Human Events Daily with Jack Posobiec - Episode 611： JANUARY 6TH RETROSPECTIVE WITH DARREN BEATTIE

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00:00:57.340 This is what happens when the fourth turning meets fifth generation warfare.

00:01:06.420 A commentator, international social media sensation, and former Navy intelligence veteran.

00:01:13.140 This is Human Events with your host, Jack Posobiec.

00:01:16.060 Deliver us from evil.

00:01:18.020 Ladies and gentlemen, welcome aboard today's edition, Thanksgiving edition of Human Events

00:01:23.100 Daily, today is November 23rd, 2023, Anno Domini.

00:01:28.160 Happy Thanksgiving to everybody at home, and also would like to say happy Thanksgiving to

00:01:32.520 all the J6ers that remain behind bars right now, including a great friend of this show and 1.00

00:01:38.320 a personal friend, Owen Schroyer.

00:01:40.540 Today we've got a very special episode for you.

00:01:43.180 This is our retrospective on January 6th.

00:01:46.180 The truth about January 6th, and the man who sat down with us to record this interview

00:01:53.080 was none other than the great Darren Beattie.

00:01:55.660 We go through the truth of what happened that day, the fact that violence was started by the

00:02:01.220 police to incite the crowd, rather than the crowd committing violence on the Capitol.

00:02:08.420 This is not an insurrection.

00:02:09.900 This was a horrific tragedy, and possibly a setup.

00:02:14.560 Stay tuned.

00:02:15.120 Let's check it out.

00:02:16.180 Our democracy is under an unprecedented assault, unlike anything we've seen in modern times.

00:02:25.200 An assault on the citadel of liberty, the Capitol itself.

00:02:33.000 An assault on the people's representatives, and the Capitol Hill police sworn to protect

00:02:40.040 them, and the public servants who work at the heart of our republic.

00:02:49.060 An assault on the rule of law like a few times we've ever seen it.

00:02:56.060 An assault on the most sacred of American undertakings.

00:03:00.920 The doing of the people's business.

00:03:01.940 The doing of the people's business.

00:03:06.340 Let me be very clear.

00:03:08.940 The scenes of chaos at the Capitol do not reflect a true America.

00:03:14.360 Do not represent who we are.

00:03:18.100 What we're seeing are.

00:03:20.120 What we're seeing are a small number of extremists dedicated to lawlessness.

00:03:26.060 This is not dissent.

00:03:28.060 This is not dissent.

00:03:29.080 It's disorder.

00:03:30.920 It's chaos.

00:03:32.800 It borders on sedition.

00:03:34.580 So I hide behind my door like this, like I'm here, and the bathroom door starts going

00:03:42.900 like this, like the bathroom door is behind me, or rather in front of me, and I'm like

00:03:47.420 this, and the door hinges right here, and I just hear, where is she?

00:03:52.580 Where is she?

00:03:53.560 And, um, this was the moment where I thought everything was over.

00:04:05.220 Here's where things stand.

00:04:06.900 That Trump mob that attacked the citadel of our democracy, our Capitol, they're being rounded

00:04:13.660 up and charged.

00:04:15.140 It's happening.

00:04:16.500 We're learning more about who they are.

00:04:19.180 They're not getting a pass, at least not yet.

00:04:21.200 As for who started it, feds say they're looking into Trump himself.

00:04:28.040 Now, as a matter of fact, this is obvious.

00:04:32.360 Trump whipped up these special people that he loves with lie after lie.

00:04:39.080 The January 6th insurrection shook our republic to the core.

00:04:43.840 For many in the Congress and across our country, the physical, psychological, and emotional scars

00:04:49.700 are still raw.

00:04:51.200 Yet from the unspeakable horror sprang extraordinary heroism, law enforcement heroes confronted the

00:04:58.900 insurrectionists to protect the Capitol, the Congress, and our Constitution.

00:05:05.160 They militarized our Capitol.

00:05:07.840 They occupied Washington, D.C.

00:05:10.460 Not like the Occupy Wall Street movement.

00:05:14.220 No, no, no.

00:05:15.600 Occupied with military force.

00:05:17.600 I remember I was there.

00:05:18.340 I couldn't park my car at work when I was working for another network at the time.

00:05:22.700 I had to show ID to get through a military checkpoint just to go to work every day.

00:05:28.660 This lasted for months.

00:05:30.280 When Joe Biden was inaugurated, there was a crowd of no one.

00:05:36.480 There were no cheering fans.

00:05:38.640 There was no audience.

00:05:40.400 Remember, we used to have all those arguments and debates.

00:05:42.920 And Sean Spicer used to get into it.

00:05:44.560 What was Trump's inauguration size?

00:05:47.020 What was Obama's inauguration size?

00:05:48.720 Well, you know what?

00:05:49.760 It's a lot better than Joe Biden's.

00:05:51.920 Joe Biden's didn't exist.

00:05:54.120 And all of this was done to usher in a regime.

00:05:59.160 Well, someone who's done more work on that than I think anybody, and more work specifically

00:06:02.700 on January 6th, now joins us, the editor of Revolver News, Darren Beattie.

00:06:07.140 Darren, thank you so much for joining us.

00:06:09.020 Great to be with you, Jack.

00:06:11.220 Now, let me ask you, what is your take on, and I'll say this, I'll put it this way, the

00:06:17.080 footage that we've seen thus far from Tucker Carlson, and how does it relate to

00:06:24.040 the yeoman's work that you have done at Revolver?

00:06:28.940 Well, I think Tucker was the perfect choice to be the custodian of this footage, at least

00:06:35.840 for now.

00:06:36.280 I hope eventually it's made public and generally available.

00:06:41.900 But I think Tucker's done a great job in covering comprehensively the January 6th lie

00:06:48.920 and choosing his footage examples to cover every dimension, sub-dimension of that lie.

00:06:56.200 So on Monday night, he showed footage reinforcing our understanding that this wasn't, generally

00:07:05.480 speaking, a violent mob.

00:07:07.180 Overwhelmingly, most people who even went into the Capitol were respectful, obedient, even

00:07:14.220 in many cases, reverential.

00:07:18.540 They were simply in awe of the Capitol.

00:07:21.180 They found it interesting.

00:07:22.560 They took pictures.

00:07:24.200 They left.

00:07:25.020 And that was the end of it.

00:07:26.560 There were a handful of people vandalizing, and Tucker called them out, as I have.

00:07:30.940 But the overwhelming weight of the story is, look, most people, even inside the Capitol,

00:07:37.800 were just moseying about taking pictures, not being destructive.

00:07:42.700 So that was one element of it.

00:07:44.760 The second element of it was he had footage of now-deceased Capitol Police Officer Brian

00:07:52.120 Sicknick. 0.98

00:07:52.600 The reason that this is important is it draws attention to the initial, maybe the original 0.64

00:07:59.740 sin of the Fed's erection, the prelude to the larger lie of the Fed's erection, and that 0.51

00:08:05.820 was the circumstances surrounding this officer's death.

00:08:10.160 And people may not remember it now, but the very first piece that Revolver.News ever did on

00:08:16.020 January 6th wasn't about Ray Epps, wasn't about Pipe Bomb, wasn't about any of those things.

00:08:21.400 It was about the death of Officer Sicknick.

00:08:25.160 The title of the piece was deliberately provocative, MAGA Blood Libel.

00:08:31.600 And indeed, that's what it was, because the whole narrative, everyone, every corridor in

00:08:38.220 the regime media, you heard the refrain, it was bludgeoned to death with a fire extinguisher.

00:08:45.520 The frothing, rabid MAGA mob bludgeoned and murdered this Capitol Police officer.

00:08:54.780 Now, Revolver News did very extensive reporting on this, saying, look, there's no way he was

00:09:00.020 bludgeoned to death.

00:09:00.960 That's simply false. 0.98

00:09:02.320 And it's a lie.

00:09:03.860 And it's a knowing, you know, it's a deliberate lie on the part of the regime media.

00:09:08.720 So finally, they switched the story.

00:09:12.400 They say, OK, maybe he was a bludgeoned to death with a fire extinguisher, like we've been

00:09:15.880 telling you from every media mouthpiece ad infinitum for the past month or so.

00:09:22.160 He actually died as a result of bear spray.

00:09:25.940 Some MAGA people sprayed him with bear spray and he died as a result of that.

00:09:30.220 Well, Revolver News jumped on that, specifically a New York Times story that provided all these

00:09:36.560 images suggesting he was sprayed by these particular people.

00:09:40.480 Well, we did a very detailed comparative image analysis and concluded that he wasn't

00:09:46.920 even sprayed by, you know, the people that-

00:09:48.900 If I remember correctly, you actually, if I remember correctly, you actually did a spectral

00:09:54.800 analysis of the images themselves to find where- I remember this because I said, of course,

00:10:01.440 Darren is going to go to this level because that's what we need, is you did a spectral

00:10:04.980 analysis of the images themselves to determine the direction of the spray as relates to where

00:10:14.280 the specific position of Sicknick and where he was standing was essentially perpendicular.

00:10:20.160 So aside from the direction that the spray was directed, thereby in saying that he could

00:10:26.020 not have been hit by it.

00:10:27.520 Exactly.

00:10:28.040 And if you'll permit a brief detour, this is interesting on a number of levels.

00:10:34.360 So there were two people that basically bore the brunt of the false media narrative because

00:10:39.900 the narrative was, oh, he died as a result of bear spray.

00:10:42.560 Who did the bear spray?

00:10:43.520 Well, there are two people-

00:10:43.980 It's the guys out of West Virginia, right?

00:10:45.900 Exactly.

00:10:46.860 Tanios and Cater.

00:10:48.220 He's like a short-order cook.

00:10:51.420 Yeah.

00:10:52.080 They're hapless individuals.

00:10:55.900 They weren't up to any kind of mastermind issue.

00:10:58.460 But one really interesting thing here is that as part of the charges, and they were hit with

00:11:03.900 very serious charges, I think with a maximum prison sentence of like 50 years, something

00:11:09.440 like that.

00:11:10.140 And Ken, they couldn't say they didn't charge with attempted murder, which was interesting,

00:11:14.860 but the charge level is very high.

00:11:16.940 They're facing 50 years.

00:11:18.760 And as part of the alleged conspiracy, the government said, look, they had an exchange

00:11:25.380 in which one of the individuals asked the other, is it time for the bear spray?

00:11:31.180 Can I get the bear spray?

00:11:32.960 And then the other individual said, no, no, not yet.

00:11:36.960 Simply the word yet was interpreted as meaning, oh, there was a plan to do something bad with

00:11:44.020 the bear spray in the future, and this constituted a conspiracy, and they were hit with very serious

00:11:50.460 conspiracy charges.

00:11:51.500 Now, fast forward, I'm going somewhere with this, and that is an underreported and underappreciated

00:12:00.420 exchange between Ray Epps and another individual known to researchers as Maroon Proudboy.

00:12:08.560 This is right by that initial breach site, just moments before the breach.

00:12:14.260 This is all on tape.

00:12:17.020 You can go to revolver.news, the Meet Ray Epps Part 2 series, and watch this.

00:12:21.660 Fascinating exchange.

00:12:22.940 Maroon Proudboy, who ended up going in the Capitol and being one of the very aggressive 0.90

00:12:27.540 vandals, by the way.

00:12:29.580 He's a very interesting and suspicious character in his own right.

00:12:33.300 But this Maroon Proudboy had bear spray in his hands. 0.96

00:12:36.040 Of all things, bear spray.

00:12:37.320 And Ray Epps tells him, when we go in, leave this here.

00:12:45.080 When we go in, leave this here.

00:12:48.400 We don't want to get shot.

00:12:51.920 So by the very same theory of conspiracy by which the government charged Tanios and Cater

00:12:59.540 with very serious charges, long-term prison sentences, they could have easily, by that

00:13:05.060 standard, charged Epps for saying, when we go in, leave this here.

00:13:10.980 Especially because the guy he was talking to ended up going in and causing a lot of destruction.

00:13:17.140 And yet, nothing.

00:13:18.880 And amazingly, it came out in the January 6th committee transcript of their interrogation

00:13:25.940 of Epps, which was a total farce and disgrace, principally because Adam Kinzinger appointed

00:13:32.120 himself as Ray Epps' lead counsel, effectively.

00:13:36.860 He was defending him more aggressively and creatively than Epps' own lawyer, who happened,

00:13:42.600 incidentally, to be a nine-year veteran of the Phoenix FBI field office.

00:13:46.100 But amazingly, someone else, there are other committee members who are unnamed in this exchange

00:13:51.560 who seem to be extremely puzzled by the whole Epps situation.

00:13:56.820 They're obedient enough dogs that they understand, OK, we understand we're supposed to be pro-Epps,

00:14:03.380 but this is weird.

00:14:04.920 And in fact, one of them even brought up that specific video that I mentioned of Epps saying,

00:14:10.500 when we go in, because Epps told them, he told the committee, originally, I thought it would be

00:14:17.400 legal to go into the Capitol.

00:14:19.380 What?

00:14:20.040 Mr. Epps, you were saying, I'm probably going to get arrested for this.

00:14:24.280 I'm probably going to go to jail for this.

00:14:26.660 Oh, that's just, that was just a poor choice of words.

00:14:29.560 Yeah, that was just a poor choice of words.

00:14:32.260 But when we got to the bike racks on the west side of the Capitol, I abandoned all notion of

00:14:38.560 going in or having anyone else go in.

00:14:40.440 Well, the video that I just mentioned, that verbal exchange completely contradicts that.

00:14:45.640 And amazingly, someone from the committee actually brought it up.

00:14:49.220 And Epps was saying, oh, yeah, that was, I don't know about that. 0.94

00:14:53.680 I mean, it's ridiculous. 0.70

00:14:54.740 I've said in other contexts, it's like Ray Epps is the shaggy of January 6th because it's 0.88

00:15:01.460 like, it wasn't me.

00:15:02.460 Oh, they caught you on camera here.

00:15:03.840 It wasn't me.

00:15:04.500 Oh, they caught you by the bike rack.

00:15:06.240 It wasn't me.

00:15:07.080 They caught you in the BLM on you.

00:15:09.980 It wasn't me.

00:15:10.800 It was like, I'm going to ask my producers to do a, we're going to have to do the auto

00:15:15.320 tune of you with.

00:15:16.380 Yeah, no, it's like, it's perfect.

00:15:18.120 It wasn't me.

00:15:19.080 Like, that's, that's the level of chutzpah and just like detachment.

00:15:22.580 We caught you on Freedom Plaza.

00:15:25.040 In this, in this exchange.

00:15:26.760 Um, but yes, uh, this is, uh, you know, and by the way, this, this, this goes to Tucker

00:15:34.460 because Tucker caught him on the stairs.

00:15:36.400 We caught you on the stairs.

00:15:38.160 This was, he had said that he had testified under oath, which, which is yet another lie.

00:15:45.960 And you can argue with, it was the biggest lie, but it's, it's the fact that he's never

00:15:49.580 actually told the truth.

00:15:50.900 Right.

00:15:51.400 So he, he testifies, which you'd imagine that his lawyer would have at least asked to

00:15:55.720 see the tapes at some point or, or just going through, because this was outdoors.

00:15:59.060 It wasn't even indoors, but you can see that at the point that he testified that he had

00:16:03.320 already left, he was still climbing the stairs to the Capitol.

00:16:07.400 Absolutely.

00:16:08.080 So many lies.

00:16:09.280 So where am I getting backtracked to the, to Tucker's segment on Monday, he touches every

00:16:15.420 single important dimension.

00:16:16.920 One dimension.

00:16:17.840 They were mostly, you know, just kind of hanging out.

00:16:21.420 They weren't destructive.

00:16:22.600 Even the people in the Capitol, they were just taking pictures.

00:16:25.120 So he covered that with the footage, he covered the Brian Sicknick thing, which I think a

00:16:29.360 lot of people must've forgotten about this, but this was the original sin, the original

00:16:33.280 big lie, the original blood lie.

00:16:37.380 Darren, why?

00:16:38.580 And thirdly, he covered the kind of most explosive and provocative dimension of it, uh, for which

00:16:49.260 Revolver News is reporting is best known.

00:16:51.460 And that is the Fed element by exposing Ray Epps and yet another provable lie that he gave

00:16:58.740 to the committee and the committee didn't care at all.

00:17:01.440 Just further reinforcing our understanding that Ray Epps enjoys an absolutely insane degree

00:17:10.220 of protection on the government from the self-appointed J6 witch hunters to a degree that simply defies 1.00

00:17:17.780 any innocent explanation.

00:17:19.680 It's very clear.

00:17:20.800 Ray Epps is the smoking gun of the Fed's direction.

00:17:23.160 And Tucker's segment confirms that if we, if there was any remaining doubt, Darren, why

00:17:31.600 was this blood libel?

00:17:35.240 Brian Sicknick.

00:17:36.140 And by the way, you're exactly right that I can go to just about anybody out on the street

00:17:41.820 here in DC.

00:17:42.960 You could probably go in any major city and say, Hey, what happened on January 6th?

00:17:46.780 They said, Oh, they, they killed a bunch of cops.

00:17:48.420 They would say Trump supporters killed a bunch of cops, right? 0.89

00:17:51.500 They attacked the Capitol, killed a bunch of cops.

00:17:54.120 And, and it's just not true.

00:17:55.440 And it's never been true, but why, why did it need to be true?

00:17:59.620 Why was this pushed so hard from the highest levels?

00:18:03.640 Why has it always been stated?

00:18:05.100 Why was it that the April 2nd, I mean, we already know the reason, but you know, the April

00:18:09.060 2nd actual murder of a Capitol police officer named Billy Evans, just a few, just three months

00:18:15.620 after January 6th.

00:18:18.300 And it's never even spoken up when he was killed by a nation of Islam member who drove his car 1.00

00:18:24.560 into the Capitol.

00:18:25.480 This is after the military and the national guard had left and the barricades had come

00:18:28.800 down.

00:18:29.400 Nobody talks about Billy Evans, the only Capitol police officer murdered on the job in 20 years.

00:18:36.700 Why was the Brian Sicknick story so important for the regime, Darren?

00:18:41.540 One word deadly, the death of Brian Sicknick and the false narrative behind it is what enabled

00:18:50.820 the press to put deadly insurrection on all of their headlines and therefore reinforce what

00:18:57.140 they wanted out of this lie to begin with, to frame all Trump supporters as potential terrorists,

00:19:04.180 as domestic terrorists. 1.00

00:19:06.640 You need a death, you need a body. 0.92

00:19:09.360 And, you know, for obvious reasons, they weren't going to go with Ashley Babbitt's body here

00:19:13.780 because that's, you know, that's what really makes it deadly, but that doesn't really fit

00:19:17.760 their narrative.

00:19:18.360 So they needed some pretext to call it deadly.

00:19:21.580 And the death of Brian Sicknick saying, oh, they bludgeoned him to death.

00:19:26.200 They bear sprayed him.

00:19:27.420 He died from that.

00:19:28.340 That enabled them to say the death, the murderous mob, the deadly insurrection.

00:19:35.400 You know, it reminds me, it reminds me a little bit of something that happened in a place called

00:19:41.340 Ukraine in 2014 and the Maidan protest, which then became the Maidan massacre, the deadly

00:19:51.060 Maidan massacre.

00:19:52.920 Which is, of course, if you listen to any corporate media, which was conducted by the

00:19:58.120 president of Ukraine himself, he ordered his his secret police to open fire on the crowd.

00:20:04.880 He was behind the deadly Maidan massacre.

00:20:07.520 And that was used to throw him out of office. 0.72

00:20:11.140 But, Darren, that was a color revolution.

00:20:14.100 We'd never see anything like that here in the United States within our own shores, would

00:20:17.140 we?

00:20:17.300 Right.

00:20:19.000 Well, that's a that's a very interesting point, especially because one of the principal

00:20:23.800 U.S. figures associated with that, with Maidan, it's none other than Victoria Newland, who 0.70

00:20:31.120 is presently a very senior official in Biden's State Department and who is basically named in

00:20:37.340 the controversial and unsubstantiated, but potentially at least partially true account

00:20:42.920 given by Seymour Hersh of the U.S. plan to destroy Nord Stream.

00:20:48.200 She's been a she's been in this game for a long time and she's one of the principal players

00:20:53.140 now in foreign policy, shaping our disastrous involvement and escalation and prolongation of

00:21:02.760 this this conflict in Ukraine.

00:21:06.580 But way back in the Obama administration, you know, even back before that, she was one

00:21:13.220 of these principal architects of color revolution.

00:21:15.900 She was there in Ukraine, you know, ginning up these these protests.

00:21:22.860 And, you know, it's funny that this comes up because, you know, before January 6th, Revolver

00:21:29.540 News is probably best known for we did a pretty impactful series covering the color revolution.

00:21:35.500 And the principal thesis there was not just that the method, the color revolution methodologies

00:21:42.980 that we would typically deploy in, you know, Eastern Europe and not just Eastern Europe.

00:21:48.940 You see it a lot of places these days, but they're principally associated with Eastern Europe.

00:21:54.580 For instance, the Orange Revolution is basically where the whole idea of the color revolution 0.72

00:22:00.240 comes from.

00:22:01.980 But that we were that U.S. officials in particular, a specific sub-faction of the national security

00:22:10.020 state, this Atlantis faction, was deploying the same methodology domestically in order to cripple

00:22:17.700 Trump in the lead up to the presidential election.

00:22:20.400 And that wasn't just the same methodology.

00:22:23.220 It was the same people.

00:22:24.860 And that was the principal thesis of the color revolution theory, the series that Revolver.news

00:22:29.920 did.

00:22:30.340 And we covered people like George Kent, who was a major figure who's associated with Trump's

00:22:36.200 impeachment.

00:22:37.040 He was also a senior State Department official who was a color revolution architect.

00:22:42.340 The most famous one that we drew attention to is this individual called Norm Eisen, who

00:22:47.460 literally wrote a book called The Playbook, which is like an instruction manual for how

00:22:52.920 to conduct color revolutions.

00:22:56.380 And you could see him following each prescription to the T, not only in his role in foreign affairs

00:23:04.700 context, but principally in a domestic context in order to go after Trump.

00:23:08.900 He is the most decorated legal hatchet man against Trump, a lawfare architect against Trump.

00:23:19.020 And it turns out his fingerprints, incidentally, are all over January 6th.

00:23:22.900 We did a big piece on that, that the January 6th impeachment traces all the way back to lawfare

00:23:31.760 efforts that Norm Eisen was doing with his lawfare companion, Joseph Sellers.

00:23:37.480 The two collaborated very early on, you'll remember, they were trying to get Trump for

00:23:42.500 violations of the emoluments clause.

00:23:44.880 This goes back very early.

00:23:47.020 And that collaborative effort also germinated what emerged into Benny Thompson's lawsuit against

00:23:55.380 Trump for January 6th, in which he laid out the same theory of the case, that Trump was

00:24:00.820 responsible for criminal incitement and so forth.

00:24:03.820 So why somebody who had a personal lawsuit like that, with a theory of the case already

00:24:10.000 laid out, would be appointed to head an ostensibly neutral fact-finding body for January 6th?

00:24:18.280 Well, if we weren't, you know, a banana republic at this point, that would have been called

00:24:22.840 a conflict of interest.

00:24:24.020 But that was really Benny Thompson's selling point, I think, from the standpoint of the

00:24:29.600 regime.

00:24:30.300 But this goes back a long way.

00:24:32.440 And I would also, oh, just know, just to add to your incredible reporting, because you're,

00:24:37.200 I think you're the person, person that made Norm Eisen famous.

00:24:40.200 Yeah.

00:24:40.580 But folks, remember that Time magazine article, I pulled it up here, the secret history of

00:24:48.640 the shadow campaign that saved 2020 by Molly Ball, February 4th, 2021, because, you know,

00:24:55.680 the killer always comes back to the scene of the crime.

00:24:58.680 The killer always has to make sure that, you know, writes the letter to the police to say,

00:25:03.440 I just want to let you know that you couldn't get me.

00:25:05.940 Well, Darren, who's one of the very first people mentioned in that article, the secret

00:25:12.580 history of the shadow campaign to fortify the election of 2020 is Norm Eisen himself, a

00:25:21.500 prominent, this is how they, how they describe him, a prominent lawyer and former Obama official

00:25:26.640 who recruited both Republicans and Democrats to the board of what he called the voter protection

00:25:34.200 program.

00:25:35.940 Right.

00:25:37.020 Voter protection program.

00:25:39.720 So intimately involved with the details of what we saw here in 20.

00:25:44.320 Remember, this was the same article that stated that they weren't sure if they needed riots

00:25:52.440 and mobs and attacks and violence in the wake of the 2020 election.

00:25:57.280 But if so needed, they could be called upon that literally stated right there in Time magazine

00:26:03.580 saying, basically, and I'm just going to cut to the chase, that this is a color revolution.

00:26:09.180 We are the architects of it.

00:26:10.720 We have created it.

00:26:11.740 Norm Eisen is taking credit for it.

00:26:13.320 He obviously wants credit for it.

00:26:15.680 Right.

00:26:15.980 Which is a very human, a human endeavor to want credit.

00:26:20.380 You want, you know, want recognition for what you've done.

00:26:23.660 And they're basically saying that this is why all of these things happens because it was

00:26:28.280 happened.

00:26:28.720 It happened at our design.

00:26:29.700 We saw it all within a 12 month span.

00:26:32.920 George Floyd, Wuhan, the CCP, the Hunter Biden laptop and the squelching of that.

00:26:40.020 And then it, of course, culminates in January 6.

00:26:43.360 And then one month after January 6, this article comes out in Time magazine.

00:26:47.820 And Darren, my argument, and I made this earlier in the week, is that the reason that January

00:26:53.520 6 as the culmination of everything that happened in 2020 must stand up and why this narrative

00:27:01.880 must be protected.

00:27:02.880 And you notice, by the way, it's protected by people on both sides of the aisle.

00:27:06.280 The uniparties absolutely circled the wagons on this thing.

00:27:09.600 Right.

00:27:10.200 Because it is the justification, right?

00:27:12.820 So it creates the mental and emotional resonance for a justification for all the insanity of

00:27:18.900 2020, why all the norms, the rules for elections, why you had to stay in your home, but these

00:27:26.620 people could go out and riot, why militants could take over a 12 square block radius of

00:27:31.080 downtown Seattle, why the Portland federal building could be attacked for 59 nights straight

00:27:35.160 and not a single person arrested or anything meaningful done.

00:27:38.380 Why was all this done?

00:27:39.880 Because of January 6.

00:27:41.780 And even though we know that chronologically it makes no sense, but they say we were trying

00:27:47.560 to protect you from something like this happening.

00:27:50.440 And now that it has happened, this, to your point, a deadly insurrection was what we were

00:27:56.600 trying to protect you from all along.

00:27:58.960 Yes, I think there could absolutely be an element like that of retrofitting.

00:28:07.780 And yes, it's there's the response to January 6 has certainly been far more profound than whatever

00:28:18.280 trivial response there was to, you know, the Antifa, the BLM and so forth.

00:28:24.600 And, you know, as we've learned now, we were critical at the time, but now it's basically

00:28:29.600 public record that, you know, Barr didn't want to do anything about any of that, which is

00:28:35.180 kind of a sad state of affairs.

00:28:38.340 You know, this was all going on, you know, under Trump's presidency and his own attorney

00:28:44.580 general refused to do anything about it when people were burning down streets, rioting

00:28:50.520 and so forth.

00:28:51.640 And, you know, there was even an attack on the White House that, you know, people don't

00:28:57.600 really talk about anymore.

00:28:58.700 There was even an attack on the White House and really no.

00:29:02.140 Well, no, no, Darren, no, no, no, because because General Milley did did talk about it because

00:29:06.180 he apologized for appearing in a in a walking line with the president after they cleared

00:29:15.580 out the rioters who were setting fire to Secret Service encampments, the Secret Service facilities

00:29:21.680 that extend beyond the grounds of directly the White House.

00:29:24.640 So that's there's Lafayette Square, Lafayette Park Square.

00:29:26.720 That's right there.

00:29:27.360 There's St. John's Historic Church, which was also set on fire.

00:29:29.760 So, yes, it was cleared out.

00:29:31.960 General Milley and President Trump walk out in this very famous moment.

00:29:36.120 He holds the Bible up in front of St. John's basically to say, you know, we are going we

00:29:40.260 are not going to allow this to happen.

00:29:41.440 Keep in mind, I mean, we are told that that that wasn't a big deal and it was just a protest.

00:29:48.260 And even though the Secret Service did, by the way, rush the president into the bunker because

00:29:52.680 they weren't sure what was going to go on.

00:29:54.320 They weren't sure if people were going to get inside.

00:29:56.160 So they decided to take precaution.

00:29:57.800 Now, compare that to the reaction of January 6th, where, as we've now seen the videos of

00:30:04.920 people simply stumbling around in some cases, shuffling about in Statuary Hall and other

00:30:11.420 areas, as as Norm MacDonald famously tweeted at the time that they were staying within the

00:30:18.000 velvet ropes, these violent terrorists, the great Norm MacDonald, late great Norm MacDonald,

00:30:23.720 that.

00:30:25.960 We were told that everybody was about to be killed.

00:30:29.120 And by the way, that that is what justifies the murder of Ashley Babbitt, because these these

00:30:35.860 heinous individuals were about to go in and murder everyone in the Capitol.

00:30:40.120 And it simply wasn't true.

00:30:42.580 Right.

00:30:43.160 Now, that's a great point about Ashley Babbitt, because, again, they wanted to use the term

00:30:49.060 deadly, but it's kind of hard to do that if, you know, the most conspicuous death is the

00:30:55.420 death of Ashley Babbitt, who was unarmed and pretty much shot in cold blood.

00:30:59.960 You could say they needed something like the death of Sicknick to not just balance that

00:31:07.860 out, but to totally obscure it.

00:31:09.960 And so, yes, this is absolutely, as I say, it was the original sin, the original big lie

00:31:16.180 of January 6th was the circumstances surrounding the tragic death of Brian Sicknick, but the death,

00:31:24.740 which has now been revealed because by natural events, natural causes is the now the story that

00:31:34.920 even the New York Times concedes is the accurate description of how he died.

00:31:42.000 Well, Darren, so let me ask you this question, because it feels like the history books are

00:31:46.480 already kind of moving on from this.

00:31:48.000 And I had Heather MacDonald on here a couple of weeks ago on a Sunday special, and I talked

00:31:54.100 about the fact that I remember not learning about the L.A. riots or learning anything meaningful

00:31:59.320 about the L.A. riots until I was almost an adult, even though I was I was a kid when they

00:32:03.900 happened, that these things and you could certainly put Waco, Ruby Ridge, other events that happened

00:32:10.360 throughout the 1990s in the same bucket, that there is a very strong mainstream narrative on

00:32:17.440 all of these events that will stand and that will sort of become the official version of

00:32:23.020 history. And that if that is not challenged in the moment, then that becomes official history.

00:32:29.140 Nancy Pelosi at one point was talking about putting monuments at the United States Capitol

00:32:34.180 to Brian Sicknick and others for standing up and defending the Capitol, losing their life

00:32:40.240 to do so, even though, as as you've discussed here, it's it's it's simply not an accurate

00:32:45.560 depiction of what happened. Right.

00:32:47.000 I mean, that's what do we do? What do we do as a movement to prevent these things from

00:32:52.460 happening?

00:32:53.720 That's such an important point, because what the regime counts on is for these things to

00:33:01.080 the false narratives to crystallize to the point that they become sacred before they can be

00:33:08.000 challenged. And that's why it's so critical to challenge these things before the crystal of

00:33:13.920 the full crystallization takes place. And I think that was, you know, the Sicknick narrative

00:33:20.460 was successfully challenged before it became too sacred to be challenged. And that really opened

00:33:27.500 the door to subsequent challenges, including the big fedsurrection challenge to the official

00:33:32.800 narrative. So I think one important take home point to this is just how critical it is to get

00:33:38.600 in these things to challenge these narratives before they coalesce, before they become too

00:33:45.320 sacred, because then it becomes very difficult. You might have to wait a long time before you can

00:33:50.740 even revisit it. And, you know, it's interesting in that context, you know, CNN of all places ran this

00:33:57.800 extensive, and I have to say, excellent, high quality investigative, long form investigative piece

00:34:05.420 on the death of, of Terrence Yickey, associated with the Oklahoma City bombing.

00:34:12.800 Who was Terrence Yickey, Darren?

00:34:15.040 He was a police officer in, in Oklahoma City who died under very mysterious circumstances.

00:34:23.580 Before, you know, I started talking about him on, on Twitter, like a couple of years ago, and

00:34:29.760 Wikipedia revised their whole description of him, but people can go and find, you know, read the CNN

00:34:36.340 report, listen to, go to YouTube, and there's a, something called Requiem for the Suicided, and you can

00:34:44.620 watch the, the episode on Terrence Yickey, but it looks like he was murdered. It looks like he was

00:34:53.000 murdered, and it was covered up as a suicide. That's what it's, it, that's what it looks like.

00:34:58.180 And, and not just murdered, but I mean, brutalized, tortured. Yeah.

00:35:02.980 To the point where it, it seemed like people were trying to get information out of him before he was

00:35:08.960 killed.

00:35:10.960 Uh, yes. And, and there's, there's other mysterious deaths. There's the death of Kenneth

00:35:17.560 Trenidue. That's another thing. He was definitely tortured in, in a, in a jail cell. And then, you

00:35:24.060 know, the biggest researcher on Oklahoma City, uh, was his brother, who is a real hero and pioneer in

00:35:31.620 uncovering the truth about Oklahoma City. But the point is, when Oklahoma City happened, it was a shocking

00:35:39.020 event. And it's, you know, it's a deeply tragic event. You know, there were some, you know, it's tragedy

00:35:44.720 what happened to Ashley Babbitt. Oklahoma City was on a different level. You know, children died. It's,

00:35:50.520 it was the, it was the most significant domestic terror attack in America's history when it happened.

00:35:56.940 And there were some challenges in the beginning, but it was all in a local level. I would compare it to

00:36:03.660 maybe like the Las Vegas massacre, where you had some, you know, local people asking some questions

00:36:09.460 for a while. And that was quickly overwhelmed by federal officials. And then you don't really hear

00:36:14.440 anything more from it. It was more of that situation in Oklahoma City, America Garland of all people was

00:36:20.320 the big coverup guy for Oklahoma. I was just going to ask you that who was the principal associate

00:36:24.800 attorney general that was sent by Janet Reno in 1995 down to Oklahoma City, which by the way, the, in,

00:36:32.380 in, in the X-Files movie, it actually opens as if Scully and Mulder are the, are working on the,

00:36:40.320 the first movie are working on the Oklahoma City bombing. But the person who was the principal

00:36:44.940 associate attorney general, deputy attorney general that was sent by Janet Reno to Oklahoma City to run

00:36:50.760 the, the entire investigation was none other than Merrick Garland.

00:36:55.160 No, it really is amazing. Current attorney general Merrick Garland and another key figure in, in, in this,

00:37:02.160 what looks to be a coverup, Eric Holder, you know, that these, these people, there's not their first

00:37:09.460 rodeo. There's a reason that people are chosen to become attorney general. And it would, in, in this

00:37:15.980 context, it would be interesting to revisit the case of Bill Barr. Why was he allowed to be attorney

00:37:21.660 general? Not saying he was associated with Oklahoma City, but maybe some other things. It, it, it's

00:37:27.360 clearly the kind of position where you have to put in your work. You have to been vetted thoroughly

00:37:32.960 by, wait, wait, you, you know, his connection though, right? For Bill Barr, right? What's that?

00:37:38.120 You know about Bill Barr's connection to the past, right? Sure. Well, I mean, the, there's the Epstein

00:37:43.700 stuff and a bunch of other stuff, but I'm, I don't. Bill Barr, what, uh, Bill Barr defended

00:37:50.860 the FBI snipers at Ruby Ridge. Interesting. That I didn't know. Interesting. Bill Barr defended

00:37:58.140 them. Uh, I have to, I'd have to look up, I can, I can pull something here. He organized

00:38:04.100 former attorneys general and others to quote, support an FBI sniper in defending against criminal

00:38:10.460 charges. It is back in the 1990s. Um, of course the killing of, of Randy Weaver's wife and her baby

00:38:17.320 in 1992, Bill Barr assisted in framing legal arguments and advanced in the district court

00:38:23.540 and subsequent appeal to the ninth circuit court, a quote charitable work, charitable work that was

00:38:30.920 done by Bill Barr out of the goodness of his heart for the sniper that took out Randy Weaver's family

00:38:35.940 at Ruby Ridge. Uh, it's remarkable, but not surprising. This is the kind of thing you need

00:38:42.080 on your resume to become attorney general. You need to put in this work, you need to demonstrate

00:38:46.920 fealty to the regime in the case of Garland and Holder that has to do with their conduct, um, with

00:38:55.900 respect to Oklahoma city. But this gets to the point about sacred before challenged before. I think now

00:39:02.760 the circumstances are actually more open than ever to actually revisit the Oklahoma city case with

00:39:11.000 respect to what really happened. It's a very dark thing. It's still, I think very uncomfortable for a

00:39:17.220 lot of Americans to digest, um, and very controversial for that reason. But I think there's more receptivity

00:39:25.620 to truth on that now than there would have been before the January six issue. I think the coverage

00:39:32.800 on January six that we've done at revolver and you've been that you've done and, you know, Tucker and

00:39:38.040 a handful of others who have really been stalwarts on January six has not only done the service of

00:39:44.560 presenting the truth about January six, but I think it's presented a broader opportunity, uh, that

00:39:50.980 otherwise would not exist for the American people to revisit some other events with the current

00:39:58.080 understanding of what the government is actually capable of. And you're seeing this, by the way,

00:40:01.940 you're seeing a reinvigoration of people going back and questioning the official narrative on many

00:40:06.220 of the great American scandals of the, of the modern era, the past decade, not only Oklahoma city,

00:40:13.280 Ruby Ridge, Waco, but even prior events like Watergate with Richard Nixon, like the assassination of

00:40:19.600 JFK though, though I admittedly, the assassination of JFK has always been questioned by the American

00:40:24.260 people. Uh, the, the fact though, that so many of, because it was just so egregious that so many of

00:40:30.960 these other events though, where the, the narrative has solidified, but it's also interesting because

00:40:35.040 in, in each of those events, uh, Waco, Ruby Ridge, and now Oklahoma city, you notice that it,

00:40:42.520 it, the narrative solidified if you were around in the nineties, but for the new generation,

00:40:48.360 that wasn't, wasn't around, it wasn't, or, or, or folks like that are my generation,

00:40:52.720 our generation that weren't necessarily paying attention to the news back then. Uh, the same,

00:40:58.700 we, we don't quite have the conditioning on, on this that used to exist in an era where there

00:41:05.880 were only three media networks. There were, you know, two national papers and then, you know,

00:41:10.400 one paper of record for every major city. And that's the way the media worked. And if you control that,

00:41:15.100 if you work with those people, then you would be able to set the mono narrative as the Obama

00:41:20.320 administration used to call it, the mono narrative. Well, the modern narrative doesn't exist anymore

00:41:24.640 because individual, uh, media, independent media like this operates revolver news,

00:41:30.860 post millennial human events.com, et cetera, et cetera. We have so many more outlets now that

00:41:35.400 we have a democratization. This is why Twitter and Elon Musk are so important. And Elon Musk to his

00:41:39.820 credit has again, going back to what you wrote in a, in a revolver about this, he has taken Twitter

00:41:47.200 and said, I want Twitter to be the source of truth, the greatest source of truth. He didn't say

00:41:54.180 that I want it to be the most profitable. I'm sure he does. Uh, he didn't say that I want Twitter to be

00:41:59.160 the most, uh, the most used. I don't want it. He didn't say I want the most kids,

00:42:03.420 the most celebrities. No, he said, I want it to be the source of truth. Why is that so important?

00:42:08.220 Well, I mean, it's, it's important because of how powerful the Twitter platform is, how the,

00:42:17.500 the network affects on Twitter. There's so many people and, uh, you know, it's a, it's a noble and

00:42:25.000 worthy goal to say, okay, uh, I want it to be the source of truth. I, you know, it's who's going to be

00:42:33.260 the arbiter of that. I hope that that doesn't reflect, uh, any tendencies towards sort of, uh,

00:42:40.040 making editorial decisions on.

00:42:42.540 No, no, no, no, no, no, no. I, I, I think, let me make sure I'm not misquoting him because he was

00:42:47.360 saying it in the context of, I want Twitter to be a free place where people can debate these things

00:42:53.460 and that official narratives can be challenged. Right. And I think on that score, that's a very

00:42:59.580 noble goal. And from a personal perspective, it does seem that Elon Musk has, um, more than

00:43:08.080 entertained serious challenges to official narratives on a wide range of things. Um, just the other day,

00:43:15.840 he was retweeting, um, you know, January six, uh, material and January six material from our

00:43:23.540 perspective in light of, uh, Tucker's segment. Um, he's been, um, perhaps unexpectedly, uh, courageous

00:43:33.700 and based in his defense of, uh, Dilbert and, and Scott Adams. He's, he's been unexpectedly

00:43:42.620 courageous on the COVID question and on a wide range of questions. Of course, the simple act of,

00:43:49.660 you know, this hostile takeover of Twitter is a monumental event and he deserves tremendous

00:43:55.180 credit for it. And so one thing that I've actually been, uh, been testing is, um, the use, and I'm

00:44:01.400 sure you've seen them on that. We've been on the program here, creating deep fakes of, uh, of

00:44:07.380 elected officials. Um, one of which the first one that just went completely viral millions of views

00:44:14.420 was of president Biden announcing a national draft, the invocation of the selective service act

00:44:20.740 to deal with military shortfalls. And of course the, the deteriorating conditions in, in the Ukraine

00:44:26.700 war. So it's, it's present. What we're doing is we're not making them outlandish and playing a video

00:44:31.720 game. We're, we're going in and saying, what would happen six months from now? What would happen eight

00:44:37.440 months from now? And then of course we also made one of AOC attacking Jack Posobiec for creating a

00:44:43.280 deep fake of president Biden, and then also attacking Elon Musk for refusing to delete it from the platform.

00:44:50.440 No, that's, that's hilarious and very interesting. I saw the, the Joe Biden one on the draft and,

00:44:56.340 um, no, it's, it was, he allowed it to fly. He allowed it to fly.

00:45:00.560 Yeah. There was a, there was a community note tag, but whatever.

00:45:04.920 Right. But the script was actually very good. The script was realistic. It read like

00:45:09.800 what he might actually say in that context. Um, thank you. It was, it was a, uh, it was a fascinating

00:45:17.820 exercise for sure. And, and I think that the test on our side was okay. You know, is Elon Musk going to

00:45:26.140 take us down? Is he going to allow this to fly? Now, of course we didn't make one of Elon,

00:45:29.040 but the question is, and what was interesting is to us as well is that we actually had, and of

00:45:34.000 course all the hit pieces and fact checks that were written up only served to further the video

00:45:38.860 more. Um, but one, uh, deep fake expert actually came out and said, look, I, I think this is a

00:45:46.060 legitimate use of this technology. What you're doing is political commentary, social commentary.

00:45:51.160 We're talking about a potential world war three situation. So sure. Why wouldn't we use the same 1.00

00:45:56.620 technology? By the way, it certainly falls under the legal auspices of parody or satire the same way

00:46:02.040 that when SNL gets a president, gets an actor who looks like the president and puts him on stage and

00:46:07.720 has him act and sound like the president, right? Nobody, nobody takes that down from social media.

00:46:13.260 The problem is, is now it's our side doing it. Right. I mean, there's the, everybody, you know,

00:46:19.600 the thing is, is people talk about the deep fake technology, but, um, the regime has had this

00:46:25.920 technology for a long time and they have much more sophisticated versions. So the real concern is that

00:46:31.240 now, now other people get to use it and can use it, uh, in contexts that are not necessarily

00:46:39.540 approved by the regime. So I think it's a fascinating frontier. That's my favorite response,

00:46:46.380 by the way, you'll, you'll like, this is, is, as of course, a lot of conservatives were even saying

00:46:50.740 to me, this is so inappropriate. How can you do this? This is terrible. What shouldn't use this

00:46:55.700 technology this way. And, and, and then they said, what do you think, how would you like it if the

00:47:01.020 media started doing this to you guys? Oh, really? How would I, how would I like it if the media started

00:47:05.600 lying about me and my friends and Donald Trump and it's just ridiculous? Right. Right. No, I, 0.70

00:47:12.820 I think that's, that's fascinating. You should do, you should do more. Oh, we're going to do more

00:47:18.000 and I'll do one of you next. Probably. We've got your audio here from the, praising, praising the FBI.

00:47:25.160 I was wrong. I was wrong about Ray Epps and he's that he and I actually went out for drinks last night

00:47:31.720 and it turns out he's a good guy. And we slept on some, my pillows, not together, separate rooms,

00:47:36.640 you know, but it would be great. It took me, took me to a cabin up in the woods and now I've seen the

00:47:42.640 light. Right. But that's, I think that's what they'd rather do to, to all of us. Now, um, the Nina

00:47:49.700 Yankovic is the world talking about suing us. Uh, everyone out there essentially saying, how can we shut

00:47:55.760 these people down? Because all we're doing, all we're, we're, we're looking at the same set of facts.

00:48:00.380 We're looking at it as everybody else. And I said, I've seen you at revolver do this as well.

00:48:04.100 All you're doing is you're adding one little piece of critical thinking to the same videos

00:48:10.000 and images that everyone else sees. Right. Right. No, it's all about the context. And that's,

00:48:18.620 that's why the media creates reality for better or worse, because they provide the context and the

00:48:25.020 framework in which and through which to perceive reality. And that's,

00:48:29.820 I should say as, as we wind down, congratulations to you, because I saw a Rasmussen poll last week.

00:48:36.020 And I mentioned this on, on stage and I gave you credit as well. There at CPAC 61% now, 61% of

00:48:44.180 American voters now believe that January six likely had federal involvement. 61%.

00:48:52.720 No, that's, oh, that's got to include Democrats as well.

00:48:57.920 And it was, it was over 50% of Democrats.

00:49:01.200 That's remarkable. Yeah. I saw Thomas Massey mentioned this. I was wondering where,

00:49:06.580 where did that come from? But now it's, I'm glad to know it. There's a, there's a whole poll on it.

00:49:11.800 There's I'll, I'll, I'll make sure to send it to you. Darren, we're just about out of time. I want to

00:49:14.960 say thank you again for joining us on the Sunday special. Where can people go to follow you? Are you able to

00:49:19.640 give us any insights into what you're up to next? Revolver.news. We have some important pieces

00:49:26.780 coming up on, uh, an El Salvador and on a very significant first amendment case that I think

00:49:34.600 we've talked about, uh, Biden's justice department, trying to put a guy in jail for, for memes, put them

00:49:40.760 in jail for 10 years. And what this means is the Biden regime. Yeah. Trying to codify the

00:49:47.460 disinformation scam into the criminal code. So it's a very dangerous trend. We have a follow

00:49:52.380 up on that coming soon and maybe a little January six stuff as well. So people should stay tuned,

00:49:59.220 go to revolver.news. I'm at Twitter at Darren J. Beattie and we're at getter at revolver news.

00:50:06.140 All right. Support revolver.news, support Darren Beattie. Ladies and gentlemen,

00:50:09.000 as always, you have my permission to lay ashore.

Human Events Daily with Jack Posobiec - November 23, 2023

Episode 611： JANUARY 6TH RETROSPECTIVE WITH DARREN BEATTIE

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