On this episode of HAPPY THANKSGIVING! President Trump and Vice President Joe Biden have a tense exchange of words with Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, and the House votes on articles of Impeachment against the President. Also on this edition of Human Events Daily: President Trump's new tax plan, Iran's nuclear deal with the United Arab Emirates, and much, much more!
00:20:29.920Our guest here is Dr. Taylor Marshall.
00:20:32.020He's talking about the importance of Christians taking up space, and Taylor, you've written a book on this.
00:20:39.460You've talked about sort of the recession, I would say, the retreat of Western Christianity where people have just gotten so far.
00:20:49.480So they get knocked out of the public square in the 1960s, and I'm actually going to be recording an episode all about that for over the Christmas break.
00:20:59.180And then they just sort of find a way of coping and say, well, it's okay.
00:21:04.240We're just going to stay within our churches.
00:21:06.580We're going to stay within our parishes.
00:21:08.180But nothing that we say here affects what goes on outside.
00:21:11.700Of course, this was started by none other than JFK himself because when he was trying to get elected, the first thing he said was,
00:21:17.640my Catholic faith will not influence my political decisions.
00:21:23.540And then this is the same type of watered down Catholic and name only type of faith that you get from Joe Biden where they will say, oh, he goes every week.
00:21:34.140He goes and receives communion, but he doesn't actually do anything to live out his faith.
00:21:38.660So what has gone wrong with Catholics and just, you know, any Christian in the public space where we don't think that we have to actually apply our beliefs anymore?
00:21:51.160Well, it actually goes back to the 1800s.
00:21:53.720There is a steady infiltration in the universities, in the seminaries, in, you know, all the public sphere, especially in politics, that we can all be neutral.
00:22:05.160We can all we can all go along and get along and that we should leave our faith and our convictions at home and go into the public place and everything will be neutral.
00:22:19.200You know, you look at what you have to go through during June at your corporate job.
00:22:23.780You look at what's going on in major cities, blue cities.
00:22:27.700You look what's going on in public schools.
00:22:30.100You look what's going on in libraries.
00:22:31.680You realize that the left, the Satanists, the communists, they don't play by the same rules that we do.
00:22:40.260I mean, generally, I mean, there's, of course, bad Christians and bad conservatives out there.
00:22:44.780But generally, we try to live by a fair and upstanding mode of life.
00:22:48.800But they will manipulate the laws and they will manipulate the public arena to fight us, to undermine us and to take away our rights, our freedoms, our liberties.
00:23:00.640And I think we've largely, especially in the 60s, 70s, 80s, fell asleep.
00:23:04.900And I think it's a time for us to wake up and reassert our Christian identity, not just our conservative, but our Christian identity in the public space.
00:23:16.240I mean, that has to do with Christmas, too.
00:23:21.700And let's go back here, too, because let's go back here, too, to a little bit in, you know, from the 1800s, let's go back to the 1700s when the when the states were ratified, when the when the Bill of Rights was ratified, the First Amendment.
00:23:35.260We always had public displays of Christmas throughout state capitals.
00:23:41.760And as a matter of fact, for all the way up for almost 150 years, all the way into the 20th century, we even had blasphemy laws on the books in state after state.
00:23:52.680And none of that was seen as in contrivance.
00:23:55.420No Supreme Court justice all the way up into the 1900s started saying that that might be against the First Amendment because they saw it as, again, the expressive freedom of religion.
00:24:06.900There was no there's no right to commit blasphemy found anywhere in the First Amendment.
00:24:14.260But because we have gotten and I will give you know what and I'll give Ron DeSantis credit because he actually did say, even after he blamed this whole thing on Trump and found some weird, you know, the timing of the IRS tax code decision to say that it was Trump's fault.
00:24:28.380He did actually correctly say that Satanism was not one of the religions that was intended to be protected by the First Amendment, by the framers.
00:24:38.020We've gotten so far away from that line of thinking.
00:25:01.140Are you doing the you look at the Satanist and you're upset?
00:25:03.720But are you doing the equivalent of what we would call sharing our faith, proclaiming the gospel and then also doing good deeds to help and and minister to other people who need charity?
00:25:15.960That's what we should be doing, especially during December as Christians.
00:25:21.040So, you know, I just released a new book.
00:25:24.340It's about the historic real Santa Claus.
00:25:26.300And I think if we focus on what Christians have been doing historically when it comes to helping the most vulnerable, we can win this culture war.
00:25:35.640I mean, it's we Christians have done it before in centuries.
00:25:44.840Let's go back to Scripture and let's strengthen ourselves and and take up space for Christ.
00:25:51.220And we have this wonderful history of amazing Christians that lived throughout the centuries that preceded us.
00:25:59.460And I think that it's so great that you're putting this book out because I feel like people a lot of the time, especially in America, especially when I talk to American Christians, I feel that so many people kind of outside of TLM, outside of the Latin mass, they've gotten away from or in many cases haven't even heard of some of these amazing Christian heroes that have lived throughout the world.
00:26:21.220So tell me a little bit about the new book and how you're doing the work of bringing the true story of St. Nicholas back to us.
00:26:32.700Yeah, so the new book is called Nicolaus, which is the original Greek name of St. Nicholas, and it's number one bestseller and Christian fantasy and young adult history.
00:26:41.820And Nicolaus is the legendary ancient story of St. Nicholas, which is about a man who loses everything and he has three daughters and he's tempted to sell them into prostitution.
00:26:54.340Remember, this is ancient Roman culture.
00:27:00.640And through a bunch of miracles and interventions, he ends up being able to redeem these three girls from sex trafficking, from prostitution.
00:27:08.140And so I took that ancient story of the historical St. Nicholas, who becomes Santa Claus in American culture.
00:27:14.300But I wanted to show who the real Nicholas was.
00:27:16.640And so I recreated and retold that story in a historical fiction format.
00:27:21.440And so if you want to know who the real Nicholas was and you want to read a fun Christmas novel, check out my new book.
00:29:56.700You know, there are some people who say that actually the Bama Fett statue is is appropriate because Christian, like all the holidays, has a pagan origin.
00:30:09.640I have a book called Eternal City and I was on the book of God's Birthday.
00:30:12.960And it explains that historically there is very good reason to believe that Christ was born in late December and that he was born late December 1 B.C.
00:30:24.340So if you want to learn more about that, you can get my book Eternal City.
00:30:27.600It's a it's a book about church history, but it goes through everything we know on the left and on the right and all kinds of debates and make some pretty good conclusions that people like that will be interested.
00:33:30.460And worse, I mean, Jack, that was taken as an attack.
00:33:34.180You know, like you said that they don't really see that I'm helping them.
00:33:37.320That's been a big problem of the DeSantis campaign the entire time, even before it was a campaign.
00:33:43.120They don't know the difference between constructive criticism and attacks, and they go scorched earth.
00:33:48.440You know, I was, like, watching a meme the other day, and all I could think about was Garth Brooks, like, burning bridges, that song, Garth Brooks.
00:33:56.400And it's like they've burned so many bridges by reacting to people the way they did to you.
00:34:03.940I just don't know how they're going to recover.
00:34:05.980But, you know, the personal rich, you know, if I take my pundit hat off, the personal rich says that's not freedom of religion because Satan is anti-religion.
00:34:17.420Being a Satan worshiper is not – like, you're not really supposed to have freedom to do that.
00:34:25.100You know, I'm just saying because if – thinking from a theocracy point of view, or not even – theocratically, I guess, you know, he's anti-God.
00:34:34.400He was anti-religion, so I don't know how that falls under freedom of religion.
00:34:39.160But, Rich, let's talk about that for a second too because this is part of the new Supreme Court's test, which is essentially the originalist test.
00:34:47.420And there's so many people who still think that it's like the 1970s standards and, oh, which was textual.
00:34:54.700And textual meant, well, whatever the words of it say, we can read into it and we can interpret things.
00:34:59.500And it's the living – remember the living constitution?
00:35:14.780And in the same way, you must understand – now, the originalism test, right, the originalism test comes to us by way of the Second Amendment and the Second Amendment decisions.
00:35:25.320Now, these have been made, and people say, oh, Poso, that only applies to the Second Amendment.
00:35:42.420Here's an obvious example of fighting back in the culture wars, and you're going to instead blame Donald Trump instead of actually taking action.
00:35:50.060He does, by the way, say – and I'll give him credit.
00:36:02.700That's the same way – and that's the same way – that's the same way that our laws are now being asked for – our gun laws, gun regulations are now being asked under this new – it's called the Text, History, and Tradition Test, THT, that judges need to apply when it comes to these tests.
00:36:20.860And isn't it ridiculous, Rich, that we have to explain all this to people because in our – there's just been this problem in our party where we feel that we're not allowed to use government to do anything.
00:36:32.540And not even – by the way, not even to go to the level of pointing out that this is a state government, so they are not bound by federal government decisions on many of these things.
00:36:40.980Yeah, there's – that's what the fight between – and I hate the expression the new right and the old traditionalist right.
00:36:49.620I hate the expression the new right, Jack, because historically the new right is the historical right.
00:36:55.320It's just that the Bush era really brought in this era of different kind of Republican thinking and this concept of limited government at home, expansive government abroad, and never use government to protect the rights of citizens or to – even to exercise credible police power in order to protect someone's rights.
00:37:22.360And that's a misinterpretation of what –
00:37:25.180Can't use government, can't use government, can't use government, can't use government to do anything, not a lot.
00:37:29.640No, you still have a government, right?
00:37:31.480This is where despite what the ANCAPs and the Libertarians would have you believe, no, we do still have a government.
00:37:37.060It's called a limited constitutional republic.
00:37:41.100And for over 150 years in this country – I keep harping on this – we had blasphemy laws, anti-blasphemy laws on the books in the states because it was – and I'm not advocating people are like, oh, Posto's advocating for blasphemy laws.
00:37:54.180He's getting one step closer to Handmaid's Tale.
00:37:56.740I said, no, guys, that's not my point.
00:37:58.660My point is under the original jurisprudence of the understanding of the First Amendment, nobody would have thought that a display like this, which is obviously an anti-Christian hate display, and the group describes themselves as such on their website.
00:38:11.480They say they're not a religion, we just hate Christians, that it would never have been included under the First Amendment originally as understood.
00:38:19.900Jack, they were discussing the difference between the Anglican Church and the Congregationalists.
00:38:27.160Yeah, different factions of Christianity, and then also, especially when you get into your native state, Pennsylvania, that they were very concerned about people of Jewish faith being barred from having posts in government, right?
00:38:42.360So they wanted to make sure that they were protected as well.
00:38:45.520Nobody ever would have thought that they were protecting the rights of people to worship Satan because, again, and I said theocracy, I meant theologian hat, because that figure is the anti-religion figure.
00:39:03.080So our founders were very bright people, and they just – they would never have considered this because it doesn't make logical sense with their worldview, so they never thought they would have had to explain this to people like us 250 years later, 300 years later.
00:39:19.940That would never have dawned on them, Jack.
00:39:39.220He's literally the anti-worship, the anti-religion.
00:39:42.360So you would never have sat down at a table with these guys and had this debate because they would have looked at you like you're the dumbest person on planet Earth.
00:39:50.740It clearly is not what they were trying to accomplish.
00:39:53.840It was very much – I mean think about how our country was founded, the people who came here.
00:39:59.340First, of course, you had congregationalists who were Puritans first, and they were – there was strife in the old world between the new church, the Anglican church, Protestantism to protest.
00:40:09.760By the way, my – I said this on Thanksgiving, by the way, and I got in a little bit of trouble, but I pointed out.
00:40:14.880I was like, look, I know the pilgrims, the Puritans, right?
00:40:18.880These were the guys – these were the guys that even the British were like, whoa, you guys are a little too uptight, all right?
00:40:25.540Even the British were like, you're too uptight, get out of the island, like we can't deal with this.
00:40:30.420So yes, they are known for being a little bit strict when it comes to the application, a little bit literal when it comes to the application of Old Testament procedure.
00:40:42.060So it's – again, the idea was, right, the idea was that the federal government would not pick and choose among these different religions the way that the – which essentially was the federal government of England had instituted the Church of England as the official church of the land.
00:41:11.180Yeah, so they were afraid that, you know, Virginia could consolidate power against the Congregationalists up north or, you know, you could really pun it.
00:41:20.140You know, you could lay the hammer down on Quakers who won't fight back.
00:41:23.720I mean, this is what they were – that's what they were concerned about.
00:42:16.580I want you also, by the way, to call that Iowa Republican, that state representative, who, by the way, is also a pastor, who says that we should have this up.
00:42:24.820And it's the blessing of our freedom that it should be up there.
00:42:27.340Now, you can find your legislature if you are in Iowa.
00:42:29.960And then, of course, also call the governor's office.
00:42:41.360Rich, you were mentioning something before about how they call us the new right.
00:42:47.840And the new right label is sort of this way to describe your Trump wing, your MAGA wing, America First wing, as opposed to your old right, your Con Inc. establishment, GOP establishment.
00:43:01.100And nobody wants to be branded the old something.
00:43:05.640But I think there's maybe another term we could start using.
00:43:09.080I kind of feel like, kind of feel, because to your point, that there is a huge tradition that we are trying to bring back.
00:43:16.640We're trying to bring back here the secret history of the Christian tradition in this country, the secret history of how our governments used to operate before all these changes were made, really, in the 1960s.
00:44:40.300Let me ask you about this because Fox News and Lawrence had a great point on Fox and Friends this morning, which I happened to catch, thanks to Carly Bonet and the great Midnight Rider and the work she does there.
00:44:50.620He said that it seems like it seems like this Nikki Haley push that she's getting right now is kind of that last gasp of the of the of the Khan Inc., the GOP establishment to try to get someone in there.
00:45:05.360And then Steve said earlier on War Room that he thinks it's almost like they want they don't think she can win.
00:45:11.700Right. And maybe you can walk us through that, but they don't think she can win.
00:45:14.360I don't think she can win, but maybe she can win enough that she gets installed as the vice president on the ticket, which I'll tell you right now.
00:45:22.120I will not stop making sure she is never within a thousand yards of that ticket.
00:45:29.820She will never be on the Trump ticket.
00:45:31.720And they want her to be like the chancellor of the White House.
00:45:35.920And Trump is that, you know, goes off and is the cheerleader and all.
00:45:45.540And as I'm sure Steve knows, Kevin McCarthy has been telling everybody who will listen that he thinks that Donald Trump should pick Nikki Haley.
00:45:53.620I'm just going to say this and some people are going to gasp.
00:45:56.380But, you know, that's a great idea if you want to be assassinated.
00:46:15.380And I think that there would be a bunch of true Trumpers who would feel ultimately betrayed if he ever picked Nikki Haley as his running mate.
00:46:24.040But that's what the administrative state wants Donald Trump to do.
00:46:27.580And in this very difficult point in our history, this very unstable place that we're in politically right now, don't put anything past these people, Jack.
00:46:37.940If they can't incarcerate him, if they can't remove him in some way, shape or form, you know, then I'm really concerned about the direction that they will choose to take.
00:46:47.220But and so that she becomes so that she becomes president.
00:46:51.580And I've been saying all week here on the program that it feel and I went on with Alex Jones and said this as well, that it really feels like they're trying to get someone to go Lee Harvey Oswald again.
00:47:00.240They're trying to get someone to go up there, climb up and start taking pot shots at this guy.
00:47:05.080And now all of a sudden, you're right.
00:47:06.680They've got someone waiting in the wings.