EPISODE 619： WORLD WAR ASIA - LIVE FROM JAPAN PART 2
Episode Stats
Words per Minute
132.75061
Summary
Part 2 of the final session of the 4th Turning Point panel discussion on the possibility of a full-on war between Israel and Hamas. Host Jack Posobiec and panelists Hitoshi Aoyaki, Keigo Takasaki, and Gordon Chang discuss the implications for Japan and the Middle East.
Transcript
00:00:00.000
Ladies and gentlemen, we know Christmas is coming, but before Christmas, the gathering
00:00:11.540
Tucker Carlson, Candace Owens, myself, Donald Trump Jr., Steve Bannon, Roseanne Barr, yeah,
00:00:21.240
that's right, Rob Schneider, James Lindsay, and so many more are going to be at this year's
00:00:27.340
Turning Point America Fest, December 16th to 19th, 2023, Phoenix, Arizona, you are going
00:00:35.300
to be there, your presence is required, go to amfest.com and use promo code POSO, that's
00:00:41.040
promo code POSO, amfest.com, secure your tickets now, don't come crying to me when this thing
00:00:47.780
is sold out like it does every single year, amfest.com, promo code POSO.
00:00:57.340
This is what happens when the fourth turning meets fifth generation warfare.
00:01:06.420
A commentator, international social media sensation, and former Navy intelligence veteran.
00:01:13.140
This is Human Events with your host, Jack Posobiec.
00:01:19.560
Today brings you part two of World War Asia, live from Tokyo, Japan.
00:01:25.300
Remember, this is myself, the leading experts of Japan, military experts, political experts,
00:01:32.760
medical experts, and we are joined by Gordon Chang.
00:01:36.540
Today we are talking about the grim possibility of what happens if the war in Israel, the war
00:01:42.680
that's going on, the proxy war in Ukraine, breaks out into a full-on war that engulfs the
00:01:54.060
Remember, this is Mearsheimer's warning that the United States would be brought into a multi-front
00:02:24.960
First, member of the House of Representatives and director of the International Bureau of
00:02:41.260
Next, senior editor and former naval intelligence officer, Mr. Jack Posobiec.
00:02:54.960
And CPAC board member, columnist, Gordon Chang.
00:03:13.500
Entrepreneur, YouTuber, and goodwill ambassador for Israel, Keigo Takasaki.
00:03:34.760
First of all, member of the House of Representatives and director of the International Bureau of
00:03:42.520
After graduating from university, he worked for JICA, where he worked on reducing poverty
00:03:52.960
He is the first class of the Isshin political training program.
00:03:57.620
And in 2021, he won the election in Osaka as a rookie member from the home ground of the
00:04:05.020
And he is currently director of the International Bureau of that party.
00:04:11.020
Senior editor and naval intelligence office veteran, Jack Posobiec.
00:04:24.880
Entrepreneur, YouTuber, goodwill ambassador for Israel, Keigo Takasaki.
00:05:02.040
Well, thank you very much for staying until the final session.
00:05:09.200
So what we see on the news every day, there are painful developments.
00:05:19.140
And this year, on the 7th of October, in the Gaza Strip of Israel, a war broke out.
00:05:30.800
So what kind of ripple effect will this have on the world and Japan?
00:05:40.580
First, let me go through some of the facts, starting with what happened.
00:05:45.180
And 7th of October, Hamas, which is an Islam-Turko group, I will talk about that in more detail
00:05:55.920
later, from their base in Gaza, launched missiles into Israel.
00:06:05.320
And between Gaza and Israel, there are various barriers and walls, which were destroyed by tractors
00:06:13.460
and park lighters were used to invade into Israel.
00:06:20.060
And on the Israel side, near Gaza, there were music festivals.
00:06:25.220
And so Hamas attacked such festivals, and many Jews, as well as Americans and other nationalities,
00:06:40.560
And Prime Minister Netanyahu of Israel called for the support across all parties
00:06:48.680
and established an emergency coalition government, and counterattacked by resiles, as well as ground
00:07:04.760
And so for 10 days, there was a stop in the fighting, which was terminated today and were broke out again.
00:07:13.000
And it is said that about 70% of the construction in Gaza has been destroyed during the attacks.
00:07:27.140
Hamas is a group that is calling out for an all-out war with Israel.
00:07:34.300
And from 2007, they have overtaken Gaza through military arms.
00:07:39.640
And they are now the main force behind this attack.
00:07:43.000
So Hamas in Gaza and Israel, the situation is very fluid, as well as very violent.
00:07:57.460
So what kind of impact this will have on the world and Japan will be the main topic of today's discussion.
00:08:05.780
In Israel and in Gaza, what is happening, truly?
00:08:16.240
I would like to invite Jack Bolsovik, who was an information officer as well as a journalist, please.
00:08:23.380
And, of course, your description of the attack, Hamas' attack on October 7th, was quite sufficient.
00:08:31.940
And, in fact, I believe that one of the main pieces to that attack that really caught the world by surprise
00:08:39.720
was the fact that the Israeli defense forces were caught by surprise, that there seemed to be no security whatsoever.
00:08:47.440
These areas of Gaza that have been, prior to then, heavily fortified were also maintained under strict surveillance and monitoring by the Japanese,
00:08:58.200
or excuse me, by the Israeli defense forces, the IDF.
00:09:02.120
And so the fact that Hamas was able to plan this, was able to conduct this attack,
00:09:07.400
and was able to be, from a military perspective, successful in this attack, really a terrorist attack, paramilitary, if you want to put it that way,
00:09:16.520
is very, very important, very, very significant, and must be investigated fully.
00:09:24.620
Currently on the ground in Gaza, as you say, there's been a 10-day ceasefire that ended today.
00:09:29.900
Because the ceasefire ended, you're now seeing the uptick in, so we saw the hostages returned.
00:09:35.600
Now you're seeing the strategic bombing by the Israelis has continued northern Gaza predominantly.
00:09:43.820
However, there are and have also been fighter strikes in the south, in southern Gaza, along Rafa, along some of the other axes.
00:09:51.400
You're also seeing this encirclement by the IDF ground forces of Gaza in the north.
00:09:57.340
This is where they believe most of the hostages currently are.
00:10:02.320
This is where the hospital was that's been the center of so much of the fighting.
00:10:06.820
So the specific ground operations have mainly been around the north.
00:10:12.220
Their tanks, their soldiers have been encircling it.
00:10:14.840
However, they have not penetrated deep inside Gaza City yet,
00:10:19.260
because, of course, it is so heavily fortified, and there are so many hostilities.
00:10:26.600
In fact, believe it or not, it's even an area that's more dense than Tokyo itself.
00:10:31.180
These people are literally living on top of each other in this area,
00:10:34.820
many of whom are hostile, many are not hostile.
00:10:39.720
This is why the Israeli Defense Force, the IDF,
00:10:42.800
is still using this bombing campaign and tanks as little as possible,
00:10:48.560
because they know that the minute they send ground forces into Gaza City itself,
00:10:53.340
Gaza City proper, they are going to be attacked on all sides by Hamas and their allies.
00:10:59.940
Thank you very much for your concise and very exact description of the current events.
00:11:07.340
So, Takasaki-san, you were on the vaccination model.
00:11:15.480
So, in YouTube, you can't say vaccine, but now I can say vaccine very clearly.
00:11:24.160
But you're also the ambassador, goodwill ambassador for Israel.
00:11:29.220
So, what is the current status of Israel as you see it, Mr. Takasaki?
00:11:37.300
Well, let me just state at the onset that I am an official goodwill ambassador for Israel.
00:11:46.000
But what is being done by Israel administration,
00:11:51.420
I'm not going to justify everything that they're doing.
00:11:55.080
I do think that Israel needs to do some soul-searching as its identity.
00:12:02.420
So, now, Prime Minister Netanyahu is acting like God to some extent.
00:12:12.320
So, I would like to share my frank views with you.
00:12:17.160
So, there are two points that I would like to raise.
00:12:26.160
Because the world is being moved in a direction that they feel bad for the people in Gaza
00:12:42.320
And so, Hamas has been making many fake accounts and creating news of, for example, little children crying.
00:12:53.960
And that is being spread to all over the world.
00:12:58.100
So, why Israel has to bomb these civilian areas?
00:13:03.360
Well, Hamas' sole mission is to completely destroy the nation of Israel.
00:13:08.400
And the presence of Hamas is, of course, an existential threat to Israel.
00:13:14.080
But if they try to attack Hamas, actually, their tunnels are like a beehive.
00:13:21.560
And so, they need to find the entry point into these tunnels.
00:13:25.540
And Hamas actually places the entry point under hospitals or schools.
00:13:30.800
So, they are making the people of Gaza as the defense.
00:13:40.720
And so, they need to – and so, Israel is forced into attacking civilians
00:13:46.480
because hospitals and schools are actually guarding these tunnels entry.
00:13:51.960
And also, is there a clear delineation between the fighters and the citizens?
00:14:01.440
Actually, it's very difficult because the Hamas do not wear the battle gear.
00:14:10.900
And from their childhood, they were educated based on hatred that Israel is evil.
00:14:19.220
That was the education for the past 18, 20 years by Hamas.
00:14:25.020
And so, the children who are educated in this manner is now becoming 18 years old, 20 years old.
00:14:30.440
And so, it is very difficult to clarify who are the fighters, who are the civilians.
00:14:41.580
So, Israel has notified the civilians to escape into the south.
00:14:45.980
But Hamas is actually preventing them from escaping or evacuating.
00:14:51.120
So, it's such a difficult situation for Israel.
00:14:55.920
In combat, even in the activities and behavior of civilians, it's hard to imagine living in Japan.
00:15:06.660
So, I think the fact that it's hard to imagine living in Japan was understood by the audience.
00:15:10.940
Now, this all started in October, this conflict between Israel and Hamas.
00:15:27.640
During the Trump administration, there was the Abraham Accord between Israel and Arab countries.
00:15:36.740
But Biden administration turned that over, upended that.
00:15:41.200
And after Trump left, Israel and the fundamentalists in Palestine, extremists, have forgotten what Trump said.
00:15:53.760
So, this conflict will impact the Middle East situation in general.
00:15:59.960
Gordon Chang and Mr. Posevic, could you share with us your hypothesis, your analysis?
00:16:07.220
Well, first of all, what we're seeing is region-wide conflict.
00:16:14.380
It's now the Houthi militia and Hezbollah as well.
00:16:18.140
All three groups are Iranian proxies, and they're backed by China.
00:16:22.700
And so, we've got a region right now that looks like it's going to slip into further conflict.
00:16:33.100
But I think that governments in the region realize that Hamas has got to be destroyed.
00:16:40.080
If you talk to the Gulf Arabs, other than Qatar, you'll find that nobody there wants Hamas to exist anymore.
00:16:50.380
And that is good, in a sense, that they're coming to that assessment.
00:16:54.740
But also, Iran understands this, which means that this war will continue for some time.
00:17:01.300
And remember, this is being fueled by Iran, which is being fueled by China.
00:17:06.080
And those are actors that want this to continue.
00:17:09.480
So, I think that we shouldn't expect that this will last quite a long time.
00:17:15.160
Remember, this is occurring in the context of a general breakdown in peace and stability around the world.
00:17:20.620
So, what would normally maybe be a short-term war, I think will become a long-term one.
00:17:33.900
Well, I agree with Gordon that this regional conflict has already escalated beyond just Israel-Hamas.
00:17:40.520
Of course, Israel-Hamas is the most kinetic form of this, but not only do you see Hezbollah and the Houthis getting involved,
00:17:49.320
but now we are seeing all sorts of Iranian-backed groups across the Levant, across Syria, from Iran, and also inside Iraq,
00:17:57.840
making attacks on U.S. bases and current U.S. forces that operate on those bases within these areas,
00:18:04.500
many of which with Kurdish defense forces, the SDF, and so forth.
00:18:09.180
And so, because the U.S. has such a robust footprint across the Middle East, it still continues to do so.
00:18:14.700
All of those bases will currently be within and are now basically with crosshairs on their backs.
00:18:23.200
What Gordon says about the context, the greater context of the world order,
00:18:27.480
one subject that we didn't discuss on our last panel, but I'd certainly love to broach,
00:18:32.040
is, of course, the rise of BRICS and the rise of the BRICS nations, the BRICS bloc.
00:18:37.460
At their recent summit, they were not able to agree on increasing the number of BRICS nations,
00:18:44.560
but we've already seen Saudi Arabia has applied to join, Iran has applied to join,
00:18:49.360
and certainly some combination of this or some relationship will take place.
00:18:53.220
What's happened is that Russia and China have fused such a mutually beneficial relationship,
00:19:01.980
and now with Russia being isolated from much of the Western world,
00:19:06.200
you're seeing this new bloc form an economic and then eventually military relationship
00:19:12.520
away from the West and away from the United States and its allies.
00:19:16.280
So in order to understand how all of this is moving, we must also look at it through the lens of the BRICS nations
00:19:24.000
and the way they view themselves as hardening themselves, strengthening their military,
00:19:28.480
strengthening their posture against what they view as NATO, what they view as potentially a threat from NATO.
00:19:36.580
And then, of course, the question being, does Xi Jinping view Japan and view these other nations
00:19:42.500
as threats to itself, the way that we're seeing Russia and now the way we're seeing Iran respond?
00:19:53.680
BRICS was mentioned. Thank you for mentioning that.
00:19:59.880
And this will lead to the final point, so I'm going to delve deep into that subject later on.
00:20:04.200
But before I do so, this Israel versus Hamas conflict will impact the Middle East situation in general.
00:20:11.760
If that were the case, in fact, in Japan, that would have many impacts to Japan.
00:20:16.700
What serious is, currently in Japan, the oil we consume, 90 percent is from the Arab countries.
00:20:25.120
So, this is directly linked to the energy issue, which we, the Japanese, must consider.
00:20:33.620
So, with the state of situation in the Middle East becoming more flux, what impact will there be?
00:20:42.360
You are the Policy Research Council leader in the Japan Innovation Party, right?
00:20:52.300
I'm with the House of Representatives, and I'm a board member of the Foreign Affairs Committee.
00:20:57.040
And at the board meeting of the Foreign Affairs Committee, 20 Arab countries' ambassadors came,
00:21:05.420
For the sake of fairness, we invited later on Israeli ambassadors, and they were talking about many things.
00:21:13.280
But the Arab ambassadors were all saying the following point.
00:21:23.300
They were saying, you can freely attack and criticize Hamas, but if there's violence of international law,
00:21:34.580
That's the kind of Japan, with the fairness that we believe Japan has,
00:21:37.920
and that's the kind of Japan we want to continue to be prince with.
00:21:42.780
Jay said, going forward, will there be economic impact?
00:21:48.420
Because Ukraine, Russia, there is oil shortage from imports, and that has caused inflation,
00:22:00.400
And mostly 100% of our oil comes from Middle East, so that is going to further flame inflation.
00:22:08.000
So we have to control the situation as early as possible.
00:22:11.020
But one point that I should have said before, what kind of position should Japan take?
00:22:21.640
This year, we are the presidency of the G7, and currently we are number four.
00:22:28.440
Germany has surpassed 200 countries around the world.
00:22:34.900
Now, military spending presence is not so bad either.
00:22:47.140
First, G7 presidency, and there's one ally, U.S., is part of the G7.
00:22:53.640
So if there's going to be a world war, as you mentioned, Israel is supported by many of
00:23:00.460
the G7, and Hamas, Palestine, is supported by China, Russia, and Iran.
00:23:09.900
But on the other hand, if we do that, then what would happen to global peace?
00:23:16.980
Because with this incident, for example, Israel ran against the resolution of the United Nations,
00:23:25.100
and even after the resolution was adopted, they continued to criticize.
00:23:29.240
So international order is something that all countries should abide by.
00:23:32.860
We need an organization to uphold international order, and Japan should exercise leadership
00:23:37.240
to uphold international order, or else it would lead to long-term peace in Japan.
00:23:41.880
So there are these two perspectives, especially in the case of the latter.
00:23:46.160
Arab countries have high hopes towards Japan regarding the latter, and for Japan, when we
00:23:51.020
think about permanent and long-lacing peace, we shouldn't be overly simplistic about the
00:23:58.480
So what would be our position in the future global community?
00:24:02.440
In the Security Council of the United States, finally, a resolution was adopted, and I talked
00:24:08.000
Four times, voting was conducted, but U.S. veto, disabled.
00:24:14.420
They asked Russia and the United States to abstain in order to have the resolution adopted at
00:24:23.780
Ambassador Ishigane of Japan said, finally, Security Council delivered something.
00:24:28.300
That's what he said after the resolution was adopted.
00:24:30.600
If the UN Security Council stops functioning, that's the end.
00:24:34.260
So we have to have the international order continue to function, and I think that's needed
00:24:42.360
That was a very important point that you touched upon.
00:24:45.520
So listening to Aoyagi-san, I thought about this.
00:24:49.820
Japan actually has no direct involvement in Israel or Palestine.
00:24:58.760
We don't really have any direct stake or interest in it.
00:25:03.260
So Japan has some distance that we can keep, and so we can comment from neutral grounds and
00:25:08.840
perhaps point to a certain direction from a neutral point of view.
00:25:13.480
So Japan is in a special position in that sense.
00:25:17.760
So rather than letting the situation escalate, as Representative Aoyagi said, how we can prevent
00:25:25.740
escalation, if we can prevent the war from getting larger, that would be a positive role
00:25:35.140
So getting back to CPAC, in U.S. domestically, what is the current situation of U.S. given the
00:25:47.900
So we have seen on the news that there are many people who are voicing support to Israel.
00:25:53.980
On the other hand, there are also those who are more supportive of Hamas.
00:25:59.520
And even amongst the liberals, there are people who support Israel.
00:26:04.680
And there is a lot of confusion and a lot of demonstrations going on in New York and other
00:26:09.580
So what is happening in the U.S. in light of the presidential election?
00:26:16.900
What kind of impact will the war in Israel have in U.S.?
00:26:21.180
I'd like to ask both Jack and Gordon, starting with Jack, please.
00:26:25.060
Well, as you say, Jay, there have been many rallies across the United States and really
00:26:30.400
parts of Western Europe as well in support of what they call the Palestinian Freedom Cause,
00:26:35.920
Palestinian Liberation, and many others point that this is a very anti-Israel position.
00:26:42.540
Predominantly, the people who are at these rallies, they find themselves on the left politically.
00:26:48.600
So this is part of what we would consider the Democrat coalition.
00:26:53.160
However, there is a significant split now in the Democrat coalition because you would
00:27:00.060
Some are ethnic groups like BLM, some of them are socialist groups like the Democrat Socialists
00:27:07.340
However, there is also the main stripe of a mainstream Democrat like your Joe Biden, like
00:27:12.680
a Hillary Clinton, perhaps even a Gavin Newsom, which is a neoliberal form of Democrat.
00:27:18.720
By and large, they and the Democrat leadership are pro-Israel and at least have nominally said
00:27:26.660
Although, there have been many instances, even within the White House itself, because
00:27:31.500
there are so many pro-Islamic groups within the United States now, certainly even many
00:27:40.460
And so Joe Biden has found himself in this position where he's had to act as sort of supporting
00:27:49.420
Politically speaking, this split on the Democrat side in their coalition is very advantageous
00:27:56.820
to, I believe, not just conservatives, but to pragmatic Americans who can see that one
00:28:04.440
side of which is supporting a terrorist organization, whereas the other side stands with maintaining
00:28:11.020
that strong world order, having the ability to actually stand for rights, for international
00:28:18.920
Of course, this being the side that Donald Trump has always stood on, the side of peace, the
00:28:24.940
And so I think it's something where they view Biden's mismanagement as incredibly terrible,
00:28:30.800
not only in Ukraine and Taiwan, but here in Israel, whereby in, look, when President Trump
00:28:36.820
was there three years ago, these types of things weren't happening.
00:28:40.000
Now we have a world that is spiraling into war.
00:28:43.260
This makes it much, much more likely that Donald Trump will be elected.
00:28:48.340
And we're also seeing in polling that moderates and independents are now swinging back towards
00:28:53.600
Donald Trump where they were in the original election in 2016.
00:29:01.940
You know, the October 7 war has split the Democrats, as Jack just talked about.
00:29:07.860
The Ukraine war, if you want to look at this from a mirror point of view, split the Republicans
00:29:15.140
But as Jack points out, and this I think is the most important point, and that is that whatever
00:29:22.060
one thought of Donald Trump's foreign policies, they kept the world at peace.
00:29:26.940
It was a stable world that Joe Biden inherited when he took the oath of office.
00:29:35.320
And I think that that has changed internal politics in the U.S.
00:29:39.160
Basically, that whatever one thinks about Joe Biden's domestic policies, they think that
00:29:44.640
the United States and the world can't stand his foreign policies because he's been responsible
00:29:56.040
And I think that that also helps heal the Republicans because although the split on Ukraine is a very
00:30:02.340
serious one in the Republican Party, I think people are starting to understand that this
00:30:07.200
is an existential fight, and that will tend to heal the divisions in the Republican Party.
00:30:13.240
Of course, you know, this is inherently an unpredictable situation, but it, I think, spells trouble for
00:30:22.320
Gordon, if I could add to that, typically we don't see in American electoral politics,
00:30:32.080
Usually economics is number one, crime, immigration, somewhere up there, but foreign policy is low.
00:30:38.740
We're now seeing in polling that this may be the very first election in modern American history
00:30:44.520
where foreign policy makes it into the top three choices because particularly Joe Biden's
00:30:50.820
foreign policy has been so mismanaged and so poor.
00:30:54.340
And we've got another year for things to fall apart even further, as is now starting to appear
00:30:59.680
that even the Western Hemisphere might fall into a conflict situation with Venezuela attacking
00:31:05.220
Guiana, its neighbor, this is a conflict that's been simmering for a very long time, but has,
00:31:11.300
you know, under prior presidents, has maintained peace.
00:31:14.560
And now under Biden, that too is falling apart.
00:31:22.180
So, there is a massive confusion that is happening in the U.S., and that could very much impact
00:31:31.280
So, before we move on to the last topic, is there a way to resolve this issue?
00:31:39.240
Let us just stand apart and think about the resolution.
00:31:44.220
So, Mr. Takasaki, you're also a Christian, as well as a good ambassador for Israel.
00:31:50.720
So, from your position, how do you think that we can prevent the war in Israel from escalating
00:31:59.260
It could be just a hypothesis, but what do you think is the way to resolve this?
00:32:06.520
Another point, from the perspective of the third shrine, in the Old Testament, there is
00:32:19.100
the second cathedral was broken, and then the third cathedral was, if the third cathedral
00:32:28.540
is constructed, the Messiah of the Jews will come down to earth.
00:32:35.180
It is the Jerusalem Golden Dome, which is a very important, sacred place for Israel.
00:32:45.740
So, if you want to construct the third shrine or cathedral, you have to break that or destruct
00:32:57.240
And Iran is an Islamic country, so they don't want that to be destructed.
00:33:03.020
So, Islam and Jews, Old Testament, is the very basis.
00:33:12.300
On the other hand, Christians believe in the New Testament, which is about a new contract.
00:33:21.440
So, I think you can find the answer there, in the New Testament.
00:33:24.580
Christian Jews and Arab Jews, there are those people who are minorities, and they are hugging
00:33:34.140
They have forgiven each other, and they are in solidarity, and that's reality.
00:33:39.120
And also, the book, you can't buy it today, but if you read that, the founder of Hamas, read
00:33:49.360
the Christian Bible, and was really impressed by the word of Jesus, love your enemy.
00:34:01.520
He never heard anyone said that, love thy enemy.
00:34:14.920
So, there are two that only is based upon the Old Testament, who are fighting against
00:34:21.200
each other, but then there is the New Testament.
00:34:23.920
And if both sides become aware, and is enlightened by the New Testament, there could be a resolution.
00:34:37.920
Looking over the history of humanity, one major reason of war is religion.
00:34:45.920
There are always differences in religion or ideology at the back of major wars.
00:34:51.920
And so, what you said, Mr. Takasaki, there is forgiveness or grace as part of Christianity,
00:35:04.920
So, let me move on to the last topic, this war in the Middle East.
00:35:13.920
We do not want to see this escalate into a world war, in worst case, third world war.
00:35:22.920
So, that is the topic that I want to talk about last.
00:35:26.920
So, if you could keep your comments brief, I'd like to ask Gordon and Jack, your views about
00:35:33.920
We certainly don't want that to happen, but we've got to remember that it's not the United
00:35:37.920
States or Japan or the West that is driving events these days.
00:35:42.920
It is a coalition of Russia, China, Iran, North Korea, maybe Algeria that is setting fires around the world.
00:35:49.920
And while I would like to certainly forgive and love my enemies, nonetheless, our enemies don't love us.
00:35:56.920
And so, therefore, we have to be prepared for the worst.
00:36:06.920
So, can you again delve on that point as well as you share with us whether this will evolve into a world war?
00:36:13.920
Well, I certainly believe that while BRICS is at its heart an economic alliance, we're already seeing the inter-military activity
00:36:24.920
And so, I believe that will increase, maybe not so much with India, but certainly between Russia and China.
00:36:29.920
For my perspective, we must understand that great power competition is always going to be part of the international system.
00:36:39.920
It's certainly always going to be part of any decision that's made from the United States, from China, from Japan,
00:36:46.920
really any other, any great power in the world.
00:36:49.920
But the main thing that I would say for the United States that what we must learn is that we cannot force the hand of any of these nations.
00:36:58.920
And so, this is why I've always been so supportive and continue to be supportive of President Trump and his ability to bring all sides together
00:37:07.920
to create peace deals, but at the same time maintain a credible deterrence through the use of military force if he needs to.
00:37:16.920
And that's why, in 2025, when he returns to the White House, I predict he will go to the Middle East,
00:37:22.920
he'll end that battle, he'll go to Europe, he'll end that, and he will come to Asia and restore the balance of power here as well.
00:37:34.920
So, the re-election of President Trump is indeed the key to peace for the world.
00:37:44.920
Lastly, I'd like to ask Representative Aoyagi, if the war in Israel becomes a world war and impacts Japan,
00:37:55.920
how prepared is Japan or what kind of preparation do we need to make?
00:38:01.920
Well, as a politician, as part of the International Bureau, Japan is not prepared for war at all.
00:38:13.920
If you ask the Minister of Defense or the Minister of Foreign Affairs, we're not prepared.
00:38:17.920
And our party is probably the most vocal about the need to build up a robust defense capability.
00:38:25.920
But from our point of view, we're not at all prepared.
00:38:28.920
So, if a world war breaks out, there's really nothing that we can do.
00:38:35.920
But one thing I wanted to note was that more than anything, we need ceasefire.
00:38:40.920
Because the earlier the ceasefire will be, the less people will need to be – can stay.
00:38:53.920
So, in Afghanistan, there were like 130,000 troops with NATO and the U.S.
00:39:01.920
So, what happened was because over the past 20 years, the number of Taliban combatants never decreased.
00:39:09.920
Many were killed, but the number never decreased.
00:39:13.920
Because parents whose children are killed never forgive the enemy.
00:39:17.920
And same for the children whose parents are killed.
00:39:20.920
So, we need to decrease these people who lose their family members.
00:39:26.920
Because the longer the war goes on, the more they dedicate their life to defeating the enemy.
00:39:34.920
So, Prime Minister Netanyahu must achieve a ceasefire because he said that he will kill all the members of Hamas.
00:39:45.920
That is something that we have learned from history.
00:39:49.920
So, Japan should not support such an impossible strategy.
00:39:59.920
And so, there was a talk about the importance of forgiveness.
00:40:02.920
We need to be – that's what we need to promote.
00:40:08.920
But as a politician, I am not in a position to comment responsibly on that question.
00:40:19.920
And currently, the Japan Innovation Party, as the second opposition party, should become the first opposition party.
00:40:25.920
And President Bapa, he's been criticized for radical words.
00:40:31.920
But, Mr. Aoyagi, as far as we listen to your comments, I feel the mission, strong mission and commitment of your party.
00:40:44.920
And when you go back home, take back from this session, what do you think?
00:40:59.920
Japan can continue to be in a neutral position.
00:41:02.920
So, Japan has a great role to play to minimize the wars.
00:41:06.920
And as Aoyagi-san said, to achieve ceasefire, we truly hope that this will be an opportunity for you to seriously think about this subject.
00:41:13.920
And thank you once again for your participation.
00:41:21.920
Once again, please give the panelists a big round of applause.
00:41:25.920
Thank you so much for listening and taking part in this historic seminar, CPAC Japan.
00:41:38.920
I want to thank the hosts and the organizers of CPAC Japan, Matt Schlapp and others, for putting all this together for us.
00:41:45.920
Gordon Chang, of course, as well as the experts in Japan.
00:41:49.920
Look, folks, we understand that the United States, our world, the rise of bricks, the proxy war in Ukraine, Israel, Hamas, all of this could potentially bring us to the witch's brew of World War Three.
00:42:09.920
There is a possibility to choose MAGA world peace.
00:42:16.920
And there are literally trillions of dollars between us and that future standing in our way.
00:42:24.920
The only way, the only chance that we have forward is the spirit of the working man and woman in this world.
00:42:34.920
Ladies and gentlemen, you have my permission to lay a short.
00:42:36.920
Join us and thousands of American patriots for an event unlike any other with the biggest speakers in the movement.
00:42:48.920
Featuring Charlie Kirk, Tucker Carlson, Roseanne Barr, Patrick Bett David, Candace Owens, Rob Schneider, Steve Bannon, Donald Trump Jr., Jack Posobiec, Riley Gaines, Tim Pool, Jonathan Isaac, Glenn Beck and more.
00:43:09.920
We are people that want to conserve the good, the true and the beautiful against those that want to try and destroy it.
00:43:16.920
December 16th through 19th in Phoenix, Arizona.