As fighting escalates in Gaza, protests are growing in the U.S. in support of Israel, including massive rallies on the National Mall in Washington, D.C. and in Spain. Meanwhile, Israeli politicians are calling in the pages of the Wall Street Journal for Palestinian refugees from Gaza to be resettled in the West.
00:01:42.900In Skokie, the start of a 13-hour road trip to send a message to the world.
00:01:47.140At least tens of thousands are expected to gather on the National Mall for a midday rally tomorrow in support of Israel.
00:01:53.420We have been very transparent about the fact that we have limited visibility into both the whereabouts of the hostages within Gaza and their condition.
00:02:01.920And I cannot look in the eye and tell you how many of those hostages are still alive.
00:02:08.320This was Jabalia refugee camp in the north.
00:02:10.620And our team in Gaza documenting more children pulled from the rubble in the south.
00:02:15.180How is the world seeing these weird events that is happening in Spain, this violation to our democracy?
00:02:22.500Well, the world isn't seeing it enough, and that's why we wanted to come, because it's not getting the coverage it deserves.
00:02:28.440I mean, anybody who would violate your constitution, potentially use physical violence to end democracy, is a tyrant, is a dictator.
00:02:39.200And this is happening in the middle of Europe.
00:02:40.700So we thought it deserved more coverage than it's getting.
00:02:43.020Ladies and gentlemen, welcome aboard today's edition of Human Events Daily.
00:02:47.920This is us live from Washington, D.C. today, November 14th, 2023, Anno Domini.
00:02:55.200The world is on fire at this very moment.
00:02:59.580We're now seeing not only the protests in Washington, D.C., and we're working.
00:03:04.200Producers, let me know when we get the stream up, because I know Ben Berkwam is there on the scene at the protests in D.C.
00:03:11.180We've got pro-Israel protesters, pro-Palestinian protesters are squaring off.
00:03:17.160We're also seeing, of course, the protests in the street out in Spain.
00:03:21.820We did the entire show about that yesterday.
00:03:23.700Tucker Carlson making his surprise appearance really just immediately after the show ended yesterday, kicking everything into high gear.
00:03:31.700After, of course, we got the ball rolling on Human Events Daily.
00:03:35.520Tucker Carlson, a great fan of the show, apparently.
00:03:37.680And then we're seeing now in the pages of the Wall Street Journal how we're bringing all this home.
00:03:45.400There are Israeli politicians are calling in the pages of the Wall Street Journal for Palestinian refugees from Gaza to be resettled in the West, specifically in the United States.
00:03:58.440Guys, do we have Ben? Do we have him on the scene?
00:04:02.620Ben, tell us what we're seeing down there.
00:04:53.360Are you seeing any of these counter protesters, pro-Palestinian, anyone kicking off any violence, that type of thing?
00:04:58.640I haven't seen it, but we've been inside this corral this entire time.
00:05:04.900Again, the security level, I heard Kash Patel say it was a level one, DHS level one, which is apparently the highest level security threat.
00:05:12.800So they have this entire place cordoned off.
00:05:14.900We have a fence around the entire thing, around the perimeter.
00:05:17.720There are some protesters outside the fence, but we can't see them from where we're at here.
00:05:21.860I haven't heard of any violence, but knowing the left, this is this unholy alliance between BLM, Antifa, and Hamas terrorist supporters.
00:05:32.540And one thing to keep in mind is this is just a prelude of what's to come.
00:05:36.620If President Trump wins in 2024, these guys are aligning their forces to attack not just Israel, but attack America and the West.
00:06:08.640We've got a packed show, jam-packed stick right there, folks.
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00:08:23.060And, of course, the United States and Europe accepted refugees in the past.
00:08:27.380So why shouldn't they accept these refugees now?
00:08:30.760Well, southern Israel is full of desert.
00:08:33.140I don't understand why you couldn't just put these displaced civilians there.
00:08:36.920And, by the way, there are a lot of civilians that are obviously caught up in the middle of all of this.
00:08:43.720The hospitals are completely overflowing in Gaza right now.
00:08:46.760In some cases, the hospitals have been affected, you know, directly either hit in strikes or otherwise affected in terms of power, in terms of water.
00:08:58.340The ability to actually take care of people is severely diminished within the city of Gaza at the moment.
00:09:03.480So the case that then comes, why is it incumbent then on the United States of America to take in these refugees?
00:09:11.320When, of course, we know, we know that this has been the plan from the start in many corners of the U.S. administration.
00:09:19.560Someone who's been completely outspoken on this issue is Gavin Wax.
00:09:23.820He's the head of the New York Young Republicans.
00:09:26.100Gavin, what are we to make of this piece?
00:09:28.500Why is it appearing in the Wall Street Journal now?
00:09:31.060And is this, as I contend, part of essentially the plan all along to get rid of the Palestinians?
00:09:40.540I think this is part of a normalization effort that is aimed to deal with this Gaza problem.
00:09:45.660Listen, you know, I'm supportive of Israel and the right to defend themselves.
00:09:48.500But this this impending refugee crisis is not the problem of the United States or Western Europe, for that matter.
00:09:55.920You know, it's the problem of Israel and its neighbors, primarily Egypt and other Arab country who has the closest affinity to the Palestinians and would be the first nation to receive these refugees were they to flee the Gaza Strip.
00:10:10.520But I think this effort now being pushed to move something like over a million, maybe two million Palestinians from Gaza into the United States or elsewhere is an absolute ridiculous idea.
00:10:23.960We're full with immigrants and we're full with refugees, many of whom in all these groups should probably be deported to begin with, should probably be denaturalized and certainly shouldn't be here.
00:10:33.240We've already seen the problems hitting American cities and American college campuses with these radical pro Hamas, pro Islamist protesters and sympathizers that have been creating havoc in our own, you know, in our own borders, within our own borders.
00:10:50.000We don't need another million to two million of these people coming here to spread that same type of ideas and that same type of rhetoric.
00:10:58.700We need the situation to be dealt with over there.
00:11:01.160At the end of the day, this is not the United States problem.
00:11:06.220We're not here to settle every, you know, different group fleeing from a war zone or fleeing for economic reasons or fleeing for whatever reason.
00:11:14.780We need to focus internally, look to our own borders, and we cannot be taking on all of the world's problems, whether in Israel or elsewhere.
00:11:23.000Well, that's exactly right, because they say, oh, you've taken in refugees.
00:11:40.240These are and there's essentially neocons of Israel.
00:11:43.020You're seeing the neocons of the United States.
00:11:44.680What is it about the neocon ideology, shall we say, this group of people that would that not only pushes for us to invade the world, but also to invite the world?
00:11:57.660Why are these two so indelibly tied together?
00:12:00.100I mean, at the end of the day, these are very hawkish globalists.
00:12:03.880They want to use the remaining resources and power financially, economically, demographically or any other sense of the United States, this decaying empire to advance their world agenda.
00:12:14.420But they have they have no care in the world about what happens on our own shores.
00:12:18.000So it's an empire that's focused exclusively abroad and not at home.
00:12:21.700That's why we have cities filled with drug addicts and homelessness.
00:12:25.040We have rising unemployment, rising inflation.
00:12:27.540Our entire country, our institutions are all collapsing under their watch.
00:12:31.700They don't really care what's happening on the home front.
00:12:34.760You know, Mike Pence stated it perfectly in his Freudian slip on that first debate where he said he doesn't care about the problems happening in the United States.
00:12:43.060They only care about advancing their own interests abroad.
00:12:45.440These are not the interests of the American people, American citizens or national security interests.
00:12:50.200These are just the interests of a few globalist elites who are pushing an agenda.
00:12:55.200And in many cases, you know, they have a sort of nationalism for other countries that they don't actually express for their own country, which is really the strangest and saddest thing of all, that they have this sort of jingoistic nationalism for another nation.
00:13:08.300And then when it comes to their own nation, they kind of just put up their arms and, you know, shrug.
00:13:14.920Our elites and our ruling and political class are completely disconnected from the geopolitical realities of the world.
00:13:21.680They're completely disconnected from the domestic ills plaguing this country.
00:13:26.980And as you show clips of all these typical inner American inner city American scenes, it just goes to show we really are a declining empire.
00:13:34.160I mean, look at this, we didn't even get our special forces, our interpreters out of the out of Afghanistan before that thing fell apart.
00:13:43.460We saw that the people that came over talking about the Bacha Bazi's.
00:13:46.480You're talking about the people that came over that forced their way onto those flights, those that completely insane situation that went on in Afghanistan, where, by the way, we had control of the country.
00:13:57.480We don't have control of, nobody has control of Gaza right now, except maybe Hamas.
00:14:01.880And so when you're, it's complete chaos on the ground bedlam.
00:14:05.180And so the idea that there's going to be any way to vet people coming out of that situation, it's ludicrous.
00:14:13.600And of course, we've seen before, and I've talked about this, you've talked about this, how for so many of the, so many people of the Muslim world, they view the actions of Israel to be at the behest of the United States.
00:14:28.440So you bring them to the United States or throughout Europe, and they will say, well, we are now going to conduct attacks on you in your homeland because you are responsible for everything that Israel, every negative thing that they claim Israel has done, every negative piece of footage that you see out there, this PR, the TikTok videos, et cetera, that's out there, they will blame that on the United States.
00:14:51.100And then when they come here, now they're, now they have the ability to target your families and your children.
00:14:58.920There's no way these people can be vetted.
00:15:00.940This is why, by the way, Gavin, there was a guy, if I remember correctly, who said, we shouldn't be bringing in migrants from this part of the world.
00:15:08.960We should be banning people from this part of the world.
00:15:54.300And if we can start by closing them from countries that certainly hate us and have populations that are very opposed to the United States, I think that's a sensible policy that should be advocated by all.
00:16:06.220But instead, everyone's doing mental gymnastics to justify continuing with this sort of status quo, continuing with these open borders, and now encouraging an entire population from Gaza, an entire militant population, terrorist-sympathizing population, a population that overwhelmingly supports terrorist acts against Israel, killing of civilians by every poll, by every metric.
00:17:00.560Well, never before in history has a serious nation invited in the population of another country that they were actively involved in hostilities against.
00:17:49.860In fact, back in the 1940s, if people want to remember this, when we declared war on Japan after Pearl Harbor, what did we do with the Japanese Americans?
00:17:57.980We even went so far as to say, not only are we not going to allow Japanese immigration, but we're going to lock up everyone of Japanese descent here in the United States.
00:18:06.300So I'm not saying that that was the best way forward, but I am saying that that's the way the country used to think.
00:18:14.420Now we've completely veered to the opposite end of the pendulum, and we're going to do so to our own doom, downfall, and devastation.
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00:20:09.120So, as we look out across the β you've got two sides on right now.
00:20:15.400So, you've got the β what I call on the Democrat side, the Democrat shadow primary that's going on.
00:20:20.960Why do you think, by the way, that Gavin Newsom just went over to China, met with Xi Jinping, and then who turns around?
00:20:27.300Xi Jinping comes to the United States and goes wear China-fornia to meet with Gavin Newsom.
00:20:34.100That's because in the Democrat shadow primary, they're trying to get Joe Biden out of office, and they want to replace him with Gavin Newsom.
00:20:42.140Problem is, Jill Biden, Joe himself, and the other stubborn people, Steve Busetti, on the Team Biden side within the White House are refusing to allow this to occur.
00:20:55.020They don't want Gavin Newsom to come in.
00:20:57.620They're going to try to do everything they can.
00:20:59.420And by the way, you're seeing also members of the Obama team also come out and publicly call for Biden to drop out of the race.
00:21:29.200Gavin, why is it that Donald Trump represents a complete departure from this neocon, neoliberal uniparty that we see on not just the Republican side, but we see really across both sides of government?
00:21:45.640Listen, I think Donald Trump is the only truly America first candidate in the political arena in 2023.
00:21:54.460I mean, it says a lot about the state of our country, but that's really β he's our really only champion.
00:22:00.160And that's why he's a big threat to the system.
00:22:02.160They know he has a very strong possibility of winning.
00:22:04.600They know he comes with a strong political and electoral coalition that could be used to actually form a government.
00:22:11.740And they know that the policies he wants to enact in his second term will probably make his first term look mild by comparison.
00:22:19.380I mean, he's been rolling out a series of policy agendas for a domestic American national renewal and for an American renewal on the world stage, putting America first.
00:22:29.320I mean, this goes against all of the machinations and plans and plots and schemes that the globalists have been conjuring up for decades, which has led to the gutting of the United States, to the managed decline of the United States and the broader West, and has led to the elevation of China and other states at the expense of the United States and our allies.
00:22:49.800So a return to a Trump presidency, an ascendant Trump presidency, would also mean an ascendant United States, and it would be a complete change of course compared to the direction we've been going in over the last few years, which has been one of managed decline, where we flooded our borders, where our jobs have been continuing to be sent overseas, where politically we've become more fractured, internally more divided, and militarily more stretched thin.
00:23:18.060And they're all scared about this, China, everyone, everyone wants to see the decline of the United States continue, first and foremost, our own elites, who are profiting off this decline, and China secondarily as our biggest geopolitical rival.
00:23:33.960So it's a sad state of affairs, but it just goes to show how important this upcoming election is and how desperately we need a return to the Trump White House.
00:23:42.800Well, I think that's right, because when you look at it, the globalists view the United States as just another fulcrum, another tool for them.
00:23:55.560You know, our country to them is a, you know, a testing ground for their laboratory, you know, cures, their medications, their financial schemes, and also, of course, a commodities market where they can become rich off of the backs of our people.
00:24:12.940Whereas what Trump was doing was fashioning the United States into a nation state that was actually the leader of the West, the leader of Western civilization.
00:24:24.280And Gavin, I know that you and I were both recently over in Belgrade.
00:24:28.340We spoke at the counter, what was it counter, not counter, I wish it was counter, counter-revolutionary.
00:24:34.120Cross-continental conservative conference, the four C's.
00:24:39.420Why is it then that it's so important for the United States to view ourselves as the carrying the mantle of Western civilization?
00:24:51.080Why did President Trump talk about Western civilization the way he did when he was in office?
00:24:55.560Listen, to return to our roots, we need to dispel this notion that we're simply an economic zone, that the nation doesn't matter, that the borders don't matter, that the culture doesn't matter, that God doesn't matter.
00:25:09.020We need to return to the fundamentals of Western civilization, which were based on, you know, family, God, and country.
00:25:16.840It was this competition between these different states.
00:25:19.140It was the competition between these nation states that allowed us, one of the reasons allowed us to progress economically, technologically, culturally, etc.
00:25:28.520And this decline, this malaise we've seen in the United States and the broader West has been because of this sort of nihilism, this sort of postmodernism, this rejection of the nation, this rejection of the family, the rejection of God.
00:25:40.040And we need to return to our roots, and we need to return to a country that puts our interests first, that understands that we are a nation, that we have commonality, that there are things that bind us together beyond simply being born on the right side of the border.
00:25:54.320There's deeper roots here, and we need to preserve those roots.
00:25:57.240We need to preserve our idea of the American nation because it's a good idea.
00:26:01.360It's an idea that's led to a ton of prosperity.
00:26:03.520It's an idea that's led to a lot of economic and technological advancement here and abroad.
00:26:09.780Otherwise, we're surrendering everything, and we're getting nothing in return, which is basically the last several decades summed up pretty nicely.
00:26:21.240The Trump movement, as Steve Bannon has said, has ascended.
00:26:24.220The vast majority of people are beginning to wake up to what's happening in our country and understanding what the elites and the globalists are trying to do.
00:26:32.280And they want to see a return to the America that they grew up in, the America that they're nostalgic for, the America that was promised to them and their children and their grandchildren and all their posterity.
00:26:43.140And that's an America that's slowly dying under this sort of uniparty beltway regime.
00:26:49.300And we need a return to the one man who actually has a vision, who actually wants to return America to greatness.
00:26:55.600And that man is Donald J. Trump, and they're doing everything they can to stop him.
00:29:02.420Obviously, the polling is not the end-all, be-all.
00:29:04.380But it's one of the few quantitative tools we have to measure this.
00:29:07.340And I think if you just look at the fundamentals and you just look at the state of the economy, the state of the country, you know, the state of Biden's, you know, mental state, mental health.
00:29:17.260I mean, there's a lot of things pointing to a successful return of President Trump to the White House.
00:29:23.200But there's going to be a lot of battles.
00:29:26.620There's going to be electoral battles.
00:29:28.460It's going to be an all-out war between now and November 2024.
00:29:32.700So that's why we cannot succumb to the sort of defeatist rhetoric and sentiments that some on our own side are pushing, some other Republicans, and also Democrats are pushing and advancing in the media and all their other controlled, you know, information, you know, distribution networks, whether it's the media or social media or college campuses, whatever it may be.
00:29:55.520We can't be defeatist because that's, you know, if we accept that it's already lost, it's over just from that point going forward.
00:30:01.400But listen, I think you made a good point in your opening that what he was able to accomplish in not even four years, just in two years was incredible.
00:30:09.260And it just goes to show when there's political leadership and political will, we can certainly create a fast and robust recovery and renewal of our country.
00:30:18.380I mean, just look what they did in San Francisco with Xi Jinping's arrival there.
00:30:24.140They were, you know, they were setting up, you know, beautiful boulevards with new plants and the homeless were gone and the streets were cleaned.
00:30:30.460And, you know, if they were able to do that in San Francisco, probably, you know, the armpit of this country right now, we could do that at the national stage.
00:30:38.240We can fix this entire country overnight.
00:30:40.220There's a lot of defeatist people that say we can't do it.
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00:33:20.640And I looked at it, and I said, I'm reading it.
00:33:22.520I'm going, well, this is just what Rich Barris has been saying for months.
00:33:25.760This is exactly what he's been saying for months.
00:33:28.060And so walk me through their data, walk me through as it pertains to yours, what does this mean for the election going forward?
00:33:36.100Yeah, thanks for having me, Jack, and I appreciate you saying that because, you know, in my business, you're either right or you're wrong.
00:33:42.600You know, you just hope to be a little bit ahead of the curve.
00:33:44.440By the way, those sausages with cheese are slamming.
00:33:47.720But look, Stack is actually β they really are.
00:33:52.500The Stack is actually more conservative with Trump's electoral vote projection than some others out there.
00:33:58.060But it is worth noting that β and I only know this from knowing people who saw it β the work they did, because they are a Republican group, the work they did in 2022 was very, very accurate.
00:34:09.020So it's very important to note, you know, what their forecasts are showing.
00:34:13.040But it is exactly what I have been saying for a while.
00:34:16.220A lot of these states β and I think they were, frankly, a little bit extra fair to Ron DeSantis in Iowa and Ohio because we're doing the Rust Belt poll actually now, Jack.
00:34:28.740And, you know, with Trump, I mean, these are greater than 10 percent margins at this point.
00:34:43.400It's very close with the other Republicans because these are states β we looked at the vote last week in Ohio.
00:34:50.560These are states where there are certain voters who only come out for Trump.
00:34:54.220And then there are voters who, if they do come out β these are the Obama-Trump voters β they won't necessarily vote for another Republican candidate.
00:35:02.580They are a Trump-Republican-leaning candidate, Trump-Republican-leaning voter.
00:35:07.220They may or may not show up, and if they do when Trump's not on the ballot, these are independents.
00:35:59.800I'm always going to go up there, put the work in.
00:36:02.080I'm there every single election, day in, day out, when it comes all the way back to 2016 and all the elections that I worked there statewide and locally, et cetera, going back, gosh, almost 15 years at this point.
00:36:14.400But that being said, in this data, they've got Pennsylvania in the Trump column.
00:36:20.860They've got Wisconsin in the Trump column, which I would say of the Rust Belt, the traditional Rust Belt states, I would say Wisconsin's probably the most likely.
00:36:28.980I could certainly see Pennsylvania going for Trump because, of course, they have Michigan going for Biden.
00:36:38.960But what is it about DeSantis that makes him not able to compete for these same voters, Rich, because when you β for me, the story isn't so much that Trump can win them.
00:36:50.240But why is it that DeSantis, who is β when they say generic Democrat, generic Republican, the generic ballot, they say β and Morning Joe had that whole thing this morning about how, well, the generic Democrat, that's Joe Biden.
00:37:03.280I would say the generic Republican is Ron DeSantis.
00:37:07.000I would say that that is your generic Republican type of candidate.
00:37:09.860Why does a candidate like that perform so badly that they get beat as bad as McCain did in 2008?
00:37:19.320Listen, well, you just β actually, you just said it right there.
00:37:22.880When Trump won in 2016, Republicans resisted the evolution of the party that he was trying to drag them into.
00:37:30.200And so, you know, six, seven years later now, Jack, it's ridiculous.
00:37:34.340Frankly, it's pathetic that Republicans are still being seen in very different light than the former president is.
00:37:41.940When the president wins, he's the head of the party.
00:37:44.640And that usually results in the party becoming more like them or going in their direction.
00:37:50.160It certainly means that they take on their identity.
00:37:52.740Because we have seen in the Trump era so many other Republican leaders and the donors and the consulting class fight him every step of the way, everyone looks at Donald Trump and says, yeah, sure, he's a Republican.
00:38:08.300You can count on the rest of them to stab him and us in the back.
00:38:13.720And DeSantis, unfortunately, part of his campaign story is in part betrayal, is it not?
00:38:20.300So at least certainly Trump, the Trump team has tried to make it that.
00:38:24.580Look at Caroline Carluccio in Pennsylvania last week, Supreme Court candidate, the Republican candidate for the Supreme Court.
00:38:30.740This is a candidate who actually won Erie County, which is almost identical every election in Northampton on the eastern side of the of the state.
00:38:39.320And she lost Northampton by over 15 points.
00:39:19.620They were DeSantis' numbers six months ago until people got to know him a little bit better.
00:39:24.220The minute they come up with the Nikki Haley story and the warmongering sinks in, they're going to flee from her like, you know, like rats flee from the exterminator.
00:39:34.120I mean, that's going to be the end of it.
00:39:35.180She would, I honestly, and I got to be fair to DeSantis here, I think that DeSantis in the end, despite what the polls say right now, I think he would still perform better than her.
00:39:44.140I think she would end up being turned into a very technocrat kind of military industrial complex kind of candidate because that's who she is.
00:40:33.060In the midterm elections of Barack Obama, we saw that his coalition did not turn out for him in those elections, even when he endorsed candidates, even when he came in and campaigned, it just didn't work.
00:40:47.540But I think in this era of sort of the I call it the rock star politician era, when you have these rock star candidates, people are going to come out for them because they like their candidate that doesn't transfer to every other person when they're not on the ballot.
00:41:07.600And I'm not saying that Republicans were supportive of Barack Obama, but I'm talking about this broad coalition that he was able to put together on his side, the same way that Trump has a coalition on the other side.
00:41:20.360Now, which, by the way, includes a lot of former Obama voters.
00:42:13.280Now, for people who think that Jill Stein doesn't matter, I want to point out it's not so much the candidate themselves as the fact that they've got a national party backing that already has the infrastructure to get them on the ballot.
00:42:46.620We came down on the side of him hurting Trump because of where his support comes from and, again, where ballot access is obtainable, right?
00:42:54.260I mean, that's really what it comes down to.
00:42:56.360Even in the Bloomberg poll, which the headline was RFK hurts Biden and Trump equally, that's not really true because where it hurt Biden in states he's not even going to get on the ballot.
00:43:07.340In Georgia, he's not getting on the ballot.
00:43:09.280In Arizona, the chances are close to nil, right?
00:43:14.300And you have Joel Stein who has β people have to understand the rules.
00:43:18.160Libertarian, by the way, Lars Mapstead, he'll probably be on the ballot in most of these states as well if he wins the nomination, which most expect him to.
00:43:25.600There will β they have to meet prior vote chairs in a lot of these other states.
00:43:31.700Like did your campaign, did your organization, did your party meet a certain vote chair level and then that helps them qualify to get on the ballot?
00:44:33.620The states that will decide that are the states we were just talking about, those Rust Belt votes plus Arizona and Georgia.
00:44:39.860And two of them, he won't even get on the ballot.
00:44:43.620Well, no, and I think β by the way, Texas β if I remember correctly, I think Texas used to be β you could actually just pay your way to get on the ballot.
00:44:55.360So, you know, we didn't go over that one specifically because, you know, I don't really expect Texas to be whole competitive, really.
00:45:02.320But, you know, some of these other ones where they are potential upsets, you know, New Hampshire β excuse me, New Mexico, Colorado.
00:45:09.640So, that projection, one of the things that jumped out at me is that they have Colorado closer than New Hampshire β New Hampshire β excuse me, I did it again.
00:46:02.140And by the way, I want to β if we can, guys, let's throw up that B-roll of the march in D.C. that's going on right now because β or at least get β if we can get the live shot up because I know it's getting pretty big.
00:46:12.760And this is important, I think, for people to see because people have to understand β and, Rich, maybe you can talk about this a little bit as well from the political standpoint.
00:46:20.380We're seeing this β obviously, the new sort of paradigm is that the Israel-Gaza, Israel-Hamas, Israel-Palestinian, however people want to talk about it split is having an effect here in the United States.
00:46:36.080Do you think that it's going to drive people more towards Trump?
00:46:43.440Well, I think the danger for Biden as part of his base has already begun to fracture.
00:46:48.640And this β look, the reason why Democrats don't denounce Palestinians and even denounce Hamas is because they can't win without Dearborn, Michigan, voting so heavily in favor for that.
00:47:00.220They can't win Minnesota without big Muslim β you know, big turnout and margins in Muslim communities in the Twin Cities areas.
00:48:10.980Independence, big problem they had with Trump going into 2020 is they constantly felt like the boat was rocking, whether it was his fault or not, whether the media and the Democratic Party were the ones rocking the boat.