Human Events Daily with Jack Posobiec - December 18, 2023


EPISODE 628: LIVE FROM AMFEST WITH LIBBY EMMONS AND EVA VLAARDINGERBROEK


Episode Stats

Length

49 minutes

Words per Minute

197.40439

Word Count

9,750

Sentence Count

816

Misogynist Sentences

20

Hate Speech Sentences

22


Summary

Join Jack and Ava as they discuss the European Union s attempt to censor Elon Musk and his company, Tesla, and the impact it has on the free speech rights of others. They are joined by special guest Ashley St. Clair to discuss this and much more.


Transcript

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00:00:30.000 This is what happens when the fourth turning meets fifth generation warfare.
00:00:41.240 A commentator, international social media sensation, and former Navy intelligence veteran.
00:00:47.920 This is Human Events with your host, Jack Poso.
00:00:50.680 Deliver us from evil.
00:00:54.340 Hi, everybody.
00:00:56.700 Welcome to America's Voice.
00:00:58.940 We are here right now, live at M-Fest.
00:01:02.800 And you are missing out today on Jack Poso.
00:01:06.520 We are stepping in for him.
00:01:09.440 Ava and I are filling in for Jack Posobiec with Human Events Daily.
00:01:12.940 We are glad to bring you this live from Turning Point USA here in beautiful Phoenix.
00:01:18.540 We have a great crowd of people here today.
00:01:20.700 Hi, everybody.
00:01:21.500 It's great to be here with you guys.
00:01:23.000 Thank you for coming.
00:01:24.060 It's terrific.
00:01:25.180 And we have a great show for you today as well.
00:01:27.660 Do you want to bring in our first guest?
00:01:29.860 Absolutely.
00:01:30.760 So we have a subject that is very close to all of our hearts, you know, free speech.
00:01:36.260 And of course, the European Union is trying to ruin our party.
00:01:40.300 They are coming after X.
00:01:41.840 They are coming after Elon Musk.
00:01:43.200 And I have the ex-it girl in the house today, Ashley St. Clair.
00:01:48.920 Come on in.
00:01:51.920 Hey, Ashley.
00:01:52.900 Hello, hello.
00:01:53.120 Great to have you here.
00:01:54.300 I'm so lucky to be between you two beautiful ladies here.
00:01:57.360 Look at that.
00:01:57.800 So why don't you give us a breakdown, Ava, of what's exactly going on in the EU with the,
00:02:03.380 what is it, on behalf of the, it's the Digital Services Act.
00:02:06.820 That's right.
00:02:07.440 And the EU is going to sue Elon Musk over this.
00:02:09.800 So break it down.
00:02:10.720 Okay.
00:02:11.180 So the European Union has a Digital Service Act, which is basically a censorship act that
00:02:17.760 is trying to, I think, target Elon Musk and X specifically because they are terrified,
00:02:24.220 obviously, of the fact that we are now able to speak the truth about them.
00:02:27.220 And Jerry Bouton, he is the commissioner for the internal market in the European Union,
00:02:32.600 wants to become famous by being Elon's number one enemy.
00:02:36.920 And now they are going forward with formal infringement procedures.
00:02:40.780 And they're saying that X has basically violated a lot of these parts of the Digital Service Act.
00:02:48.160 And I want to talk to you about that, Ashley, because you are amazing on X.
00:02:53.500 Everybody knows you there.
00:02:54.660 This platform is a platform that we both use and love.
00:02:58.320 And I want to hear your thoughts about this.
00:02:59.880 Like, what's going on here?
00:03:00.880 This is the deliberate targeting of Elon Musk and anybody who dares to say that free speech
00:03:06.280 is a human right.
00:03:07.380 They're going after him because they don't want their ideas derided.
00:03:11.760 Forgive me if I'm wrong, but I don't remember them going after Meta, Meta platforms,
00:03:16.020 who are responsible for, some studies say, 80% of the online child exploitation cases,
00:03:22.100 Meta is cited as a source for these child exploitation.
00:03:25.120 But they would rather go after Elon Musk and X for the grave sin of daring to allow people
00:03:29.960 to speak freely.
00:03:31.020 And that's exactly what this is about because they loathe free speech.
00:03:34.800 And the reason they loathe free speech is because they don't want people to have the
00:03:38.600 freedom to dissect and deride their ideas because censorship is antithetical to discourse.
00:03:44.120 Right.
00:03:44.800 And so one of the things that Cherry Breton or the EU is now saying X is guilty of is,
00:03:49.480 of course, the famous word disinformation.
00:03:52.880 Don't forget misinformation.
00:03:54.200 That's a big one, too.
00:03:54.920 Of course.
00:03:55.880 So can you tell us about that?
00:03:58.100 Is it true that every time these people talk about disinformation, it is just something
00:04:01.840 that they don't like to hear?
00:04:03.020 That's absolutely true.
00:04:03.640 What is it that they mean when they say misinformation?
00:04:06.060 I think that's so important to understand.
00:04:07.600 It's just like when they say hate speech, right?
00:04:09.760 It's so subjective.
00:04:11.260 Disinformation is subjective based on whoever's deciding at that time what's disinformation,
00:04:16.880 what's hate speech.
00:04:17.760 They use these terms to have this vague, overwhelming blanket that they can use censorship.
00:04:23.860 And this is why I've always been a free speech absolutist.
00:04:26.600 It appears that Elon Musk appears to be that way on X because we have to have this.
00:04:30.900 I've noticed there's more radicalism when you do participate in censorship because then
00:04:36.240 these bad ideas go to the dark corners of the internet where they're not challenged and
00:04:40.320 they fester and they corrupt society.
00:04:43.120 Right.
00:04:43.340 And it's not just like dark ideas, right?
00:04:45.640 This whole term misinformation, disinformation, all of it.
00:04:48.720 I remember this was right after Elon had acquired Twitter, but, you know, all of the headquarters
00:04:53.720 and still the European headquarters of Twitter, I think, are filled with people who are trying
00:04:59.320 to obscure and subvert all of his efforts.
00:05:03.020 I got banned off of Twitter for talking about the sudden adult death syndrome.
00:05:09.340 Do you guys remember that?
00:05:10.400 The sudden adult death syndrome.
00:05:11.920 Why don't you fill us in on that?
00:05:13.260 What's the sudden adult death syndrome?
00:05:15.040 Oh, man.
00:05:15.360 This was like this was back in 2022 when, you know, we were starting to see a lot of people
00:05:20.180 dying suddenly and anybody who said, well, maybe this has something to do with the fact
00:05:25.720 that we have a, you know, a worldwide rollout of the experimental vaccine and maybe we should
00:05:30.660 ask some questions about that.
00:05:32.280 No, no.
00:05:32.580 The media said, no, guys, it's a sudden adult death syndrome.
00:05:36.840 It was the largest joke in the world.
00:05:38.540 And I posted a tweet about it.
00:05:40.400 And then that got me banned, permanently suspended from Twitter.
00:05:43.820 Is this one of the kinds of things that the EU is seeking to get Elon Musk to prevent
00:05:49.320 being discussed on X?
00:05:51.240 I think so.
00:05:52.060 That's what I mean.
00:05:52.820 So it's not just about, you know, getting really controversial subjects to be monitored.
00:05:58.460 You know, I think we have to completely step away from the fact that these people do not
00:06:03.160 have good intentions, right?
00:06:05.460 They cloak it in nice words.
00:06:07.520 They say, oh, we all have to abide by the law.
00:06:10.180 You know, we won't want dangerous information out there.
00:06:13.080 But it's all a lie.
00:06:14.380 It's all for them to control the narrative so that we can't speak out about the
00:06:19.240 terrible policies that these people push.
00:06:21.440 Because mind you, Cherry Baton is somebody who no one ever voted for.
00:06:28.160 In the hood, I rolled with bloods.
00:06:30.560 And them boys had a saying.
00:06:32.740 You can't be listening to all that slappy, whack, trimatazolitzabam ship, nippy-bam-bam,
00:06:37.940 like Human Events with Jack Posobiec.
00:06:40.180 Hi, everybody.
00:06:47.560 Well, there we are again.
00:06:49.020 We're back.
00:06:50.100 As we said, you know, we're stepping in for Jack here.
00:06:52.820 Women never know when to stop talking.
00:06:54.140 We completely missed our cue.
00:06:55.840 But we're back.
00:06:56.660 And we are continuing our conversation about the EU's totalitarian crackdown on free speech
00:07:03.260 and their efforts to obstruct every single move that one brave man in this world.
00:07:08.240 And I just want to say God bless Elon Musk for his efforts in protecting free speech.
00:07:12.900 They're trying to ruin our party.
00:07:15.020 Libby, what can we do?
00:07:15.920 Yeah, so Ashley, we were just talking about how this is going down in Europe.
00:07:19.440 And I'm really interested to talk about the parallels that we're seeing in the U.S.
00:07:23.360 We're seeing that, you know, people are coming after Elon Musk here, elected officials.
00:07:27.540 What's that all about?
00:07:28.600 And what do you think is going to happen?
00:07:30.160 What's the fallout going to be?
00:07:30.920 I'm excited.
00:07:31.900 You know, there's so many people talking about how bad this advertiser boycott is.
00:07:35.680 But my boss, Seth Dillon, from the Babylon Bee, was on stage yesterday.
00:07:39.840 And he said, I don't think anybody realizes how important it is
00:07:42.660 that someone told Disney and their mountains of money that they don't want it.
00:07:47.340 Right.
00:07:47.720 That is amazing.
00:07:48.800 And I think we should be doing everything we can to support X and Elon Musk
00:07:52.700 because he is the most important voice for free speech in this country right now and in the world.
00:07:57.660 Right.
00:07:57.880 He just went over to Italy.
00:07:59.080 He's a good friend of Europe.
00:07:59.860 He goes over there and speaks about these issues as well.
00:08:02.620 We need to support this platform because it is the last shot for free speech that we have in this country and in the world, frankly.
00:08:10.960 That is correct because all of these other platforms are obviously not going to save us.
00:08:14.980 We were just talking about that they're not coming after Instagram.
00:08:17.780 They're not coming after Google.
00:08:19.340 They're not coming after, well, Meta is the same.
00:08:21.240 You know, it's all owned by the same people who have the same political agenda.
00:08:25.260 And X is the only platform where people like us are free to discuss any idea.
00:08:31.180 Well, let's be clear.
00:08:32.000 The EU and all of these advertisers boycotting X, you are hypocrites.
00:08:36.240 You are hypocrites because your ads are showing next to child exploitation material on Meta and you're doing nothing.
00:08:42.400 You're hypocrites.
00:08:43.260 You don't really care.
00:08:44.200 You tell them, girl.
00:08:44.780 So, what can people who are here at this great conference do to fight back against censorship?
00:08:51.700 Because it's so pervasive.
00:08:53.060 It's the manipulation of language.
00:08:54.700 It's the suppression of ideas.
00:08:56.220 It's the suppression of news stories that go against the narrative.
00:08:59.020 And it's the suppression of new concepts.
00:09:01.000 How can we push back against that?
00:09:02.860 You need to understand that freedom has a high cost and you need to be willing to pay it.
00:09:08.420 You need to speak up and you need to speak up loudly.
00:09:11.300 You need to support the people who are supporting free speech.
00:09:13.720 You need to support the platforms that are supporting free speech like X and Elon Musk.
00:09:18.180 And we all need to be brave because bad things happen when good men do nothing.
00:09:22.960 Yeah, exactly.
00:09:23.780 I mean, get X Premium.
00:09:25.280 Get on there.
00:09:26.040 You know, it's worth the money.
00:09:27.220 It's a great platform.
00:09:28.580 You get to engage with all sorts of people that you otherwise would never engage with.
00:09:32.260 And it's a small price to pay to keep free speech alive, right?
00:09:36.740 And to stand behind somebody who's a lot of skid in the game and who's making a lot of sacrifices to keep this possible for us.
00:09:43.660 So I know that you are.
00:09:45.080 I mean, I called you the X-It girl.
00:09:47.260 I stand by that.
00:09:48.420 She's amazing.
00:09:48.980 If you don't follow Ashley yet, what are you doing?
00:09:51.880 She's really the X-It girl here, Ava.
00:09:54.280 She's a rising star.
00:09:55.360 You guys all have to watch her.
00:09:56.820 Big things.
00:09:57.700 Thank you, Ashley.
00:09:58.700 Well, thank you for coming on to talk to us about this subject.
00:10:02.440 I mean, we're all going to continue on X.
00:10:04.140 So, like I said, go and follow us.
00:10:05.620 Are you on X yourself, Libby?
00:10:07.280 I am sure on X, as are all of us.
00:10:09.960 I'm actually on all the social media platforms.
00:10:12.100 And I've recently been...
00:10:13.220 I know this is really silly, but I've recently been on Threads, which is like the meta version of Twitter.
00:10:18.340 Oh, do you want to tell us about that?
00:10:19.520 And do you want to know what's funny about it?
00:10:20.980 It's like a time capsule to 2020 Twitter.
00:10:24.280 You have, like, Taylor Lorenz complaining about COVID and how nobody's wearing masks.
00:10:29.360 No, you're kidding.
00:10:30.180 Complaining about this exact same thing.
00:10:32.060 You have people running, like, big posts that are just like trans women are women.
00:10:36.440 There's all this stuff about how white people are the devil.
00:10:39.400 It's hysterical.
00:10:40.780 It's like you just look at this and you're like, I'm so glad that I'm on Twitter.
00:10:44.080 You know what you should do?
00:10:45.080 You should go and, like, make screenshots of the most ridiculous things that you see there.
00:10:49.200 And make it a series on X so we can make fun of them.
00:10:53.180 Do, like, libs of TikTok, but, like, friends.
00:10:54.980 Yes, right.
00:10:55.780 Exactly.
00:10:56.740 Should she do that, ladies and gentlemen?
00:10:58.280 Yeah.
00:10:58.600 I love that.
00:10:59.460 I've been, like, following through it.
00:11:01.020 And, like, sometimes I'll reply and I'll be like, no, you're just a man.
00:11:04.520 Like, I don't.
00:11:05.420 Excuse me.
00:11:05.920 You're a man.
00:11:06.640 I can see your five o'clock shadow.
00:11:07.180 I got a strike within 12 hours of being on threads and then I deleted it.
00:11:10.700 You were on there at the same time.
00:11:11.540 I deleted it.
00:11:12.240 The thing, too, about that platform that I think people forget is that back after January 6th,
00:11:17.320 do you remember when everybody started going after Parler?
00:11:20.700 Remember Parler?
00:11:21.580 Yes.
00:11:21.600 Got banned from the App Store.
00:11:22.260 Everyone, it got banned from the App Store.
00:11:24.360 It got kicked off of, like, Amazon servers.
00:11:27.020 It got totally devastated and demolished.
00:11:28.800 And everybody was saying that the reason was because January 6th, that protest was organized
00:11:34.400 on Parler.
00:11:35.660 Well, lo and behold, it was all on Facebook Messenger.
00:11:39.000 That's where everything, that's where people were talking and organizing their stuff, which
00:11:43.000 makes total sense.
00:11:43.880 But Mark Zuckerberg was never called into Congress to talk about that.
00:11:47.920 He was called in to talk about other stuff, but not that.
00:11:49.920 Yeah, talking about that, didn't the White House or even Joe Biden come forward saying a few
00:11:55.040 things about Elon Musk and, like, looking into him and things?
00:11:57.780 Right.
00:11:58.020 And there's, yeah, the SEC and the FCC.
00:12:00.440 Yes, he's being investigated.
00:12:01.760 The entire federal government is investigating Elon Musk over stupid stuff, including the
00:12:06.200 one, who's investigating him over the thing where it's, like...
00:12:08.800 The charred blue crabs?
00:12:10.340 No.
00:12:10.560 The fish and wildlife?
00:12:12.000 No, the one where he's not hiring enough immigrants.
00:12:15.340 Oh, my goodness.
00:12:16.280 To run, like, the security on his tech platform.
00:12:17.840 But you see, like, we're making fun of this because it's, like, it's funny to us how ridiculous
00:12:21.120 these people are.
00:12:21.860 But if you think about it seriously, again, you know, you have the U.S. government officially
00:12:27.300 launching, like, an investigation into the person of Elon Musk.
00:12:30.340 We have the EU trying to ruin this man's life.
00:12:33.560 And all because, let's face it, he and his platform is the biggest threat to their power
00:12:40.420 right now.
00:12:42.080 It's because they're...
00:12:43.080 I think that, I think also one thing that we see with his having stood up for free speech
00:12:47.040 is it's the thing that happens when someone stands up and says no.
00:12:51.280 When someone stands up and says, I am going to look at reality, I'm not going to listen
00:12:54.720 to your perception of it.
00:12:55.820 And it gives everyone else courage.
00:12:58.320 So, as soon as you have someone stand up and fight for all of us, we're all able to stand
00:13:03.460 up and say, oh, you know what?
00:13:04.740 I'm going to do that, too.
00:13:05.900 I'm not going to be cowed, either.
00:13:07.680 And it gives us courage to stand up and speak out in our personal lives, in our professional
00:13:11.440 lives, not just online.
00:13:13.420 And I think that's such a huge, you know, huge thing.
00:13:15.600 Courage is absolutely contagious.
00:13:17.560 And so, absolutely be bold, like I said earlier.
00:13:20.500 And you know what?
00:13:21.020 If you're in the EU, if you're in America, and you can't afford to feed your families,
00:13:24.580 you can't afford your rent, don't worry, because the government's going after Elon Musk.
00:13:28.820 Everything will be okay soon.
00:13:29.900 It's going to be safe.
00:13:30.900 We're all going to be safe from misinformation.
00:13:32.200 You have a border crisis?
00:13:33.380 You think you might want to do something about it?
00:13:34.720 No, let's go after Elon Musk.
00:13:36.300 You know, it's...
00:13:37.020 Yeah, it's...
00:13:37.600 Do you think that the federal government, the Biden administration, the deep state,
00:13:43.500 do you think that they're going to be able to pull the same shenanigans in 2024 with regard
00:13:47.760 to suppression of ideas, concepts, reality, as they did in 2020?
00:13:52.500 Do you think they're going to be able to pull that?
00:13:53.940 No, not with X.
00:13:55.120 You don't think so?
00:13:56.020 Absolutely not with X.
00:13:57.140 They're going to try.
00:13:57.600 They're going to try, but they can't do it with X.
00:13:59.460 What are going to be some of the hallmarks that we might see coming out of the administration
00:14:03.580 and the deep state of how they're going to try and...
00:14:06.080 I think it's already...
00:14:07.580 We're already seeing X's ability.
00:14:09.260 You're able to dismantle narratives that they push out in real time.
00:14:13.140 Like, for example, with the infamous tape on the Senate floor.
00:14:17.180 Oh, that was wild.
00:14:19.060 We saw that, right, unfortunately?
00:14:21.860 We all saw exactly what happened.
00:14:23.920 And then two days later, after everybody gets this news on X, NBC puts out a headline that
00:14:28.480 says, allegedly, saying it allegedly happened, allegedly, even though we all saw this with
00:14:33.500 our own eyes on X.
00:14:34.760 And that would not have happened a few years ago.
00:14:37.180 And there's been so many examples of this, of narratives and stories we would not have
00:14:41.260 gotten without X and without no censorship, without the freedom that we have right now
00:14:46.420 on X.
00:14:47.020 So I'm very optimistic.
00:14:48.420 And this is why it is so important that we absolutely recognize and reject all of this
00:14:54.160 BS about disinformation and misinformation.
00:14:57.280 Any time a government official or a supranational organization like the European Union or one
00:15:03.460 of the other three-letter organizations that we have comes out and says anything about misinformation
00:15:08.560 or disinformation, you have to think to yourself, oh, this just equals, this is a narrative that
00:15:13.540 I don't like.
00:15:14.300 This is a dissenting opinion that goes against what I want you to believe.
00:15:18.360 And that is something that we have to see and reject fully.
00:15:21.420 Otherwise, you know, if we give them an inch, they're going to take away Twitter.
00:15:24.820 We have to stop supporting these other organizations, these companies, though, that are supporting
00:15:29.620 this.
00:15:29.960 Because what we saw with the Twitter files that Elon released, as soon as he took over
00:15:33.660 Twitter, he released the Twitter files.
00:15:35.100 And what did that show?
00:15:36.220 It showed that the FBI and these other three-letter agencies used Twitter to do what they constitutionally
00:15:41.880 could not.
00:15:42.600 And that was silence American citizens.
00:15:44.240 And that's still happening with these other organizations like Meta, like all these other
00:15:48.620 social media platforms.
00:15:49.620 That's still happening.
00:15:50.880 So we really need to be ethical consumers in where we're spending our money, where we're
00:15:55.280 spending our attention, because attention is the most valuable currency now.
00:15:58.720 And we have to take our attention away from these people who are in bed with these three-letter
00:16:02.820 agencies to screw over the American people.
00:16:05.880 I think you're, yeah, I think you're exactly right.
00:16:07.900 So we all have to get on X.
00:16:09.000 Well, some people might be watching us right now live from X.
00:16:11.940 So if you are on there, we're happy that you're watching us.
00:16:14.760 We're very grateful.
00:16:15.680 We're happy that you're joining us here live at MFest today.
00:16:18.780 And Ashley, it was wonderful speaking to you.
00:16:21.300 Thank you very much.
00:16:22.020 Like I said, go and follow Ashley if you don't already.
00:16:24.700 I'm now trying to not forget that we are going to a break in a little bit.
00:16:28.540 Well, we still have two minutes.
00:16:29.060 We still have two minutes left.
00:16:30.580 I know.
00:16:31.220 So before-
00:16:32.260 I will say that when I was a kid, there was this phrase that the Democratic left used,
00:16:37.000 and it was question authority.
00:16:38.640 Right.
00:16:38.760 And the idea was that whoever was telling you what to do, you should take a look at that
00:16:42.160 and interrogate why they're telling you to do that.
00:16:44.200 You should question it.
00:16:45.320 And I think that the Democratic left has forgotten that so fully over the past decade or so, really
00:16:51.160 given that up, really given up their ability to question power.
00:16:55.260 And all they've been doing is submitting to it.
00:16:57.360 And what I've loved to see in America is the conservatives taking back some of these ideas,
00:17:03.420 taking back the right to question authority, taking back the Bill of Rights, you know, demanding
00:17:08.360 that these are our rights.
00:17:10.180 You have Joe Biden.
00:17:11.160 Sometimes he'll say no right is absolute.
00:17:13.420 And it's just like, you are incorrect, man.
00:17:15.620 Come on.
00:17:16.380 Right.
00:17:16.760 And I think that your founding fathers were very clear about that.
00:17:19.840 Here in America, you have inalienable rights that were endowed upon you by your creator.
00:17:23.920 So your rights are your rights.
00:17:25.040 Not because the government says so, ladies and gentlemen, but because God says so.
00:17:29.080 Right.
00:17:29.240 That's exactly right.
00:17:30.020 And Joe Biden is not God.
00:17:31.540 And we all know it.
00:17:32.500 We all know it.
00:17:33.740 So before we go to the break, we are going to come right back with you in a little bit.
00:17:38.180 We're going to talk about a few more European issues.
00:17:40.700 I want to talk to you guys about what's going on in Germany.
00:17:42.600 The German farmers are rising up, just like the Dutch farmers have.
00:17:47.300 And we're going to do a little recap of that, see what the global war on farming is about.
00:17:51.640 So, and Libby, what else are we going to discuss later?
00:17:54.580 Yeah, so we'll be back in just a couple of minutes with that.
00:17:56.860 And we have a lot of great stuff and great content to talk to you about today.
00:18:00.460 So thanks for tuning in.
00:18:02.460 Thanks for letting us bend your ear today.
00:18:04.240 It is absolutely a pleasure.
00:18:05.760 I mean, this European girl feels right at home here at MFEST.
00:18:09.220 Oh, that's so exciting.
00:18:09.440 It is a joy to talk to all of you guys.
00:18:12.240 And to everyone here, thank you so very much for coming to MFEST.
00:18:16.440 It is an absolute honor of mine to be here.
00:18:18.680 It's been really a lot of fun.
00:18:19.420 All right.
00:18:20.380 Well, we are not missing our cue this time.
00:18:22.760 See you guys in a little bit.
00:18:28.040 You talk about influences.
00:18:29.780 These are influences.
00:18:31.720 And they're friends of mine.
00:18:34.040 Jack Posobiec.
00:18:35.600 Where's Jack?
00:18:36.480 Jack.
00:18:37.480 He's done a great job.
00:18:40.080 I've never done this at all.
00:18:41.280 And we are back with Human Events Daily.
00:18:45.120 Ava and I are filling in here for Jack Posobiec, live from Turning Point, USA, in beautiful Phoenix, Arizona.
00:18:52.500 And we have a great story for you now that Ava was telling me about before we went on air.
00:18:57.300 Apparently there's been a lot of protests in Germany from farmers.
00:19:00.120 And this is something that you are familiar with.
00:19:03.520 You covered this when it was happening in the Netherlands as well, revolts from farmers.
00:19:07.900 What's going on in the EU with so many of these farmers who are pushing back and protesting?
00:19:15.140 Right.
00:19:15.460 So let me give you a little bit of a recap on the situation in my home country.
00:19:20.320 So I'm from the Netherlands.
00:19:21.600 And as some of our viewers might know, our government had the amazing idea to go and commit a little bit of a land grab, so to say.
00:19:30.340 They said a few years ago that we have a so-called nitrogen crisis.
00:19:34.940 Right.
00:19:35.160 I heard about this was going on in Canada too with fertilizer.
00:19:38.280 Yes.
00:19:38.660 Yes.
00:19:38.860 So you're ahead of me.
00:19:39.740 So this started out in the Netherlands, right?
00:19:41.580 And I saw this happening and I saw our government say, hey, we have a nitrogen crisis and the farmers need to go.
00:19:47.860 You guys are at fault here because apparently cows, just like humans, burp and fart and that causes climate change.
00:19:55.300 That was the narrative.
00:19:56.580 And conveniently, the state said, well, you know, I have a perfect solution for this.
00:20:01.120 You are now obligated to sell your land to me.
00:20:03.520 And 30% of the cattle farms in the Netherlands had to go under their new nitrogen policy.
00:20:09.700 So wait a minute.
00:20:10.060 The government forced farmers to sell their land to the government?
00:20:13.600 Well, that was exactly the plan.
00:20:15.280 And thank goodness the Dutch farmers weren't having it.
00:20:17.740 And we had massive protests these past few years.
00:20:20.720 And I remember saying about a year and a half ago, guys, I know that the Netherlands is a tiny country.
00:20:26.360 You might be thinking, why do we care?
00:20:28.360 But we were the second largest exporter of agricultural products in the world.
00:20:32.040 So, you know, if you care a little bit about your food supply, I think you should care.
00:20:35.440 But a more important point, as I said, this is not just a Dutch issue.
00:20:40.260 The attack on farming, the war on farming is a global one because it is part of the globalist agenda.
00:20:46.260 It's part of the agenda of control.
00:20:48.380 And what is a better way to control the people than to control the food?
00:20:53.180 To control what we eat.
00:20:54.540 The communists knew that darn well.
00:20:56.380 Well, they sure did.
00:20:57.000 So how is this now unfolding in Germany?
00:21:00.460 Right.
00:21:00.840 So the Germans, well, our neighboring country, those are, let me tell you, just like us, they're not people, they're not the French.
00:21:06.800 You know, we don't like to go out and riot.
00:21:08.540 So when something...
00:21:09.500 They're not the French.
00:21:10.420 They're not the French.
00:21:11.280 And we don't like to go out to riot.
00:21:12.580 We don't like to go on strikes.
00:21:13.660 We don't like to protest.
00:21:14.500 So when something happens in the Netherlands or in Germany, you have to stay very focused and think, oh, what's going on here?
00:21:20.680 So now the Dutch farmers have protested last year and today the German farmers have gone out in large numbers to Berlin demanding the stoplight government.
00:21:32.400 That's what they're called.
00:21:33.560 It's the red, green and the yellow parties.
00:21:37.460 So it's a left-wing government essentially to be, to step down.
00:21:41.600 They're demanding the government step down over this.
00:21:44.400 Yes, because the German government is now cutting all sorts of tax benefits for the farmers, which are absolutely essential for them in order to do their work.
00:21:52.780 In order to feed the population.
00:21:54.540 Exactly.
00:21:55.280 It's not just, you know, we're not talking about people who want to make an extra buck.
00:21:58.820 I mean, everyone who knows a farmer knows that that is not, you know, a profession in which...
00:22:03.280 Farming is not really a high-profit industry.
00:22:05.240 No, it's a very honorable job.
00:22:07.140 It is usually the people in farming are people who have done it for centuries.
00:22:10.820 It's family businesses, usually also Christian people who have traditional values, who do something for their community, for their country, for the world.
00:22:21.060 You know, they provide us with our daily meal, quite literally.
00:22:24.440 And so now all of these German farmers have gone out on their tractors and it always, almost makes me emotional to see this type of footage because it reminds me of our protests.
00:22:35.040 Do we have that?
00:22:35.640 Do we have that footage?
00:22:36.320 Yes, we have a little bit of footage from the protests right now.
00:22:40.560 I don't know if we can see it.
00:22:41.680 See, yeah, there we go.
00:22:42.460 Oh, there it is.
00:22:43.100 There we go.
00:22:43.300 We have the tractors out in Berlin right now.
00:22:46.280 I saw another clip where they were spraying some manure on the roads.
00:22:51.480 And I think that that type of protests, like, yeah, show them who's boss.
00:22:54.540 You know, they're coming after your private property.
00:22:56.540 They're coming after what you've worked for your entire life.
00:23:00.180 And they're coming after the people who are providing us for their food.
00:23:03.520 They're coming after our food.
00:23:05.040 Yes.
00:23:05.380 Really.
00:23:05.860 And this is not just something that is going on in Germany.
00:23:09.080 It's not just something that hit in the Netherlands.
00:23:10.760 It's actually something that the Biden administration is trying to push on Americans.
00:23:15.560 The Biden administration is trying to cut down American food supply as well, in addition to hiking grocery prices, which I know everyone's familiar with.
00:23:23.300 We recently saw John Kerry, who is Biden's climate guy.
00:23:28.360 He was out, what was it, in Dubai at the COP28?
00:23:31.300 Yes.
00:23:31.520 And he was making some statements as well.
00:23:34.360 Can we see that clip?
00:23:35.700 Quite shocking statements.
00:23:36.200 He was making some statements about that as well.
00:23:39.160 Agriculture contributes about 33% of all the emissions of the world, depending a little bit on how you count it, but it's anywhere from 26 to 33.
00:23:49.780 And we can't get to net zero.
00:23:53.300 We don't get this job done unless agriculture is front and center, is part of the solution.
00:24:00.080 Emissions from the food system alone are projected to cause another half a degree of warming by mid-century on the current course that we are today.
00:24:10.860 So we have to reduce emissions from the food system to keep the 1.5 degrees alive.
00:24:18.640 There you go.
00:24:19.700 Yeah.
00:24:20.140 So that's pretty wild.
00:24:21.260 John Kerry wants to cut back the food supply in the United States.
00:24:25.160 Yes.
00:24:25.560 I mean, apparently he doesn't care if people starve.
00:24:28.640 No.
00:24:29.040 You know, and that is something that I think people find very difficult to grasp.
00:24:32.560 It's like, why would the government do this?
00:24:34.320 Why would the government come after one of the sectors that feeds the world?
00:24:38.560 And why is it that the government wants to transform the world global food supply?
00:24:44.480 What is it that they're trying to do there?
00:24:46.160 Well, I saw today on X, I saw video of 3D printed plant-based meat saying that this is what's coming next.
00:24:53.900 We see all the cricket feed going into, you know, cheese puffs in Canadian snack foods.
00:24:59.820 Right.
00:25:00.020 We see all of this stuff going on.
00:25:01.540 Why is it that they are taking this top-down approach to trying to, like, basically re-engineer human agriculture and human lifestyle?
00:25:10.760 I think it is two things, right?
00:25:12.180 So, first of all, we just said it.
00:25:14.060 If you control the food, you control the people.
00:25:16.320 So, if people are hungry, if people are scared, they're very easy to control.
00:25:20.940 So, like I said, this man is saying 26 to 33 percent or something of the carbon emissions worldwide are caused by agriculture, and we can't reach net zero.
00:25:32.260 Net zero is, you know, net zero without doing this, without getting rid of, like, a large sector or a large part of the agricultural sector.
00:25:41.880 So, people are going to get hungry.
00:25:44.560 Yeah.
00:25:44.840 That is one.
00:25:45.520 And the other part, you already said it, they're trying to push bugs on us.
00:25:49.420 They're trying to push bail gates, fake synthetic meat, all of this stuff that isn't good for humans.
00:25:55.280 Right.
00:25:55.440 It's actually pretty unhealthy to eat all of this stuff all the time.
00:25:58.880 Very.
00:25:59.220 So, I feel like what the ultimate goal behind this is is just to weaken us.
00:26:04.060 So, what are they doing?
00:26:04.980 They're trying to make foods that are actually, you know, animal-based, that are protein-rich, that are good for the human body, that make you strong and make you grow.
00:26:13.720 That those foods are scarce and limited, right?
00:26:17.480 And so, if you take that out of the diet of, well, the Americans, but actually everywhere in the world, what do you create?
00:26:25.000 You know, people talk about the soy boys.
00:26:26.940 That's a joke.
00:26:27.360 But it's real.
00:26:28.120 It's real.
00:26:28.680 It's real.
00:26:29.040 You know, it's funny, too, because I was giving this some thought, and I used to be very interested in climate, and I had written about it, you know, when I was lefty and more liberal.
00:26:38.880 And the more I started to dig into it, even back then, the more I looked into it, the more I thought, there's really no evidence that this is super essential.
00:26:47.060 There's really no indication that we should destroy humanity in order to save the planet.
00:26:52.480 There's no point in saving the planet if we destroy humanity.
00:26:55.660 It's just not worthwhile.
00:26:58.260 But, like, you don't have to be a rocket scientist or even somebody who knows anything about climate change to see through this lie.
00:27:05.300 I mean, we just, you know, we perceive reality, if you look at the Dutch landscapes, you know, with the green grass, the meadows, the cows grazing, and our windmills, and they say that profession that we've had around for centuries on end is now the cause of a new so-called crisis like climate change, everybody knows in their gut that that's a lie.
00:27:29.500 And it's not just the food production, either.
00:27:31.320 It's also fossil fuels.
00:27:32.720 And we know, you know, if you look at the history of humanity and the history of energy consumption, fossil fuels raised people out of poverty globally in huge percentages.
00:27:43.440 There's the reason we have less poverty in the world is because of fossil fuels.
00:27:47.360 So they want to take away our fuels that have elevated people out of poverty.
00:27:51.060 They want to take away our plentiful food sources that, again, have prevented people from starving.
00:27:55.740 And they want to do this to meet their own ends, not actually to help humanity.
00:28:00.480 And when you look back at it, like I was recently looking at this play called Uncle Vanya written by Anton Chekhov from whenever ago, the 18-somethings.
00:28:08.180 And so I'm looking at it, and there's this one character, and he is just blasting the peasants for burning trees, for cutting down trees to use for their fuel source.
00:28:17.560 He's like, just pick up the peat off the ground.
00:28:20.120 And I was thinking about that, and I'm like, it is not recent that the elites of this world have been trying to enforce their ideas on, you know, the rest of us.
00:28:30.780 Right.
00:28:31.000 And try and get us to conform to what they want us to do, just in order to better their own lives.
00:28:36.020 Of course.
00:28:36.220 We've seen guys at the WEF talking about how, you know, the elites are going to continue to travel around the world.
00:28:42.080 And for those who can't afford to travel, they'll be able to sit on their couches and look at VR, and it'll be just like they're really there.
00:28:48.540 Oh, how generous of them.
00:28:49.580 Right, how generous.
00:28:51.020 They're going to use up all of the resources.
00:28:52.980 They're going to feed us bugs.
00:28:54.680 And all we're supposed to do is let them eat bugs.
00:28:56.420 I made a documentary with Tucker Carlson about this, and that was actually called Let Them Eat Bugs.
00:29:02.000 You know, it was this play with what Marie Antoinette said right before the French Revolution happened.
00:29:06.320 I don't have to tell you what happened during the French Revolution when she allegedly said, let them eat cake, right?
00:29:11.540 Oh, the peasants don't have money for bread.
00:29:13.560 Well, why don't we let them eat cake?
00:29:15.580 And now they're saying, let them eat bugs.
00:29:18.460 Yes.
00:29:19.060 Yeah.
00:29:19.220 And, you know, the thing is, I always like to quote Carl Jung when I talk about the nefarious intentions of our global elites.
00:29:26.880 He said, if someone's actions don't make sense to you, and you're like, why would someone do this?
00:29:33.080 You know, we have this question all the time.
00:29:34.340 Why would the government do this?
00:29:35.940 Look at the consequences and infer the motive.
00:29:39.580 So, if the consequences of their attack on farming is that people are going to be poor and hungry and starve,
00:29:48.380 then apparently their intent is that they want you to be poor, hungry, and starve.
00:29:53.440 I think that's so important.
00:29:54.420 That's such an important point.
00:29:55.460 Look at what it is that they are trying to do and understand that that is their intention.
00:30:00.500 We're going to be back in just a couple of minutes.
00:30:03.100 We have another guest coming up.
00:30:04.360 I think he's still around.
00:30:05.540 So, that's going to be very exciting.
00:30:06.540 Come on, Chris, come over for a little bit.
00:30:08.360 Let's show it to people who's filming.
00:30:10.420 We're going to talk about even more interesting things today.
00:30:14.100 So, thanks for sticking around.
00:30:16.820 Oh, Bill, Chris, you're too tall for the shot.
00:30:18.940 Look at that.
00:30:19.780 There we go.
00:30:20.300 This is good that you came on early.
00:30:21.640 We got to fix your shot.
00:30:22.880 Great.
00:30:23.300 So, it's great to have you here, Chris.
00:30:24.520 Right after the break, we're going to talk to you, Chris.
00:30:27.820 So, lovely.
00:30:28.040 And thanks for sticking around here at TPUSA.
00:30:31.800 I've been having a great time at this conference.
00:30:33.660 How about you?
00:30:34.280 So am I.
00:30:34.700 Are you?
00:30:38.420 You got it.
00:30:39.080 You need a mic.
00:30:39.480 Sorry.
00:30:39.740 Yeah, it's amazing.
00:30:40.640 So many great people, but so many young people.
00:30:42.840 I know.
00:30:43.520 Grassroots movements.
00:30:44.980 That's what we need to save this country, and it's going to start with the young people.
00:30:47.500 I'm 27 years old, but I feel old at this conference, which is a new one.
00:30:50.340 I can tell you that.
00:30:51.080 It's a new one.
00:30:51.680 Yes.
00:30:52.080 I will be right back.
00:30:52.840 We will be right back, people.
00:30:54.180 Stay tuned.
00:30:54.540 And we are back with Human Events Daily.
00:31:23.140 Ava and I are in for Jack Posobiec.
00:31:26.560 I'm Libby Edmonds with The Post Millennial, and we have Billboard Chris.
00:31:30.080 Chris Elston here is joining us.
00:31:32.480 He is an activist.
00:31:33.840 He speaks out against gender ideology all over the U.S. and Canada.
00:31:37.740 We're very glad that he could join us today.
00:31:40.600 So, Ava, why don't you get into it?
00:31:43.180 Yeah, Chris, I'm so happy to see you.
00:31:45.020 We keep running into each other everywhere.
00:31:46.480 I just saw you in Canada, and you are a hero, just for the mere fact that you speak the truth
00:31:51.220 about the fact that the girl is a girl and the boy is a boy, and that's that.
00:31:54.360 But you went pretty viral, I saw the other day on X again, uncovering a major story.
00:32:00.540 Could you tell our audience a little bit about what you found, who you spoke to, and what's
00:32:03.960 going on?
00:32:04.820 Yeah, just yesterday morning, I thought before I came here, I'd head out on the street for
00:32:09.080 some conversations.
00:32:09.780 I was outside for not even a minute, and I ran into a man named Adam Avina.
00:32:14.620 He's a dad from California.
00:32:17.000 And when his little boy was two years old, the mother decided that this boy was really
00:32:21.980 a girl.
00:32:23.340 And she bought him a pink dress.
00:32:25.340 The father objected to that.
00:32:28.000 He sent a bunch of...
00:32:28.660 Two years old.
00:32:29.680 Yeah.
00:32:30.600 All he ever did was send some messages, some text messages, objecting to this.
00:32:35.340 And because he's not in favor of transitioning his own son, he was given a temporary restraining
00:32:41.700 order where he wasn't allowed to speak to his wife or his son, his ex-wife.
00:32:45.760 Now he has a new five-year restraining order in place.
00:32:48.340 The boy is now five years old.
00:32:50.800 So he's not allowed to talk to his son.
00:32:53.300 So a father in the state of California refused to refer to his little boy as a girl.
00:32:59.640 That's right.
00:32:59.960 And the mother went and got a restraining order against him, not once, but now twice.
00:33:04.700 And he cannot see his son?
00:33:06.660 Yes, because the social workers in California consider it abuse not to affirm the delusion
00:33:12.300 that your child is the opposite sex.
00:33:14.280 Is this a law over there?
00:33:16.400 Like, I'm sorry, my European mind's blown right now.
00:33:19.320 I'm like, how could this possibly be?
00:33:21.100 Yeah, it is a law.
00:33:22.060 There is law in California.
00:33:23.880 A lot of it was brought by our favorite state senator, Senator Scott Wiener, who is
00:33:29.580 absolutely a menace to society.
00:33:32.740 And he has essentially changed the definition of abuse in California to additionally mean
00:33:39.420 refusing to gender transition your kid.
00:33:42.500 What were some of the reasons that this mother had for believing that the two-year-old boy was
00:33:47.800 actually a girl?
00:33:48.640 Of course, there are no reasons for that.
00:33:51.780 She wants her boy to be a girl.
00:33:54.100 This boy does not have gender dysphoria.
00:33:56.220 Two-year-olds don't have gender dysphoria.
00:33:57.600 This boy was still in diapers when she started putting him in a dress.
00:34:01.660 So, but the practice with the courts and everything is simply affirm the child.
00:34:06.340 The judge refers to the boy as a girl.
00:34:08.340 They had a gender assessment done on him before he was even four years old.
00:34:12.600 I don't know what...
00:34:13.200 That's insane.
00:34:13.220 Child abuse.
00:34:14.120 Yeah, that is insane.
00:34:15.520 This sounds like this mother is a monster.
00:34:17.960 Yes, and the judges go along with this.
00:34:19.980 Now, the first judge has recused himself for some reason.
00:34:22.820 There's a new judge who also isn't going along with this.
00:34:24.780 The new judge put a five-year restraining order in place.
00:34:27.480 So, he won't be able to talk to his son until, at a minimum, this child's 10 years old,
00:34:31.700 which is about the age they start kids on puberty blockers.
00:34:33.880 That's absolutely horrifying.
00:34:35.780 So, the father's name, Adam Navina, right?
00:34:37.620 Adam Vina.
00:34:38.340 Vina.
00:34:38.760 What is he going to do?
00:34:40.300 I mean, I guess that this man cannot just sit...
00:34:42.620 He's not going to sit around and watch his son be taken from him.
00:34:45.620 How can we help?
00:34:46.620 What is his story?
00:34:48.620 Is he going to take other legal actions?
00:34:50.860 What's the way forward?
00:34:51.900 So, there's a variety of ways people can help.
00:34:54.420 So, he does have a lawyer.
00:34:55.440 They're appealing the restraining order.
00:34:57.480 But what people in California need to do is they need to go to protectkidsca.com
00:35:02.920 because there are three ballot initiatives underway.
00:35:05.340 Oh, I was hearing about these ballot initiatives.
00:35:07.060 Yeah.
00:35:07.200 This is huge.
00:35:08.100 It's ca.com?
00:35:09.700 Yes.
00:35:10.000 This is huge news.
00:35:11.200 This will send an earthquake all across the nation
00:35:13.160 because there's no way California will ever stop doing this
00:35:15.940 with Gavin Newsom and these people in charge.
00:35:17.300 California has so many of these laws in place.
00:35:19.300 California is one of the states where if your kid runs away from home
00:35:23.100 and runs to California,
00:35:25.280 California will allow them to undergo gender transition,
00:35:28.600 you know, sex change stuff, puberty blockers, cross-sex hormones,
00:35:31.680 without ever notifying the parents in the state where the child has run away.
00:35:35.660 Your child could be missing, and in California they could be, you know,
00:35:39.740 being sex changed by the government.
00:35:41.620 That's right.
00:35:42.460 But we have three new ballot initiatives underway.
00:35:45.360 So, we need to get about 550,000 signatures,
00:35:47.880 and these three initiatives are this.
00:35:50.120 Stop child transition.
00:35:52.360 Stop lying to parents.
00:35:54.200 Schools right now are keeping secret from parents
00:35:56.120 that their own child has a new name and pronouns.
00:35:58.140 And get men out of women's sports.
00:36:00.080 So, when people go to vote for president next year,
00:36:02.160 these three initiatives should be on the ballot,
00:36:03.820 and Californians can write their own laws.
00:36:07.180 I hope they do.
00:36:08.120 I hope they do do that.
00:36:09.320 And, Chris, so you've been going out on the street.
00:36:12.420 You're called Billboard Chris
00:36:13.720 because you go out with wearing a billboard.
00:36:16.220 Basically, you're a walking billboard,
00:36:18.440 merely stating the truth that boys are boys and girls are girls
00:36:22.080 and that we shouldn't mess with the creation
00:36:24.000 and that it's child abuse to put these kids through puberty blockers, etc.
00:36:28.380 And the responses that you've been given out on the street
00:36:33.080 haven't been mild, so to say.
00:36:35.300 I remember that you got assaulted.
00:36:37.980 Is that right?
00:36:39.140 Oh, I've been assaulted more than 30 times.
00:36:40.800 I've had my arm broken by Antifa.
00:36:42.480 That was in Montreal, wasn't it?
00:36:43.540 That was in Montreal in 2021.
00:36:45.960 I was just assaulted in March in front of three dozen police officers,
00:36:48.680 and they did nothing.
00:36:50.520 It's right in front of them.
00:36:51.500 There was recently a big protest, too.
00:36:53.080 You were out with Chloe Cole, and some people staged a drag protest.
00:36:58.700 Yeah, Turning Point USA hosted us at Cal Poly in San Luis Obispo in California.
00:37:03.320 Three or 400 counter protesters came out.
00:37:05.480 They had a drag show, and this man, LARPing as a woman,
00:37:09.200 came over to Chloe Cole, who was given a double mastectomy when she was only 15,
00:37:14.280 and he shook his fake breasts in her face to taunt her.
00:37:17.320 That is so disturbing, and that's just so disturbing and cruel.
00:37:20.880 Chris, what would you say, what is the reason that you see the left
00:37:25.320 and any other suppressive ideology, I would say, really,
00:37:29.580 come after kids in particular?
00:37:31.340 What do you think is behind that?
00:37:33.700 Well, it's like any totalitarian ruler from the past.
00:37:36.660 Kids are the easiest to influence.
00:37:38.380 If they want to change the culture, they're not going to do it through me or through you.
00:37:41.580 They have to do it through our kids.
00:37:43.120 So kids are very impressionable, and parents need to realize
00:37:46.040 that what's going on in school anymore isn't just math, English, and science.
00:37:49.340 Because social-emotional learning is being taught to these kids,
00:37:53.060 which is essentially a values-replacement system.
00:37:55.800 And guess what?
00:37:56.380 You're probably not going to like the values they're replacing.
00:37:58.080 It is a values-replacement system.
00:37:59.880 I see this in my son's schools.
00:38:01.980 It's really disturbing to see what they're trying to push in.
00:38:05.680 Instead of teaching the kids skills, which grow into confidence,
00:38:09.620 they try and teach them confidence in just their own sort of innate characteristics.
00:38:15.180 You know what I mean?
00:38:15.800 It's very bizarre how they just warp language and warp education
00:38:19.800 to make these kids manageable, weird kids
00:38:24.480 who are eventually going to be eating bugs and 3D-printed meat.
00:38:27.460 So they're essentially like little tiny child soldiers to the regime, right?
00:38:31.740 Child soldiers to the illiberal regime.
00:38:34.440 Yeah, that's right.
00:38:35.020 That is crazy.
00:38:35.720 But Chris, tell me, why did you start doing this?
00:38:39.560 What brought you to the idea of going out, walking around like a walking billboard?
00:38:45.280 What was it that sparked that in you?
00:38:47.520 Well, I'm a dad, first and foremost.
00:38:49.160 That's my job.
00:38:49.860 I've got two girls.
00:38:50.560 They're 11 and 14.
00:38:51.820 I've been at this for more than three years now.
00:38:53.960 And really, I learned about puberty blockers.
00:38:55.540 And I said to myself, what are those?
00:38:57.560 And of course, they are exactly what they sound like.
00:38:59.700 We're blocking puberty in perfectly healthy children.
00:39:02.160 We're giving them the opposite sexist hormones.
00:39:03.880 They're doing surgeries on kids.
00:39:05.500 We cannot live in a society that is trying to change the sex of children.
00:39:08.860 And just to be clear, because I noticed that there are still people who think that
00:39:11.620 those puberty blockers are reversible.
00:39:13.540 That's a lie, right?
00:39:14.680 They are not.
00:39:15.640 Of course, it's a lie.
00:39:16.520 Time is not reversible.
00:39:18.080 If a girl goes on puberty blockers from 11 to 16, there's no time machine to take her
00:39:21.200 back to being 11 again.
00:39:22.520 Even the president of the World Professional Association for Transgender Health.
00:39:25.600 Who is trans.
00:39:26.600 Who is trans.
00:39:27.460 This admits that none of the boys who started on these drugs have ever been able to have
00:39:33.440 a sex life as an adult.
00:39:34.720 They've never been able to have an orgasm as an adult.
00:39:35.980 This is actually a really shocking thing.
00:39:37.460 This was Dr. Marcia Bowers, right?
00:39:39.880 Who came out with this and said that none of the patients that Dr. Bowers had ever had,
00:39:44.880 who were young boys, who went on puberty blockers and cross-sex hormones, were ever able to
00:39:49.460 have, you know, a natural sexual life after that.
00:39:54.240 And the solution that was proposed by Bowers was that they needed to do more research, not
00:40:00.580 to cut off the drugs.
00:40:02.220 But of course, the drugs are what should be cut off.
00:40:05.300 You know, kids should be taught to be happy with who they are, or at least not diverged into
00:40:10.520 some bizarre path that leads to desperation and horribleness.
00:40:14.400 And we call that progress.
00:40:16.160 It blows my mind sometimes that we talk about the past as so backwards, you know, and oh,
00:40:23.120 those were the dark ages.
00:40:24.500 Well, back in the dark ages, nobody was giving anybody puberty blockers and we weren't cutting
00:40:29.640 kids' genitals off.
00:40:31.340 I mean, for heaven's sake.
00:40:32.500 In just a few seconds that we have left.
00:40:33.960 Why do you think that a mom of a two-year-old would be compelled to say that her, you know,
00:40:41.240 son was actually a girl?
00:40:42.380 What's that about?
00:40:43.260 Well, I liken this to a cult.
00:40:44.760 This has all the hallmarks of a cult.
00:40:46.120 People act like that.
00:40:47.660 This has been sold as the new progressive thing.
00:40:49.860 But there's nothing progressive or loving about telling a child that they were born wrong.
00:40:54.000 Now, Chris, how can people support you?
00:40:56.460 Before we go to the break, I want people to know how they can support you.
00:40:59.480 Thank you.
00:41:00.140 They can go to billboardchris.com.
00:41:01.800 There's a donate button on there.
00:41:02.800 I'm traveling around the world to spread this message.
00:41:05.380 But really, I want people to get educated about this.
00:41:07.440 Because once they get educated, they can have these intelligent conversations about this.
00:41:11.320 Because we have to spread the word.
00:41:12.820 There's so much money fighting against us, but we have the truth and the truth spreads
00:41:15.960 for free.
00:41:16.720 Amen.
00:41:17.180 Chris, you're doing the Lord's work.
00:41:18.680 Thank you so much for your efforts.
00:41:20.080 Thank you for protecting our young.
00:41:22.380 You're my friend.
00:41:23.320 I really like you.
00:41:24.060 I support you.
00:41:24.800 I think you're doing fantastic work.
00:41:27.140 I'm always listening to Human Events with Jack Posobiec.
00:41:31.100 Okay, come closer to me.
00:41:32.800 Go.
00:41:36.600 And we are back with Human Events Daily, where Ava and I are filling in for Jack Posobiec.
00:41:42.380 Thanks for sticking around with us today.
00:41:43.900 We are live from Turning Point USA.
00:41:46.280 We've been having a great time here at this conference with all these amazing Americans
00:41:50.900 hanging out.
00:41:52.840 We're very glad to have you guys here.
00:41:55.480 So, yeah, we have, we've been, we had a lot of fun so far.
00:41:59.280 We've had, Billboard Chris was on.
00:42:01.020 We had Ashley.
00:42:01.620 He was talking about puberty blockers and trans stuff.
00:42:05.080 We had Ashley St. Clair on, the ex-it girl who was telling us all about censorship in
00:42:10.480 the EU and the US and how we're fighting back for free speech.
00:42:14.420 And now we have another issue that we're going to, we're going to get into.
00:42:17.440 Yes, absolutely.
00:42:18.500 So we've been talking about so many things here that, you know, don't just affect America,
00:42:22.960 but also affect the Netherlands.
00:42:24.280 And the common denominator is, of course, that we are fighting the same enemy, right?
00:42:29.200 We are all under attack by the same globalist agenda.
00:42:31.960 And one of the things that the globalists have figured out they need to do in order to
00:42:35.720 control us is to make us forget about our own identity, forget about our history, and
00:42:41.100 even paint a false picture, of course, of our history.
00:42:44.760 And now you came to me with a story, Libby, about, again, the toppling of a statue.
00:42:50.580 I'll tell you a little bit about what's going on in Europe because that just doesn't
00:42:53.640 just happened in the US, by the way.
00:42:55.360 Please tell me, what's the next person, who's the next white man that they now decided is
00:43:00.280 going to croak?
00:43:00.780 Yeah, this is actually something that I find really troubling.
00:43:03.860 I found it troubling when they were pulling down statues during the BLM and Antifa riots
00:43:08.460 in the summer of 2020.
00:43:09.760 They were going after Thomas Jefferson and George Washington and all of our founding fathers,
00:43:14.680 lashing out at them, lashing out at the memorials for them.
00:43:17.820 And now we have this thing where they're actually coming after monuments and cemeteries.
00:43:22.840 Arlington National Cemetery is where our veterans are buried in the United States, and there
00:43:27.780 is a memorial there called the Reconciliation Monument, and it is to slain Confederate soldiers
00:43:33.160 at Arlington National Cemetery.
00:43:35.680 Now, Confederate soldiers, they were on the losing side during the Civil War.
00:43:39.740 You know, my ancestors fought for the Union, but I have a lot of respect for people who stand
00:43:44.560 up for what they believe in, even if I don't even agree with them.
00:43:47.480 You know what I mean?
00:43:48.040 And I respect your right to do that.
00:43:50.360 And I think it's pretty interesting what happened after the Civil War.
00:43:55.020 The South was so decimated and so demoralized that you had daughters of the Confederacy trying
00:44:00.520 to revitalize just some pride in their region, even though they were definitely losing and
00:44:06.120 on the losing side and had some very awful ideas about slavery that are intolerable.
00:44:10.160 And they paid the price.
00:44:11.160 And they paid the price.
00:44:12.300 And they paid the price.
00:44:13.600 And we had a memorial to them in Arlington National Cemetery that now has been taken down
00:44:19.340 due to the Pentagon's Naming Commission, which ordered the removal of the names of bases,
00:44:24.060 posts, ships, streets, and other things named after Confederate soldiers.
00:44:28.980 Now, when they were toppling memorials, you know, previously in 2020, they said they weren't
00:44:34.280 going to come after cemeteries.
00:44:37.400 To a certain extent, I understand if voters want to take statues down.
00:44:41.040 I understand that.
00:44:41.900 It's where you live.
00:44:42.960 But to desecrate the dead seems just a step too far.
00:44:47.660 I wanted to say, like, nothing is sacred to these people, right?
00:44:50.780 Nothing is sacred.
00:44:51.920 And we're taking down statues of the dead of these, of the Confederate soldiers.
00:44:57.000 And we watched it get demolished today.
00:45:01.160 It was dismantled and taken down.
00:45:03.500 And I think it's just really a shame because it's not about the Confederacy.
00:45:07.360 So who did this exactly?
00:45:08.980 This was the Pentagon.
00:45:10.920 You're kidding.
00:45:11.700 No, this was the Department of Defense.
00:45:13.720 Oh, I was thinking you were talking about some Antifa types.
00:45:16.920 No, this isn't even a local thing.
00:45:18.520 No, this is the Biden administration, the Department of Defense, removing memorial to Confederate
00:45:22.900 soldiers at Arlington National Cemetery.
00:45:24.600 They're veterans just like anyone else.
00:45:26.780 They deserve a resting place.
00:45:28.820 Weren't they all?
00:45:29.560 They are Americans.
00:45:30.760 They're all Americans.
00:45:31.560 Yes.
00:45:31.880 So what I find most disturbing about this is that the more we take down the monuments that
00:45:38.100 show us what our history was, the less we're going to understand that history.
00:45:41.960 And the more easily manipulated Americans will be, the more easily manipulated our kids
00:45:46.340 are going to be into having no understanding of what came before.
00:45:49.880 I think that it's so important to understand the conflicts that our nation has had.
00:45:54.880 You know, I think that's so key.
00:45:57.100 So, um, yes.
00:45:58.120 And not just America.
00:45:59.280 I mean, this is going on everywhere.
00:46:00.600 Right.
00:46:01.040 So the rewriting of our history.
00:46:03.520 That's the scary thing is the rewriting of the American past, the rewriting of the
00:46:08.380 past in Europe as well.
00:46:09.600 All to inflict guilt on the current generation.
00:46:13.240 Right.
00:46:13.500 Right.
00:46:13.740 So, I mean, I'm from Europe, as you guys know, and Germany is a perfect example.
00:46:18.120 It's a perfect example.
00:46:19.140 Right.
00:46:19.580 It's literally, I have friends there, and even still now, sort of the prejudice that
00:46:24.660 exists against Germans, even though they obviously have nothing to do at all with the
00:46:30.400 events of the Second World War, is still alive because it is kept alive.
00:46:34.700 Right.
00:46:34.820 And it is used to basically demonize and make suspicious any type of sentiment of healthy,
00:46:42.400 you know, patriotism or conservatism.
00:46:45.200 Because it's obviously a very easy thing to just say like, oh, the moment you are in favor
00:46:50.200 of conservative values, the moment that you don't think that the patriarchy needs to be
00:46:53.840 destroyed and it's this horrible, oppressive construct, then you know what?
00:46:57.980 We're going to call you a Nazi and you are responsible for the next Holocaust.
00:47:02.220 That type of emotional manipulation, of moral manipulation, is a weapon that they very
00:47:08.740 effectively use.
00:47:09.820 And it's so important.
00:47:10.620 Like, to be a patriot in this country is to love the country despite our great faults.
00:47:15.280 Of course.
00:47:16.020 Right?
00:47:16.080 And that's such a huge deal.
00:47:17.500 That's such a big thing.
00:47:18.880 And how are we even going to know where we came from if we just destroy it?
00:47:22.880 We don't have to feel shame for our past to understand it, to accept it, you know, and
00:47:28.200 to know where we came from.
00:47:30.220 It's really pretty, it's really pretty terrifying to see this go down.
00:47:33.660 And I hate this.
00:47:34.440 Like, what else are we going to pull down?
00:47:36.160 And what from our era is going to be pulled down in the name of progress?
00:47:40.040 I mean, what are we pulling down and what are we erecting, right?
00:47:42.560 I mean, what are we erecting?
00:47:43.620 That's a great question.
00:47:44.500 It is.
00:47:44.840 What is going up in the place of these things?
00:47:46.620 Well, let me tell you what's going up in the place of this.
00:47:48.960 So in Rotterdam the other day, there was a statue that was erected.
00:47:52.440 This is obviously taxpayers' money.
00:47:54.520 Of course, we're all paying for our own destruction, ladies and gentlemen.
00:47:58.800 I don't know what to tell you.
00:47:59.920 Can we quote that?
00:48:00.180 We're all paying for our own destruction.
00:48:01.780 We are all paying for our own destruction.
00:48:03.300 And I think that that is an absolute disgrace.
00:48:06.120 And we need to think about what the answer to that is.
00:48:08.600 Because I'm sick and tired of paying for my own destruction.
00:48:11.720 But yes, one of the wonderful things that my tax money went to was a new statue in Rotterdam.
00:48:16.980 This is about a half a year ago or so.
00:48:19.340 And it was of a woman, an anonymous woman.
00:48:22.700 It wasn't anyone in particular.
00:48:24.020 It was just a woman wearing a track suit.
00:48:26.620 The statue was horribly ugly.
00:48:28.780 And I think it was even called anonymous black woman who was just standing there with her pockets in, her hands in her pockets, just standing there sort of slouching.
00:48:37.020 And it is, I don't know how many meters tall.
00:48:39.900 And it just stands there on the square in Rotterdam.
00:48:42.340 It's larger than life size?
00:48:43.560 It's way larger than life size.
00:48:45.460 And it's a nondescript individual who hasn't done anything, you know, or hasn't contributed anything.
00:48:50.380 It's like random face of progress.
00:48:52.700 Yes.
00:48:53.080 And this is all obviously a result, of course, of the Black Lives Matter movement where we are now taking down statues.
00:48:59.400 Oh, actually, the takedown of the statue was blocked.
00:49:02.460 Oh.
00:49:02.580 We just got this message from Jack.
00:49:04.340 Good.
00:49:05.160 Finally.
00:49:05.640 We should talk about that after the break, which we are about to go to.
00:49:08.680 That is amazing.
00:49:09.700 So, there is some resistance still, everybody.
00:49:11.720 I am so happy to see that.
00:49:12.920 Let's talk a little bit more about how we can resist this lunacy.
00:49:17.000 No, wait a minute.
00:49:18.680 We still have a few seconds more to talk about the resistance because we need to fight this lunacy.