Human Events Daily with Jack Posobiec - EPISODE 612： AMERICAN NO GO ZONES

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00:00:57.640 This is what happens when the fourth turning meets fifth-generation warfare.

00:01:05.960 A commentator, international social media sensation, and former Navy intelligence veteran.

00:01:13.140 This is Human Events with your host, Jack Posobiec.

00:01:16.000 Deliver us from evil.

00:01:18.160 Ladies and gentlemen, welcome aboard today's edition of Human Events Daily from Jack Posobiec.

00:01:22.420 Today is November 24th, 2023.

00:01:24.740 Mariano Domini, you know, a while back we sat down with Rahim Kassam to talk about the

00:01:30.800 rise of crime in America, and Rahim, you guys may not know this, but actually found the ability.

00:01:37.120 I know it's tough.

00:01:38.060 I know it's a bit of a stretch for Rahim to be able to do this.

00:01:41.220 He wrote a book.

00:01:42.000 It turns out he wrote a couple of books.

00:01:43.600 One of them was about no-go zones, and he was talking about the no-go zones in Europe,

00:01:49.140 these Sharia law areas.

00:01:50.960 Well, it turns out that because of the rise of crime in America and the lack of policing

00:01:56.040 due to the defund the police movement and the George Floyd riots, we now have American 0.96

00:02:01.180 no-go zones.

00:02:02.960 And guess what, folks?

00:02:04.060 It's only gotten worse.

00:02:06.860 You need to watch this to understand the situation.

00:02:09.400 We are returning with the editor-in-chief of The National Pulse, Mr. Rahim Kassam.

00:02:17.620 Rahim, thanks for returning to us.

00:02:19.920 Thank you for having me back.

00:02:21.020 So one of the original things that I knew of Rahim Kassam before you and I got to know

00:02:27.520 each other, unfortunately, much to both of our chagrins, is that I knew about Brexit, I

00:02:35.080 knew about Nigel and UKIP, but you had a book in, I believe it was 2017, called No-Go

00:02:42.800 Zones.

00:02:43.340 And this was all about Europe and the rise of European no-go zones.

00:02:48.180 And I've been thinking recently about the, and particularly, so I actually went over

00:02:52.260 myself to Malmo, Malmo, Sweden, and we went into, I think it was called Rotterberg, inside

00:02:58.180 Malmo.

00:03:00.200 And this was sort of the no-go zone.

00:03:01.600 Well, Tanya, I believe you're not, inside there.

00:03:05.140 And it was terrible.

00:03:05.720 It was, I mean, drive-by shooting happened the night before we landed.

00:03:08.560 Um, all the taxi drivers were talking about everything that was going on.

00:03:12.980 They said it was a lot of, uh, Somali gangs versus the more established Arab gangs that

00:03:17.780 had been there.

00:03:18.400 So it was really gang violence that was coming up and, you know, which is not something you

00:03:23.080 think of when you think of Sweden, you know, you think of, you know, uh, you know, I know

00:03:27.460 what I think of open, open sandwiches and, uh, open face sandwiches and, and smorgasbord and

00:03:33.460 meatballs.

00:03:34.480 Yeah.

00:03:34.880 Meatballs, you know, and leggy blondes. 1.00

00:03:38.560 You have blondes, Vikings, et cetera. 1.00

00:03:41.900 So that was very eyeopening.

00:03:45.380 And I remember this was a huge, a huge story and a huge narrative for so many years.

00:03:49.780 And, and of course, uh, Trump made his famous, uh, statement about it, which really set off

00:03:54.100 a lot of this, you know, remember what happened in Sweden last night, you know, and I noticed

00:04:00.820 though that here we are five years later, and it feels like the same type of thing is happening

00:04:07.220 again.

00:04:07.840 But it's not necessarily, or at least we're not hearing about it as much in Europe, but

00:04:13.320 it's happening in America.

00:04:15.360 So this is my thesis that a lot of American inner cities, and in some cases cities themselves

00:04:23.720 inside America, major cities, every major city is becoming a no-go zone.

00:04:29.740 And it's because this, of this massive rise of violent crime, uh, you've been in Washington,

00:04:35.220 D.C. for about as many years as I have.

00:04:37.520 And we know there's certain parts of the city that you just don't go to.

00:04:41.940 Uh, there have always been Anacostia was a huge one of these.

00:04:44.540 When I was, when I was in a DIA unit and, uh, or even when I was at Navy intelligence, Navy

00:04:49.300 intelligence is located in Suitland, Maryland.

00:04:51.920 That's Prince George's County.

00:04:53.600 Um, that's like MS 13 capital.

00:04:55.660 Um, that was, if you get, you get off work, you do, you drive, you just drive straight

00:05:00.580 out.

00:05:00.920 You do not stop.

00:05:02.140 You know, we had a guy, we had an E3 that came into our, uh, our units and he had just

00:05:07.800 been transferred in.

00:05:08.640 And he thought it would be really smart to get, to get himself off base housing at, at

00:05:13.000 like some apartment down the street.

00:05:14.540 And we basically had to, we, we basically forced him to move within the end of the first

00:05:19.460 week that he was there and apartment building.

00:05:21.860 He was at, Oh, I'm going to save some money.

00:05:23.100 It'd be great.

00:05:23.640 Yeah.

00:05:23.780 There was a shooting like the day after he left right there.

00:05:26.900 And so the fact that all of this is going on, um, and, and balling air force base where

00:05:33.540 the DIA is, it's also the home of Marine one, the entire Marine one fleet that the president

00:05:38.040 uses, and you can go within a stone's throw of there.

00:05:42.260 And you're in one of the most violent neighborhoods in America.

00:05:47.280 And it blows my mind.

00:05:49.880 Do you, or, or give me your take on my thesis here.

00:05:54.300 Has America seen the rise of no-go zones?

00:05:59.320 Yeah, I think, I think we're living the rise of American no-go zones right now.

00:06:04.300 And, and, and, you know, I'll, I'll, I'll coin, I'll coin this phrase for the sake of

00:06:08.980 the conversation as well is the subtitle of my book is how Sharia is coming to a neighborhood

00:06:13.980 near you.

00:06:15.300 Um, and I suppose that still remains the case, except for the fact that it's a Sharia of 1.00

00:06:19.740 the left of the political left, rather than a Sharia of radical Islam that you're seeing

00:06:24.620 taking root in so many cities across the United States at the moment.

00:06:27.680 I think it was accelerated in large part by COVID and, and the movement away from downtown

00:06:35.100 office buildings.

00:06:36.400 Um, the downtown of Washington DC itself became, you know, the entirety became a no-go zone for

00:06:41.800 a couple of days, um, when the BLM marches were taking place.

00:06:45.380 And I went out there with my camera and documented what had happened, uh, there and, and, and started

00:06:51.260 to see how it was taking root in, in, in lots of American cities.

00:06:54.580 And I've worked on this thesis for a while now is that as you see, uh, you know, downtowns

00:07:02.140 like Houston and Dallas, and, and this is going on all over the country, but these two really

00:07:08.340 stick in my head from recent visits, they are not just empty, but they're effectively becoming

00:07:13.940 shanty towns.

00:07:15.020 The office block buildings are obviously empty and they are in the process of converting those

00:07:20.160 into residential areas, but they're not going to be high-end residential areas.

00:07:24.880 They're not going to be places that people want to live because there's nothing really

00:07:27.800 there anymore.

00:07:28.760 You know, in places like Dallas, you don't go downtown, you go to Highland park.

00:07:32.640 Um, Houston has its own, they're building these kind of rich little areas on in, in the suburbs

00:07:38.220 and outside of the downtown areas that typically hosted the types of places that I like to go

00:07:43.160 to, right?

00:07:43.700 The steak houses and the fancy restaurants and all of that stuff was downtown, not the case

00:07:48.400 anymore.

00:07:48.860 And I think we're living that moment where these things are changing right now.

00:07:52.640 And my prediction is this, um, within three to four years, uh, maybe I'll go, maybe I'll

00:07:58.100 go as high as five, but not much longer than that.

00:08:00.600 Um, you're going to see all of these downtown areas in what used to be, you know, proud, you

00:08:06.620 know, prideful American cities, um, turn into, turn into shanty towns.

00:08:13.340 Well, I mean, uh, uh, uh, Chicago, of course, the magnificent mile, right?

00:08:18.180 Uh, you, they, they're, they're beset now with these, what they call them teen takeovers

00:08:23.680 where one of the recent and, and this girl, and she, she was on, she's been on Fox, she's

00:08:29.800 been on everywhere.

00:08:30.760 We're just surrounded, uh, this young white girl, um, who was surrounded.

00:08:36.120 But the fact of the matter is that was in one of the most, one of the richest neighborhoods

00:08:41.840 of Chicago.

00:08:43.560 And I was actually on with Charlie, um, Charlie Kirk talking about this and I'm, I'm more of

00:08:48.180 a Philly guy.

00:08:48.860 He's from Chicago though.

00:08:50.340 And so he, when he saw the address of where the, you know, the intersection where this

00:08:53.780 took place, it blew his mind.

00:08:55.460 Um, he said, how could there be something like this going on in one of the ritziest downtown

00:09:01.940 areas of Chicago, a place where, you know, now in Philadelphia.

00:09:07.060 So we've already gone through this.

00:09:08.540 Um, I've already had that sort of process of shock where you knew that it used to be that

00:09:14.740 if you, you know, you know, so Will Smith, the fresh Prince, right.

00:09:17.700 You knew if you went to West Philly, things were, you know, things were going to be trouble

00:09:21.180 if you, which is interesting too, because in Philadelphia, it goes, um, university city,

00:09:25.900 which is, has the houses, the university of Pennsylvania and the university of Pennsylvania.

00:09:30.280 There are the children of world leaders who go there.

00:09:33.260 There are the, I mean, this is Ivy league.

00:09:35.620 There are professionals going there, et cetera, et cetera.

00:09:37.920 And then if you go four or five blocks up, if you continue West up the same street, um,

00:09:46.360 you immediately get into rundown row houses.

00:09:49.580 You get into areas where the move bombing took place in the 1980s, believe it or not.

00:09:54.500 And it, it isn't even too far to the intersection where Kermit Gosnell's house of horrors took

00:10:00.040 place.

00:10:00.520 The abortionist it's, it's within walking distance of the university of Pennsylvania.

00:10:05.380 But I think for people, if you're not from the area, you think of all these narratives

00:10:09.240 as totally separate things.

00:10:10.460 You wouldn't realize that they're in that proximity.

00:10:12.660 And so the university of Pennsylvania dealt with this by having one of the largest, I believe,

00:10:18.300 um, the largest private police force in the entire state of Pennsylvania is right there.

00:10:23.360 And one of the only private police forces that is armed in the state of Pennsylvania because

00:10:29.100 of this, again, you, you've got millions of billions of dollars, right?

00:10:32.340 This is the Biden pen center, et cetera, is there.

00:10:35.220 Um, and they have their office in DC as well, but this is, this is a huge, huge place, um,

00:10:40.840 that's directly tied to all of this crime.

00:10:43.440 And they used to do the teen takeovers there.

00:10:45.660 Even when I was living in Philly, I remember this.

00:10:48.180 And so then I was at temple university when I was in school and this was, this is 20 years

00:10:52.080 ago, but temple was in North Philly and we knew that the campus itself was safe.

00:10:58.560 But if you did something off campus, you went off campus into North Philly, up North broad

00:11:03.780 street, and you were out there at two in the morning, three in the morning, you were asking

00:11:08.420 for trouble and every single one of the stories that I ever heard of someone being mugged or

00:11:13.480 something like that happening.

00:11:14.460 Again, this is 20 years ago was, it was always that situation.

00:11:18.200 Oh, I was walking home from the party by myself at three in the morning.

00:11:21.440 And right.

00:11:22.820 Um, that's no longer the case.

00:11:26.120 Now, when I hear stories about my alma mater, it's, oh, there was a student who got an apartment

00:11:32.420 right off of campus and someone carjacked them and then, uh, and then shot him in the

00:11:37.880 head because he fought back, uh, which is something that happened or, oh, there was somebody who

00:11:42.600 he was, it seemed like an attempted carjacking at first, but then he ordered him into his

00:11:49.440 apartment and started actually taking everything from inside the apartment while they were there.

00:11:54.600 This steps from campus just steps away.

00:11:57.480 And as well, there was a story of, uh, the killing of a temple university police officer

00:12:03.120 just not too long ago that really resonated with me because this happened right outside

00:12:07.500 the student center, right outside the student center, uh, within, within view of the campus

00:12:13.160 itself.

00:12:13.520 And so one thing that I tell people now, I used to say, you could go, but just stay on

00:12:17.100 campus.

00:12:17.420 Not just, I'll never bring my children anywhere near there, anywhere near there whatsoever.

00:12:21.800 Um, it, the city of Philadelphia is a no-go zone at this point, as far as I'm concerned.

00:12:27.480 Um, every neighborhood in the entire city has become this way.

00:12:31.700 The, the people keep voting for it.

00:12:33.580 So there's not really much you can do at that level other than get your family out and get

00:12:37.440 them out as fast as possible.

00:12:39.080 And so I see other cities and people who are from those cities going through this process,

00:12:43.840 which you have really documented quite well, I think on Washington DC.

00:12:49.820 In fact, just before the interview here, there were sirens, you know, going on.

00:12:53.720 Um, and, uh, cause I think DC, they have the citizen app, right?

00:12:57.160 Not every city has it, but DC does.

00:12:59.240 Yeah.

00:13:00.020 Yeah.

00:13:00.280 That's right.

00:13:00.680 What are some of the things that you've seen on there since, since 2020 and now that you'd

00:13:04.960 never used to see before?

00:13:06.500 Well, look, I live in a pretty affluent part of Washington DC.

00:13:11.140 And yet there are two, three blocks away from where I sit, regular, uh, reports of assaults

00:13:21.080 and carjackings.

00:13:22.500 And you could probably hear the sirens.

00:13:24.600 There's another one right now.

00:13:25.620 There's another one right now.

00:13:27.160 Right now.

00:13:28.300 Um, you know, you can't script it.

00:13:30.600 Right.

00:13:31.420 Um, and, and, you know, around here we have multiple police.

00:13:35.060 We don't have just the DC metropolitan police.

00:13:37.240 We have Capitol Hill police.

00:13:38.380 You have secret service that comes around here, all of that.

00:13:40.680 And yet it remains, you know, I wouldn't, I wouldn't say I've lived in some dangerous

00:13:44.880 places and I've been to some really dangerous places.

00:13:47.100 I went to some extremely dangerous places, as you say, for that 2017 book, um, no go zones,

00:13:52.800 but it's going that way.

00:13:55.340 Um, for, for somebody like you, IE somebody with a family, I wouldn't recommend going around

00:14:01.080 here, taking the family, taking the kids, taking the wife, letting the wife go around 1.00

00:14:04.940 here with the kids by themselves.

00:14:06.980 Absolutely not.

00:14:08.020 I mean, absolutely not under no circumstances.

00:14:10.540 Um, I say it to the women that work around here that are my friends. 1.00

00:14:13.860 I always say, please, you know, make sure you're home by the time, uh, uh, you know,

00:14:18.420 darkness hits it's, it's fundamentally unsafe.

00:14:21.200 And again, look, a lot of people hear this and go, well, of course it's a city, high concentrations

00:14:27.060 of people living together.

00:14:28.780 Uh, those things, you know, those things can happen.

00:14:31.600 Right.

00:14:31.960 But that's, that's a cop out.

00:14:33.760 And it's especially a cop out when you think about the, the, the leaps that were made, uh,

00:14:40.420 you only have to go back and watch, you know, on fire, the vanities movie, watch taxi driver

00:14:45.580 and watch the leaps that were made after those things came out that people turned around and

00:14:51.800 go, actually, you know what?

00:14:53.160 We actually don't like our cities to be that way.

00:14:55.940 We don't want the house next door being a brothel. 1.00

00:14:58.220 We don't want the underpass under the highway being somewhere, but you can't, you can't

00:15:03.000 turn around and drive.

00:15:04.080 If you got on the highway incorrectly without fear of getting your tires stolen off your

00:15:08.520 cars and, and so on and so forth.

00:15:10.220 And you talked about the, you know, how close it is to the rich people, Georgetown university

00:15:15.960 in Washington, DC.

00:15:17.180 Um, there is this spate right now of wealthy kids going to college who are having their

00:15:25.000 expensive puffer jackets.

00:15:27.140 They have these expensive, like $5,000 puffer jackets.

00:15:30.940 That is some kind of fashion statement.

00:15:32.740 I guess now Pope Francis has one too.

00:15:34.960 Yeah, that's right.

00:15:35.900 And it's like a deep fake they made of him.

00:15:38.580 And those are being targeted in midtown Manhattan.

00:15:42.260 Uh, if you wear the Apple pro max headphones out of your house, you aren't likely walking

00:15:47.900 back into your house with them.

00:15:49.340 It's, you know, they're being ripped off your head.

00:15:51.100 It's, it's a spate of things.

00:15:52.800 And, and, you know, you can see the targeting going on here.

00:15:55.940 Um, you add to that the reluctance to really properly police any of these areas by, by

00:16:03.200 the, you know, the liberal left city councils and the Muriel Bowser in Washington, DC, and

00:16:07.400 so on and so forth.

00:16:08.520 Um, you end up with the perfect storm and the perfect storm is this.

00:16:12.080 I'm sorry.

00:16:12.600 I said this, I said this years ago about London under Sadiq Khan.

00:16:16.560 Uh, and I'll say it now about so many American cities. 0.99

00:16:19.720 They're turning into sh**holes. 0.99

00:16:22.880 It's, it's sad, right? 0.98

00:16:25.500 It's really, it's actually, um, we were, we were looking at some travel plans for a, uh,

00:16:34.920 this conference that's going on in Europe and we're bringing the kids.

00:16:38.240 And so typically, you know, when you fly over, there's direct flights, but then there's also

00:16:42.460 transfers.

00:16:43.100 And one thing Tanya and I'll do to, um, you know, save some money, but it's also can be

00:16:47.880 kind of fun is you, you do like a, like a one day transfer city, one day transfer stop.

00:16:54.580 So you'll, you'll do a stopover, but just stay there for a day.

00:16:57.620 So, you know, last year when we were on the way to Poland, we did, we did it in Rome and

00:17:01.500 it was amazing.

00:17:02.240 Right.

00:17:03.020 Um, so just one, you know, one night, essentially 24 hours, but you know, how much of Rome can

00:17:07.560 you see in 24 hours and sort of becomes a, you know, a catch-all.

00:17:11.420 And, um, so you, you see so many of the ones through London.

00:17:15.980 Um, and even though the airports are all outside the city, you know, it's about an hour, give

00:17:20.040 or take, you can get in.

00:17:21.620 And, um, yeah, I said no to all of them.

00:17:25.560 Um, I said, I, I said, even though it was, it was cheaper to go through London, I said,

00:17:30.780 absolutely not.

00:17:31.540 I'm, I'm not interested.

00:17:32.720 It's not worth it.

00:17:33.860 It's not, um, it's not something that I, I feel we got another, we got it or whatsoever.

00:17:39.260 We got another, another siren.

00:17:41.720 And that's, and that's distinctly a police siren.

00:17:43.940 It's just unbelievable.

00:17:45.240 Like, you know, this is the middle of the day, you know, you can see by the lighting

00:17:49.480 in this room, um, middle of a, middle of a, uh, a work day and, and, and this is what

00:17:54.440 you have.

00:17:54.760 It's interesting that you say that because we did that as kids, uh, ourselves, you know,

00:17:58.820 my first trip ever to Washington DC was when we were taking a, uh, layover, uh, from London

00:18:06.820 and we were, I think we were going to Orlando and Florida to visit family.

00:18:10.240 Um, but my parents decided to surprise us with, I think we did two days in Manhattan and,

00:18:15.900 and, and half a day, uh, in DC and, and back, back then you would think like, yeah, those

00:18:24.760 cities had, had improved.

00:18:26.120 It was post, um, Giuliani in New York and, and a lot of gentrification was going on in

00:18:32.720 Washington DC.

00:18:33.420 I mean, people from DC will know what I mean when I say this.

00:18:37.140 Um, you wouldn't, you certainly wouldn't have gone to the Navy yard back then.

00:18:40.960 No, the first time I went to DC, it was like that.

00:18:43.680 I remember going there on a field trip when I was in grade school, number three, by the

00:18:48.220 way.

00:18:48.660 Yeah.

00:18:49.020 This sounds like it's a soundtrack that we're laying over this.

00:18:51.860 That's a cop car right there.

00:18:55.960 Wow.

00:18:58.060 So I remember, maybe I should check the citizen app.

00:19:01.180 Oh, you just check the citizen app.

00:19:02.220 Yeah.

00:19:02.520 This is real time.

00:19:03.100 Um, so no, but I, I remember, um, going to visit to see the Smithsonian and do some field

00:19:08.000 trip type stuff as you do growing up in the Philly area.

00:19:11.100 Um, not far.

00:19:12.040 We also used to go to the March for life.

00:19:13.380 So that was something because we're Catholic.

00:19:14.460 So that was something that you, you know, you get a day off, you go to the March for life,

00:19:18.140 et cetera, et cetera.

00:19:18.600 It's great.

00:19:19.960 And, uh, it's only a couple hours by bus.

00:19:22.520 And I remember though, you know, we were told very specifically that you do not leave the

00:19:28.500 hotel.

00:19:29.220 You do not go into Navy yard.

00:19:30.980 You do not go anywhere.

00:19:32.680 That's not, you know, I mean, it was drilled into us.

00:19:36.520 Now you look at Navy yard and this is like one of the most boom for folks who don't understand 1.00

00:19:40.760 what we're saying.

00:19:41.280 This is the, the area, the neighborhood around the Navy yard in DC on the river.

00:19:45.840 Um, and then the wharf, which is a bit down from there.

00:19:48.640 These are some of the most, uh, gentrified areas of DC over the last decade.

00:19:53.640 There's been tens of millions of dollars ford into these areas under Muriel Bowser.

00:20:00.600 Um, this, and, and by the way, to, to her, you know, something for when you're on the

00:20:06.640 left, you're supposed to be against gentrification because what have they been doing?

00:20:09.460 They've been taking the families that have lived there for so long and they're kicking 0.87

00:20:12.300 them up, they're pricing them well and kicked them into PG County.

00:20:15.180 Yes.

00:20:15.640 But the Chinese investors are getting visas and that's, what's important.

00:20:18.700 That's what's so important.

00:20:19.440 It's EB, it's EB five, baby.

00:20:20.920 You might be five visa. 0.70

00:20:21.760 So as we're, as we're talking right now, I look up the, uh, there's a Twitter account

00:20:27.040 called, um, at real time news, 10 DC real time news.

00:20:31.580 Um, I won't give away, you know, my exact location by talking about this, but 10 blocks

00:20:36.780 away, um, shooting, uh, on the scene, DC police department shooting with one individual gunshot

00:20:44.820 wound injuries, middle of the day.

00:20:48.400 Wait, wait, wait, you know, wait, you broad daylight.

00:20:50.520 You're serious.

00:20:51.320 There's actually a shooting that went on just a few blocks from your apartment.

00:20:56.400 24 minutes ago.

00:20:57.920 According to that.

00:20:58.860 As we were recording this episode.

00:21:00.920 Yeah.

00:21:01.740 That just happened.

00:21:02.980 Yeah.

00:21:04.340 You got to get out of there, man.

00:21:05.740 You got to, you have to get out of there.

00:21:08.000 Well, somebody has to stay here and hold the fort down, you know, we're going to have to

00:21:12.700 make American cities great again at some point.

00:21:15.620 Um, and I, I think that's something worth mentioning as well is credit to these people

00:21:21.600 because the, even the DC local media doesn't cover, give this the coverage that it should

00:21:26.440 get.

00:21:26.680 And there are all these little, um, former corporate media people that have gone, um,

00:21:32.300 independent and they spend all day long tracking down, you know, these shootings and these car

00:21:37.960 jackings because there's a guy who doesn't get out of.

00:21:40.440 It's phenomenal.

00:21:42.020 Yeah.

00:21:42.640 Yeah.

00:21:43.280 And, and otherwise you'd never hear about them.

00:21:45.740 I think there was something like 12 shootings this weekend alone in Washington, DC.

00:21:50.500 Um, but you don't, you know, when do you see flash of that on the Chiron on, on CNN or Fox

00:21:56.420 news or anything you have to rely on these.

00:21:58.920 Now, the great thing about them is they always provide source material.

00:22:01.140 So you can go back to the DC, uh, metropolitan police department's website and cross-reference

00:22:05.500 that information.

00:22:06.460 But I'll tell you, if somebody wants to make a living out of running a new site, you know,

00:22:09.880 a DC crime news site, you have no shortage of news.

00:22:13.860 No, honestly, I mean, you could, it would be a billion dollar idea, probably a billion

00:22:17.960 dollar idea.

00:22:18.540 If you just did a, essentially a crime blotter and then you had specific ones, you remember

00:22:24.500 Gothamists, you remember when Gothamists used to be around, it was like the cool stuff

00:22:27.540 to do.

00:22:28.000 And they had DC, they had Gotham, they had Shanghai.

00:22:31.700 Cause I, when I lived there, I read Shanghaiist was one of the ones they had, uh, I believe the

00:22:35.900 whole thing was shuttered.

00:22:37.160 Yeah.

00:22:37.560 Um, but you'd basically do that, but for crime and then run each city, a billion dollar

00:22:43.700 idea right there.

00:22:44.640 Yeah.

00:22:44.960 I think, I think, yeah, but you'd, you'd be targeted so quickly because, because the regime

00:22:50.100 does not want that information out there.

00:22:51.940 Um, it is, it is to the extent where you'd need a pretty significant newsroom actually

00:22:57.200 to, to put that, to put all of that information together.

00:22:59.960 It's happening all over the place all the time in all major American cities.

00:23:04.680 Um, if somebody wants to bankroll it, you and I can put it together.

00:23:07.820 But let me ask you, but let me ask you, and there are some Chicago ones out there and there's

00:23:11.460 some Philly ones at least Twitter account level that have, that have started to come up.

00:23:14.780 But, but let me ask you, why does it seem that these stories or this narrative that America

00:23:23.140 has become so violent that it doesn't sort of gain any traction at all whatsoever that

00:23:30.160 are Americans just immune to it?

00:23:32.820 I mean, the wire came out, what, almost 25 years ago that showed the violence of Baltimore

00:23:38.000 and that hasn't changed.

00:23:40.440 If anything, it's increased, uh, thanks to the Freddie Gray riots, which were one of the

00:23:44.480 first riots that I ever covered, uh, on, on the ground in person in 2015.

00:23:48.980 Um, the response to George Floyd, obviously we have to talk about the George Floyd effect

00:23:52.880 here and the overall.

00:23:54.740 So, uh, the left will make this, this argument that they'll say, well, there, you know, there

00:23:59.860 hasn't been a defunding of the police.

00:24:01.580 Yes, maybe, but there's been de-policing, right?

00:24:04.420 So there's been de-policing in these areas, de-policing in the cities, de-policing on the

00:24:08.560 highways, which is something that nobody talks about.

00:24:10.820 Um, that's led to massive, um, reckless driving deaths.

00:24:15.540 And, and why, if you're the police officer, are you putting your life in danger?

00:24:19.620 If you know, you arrest this person and there's not going to be any significant charges.

00:24:24.040 You'll be right next to Derek Chauvin.

00:24:26.040 Right.

00:24:26.800 But they're not going to be charged.

00:24:28.740 You know, the, the, the, the DAs are not.

00:24:31.200 I mean, the criminals, right, right, right, right.

00:24:33.460 It's just, it's not worth putting them in cuffs.

00:24:35.980 It's not worth the paperwork.

00:24:37.040 It's not worth the risk to your life.

00:24:39.420 It's not worth any of it.

00:24:40.600 It's not worth even it.

00:24:42.620 They go again.

00:24:43.220 It's not worth it even for your boss's, um, you know, umbrage that will be targeted in

00:24:52.020 your direction.

00:24:52.680 If you make that arrest, if you intervene in that incident, so they just forget about

00:24:56.800 it.

00:24:56.940 And, and here's the answer to your question, right?

00:24:58.680 We have to, we have to realize that, uh, on this, on this matter, um, Kanye West was

00:25:03.900 correct. 0.93

00:25:04.380 You know, George Bush doesn't care about black people. 0.99

00:25:07.120 Barack Obama didn't care about black people. 0.99

00:25:09.180 Joe Biden doesn't care about black people. 1.00

00:25:11.540 Muriel Bowser doesn't care about black people. 1.00

00:25:13.460 A lot of these things are happening to black people in predominantly black neighborhoods. 0.97

00:25:18.060 And so why would they do anything about it? 0.60

00:25:21.000 Right?

00:25:21.280 Like they see those people as, you know, remaining on their plantations, on their Democrat left

00:25:26.620 plantations.

00:25:27.360 They don't think they're going to move off them, uh, uh, you know, in any significant

00:25:30.820 way at any time soon.

00:25:32.920 What's the point?

00:25:34.160 Leave them to it.

00:25:34.880 That's, that's what they think.

00:25:36.100 Well, and you, and you made the point before about, you know, pre Giuliani, New York and

00:25:41.040 post Giuliani, but people need to understand that that sort of the, the Scorsese taxi driver

00:25:46.540 in New York, um, versus the New York of the nineties and really the two thousands, especially

00:25:51.540 when times square became the amusement park that it is now.

00:25:55.420 Um, this was because a massive increase in policing, a massive increase in arrest.

00:26:01.240 It was because of policies like stop and frisk was because of prosecutions.

00:26:05.220 And it was because of a, a very proactive, um, stance on policing directly target.

00:26:13.180 And this is what I love.

00:26:13.900 And this was that, that, uh, was it leaked audio, the hot mic on, um, on Michael Bloomberg

00:26:20.080 from, from some fundraiser when he was trying to enter president in 2020, where he said,

00:26:24.640 well, we send police to the minority neighborhoods and people, and, and the entire media tried

00:26:29.980 to frame it as we're sending them there because we want to arrest more minorities. 1.00

00:26:34.860 And he came out, I'll give him credit for a guy who's on the left, uh, you know, nominally

00:26:39.080 he said, you're looking at it all backwards.

00:26:42.540 I'm not sending police to minority neighborhoods to arrest minorities.

00:26:45.980 I'm sending the police there to protect the minorities. 1.00

00:26:49.320 That's the point of police.

00:26:51.380 And we've, we've gotten so far in this country with this massive, I call it a psychological

00:26:56.900 operation against police, the demonization of police that's been going on really kicking

00:27:01.600 off with Ferguson, um, the original BLM hashtag, whichever forgets that started as a hashtag

00:27:06.960 on Twitter that has done more to increase the deaths of black Americans since it began

00:27:17.000 than anything else.

00:27:18.560 And yet they'll find some viral video and they'll decide that that's exactly what's

00:27:22.100 going on because you have these politicians who don't understand statistics or people

00:27:26.500 who, um, just don't care about statistics and know better, uh, that'll go on and lie

00:27:30.640 about it.

00:27:31.640 And it's, you know, I'll put it this way for some of the cities, it's very hard to see

00:27:36.540 what you do with this.

00:27:37.600 Um, obviously you've seen the success in New York and maybe they can get back to that

00:27:41.240 Philadelphia.

00:27:42.220 I don't know.

00:27:43.400 Um, at least for DC, there is an option and it's called takeaway home rule.

00:27:47.460 Because DC is not a, it is not a municipal city.

00:27:51.740 It's not a municipality.

00:27:52.440 It is a federal territory.

00:27:54.100 Um, it is, it is very similar under federal law to say Guam or Puerto Rico in this sense

00:28:01.420 because it doesn't have statehood nor should it receive statehood.

00:28:03.680 And by the way, uh, I'll go a step further.

00:28:06.180 Not only should DC, um, lose its home rule status and go directly back to the Congress,

00:28:10.480 but if those parts of DC want to have representation, et cetera, like they all call for, that's

00:28:17.800 perfectly fine because you, I'm sure, you know, that on your U S history, that Alexandria

00:28:22.500 and Arlington used to be part of Washington, DC, because in the constitution D if you read

00:28:28.100 the dimensions, DC is a square, right?

00:28:30.180 Well, a diamond, I guess.

00:28:31.760 And, uh, they were de-annexed, I guess you could say, or re-annexed by Virginia at one

00:28:38.640 point for these very same reasons in the 1800s to receive their, their, um, their representation

00:28:43.240 back.

00:28:43.960 And I say, that's fine.

00:28:45.020 If you want to return to us, if you want to retain statehood, that's absolutely fine.

00:28:48.220 The name of that state is Maryland.

00:28:50.100 You will become part of it and you'll receive all the representation you want.

00:28:53.060 Yeah, it, it, it, it's going to stick in the craw of, of Virginia voters.

00:28:58.580 If, if they are made to subsume more DC residents into their voting, um, whatever, but, but, but

00:29:05.380 that's true.

00:29:06.180 It's actually factually correct that, um, the federal side of Washington, DC must be, you

00:29:12.860 know, the, you know, Capitol Hill down to the white house surrounding areas, that sort

00:29:17.580 of thing.

00:29:17.960 And the rest, the rest can go and join the states that already have representation.

00:29:22.620 I think there is a huge case for that.

00:29:25.160 Um, the, I'd like to talk about taxi driver more because I, funny enough, you know, I,

00:29:32.900 I didn't even know we were going to get this far into this sort of conversation, but I

00:29:36.080 was, I was actually rewatching it, um, just last night and that, yeah.

00:29:41.720 And that scene that I'd forgotten about when the, uh, when the political candidate is in

00:29:47.240 the backseat of his cab and he's saying to him, so what are you, you know, I, I, he goes,

00:29:51.940 I learned more from taxi drivers than I learned from everybody.

00:29:55.320 You know, he's pandering and he says, well, what do you think should be done?

00:29:58.620 And, and De Niro's character turns around and goes, wow, you know, I just, I just think

00:30:02.120 somebody needs to just get in here and clean it all up, you know, flush it down the toilet.

00:30:07.520 And it's remember that same attitude and it's that same realization.

00:30:12.700 And also, also that same frustration that you see in a movie like falling down, right?

00:30:18.320 Where, where city, city doesn't work man who has paid into city and surfed his city in,

00:30:25.660 in whatever way, all of his life suddenly finds out nothing around him works.

00:30:29.360 And I understand that these aren't supposed to be protagonists in the strictest sense,

00:30:33.580 um, in these movies, but, but those movies are what led to people like Mr. Giuliani coming

00:30:39.460 along, becoming the mayor and going, you know what, somebody does really need to clean this

00:30:43.980 up and flush it down the toilet, you know?

00:30:46.440 And I think you're going to start seeing more of that in popular culture now as, as American

00:30:51.180 no-go zones proliferate across the United States.

00:30:55.260 You'll probably see a lot more of that reflected in common culture.

00:30:58.800 When I was in New York, uh, covering the, uh, the arrest of president Trump, uh, I had

00:31:04.360 a taxi driver tell me, and we were staying in the East village and I had a taxi driver

00:31:08.520 tell me that he thought that the city was as bad as Dinkins as it was on Dinkins, which

00:31:13.800 is, you know, immediately prior to, um, uh, to Giuliani.

00:31:18.680 Oh, producer Angelo is, is sending me the, the great quote from, from the immortal Travis 0.98

00:31:23.420 Bickle, someday a real rain will come and wash all this scum off the streets. 0.98

00:31:29.840 That's right. 0.98

00:31:30.640 And then actually, believe it or not though, um, totally separate case, but my, the driver

00:31:36.220 that picked me up at the arrest of Trump.

00:31:39.080 So it's amazing.

00:31:39.920 Right.

00:31:40.120 Right.

00:31:40.260 All of this is going on in New York.

00:31:41.760 They'll, you'll get, you'll get stuck up for wearing a pair of Apple maxes and, and

00:31:47.020 Donald Trump is the one getting arrested for some paycheck thing, the discrepancy that they

00:31:52.120 clave exists.

00:31:53.660 Um, but the driver who picked me up from there and that was taking me back to the hotel.

00:31:58.540 Um, uh, he asked me if I had been, uh, at the thing I said, yeah, cause he knew where

00:32:02.620 he was picking me up from.

00:32:03.520 I was just, yeah, I saw that.

00:32:04.680 And he goes, and it turns out that he was Armenian and he goes, you know, you know, the

00:32:08.500 person they should be really arresting and said, who's that?

00:32:10.500 He goes, he goes, they should be arresting that effing Victoria Nuland. 1.00

00:32:14.640 That's the one they should be arresting.

00:32:16.740 Wow.

00:32:17.100 I was like, and then immediately, I immediately turned my phone on, hit record, go on.

00:32:22.880 So you were saying about Victoria Nuland.

00:32:25.260 And then I didn't actually release it because it just, I don't know.

00:32:27.680 It didn't feel like one of those things to release, but, uh, it was, it was amazing to

00:32:31.100 me that the taxi drivers know, man, the taxi, you can't, you can't hide that stuff from

00:32:37.320 the people that live on the ground.

00:32:38.900 You just, you can't do it.

00:32:40.020 Yeah, I was thinking about this a moment ago, um, because, you know, taxi driver and taxi

00:32:48.200 driver, he goes and he puts the suit and tie on and he takes the girl out for a, a, a 0.82

00:32:53.380 slice of, by the way, a slice of apple pie with cheddar cheese melted on top, which is

00:32:59.180 something we don't do enough nowadays.

00:33:01.100 I'm going to, I'm going to bring, bring cheese back.

00:33:04.380 You're not going to have that.

00:33:05.460 Oh, apple pie with cheese is amazing.

00:33:07.960 It's amazing.

00:33:08.660 Terrible.

00:33:08.980 Yeah, I know this is worse than your pizza appetites.

00:33:13.140 Now, listen, we'll talk about that another time, but, but, you know, you find me a taxi

00:33:17.740 driver in New York city today that, that owns a shirt and tie, let alone is walking into

00:33:23.540 a political campaign office and chatting up, you know, the girl at the desk in, in proficient

00:33:28.940 English, a lot has changed in that regard as well.

00:33:32.220 And I think one of the things, yes, you can still find them every, every so often.

00:33:36.520 Um, by the way, do we have to call it the King's English now?

00:33:39.740 Yeah, you do.

00:33:40.700 Oh, that's right.

00:33:41.380 Oh, I was mortified this morning.

00:33:42.820 I picked up the Telegraph app on my phone and they, some, somebody had passed away, you

00:33:49.320 know, one of these sort of X factor America's got talent hosts and it says queen sends condolences.

00:33:56.540 And I thought to myself, what?

00:33:58.720 And you open the article and it's queen Camilla.

00:34:02.100 And I was like, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.

00:34:04.220 We're not doing that.

00:34:07.220 Yeah.

00:34:08.320 Yeah.

00:34:08.820 No, I don't.

00:34:09.380 Well, of course, all the people will remember the queen mother was the queen once upon a

00:34:13.620 time, you know, before the queen became the queen.

00:34:16.720 So that's the way it works.

00:34:18.220 Was the queen mother, but that would, that would be until someone came of age, right?

00:34:22.240 That was before she took the throne, before, before Elizabeth took the throne, the queen 0.92

00:34:25.560 mother, her mother was the queen. 0.99

00:34:28.460 I suppose, but.

00:34:30.320 Yeah.

00:34:31.120 Strange, isn't it?

00:34:31.760 No, no, no.

00:34:32.760 I don't accept that.

00:34:33.880 No, I thought I was having a stroke or something, you know, I thought maybe I imagined that queen

00:34:39.560 Elizabeth had passed away and she didn't.

00:34:41.180 And I got very excited for a moment.

00:34:42.760 And then I realized that talking about Camilla, this is dreadful. 0.92

00:34:46.640 Even, even, even, even worse as, as, as the UK slumps into a clown show version of itself. 0.90

00:34:54.000 Yeah.

00:34:54.420 And you want to talk about.

00:34:56.040 You want to talk about cities that haven't been the same in a long time.

00:34:59.020 I mean, London, look, if you hang out in Mayfair, if you hang out in Westminster, fine, you're

00:35:05.040 broadly going to be left unaccosted and, and they're very nice places to hang out.

00:35:09.680 Make sure to keep your Narwhal tusk nearby. 0.99

00:35:12.320 Just in case.

00:35:12.680 Yeah.

00:35:13.080 Yeah.

00:35:13.340 That's right.

00:35:14.040 That's right.

00:35:14.980 That was, that was London bridge.

00:35:16.720 Um, but, but if you.

00:35:18.900 And the Polish chef.

00:35:20.060 That's right.

00:35:20.700 But if you start venturing out into the Brixton's and the Camberwell's and the, um, tower Hamlet's

00:35:28.980 and, and so on and so forth, my goodness, you know, you better have your head on a swivel

00:35:33.060 in those, in those areas.

00:35:34.940 Really?

00:35:35.940 Now that now would those be considered suburbs?

00:35:38.600 Yeah.

00:35:39.220 Yeah.

00:35:39.520 Okay.

00:35:39.680 But they're boroughs.

00:35:40.320 You know, London's massive.

00:35:41.300 It has 32 constituent boroughs.

00:35:43.340 Right.

00:35:43.620 But so what I mean by that is, I mean, are they, are they analogous to American suburbs?

00:35:48.120 Because unfortunately what we've seen and what I've seen in, in the Philadelphia area,

00:35:55.160 my parents still live in the Philadelphia suburbs, um, that you see it in DC as well, that this

00:36:03.140 crime is not static.

00:36:05.480 It is not stationary and that it is spreading out into the suburbs.

00:36:09.200 It is going out further.

00:36:10.520 Um, we just had a shooting a couple of weeks ago here that took place right outside of Disney

00:36:16.660 world.

00:36:17.260 So this was, you know, Orlando.

00:36:19.860 And this was, this was the one where, if you remember, his name was Keith Moses, where this

00:36:23.740 guy was so crazy that he actually went back to the scene of the crime and shot the reporter

00:36:29.640 who was reporting on his earlier shooting. 0.93

00:36:32.800 Yeah.

00:36:33.240 Remember this?

00:36:34.180 And this was within, so they called it an Orlando shooting, but if you actually, again,

00:36:38.740 cause Orlando sort of has the, the, you know, the, sort of the main city part, but then

00:36:42.460 the most of it, most of Orlando is it's the theme parks.

00:36:45.960 And then it's the, it's either the resort hotels or the off resort hotels where, you know,

00:36:50.980 if you, if you're looking to save a couple of bucks and you've got your family in, you

00:36:54.080 know, that's where you stay.

00:36:55.380 This was right down the street from the hotels.

00:36:57.460 This was not in some inner city area.

00:37:00.460 Killed it, killed a nine-year-old with the initial, um, the initial killing and then came

00:37:04.660 back around and it was like dating the mother or something like that and shoots the reporter.

00:37:08.300 And so, I mean, I use that example just cause it was so heinous, but we've seen it again

00:37:12.100 and again.

00:37:12.540 Um, actually at the, uh, I'll just say it at the bowling alley near where my parents

00:37:17.780 live, the bowling alley that I learned how to bowl.

00:37:20.420 There was a, you know, like a gang shooting from Philadelphia.

00:37:23.060 I was like, why are Philadelphia gangs coming out to the burbs and, you know, settling beefs

00:37:28.320 at a suburban bowling?

00:37:30.060 It makes no sense.

00:37:30.700 Right.

00:37:31.340 Um, but it's also, it just speaks to this wider deep policing that I feel like that's

00:37:34.880 going on.

00:37:35.620 And I think in any of these States that if you've got an ability to, um, you know, cause

00:37:40.580 some of these States like, you know, Pennsylvania is kind of a purple state or St. Louis is a

00:37:44.720 great example where Ferguson took place.

00:37:46.380 That's a red state.

00:37:47.420 Okay.

00:37:47.780 That's a red state where the crime in St. Louis, particularly East St. Louis is absolutely

00:37:53.260 horrific, um, in terms of homicides.

00:37:56.120 And yet you don't, uh, uh, New Orleans is another example.

00:37:59.220 It's a red state that has an, or excuse me, uh, Louisiana is a red state, but new Orleans

00:38:03.820 has an incredible homicide problem.

00:38:06.820 And they don't seem to be dealing with this at the state.

00:38:10.900 I think you have to take state action.

00:38:12.180 I think you just have to take state action where you have the ability.

00:38:16.380 And of course the media is going to lose their minds over this, but what else would

00:38:20.580 you do?

00:38:21.740 Yeah.

00:38:22.100 And, and if anything, we need to be making the argument for the fact that, look, you'll

00:38:26.660 forgive me for this because I'm a city boy, right?

00:38:28.860 Like I was born in a city, raised in a city.

00:38:31.700 I love cities.

00:38:32.500 I traveled to cities all the time.

00:38:34.360 Um, and, and, and, and, and, and genuinely enjoy ambling aimlessly around a new city.

00:38:41.340 I was in Seattle a couple of weeks ago.

00:38:43.240 Did it there.

00:38:44.000 I was in St.

00:38:44.700 Louis last summer, uh, did it there.

00:38:47.040 And, and you start, can I speak to something?

00:38:50.140 There's, there's a huge difference between, and this is where I, where I think you would

00:38:54.060 have in common that we're not country boys.

00:38:55.820 And there's a huge difference between sort of like your, your country boy, which is a

00:39:00.420 cultural conservative.

00:39:01.300 I think you just, you grow up with conservatism, um, that it's all around you, but, but being

00:39:06.400 a city concert, an urban conservative, it's, it's much more reactive.

00:39:10.500 I feel like it's, it's just much more react because the culture is quite different.

00:39:14.540 Yeah.

00:39:14.720 And we're, we're, we're the renegades in our towns, you know, with, with one sort of

00:39:18.240 pointing at the, at the street corners going, remember what that was like five years ago?

00:39:22.580 Why isn't it like that anymore?

00:39:23.900 You know?

00:39:25.040 Um, and there is this resurgence.

00:39:26.340 I have letters, I have letters to my old, uh, my old local paper talking about how we

00:39:30.080 shouldn't make the town a sanctuary city for illegal immigrants from Mexico, because

00:39:34.780 it's going to increase crime and it's going to shut down the hospitals.

00:39:37.720 Guess what?

00:39:38.540 All the hospitals are shut down.

00:39:40.340 The crime isn't completely insane.

00:39:41.700 The hospital where I was born, I talk about this all the time.

00:39:44.000 The hospital where I was born has been raised.

00:39:46.220 There is an empty lot in its place.

00:39:47.900 And across the street is a Planned Parenthood clinic.

00:39:49.900 That's, that's where I was born.

00:39:52.040 Well, look, I mean, the resurgence of gang culture, um, is absolutely massive now.

00:39:56.920 And it's, and it's the thing that nobody's talking about.

00:39:59.220 Um, there were these conversations that happened in the early nineties.

00:40:01.780 Remember, I think it was Tipper Gore wanted to ban rap.

00:40:04.540 Um, as a, you know, Hillary Clinton, the super predators comment, Joe Biden coming out with

00:40:10.860 the, uh, the crime bill.

00:40:12.360 I mean, this, this was a, a Democrat left-wing mainstream centrist position in the 1990s.

00:40:19.940 Um, yeah, yeah.

00:40:21.240 Tough on crime, tough on the causes of crime.

00:40:23.600 And, um, you know, like your solution, like your state led solution there is going to

00:40:28.540 take some radical conversation, um, about what's going on in these areas, because look,

00:40:33.780 I could probably, you know, touch wood, probably go through my life in Washington, DC without

00:40:40.060 necessarily seeing anything firsthand like that.

00:40:42.380 Right.

00:40:42.660 Like, like somebody being shot in front of me.

00:40:45.480 Right.

00:40:45.780 Touch wood.

00:40:46.720 Um, but on the other hand, um, like you say, these aren't static problems and, and these

00:40:52.420 gangs that, that for instance, you want to take Anacostia or you want to take that area

00:40:57.620 down by the wharf.

00:40:58.840 Uh, you want to take the old Navy yard.

00:41:00.640 You can go up to Eckington in Northeast DC, just North of union station, by the way, literally

00:41:05.200 like five minutes walk North of university, Catholic university.

00:41:09.700 Absolutely.

00:41:10.140 Um, those you, you, you're starting to see this encirclement now of gang warfare around

00:41:15.700 the city.

00:41:16.360 Yeah.

00:41:16.760 And now that certain gangs and certain groups of people from like, you know, these ghettos 0.99

00:41:22.060 have established control over their local neighborhoods.

00:41:24.780 Now they're pushing out and having confrontations with, with rival gangs.

00:41:29.060 And that, that is becoming a real thing here.

00:41:31.520 Now, this is why, by the way, these 12 shootings take place over the weekend.

00:41:35.680 It's not, it's not people necessarily getting mugged when they come out of union station.

00:41:40.140 And then being shot, they're just being mugged and maybe kicked in the backside.

00:41:45.040 Um, but it's the gang members.

00:41:47.160 Well, this is why you get the birthday party shootings indiscriminately, you know, driving

00:41:52.360 past funeral homes, driving to birthday parties and lighting each other up.

00:41:57.500 And of course it's, you know, every so often unrelated civilian cash is astray and that's

00:42:02.880 getting more and more common.

00:42:04.060 Right.

00:42:04.420 So this is, this is probably the policy that you can tie this directly to it's, it's, and

00:42:11.160 I, we need to emphasize the depolicing because that is a huge part of this.

00:42:15.560 Um, but obviously no cash bail is, is this policy that you can probably most directly

00:42:22.080 tie to this bail reform in general.

00:42:24.940 Um, but I do think it's both.

00:42:26.860 I think it's, I think it's no cash bail and depolicing.

00:42:30.340 You're, you're taking off the brakes.

00:42:32.720 You're taking off all the brakes on the system.

00:42:35.080 And, and the amazing thing is the system was working.

00:42:38.980 DC was cleaned up.

00:42:40.700 Uh, New York was cleaned up.

00:42:42.260 Do you think anyone would be investing in DC if it wasn't for, um, the fact that the

00:42:47.520 crime was down?

00:42:48.200 Of course not the same with New York.

00:42:49.940 That's when the investments in that's, that's how Donald Trump made his money, um, by believing

00:42:54.480 in Manhattan and starting to go in, in the 1970s when it was still taxi driver time, people

00:43:00.020 call him crazy.

00:43:01.620 Um, but he said, I believe in Manhattan and I think Manhattan can come back.

00:43:04.960 He tried to do whatever Trump world was going to be there.

00:43:07.740 Trump city was going to be a thing on the, um, what was that on the, uh, on the Hudson.

00:43:13.120 And there were, there was this, this whole bit, he never quite got all the way there

00:43:16.800 with it, but he believed in this idea that you could bring the cities back.

00:43:21.240 And under Giuliani, it was the two of them from an economic and a, a criminal perspective,

00:43:26.100 the broken windows policy.

00:43:27.540 And every, almost every time that I do one of these with, uh, with mayor Giuliani, I

00:43:31.260 always bring that up to say, I say, Mr. Mayor, you know, you were the man who fixed this.

00:43:36.840 You were the one who had the right answer.

00:43:38.480 And part of, not the only reason, but part of the reason I think they demonize him is

00:43:42.800 because they don't want anyone considering doing that again.

00:43:47.340 Yeah.

00:43:47.700 I was reminded, I was just looking up.

00:43:49.700 Um, I was reminded when I went, there's a little, um, town in the South of France,

00:43:55.260 Bézier and Bézier, you know, being in the South of France, a lot of people can imagine the

00:44:01.220 types of migrant crime that, that were going on.

00:44:03.900 There is extremely gang related Arab dominated, um, crime that was going on down there. 1.00

00:44:11.460 And, and the mayor, he was actually, he's a chap called Robert Menard.

00:44:15.660 He, um, he was off the left defected to the right, but not to any right political party.

00:44:23.400 Just sort of said like, you know, I don't associate with the left anymore.

00:44:26.420 And by the way, we're going to clean up this city now it's a small, it's a small city, but

00:44:31.400 what he did was obviously massive, you know, policing presence, physically cleaning up the

00:44:36.420 neighborhoods.

00:44:36.760 He says that did a huge amount, uh, for, for, for stopping crime, you know, broken windows

00:44:42.360 policy.

00:44:43.200 Yeah.

00:44:43.600 I mean, literally cleaning grime off the buildings.

00:44:46.640 He said, you know, just changed people's, um, interpretations of where they were and what

00:44:51.120 they were doing there.

00:44:51.820 Um, and then he instituted this thing called, called the big brother program where he actually

00:44:56.680 went into these communities and recruited from within these communities, people who acted

00:45:01.580 as police liaison officers to the leading gang members.

00:45:04.960 And so every time that there was a big bust up, big shooting, whatever, they would have this

00:45:10.220 community come together with the police, the big brothers and the gangs themselves, right?

00:45:15.760 Because a lot of these gang members, right?

00:45:17.800 Remember our teenagers still.

00:45:19.320 So they don't necessarily, and their families live there too.

00:45:23.220 Right.

00:45:24.120 And, and he credited that.

00:45:25.920 And I know it's a little bit more of a softer touch and it's a little bit like negotiating

00:45:30.980 with the Taliban.

00:45:32.240 Right.

00:45:32.740 But at the end of the day, the, the Taliban taking over.

00:45:37.600 Well, you've also got, you've also got El Presidente down there in El Salvador.

00:45:41.500 Who's, who's got a little bit of a different approach.

00:45:44.800 Um, but again, that's, that's because in his situation, I mean.

00:45:49.360 The gangs had become, uh.

00:45:51.960 Institutions.

00:45:52.960 In, they, they were taking over the country. 0.99

00:45:55.880 They were taking over the entire country.

00:45:57.240 Becoming the government.

00:45:58.160 Right.

00:45:58.480 They were effectively the government in certain areas.

00:46:00.760 If you wore the wrong number on your shoes or your shirt, or you, or you run, wore the

00:46:05.260 wrong brand of shoes in a certain area.

00:46:07.340 Oh, that's a rival brand.

00:46:08.160 So you're going to, it doesn't matter how old you are.

00:46:09.700 You're shot up.

00:46:10.520 Right.

00:46:10.880 Like we're, we're down to our last five minutes, but there's this policy that president Trump

00:46:16.480 has called for where he, it all, I don't know if it sounds like he's abandoning the cities

00:46:21.840 or what, but he said, you know, let's, let's, let's, let's, um, let's go there.

00:46:25.700 Let's say he's talked about creating 10 American freedom cities, brand new cities from scratch.

00:46:34.220 And I get the impression that in him saying that he's referring to all of these issues

00:46:40.560 that we were talking about of the current cities and I have to give him credit for having a

00:46:45.500 forward look.

00:46:46.160 I don't know anyone else out in the playing field right now who's, who's suggested any

00:46:49.760 kind of futuristic vision for America, uh, other than simply like, like you and I have

00:46:54.300 been saying, just reacting to all of it, um, which are things that can be done.

00:46:57.740 But what do you, what do you think of that, of that idea?

00:47:00.260 What do you think, does it appeal to you?

00:47:01.580 Do you think it's charismatic, this idea that we can create new cities and hopefully avoid

00:47:06.380 these pitfalls?

00:47:06.980 Yeah, it is weird that, that in a lot of places we've given up creating new places throughout

00:47:14.880 human history, there hasn't really been the relent on, on the development of, of, of new,

00:47:21.120 um, urban and suburban areas as there has been in, in recent decades.

00:47:26.140 So I think even just from a planning perspective, right, a developmental perspective, a futurist

00:47:32.300 perspective, this is one of the problems I always have with my own side is that we all,

00:47:36.120 we conservatives are always so easy and quick to, to lament the problems with today, but

00:47:41.540 never, never that quick to suggest the solutions.

00:47:43.700 And I, I do like that solution for that reason.

00:47:46.340 I like that solution also because it serves to underscore some of the other points that

00:47:49.920 we've been making about architecture and beauty and aesthetics and city planning and all of

00:47:55.540 this stuff where we can actually do this and start from scratch and go like, okay, let's

00:47:59.820 take the best of this, this, and this, and the best of this, this, and this.

00:48:03.820 And we put that all together, new city.

00:48:05.560 Great.

00:48:05.880 Fine.

00:48:06.520 Which by the way, if you know Donald Trump, that that's, I mean, he's, he's, he's a builder.

00:48:10.740 He's a real estate developer.

00:48:11.540 That's kind of the whole point of Donald Trump originally before all the rest of everything

00:48:15.780 else.

00:48:16.580 What I'm still unsure of is what he's talking about when he talks about tent cities and

00:48:21.360 he talks about taking, taking a lot of the homeless out of current existing American

00:48:26.020 cities and moving them to tent cities, you know, effectively in the suburbs, right?

00:48:30.240 He's talking about, he's talking about doing this just outside of, and I just think that

00:48:34.680 hasn't fully been fleshed out yet.

00:48:35.940 It sounds to me like one of these.

00:48:37.320 Right.

00:48:37.500 You've got to find some kind of remote.

00:48:40.300 Well, actually I used to be at Fort Meade and there's a, uh, down the way from there

00:48:45.260 is actually where the DC juvenile hall is.

00:48:48.600 So it's, it's, it's physically in Maryland, but, um, it's actually land that's not owned

00:48:54.720 by the federal government.

00:48:55.480 It's just, it's immediately adjacent to Fort Meade, but it's where NSA is, but it's actually

00:49:01.620 owned by the city of DC and it's where they held their juvenile hall.

00:49:05.420 So, I mean, or, you know, Atlanta is kind of doing their, um, remember they were, they're

00:49:09.600 having that, that, uh, tree house Antifa, um, situation.

00:49:14.520 And, uh, and the, so there, there are areas outside of cities that are underdeveloped or

00:49:18.560 undeveloped, I, I think could be used, but yeah, I would obviously hope that they're not

00:49:22.520 going into the suburbs.

00:49:23.800 I could have a NIMBY problem on that one.

00:49:26.020 Not call them tent cities, like, because, you know, we all remember Hoovervilles or, you

00:49:30.920 know, not, not firsthand, but we know what Hoovervilles were.

00:49:34.520 And we, you, you know, as soon as these things are developed, they're going to use it against

00:49:37.300 him, whether or not it improves the cities or not.

00:49:40.020 Um, I, I think what it does is give him the ability to.

00:49:44.520 Have a solution.

00:49:45.420 It's like the wall, right?

00:49:46.380 It's, it starts a conversation.

00:49:48.420 It starts the conversation, but it also, it's also very clearly Donald Trump, the real,

00:49:53.500 the real estate guy who's looking at major American cities and going, I wouldn't invest

00:49:59.360 there, you know, and he's trying to think of like, what would make you invest there again?

00:50:03.380 Like, how would you rejuvenate these places that took hundreds of years to build up?

00:50:08.500 Because you, you wouldn't want to lose them, right?

00:50:10.820 You don't really want to lose downtown Dallas.

00:50:13.600 You don't really want to lose midtown Manhattan.

00:50:16.980 Um, I, I'm shocked when I go out to, to, to West coast of what you see in LA, what you

00:50:22.160 see in Seattle, what you see in Portland.

00:50:24.040 And so I think it's coming from a good place.

00:50:26.380 I just think it needs a little bit more fleshing out than just saying, we're going to build 10

00:50:30.100 cities on the edge of cities.

00:50:31.300 Like you're doing what we are.

00:50:33.780 We are, we are, we're just up against time here.

00:50:35.920 Raheem Kassam, final thoughts on the issue.

00:50:38.360 American no-go zones. 0.72

00:50:39.460 What do we do?

00:50:39.940 It's a fantastic thing that we're having this conversation because it means that some,

00:50:43.660 some forward progress is, is, you know, within, within sight.

00:50:47.840 Um, these are the positive kinds of conversations that you need to have about how you improve.

00:50:51.820 And look, I always say this, um, cities can be great places.

00:50:55.760 I understand it's not for everybody.

00:50:57.500 It's definitely for me.

00:50:59.240 Um, I like everything on my doorstep.

00:51:00.880 I'm a walker.

00:51:01.500 I'm not a driver.

00:51:02.280 You know, I don't do manual labor.

00:51:03.660 Um, and so I think, I think it's a good conversation to have because maybe it will mean that certain

00:51:10.020 people who might've spent some time in cities before, but have been put off from it for

00:51:13.700 a long time might start thinking about, oh, okay, well, if we're going to improve them,

00:51:17.720 we're going to zhuzh them up. 0.95

00:51:18.820 We're going to reintroduce real policing into these areas.

00:51:21.320 Then American cities can be great again.

00:51:23.220 They should be.

00:51:24.640 Amen.

00:51:25.040 You know, a funny note on that.

00:51:26.700 Um, so of course, you know, you, you and my wife, what you have in common is that you're

00:51:29.900 both from Europe.

00:51:30.920 Um, Europe is designed for walking.

00:51:32.780 Uh, the very, so Tanya drives here, but, um, usually like, you know, she calls when you're

00:51:39.720 drunk and, you know, she'll come and pick you up as, as, as happens. 0.99

00:51:42.840 Um, and the very first time she ever drove a car in Europe was last year.

00:51:50.340 She's never driven a car in Europe her entire life.

00:51:54.240 Before she moved to America when she was 18.

00:51:56.780 So that it, it blew my mind.

00:51:58.520 Cause she's why would I, what would I have to, you walk around town and then you take

00:52:01.400 the train to the next town and that's all you have to do.

00:52:03.720 Um, public transportation in major built up areas is not a bad thing.

00:52:08.360 Like I, I, I, I'm not a bus guy.

00:52:10.880 Um, frankly, nowadays I'm not a train.

00:52:13.320 I'm not a, you know, a tube guy either.

00:52:15.780 I did the tube a lot growing up, but, um, it can be very good.

00:52:20.000 It can be very, very effective.

00:52:21.540 Um, it can't be rotting tin cans being dragged down the street, like some kind of, you know,

00:52:27.400 like the H street sidecar, whatever it's called streetcar in Washington, DC, that the government

00:52:32.420 is now paying people to ride because nobody wants to take it because H street is so can

00:52:37.580 be done major walking American cities coming to a future near you.

00:52:42.580 Amazing.

00:52:42.700 Raheem Kassam, national polls and the sub stack.

00:52:45.280 Make sure to check out the sub stack and friend, always a pleasure.

00:52:47.960 Ladies and gentlemen, as always, you have my permission, lay it short.

Human Events Daily with Jack Posobiec - November 24, 2023

EPISODE 612： AMERICAN NO GO ZONES

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