Human Events Daily with Jack Posobiec - EPISODE 604： WORLD ON FIRE： FROM DC TO MADRID

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00:00:30.000 This is what happens when the fourth turning meets fifth generation warfare.

00:00:39.900 A commentator, international social media sensation, and former Navy intelligence veteran.

00:00:46.520 This is Human Events with your host, Jack Posobiec.

00:00:49.460 Deliver us from evil.

00:00:51.000 Folks say, oh, they're just cleaning up this place because all those fancy leaders are coming into town.

00:00:55.920 That's true.

00:00:57.820 Because it's true.

00:00:58.920 The president set to meet face-to-face with China's President Xi Wednesday at the APEC summit in San Francisco,

00:01:05.260 hoping to stabilize tensions amid this downward spiral in relations.

00:01:08.720 We're very focused on the data we're collecting from surveillance efforts.

00:01:12.680 We have launched an effort to be able to counter some of the negativity and reach out to people when we see hate speech.

00:01:21.660 Our social media analysis unit has ramped up its monitoring of sites to catch incitement to violence, direct threats to others.

00:01:30.380 As fighting escalates in Gaza, protests growing here in the U.S.

00:01:34.720 Over the weekend, crowds calling for a ceasefire in cities nationwide, from Austin to Boston.

00:01:40.760 Some rallies turning contentious.

00:01:42.900 In Skokie, the start of a 13-hour road trip to send a message to the world.

00:01:47.140 At least tens of thousands are expected to gather on the National Mall for a midday rally tomorrow in support of Israel.

00:01:53.420 We have been very transparent about the fact that we have limited visibility into both the whereabouts of the hostages within Gaza and their condition.

00:02:01.920 And I cannot look in the eye and tell you how many of those hostages are still alive.

00:02:05.840 Israel's airstrikes, unrelenting.

00:02:08.320 This was Jabalia refugee camp in the north.

00:02:10.620 And our team in Gaza documenting more children pulled from the rubble in the south.

00:02:15.180 How is the world seeing these weird events that is happening in Spain, this violation to our democracy?

00:02:22.500 Well, the world isn't seeing it enough, and that's why we wanted to come, because it's not getting the coverage it deserves.

00:02:28.440 I mean, anybody who would violate your constitution, potentially use physical violence to end democracy, is a tyrant, is a dictator.

00:02:39.200 And this is happening in the middle of Europe.

00:02:40.700 So we thought it deserved more coverage than it's getting.

00:02:43.020 Ladies and gentlemen, welcome aboard today's edition of Human Events Daily.

00:02:47.920 This is us live from Washington, D.C. today, November 14th, 2023, Anno Domini.

00:02:55.200 The world is on fire at this very moment.

00:02:59.580 We're now seeing not only the protests in Washington, D.C., and we're working.

00:03:04.200 Producers, let me know when we get the stream up, because I know Ben Berkwam is there on the scene at the protests in D.C.

00:03:11.180 We've got pro-Israel protesters, pro-Palestinian protesters are squaring off.

00:03:17.160 We're also seeing, of course, the protests in the street out in Spain.

00:03:21.820 We did the entire show about that yesterday.

00:03:23.700 Tucker Carlson making his surprise appearance really just immediately after the show ended yesterday, kicking everything into high gear.

00:03:31.700 After, of course, we got the ball rolling on Human Events Daily.

00:03:35.520 Tucker Carlson, a great fan of the show, apparently.

00:03:37.680 And then we're seeing now in the pages of the Wall Street Journal how we're bringing all this home.

00:03:45.400 There are Israeli politicians are calling in the pages of the Wall Street Journal for Palestinian refugees from Gaza to be resettled in the West, specifically in the United States.

00:03:58.440 Guys, do we have Ben? Do we have him on the scene?

00:04:02.620 Ben, tell us what we're seeing down there.

00:04:04.860 Give us the color of the situation.

00:04:06.460 Hey, Jack.

00:04:10.240 Huge, huge crowd.

00:04:11.600 I've heard numbers between people saying 50,000, 100,000.

00:04:15.040 I even heard one say 200,000.

00:04:16.820 I haven't got any confirmed numbers yet, but the crowd is massive.

00:04:20.520 It goes back.

00:04:21.200 I actually had to move away from the riser.

00:04:23.240 We're out in a little grass area here because the signal is so jammed right now because there's so many people out here.

00:04:28.520 But it goes, we're about a block away from Congress.

00:04:30.640 It goes all the way down past the Washington Monument.

00:04:33.080 A huge, huge crowd.

00:04:34.800 And keep this in mind, Jack.

00:04:36.160 This is after the left had threatened violence here.

00:04:38.740 They threatened that they were going to be coming out and attacking this event.

00:04:41.260 And you still have people from across America, around the world, come out and say, we're not going to be afraid of your intimidation.

00:04:47.480 We're going to stand up and support Israel and support America.

00:04:51.880 Now, are you seeing any of that?

00:04:53.360 Are you seeing any of these counter protesters, pro-Palestinian, anyone kicking off any violence, that type of thing?

00:04:58.640 I haven't seen it, but we've been inside this corral this entire time.

00:05:04.900 Again, the security level, I heard Kash Patel say it was a level one, DHS level one, which is apparently the highest level security threat.

00:05:12.800 So they have this entire place cordoned off.

00:05:14.900 We have a fence around the entire thing, around the perimeter.

00:05:17.720 There are some protesters outside the fence, but we can't see them from where we're at here.

00:05:21.860 I haven't heard of any violence, but knowing the left, this is this unholy alliance between BLM, Antifa, and Hamas terrorist supporters.

00:05:32.540 And one thing to keep in mind is this is just a prelude of what's to come.

00:05:36.620 If President Trump wins in 2024, these guys are aligning their forces to attack not just Israel, but attack America and the West.

00:05:44.880 This is God versus the devil.

00:05:46.900 This is Islam, Jihad versus Christianity, Judeo-Christian values. 1.00

00:05:52.620 All of this is setting up as we speak.

00:05:55.700 And sadly, I anticipate it's only going to get worse.

00:05:59.460 All right, Ben, stay tuned.

00:06:01.400 Stay there.

00:06:01.960 Be safe while you're on the ground.

00:06:04.040 We'll come back to you as things progress.

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00:07:55.320 Now, I want to go into this Wall Street Journal piece that we have here.

00:08:00.200 This is written by Danny Dan and Ram Ben Barak out of Israel.

00:08:04.920 They're saying that, basically, there are so many Gazans that have left or are trying to flee from the war zone.

00:08:14.320 They want to get them out.

00:08:15.640 They know that Hamas is there. 0.65

00:08:17.460 They know that it's all coming down.

00:08:19.080 But they should be accepted by who?

00:08:21.440 The United States.

00:08:23.060 And, of course, the United States and Europe accepted refugees in the past.

00:08:27.380 So why shouldn't they accept these refugees now? 1.00

00:08:30.760 Well, southern Israel is full of desert.

00:08:33.140 I don't understand why you couldn't just put these displaced civilians there. 0.98

00:08:36.920 And, by the way, there are a lot of civilians that are obviously caught up in the middle of all of this.

00:08:43.720 The hospitals are completely overflowing in Gaza right now.

00:08:46.760 In some cases, the hospitals have been affected, you know, directly either hit in strikes or otherwise affected in terms of power, in terms of water.

00:08:58.340 The ability to actually take care of people is severely diminished within the city of Gaza at the moment.

00:09:03.480 So the case that then comes, why is it incumbent then on the United States of America to take in these refugees? 1.00

00:09:11.320 When, of course, we know, we know that this has been the plan from the start in many corners of the U.S. administration.

00:09:19.560 Someone who's been completely outspoken on this issue is Gavin Wax.

00:09:23.820 He's the head of the New York Young Republicans.

00:09:26.100 Gavin, what are we to make of this piece?

00:09:28.500 Why is it appearing in the Wall Street Journal now?

00:09:31.060 And is this, as I contend, part of essentially the plan all along to get rid of the Palestinians? 1.00

00:09:39.200 Yeah, listen, I agree with you.

00:09:40.540 I think this is part of a normalization effort that is aimed to deal with this Gaza problem. 0.88

00:09:45.660 Listen, you know, I'm supportive of Israel and the right to defend themselves.

00:09:48.500 But this this impending refugee crisis is not the problem of the United States or Western Europe, for that matter.

00:09:55.920 You know, it's the problem of Israel and its neighbors, primarily Egypt and other Arab country who has the closest affinity to the Palestinians and would be the first nation to receive these refugees were they to flee the Gaza Strip.

00:10:10.520 But I think this effort now being pushed to move something like over a million, maybe two million Palestinians from Gaza into the United States or elsewhere is an absolute ridiculous idea.

00:10:21.700 I mean, we are full. 0.91

00:10:22.640 We're full with illegal migrants. 1.00

00:10:23.960 We're full with immigrants and we're full with refugees, many of whom in all these groups should probably be deported to begin with, should probably be denaturalized and certainly shouldn't be here. 1.00

00:10:33.240 We've already seen the problems hitting American cities and American college campuses with these radical pro Hamas, pro Islamist protesters and sympathizers that have been creating havoc in our own, you know, in our own borders, within our own borders. 0.75

00:10:50.000 We don't need another million to two million of these people coming here to spread that same type of ideas and that same type of rhetoric.

00:10:58.700 We need the situation to be dealt with over there.

00:11:01.160 At the end of the day, this is not the United States problem.

00:11:03.960 Our interests are our own.

00:11:06.220 We're not here to settle every, you know, different group fleeing from a war zone or fleeing for economic reasons or fleeing for whatever reason.

00:11:13.440 We need to shut our doors.

00:11:14.780 We need to focus internally, look to our own borders, and we cannot be taking on all of the world's problems, whether in Israel or elsewhere.

00:11:23.000 Well, that's exactly right, because they say, oh, you've taken in refugees. 0.93

00:11:27.040 You've taken in migrants before. 0.80

00:11:28.600 Yes, that's why we've got the problems that we have at the moment.

00:11:32.500 That's what have led to this.

00:11:34.020 But you're reading.

00:11:34.500 And by the way, Gavin, these are not liberals that wrote this.

00:11:38.020 I looked this up.

00:11:38.740 These are right wingers.

00:11:40.240 These are and there's essentially neocons of Israel.

00:11:43.020 You're seeing the neocons of the United States.

00:11:44.680 What is it about the neocon ideology, shall we say, this group of people that would that not only pushes for us to invade the world, but also to invite the world?

00:11:57.660 Why are these two so indelibly tied together?

00:12:00.100 I mean, at the end of the day, these are very hawkish globalists.

00:12:03.880 They want to use the remaining resources and power financially, economically, demographically or any other sense of the United States, this decaying empire to advance their world agenda.

00:12:14.420 But they have they have no care in the world about what happens on our own shores.

00:12:18.000 So it's an empire that's focused exclusively abroad and not at home.

00:12:21.700 That's why we have cities filled with drug addicts and homelessness. 0.95

00:12:25.040 We have rising unemployment, rising inflation.

00:12:27.540 Our entire country, our institutions are all collapsing under their watch.

00:12:31.700 They don't really care what's happening on the home front.

00:12:33.720 It's not their interest.

00:12:34.760 You know, Mike Pence stated it perfectly in his Freudian slip on that first debate where he said he doesn't care about the problems happening in the United States.

00:12:41.780 They only care about abroad. 0.62

00:12:43.060 They only care about advancing their own interests abroad.

00:12:45.440 These are not the interests of the American people, American citizens or national security interests.

00:12:50.200 These are just the interests of a few globalist elites who are pushing an agenda.

00:12:55.200 And in many cases, you know, they have a sort of nationalism for other countries that they don't actually express for their own country, which is really the strangest and saddest thing of all, that they have this sort of jingoistic nationalism for another nation.

00:13:08.300 And then when it comes to their own nation, they kind of just put up their arms and, you know, shrug.

00:13:13.440 It's a sad state of affairs.

00:13:14.920 Our elites and our ruling and political class are completely disconnected from the geopolitical realities of the world.

00:13:21.680 They're completely disconnected from the domestic ills plaguing this country.

00:13:26.980 And as you show clips of all these typical inner American inner city American scenes, it just goes to show we really are a declining empire.

00:13:34.160 I mean, look at this, we didn't even get our special forces, our interpreters out of the out of Afghanistan before that thing fell apart.

00:13:43.460 We saw that the people that came over talking about the Bacha Bazi's.

00:13:46.480 You're talking about the people that came over that forced their way onto those flights, those that completely insane situation that went on in Afghanistan, where, by the way, we had control of the country.

00:13:57.480 We don't have control of, nobody has control of Gaza right now, except maybe Hamas.

00:14:01.880 And so when you're, it's complete chaos on the ground bedlam.

00:14:05.180 And so the idea that there's going to be any way to vet people coming out of that situation, it's ludicrous. 0.87

00:14:12.020 It's completely insane.

00:14:13.600 And of course, we've seen before, and I've talked about this, you've talked about this, how for so many of the, so many people of the Muslim world, they view the actions of Israel to be at the behest of the United States.

00:14:28.440 So you bring them to the United States or throughout Europe, and they will say, well, we are now going to conduct attacks on you in your homeland because you are responsible for everything that Israel, every negative thing that they claim Israel has done, every negative piece of footage that you see out there, this PR, the TikTok videos, et cetera, that's out there, they will blame that on the United States.

00:14:51.100 And then when they come here, now they're, now they have the ability to target your families and your children.

00:14:57.620 This is completely insane.

00:14:58.920 There's no way these people can be vetted.

00:15:00.940 This is why, by the way, Gavin, there was a guy, if I remember correctly, who said, we shouldn't be bringing in migrants from this part of the world. 0.86

00:15:08.960 We should be banning people from this part of the world. 1.00

00:15:11.840 Do you remember that guy?

00:15:12.880 What was his name?

00:15:13.460 I can't recall.

00:15:14.500 I believe it was President Donald J. Trump, if I recall correctly.

00:15:18.820 That guy, that was the guy.

00:15:20.200 Yes.

00:15:20.600 He was attacked by these same neoconservatives.

00:15:24.180 He was attacked by these same neoliberals. 1.00

00:15:26.520 All the worst type of ideologues attacked him, called it stupid, called it impossible. 1.00

00:15:31.740 It was a solid policy. 1.00

00:15:33.220 It was a solid plan.

00:15:34.480 It would keep us safe at home, and it would reduce this massive inflow of migrants into this country, refugees or otherwise. 1.00

00:15:42.620 We don't know who these people are.

00:15:44.020 They're changing up the entire dynamic of this country.

00:15:46.740 They're depressing wages.

00:15:48.000 They're bringing over radical ideas.

00:15:49.580 And they're turning the country in a completely different direction.

00:15:52.780 We need to close our borders. 0.80

00:15:54.300 And if we can start by closing them from countries that certainly hate us and have populations that are very opposed to the United States, I think that's a sensible policy that should be advocated by all.

00:16:06.220 But instead, everyone's doing mental gymnastics to justify continuing with this sort of status quo, continuing with these open borders, and now encouraging an entire population from Gaza, an entire militant population, terrorist-sympathizing population, a population that overwhelmingly supports terrorist acts against Israel, killing of civilians by every poll, by every metric.

00:16:29.560 They want to import that.

00:16:59.560 They want to bring another person in.

00:17:00.560 Well, never before in history has a serious nation invited in the population of another country that they were actively involved in hostilities against.

00:17:15.780 It's ludicrous on its face.

00:17:17.940 Why would we ever do this?

00:17:19.880 Why would we be involved in hostilities against the U.S. is involved, right?

00:17:23.960 Everybody knows this.

00:17:24.920 That's why the U.S. forces in Syria and Iraq are completely under attack right now.

00:17:30.120 That's why we've got special forces, helicropters that are going down.

00:17:35.060 We're seeing all of this across the Middle East.

00:17:37.320 Okay, we're involved.

00:17:38.460 The U.S. is involved, right?

00:17:39.780 Get it.

00:17:40.040 You break it.

00:17:40.420 You bought it.

00:17:41.220 And so why would you then turn around and say, we are going to bring the people of that area into our country? 0.99

00:17:49.720 No.

00:17:49.860 In fact, back in the 1940s, if people want to remember this, when we declared war on Japan after Pearl Harbor, what did we do with the Japanese Americans?

00:17:57.980 We even went so far as to say, not only are we not going to allow Japanese immigration, but we're going to lock up everyone of Japanese descent here in the United States. 1.00

00:18:06.300 So I'm not saying that that was the best way forward, but I am saying that that's the way the country used to think.

00:18:14.420 Now we've completely veered to the opposite end of the pendulum, and we're going to do so to our own doom, downfall, and devastation.

00:18:24.000 Stay tuned.

00:18:24.840 Human Events Daily continues walking through the insanity of the neocons with Gavin Lines.

00:18:29.800 Well, they talk about influencers.

00:18:34.220 These are influencers, and they're friends of mine, Jack Pesovic.

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00:20:09.120 So, as we look out across the – you've got two sides on right now.

00:20:15.400 So, you've got the – what I call on the Democrat side, the Democrat shadow primary that's going on.

00:20:20.960 Why do you think, by the way, that Gavin Newsom just went over to China, met with Xi Jinping, and then who turns around?

00:20:27.300 Xi Jinping comes to the United States and goes wear China-fornia to meet with Gavin Newsom.

00:20:34.100 That's because in the Democrat shadow primary, they're trying to get Joe Biden out of office, and they want to replace him with Gavin Newsom.

00:20:42.140 Problem is, Jill Biden, Joe himself, and the other stubborn people, Steve Busetti, on the Team Biden side within the White House are refusing to allow this to occur.

00:20:55.020 They don't want Gavin Newsom to come in.

00:20:57.620 They're going to try to do everything they can.

00:20:59.420 And by the way, you're seeing also members of the Obama team also come out and publicly call for Biden to drop out of the race.

00:21:07.320 That's the Democrat side.

00:21:08.920 Everybody gets what's going on there.

00:21:10.300 Everyone understands that Xi Jinping is the boss coming over to inspect his new purchases.

00:21:16.840 But on the Republican side, we still have this primary coming forward, and we still have these people.

00:21:22.780 You've got the de-simps.

00:21:24.220 You've got people that are now plugging for Nikki Haley.

00:21:28.060 They're pushing for this.

00:21:29.200 Gavin, why is it that Donald Trump represents a complete departure from this neocon, neoliberal uniparty that we see on not just the Republican side, but we see really across both sides of government?

00:21:45.640 Listen, I think Donald Trump is the only truly America first candidate in the political arena in 2023.

00:21:54.460 I mean, it says a lot about the state of our country, but that's really – he's our really only champion.

00:22:00.160 And that's why he's a big threat to the system.

00:22:02.160 They know he has a very strong possibility of winning.

00:22:04.600 They know he comes with a strong political and electoral coalition that could be used to actually form a government.

00:22:11.740 And they know that the policies he wants to enact in his second term will probably make his first term look mild by comparison.

00:22:19.380 I mean, he's been rolling out a series of policy agendas for a domestic American national renewal and for an American renewal on the world stage, putting America first.

00:22:29.320 I mean, this goes against all of the machinations and plans and plots and schemes that the globalists have been conjuring up for decades, which has led to the gutting of the United States, to the managed decline of the United States and the broader West, and has led to the elevation of China and other states at the expense of the United States and our allies.

00:22:49.800 So a return to a Trump presidency, an ascendant Trump presidency, would also mean an ascendant United States, and it would be a complete change of course compared to the direction we've been going in over the last few years, which has been one of managed decline, where we flooded our borders, where our jobs have been continuing to be sent overseas, where politically we've become more fractured, internally more divided, and militarily more stretched thin.

00:23:18.060 And they're all scared about this, China, everyone, everyone wants to see the decline of the United States continue, first and foremost, our own elites, who are profiting off this decline, and China secondarily as our biggest geopolitical rival.

00:23:33.960 So it's a sad state of affairs, but it just goes to show how important this upcoming election is and how desperately we need a return to the Trump White House.

00:23:42.800 Well, I think that's right, because when you look at it, the globalists view the United States as just another fulcrum, another tool for them.

00:23:55.560 You know, our country to them is a, you know, a testing ground for their laboratory, you know, cures, their medications, their financial schemes, and also, of course, a commodities market where they can become rich off of the backs of our people.

00:24:12.940 Whereas what Trump was doing was fashioning the United States into a nation state that was actually the leader of the West, the leader of Western civilization.

00:24:24.280 And Gavin, I know that you and I were both recently over in Belgrade.

00:24:28.340 We spoke at the counter, what was it counter, not counter, I wish it was counter, counter-revolutionary. 0.54

00:24:33.380 Cross-continental.

00:24:34.120 Cross-continental conservative conference, the four C's.

00:24:39.420 Why is it then that it's so important for the United States to view ourselves as the carrying the mantle of Western civilization?

00:24:51.080 Why did President Trump talk about Western civilization the way he did when he was in office?

00:24:55.560 Listen, to return to our roots, we need to dispel this notion that we're simply an economic zone, that the nation doesn't matter, that the borders don't matter, that the culture doesn't matter, that God doesn't matter.

00:25:09.020 We need to return to the fundamentals of Western civilization, which were based on, you know, family, God, and country.

00:25:15.260 And that's what made the West great.

00:25:16.840 It was this competition between these different states.

00:25:19.140 It was the competition between these nation states that allowed us, one of the reasons allowed us to progress economically, technologically, culturally, etc.

00:25:28.520 And this decline, this malaise we've seen in the United States and the broader West has been because of this sort of nihilism, this sort of postmodernism, this rejection of the nation, this rejection of the family, the rejection of God.

00:25:40.040 And we need to return to our roots, and we need to return to a country that puts our interests first, that understands that we are a nation, that we have commonality, that there are things that bind us together beyond simply being born on the right side of the border.

00:25:54.320 There's deeper roots here, and we need to preserve those roots.

00:25:57.240 We need to preserve our idea of the American nation because it's a good idea.

00:26:01.360 It's an idea that's led to a ton of prosperity.

00:26:03.520 It's an idea that's led to a lot of economic and technological advancement here and abroad.

00:26:08.200 And we need to preserve that.

00:26:09.780 Otherwise, we're surrendering everything, and we're getting nothing in return, which is basically the last several decades summed up pretty nicely.

00:26:19.000 So Trump understands this.

00:26:21.240 The Trump movement, as Steve Bannon has said, has ascended.

00:26:24.220 The vast majority of people are beginning to wake up to what's happening in our country and understanding what the elites and the globalists are trying to do.

00:26:32.280 And they want to see a return to the America that they grew up in, the America that they're nostalgic for, the America that was promised to them and their children and their grandchildren and all their posterity.

00:26:43.140 And that's an America that's slowly dying under this sort of uniparty beltway regime.

00:26:49.300 And we need a return to the one man who actually has a vision, who actually wants to return America to greatness.

00:26:55.600 And that man is Donald J. Trump, and they're doing everything they can to stop him.

00:26:59.760 He has all the best enemies.

00:27:01.360 You could judge a man by his enemies.

00:27:02.820 Well, he has some of the best enemies out there.

00:27:05.140 So that's why I'm excited.

00:27:06.580 And I think we're moving in the right direction.

00:27:09.400 The polling is looking good.

00:27:10.520 I know you're talking to Richard Barris later.

00:27:12.460 So there's a lot of things working in our direction.

00:27:14.140 We've got to stay vigilant.

00:27:14.780 Gavin, let me ask you this.

00:27:17.820 Is it possible for Trump to win?

00:27:20.600 Because, and not just beyond the polling, or we're going to get into that later, but look at this.

00:27:26.240 Trump turned around.

00:27:27.680 Everything that Obama did in eight years, Trump turned it around in two years.

00:27:32.260 People forget that 2019 was the most prosperous year for the United States in modern history.

00:27:41.160 The American people finally, even the working class, finally saw an actual and a real raise in their wages.

00:27:50.840 And so why is it then that it seems like there's so much, and in the crypto world, they call it FUD, right?

00:27:57.300 Fear, uncertainty, and doubt.

00:27:58.640 Why is there so much FUD around Donald Trump's campaign?

00:28:02.220 And obviously, I know this is being spread by the opposing Republican campaigns.

00:28:06.780 But Gavin, give us the truth.

00:28:08.160 Can Trump win this race?

00:28:11.820 I believe he can.

00:28:13.180 I believe it's still going to be an uphill battle.

00:28:14.960 He's going to have all the institutional forces stacked against him once again.

00:28:19.440 He doesn't necessarily have the advantages he did being an incumbent.

00:28:24.100 So it's certainly going to be a tough race.

00:28:26.000 But I think the state of the country, the state of the nation, has never been more ripe for political change.

00:28:31.700 I think he is viewed as that agent of change.

00:28:34.340 I think he has a record that you can measure against.

00:28:36.620 It's going to be a unique election, the first in generations.

00:28:40.000 You have to go back to the Grover Cleveland elections in the 1880s, where you had basically a former incumbent battling an incumbent.

00:28:46.780 There's a lot of strange things going on in this election that don't necessarily have a precedent.

00:28:52.400 But I certainly think he is in one of the best electoral positions he's ever been, especially compared to 2020 or even 2016.

00:29:01.060 The polling reflects that.

00:29:02.420 Obviously, the polling is not the end-all, be-all.

00:29:04.380 But it's one of the few quantitative tools we have to measure this.

00:29:07.340 And I think if you just look at the fundamentals and you just look at the state of the economy, the state of the country, you know, the state of Biden's, you know, mental state, mental health.

00:29:17.260 I mean, there's a lot of things pointing to a successful return of President Trump to the White House.

00:29:23.200 But there's going to be a lot of battles.

00:29:25.420 There's going to be legal battles.

00:29:26.620 There's going to be electoral battles. 0.97

00:29:28.460 It's going to be an all-out war between now and November 2024.

00:29:32.700 So that's why we cannot succumb to the sort of defeatist rhetoric and sentiments that some on our own side are pushing, some other Republicans, and also Democrats are pushing and advancing in the media and all their other controlled, you know, information, you know, distribution networks, whether it's the media or social media or college campuses, whatever it may be.

00:29:55.520 We can't be defeatist because that's, you know, if we accept that it's already lost, it's over just from that point going forward.

00:30:01.400 But listen, I think you made a good point in your opening that what he was able to accomplish in not even four years, just in two years was incredible.

00:30:09.260 And it just goes to show when there's political leadership and political will, we can certainly create a fast and robust recovery and renewal of our country.

00:30:18.380 I mean, just look what they did in San Francisco with Xi Jinping's arrival there.

00:30:22.720 The streets never looked cleaner.

00:30:24.140 They were, you know, they were setting up, you know, beautiful boulevards with new plants and the homeless were gone and the streets were cleaned.

00:30:30.460 And, you know, if they were able to do that in San Francisco, probably, you know, the armpit of this country right now, we could do that at the national stage.

00:30:38.240 We can fix this entire country overnight.

00:30:40.220 There's a lot of defeatist people that say we can't do it.

00:30:42.600 It's impossible.

00:30:43.520 We have to reject it.

00:30:45.460 Gavin Wax, give him a follow, folks.

00:30:47.760 Also, by the way, check out the New York Young Republicans Gala is coming up early December.

00:30:53.780 Go follow Gavin and the NYYRs.

00:30:55.900 That is going to be the event of the Christmas season.

00:30:59.360 See you there.

00:31:00.460 Hear about the boring people at your office.

00:31:04.200 I'm trying to listen to the new human events with Jack Posobiec.

00:31:10.240 All right.

00:31:10.980 Jack Posobiec here back live.

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00:32:42.920 Got to bring in here Richard Barris because, Rich, there was this smart data – no, no, no, no, stack data strategy.

00:32:52.620 Stack data strategy.

00:32:54.020 Boy, that's a terrible name.

00:32:55.220 They really need to fix that.

00:32:56.820 But it was an electoral college forecast that they put out, and I'm reading through this thing, and it says,

00:33:02.320 Trump would win the electoral college, 292 to 246 for Biden, but then DeSantis would get absolutely slaughtered in the electoral college.

00:33:16.020 We've got the map up right here, so map break.

00:33:19.220 Let's take a look at this.

00:33:20.640 And I looked at it, and I said, I'm reading it.

00:33:22.520 I'm going, well, this is just what Rich Barris has been saying for months.

00:33:25.760 This is exactly what he's been saying for months.

00:33:28.060 And so walk me through their data, walk me through as it pertains to yours, what does this mean for the election going forward?

00:33:36.100 Yeah, thanks for having me, Jack, and I appreciate you saying that because, you know, in my business, you're either right or you're wrong.

00:33:42.600 You know, you just hope to be a little bit ahead of the curve.

00:33:44.440 By the way, those sausages with cheese are slamming.

00:33:47.720 But look, Stack is actually – they really are.

00:33:52.500 The Stack is actually more conservative with Trump's electoral vote projection than some others out there.

00:33:58.060 But it is worth noting that – and I only know this from knowing people who saw it – the work they did, because they are a Republican group, the work they did in 2022 was very, very accurate.

00:34:09.020 So it's very important to note, you know, what their forecasts are showing.

00:34:13.040 But it is exactly what I have been saying for a while.

00:34:16.220 A lot of these states – and I think they were, frankly, a little bit extra fair to Ron DeSantis in Iowa and Ohio because we're doing the Rust Belt poll actually now, Jack.

00:34:28.740 And, you know, with Trump, I mean, these are greater than 10 percent margins at this point.

00:34:33.340 Ten are better.

00:34:34.380 They're blowout.

00:34:35.080 You take them off the table.

00:34:36.100 But a lot of Republicans, they want to take those off the table across the board no matter who it is.

00:34:41.980 And the fact is that's not true.

00:34:43.400 It's very close with the other Republicans because these are states – we looked at the vote last week in Ohio.

00:34:50.560 These are states where there are certain voters who only come out for Trump.

00:34:54.220 And then there are voters who, if they do come out – these are the Obama-Trump voters – they won't necessarily vote for another Republican candidate.

00:35:02.580 They are a Trump-Republican-leaning candidate, Trump-Republican-leaning voter.

00:35:07.220 They may or may not show up, and if they do when Trump's not on the ballot, these are independents.

00:35:12.760 They may vote for another Democrat.

00:35:14.520 So there are a lot of very close races out there.

00:35:16.840 But pretty much confirming what everybody else is seeing across the board, very big shifts in a lot of these states.

00:35:23.140 I would just caution people.

00:35:25.020 Wisconsin tends to poll a little bit more Democratic than Pennsylvania.

00:35:29.100 So this happened to us in 2020.

00:35:31.120 Pennsylvania looked two points more Trump than Biden, and we were right about both in the end.

00:35:39.940 But Wisconsin was actually the closer state.

00:35:43.580 So walk me through some of that because this is the question that I've had merennially when we go to these polls.

00:35:48.920 Of course, look, I'm very biased.

00:35:51.280 I'm a little bit too close to Pennsylvania.

00:35:53.160 I say, look, I don't want to call Pennsylvania because that's my bias.

00:35:57.780 I love my commonwealth.

00:35:58.880 I always want to win it.

00:35:59.800 I'm always going to go up there, put the work in.

00:36:02.080 I'm there every single election, day in, day out, when it comes all the way back to 2016 and all the elections that I worked there statewide and locally, et cetera, going back, gosh, almost 15 years at this point.

00:36:14.400 But that being said, in this data, they've got Pennsylvania in the Trump column.

00:36:20.860 They've got Wisconsin in the Trump column, which I would say of the Rust Belt, the traditional Rust Belt states, I would say Wisconsin's probably the most likely.

00:36:28.980 I could certainly see Pennsylvania going for Trump because, of course, they have Michigan going for Biden.

00:36:36.340 OK, I get that.

00:36:37.080 Minnesota going for Biden.

00:36:38.120 I get that as well.

00:36:38.960 But what is it about DeSantis that makes him not able to compete for these same voters, Rich, because when you – for me, the story isn't so much that Trump can win them.

00:36:50.240 But why is it that DeSantis, who is – when they say generic Democrat, generic Republican, the generic ballot, they say – and Morning Joe had that whole thing this morning about how, well, the generic Democrat, that's Joe Biden.

00:37:03.280 I would say the generic Republican is Ron DeSantis.

00:37:07.000 I would say that that is your generic Republican type of candidate.

00:37:09.860 Why does a candidate like that perform so badly that they get beat as bad as McCain did in 2008?

00:37:19.320 Listen, well, you just – actually, you just said it right there.

00:37:22.880 When Trump won in 2016, Republicans resisted the evolution of the party that he was trying to drag them into. 0.72

00:37:30.200 And so, you know, six, seven years later now, Jack, it's ridiculous. 0.90

00:37:34.340 Frankly, it's pathetic that Republicans are still being seen in very different light than the former president is. 0.90

00:37:41.940 When the president wins, he's the head of the party. 0.86

00:37:44.640 And that usually results in the party becoming more like them or going in their direction.

00:37:50.160 It certainly means that they take on their identity.

00:37:52.740 Because we have seen in the Trump era so many other Republican leaders and the donors and the consulting class fight him every step of the way, everyone looks at Donald Trump and says, yeah, sure, he's a Republican.

00:38:06.120 He's a different kind of Republican.

00:38:08.300 You can count on the rest of them to stab him and us in the back.

00:38:13.720 And DeSantis, unfortunately, part of his campaign story is in part betrayal, is it not?

00:38:20.300 So at least certainly Trump, the Trump team has tried to make it that.

00:38:24.580 Look at Caroline Carluccio in Pennsylvania last week, Supreme Court candidate, the Republican candidate for the Supreme Court.

00:38:30.740 This is a candidate who actually won Erie County, which is almost identical every election in Northampton on the eastern side of the of the state.

00:38:39.320 And she lost Northampton by over 15 points.

00:38:41.600 But you won Erie County.

00:38:43.160 It looks like a Trump winning map outside of that because Trump, he flipped Northampton in 16 as well.

00:38:49.580 He barely lost it in 2020.

00:38:51.720 Where the rest of it comes from, Jack, is the same county she won, Burks, all the way to Mifflin, Juniata.

00:38:58.260 The difference is the amount of votes that he squeezes out of these counties.

00:39:04.060 It's not just that he, you know, flipped the two bellwethers.

00:39:07.420 It's that he squeezed the blood from the stone.

00:39:10.380 There are voters who come out of the woodwork for him, and they're not going to do that for Ron DeSantis or Nikki Haley.

00:39:16.640 Nikki Haley's numbers right now, Jack, are fake.

00:39:18.460 They're fake.

00:39:19.620 They were DeSantis' numbers six months ago until people got to know him a little bit better.

00:39:24.220 The minute they come up with the Nikki Haley story and the warmongering sinks in, they're going to flee from her like, you know, like rats flee from the exterminator.

00:39:33.040 They're going to run like hell.

00:39:34.120 I mean, that's going to be the end of it.

00:39:35.180 She would, I honestly, and I got to be fair to DeSantis here, I think that DeSantis in the end, despite what the polls say right now, I think he would still perform better than her.

00:39:44.140 I think she would end up being turned into a very technocrat kind of military industrial complex kind of candidate because that's who she is. 1.00

00:39:51.120 And she'll get creamed, creamed. 1.00

00:39:53.920 But neither one of them are going to get those voters out.

00:39:57.460 And if you missed it, in case you missed it on Tuesday, that was the story of last week, that Republicans have a turnout problem.

00:40:04.960 They cannot get these voters out without him.

00:40:06.760 No, I think that's exactly right.

00:40:09.180 And by the way, this is something where, and I keep hearing this, you know, when people, I've seen the DeSantis people saying this.

00:40:15.220 I've seen the left say this because a lot of them, a lot of their talking points are complete lockstep at this point.

00:40:19.040 But they say, oh, well, this just proves that Trump voters are a cult.

00:40:22.660 They say, I say, oh, this proves the cult 45 status.

00:40:25.720 And I say, well, really, because this was the exact same paradigm that we saw for who?

00:40:32.020 Barack Obama.

00:40:33.060 In the midterm elections of Barack Obama, we saw that his coalition did not turn out for him in those elections, even when he endorsed candidates, even when he came in and campaigned, it just didn't work.

00:40:45.600 And call it what you will.

00:40:47.540 But I think in this era of sort of the I call it the rock star politician era, when you have these rock star candidates, people are going to come out for them because they like their candidate that doesn't transfer to every other person when they're not on the ballot.

00:41:02.520 And it's as simple as that.

00:41:03.980 They have some they have an electricity behind them.

00:41:06.560 They have an X factor.

00:41:07.600 And I'm not saying that Republicans were supportive of Barack Obama, but I'm talking about this broad coalition that he was able to put together on his side, the same way that Trump has a coalition on the other side.

00:41:20.360 Now, which, by the way, includes a lot of former Obama voters.

00:41:24.600 Rich Barris coming back with us.

00:41:26.500 We're going to walk through this and talk about RFK a little bit.

00:41:28.660 I'm always listening to Human Events with Jack Posobiec.

00:41:35.400 All right, Jack Posobiec back live here, Washington, D.C.

00:41:39.440 We're talking to Rich Barris.

00:41:40.860 We're going through the numbers of the forecast for the 2024 election.

00:41:46.760 Now, Rich, we've been talking about this.

00:41:48.100 We've been talking about the Electoral College, but there's a big name that we haven't thrown in there yet.

00:41:52.020 And a name that, by the way, is getting a little bit of company, what we see right now, that's RFK Jr.

00:41:58.200 I say he's getting company because we also saw that not only is RFK announced as an independent, we've got Cornel West as an independent.

00:42:05.120 We've also got Jill Stein potentially coming up as a Green Party candidate from 2016. 0.52

00:42:12.180 She might want to come back in.

00:42:13.280 Now, for people who think that Jill Stein doesn't matter, I want to point out it's not so much the candidate themselves as the fact that they've got a national party backing that already has the infrastructure to get them on the ballot.

00:42:26.640 Ballot access is absolute key.

00:42:28.640 So, Rich, let's just talk about RFK right now, though.

00:42:31.000 Where do you see him playing as it currently stands?

00:42:34.020 And then additionally, do you think ballot access will be a challenge for him?

00:42:38.140 Yeah, first of all, we see these polls go back and forth and some say, you know, that he hurts Biden.

00:42:45.320 Some say he hurts Trump.

00:42:46.620 We came down on the side of him hurting Trump because of where his support comes from and, again, where ballot access is obtainable, right?

00:42:54.260 I mean, that's really what it comes down to.

00:42:56.360 Even in the Bloomberg poll, which the headline was RFK hurts Biden and Trump equally, that's not really true because where it hurt Biden in states he's not even going to get on the ballot.

00:43:07.340 In Georgia, he's not getting on the ballot.

00:43:09.280 In Arizona, the chances are close to nil, right?

00:43:14.300 And you have Joel Stein who has – people have to understand the rules.

00:43:18.160 Libertarian, by the way, Lars Mapstead, he'll probably be on the ballot in most of these states as well if he wins the nomination, which most expect him to.

00:43:25.600 There will – they have to meet prior vote chairs in a lot of these other states.

00:43:31.700 Like did your campaign, did your organization, did your party meet a certain vote chair level and then that helps them qualify to get on the ballot?

00:43:40.100 Every state is different.

00:43:41.300 But, again, even in the morning console poll, which had that headline – Jack, if you looked inside the numbers, you would see it.

00:43:47.620 But, again, RFK's favorability rating is much better among Trump voters than it is among Biden voters.

00:43:53.700 So, again, he can get on the ballot easier in a state like Minnesota.

00:43:58.220 Maybe that would hurt him with – maybe that would hurt Biden, but I'm not sure.

00:44:01.520 We'll see.

00:44:02.280 The numbers don't suggest that.

00:44:04.220 Could he get on a state like Pennsylvania?

00:44:06.100 Yes, he could.

00:44:07.220 Will he get on a state that – which, on the flip side, could hurt Biden more like Georgia?

00:44:12.620 No, no.

00:44:14.240 I mean, the chances are very nil.

00:44:15.800 There are some New England in the stack data projection.

00:44:19.840 There is some which doesn't surprise me, like Maine.

00:44:23.100 He hurts Biden in Maine.

00:44:24.740 He hurts Biden in New Hampshire a little bit.

00:44:26.540 That doesn't surprise me.

00:44:27.900 But, overall, those two states are not going to decide the electoral college vote.

00:44:31.700 I mean, that's not the winner.

00:44:33.620 The states that will decide that are the states we were just talking about, those Rust Belt votes plus Arizona and Georgia.

00:44:39.860 And two of them, he won't even get on the ballot.

00:44:43.620 Well, no, and I think – by the way, Texas – if I remember correctly, I think Texas used to be – you could actually just pay your way to get on the ballot.

00:44:50.620 Is Texas still like that?

00:44:52.420 Texas had six candidates last time.

00:44:55.360 So, you know, we didn't go over that one specifically because, you know, I don't really expect Texas to be whole competitive, really.

00:45:02.320 But, you know, some of these other ones where they are potential upsets, you know, New Hampshire – excuse me, New Mexico, Colorado.

00:45:09.640 So, that projection, one of the things that jumped out at me is that they have Colorado closer than New Hampshire – New Hampshire – excuse me, I did it again.

00:45:16.960 New Mexico.

00:45:17.840 New Mexico was actually closer last time.

00:45:20.380 So, it wasn't just a Gary Johnson effect from 16, even in 2020.

00:45:24.440 And we're seeing this shift among Hispanic voters in Trump's – in going to the Trump column.

00:45:31.560 You know, when you're getting 43 percent of the Hispanic vote nationwide, New Mexico is going to close.

00:45:36.860 I mean, there's no doubt about it.

00:45:38.220 Look at the poll out of Arizona today as Trump up by eight.

00:45:43.320 They're basically tied with Hispanic votes.

00:45:45.800 And the white vote is more pro-Trump than it was in 2020.

00:45:49.840 So, that's where that stuff comes up.

00:45:52.320 That's where, you know, you really see the impact.

00:45:54.440 When you're looking at the national polls, those are the states we would expect to be able to see them.

00:45:58.660 But – and they're there.

00:46:00.840 Well, I think it's exactly right.

00:46:02.140 And by the way, I want to – if we can, guys, let's throw up that B-roll of the march in D.C. that's going on right now because – or at least get – if we can get the live shot up because I know it's getting pretty big.

00:46:12.760 And this is important, I think, for people to see because people have to understand – and, Rich, maybe you can talk about this a little bit as well from the political standpoint.

00:46:20.380 We're seeing this – obviously, the new sort of paradigm is that the Israel-Gaza, Israel-Hamas, Israel-Palestinian, however people want to talk about it split is having an effect here in the United States.

00:46:36.080 Do you think that it's going to drive people more towards Trump?

00:46:39.980 Is it going to help with Biden?

00:46:41.400 How do you think it plays out?

00:46:43.440 Well, I think the danger for Biden as part of his base has already begun to fracture.

00:46:48.640 And this – look, the reason why Democrats don't denounce Palestinians and even denounce Hamas is because they can't win without Dearborn, Michigan, voting so heavily in favor for that.

00:47:00.220 They can't win Minnesota without big Muslim – you know, big turnout and margins in Muslim communities in the Twin Cities areas. 0.99

00:47:08.640 They need that.

00:47:09.620 So part of his base fracturing is a real danger here.

00:47:13.280 And, you know, where do those voters go?

00:47:15.500 If they don't trust Biden, they go to a third-party option.

00:47:19.460 A few of them split off, especially the younger vote that happened to Hillary Clinton on other issues that they didn't trust her on.

00:47:26.840 Biden, for the first year, maybe year and a half, he didn't have any problems with his progressive base.

00:47:32.840 And lately, we're seeing that.

00:47:34.580 And one of the – you know – I mean, if anyone has ever been to college knows this is a big deal for the young progressive base.

00:47:41.780 The Israeli-Palestinian conflict is like a litmus test.

00:47:46.740 It's like abortion for the right in some of these areas.

00:47:51.360 So I think where it could help Trump outside of that is that these protests scare white people.

00:47:58.020 Let me just be very – I mean, there's – I'm not saying that to be provocative.

00:48:01.300 These protests scare white people, especially even some suburban white people.

00:48:06.840 They don't like this order.

00:48:07.920 I think that's right. I think that's exactly right.

00:48:08.320 But they don't like this order.

00:48:10.980 Independence, big problem they had with Trump going into 2020 is they constantly felt like the boat was rocking, whether it was his fault or not, whether the media and the Democratic Party were the ones rocking the boat.

00:48:21.880 It was really irrelevant to them.

00:48:23.460 They just couldn't stand so much rocking.

00:48:25.460 We call them the seasick voters.

00:48:27.200 They just wanted the boat to stop rocking.

00:48:29.380 They were just so nauseous.

00:48:30.840 They don't like disruption.

00:48:32.560 They like stability.

00:48:33.460 And when they see civil unrest like this, the man in the White House will be blamed.

00:48:38.180 Trump was blamed for the civil unrest in the summer riots of BLM and Antifa, right or wrong.

00:48:44.440 Maybe it wasn't right, but it's the truth.

00:48:47.240 And then Biden will be blamed for this as well.

00:48:49.520 And people do not like civil unrest at all.

00:48:53.520 Normies, big deal with the normies, Jack.

00:48:56.200 I mean, that's what it comes down to.

00:48:57.580 Rich, we're just about out of time.

00:48:59.260 I think you're exactly right.

00:49:00.380 I think this is going to play in a suburb.

00:49:02.860 It's going to fracture the leftist coalition.

00:49:04.580 Real quick, where can people go to follow you, get more information on this data?

00:49:08.060 We're everywhere.

00:49:08.780 Best places, locals, peoplespundit.vocals.com.

00:49:12.440 Thanks, Jack.

00:49:13.120 All the best, brother.

00:49:14.800 Appreciate it, Rich.

00:49:15.520 God bless, man.

00:49:16.180 Folks, we have to understand what's happening overseas is now coming home to America's shores.

00:49:23.680 Are we going to be prepared?

00:49:25.100 Ladies and gentlemen, as always, you have my permission to lay ashore.

00:49:30.380 We'll be right back.

Human Events Daily with Jack Posobiec - November 14, 2023

EPISODE 604： WORLD ON FIRE： FROM DC TO MADRID

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