Human Events Daily with Jack Posobiec - January 03, 2024


EPISODE 640: THE TRUTH ABOUT WATERGATE WITH ROGER STONE


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Roger Stone joins host Jack Posobiec to discuss Watergate and why the story of Richard Nixon s Watergate scandal is rarely discussed in American history. The truth about Watergate is much darker than the truth about the assassination of John F. Kennedy.

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00:00:57.340 This is what happens when the fourth turning meets fifth generation warfare.
00:01:06.420 A commentator, international social media sensation, and former Navy intelligence veteran.
00:01:13.140 This is Human Events with your host, Jack Posobiec.
00:01:16.060 Deliver us from evil.
00:01:18.200 Ladies and gentlemen, welcome aboard today's special edition of Human Events.
00:01:22.680 Last year, during the Christmas break, we conducted an interview with Roger Stone that has gone
00:01:28.440 viral all year regarding the truth about the assassination of JFK.
00:01:33.780 And there's another story that I've always wanted to do an episode with Roger about.
00:01:38.880 It's a story that actually involves him, believe it or not, as so many stories do.
00:01:44.580 And this is a story that's perhaps even more central to what has happened to our government
00:01:51.420 in the intervening years since that fateful day in Dealey Plaza, 1963 to today, about the
00:01:58.480 true control and the true nature of power of the United States federal government.
00:02:03.320 And this is the story about the truth about Watergate.
00:02:07.640 Roger Stone joins us now.
00:02:09.160 Roger, how are you?
00:02:10.360 Jack, great to be back with you.
00:02:11.840 Well, you know, Roger, it's one of those things.
00:02:14.180 They say you are the man most closely associated with Nixon, who's still involved in American
00:02:19.460 politics.
00:02:21.020 And yet Watergate has always been the story that seems just out of grasp for the American
00:02:25.560 right.
00:02:25.940 Why is that?
00:02:27.280 Well, because I think at the time we had a completely monolithic media, three major television
00:02:34.440 networks.
00:02:35.080 In those days, news magazines like Time and Newsweek, Life, Look, long gone.
00:02:42.960 They were extraordinarily powerful and dominant.
00:02:46.180 And of course, we had no national newspapers.
00:02:49.480 But the New York Times and the Washington Post and the Wall Street Journal were rising in their
00:02:55.100 influence.
00:02:55.620 And they all had one narrative.
00:02:58.240 And it was it was the accepted narrative essentially invented by two reporters at The Washington Post,
00:03:06.220 Bob Woodward and Carl Bernstein.
00:03:08.460 The problem, of course, is that over time, that narrative has always stood as the standard
00:03:15.560 tale of Watergate.
00:03:17.400 It's very rarely gotten any reexamination.
00:03:21.040 And then the other reason is because John Dean, who really is the perp in all of this,
00:03:27.220 as you will see, has been extremely litigious.
00:03:30.340 So anytime any scholar or author or journalist put forward a book or a movie or a documentary
00:03:39.220 questioning his role or what really happened in Watergate, he would threaten to sue them,
00:03:46.340 threaten to sue their publishers and so on.
00:03:48.560 So there's a direct line, Jack, between the assassination of John F. Kennedy, the removal
00:03:55.220 of Richard Nixon in a silent coup, as opposed to a bloody coup, as was the case with JFK,
00:04:02.060 the attempted removal of Ronald Reagan over Iran-Contra, and the attempted removal of Donald
00:04:09.880 Trump in the Russian collusion hoax, and then in two failed impeachments.
00:04:15.760 We're talking about the same institutions, the people who killed Kennedy, the people who
00:04:21.700 took down Nixon, the people who tried to take down Reagan, the people who tried to take down
00:04:27.300 Trump.
00:04:27.800 These are the same institutions.
00:04:30.060 You can call them the military-industrial complex.
00:04:33.500 You can call them the deep state.
00:04:35.420 But it is the concentration of unelected power, bureaucrats in our intelligence agencies, in our justice
00:04:43.680 department, in the think tanks, in the defense contractors.
00:04:48.920 It's the permanent government in place.
00:04:52.020 And Richard Nixon posed an existential threat to them in 1973 after winning the greatest single
00:05:00.920 landslide in American political history.
00:05:05.080 Nixon was threatening the power of the Central Intelligence Agency.
00:05:08.820 He was threatening to reorganize the national security apparatus.
00:05:14.300 And for that reason, he had to be taken down.
00:05:18.580 And as we will outline here today, that's precisely what happened.
00:05:22.900 It's very interesting that just in the last several days, there's been a very good article
00:05:31.140 at Politico, and the presidency of Richard Nixon is beginning, finally, to get a re-examination. 0.95
00:05:39.780 Generally speaking, when you say Nixon, people say, oh, he was a crook. 0.87
00:05:43.460 Well, he wasn't a crook.
00:05:44.880 He didn't steal anything, not a single penny.
00:05:47.440 He was a politician, and he played politics the way politics was played.
00:05:52.900 But he certainly did nothing that his predecessors didn't do, and he certainly did nothing that his
00:05:58.240 successors did not do.
00:06:01.100 And yet, for some reason, we've re-examined the JFK narrative to the point where I don't
00:06:07.300 think anyone really believes the official JFK narrative anymore.
00:06:11.160 There's Oliver Stone movies, there's documentaries, there's millions of talk shows and podcasts
00:06:16.020 and books, and yet the Watergate story, but for the yeoman efforts of Tucker Carlson and
00:06:22.100 a few others, obviously yourself, has never really been struck down.
00:06:25.640 So what I hope that we can do today with this special, and I expect it will go just as viral
00:06:29.900 as the JFK one, is that we will begin to actually re-examine the story of Watergate and begin
00:06:37.420 to get the ball rolling to fully re-examine what actually happened with all the president's
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00:07:06.380 And we're back, Human Events special, The Truth About Watergate.
00:07:14.040 So, Roger, we're told Watergate is this tale of Richard Nixon orders his committee staff,
00:07:23.040 the committee to re-elect the president, CREEP, to conduct a series of burglaries of the DNC
00:07:30.160 offices.
00:07:30.740 We're not exactly told why they were conducting these series of burglaries, but we're told
00:07:35.980 that they do this.
00:07:37.100 We're then told that because they get caught, this starts a huge cover-up situation, and
00:07:44.580 of course, famously, infamously, these tapes within the Oval Office are found where the
00:07:50.520 president is ordering the cover-up, and the president, Nixon himself, is caught red-handed
00:07:56.640 on these tapes, ordering the cover-up, ordering the burglary, this is what takes him down,
00:08:02.620 this is what leads to, and of course, stunning impeachment inquiries are opened up, Nixon leaves
00:08:08.740 the presidency, and we're told that this is the entire story tied up with a bow, and it's
00:08:14.800 all thanks to the intrepid journalism of Woodward and Bernstein, and all of the movies and TV shows
00:08:22.880 that are made of them, the journalists themselves go on to become mainstays on media, mainstream media,
00:08:30.400 for really the rest of their careers, continuing to today, even to the point where they always sort of
00:08:35.060 roll Bernstein out to say, this is worse than Watergate, this is worse than Watergate, with every latest
00:08:40.080 fake Trump scandal, and it's kind of gotten to the point where people say, well, if he's so wrong about
00:08:46.620 everything that's going on in the Trump administration, and we can see that he's been so wrong about all of
00:08:52.080 these Trump scandals and Trump hoaxes, went all in on the Russiagate hoax, then of course, it beggars
00:08:58.540 the question, was he also just as wrong about Watergate? And then, for me, I think that when I first,
00:09:07.680 you know, you caught, what was your red pill moment, as the kids say, they say, what was your first moment?
00:09:13.240 And I said, the first moment was when I realized that Mark Felt, the deep throat, was actually one of the
00:09:19.420 top officials for the Federal Bureau of Investigation. I said, wait a minute, this isn't a
00:09:24.560 whistleblower. This is an FBI release going to the media in the same type of operation as Operation
00:09:32.660 Mockingbird. Something's not sitting right here. Roger, what's wrong with that story?
00:09:38.720 Well, you're right, Jack. That is the official narrative. There's only one minor problem.
00:09:42.420 It's bullshit. Look, Richard Nixon had no reason to break into the Watergate. He was leading in the 0.99
00:09:49.560 polls in 49 states. He carried 49 to 50 states in the greatest landslide in American political history.
00:09:57.700 Anyone with any experience in national politics, and Nixon at that point had been on four national
00:10:04.180 tickets, knew that there was nothing of any value at the Democratic National Committee to obtain.
00:10:10.520 To the extent that there was any action, it would have been over at George McGovern, the Democratic
00:10:15.880 candidate's headquarters. So we're still lacking the motive. But the key figure in Watergate, you see
00:10:22.960 him on CNN all the time, is John Dean. John Dean was the White House counsel. Now, the mainstream media
00:10:31.300 would say that he was a brave hero, that he was a whistleblower. All of that is nonsense.
00:10:36.740 John Dean is the man who planned, pushed, executed, and then covered up the Watergate break-in. He did so
00:10:46.040 because he wanted to obtain records from a call girl ring that was being utilized by the Democratic
00:10:54.100 National Committee. His interest in that was very simple. One of the women who had worked for this
00:11:00.480 call girl ring, who was depicted in a portfolio of photographs, happened to be his wife. An excellent 0.86
00:11:08.140 book by Phil Stanford called White House Call Girl that documents all of this. So it was Dean who pushed
00:11:17.780 the entire Watergate break-in. It is Dean who lied to Nixon for 19 months. Dean told Nixon repeatedly
00:11:28.300 that no one inside the White House was aware of the break-in in advance or had received the fruits of the
00:11:38.100 wiretaps that had been placed in the Watergate, which, by the way, never actually functioned anyway.
00:11:45.520 We also know now, only because of recently declassified documents, that the Central Intelligence
00:11:52.400 Agency was well aware of the misguided plan pushed by John Dean, but run by a man named G. Gordon Liddy
00:12:01.740 to break into the Watergate. Eugenio Martinez, who's still living, who I interviewed for my book on
00:12:09.280 Watergate. He is in his 90s, lives in Miami. He had the key to the desk draw where the portfolio of the
00:12:18.100 women who had worked in this coral gold ring was kept. He attempted to swallow the key when the men
00:12:25.800 were arrested, and that was prevented. Which was, of course, by the way, in the one, you know, sort of
00:12:32.080 mainstream movie about this, we were told they were tipped off by the phone call from one Forrest
00:12:37.480 Gump. So what we're saying is that when they, so everyone remembers that scene in Forrest Gump,
00:12:42.440 but the way to look at it is that they're not going there on the orders of Nixon. They're going
00:12:48.100 there on the orders of Dean because he's worried about, and break this down for me a little bit
00:12:54.520 here, there's a call girl ring that's operating out of this, well, they're operating out of a hotel
00:13:00.800 nearby, but there's a list of the girls. His girlfriend, later wife, is one of the girls on
00:13:07.440 that. What you're talking about sounds like a blackmail operation.
00:13:10.040 And that's precisely why he wants that information and why he pushes the Watergate break-in. If you
00:13:17.660 go to Bob Haldeman's book and also his diary, Nixon is surprised when he learns about the break-in.
00:13:24.700 He's in Key Biscayne, he reads it in the newspaper, and he says, what the hell is this? Who would break
00:13:29.560 into the Watergate and why? There's no evidence whatsoever that Nixon knew in advance about or ever
00:13:35.500 approved the Watergate break-in. Again, there's no reason for him to do so. There's no motive for him
00:13:41.900 to do so. There is no information kept at the Democratic National Committee that would be of
00:13:47.700 great interest. So he is shocked. Now, the extent that John Dean has gone to to hide his role is really
00:13:56.620 quite incredible. He publishes a book several years ago called The Nixon Defense, which he claims is the
00:14:05.460 only existing definitive transcription of all of the Watergate tapes. But he very conveniently leaves out
00:14:17.600 the tapes of March 13th, 16th, and 17th of 1973. Why would he just leave these out of his books as if they didn't
00:14:26.140 exist? That's because when you examine them, they prove that it was John Dean who was pushing the Watergate break-in
00:14:32.980 and John Dean who was coaching his client, Richard Nixon, to perjure himself and to engage in the cover-up.
00:14:41.980 Then, interestingly enough, a very celebrated left-wing professor named Stanley Cutler actually
00:14:49.940 produces a book, but then he reverses the order of these transcriptions to enhance the view of Dean as
00:15:00.000 some kind of whistleblower or hero. He gets nailed pretty quickly on that effort. The point, of course,
00:15:08.720 is that the CIA not only knows about this, Jack, but they infiltrate the Watergate burglar team and
00:15:16.440 four of the eight Watergate burglars are still on the payroll of the Central Intelligence Agency.
00:15:22.520 Now, this piece, I want to double stomp this. I want to foot stomp it. I want to bookmark this.
00:15:29.600 Everyone needs to hear this piece of this. Four of the eight burglars at the Watergate Hotel were still
00:15:37.580 on the payroll of the Central Intelligence Agency. In fact, at least two of them that we now know of
00:15:45.260 also participated in the Bay of Pigs operation. Roger, when you're talking about a CIA call girl
00:15:53.260 blackmail operation, the fact that the CIA is taking notice of this, I just have to say this is
00:16:02.500 starting to sound like a CIA operation. Well, the Central Intelligence Agency has a great motive in
00:16:09.360 the takedown of Nixon. That's because Nixon is fully aware of the CIA's involvement in the murder of John
00:16:17.420 Kennedy. Beginning in January of 1969, when he first takes office, Nixon begins demanding all of the
00:16:25.120 Central Intelligence Agency records on the JFK hit. And CIA director Richard Helms refuses to turn them
00:16:33.300 over to White House counsel John Ehrlichman. This infuriates Nixon because he knows what they're
00:16:41.400 covering up. There is, as we now know, a very famous tape just at the beginning of the Watergate scandal
00:16:49.020 where Nixon is meeting with Richard Helms, the CIA director in his office. And he basically tells
00:16:57.680 Helms what he knows. Now, it's an attempt by Nixon to try to get the assistance of the CIA to fend off the
00:17:06.440 wolves coming after him in Watergate. He basically says to Helms, look, there's been a lot of dirty
00:17:12.720 business over there, things that needed to be done. He's alluding to the CIA's role in Guatemala and the
00:17:19.840 coup there. And God knows I've helped you cover up a lot of things. But let's just say I know who shot
00:17:27.860 John. There it is in plain sight. Now, until I wrote that for Substack after after finding
00:17:36.400 the actual recording and it being broadcasted by Tucker Carlson, no one has ever focused on this.
00:17:45.260 Nixon knew the Central Intelligence Agency's deepest secret. So the connection to the Central
00:17:51.640 Intelligence Agency and the Kennedy assassination is absolutely clear. But it's also why Gerald Ford
00:17:59.560 was chosen to succeed Nixon. Nixon was cornered. The national media had so turned on him that he
00:18:09.560 went within a year and a half of being the most popular president in American history to be a reviled
00:18:16.120 villain. Barry Goldwater and Senator Hugh Scott came to him and said, look, the articles of impeachment
00:18:23.560 are being have been passed in the House. You don't have the votes to survive in the Senate. Your best
00:18:29.560 bet is to survive. Now, folks won't remember this, but Vice President Spiro Agnew was also an outsider
00:18:38.520 hated by the establishment, had gotten caught in a really venal corruption scandal and had been forced
00:18:48.080 to resign in return for not going to prison. And therefore, Nixon was in the position of having to
00:18:55.620 choose appoint a new vice president subject to the confirmation of the U.S. Senate. And of all people,
00:19:03.860 he chose Gerald Ford, who was the House Minority Leader. When I asked Alexander Haig, who was Nixon's
00:19:13.380 White House Chief of Staff, why he had taken Ford rather than, say, Barry Goldwater or Nelson Rockefeller 0.98
00:19:20.580 or several others who were more logical, Haig said, look, Nixon had Ford by the balls.
00:19:28.660 Nixon knew that in the Warren Commission, as a member of the Warren Commission, Gerald Ford had gone in at 0.75
00:19:36.660 the request of FBI Director J. Edgar Hoover and with a pencil, changed the formal autopsy diagram of JFK,
00:19:45.940 moving the depiction of the wound in Kennedy's upper back to the base of his neck, a rear, the rear of the
00:19:54.580 base of his neck to fit the cockamamie single bullet theory. So Nixon realized that he had this leverage
00:20:03.100 on Ford. Agnew, he used to joke, was his life insurance policy. Hell, they'll never impeach me if they think
00:20:10.980 Agnew's going to become president, but Agnew was gone.
00:20:14.180 They get rid of Agnew. Roger, we're coming up on a quick break. You're walking through
00:20:18.580 some of the darkest secrets of the government, the darkest secrets of the deep state,
00:20:24.020 the darkest secrets, in fact, of the mainstream media. Stay tuned. We've got more coming up next.
00:20:28.740 Human Events Special, The Truth About Watergate.
00:20:33.620 And we're back. Human Events Special Edition, The Truth About Watergate.
00:20:38.340 The break-in of Watergate, sent by agents of the CIA, who, by the way, later admit this,
00:20:45.940 it publicly, after they've served their time, after the investigations have been done,
00:20:51.220 break into the Watergate Hotel, not for political purposes, but to find the list of names of a call
00:21:00.340 girl ring that's been operating nearby and in the area, and the list specifically of their clients
00:21:10.020 that is in one of the desks of the offices there. Then, at the same time, when in the fallout of this,
00:21:19.220 Speer-Wagnew is replaced by Gerald Ford as the vice president. But Roger, before we go into
00:21:25.620 to pick up the story of Ford, I want to ask you this. When I hear this situation,
00:21:32.180 a CIA blackmail ring of girls, call girls, prostitutes, and specifically not just the
00:21:39.460 names of the girls, but the names of the clients, I have to say that this sounds awfully reminiscent
00:21:49.220 of a certain man who had a similar operation down in the Caribbean, who is also no longer with us,
00:21:56.260 who's named Jeffrey Epstein. Because while we can seem to find evidence of Epstein, evidence of his
00:22:02.900 lieutenants like Ghislaine Maxwell, evidence of the girls' names who have come out publicly,
00:22:07.860 I say this is the first time there has been a sex ring where we can find no clients of the ring
00:22:14.340 itself. And the tapes and the black book all seem to disappear. Why does this seem so similar to me,
00:22:21.300 Roger? Well, I think it's important to recognize that the call girl ring in question, run by a woman
00:22:27.380 named Heidi Reichen, is not only providing girls for Democratic dignitaries when they visit town, 1.00
00:22:36.180 as booked through the Democratic National Committee. They're also providing girls for
00:22:41.380 the State Department, for the Republican National Committee, and the little black book of Heidi Reichen
00:22:48.420 is actually published in Phil Stanford's book. It has some very interesting people in it. For example,
00:22:54.660 Senator Lowell Weicker, Nixon's leading critic in the Watergate investigation,
00:23:00.500 member of the Watergate Senate Committee. You can see why he wouldn't want those records to come out. Or
00:23:05.780 Sam Dash, the chief counsel to the Senate Watergate Committee. Why would his name be in Heidi Reichen's book?
00:23:14.340 Or for that matter, why would John Dean? His name's in the book, although he has a code name, which is
00:23:21.060 clout. Hmm, interesting. So the real purpose of the Watergate break-in is to obtain, particularly,
00:23:29.300 the portfolio of girls who are available, which I contend, as does Stanford, includes Dean's wife,
00:23:37.300 Maureen Dean. In her own book, she actually has a picture of her husband and herself and Heidi Reichen,
00:23:44.420 the woman who ran this call girl ring. So to kind of fast forward, I think that covers the motive.
00:23:52.340 We've also covered the CIA's involvement and advanced knowledge. A White House, pardon me,
00:23:58.500 a Watergate prosecutor named Nick Ackerman, who appears regularly now on MSNBC, by the way,
00:24:05.140 he's called me a Russian spy and worse. We now have from declassified documents absolute proof
00:24:11.700 that he knew of the CIA's involvement and knowledge of Watergate, but he did nothing about it. The
00:24:19.620 chairman of the committee, Sam Irvin of North Carolina, wouldn't even allow a minority report
00:24:30.420 to be published. That's because Senator Howard Baker, the ranking Republican on the committee,
00:24:36.340 and his counsel, Fred Thompson, later a U.S. Senator from Tennessee himself, knew of the Central
00:24:42.340 Intelligence Agency's knowledge and involvement in the break-in, and therefore the larger picture.
00:24:49.140 The reason Nixon takes Ford is because he knows that he has the goods on Ford, because he knows
00:24:54.980 what Ford did as a member of the Warren Commission, helping cover up the murder of John F. Kennedy,
00:25:00.260 and he uses that information to get a pardon from Gerald Ford. General Alexander Haig, later
00:25:08.580 Nixon's White House Chief of Staff, is the one who brokers that pardon, letting Jerry Ford know that if,
00:25:15.460 well, if Nixon's going down, he says, he's taking everybody with him. Ford got the message loud and clear.
00:25:23.780 You're absolutely right about the fact that E. Howard Hunt, the famous Watergate burglar, who was also
00:25:30.260 just coincidentally on the ground in Dealey Plaza on November 22nd, 1963, says on his deathbed to his
00:25:38.180 son, St. John Hunt, who I co-authored a book, The Bush Crime Family with, that it was a CIA operation
00:25:46.900 to kill John Kennedy, but that Lyndon Baines Johnson was running the show, his exact words. He referred to
00:25:55.140 it as the big event. So Nixon had to be removed for the same reason that they tried to remove Donald
00:26:05.220 Trump. He posed an existential threat to the permanent uniparty deep state apparatus running the country and
00:26:15.140 seeking to run the globe. Now, President Trump has asked me several times about Nixon and Watergate.
00:26:22.820 Nixon and Trump famously met in George Steinbrenner, the owner of the New York Yankees box at Yankee
00:26:31.140 Stadium. Nixon came away extraordinarily impressed. He called me the next day and he said, well,
00:26:37.620 I met your man, Trump. And let me tell you, if he gets into politics, this guy could go all the way.
00:26:43.940 And I said, well, sir, are you saying he should run for governor of New York? No,
00:26:47.700 no. He said, I think he can go all the way. And there is, as you know, Jack, a famous letter
00:26:53.460 that Nixon handwrites to Donald Trump the day after meeting him, telling him that Nixon and Mrs. Nixon
00:27:01.140 both agree that Trump has what it takes if he ever decides to get into the political arena. But the
00:27:08.260 question that Trump has specifically posed to me, Jack, is why did Nixon throw in the towel? Why did he
00:27:14.980 quit? Why didn't he fight it out? That is, after all, not very Trumpian. The answer is because there
00:27:22.180 was no internet. There was no social media. There were no alternative news outlets. We were stuck with
00:27:29.460 one narrative, their narrative. In fact, when Nixon has a press conference and he specifically says,
00:27:36.500 look, the people have a right to know whether their president is a crook. Well, I am not a crook.
00:27:42.980 That gets turned on him with a vengeance. Yet there's no evidence whatsoever that unlike Lyndon Johnson,
00:27:49.780 who made millions and millions of dollars through his stock holdings in the war in Vietnam and its
00:27:55.940 escalation done at his direction, Richard Nixon never earned a dishonest penny in his life. He leaves
00:28:03.540 Washington dirt broke. Actually, he leaves town deep in debt to his lawyers. He's the only former
00:28:11.620 president who will not take a penny after leaving the presidency, will not serve on any boards,
00:28:16.980 will not give any paid speeches, will take no honorariums. He basically regains his financial
00:28:24.420 health by writing a series of New York Times bestselling books on foreign policy. And he reinvents
00:28:31.380 himself as a sage advisor to every post-Nixonian president until his death, visiting the Soviet
00:28:40.980 Union and China and advising Bill Clinton, George Bush, and so on.
00:28:46.020 This is an incredible tale, Roger, because I think for all these years, and by the way,
00:28:52.660 and I'll ask a little bit of this in the next segment, this is the same story that you've stuck to
00:28:58.100 since the early 1970s when all of this began. It's just only now that because of the intervening years,
00:29:06.820 the intervening efforts, and really the pushback has gone so far, right? The powers that be have gone
00:29:14.340 so far, the mainstream media has gone so far, and we now have the ability, as you say, to disintermediate
00:29:21.700 the narratives. We can disintermediate the big three papers and the big three channels that used to
00:29:26.820 control the mono narrative within the United States and within the West, and we have the ability to
00:29:33.460 simply share this true information. And if you can take one thing out of this, just one thing,
00:29:39.540 that's all you need, is the fact that four of the eight Watergate burglars were on the current payroll
00:29:48.180 of the Central Intelligence Agency when they conducted that break-in. And if you hadn't heard
00:29:54.420 that information, you need to put it all the way forward. Oliver Stone, if you're listening, I think that
00:30:00.580 Stone and Stone, Roger Stone, have a movie that you could potentially put together. I don't know
00:30:06.260 if Kevin Costner is still involved, but maybe we can find someone to play your prosecutor. We have the
00:30:13.140 ability now to go back to disintermediate these narratives and find out the truth about the wool
00:30:19.460 that's been pulled over the eyes of people like Woodward and Bernstein at the Washington Post, people who
00:30:27.380 never should have been given those positions to begin with. Stay tuned, coming up more with Roger Stone.
00:30:35.140 We are back here sitting with Roger Stone. He's telling us the full story of the truth behind
00:30:41.780 Watergate. Now, Roger, I want to walk through a little bit, and I teased a bit at the beginning
00:30:46.820 of this, that for you, this isn't just a story that you've read about or that you've watched on TV.
00:30:53.060 You were actually there. So can you put us in the sort of the desk, put us in the office,
00:31:00.180 the committee to reelect the president? You're there. This is all happening around you. You're
00:31:04.660 you and you're kind of just getting started in politics. And suddenly all of this is thrown at
00:31:09.700 you and the entire media is lying. What was that like? It was horrific. I was 19 years old. I was the
00:31:16.500 youngest member of the staff of the committee to reelect the president. My boss, a guy named Bart
00:31:22.580 Porter, was involved in the cover up. He worked for Jeb Stuart Magruder. It's kind of funny. The weekend
00:31:29.380 of the break in, I was house sitting because Porter was in California with the rest of the Nixon staff
00:31:35.540 and he had dogs. He had a very nice house in the Spring Valley area of DC. And I would say after
00:31:45.060 midnight, the phone rang and I picked it up and it said, this is Gordon Liddy. Let me talk to Porter.
00:31:52.100 I said, I'm sorry, Mr. Porter is out of town for the weekend. And Liddy used the F-bomb and hung up.
00:31:59.620 About 20 minutes later, the phone rang again. It was James McCord, one of the other Watergate 0.62
00:32:06.180 burglars who said, this is James McCord. I'm calling for Herbert Bart Porter. I said, I'm sorry,
00:32:12.420 Mr. Porter is out of town. He said, out of town. I said, yes, sir. Can I take a message? He said,
00:32:17.780 yeah, tell him McCord called. Tell him I said, the jig is up. So that's why when I saw the next day,
00:32:26.660 a man named Van Shumway, spokesman for the committee to reelect the president, hold a press conference
00:32:32.420 and say, no one at the committee to reelect the president had any knowledge of the Watergate break-in.
00:32:38.420 I knew that that was not true. But you mentioned Bob Woodward and his role in this. You see,
00:32:45.700 Bob Woodward and Carl Bernstein were the two reporters at the Washington Post who kind of broke
00:32:52.580 this story. Woodward has gone to great lengths to hide the fact that he was a veteran of naval
00:32:59.140 intelligence. And his job in naval intelligence was briefing none other than White House Chief of
00:33:05.540 Staff, Al Haig, and Admiral Thomas Maurer, who was the chairman of the Joint Chiefs. Maurer,
00:33:13.060 by the way before his death, confirmed that for me. It's in, I think, both of the books that I have
00:33:18.100 written on Watergate and Richard Nixon. So this whole idea that Mark Felt, the deputy director of
00:33:27.540 the FBI, Mark Felt is not Deep Throat. Deep Throat is actually General Alexander Haig. There's a couple
00:33:35.060 reasons why Felt comes forward. First of all, by the time Felt self-identifies as Deep Throat,
00:33:41.700 he's had a stroke and he can no longer speak. So his daughter is speaking for him. He's also indigent
00:33:48.660 and a lot of good, lucrative, journalistic opportunities come his way. The reason that
00:33:55.460 Woodward and Bernstein, who know that Mark Felt is not Deep Throat, embrace this falsehood is because
00:34:03.300 it was getting pretty hot. Too many people were putting together the pieces and realized that Mark Felt
00:34:09.060 had actually left the FBI and would never have been in a position to know the information that
00:34:15.700 Deep Throat, as a source, allegedly gave the two Washington Post reporters about Watergate.
00:34:21.860 But here's the other thing, Jack. Their famous book, All the President's Men, no mention of Deep Throat.
00:34:28.260 The movie starring Robert Redford and Dustin Hoffman as Woodward and Bernstein,
00:34:33.460 No mention of Deep Throat there either. So Deep Throat only comes up later as kind of a catch-all.
00:34:41.700 I think Deep Throat is actually a composite of a number of sources who want Nixon to be taken down.
00:34:49.460 But there's a great book called Haig's Coup by Ray Locker of USA Today that makes an overwhelming case
00:34:59.700 that General Alexander Haig, who had become Nixon's chief of staff after he was forced to fire Bob
00:35:06.740 Haldeman because of his involvement in Watergate, is Deep Throat. Woodward goes to the extent of
00:35:13.780 getting Locker fired from his job at USA Today simply because he's written this great book.
00:35:20.580 For anyone who doubts that General Haig is Deep Throat, they should check that book out.
00:35:25.860 And two of the other books that I've gone through in really understanding this, and these are not
00:35:32.500 new books. These are books that have been out for a long time. It's just that so many people have
00:35:37.620 refused to just go and do the work of looking at them. And these are well-researched, full of FOIA
00:35:43.700 documents, full of direct interviews, Secret Agenda, and you mentioned the one already, Silent Coup.
00:35:49.700 And in those books, they do the work. And even the first one there, Secret Agenda by Jim Haugen,
00:35:57.460 was only written in 1984, so just a few years after the events itself. And he really begins to start to
00:36:04.980 wind back the narrative and dispel some of these myths. Silent Coup goes even further to specifically
00:36:12.260 lay out, I believe 1991, essentially the narrative that we are saying now, that this was not a cover-up
00:36:19.780 of a break-in conducted by Nixon. This was a coup of Nixon by the CIA, what we would now call the Deep
00:36:26.740 State, to get him out of office. Yeah, and it's interesting that both Haugen, who wrote a great book,
00:36:33.460 and also Len Kolodny, who passed away recently, was a great source for my books and a great
00:36:41.700 protagonist to John Dean, underwent years and years and years of litigation in which Dean sought to
00:36:49.140 silence them. The other great book, written by James Rosen, now at Newsmax, formerly with Fox,
00:36:55.540 a great reporter. The Strong Man, a biography of John Mitchell, who I worked for as a deputy in the 1968
00:37:05.300 campaign, more of a gopher but an assistant, is another guy who faced enormous litigation challenges
00:37:15.780 from Dean. That book is a masterpiece, The Strong Man by James Rosen. I have besieged Rosen to put it
00:37:24.340 back out in paperback, it's that good. Unfortunately, although Rosen never flinched, I think his
00:37:31.620 publisher did flinch, and they never gave the book the kind of promotion that it deserves. It is one
00:37:38.180 of the greatest political biographies I've ever read, but it is also a very good, clean delineation
00:37:46.260 about the truth about Watergate. John Mitchell, who was Attorney General of the United States,
00:37:51.140 Nixon's former law partner, would go to prison over Watergate, but would maintain to his dying day
00:37:58.020 that he never approved the Watergate break-in. I believe that he was right. The Watergate break-in 0.99
00:38:04.580 was approved by Jeb Stuart Magruder under the remorseless prodding of John W. Dean, who now you can see on CNN
00:38:14.260 regularly with this extraordinary criticism of Trump. Before that it was the Bushes. Everything's worse
00:38:22.740 than Watergate. Never forget John Dean was disbarred for his activities. The Watergate special prosecutors
00:38:30.260 found enormous discrepancies between Dean's testimony to the prosecutors and his testimony to the Senate
00:38:39.220 Watergate Committee, and a number of discrepancies in his book, Blind Ambition, which he later tries
00:38:47.140 to go back and blame on Taylor Branch, the Pulitzer Prize-winning author who Ghost wrote that book.
00:38:55.060 And by the way, Roger, and I even pulled up some of the reporting that Rosen had done just before the
00:39:00.340 interview here, and Dean at one of these defamation trials, by the way, the defamation suit which he
00:39:06.100 launches, he then later in deposition uh repudiates his own book. We said that he's first he claims he didn't
00:39:14.900 write his book, then he claims he didn't even read his book. Well that I might believe. You will see this
00:39:21.140 guy on CNN, they tried him every time they need him out, every time they need somebody to say whatever
00:39:27.540 has just transpired is worse than Watergate. Let's let's take that for a moment, because I think it's a key
00:39:32.500 point. In Watergate, a group of misguided private citizens decide for political reasons led on by
00:39:41.940 John Dean to break into the Watergate. They make a hash of it. They have to go in twice. James McCord,
00:39:49.620 who is still on the payroll of the CIA, mysteriously disappears for hours at a time during the breakout
00:39:56.740 period. Not very clear where he was. He's the one who ultimately writes to the Watergate burglars
00:40:03.060 judge, John Sirica, uh telling him that there's been a cover-up. Uh we also know, based on a book
00:40:10.100 written by Jeff Shepard, uh that Judge John Sirica, who's the great hero of Watergate, the guy who put
00:40:16.580 so much pressure on the Watergate burglars that he broke the scandal wide open, he was meeting illegally
00:40:22.420 with the Watergate prosecutors repeatedly, ex-partite, uh without knowledge of the Watergate
00:40:28.100 burglars defendant lawyers. He would have been disbarred and removed from the judiciary, uh if
00:40:33.140 that was known at the time. So- Roger, quick, quick break. Pin in there for one second. Be right back.
00:40:39.860 Roger Stone extolling us with the story of Watergate. Roger, we're back. Let's pick up exactly where you were.
00:40:49.140 Uh so in any event, uh I'm glad to see finally the presidency of Richard Nixon getting a re-examination.
00:40:59.140 This is a president who reached a strategic arms limitation with the Soviets, the president who
00:41:04.660 ended the war in Vietnam, the president who ended the military draft, the president who gave us the
00:41:11.380 18-year-old vote, the candidate who launched the war on cancer, uh the candidate who unilaterally,
00:41:18.580 over the objections of uh national security advisor Henry Kissinger uh and the joint chiefs of staff
00:41:26.260 makes the decision to airlift 36 million dollars worth of lethal aid to Israel uh during the 1973
00:41:34.740 Yom Kippur war universally recognized as having saved Israel from total annihilation. Uh this is the
00:41:42.980 the same president who very cleverly decides to snatch China away from Russia at a time that China 0.93
00:41:51.860 is a dirt poor, completely non-technical, agrarian, backward society. So with those who say, oh,
00:41:59.220 China's our great adversary today, it's Nixon's fault. No, Nixon had no way of knowing uh that later,
00:42:06.180 30 years later uh the Bushes and the Clintons would give China most favored nation trading status and
00:42:13.780 Bill Clinton would actually sell them our top military missile targeting secrets through a company
00:42:19.940 called Loral in return for illegal campaign contributions. So uh Nixon basically plays the
00:42:26.820 Chinese and the Russians off against each other. Although they're both communist nations,
00:42:32.100 they have a deep distrust of each other and a long common border. Uh it was genius at the time it was
00:42:38.740 done. There was no way to see uh that China would rise uh thanks to the uh bad decisions of both uh
00:42:46.340 Bush uh and Clinton. So Nixon is beginning, I think, finally. Also, by the way, I should mention,
00:42:52.100 desegregates the public schools uh points more African Americans to federal office than LBJ and JFK
00:42:59.140 combined uh begins the office of minority enterprise uh really is the founder of the concept of black
00:43:07.060 capitalism because a rising tide lifts all boats uh a truly great president uh in retrospect finally
00:43:15.860 getting a re-examination of his actual record whereas prior today when people said Nixon 0.83
00:43:21.940 they people would simply say oh Watergate he's a crook uh and dismiss him. So uh Vivek Ramaswamy 0.58
00:43:29.220 uh has been very articulate on this subject that Nixon's accomplishments as president need to be
00:43:35.540 re-examined uh but the precursor for that, Jack, has to be a re-examination of Watergate. It is a
00:43:43.060 silent coup by the same exact people who tried to take Donald Trump down in the Russian collusion hoax uh
00:43:50.660 and in the two fake impeachments. This is something that's a very important for us as we go forward
00:43:57.300 into the 2024 election, Roger, because I I think more and more and and and look I was on a
00:44:05.060 x spaces with you know no less than Alex Jones to my right and and Elon Musk to my left. I'm not saying
00:44:11.940 that politically speaking I'm just saying we're all there and we're having this discussion about these
00:44:17.700 very same forces Roger these very same forces that seek to throw us into war they seek to put us into
00:44:23.620 war with Russia the same way they wanted war with Russia that Nixon was a backstop against throughout the
00:44:29.140 entire cold war and they are back at it again but now we potentially have the ability to put a populist
00:44:37.060 nationalist in office who understands the power of national sovereignty understands the correct use of
00:44:43.300 American power on the international stage and Roger it is those very same forces that pushed out Nixon
00:44:50.340 and Watergate that took out JFK through other means that are now allied against Trump. That's exactly right
00:44:59.060 and as I said earlier Nixon could not have survived in 1973 largely because there was no alternative news
00:45:06.740 platform that is today the internet so there was no platform for which he could successfully launch a
00:45:13.700 counter-attack. Trump could never have been elected in 2016 without a vibrant and wide open fair free
00:45:22.500 internet that's I will I will say that that that human events had just gotten started but they weren't
00:45:29.940 quite big enough yet we're trying to rectify that now well actually if you look go back and look at it
00:45:36.420 human events was one of the few uh national outlets that defended Nixon throughout Watergate and we were
00:45:43.300 proud to do so still but but it was but it was uh you know it was a it was a conventional newspaper
00:45:49.300 there was no internet those who recognize uh what that the legalization and the establishment of the
00:45:57.060 internet led to the election of Trump have been trying to put the toothpaste back in the tube ever since
00:46:03.380 that's why we've seen this war of censorship first they did it through the social media programs having
00:46:10.100 the Department of Homeland Security and the FBI work directly with executives at Twitter Facebook Instagram
00:46:17.540 uh Google and elsewhere uh to silence people like you and I and Alex Jones and many many others
00:46:25.700 uh but now that Elon who I think is a great hero uh and a man who's really changed the course of
00:46:32.180 history uh has exposed all of that what do they do they move above the social media companies
00:46:39.940 to attempt through the FCC to control the internet at its source so the Biden administration has put
00:46:47.460 forward regulations uh that would allow them to censor in the name of equity uh at the source of the
00:46:55.460 internet so this is the very reason they want to turn this off they want to take us down Roger
00:47:01.060 Stone and an incredible story an incredible tale the truth and by the way I would also say the fact
00:47:07.780 that you have lived in politics in this political life for so long and survived everything they have thrown
00:47:15.140 at you is just proving the age-old saying that the only reason that Roger has survived this long is because
00:47:22.900 as they say you cannot get blood from a stone a man is not finished uh when he's defeated he is only
00:47:31.780 finished when he quits amen Roger where can people go to follow you to get your book on this and all the
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00:47:52.500 my book on the kennedy assassination or my book stone's rules with an introduction by my friend
00:47:57.940 tucker carlson or your very own roger stone did nothing wrong t-shirt but jack thanks for having
00:48:03.620 me and thanks for giving me the opportunity to correct the historical record of what really
00:48:09.380 happened in watergate well roger oliver wild once said it is the goal and the duty of truth tellers to
00:48:16.500 rewrite history and that is what we are doing rewriting false history with the truth about
00:48:22.260 watergate ladies and gentlemen as always you have my permission to lay ashore