Episode 611： JANUARY 6TH RETROSPECTIVE WITH DARREN BEATTIE
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On this episode of Human Events Daily, host Jack Posobiec sits down with journalist Darren Beattie to discuss the January 6th, 2019 events that took place on the steps of the U.S. Capitol, and how the events could have been prevented.
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This is what happens when the fourth turning meets fifth generation warfare.
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A commentator, international social media sensation, and former Navy intelligence veteran.
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This is Human Events with your host, Jack Posobiec.
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Ladies and gentlemen, welcome aboard today's edition, Thanksgiving edition of Human Events
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Daily, today is November 23rd, 2023, Anno Domini.
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Happy Thanksgiving to everybody at home, and also would like to say happy Thanksgiving to
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all the J6ers that remain behind bars right now, including a great friend of this show and
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Today we've got a very special episode for you.
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The truth about January 6th, and the man who sat down with us to record this interview
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We go through the truth of what happened that day, the fact that violence was started by the
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police to incite the crowd, rather than the crowd committing violence on the Capitol.
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This was a horrific tragedy, and possibly a setup.
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Our democracy is under an unprecedented assault, unlike anything we've seen in modern times.
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An assault on the citadel of liberty, the Capitol itself.
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An assault on the people's representatives, and the Capitol Hill police sworn to protect
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them, and the public servants who work at the heart of our republic.
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An assault on the rule of law like a few times we've ever seen it.
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An assault on the most sacred of American undertakings.
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The scenes of chaos at the Capitol do not reflect a true America.
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What we're seeing are a small number of extremists dedicated to lawlessness.
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So I hide behind my door like this, like I'm here, and the bathroom door starts going
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like this, like the bathroom door is behind me, or rather in front of me, and I'm like
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this, and the door hinges right here, and I just hear, where is she?
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And, um, this was the moment where I thought everything was over.
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That Trump mob that attacked the citadel of our democracy, our Capitol, they're being rounded
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As for who started it, feds say they're looking into Trump himself.
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Trump whipped up these special people that he loves with lie after lie.
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The January 6th insurrection shook our republic to the core.
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For many in the Congress and across our country, the physical, psychological, and emotional scars
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Yet from the unspeakable horror sprang extraordinary heroism, law enforcement heroes confronted the
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insurrectionists to protect the Capitol, the Congress, and our Constitution.
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I couldn't park my car at work when I was working for another network at the time.
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I had to show ID to get through a military checkpoint just to go to work every day.
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When Joe Biden was inaugurated, there was a crowd of no one.
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Remember, we used to have all those arguments and debates.
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Well, someone who's done more work on that than I think anybody, and more work specifically
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on January 6th, now joins us, the editor of Revolver News, Darren Beattie.
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Now, let me ask you, what is your take on, and I'll say this, I'll put it this way, the
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footage that we've seen thus far from Tucker Carlson, and how does it relate to
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the yeoman's work that you have done at Revolver?
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Well, I think Tucker was the perfect choice to be the custodian of this footage, at least
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I hope eventually it's made public and generally available.
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But I think Tucker's done a great job in covering comprehensively the January 6th lie
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and choosing his footage examples to cover every dimension, sub-dimension of that lie.
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So on Monday night, he showed footage reinforcing our understanding that this wasn't, generally
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Overwhelmingly, most people who even went into the Capitol were respectful, obedient, even
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There were a handful of people vandalizing, and Tucker called them out, as I have.
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But the overwhelming weight of the story is, look, most people, even inside the Capitol,
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were just moseying about taking pictures, not being destructive.
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The second element of it was he had footage of now-deceased Capitol Police Officer Brian
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The reason that this is important is it draws attention to the initial, maybe the original
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sin of the Fed's erection, the prelude to the larger lie of the Fed's erection, and that
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was the circumstances surrounding this officer's death.
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And people may not remember it now, but the very first piece that Revolver.News ever did on
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January 6th wasn't about Ray Epps, wasn't about Pipe Bomb, wasn't about any of those things.
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The title of the piece was deliberately provocative, MAGA Blood Libel.
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And indeed, that's what it was, because the whole narrative, everyone, every corridor in
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the regime media, you heard the refrain, it was bludgeoned to death with a fire extinguisher.
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The frothing, rabid MAGA mob bludgeoned and murdered this Capitol Police officer.
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Now, Revolver News did very extensive reporting on this, saying, look, there's no way he was
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And it's a knowing, you know, it's a deliberate lie on the part of the regime media.
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They say, OK, maybe he was a bludgeoned to death with a fire extinguisher, like we've been
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telling you from every media mouthpiece ad infinitum for the past month or so.
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Some MAGA people sprayed him with bear spray and he died as a result of that.
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Well, Revolver News jumped on that, specifically a New York Times story that provided all these
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images suggesting he was sprayed by these particular people.
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Well, we did a very detailed comparative image analysis and concluded that he wasn't
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If I remember correctly, you actually, if I remember correctly, you actually did a spectral
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analysis of the images themselves to find where- I remember this because I said, of course,
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Darren is going to go to this level because that's what we need, is you did a spectral
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analysis of the images themselves to determine the direction of the spray as relates to where
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the specific position of Sicknick and where he was standing was essentially perpendicular.
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So aside from the direction that the spray was directed, thereby in saying that he could
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And if you'll permit a brief detour, this is interesting on a number of levels.
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So there were two people that basically bore the brunt of the false media narrative because
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the narrative was, oh, he died as a result of bear spray.
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They weren't up to any kind of mastermind issue.
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But one really interesting thing here is that as part of the charges, and they were hit with
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very serious charges, I think with a maximum prison sentence of like 50 years, something
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And Ken, they couldn't say they didn't charge with attempted murder, which was interesting,
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And as part of the alleged conspiracy, the government said, look, they had an exchange
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in which one of the individuals asked the other, is it time for the bear spray?
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And then the other individual said, no, no, not yet.
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Simply the word yet was interpreted as meaning, oh, there was a plan to do something bad with
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the bear spray in the future, and this constituted a conspiracy, and they were hit with very serious
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Now, fast forward, I'm going somewhere with this, and that is an underreported and underappreciated
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exchange between Ray Epps and another individual known to researchers as Maroon Proudboy.
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This is right by that initial breach site, just moments before the breach.
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You can go to revolver.news, the Meet Ray Epps Part 2 series, and watch this.
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Maroon Proudboy, who ended up going in the Capitol and being one of the very aggressive
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He's a very interesting and suspicious character in his own right.
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But this Maroon Proudboy had bear spray in his hands.
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And Ray Epps tells him, when we go in, leave this here.
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So by the very same theory of conspiracy by which the government charged Tanios and Cater
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with very serious charges, long-term prison sentences, they could have easily, by that
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standard, charged Epps for saying, when we go in, leave this here.
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Especially because the guy he was talking to ended up going in and causing a lot of destruction.
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And amazingly, it came out in the January 6th committee transcript of their interrogation
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of Epps, which was a total farce and disgrace, principally because Adam Kinzinger appointed
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himself as Ray Epps' lead counsel, effectively.
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He was defending him more aggressively and creatively than Epps' own lawyer, who happened,
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incidentally, to be a nine-year veteran of the Phoenix FBI field office.
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But amazingly, someone else, there are other committee members who are unnamed in this exchange
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who seem to be extremely puzzled by the whole Epps situation.
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They're obedient enough dogs that they understand, OK, we understand we're supposed to be pro-Epps,
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And in fact, one of them even brought up that specific video that I mentioned of Epps saying,
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when we go in, because Epps told them, he told the committee, originally, I thought it would be
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Mr. Epps, you were saying, I'm probably going to get arrested for this.
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Oh, that's just, that was just a poor choice of words.
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But when we got to the bike racks on the west side of the Capitol, I abandoned all notion of
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Well, the video that I just mentioned, that verbal exchange completely contradicts that.
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And amazingly, someone from the committee actually brought it up.
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And Epps was saying, oh, yeah, that was, I don't know about that.
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I've said in other contexts, it's like Ray Epps is the shaggy of January 6th because it's
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It was like, I'm going to ask my producers to do a, we're going to have to do the auto
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Like, that's, that's the level of chutzpah and just like detachment.
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Um, but yes, uh, this is, uh, you know, and by the way, this, this, this goes to Tucker
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This was, he had said that he had testified under oath, which, which is yet another lie.
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And you can argue with, it was the biggest lie, but it's, it's the fact that he's never
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So he, he testifies, which you'd imagine that his lawyer would have at least asked to
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see the tapes at some point or, or just going through, because this was outdoors.
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It wasn't even indoors, but you can see that at the point that he testified that he had
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already left, he was still climbing the stairs to the Capitol.
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So where am I getting backtracked to the, to Tucker's segment on Monday, he touches every
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They were mostly, you know, just kind of hanging out.
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Even the people in the Capitol, they were just taking pictures.
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So he covered that with the footage, he covered the Brian Sicknick thing, which I think a
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lot of people must've forgotten about this, but this was the original sin, the original
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And thirdly, he covered the kind of most explosive and provocative dimension of it, uh, for which
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And that is the Fed element by exposing Ray Epps and yet another provable lie that he gave
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to the committee and the committee didn't care at all.
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Just further reinforcing our understanding that Ray Epps enjoys an absolutely insane degree
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of protection on the government from the self-appointed J6 witch hunters to a degree that simply defies
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Ray Epps is the smoking gun of the Fed's direction.
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And Tucker's segment confirms that if we, if there was any remaining doubt, Darren, why
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And by the way, you're exactly right that I can go to just about anybody out on the street
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You could probably go in any major city and say, Hey, what happened on January 6th?
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They said, Oh, they, they killed a bunch of cops.
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They would say Trump supporters killed a bunch of cops, right?
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They attacked the Capitol, killed a bunch of cops.
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And it's never been true, but why, why did it need to be true?
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Why was this pushed so hard from the highest levels?
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Why was it that the April 2nd, I mean, we already know the reason, but you know, the April
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2nd actual murder of a Capitol police officer named Billy Evans, just a few, just three months
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And it's never even spoken up when he was killed by a nation of Islam member who drove his car
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This is after the military and the national guard had left and the barricades had come
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Nobody talks about Billy Evans, the only Capitol police officer murdered on the job in 20 years.
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Why was the Brian Sicknick story so important for the regime, Darren?
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One word deadly, the death of Brian Sicknick and the false narrative behind it is what enabled
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the press to put deadly insurrection on all of their headlines and therefore reinforce what
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they wanted out of this lie to begin with, to frame all Trump supporters as potential terrorists,
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And, you know, for obvious reasons, they weren't going to go with Ashley Babbitt's body here
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because that's, you know, that's what really makes it deadly, but that doesn't really fit
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And the death of Brian Sicknick saying, oh, they bludgeoned him to death.
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That enabled them to say the death, the murderous mob, the deadly insurrection.
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You know, it reminds me, it reminds me a little bit of something that happened in a place called
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Ukraine in 2014 and the Maidan protest, which then became the Maidan massacre, the deadly
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Which is, of course, if you listen to any corporate media, which was conducted by the
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president of Ukraine himself, he ordered his his secret police to open fire on the crowd.
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We'd never see anything like that here in the United States within our own shores, would
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Well, that's a that's a very interesting point, especially because one of the principal
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U.S. figures associated with that, with Maidan, it's none other than Victoria Newland, who
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is presently a very senior official in Biden's State Department and who is basically named in
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the controversial and unsubstantiated, but potentially at least partially true account
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given by Seymour Hersh of the U.S. plan to destroy Nord Stream.
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She's been a she's been in this game for a long time and she's one of the principal players
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now in foreign policy, shaping our disastrous involvement and escalation and prolongation of
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But way back in the Obama administration, you know, even back before that, she was one
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of these principal architects of color revolution.
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She was there in Ukraine, you know, ginning up these these protests.
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And, you know, it's funny that this comes up because, you know, before January 6th, Revolver
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News is probably best known for we did a pretty impactful series covering the color revolution.
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And the principal thesis there was not just that the method, the color revolution methodologies
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that we would typically deploy in, you know, Eastern Europe and not just Eastern Europe.
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You see it a lot of places these days, but they're principally associated with Eastern Europe.
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For instance, the Orange Revolution is basically where the whole idea of the color revolution
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But that we were that U.S. officials in particular, a specific sub-faction of the national security
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state, this Atlantis faction, was deploying the same methodology domestically in order to cripple
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Trump in the lead up to the presidential election.
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And that was the principal thesis of the color revolution theory, the series that Revolver.news
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And we covered people like George Kent, who was a major figure who's associated with Trump's
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He was also a senior State Department official who was a color revolution architect.
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The most famous one that we drew attention to is this individual called Norm Eisen, who
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literally wrote a book called The Playbook, which is like an instruction manual for how
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And you could see him following each prescription to the T, not only in his role in foreign affairs
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context, but principally in a domestic context in order to go after Trump.
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He is the most decorated legal hatchet man against Trump, a lawfare architect against Trump.
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And it turns out his fingerprints, incidentally, are all over January 6th.
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We did a big piece on that, that the January 6th impeachment traces all the way back to lawfare
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efforts that Norm Eisen was doing with his lawfare companion, Joseph Sellers.
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The two collaborated very early on, you'll remember, they were trying to get Trump for
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And that collaborative effort also germinated what emerged into Benny Thompson's lawsuit against
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Trump for January 6th, in which he laid out the same theory of the case, that Trump was
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responsible for criminal incitement and so forth.
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So why somebody who had a personal lawsuit like that, with a theory of the case already
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laid out, would be appointed to head an ostensibly neutral fact-finding body for January 6th?
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Well, if we weren't, you know, a banana republic at this point, that would have been called
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But that was really Benny Thompson's selling point, I think, from the standpoint of the
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And I would also, oh, just know, just to add to your incredible reporting, because you're,
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I think you're the person, person that made Norm Eisen famous.
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But folks, remember that Time magazine article, I pulled it up here, the secret history of
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the shadow campaign that saved 2020 by Molly Ball, February 4th, 2021, because, you know,
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the killer always comes back to the scene of the crime.
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The killer always has to make sure that, you know, writes the letter to the police to say,
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I just want to let you know that you couldn't get me.
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Well, Darren, who's one of the very first people mentioned in that article, the secret
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history of the shadow campaign to fortify the election of 2020 is Norm Eisen himself, a
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prominent, this is how they, how they describe him, a prominent lawyer and former Obama official
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who recruited both Republicans and Democrats to the board of what he called the voter protection
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So intimately involved with the details of what we saw here in 20.
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Remember, this was the same article that stated that they weren't sure if they needed riots
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and mobs and attacks and violence in the wake of the 2020 election.
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But if so needed, they could be called upon that literally stated right there in Time magazine
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saying, basically, and I'm just going to cut to the chase, that this is a color revolution.
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Which is a very human, a human endeavor to want credit.
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You want, you know, want recognition for what you've done.
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And they're basically saying that this is why all of these things happens because it was
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George Floyd, Wuhan, the CCP, the Hunter Biden laptop and the squelching of that.
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And then it, of course, culminates in January 6.
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And then one month after January 6, this article comes out in Time magazine.
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And Darren, my argument, and I made this earlier in the week, is that the reason that January
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6 as the culmination of everything that happened in 2020 must stand up and why this narrative
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And you notice, by the way, it's protected by people on both sides of the aisle.
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The uniparties absolutely circled the wagons on this thing.
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So it creates the mental and emotional resonance for a justification for all the insanity of
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2020, why all the norms, the rules for elections, why you had to stay in your home, but these
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people could go out and riot, why militants could take over a 12 square block radius of
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downtown Seattle, why the Portland federal building could be attacked for 59 nights straight
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and not a single person arrested or anything meaningful done.
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And even though we know that chronologically it makes no sense, but they say we were trying
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to protect you from something like this happening.
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And now that it has happened, this, to your point, a deadly insurrection was what we were
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Yes, I think there could absolutely be an element like that of retrofitting.
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And yes, it's there's the response to January 6 has certainly been far more profound than whatever
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trivial response there was to, you know, the Antifa, the BLM and so forth.
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And, you know, as we've learned now, we were critical at the time, but now it's basically
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public record that, you know, Barr didn't want to do anything about any of that, which is
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You know, this was all going on, you know, under Trump's presidency and his own attorney
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general refused to do anything about it when people were burning down streets, rioting
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And, you know, there was even an attack on the White House that, you know, people don't
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There was even an attack on the White House and really no.
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Well, no, no, Darren, no, no, no, because because General Milley did did talk about it because
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he apologized for appearing in a in a walking line with the president after they cleared
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out the rioters who were setting fire to Secret Service encampments, the Secret Service facilities
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that extend beyond the grounds of directly the White House.
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So that's there's Lafayette Square, Lafayette Park Square.
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There's St. John's Historic Church, which was also set on fire.
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General Milley and President Trump walk out in this very famous moment.
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He holds the Bible up in front of St. John's basically to say, you know, we are going we
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Keep in mind, I mean, we are told that that that wasn't a big deal and it was just a protest.
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And even though the Secret Service did, by the way, rush the president into the bunker because
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They weren't sure if people were going to get inside.
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Now, compare that to the reaction of January 6th, where, as we've now seen the videos of
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people simply stumbling around in some cases, shuffling about in Statuary Hall and other
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areas, as as Norm MacDonald famously tweeted at the time that they were staying within the
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velvet ropes, these violent terrorists, the great Norm MacDonald, late great Norm MacDonald,
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We were told that everybody was about to be killed.
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And by the way, that that is what justifies the murder of Ashley Babbitt, because these these
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heinous individuals were about to go in and murder everyone in the Capitol.
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Now, that's a great point about Ashley Babbitt, because, again, they wanted to use the term
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deadly, but it's kind of hard to do that if, you know, the most conspicuous death is the
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death of Ashley Babbitt, who was unarmed and pretty much shot in cold blood.
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You could say they needed something like the death of Sicknick to not just balance that
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And so, yes, this is absolutely, as I say, it was the original sin, the original big lie
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of January 6th was the circumstances surrounding the tragic death of Brian Sicknick, but the death,
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which has now been revealed because by natural events, natural causes is the now the story that
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even the New York Times concedes is the accurate description of how he died.
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Well, Darren, so let me ask you this question, because it feels like the history books are
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And I had Heather MacDonald on here a couple of weeks ago on a Sunday special, and I talked
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about the fact that I remember not learning about the L.A. riots or learning anything meaningful
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about the L.A. riots until I was almost an adult, even though I was I was a kid when they
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happened, that these things and you could certainly put Waco, Ruby Ridge, other events that happened
00:32:10.360
throughout the 1990s in the same bucket, that there is a very strong mainstream narrative on
00:32:17.440
all of these events that will stand and that will sort of become the official version of
00:32:23.020
history. And that if that is not challenged in the moment, then that becomes official history.
00:32:29.140
Nancy Pelosi at one point was talking about putting monuments at the United States Capitol
00:32:34.180
to Brian Sicknick and others for standing up and defending the Capitol, losing their life
00:32:40.240
to do so, even though, as as you've discussed here, it's it's it's simply not an accurate
00:32:47.000
I mean, that's what do we do? What do we do as a movement to prevent these things from
00:32:53.720
That's such an important point, because what the regime counts on is for these things to
00:33:01.080
the false narratives to crystallize to the point that they become sacred before they can be
00:33:08.000
challenged. And that's why it's so critical to challenge these things before the crystal of
00:33:13.920
the full crystallization takes place. And I think that was, you know, the Sicknick narrative
00:33:20.460
was successfully challenged before it became too sacred to be challenged. And that really opened
00:33:27.500
the door to subsequent challenges, including the big fedsurrection challenge to the official
00:33:32.800
narrative. So I think one important take home point to this is just how critical it is to get
00:33:38.600
in these things to challenge these narratives before they coalesce, before they become too
00:33:45.320
sacred, because then it becomes very difficult. You might have to wait a long time before you can
00:33:50.740
even revisit it. And, you know, it's interesting in that context, you know, CNN of all places ran this
00:33:57.800
extensive, and I have to say, excellent, high quality investigative, long form investigative piece
00:34:05.420
on the death of, of Terrence Yickey, associated with the Oklahoma City bombing.
00:34:15.040
He was a police officer in, in Oklahoma City who died under very mysterious circumstances.
00:34:23.580
Before, you know, I started talking about him on, on Twitter, like a couple of years ago, and
00:34:29.760
Wikipedia revised their whole description of him, but people can go and find, you know, read the CNN
00:34:36.340
report, listen to, go to YouTube, and there's a, something called Requiem for the Suicided, and you can
00:34:44.620
watch the, the episode on Terrence Yickey, but it looks like he was murdered. It looks like he was
00:34:53.000
murdered, and it was covered up as a suicide. That's what it's, it, that's what it looks like.
00:34:58.180
And, and not just murdered, but I mean, brutalized, tortured. Yeah.
00:35:02.980
To the point where it, it seemed like people were trying to get information out of him before he was
00:35:10.960
Uh, yes. And, and there's, there's other mysterious deaths. There's the death of Kenneth
00:35:17.560
Trenidue. That's another thing. He was definitely tortured in, in a, in a jail cell. And then, you
00:35:24.060
know, the biggest researcher on Oklahoma City, uh, was his brother, who is a real hero and pioneer in
00:35:31.620
uncovering the truth about Oklahoma City. But the point is, when Oklahoma City happened, it was a shocking
00:35:39.020
event. And it's, you know, it's a deeply tragic event. You know, there were some, you know, it's tragedy
00:35:44.720
what happened to Ashley Babbitt. Oklahoma City was on a different level. You know, children died. It's,
00:35:50.520
it was the, it was the most significant domestic terror attack in America's history when it happened.
00:35:56.940
And there were some challenges in the beginning, but it was all in a local level. I would compare it to
00:36:03.660
maybe like the Las Vegas massacre, where you had some, you know, local people asking some questions
00:36:09.460
for a while. And that was quickly overwhelmed by federal officials. And then you don't really hear
00:36:14.440
anything more from it. It was more of that situation in Oklahoma City, America Garland of all people was
00:36:20.320
the big coverup guy for Oklahoma. I was just going to ask you that who was the principal associate
00:36:24.800
attorney general that was sent by Janet Reno in 1995 down to Oklahoma City, which by the way, the, in,
00:36:32.380
in, in the X-Files movie, it actually opens as if Scully and Mulder are the, are working on the,
00:36:40.320
the first movie are working on the Oklahoma City bombing. But the person who was the principal
00:36:44.940
associate attorney general, deputy attorney general that was sent by Janet Reno to Oklahoma City to run
00:36:50.760
the, the entire investigation was none other than Merrick Garland.
00:36:55.160
No, it really is amazing. Current attorney general Merrick Garland and another key figure in, in, in this,
00:37:02.160
what looks to be a coverup, Eric Holder, you know, that these, these people, there's not their first
00:37:09.460
rodeo. There's a reason that people are chosen to become attorney general. And it would, in, in this
00:37:15.980
context, it would be interesting to revisit the case of Bill Barr. Why was he allowed to be attorney
00:37:21.660
general? Not saying he was associated with Oklahoma City, but maybe some other things. It, it, it's
00:37:27.360
clearly the kind of position where you have to put in your work. You have to been vetted thoroughly
00:37:32.960
by, wait, wait, you, you know, his connection though, right? For Bill Barr, right? What's that?
00:37:38.120
You know about Bill Barr's connection to the past, right? Sure. Well, I mean, the, there's the Epstein
00:37:43.700
stuff and a bunch of other stuff, but I'm, I don't. Bill Barr, what, uh, Bill Barr defended
00:37:50.860
the FBI snipers at Ruby Ridge. Interesting. That I didn't know. Interesting. Bill Barr defended
00:37:58.140
them. Uh, I have to, I'd have to look up, I can, I can pull something here. He organized
00:38:04.100
former attorneys general and others to quote, support an FBI sniper in defending against criminal
00:38:10.460
charges. It is back in the 1990s. Um, of course the killing of, of Randy Weaver's wife and her baby
00:38:17.320
in 1992, Bill Barr assisted in framing legal arguments and advanced in the district court
00:38:23.540
and subsequent appeal to the ninth circuit court, a quote charitable work, charitable work that was
00:38:30.920
done by Bill Barr out of the goodness of his heart for the sniper that took out Randy Weaver's family
00:38:35.940
at Ruby Ridge. Uh, it's remarkable, but not surprising. This is the kind of thing you need
00:38:42.080
on your resume to become attorney general. You need to put in this work, you need to demonstrate
00:38:46.920
fealty to the regime in the case of Garland and Holder that has to do with their conduct, um, with
00:38:55.900
respect to Oklahoma city. But this gets to the point about sacred before challenged before. I think now
00:39:02.760
the circumstances are actually more open than ever to actually revisit the Oklahoma city case with
00:39:11.000
respect to what really happened. It's a very dark thing. It's still, I think very uncomfortable for a
00:39:17.220
lot of Americans to digest, um, and very controversial for that reason. But I think there's more receptivity
00:39:25.620
to truth on that now than there would have been before the January six issue. I think the coverage
00:39:32.800
on January six that we've done at revolver and you've been that you've done and, you know, Tucker and
00:39:38.040
a handful of others who have really been stalwarts on January six has not only done the service of
00:39:44.560
presenting the truth about January six, but I think it's presented a broader opportunity, uh, that
00:39:50.980
otherwise would not exist for the American people to revisit some other events with the current
00:39:58.080
understanding of what the government is actually capable of. And you're seeing this, by the way,
00:40:01.940
you're seeing a reinvigoration of people going back and questioning the official narrative on many
00:40:06.220
of the great American scandals of the, of the modern era, the past decade, not only Oklahoma city,
00:40:13.280
Ruby Ridge, Waco, but even prior events like Watergate with Richard Nixon, like the assassination of
00:40:19.600
JFK though, though I admittedly, the assassination of JFK has always been questioned by the American
00:40:24.260
people. Uh, the, the fact though, that so many of, because it was just so egregious that so many of
00:40:30.960
these other events though, where the, the narrative has solidified, but it's also interesting because
00:40:35.040
in, in each of those events, uh, Waco, Ruby Ridge, and now Oklahoma city, you notice that it,
00:40:42.520
it, the narrative solidified if you were around in the nineties, but for the new generation,
00:40:48.360
that wasn't, wasn't around, it wasn't, or, or, or folks like that are my generation,
00:40:52.720
our generation that weren't necessarily paying attention to the news back then. Uh, the same,
00:40:58.700
we, we don't quite have the conditioning on, on this that used to exist in an era where there
00:41:05.880
were only three media networks. There were, you know, two national papers and then, you know,
00:41:10.400
one paper of record for every major city. And that's the way the media worked. And if you control that,
00:41:15.100
if you work with those people, then you would be able to set the mono narrative as the Obama
00:41:20.320
administration used to call it, the mono narrative. Well, the modern narrative doesn't exist anymore
00:41:24.640
because individual, uh, media, independent media like this operates revolver news,
00:41:30.860
post millennial human events.com, et cetera, et cetera. We have so many more outlets now that
00:41:35.400
we have a democratization. This is why Twitter and Elon Musk are so important. And Elon Musk to his
00:41:39.820
credit has again, going back to what you wrote in a, in a revolver about this, he has taken Twitter
00:41:47.200
and said, I want Twitter to be the source of truth, the greatest source of truth. He didn't say
00:41:54.180
that I want it to be the most profitable. I'm sure he does. Uh, he didn't say that I want Twitter to be
00:41:59.160
the most, uh, the most used. I don't want it. He didn't say I want the most kids,
00:42:03.420
the most celebrities. No, he said, I want it to be the source of truth. Why is that so important?
00:42:08.220
Well, I mean, it's, it's important because of how powerful the Twitter platform is, how the,
00:42:17.500
the network affects on Twitter. There's so many people and, uh, you know, it's a, it's a noble and
00:42:25.000
worthy goal to say, okay, uh, I want it to be the source of truth. I, you know, it's who's going to be
00:42:33.260
the arbiter of that. I hope that that doesn't reflect, uh, any tendencies towards sort of, uh,
00:42:42.540
No, no, no, no, no, no, no. I, I, I think, let me make sure I'm not misquoting him because he was
00:42:47.360
saying it in the context of, I want Twitter to be a free place where people can debate these things
00:42:53.460
and that official narratives can be challenged. Right. And I think on that score, that's a very
00:42:59.580
noble goal. And from a personal perspective, it does seem that Elon Musk has, um, more than
00:43:08.080
entertained serious challenges to official narratives on a wide range of things. Um, just the other day,
00:43:15.840
he was retweeting, um, you know, January six, uh, material and January six material from our
00:43:23.540
perspective in light of, uh, Tucker's segment. Um, he's been, um, perhaps unexpectedly, uh, courageous
00:43:33.700
and based in his defense of, uh, Dilbert and, and Scott Adams. He's, he's been unexpectedly
00:43:42.620
courageous on the COVID question and on a wide range of questions. Of course, the simple act of,
00:43:49.660
you know, this hostile takeover of Twitter is a monumental event and he deserves tremendous
00:43:55.180
credit for it. And so one thing that I've actually been, uh, been testing is, um, the use, and I'm
00:44:01.400
sure you've seen them on that. We've been on the program here, creating deep fakes of, uh, of
00:44:07.380
elected officials. Um, one of which the first one that just went completely viral millions of views
00:44:14.420
was of president Biden announcing a national draft, the invocation of the selective service act
00:44:20.740
to deal with military shortfalls. And of course the, the deteriorating conditions in, in the Ukraine
00:44:26.700
war. So it's, it's present. What we're doing is we're not making them outlandish and playing a video
00:44:31.720
game. We're, we're going in and saying, what would happen six months from now? What would happen eight
00:44:37.440
months from now? And then of course we also made one of AOC attacking Jack Posobiec for creating a
00:44:43.280
deep fake of president Biden, and then also attacking Elon Musk for refusing to delete it from the platform.
00:44:50.440
No, that's, that's hilarious and very interesting. I saw the, the Joe Biden one on the draft and,
00:44:56.340
um, no, it's, it was, he allowed it to fly. He allowed it to fly.
00:45:00.560
Yeah. There was a, there was a community note tag, but whatever.
00:45:04.920
Right. But the script was actually very good. The script was realistic. It read like
00:45:09.800
what he might actually say in that context. Um, thank you. It was, it was a, uh, it was a fascinating
00:45:17.820
exercise for sure. And, and I think that the test on our side was okay. You know, is Elon Musk going to
00:45:26.140
take us down? Is he going to allow this to fly? Now, of course we didn't make one of Elon,
00:45:29.040
but the question is, and what was interesting is to us as well is that we actually had, and of
00:45:34.000
course all the hit pieces and fact checks that were written up only served to further the video
00:45:38.860
more. Um, but one, uh, deep fake expert actually came out and said, look, I, I think this is a
00:45:46.060
legitimate use of this technology. What you're doing is political commentary, social commentary.
00:45:51.160
We're talking about a potential world war three situation. So sure. Why wouldn't we use the same
00:45:56.620
technology? By the way, it certainly falls under the legal auspices of parody or satire the same way
00:46:02.040
that when SNL gets a president, gets an actor who looks like the president and puts him on stage and
00:46:07.720
has him act and sound like the president, right? Nobody, nobody takes that down from social media.
00:46:13.260
The problem is, is now it's our side doing it. Right. I mean, there's the, everybody, you know,
00:46:19.600
the thing is, is people talk about the deep fake technology, but, um, the regime has had this
00:46:25.920
technology for a long time and they have much more sophisticated versions. So the real concern is that
00:46:31.240
now, now other people get to use it and can use it, uh, in contexts that are not necessarily
00:46:39.540
approved by the regime. So I think it's a fascinating frontier. That's my favorite response,
00:46:46.380
by the way, you'll, you'll like, this is, is, as of course, a lot of conservatives were even saying
00:46:50.740
to me, this is so inappropriate. How can you do this? This is terrible. What shouldn't use this
00:46:55.700
technology this way. And, and, and then they said, what do you think, how would you like it if the
00:47:01.020
media started doing this to you guys? Oh, really? How would I, how would I like it if the media started
00:47:05.600
lying about me and my friends and Donald Trump and it's just ridiculous? Right. Right. No, I,
00:47:12.820
I think that's, that's fascinating. You should do, you should do more. Oh, we're going to do more
00:47:18.000
and I'll do one of you next. Probably. We've got your audio here from the, praising, praising the FBI.
00:47:25.160
I was wrong. I was wrong about Ray Epps and he's that he and I actually went out for drinks last night
00:47:31.720
and it turns out he's a good guy. And we slept on some, my pillows, not together, separate rooms,
00:47:36.640
you know, but it would be great. It took me, took me to a cabin up in the woods and now I've seen the
00:47:42.640
light. Right. But that's, I think that's what they'd rather do to, to all of us. Now, um, the Nina
00:47:49.700
Yankovic is the world talking about suing us. Uh, everyone out there essentially saying, how can we shut
00:47:55.760
these people down? Because all we're doing, all we're, we're, we're looking at the same set of facts.
00:48:00.380
We're looking at it as everybody else. And I said, I've seen you at revolver do this as well.
00:48:04.100
All you're doing is you're adding one little piece of critical thinking to the same videos
00:48:10.000
and images that everyone else sees. Right. Right. No, it's all about the context. And that's,
00:48:18.620
that's why the media creates reality for better or worse, because they provide the context and the
00:48:25.020
framework in which and through which to perceive reality. And that's,
00:48:29.820
I should say as, as we wind down, congratulations to you, because I saw a Rasmussen poll last week.
00:48:36.020
And I mentioned this on, on stage and I gave you credit as well. There at CPAC 61% now, 61% of
00:48:44.180
American voters now believe that January six likely had federal involvement. 61%.
00:48:52.720
No, that's, oh, that's got to include Democrats as well.
00:49:01.200
That's remarkable. Yeah. I saw Thomas Massey mentioned this. I was wondering where,
00:49:06.580
where did that come from? But now it's, I'm glad to know it. There's a, there's a whole poll on it.
00:49:11.800
There's I'll, I'll, I'll make sure to send it to you. Darren, we're just about out of time. I want to
00:49:14.960
say thank you again for joining us on the Sunday special. Where can people go to follow you? Are you able to
00:49:19.640
give us any insights into what you're up to next? Revolver.news. We have some important pieces
00:49:26.780
coming up on, uh, an El Salvador and on a very significant first amendment case that I think
00:49:34.600
we've talked about, uh, Biden's justice department, trying to put a guy in jail for, for memes, put them
00:49:40.760
in jail for 10 years. And what this means is the Biden regime. Yeah. Trying to codify the
00:49:47.460
disinformation scam into the criminal code. So it's a very dangerous trend. We have a follow
00:49:52.380
up on that coming soon and maybe a little January six stuff as well. So people should stay tuned,
00:49:59.220
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