 when we got way more information about

00:30:40.660 what was censored and who was censored,

00:30:43.460 and John was one of them.

00:30:44.500 So I'm really excited for this conversation.

00:30:45.880 Voting News, women all over Virginia

00:30:51.460 are standing up for freedom,

00:30:53.460 voting to stop Glenn Youngkin

00:30:55.320 and the Virginia legislature from banning abortion.

00:30:58.660 Vote!

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00:31:01.960 Look what you made us do.

00:31:04.000 Look what you made us do.

00:31:05.800 The only thing stopping them from banning abortion 0.95

00:31:08.940 is you.

00:31:10.340 Vote Democrat.

00:31:11.440 Your legislative leaders matter.

00:31:13.220 This election, keep yourself in power.

00:31:15.880 Vote!

00:31:21.740 So the pro-abortion movement just took over Barbie, I guess,

00:31:25.980 and they just made it a girl-boss ad for abortion 1.00

00:31:29.920 and for, you know, this anti-Roe v. Wade movement

00:31:34.180 that we've been seeing emerge in the post-Roe era.

00:31:38.320 This is really similar to a lot of the stuff

00:31:40.280 that I'm seeing on TikTok.

00:31:41.560 My next guest, John, does not like TikTok.

00:31:44.000 Nobody at the Federalist staff does except for me,

00:31:45.960 but I'm on it.

00:31:46.940 And I'll tell you that the rhetoric

00:31:48.320 is just like that ad you saw.

00:31:51.200 People, young women, really have made the abortion issue

00:31:55.580 a freedom issue, a reproductive rights issue. 0.55

00:31:59.340 And it's become a very homogenous,

00:32:02.320 like I said, very girl-boss issue.

00:32:07.220 And the rhetoric is very similar.

00:32:08.840 John, I want to bring you in here

00:32:10.480 and talk a little bit about what you thought of that ad,

00:32:14.100 what you thought of issue one,

00:32:16.320 of women carrying the torch for issue one.

00:32:19.820 And also, you know, they voted very high numbers

00:32:23.360 for Democrats in the last midterms as well.

00:32:25.420 What do you make of all of this?

00:32:27.840 And that ad specifically, and the tone of that ad?

00:32:32.580 Well, it's easy to laugh at that kind of thing.

00:32:36.780 And it's very cartoonish.

00:32:39.040 It's very much, as you say, girl-boss, Barbie aesthetic.

00:32:43.980 And unfortunately, though,

00:32:45.620 I think that's what the discourse

00:32:47.600 has kind of devolved into.

00:32:49.160 And I think, really, this is the real legacy of Roe.

00:32:54.360 In addition, obviously, to the millions and millions

00:32:57.500 of lives that have been lost because of abortion,

00:33:01.220 thanks to Roe,

00:33:02.440 the legacy of Roe in our political discourse

00:33:05.780 has been to sort of distill the abortion question

00:33:09.360 down to a crude kind of girl-boss feminism issue 0.99

00:33:16.080 in which if you're against abortion

00:33:19.760 or you raise questions about abortion

00:33:21.440 or you want to talk about, you know,

00:33:24.280 personhood of the unborn or morality

00:33:26.780 or anything like that,

00:33:28.180 you're like this sort of like handmaiden's tail 0.97

00:33:30.960 oppressor of women.

00:33:32.680 And if you stand up against that,

00:33:35.340 you're like this empowered girl-boss

00:33:36.960 who's like taking charge of the country

00:33:38.880 and taking charge of your future.

00:33:42.560 I will say that's one legacy of Roe.

00:33:44.600 And I think that we kind of saw that play out

00:33:47.880 in the elections last night

00:33:49.740 and we saw it play out.

00:33:51.000 We've seen it play out elsewhere.

00:33:52.800 And certainly the money that goes into ads like this

00:33:55.500 is really pushing that narrative hard

00:33:57.200 and it has been successful electorally so far.

00:34:02.900 Yeah, what bothers me a lot about all of this, right,

00:34:06.480 is it's centered in compassion for women, right,

00:34:10.360 women's rights, women's issues,

00:34:11.860 saying that we want to help women.

00:34:14.020 The pro-lifers just want to make them have their babies 1.00

00:34:16.580 and then, you know, they drop them on their butts 0.99

00:34:20.080 and it's all over for them, you know, 0.90

00:34:22.080 once the baby's actually born.

00:34:23.920 And the reality is that it's actually the opposite.

00:34:26.960 It's the really uncompassionate thing,

00:34:29.460 the really bloody wrong thing

00:34:31.240 is to kill an innocent, unique human life

00:34:35.040 based on circumstances.

00:34:36.700 But women who are very compassionate

00:34:41.240 and who really want to do what's right, right?

00:34:44.100 I said in the beginning of this show

00:34:45.600 that these are the type of people who will say,

00:34:48.280 you know, I stand with insert oppressed group, right? 0.99

00:34:51.000 Young women do that all the time, right? 1.00

00:34:52.480 They want to be seen as caring and loving.

00:34:56.480 They're really, those good intentions,

00:34:59.000 those good instincts that women have 1.00

00:35:01.460 are being manipulated for something really awful,

00:35:04.460 really bloody by the pro-choice movement,

00:35:07.580 by the left in general, by feminism.

00:35:10.080 John, I asked a couple of my guests this,

00:35:12.240 but I'm really curious what you think.

00:35:14.700 How can we reach out to young people in general

00:35:18.000 who have been manipulated into thinking

00:35:19.760 that abortion is compassionate

00:35:21.620 and that actually it's the pro-lifers

00:35:24.460 who are, you know, not being,

00:35:26.560 not caring about women who are in bad situations?

00:35:30.720 Well, I think that you started to hit on it right there.

00:35:33.820 And that is to come at this idea

00:35:36.100 that abortion is somehow a compassionate 0.86

00:35:38.420 and caring thing

00:35:40.160 and that somehow it's a salutary thing

00:35:43.020 for the women who get abortions

00:35:44.960 and the families that go through that.

00:35:48.260 That's the point to argue.

00:35:50.420 And I think that's a persuasion point

00:35:53.140 in this debate.

00:35:55.280 Because really when you look at studies

00:35:58.840 and when you look at any of it anecdotally,

00:36:01.680 you can see what a destructive force abortion is

00:36:05.300 in society and in the lives of people

00:36:08.100 and families who have had abortions done.

00:36:12.300 So not just the destruction of the unborn life,

00:36:15.000 but of the women as well.

00:36:16.900 And that touches on something else

00:36:18.280 that I think is important to talk about.

00:36:19.760 We talk about the legacy of Roe v. Wade

00:36:22.140 and what its real legacy is going to be.

00:36:24.620 You have many, many women and men in this country

00:36:29.100 who have been complicit in or had abortions

00:36:31.700 over 50 years.

00:36:34.420 And to suddenly have Roe v. Wade overturned

00:36:37.080 and have this issue tossed back to the states

00:36:39.400 and have these kind of political battles now,

00:36:41.600 which were dormant for a long time

00:36:43.000 because politicians could just sort of say,

00:36:45.400 well, I defer to the courts.

00:36:46.520 Well, now you have this sort of moral reckoning,

00:36:50.280 I would say,

00:36:51.320 where you have to make a case

00:36:54.960 to a lot of people

00:36:56.000 who have been involved with abortions

00:36:57.580 and had them or been complicit in them

00:36:59.640 or paid for them

00:37:00.600 and confronting them with the reality

00:37:03.440 that what they've engaged in

00:37:04.800 is morally wrong

00:37:06.440 and in fact a monstrous evil.

00:37:08.620 And so that is a conversation

00:37:10.440 that abortion proponents do not want to have.

00:37:13.820 To come to the knowledge

00:37:15.920 that you have been wrong

00:37:19.080 about something so profound

00:37:21.340 and so fundamental

00:37:22.380 as the taking of an innocent life

00:37:24.580 requires more than kind of the bland sloganeering

00:37:27.960 that we've gotten used to from the GOP

00:37:30.000 and more than the bland sloganeering

00:37:32.080 that even Democrats got used to,

00:37:34.520 you know, decades ago

00:37:35.560 with Bill Clinton's safe, legal and rare.

00:37:37.920 We really have to sort of find a new way

00:37:40.020 to talk about abortion

00:37:41.020 and reframe it not just in moral terms

00:37:44.680 but also in terms of what you mentioned

00:37:46.840 that it's not a compassionate thing.

00:37:49.140 It's not a positive thing in people's lives

00:37:51.120 and we really need to come at that idea

00:37:52.980 that it's something to be celebrated.

00:37:54.800 It's really not.

00:37:56.940 So John, I want to transition here a little bit

00:37:59.460 and these, they don't seem related

00:38:01.500 but these two issues are actually related

00:38:03.540 because the losses that we experienced last night,

00:38:08.400 also during the midterms,

00:38:09.680 this is all related to election integrity

00:38:12.700 and making sure that we have secure elections.

00:38:17.180 We just learned a few days ago

00:38:19.360 that more information about the partnership

00:38:22.300 that our government, specifically the DHS,

00:38:25.060 has had with private entities

00:38:27.060 who then the government outsources censorship

00:38:29.920 on social media,

00:38:31.820 particularly censorship related

00:38:33.860 to the integrity of our elections.

00:38:35.880 And you, John, were one of those people

00:38:38.600 who was censored by the DHS,

00:38:41.880 as a subsidiary to the DHS called CISA,

00:38:44.380 ahead or actually following the 2020 election.

00:38:47.840 Can you, we're going to have,

00:38:48.540 we have a little bit left in this block,

00:38:50.200 we'll talk about it more in a second,

00:38:51.280 but explain a little bit about

00:38:52.400 what you were censored on

00:38:55.760 and what other colleagues of ours

00:38:58.380 were also targeted for.

00:39:00.840 Yeah, specifically, Sean Davis,

00:39:04.180 the Federalist co-founder and CEO,

00:39:07.480 and Molly Hemingway, our editor-in-chief,

00:39:09.480 their Twitter accounts

00:39:10.600 and a number of their tweets

00:39:13.000 immediately following the November 2020 election

00:39:16.000 were censored.

00:39:16.660 And one of those tweets that Sean sent out

00:39:18.420 was tweeting out an article

00:39:19.820 that I had written

00:39:20.560 about some of the irregularities

00:39:22.280 that we saw on election night

00:39:23.580 and the day after the election

00:39:24.740 in places like Wisconsin and Michigan,

00:39:27.100 specifically just calling attention

00:39:29.900 to the fact that there were irregularities

00:39:32.220 and that the irregularities

00:39:34.500 were likely a result of,

00:39:36.360 you know, shenanigans

00:39:38.280 by Democrat-controlled polling places

00:39:41.240 in Democrat-controlled cities

00:39:43.600 like Milwaukee.

00:39:45.720 And so those were the sorts of things,

00:39:48.600 at least, you know,

00:39:50.100 initially right after the election

00:39:51.780 that were being censored.

00:39:53.760 And at the time, you know,

00:39:54.920 we didn't really understand.

00:39:57.300 We didn't really know.

00:39:58.120 And a lot of us were taken by surprise

00:39:59.620 that these tweets and these articles

00:40:01.880 were just being taken down

00:40:03.260 or limited in their reach

00:40:05.040 with very little explanation.

00:40:07.260 Well, now, thanks not only

00:40:09.420 to the Twitter files

00:40:10.680 from earlier this year

00:40:11.780 that sort of exposed

00:40:13.040 this ecosystem of censorship

00:40:14.580 across big tech

00:40:16.220 and the deputization of Twitter

00:40:18.200 by the federal government,

00:40:19.600 including the FBI

00:40:20.240 and the Department of Homeland Security,

00:40:22.100 we now know that the government

00:40:24.200 was really using third parties

00:40:26.900 to lean very heavily

00:40:29.900 on these social media companies

00:40:31.700 to take down these sorts of tweets.

00:40:35.360 This includes not just opinions

00:40:37.160 or like takes,

00:40:38.300 but news stories

00:40:39.480 and other commentary

00:40:41.520 and even jokes,

00:40:43.200 as we learned from yesterday's news.

00:40:47.380 Yeah, it's really interesting.

00:40:49.280 The reasons that CISA has said

00:40:53.400 that they're going to censor people,

00:40:55.740 they claim it's because,

00:40:57.320 you know, it has malinformation,

00:40:59.860 which we're going to talk about next time.

00:41:01.120 It's information that's true,

00:41:02.820 but that's inconvenient to the government,

00:41:04.560 and so they censor it.

00:41:05.480 When I'm working long hours,

00:41:11.880 I'm always listening to Human Events

00:41:13.340 with Jack Posobiec.

00:41:15.380 So this was a partnership,

00:41:17.260 I want to make it clear,

00:41:18.420 with the federal government,

00:41:19.780 with the DHS,

00:41:21.320 a Stanford disinformation organization,

00:41:25.600 and it wasn't just federalist staff writers

00:41:28.980 like Sean Davis,

00:41:29.860 Molly Hemingway,

00:41:30.800 an article by John Davidson,

00:41:32.820 who's my guest right now.

00:41:34.520 It was also the host of this show,

00:41:36.340 Jack Posobiec,

00:41:37.140 who was censored.

00:41:37.800 It was Charlie Kirk.

00:41:38.960 It was the sitting president

00:41:40.280 of the United States,

00:41:41.580 Donald Trump,

00:41:42.320 who was being censored

00:41:43.500 by the United States government

00:41:45.880 while he was in office.

00:41:47.540 This is an explosive story

00:41:49.880 that says a lot

00:41:51.300 just about how far

00:41:53.200 our federal agencies have devolved,

00:41:55.740 and the way that they clearly

00:41:57.340 do not respect the Constitution,

00:42:01.220 the oath that many of them,

00:42:03.620 you know,

00:42:04.100 took when they got their major positions

00:42:06.700 in these agencies.

00:42:08.000 I think what a lot of people

00:42:10.000 are really thinking about, John,

00:42:12.400 is what do we do, right?

00:42:14.080 Because this is essential.

00:42:16.840 Addressing this censorship is essential.

00:42:19.020 There's a court case,

00:42:20.580 Missouri v. Biden,

00:42:21.340 that's trying to hold

00:42:22.880 these entities accountable.

00:42:25.080 But many of us

00:42:25.980 just feel really helpless.

00:42:27.120 No one's going to go to jail

00:42:28.100 because of this.

00:42:29.280 Republicans,

00:42:30.000 109 of them in the House,

00:42:31.600 voted against defunding CISA,

00:42:33.680 which was the nerve center

00:42:35.140 of all this censorship.

00:42:36.840 What can Americans do?

00:42:38.680 What should they be telling

00:42:39.500 their politicians to do

00:42:40.620 to address all this censorship?

00:42:44.820 Well, one thing that people can do

00:42:47.340 is educate themselves

00:42:48.860 and understand kind of

00:42:49.920 the breadth of the problem.

00:42:50.720 And to do that,

00:42:51.920 you kind of have to take a step back.

00:42:54.200 One of the things

00:42:55.140 that became really clear

00:42:56.640 when the Twitter files

00:42:57.640 came out earlier this year

00:42:59.100 is that a lot of the tools

00:43:01.600 that the federal government

00:43:02.800 created for itself

00:43:04.620 after 9-11,

00:43:06.720 sort of adding

00:43:07.580 significant counterintelligence

00:43:10.420 and intelligence gathering

00:43:11.660 and surveillance capabilities

00:43:12.960 to the FBI,

00:43:14.500 the creation of the Department

00:43:15.540 of Homeland Security,

00:43:16.880 these kind of tools

00:43:17.980 that were the argument

00:43:19.820 for them at the time

00:43:20.760 was that we need

00:43:21.460 to be able to detect

00:43:22.940 and disrupt terrorist attacks

00:43:24.820 before they happen.

00:43:26.900 So we can't take

00:43:27.820 a law enforcement approach

00:43:29.540 to terrorism.

00:43:30.980 We have to take

00:43:31.560 a proactive sort of,

00:43:34.080 we have to interdict

00:43:35.860 these plots.

00:43:37.080 And so we have to launch

00:43:38.400 this massive espionage

00:43:39.940 and surveillance apparatus

00:43:42.320 in order to do that.

00:43:43.500 And some people at the time

00:43:45.460 warned that this was

00:43:46.680 very dangerous,

00:43:47.340 that if you created

00:43:48.400 such a surveillance apparatus,

00:43:50.420 eventually it wouldn't be used

00:43:52.440 on foreign terrorists,

00:43:53.860 it would be turned

00:43:54.460 on the American people.

00:43:56.120 And those people

00:43:57.460 were ignored at the time,

00:43:58.980 but everything that they said

00:44:00.920 20 years ago now

00:44:02.860 has turned out to be true

00:44:04.540 because the tools

00:44:06.240 and the agencies

00:44:07.360 and the apparatus

00:44:09.280 that was designed

00:44:10.560 to go after terrorists

00:44:11.820 has been turned

00:44:13.180 on American people

00:44:14.220 and has been used

00:44:15.960 to throttle free speech

00:44:17.940 and censor online content

00:44:19.860 and opinions and jokes

00:44:21.060 and satire

00:44:21.800 and real news reporting as well.

00:44:24.680 And I think that's

00:44:25.580 the important thing

00:44:26.540 to understand.

00:44:27.200 That's what the FBI was doing,

00:44:29.360 especially after January 6th.

00:44:31.940 It ended up just sending

00:44:33.300 Twitter like databases

00:44:34.760 of accounts to suspend,

00:44:36.580 block, throttle,

00:44:37.900 censor, crush, ban.

00:44:40.100 And as though Twitter

00:44:42.460 was an arm of the FBI

00:44:45.900 or the Department

00:44:46.740 of Homeland Security

00:44:47.580 or CISA.

00:44:49.200 And that, as far as we know,

00:44:51.160 you know, that sort of thing

00:44:52.220 continues to this day.

00:44:53.600 It's not as though

00:44:54.120 this has all been dismantled

00:44:55.260 just because we know about it.

00:44:57.800 So interesting.

00:44:58.740 You bring up parody accounts

00:45:00.280 and that, to me,

00:45:01.020 that was the one

00:45:01.740 that made my blood boil, right?

00:45:03.000 So, yeah, the FBI

00:45:04.140 was sending direct tweets

00:45:05.940 and Facebook posts

00:45:06.920 that they needed to be censored

00:45:07.800 by these companies.

00:45:08.480 The White House

00:45:09.340 was doing the same thing.

00:45:10.820 The Biden administration

00:45:11.980 was sending Jill Biden

00:45:13.880 parody accounts

00:45:15.080 and tweets to Twitter

00:45:16.480 to say, hey, get rid of this

00:45:17.880 because it makes

00:45:18.460 the First Lady look bad. 1.00

00:45:19.960 When they say disinformation

00:45:21.460 or misinformation,

00:45:23.380 it really doesn't mean

00:45:24.460 that these things aren't true.

00:45:25.800 In fact, they actually admit that.

00:45:27.680 CISA says that part of their job

00:45:29.760 is to get rid of malinformation,

00:45:32.660 which is literally defined

00:45:34.140 by CISA as information

00:45:35.480 that's true,

00:45:36.180 but that is somehow damaging.

00:45:38.420 And what they mean

00:45:38.880 is damaging to themselves

00:45:40.160 and their own narrative.

00:45:41.660 And they use these words

00:45:43.080 to manipulate us

00:45:43.860 to say, well,

00:45:44.180 we're not pro-disinformation.

00:45:46.440 So I guess it's okay

00:45:48.520 for the government

00:45:49.260 to potentially stop bad people

00:45:51.880 from telling lies

00:45:52.680 on the Internet,

00:45:53.140 but the problem is

00:45:53.820 who decides what's true?

00:45:56.080 And ultimately,

00:45:57.160 because our federal government

00:45:58.420 is so partisan,

00:46:00.060 the left ends up

00:46:01.360 deciding what's true.

00:46:02.440 And by and large,

00:46:04.320 the right is the one

00:46:05.260 that gets censored

00:46:06.700 on these platforms.

00:46:08.100 And they make it impossible

00:46:08.900 for us to survive

00:46:10.300 as an entity, right?

00:46:11.340 If we can't share our articles,

00:46:13.580 right, or Human Events

00:46:14.360 can't put out their clips

00:46:17.420 because it's getting censored

00:46:18.700 all the time,

00:46:19.200 well, then you can't really exist

00:46:20.360 because you can't spread the message,

00:46:22.000 you can't make money,

00:46:22.900 you can't get ad revenue.

00:46:24.340 So there's a lot of threats

00:46:26.320 that this poses,

00:46:27.180 not just to the First Amendment,

00:46:29.780 right, but the way that

00:46:32.180 we are able to share information

00:46:34.000 in our country.

00:46:35.200 John, what is this going to mean

00:46:36.660 for 2024?

00:46:37.960 It doesn't seem like

00:46:39.040 these problems

00:46:39.540 have really been addressed.

00:46:41.040 We know about them,

00:46:42.160 we're talking about them,

00:46:43.820 but I don't see how

00:46:45.200 we're actually going to be protected

00:46:46.660 from this kind of censorship

00:46:48.280 come 2024.

00:46:50.160 No, the misinformation

00:46:51.540 or malinformation

00:46:53.060 industrial complex

00:46:54.220 is very much alive and well.

00:46:56.020 And we need to understand it

00:46:57.140 as such,

00:46:58.260 you know,

00:46:58.480 the terms misinformation

00:46:59.880 and malinformation

00:47:00.760 weren't really around

00:47:01.940 before 2016.

00:47:02.980 It was Donald Trump's election

00:47:04.080 that really propelled

00:47:05.280 what are actually Soviet terms

00:47:08.780 for Soviet propaganda.

00:47:10.000 These are terms

00:47:10.380 the Soviet Union came up with

00:47:11.540 to counter,

00:47:12.840 you know,

00:47:13.540 real journalism

00:47:15.120 and real news

00:47:16.080 with Soviet propaganda.

00:47:17.820 They came up with terms

00:47:18.900 like misinformation

00:47:19.500 and malinformation.

00:47:21.760 That,

00:47:22.480 there's a whole ecosystem

00:47:23.900 of national security

00:47:25.600 scholars and consultants

00:47:27.220 that are tied up

00:47:28.500 in these different centers

00:47:29.460 that are housed

00:47:30.060 at universities,

00:47:30.760 that there's a revolving door

00:47:32.680 between the intelligence agencies

00:47:34.160 and these centers

00:47:35.800 housed at universities.

00:47:36.820 And that's all intact.

00:47:39.200 Okay.

00:47:39.640 That's all alive and well.

00:47:41.220 Now,

00:47:41.480 one big difference

00:47:42.440 is that

00:47:42.960 Elon Musk owns Twitter now.

00:47:45.360 And so they're less able

00:47:47.320 to sort of strong arm Twitter,

00:47:49.720 not entirely unable

00:47:50.920 to strong arm them,

00:47:51.980 but we need to sort of expect

00:47:53.640 that the kind of misinformation

00:47:56.020 and malinformation operations,

00:47:58.860 psychological and propaganda operations

00:48:00.800 that we saw in 2020

00:48:01.900 are going to be part

00:48:03.500 of the 2024 election cycle.

00:48:05.020 And so something profound changes,

00:48:06.760 this is just part

00:48:07.640 of our,

00:48:08.280 you know,

00:48:09.280 political economy now.

00:48:10.760 And it's going to be

00:48:12.760 until there's some major

00:48:13.780 structural changes

00:48:14.740 that take place

00:48:15.500 because there's too many people

00:48:17.140 invested in throttling

00:48:18.940 free speech

00:48:19.640 on the internet

00:48:20.460 and preventing

00:48:21.200 something like

00:48:22.420 a Donald Trump victory

00:48:23.940 from ever happening again.

00:48:25.220 That's the real purpose

00:48:26.280 of all this.

00:48:27.380 Yeah.

00:48:27.620 John,

00:48:27.920 where can people go

00:48:28.840 to follow you

00:48:29.420 just so we get that?

00:48:33.420 You can follow me

00:48:34.440 on Twitter

00:48:34.720 at John D. Davidson

00:48:35.560 dot com

00:48:36.720 at John D. Davidson

00:48:37.840 where I was banned

00:48:39.260 for over a year

00:48:40.620 for saying that

00:48:41.320 Rachel Levin

00:48:41.920 is a man.

00:48:43.360 That was under

00:48:43.740 the old Twitter

00:48:44.400 misinformation, right?

00:48:47.480 But now I'm back

00:48:48.580 for now.

00:48:49.920 You're back.

00:48:50.440 Thanks so much

00:48:51.060 for being here.

00:48:51.620 This is all connected, right?

00:48:52.820 The abortion issue,

00:48:53.600 the feminism issue,

00:48:54.300 if we don't have the right

00:48:55.080 to talk about it

00:48:55.860 on social media,

00:48:56.860 which is what

00:48:57.420 the authoritarians are doing,

00:48:58.880 we're going to lose

00:48:59.680 every election.

00:49:00.480 We're going to lose it

00:49:01.140 on every level.

00:49:03.520 So this is super important.

00:49:04.780 John,

00:49:04.960 thanks for being here.

Human Events Daily with Jack Posobiec - November 08, 2023

EPISODE 600： THE GEN Z ABORTION ARMY

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