Human Events Daily with Jack Posobiec - EPISODE 664： LAWLESS DC COURT DENIES TRUMP PRESIDENTIAL IMMUNITY FOR J6, GOES TO SUPREME COURT

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00:00:48.880 Deliver us from evil.

00:00:50.460 The border.

00:00:50.940 I mean, we're looking every day at the invasion of migrants, and they're playing a time game 1.00

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00:01:33.160 El Salvador's president won re-election, claiming about 80% of the vote.

00:01:37.020 President Nayam Buleke was the heavy favorite to win another five-year term.

00:01:42.600 The president has ardent support.

00:01:44.620 There's a very large group of people in the country that feel left out.

00:01:48.240 They're quite angry about that.

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00:02:00.200 This week, the Supreme Court will hear oral arguments in Donald Trump's ballot eligibility

00:02:04.460 appeal.

00:02:05.140 The justices will review the decision of the Colorado Supreme Court, which ruled against

00:02:09.720 the former president in December, citing the 14th Amendment's insurrectionist ban.

00:02:14.140 Formal challenges to Trump's candidacy has been filed in at least 35 states.

00:02:19.120 After Judge Chutkin ordered that Donald Trump did not have presidential immunity and that

00:02:24.360 the federal charges of election interference would go forward against him.

00:02:28.100 Then three weeks ago, his team went before that three-judge panel, the appeals court, and

00:02:34.000 laid out their case as to why the charges against him should be dismissed.

00:02:38.740 Three weeks later, we have that decision from the appeals court in which they affirm Judge

00:02:43.520 Chutkin's decision and say that Donald Trump does not have presidential immunity.

00:02:49.460 Ladies and gentlemen, welcome aboard today's edition of Human Events Daily, live from Washington,

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00:02:55.040 Today is February 6, 2024, Anno Domini.

00:02:58.780 President Trump does not have presidential immunity.

00:03:04.000 I'm reading through this ruling from the D.C.

00:03:06.840 panel.

00:03:07.960 And the D.C.

00:03:08.800 appeals court, and this is a court that is a Democrat-controlled appeals court.

00:03:12.820 It's an area particularly where Democrats like to choose their future Supreme Court justices

00:03:18.680 from.

00:03:19.500 And so they'll put basically who they think are the top Democrats, the top legal minds of

00:03:24.260 the Democrat left, in order to sort of get them ready for the Supreme Court.

00:03:29.600 The decision that came down here is patently insane.

00:03:34.060 It's actually, it defies all logic.

00:03:36.580 It is completely lawless.

00:03:38.860 And I'll walk you through, I'll walk you through the wording of it because it's incredible.

00:03:46.300 It says that for the purpose of this criminal case, former President Trump has become citizen

00:03:53.980 Trump, former President Trump has become citizen Trump for the purpose of this case.

00:04:00.440 So let me walk through that for a little bit.

00:04:04.360 It's saying that because the case was charged after he left the presidency, therefore presidential

00:04:12.480 immunity no longer applies.

00:04:14.120 It says, okay, but that's not how that works.

00:04:18.920 On January 6th, Donald Trump was the duly elected, sworn in president of the United States,

00:04:28.900 of these United States.

00:04:31.500 He remained president throughout all of January 6th.

00:04:34.800 In fact, he remained president until Biden was sworn in on January 20th, 14 days later.

00:04:40.400 And so for this court to simply unilaterally determine that he was citizen Trump on that

00:04:51.860 day, it flies in the face of the law.

00:04:54.220 It flies in the face of our constitution.

00:04:55.780 It flies in the face of our traditions.

00:04:57.620 It flies in the face of every single act of every other presidency until this one, the 45th.

00:05:04.380 And why do you ask?

00:05:07.360 Why do you ask they're doing this?

00:05:08.620 It's quite simple.

00:05:10.020 Because communists don't actually believe in the things they say they believe in.

00:05:15.680 They only believe in destroying their enemies and tearing down the things that other people

00:05:22.480 have built.

00:05:24.780 Communists only are animated by envy of those who are successful.

00:05:30.080 Envy of those who have actually achieved something in the real world.

00:05:34.960 Envy of those who are better looking, who are better sounding, who are better speakers,

00:05:41.840 who are better businessmen, who are better statesmen.

00:05:45.700 Our economy was better.

00:05:47.400 Our world was better.

00:05:48.600 And they hated him for this.

00:05:51.120 They didn't like his demeanor.

00:05:53.160 They didn't like his tweets.

00:05:55.060 And so they've just decided the constitution, the law, it doesn't apply.

00:05:58.040 And guess what, boys and girls, the constitution is just a piece of paper.

00:06:02.800 If the judges you have in office decide they don't believe it.

00:06:08.340 Gavin Wax joins us next to talk more about this incredible ruling, which will, by the

00:06:13.340 way, go to the Supreme Court.

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00:09:02.260 But what's not fantastic is this insane ruling that's come down here.

00:09:05.740 Gavin Wax joins us from the New York Young Republicans.

00:09:08.640 Gavin, you're also the author of The Emerging Populist Majority.

00:09:13.320 I want to get into that in a second here.

00:09:15.060 But as you look at this presidential immunity ruling, you know, a lot stands out here.

00:09:20.260 But, you know, I've sort of flippantly thrown out are any Republican AGs going to step up

00:09:25.500 and indict Joe Biden because that means we can just indict anyone right now under the

00:09:29.560 current federal guideline on this.

00:09:32.600 But Gavin, why is it that presidential immunity is actually something that's been part of our

00:09:38.000 constitutional system since the beginning?

00:09:41.020 Yeah, absolutely.

00:09:41.580 Look, I think you're alluding to it and the views that I hold that the immunity is already

00:09:46.120 baked into the Constitution.

00:09:47.900 And this latest ruling just is a spit in the face, spitting in the face of the Constitution,

00:09:53.640 spitting on it, spitting on the tradition that has guided this country for the last few centuries.

00:09:59.520 And unfortunately, we've really entered into a period of our country's history where this

00:10:03.980 sort of weaponized judicial system, these weaponized courts and federal prosecutors are being

00:10:09.940 allowed to run amok and go after their political opponents with complete, you know, impunity.

00:10:16.660 And as a result of that, we're seeing this sort of division.

00:10:19.620 We're seeing this sort of chaos.

00:10:21.220 We're seeing this all play out in real time as they're waging this legal war against President

00:10:28.260 Trump for the crime of being popular and being most likely to win the upcoming 2024 election.

00:10:34.980 But you also make a great point that if the Democrats are going to set this precedent,

00:10:39.400 if they are going to set this new standard in terms of how we conduct ourselves politically,

00:10:45.500 then the Republicans should grow a backbone and say, fine, we'll meet you on the field that

00:10:50.740 you've chosen to meet us on.

00:10:52.100 And that is now open legal warfare.

00:10:54.860 So they want to fling indictments.

00:10:56.240 We should fling 10 times more indictments back at them.

00:10:59.080 They want to, you know, prosecute and try and imprison their political opponents.

00:11:03.800 All right, well, we control a lot of attorney general positions across the country.

00:11:07.360 We control many state governments, many trifecta governments in these red states.

00:11:11.880 We should use all the political power available to us to wage a similar counteroffensive against

00:11:18.240 the Democrats and their politicians and elected officials, Joe Biden being one of them.

00:11:25.400 And, you know, what would work well in our favor is that many of these Democrats are actually 0.85

00:11:28.680 corrupt and crooked and are actually guilty of many crimes and are walking felonies.

00:11:34.000 As far as I'm concerned, they just simply have never been treated equally under the law.

00:11:38.300 So we can, you know, say that we're simply applying the law equally for the first time

00:11:42.940 and, you know, wage the necessary type of political warfare that needs to be waged if we're going

00:11:48.640 to play for keeps and play to win.

00:11:50.220 But I don't see that happening.

00:11:51.320 And hopefully this goes to SCOTUS.

00:11:53.400 Hopefully SCOTUS finds the courage to make the correct ruling and knock this nonsense

00:11:58.700 off before it's too late.

00:12:00.460 But if they don't have the courage, then we need to find it elsewhere and we should be

00:12:04.040 prepared to fight.

00:12:06.280 Gavin, why is it that, you know, these Democrats are willing so much to use political lawfare

00:12:14.400 to use this to achieve their ends?

00:12:16.880 And I was actually having this discussion with a mutual friend of ours who will remain

00:12:20.380 nameless for the time being because it was a private conversation and I just don't roll

00:12:24.080 that way.

00:12:24.560 But, you know, we were talking about how these Democrats, the left, communists, whatever

00:12:30.800 you want to call it, their sole animating purpose is envy of things that other people have built.

00:12:39.300 And so their sole animating purpose, therefore, their locus of, you know, the source of their

00:12:44.400 power, I guess you could say, isn't so much the hope for actually doing something good for

00:12:49.240 their country.

00:12:49.800 It's hatred of the people who are currently in power.

00:12:53.760 You see this when it comes to them wanting to obviously tear down our statues as the most

00:12:58.780 obvious symbol of this and the iconoclasm that they have for anyone who goes through

00:13:03.900 our past, particularly any white members of the, you know, who built this country, which 0.92

00:13:09.340 of course includes pretty much every single one of the founding fathers, all of our great

00:13:13.360 founding leaders up to Teddy Roosevelt, who was taken down in New York City.

00:13:17.360 But there's something really that strikes at this where they'll tell you they love, they

00:13:22.140 love the people that they're just operating up.

00:13:24.300 No, you're not.

00:13:25.620 You can go to any one of those houses that has hate has no home here, right?

00:13:30.220 That's on the ubiquitous sign that's out front.

00:13:32.600 And you walk up to them and say, knock, knock.

00:13:34.380 Hi, I'm a Trump supporter.

00:13:35.700 And they'll start screeching at you.

00:13:37.620 Those people are not animated by love.

00:13:39.940 They're animated by hate.

00:13:41.120 They're animated by envy.

00:13:42.520 They do not have our nation and our civilization's best interests at heart.

00:13:47.080 And I can't find any better example of this than what's going on in your city right now

00:13:51.880 of New York.

00:13:53.260 No, absolutely, Jack.

00:13:54.740 Look, hate is a powerful emotion.

00:13:56.680 You know, I'm waiting for the Saxon to learn to hate or the Republican to learn to hate. 0.69

00:14:00.900 I think this is an emotion that maybe we need a little bit more of now.

00:14:04.180 There's a lot to be angry about.

00:14:05.420 There's a lot to hate.

00:14:06.200 There's a lot to be resentful about with the state of our institutions, the state of our country,

00:14:10.600 the state of our political elites.

00:14:13.080 And I think now is a time for passion.

00:14:15.780 I think now it's a time for rage.

00:14:17.880 And I think for far too long, Republicans have been governed by this sort of milquetoast,

00:14:23.540 weak and ineffective political class, you know, embodied by, you know, individuals like

00:14:29.080 Langford out of Oklahoma.

00:14:30.340 These guys have never found a fight that they could win.

00:14:34.260 Walking physiognomy check, by the way.

00:14:37.360 Senator Langford is a walking physiognomy check.

00:14:40.420 Never fails.

00:14:40.820 Exactly.

00:14:41.240 But he's and he's representative of a huge chunk of the ruling establishment of the Republican

00:14:46.700 Party.

00:14:47.260 Many Republican elected officials from the local state to federal level have the same kind

00:14:52.400 of vision and outlook and, you know, temperament as a Langford.

00:14:56.380 You know, the surrender caucus.

00:14:57.560 They're ready to give in.

00:14:58.720 They're ready to cede ground.

00:15:00.080 They're ready to hand over the narrative to the left.

00:15:02.380 And they're not willing to fight for anything.

00:15:04.560 Maybe they're their own bottom line, if they're at least selling out.

00:15:08.080 But some of them are not even that savvy.

00:15:09.420 Some of them are just bullied. 0.92

00:15:10.560 I can at least have respect for someone who is just corrupt. 0.86

00:15:13.880 Right.

00:15:14.060 I can at least have a little bit of grudging respect to say, all right, well, you're just 1.00

00:15:17.500 corrupt. 0.98

00:15:17.860 You're just making money. 0.96

00:15:19.060 Right.

00:15:19.280 You're lying in your pockets.

00:15:20.340 Fine.

00:15:20.640 I can understand that.

00:15:21.800 Right.

00:15:21.960 I can I can have a little bit of that.

00:15:24.180 But these guys, I'm telling you, man, and I wish because you understand how D.C. works.

00:15:28.920 I've been here a long time as well, that these guys actually believe the things they're saying.

00:15:34.240 Langford, a guy, by the way, who walked out there, put this whole thing together, and then

00:15:38.720 it totally crapped the bed.

00:15:40.160 And then Mitch McConnell himself stabbed his own guy in the back and then ordered the caucus 0.78

00:15:46.520 to vote against the bill that he's his own guy had been negotiating.

00:15:52.160 This has to be said when you when you talk about the emerging populist majority, though,

00:15:56.440 and just real quick before we go to the break here, we got two minutes that this is incredible.

00:16:01.520 The Patriots of America stood up to this bill and just using social media and being able

00:16:07.680 to call in programs like Human Events, War Room, Charlie Kirk and others.

00:16:11.680 We defeated this thing, didn't we?

00:16:14.100 Oh, absolutely.

00:16:14.920 We all need to use every weapon at our disposal, and that includes bullying, shaming and demoralizing 0.87

00:16:20.740 these midwits and smashing them into submission, you know, flood their office with phone calls, 0.96

00:16:25.500 with hate mail, you know, ratio their posts, you know, heckle them whenever you can. 0.99

00:16:30.420 I mean, they really need to be scared. 1.00

00:16:32.540 And I think for far too long, these establishment hacks, many of whom are incredibly stupid, 1.00

00:16:37.100 by the way, many of them have never feared the base. 1.00

00:16:40.780 They've never feared their constituents.

00:16:42.020 And I think if we show them that we're angry, if we show them that they need to fear us far

00:16:46.800 more than they fear Chuck Schumer or whoever else they're taking orders from, then maybe

00:16:50.600 we can bend them to our will and get them actually to operate and effectuate on the electoral

00:16:56.500 mandates that won them their office to begin with.

00:16:58.740 In many cases, they made many promises to their voters and they delivered on none of

00:17:02.580 them.

00:17:02.880 So I think now is a time to really show our rage and really beat them into submission

00:17:07.880 and let them know that if they want to hold their office, if they want to represent Republicans

00:17:12.040 in a deep red state like Oklahoma in this instance, then they better act like a deep

00:17:17.040 red state Republican and conservative and vote accordingly.

00:17:19.820 And if they don't, their political career will be over and they'll be ridiculed and mocked

00:17:23.860 relentlessly in every media that we can find.

00:17:26.660 And they'll have no political future to speak of.

00:17:29.860 Yeah, I want this guy.

00:17:31.700 I want this guy, Langford, to send him down to like the Joe Exotic Zoo and trap him in

00:17:36.100 one of those cages.

00:17:37.000 And then we can I don't know if Exotic is still around, but he might be in jail.

00:17:40.540 But put him in one of those cages and we can just go laugh and mock him as we go by on

00:17:45.760 the roadside.

00:17:46.720 And we could you know, we could toss him some of some of the scraps from like the Walmart

00:17:49.500 meat when they're not using it anymore, just to just to keep him going, just to make him

00:17:53.060 sure, make sure that he's there.

00:17:54.140 And then we will continue.

00:17:55.960 We will continue this type of treatment for every single one of these establishment hacks

00:18:00.860 that does not do the will of the base.

00:18:04.760 It's as simple as that.

00:18:05.600 But this will go to the Supreme Court.

00:18:07.380 The Supreme Court will have their say.

00:18:09.020 This will not go to trial before the 2024 election.

00:18:12.180 But again, this this case, these establishment hacks need to learn righteous anger, righteous

00:18:18.380 indignation, as Andrew Breitbart taught us.

00:18:21.440 Stay tuned.

00:18:21.840 Human events.

00:18:22.220 You like a lot more.

00:18:26.160 So they talk about influences.

00:18:28.120 These are influences and they're friends of mine.

00:18:32.400 Jack.

00:18:33.180 So like where's Jack?

00:18:34.540 Jack.

00:18:35.600 He's got a great job.

00:18:40.380 All right, Jack Kosovic, we are back here live.

00:18:43.360 Just a couple of other points that I want to make on this.

00:18:45.900 So, by the way, Mitch, Mitch is essentially saying he's he's declaring surrender right now.

00:18:51.200 So they're they've completely backed down.

00:18:54.180 People understand this is the Chamber of Commerce.

00:18:56.320 This is the Club for Growth.

00:18:57.820 This is so many individuals that were lined up against us.

00:19:02.000 They have they've all backed down.

00:19:04.440 Trump came in and I said, look, essentially, he took that bill, drug it out into the street

00:19:09.280 and shot it in the head with his post with looking at this thing.

00:19:13.800 And really, anybody else out there who was looking at this, there's a question for this.

00:19:16.980 Remember, they're calling Tucker Carlson a traitor because we've got the clip in a minute.

00:19:21.280 So he just officially announced that he will be interviewing Vladimir Putin.

00:19:24.740 The interview will be coming out.

00:19:25.680 He's also requested an interview with Zelensky.

00:19:29.640 But and listen to this, but they're also saying that. 0.91

00:19:33.560 So Tucker is a traitor for doing that. 0.94

00:19:36.460 But oh, no, no, no.

00:19:38.220 You're not a traitor for aiding and abetting the invasion of the United States.

00:19:42.600 Yeah, I don't think so.

00:19:43.360 It's not going to fly.

00:19:44.780 And and Gavin, by the way, just we've got to give a huge shout out to the president's

00:19:48.040 legal team here, because what they're essentially doing, their strategy of pushing these things,

00:19:53.920 challenging every single inch, not giving them an inch, challenging every single line

00:19:59.780 of these statements in these cases, these novel legal theories.

00:20:03.740 It looks like it's going to win the day because I've had a lot of people pointing out that

00:20:07.200 there's no way that this thing goes to trial before the election, because this will go to

00:20:11.940 the Supreme Court and the Supreme Court does not move quickly, nor should they.

00:20:15.080 No, absolutely.

00:20:15.440 I think time is the key, the key focus here.

00:20:19.000 And timing is everything in in a traditional legal fight, but certainly something as radical

00:20:24.840 and as important as and as, you know, fundamental as this fight that the president is facing.

00:20:30.600 So I think their strategy of really dragging this out, fighting every line, every every

00:20:35.120 sentence, every word and pushing back wherever they can is paying off dividends and pushing

00:20:41.060 a lot of these cases back as far back as they can go is really the name of the

00:20:45.260 game here.

00:20:45.780 And ultimately, we're going to hope that the Supreme Court finds the courage to rule in

00:20:50.740 the correct and proper way.

00:20:52.720 Hopefully they do.

00:20:53.880 But otherwise, our fallback, you know, strategy here is to push it past the election.

00:20:58.900 And once you're in power, we can deal with it from there.

00:21:01.720 But right now, getting him back to where he rightfully belongs in the Oval Office, in the

00:21:06.180 White House.

00:21:06.960 That's the first and foremost priority.

00:21:10.040 And everything else right now is an obstacle to that.

00:21:12.540 It's a distraction needs to be dealt with accordingly.

00:21:15.100 And I think they're doing just that.

00:21:16.600 I think he's had a series of legal victories overall, if we look at this at the macro level.

00:21:21.520 And I think that's only going to continue to happen as these cases and trials and litigations

00:21:27.140 continue to develop.

00:21:28.200 Yeah, moving into the situation that I just mentioned about the traitor Tucker and Sebastian

00:21:34.940 Gorka, by the way, is out there labor labeling Tucker Carlson, a traitor for holding an interview

00:21:41.320 with Vladimir Putin.

00:21:42.020 I don't understand why Sebastian Gorka, who also attacked reporting on the connection between

00:21:48.420 the FBI training materials and the pipe bombs, would be attacking, you know, waging this attack

00:21:53.940 on Tucker Carlson for conducting an interview with the world leader.

00:21:57.040 I think Tucker should interview all the world leaders, by the way.

00:21:59.980 We've got Tucker's clip.

00:22:01.340 Without further ado, Gavin, let's check it out.

00:22:03.620 We'll leave, guys, let's leave the mics open so that we can react in real time.

00:22:08.320 We're in Moscow tonight.

00:22:09.880 We're here to interview the president of Russia, Vladimir Putin.

00:22:12.860 We'll be doing that soon.

00:22:14.700 There are risks to conducting an interview like this, obviously.

00:22:18.220 So we've thought about it carefully over many months.

00:22:21.260 Here's why we're doing it.

00:22:22.940 First, because it's our job.

00:22:24.680 We're in journalism.

00:22:25.440 Our duty is to inform people.

00:22:28.960 Two years into a war that's reshaping the entire world, most Americans are not informed.

00:22:34.680 They have no real idea what's happening in this region, here in Russia or 600 miles away

00:22:39.880 in Ukraine.

00:22:41.160 But they should know.

00:22:42.540 They're paying for much of it in ways they might not fully yet perceive.

00:22:47.300 The war in Ukraine is a human disaster.

00:22:49.620 It's left hundreds of thousands of people dead, an entire generation of young Ukrainians, 0.99

00:22:55.000 and it's depopulated the largest country in Europe.

00:22:58.780 But the long-term effects are even more profound.

00:23:02.540 This war has utterly reshaped the global military and trade alliances, and the sanctions that

00:23:08.780 followed have as well, and in total, they have upended the world economy.

00:23:13.740 The post-World War II economic order, a system that guaranteed prosperity in the West for

00:23:18.560 more than 80 years, is coming apart very fast, and along with it, the dominance of the U.S.

00:23:23.580 dollar.

00:23:23.840 These are not small changes.

00:23:26.440 They are history-altering developments.

00:23:29.160 They will define the lives of our grandchildren.

00:23:32.000 Most of the world understands this perfectly well.

00:23:33.800 They can see it.

00:23:34.900 Ask anyone in Asia or the Middle East what the future looks like.

00:23:39.400 And yet the populations of the English-speaking countries seem mostly unaware.

00:23:43.740 They think that as nothing has really changed, and they think that because no one has told

00:23:48.460 them the truth.

00:23:49.860 Their media outlets are corrupt.

00:23:51.700 They lie to their readers and viewers, and they do that mostly by omission.

00:23:57.420 For example, since the day the war in Ukraine began, American media outlets have spoken to

00:24:01.680 scores of people from Ukraine, and they have done scores of interviews with Ukrainian President

00:24:07.580 Zelensky.

00:24:08.720 We ourselves have put in a request for an interview with Zelensky, and we hope he accepts.

00:24:12.460 Wow.

00:24:13.040 But the interviews he's already done in the United States are not traditional interviews.

00:24:16.280 They are fawning pep sessions specifically designed to amplify Zelensky's demand that

00:24:22.120 the U.S. enter more deeply into a war in Eastern Europe and pay for it.

00:24:27.240 That is not journalism.

00:24:28.680 It is government propaganda. 0.98

00:24:30.740 Propaganda of the ugliest kind, the kind that kills people.

00:24:34.640 At the same time our politicians and media outlets have been doing this. 0.65

00:24:38.240 He just flipped the script.

00:24:38.840 Promoting a foreign leader like he's a new consumer brand.

00:24:41.060 Not a single Western journalist has bothered to interview the president of the other country

00:24:45.700 involved in this conflict, Vladimir Putin.

00:24:49.320 Most Americans have no idea why Putin invaded Ukraine or what his goals are now.

00:24:53.680 They've never heard his voice.

00:24:55.420 That's wrong.

00:24:56.540 It's true.

00:24:57.140 Americans have a right to know all they can about a war they're implicated in, and we

00:25:01.540 have the right to tell them about it because we are Americans too.

00:25:05.300 Freedom of speech is our birthright.

00:25:07.440 We were born with the right to say what we believe.

00:25:09.700 That right cannot be taken away no matter who is in the White House.

00:25:14.520 But they're trying anyway.

00:25:16.320 Almost three years ago the Biden administration illegally spied on our text messages and then

00:25:21.100 leaked the contents to their servants in the news media.

00:25:23.860 They did this in order to stop a Putin interview that we were planning.

00:25:27.300 Last month we're pretty certain they did exactly the same thing once again.

00:25:31.240 But this time we came to Moscow anyway.

00:25:34.600 We are not here because we love Vladimir Putin.

00:25:37.140 We are here because we love the United States and we want it to remain prosperous and free.

00:25:43.840 We paid for this trip ourselves.

00:25:45.360 We took no money from any government or group, nor are we charging people to see the interview.

00:25:49.800 It is not behind a paywall.

00:25:51.820 Anyone can watch the entire thing, shot live to tape and unedited, on our website, TuckerCarlson.com.

00:25:57.840 Could have made so much money off this.

00:25:59.140 Elon Musk, his great credit, has promised not to suppress or block this interview once

00:26:03.840 we post it on his platform, X, and we're grateful for that.

00:26:07.800 Western governments, by contrast, will certainly do their best to censor this video on other

00:26:12.580 less principled platforms because that's what they do.

00:26:16.040 They are afraid of information they can't control.

00:26:18.360 People will find clips of it and take it out of context.

00:26:22.060 We are not encouraging you to agree with what Putin may say in this interview, but we are

00:26:26.740 urging you to watch it.

00:26:28.380 You should know as much as you can.

00:26:30.660 And then, like a free citizen and not a slave, you can decide for yourself.

00:26:35.880 Thanks.

00:26:36.260 This is like, this is like when you're talking to somebody who's been just totally, it's

00:26:43.260 okay.

00:26:43.840 I'll tell you what it's like, Kevin.

00:26:44.940 It's like when you're talking to someone who's in like a buddy, who's in a bad relationship

00:26:48.540 and you're like, okay, she's been lying to you the whole time.

00:26:53.560 She's cheating on you. 1.00

00:26:55.640 We've seen her out around town.

00:26:58.340 You're like, no, uh, no.

00:27:00.060 Uh, and your buddy's like, she would never do that, man.

00:27:02.660 She told me it's like, I, she has another phone.

00:27:06.440 She's lying to you.

00:27:07.680 But the guy is just like, so enamored with her that they won't listen.

00:27:13.000 This is exactly like what Tucker is doing right now.

00:27:15.680 You know, and it's, it's like, you know, maybe Ukraine isn't everything that we've been

00:27:20.480 told.

00:27:20.980 Maybe Zelensky isn't this perfect individual.

00:27:23.760 I love how we flipped the script on there too, where he was like, it was like, you know,

00:27:28.140 he was, he was sort of talking, he didn't say it, but he was like, well, you're accusing

00:27:30.780 me of being state propaganda, but you guys have been doing state propaganda for Zelensky

00:27:36.800 for two years.

00:27:38.020 And nobody even asked this guy hard questions.

00:27:40.120 How are you going to win?

00:27:41.820 How are you going to defeat Russia in winter? 0.75

00:27:44.300 How are you going to do that when nobody else has, which by the way, you know, uh, many,

00:27:49.140 many armies, including by the way, general Napoleon, the greatest general in probably world

00:27:55.140 history, wasn't able to do so.

00:27:57.220 He got, he burned Moscow down, but he wasn't able to defeat Russia, but Zelensky can do 0.86

00:28:02.220 this.

00:28:02.480 Please explain to us how it's, and he, you know, he flips the entire script on it and

00:28:06.000 says, you know, essentially you guys are the ones doing the propaganda.

00:28:09.460 I've just got to go do an interview.

00:28:10.820 My goodness.

00:28:11.620 What's your take?

00:28:12.160 Right.

00:28:12.520 Well, listen, I think when, when we're living in a, in an era of lies, uh, surrounded by

00:28:17.400 propaganda and, uh, all this narrative formation, when you finally see a real journalist doing

00:28:23.200 real journalism, asking tough questions, interviewing controversial people, all of a sudden, uh, all

00:28:29.200 of these sheep who have been, you know, led astray for all this time, uh, by our institutions

00:28:34.020 are finally, you know, gasping at the idea that someone would run contrary to the narrative

00:28:38.900 that they've been spoon fed.

00:28:40.020 And I think that's what we're seeing.

00:28:40.860 We're seeing this sort of knee jerk reaction.

00:28:42.660 I mean, we're seeing all this hysterics, uh, from the usual suspects.

00:28:45.620 I mean, none of these people were calling any of the, uh, past, uh, journalists who have

00:28:50.180 interviewed Vladimir Putin over the years, traitors, you know, Chris Wallace, I remember

00:28:53.940 interviewed Vladimir Putin.

00:28:55.420 I mean, he has been interviewed before by many mainstream networks.

00:28:58.640 I think now, uh, more than ever, we deserve to hear, uh, what the leader of Russia has to

00:29:03.580 say about this world changing conflict, the conflict that has brought us closer to the

00:29:07.560 verge of nuclear war at any point since the cold war.

00:29:10.500 One of the largest conflicts in continental Europe where hundreds of thousands of people

00:29:14.540 have died fighting in literal trench warfare in the east of Ukraine, uh, for what, for nothing.

00:29:19.660 I mean, I, I watched, uh, Putin's speech when he originally launched this, you know,

00:29:23.960 special military operation against Ukraine.

00:29:26.220 I was curious.

00:29:27.140 I wanted to see what his views were, what his perspective was.

00:29:30.380 That doesn't mean I support everything Russia does. 0.81

00:29:32.340 That doesn't mean I support everything that Putin does.

00:29:34.540 That just means that I'm actually, you know, trying to get an independent sense of what's

00:29:38.220 happening.

00:29:38.420 We try to understand why these things are happening in our world.

00:29:41.640 I watched Xi Jinping speeches in Chinese to try to understand his mind, to try to understand

00:29:45.980 where he's coming from.

00:29:46.960 When Putin gave that speech and I had Tanya sitting next to me and, and she was live

00:29:51.380 translating it for me, uh, as he was going, it was late at night in a U S time.

00:29:56.160 And we just happened to be up and I said, you were drinking white Russians. 0.98

00:29:58.680 She was, she was giving, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.

00:30:02.040 And, uh, you know, you know, I've got my, my live in translator there and I said, Hey,

00:30:06.660 what's he talking about?

00:30:07.520 And she's like, Hey, he's talking about history.

00:30:09.100 He's going through a lot of this, uh, you know, breakup of the Soviet union.

00:30:12.100 He's getting, he's getting into a lot of these, these thorny issues, um, that we in

00:30:16.920 the West just sort of gloss over.

00:30:18.600 And we're like, Oh, this stuff doesn't matter.

00:30:20.500 Well, it matters to them.

00:30:21.880 Right.

00:30:22.140 If it matters to them enough, then maybe we should try.

00:30:26.140 Try to understand, uh, state to, we're going to come right back because all of this ties

00:30:30.200 back to the 60 billion that they were trying to put into the border bill.

00:30:33.800 And we are going to explain how connecting the dots when we come back human events daily.

00:30:40.920 Where is Jack?

00:30:43.240 Where is Jack?

00:30:45.560 Where is he?

00:30:46.840 Jack, I want to see you.

00:30:50.460 Great job, Jack.

00:30:51.920 Thank you.

00:30:52.680 What a job you do.

00:30:54.080 You know, we have an incredible thing.

00:30:55.280 We're always talking about the fake news and the bad, but we have guys and these are the

00:30:59.940 guys who should be getting policies.

00:31:03.940 Jack back here, live human events daily, going through this announcement by Tucker that he

00:31:09.660 will be interviewing Vladimir Putin.

00:31:12.380 Uh, we know that we've seen a flurry of activity, uh, from Tucker's, uh, convoy, maybe getting

00:31:18.280 some going in and out of the Kremlin, maybe getting some materials together, maybe getting

00:31:22.740 some equipment together.

00:31:23.840 When you do an interview like this, obviously there's security concerns.

00:31:27.040 Um, particularly when I've done events with president Trump, you know, when you bring cameras

00:31:31.940 in, we know that, um, you know, you've got to, and, and by the way, I was at the, um,

00:31:37.380 funny enough, I was at the, uh, the meeting, uh, the summit of president Trump and president

00:31:43.240 Putin in Helsinki, Finland at the presidential palace there when, when they held that meeting

00:31:47.800 and there was so much security there.

00:31:50.140 Um, they check all the equipment, all the cameras that are going through, of course,

00:31:53.740 are from the Russian side.

00:31:54.640 And, and by the way, any presidential world leader is going to have something like that.

00:31:57.640 I think it's silly that, that people think that this is some, you know, special situation.

00:32:02.240 No, if you're going to be interview, any president, you're going to have to go through multiple

00:32:05.380 layers of security, multiple levels of that.

00:32:07.240 They're going to check the equipment, but, but Gavin, this, this really strikes to me

00:32:11.480 on, on a number of levels, because of course, this was an interview that Fox News didn't

00:32:15.300 want to happen.

00:32:16.300 Um, when they had the possibility to sit down with Putin, I believe it was on the sidelines

00:32:21.360 of that Helsinki interview.

00:32:22.860 They sent Chris Wallace.

00:32:23.860 They didn't send Tucker Carlson, uh, Chris Wallace was, you know, making some, some claims

00:32:28.460 to Putin.

00:32:29.460 Putin was coming back and, you know, all these accusations hurling.

00:32:31.980 I had no actual interest of trying to understand what that was, or actually, I correct you.

00:32:35.160 I believe that was actually a little bit later, the, the Chris Wallace interview, it just comes

00:32:38.580 to me.

00:32:39.580 But, you know, why is it that the United States, that so many people don't want to hear an

00:32:46.480 alternate point of view on us actions and particularly on the us system?

00:32:53.340 Um, you know, some of the things that Tucker pointed out there, I think are going to be,

00:32:57.900 I think we're going to be hard truths, hard truth that people need to realize that

00:33:01.240 the United States is no longer looked at as the leader of the world, that the United States

00:33:05.420 is particularly in foreign policy looked at as a bully.

00:33:09.020 And this is why you're seeing these trading blocks like bricks, um, like these currencies

00:33:13.800 that are outside of the dollar that people are looking to move then.

00:33:17.760 And by the way, the Saudis just joined bricks, Iran just joined bricks, pretty much all of 0.99

00:33:22.100 OPEC is getting in on bricks.

00:33:23.680 So we have to understand guys, the world is starting to leave us behind while we're cracking

00:33:30.000 down and screaming at everybody who doesn't listen to us. 0.59

00:33:33.280 And oh, by the way, you know, if you don't like it, well, we're going to bomb you. 0.97

00:33:37.440 We're going to regime change your next door neighbor to try to get at you next. 1.00

00:33:40.980 Uh, you know, why is it such a danger, Gavin, to simply sit down and have an interview with

00:33:46.160 somebody?

00:33:47.160 Well, it's just because we're, we're in such a fragile, uh, we're such a fragile state

00:33:52.460 that the narrative is so weak that the propaganda is not as effective as it once was.

00:33:56.700 And, uh, our position in the world, uh, has never been weaker.

00:33:59.600 I mean, we are no longer living in the era of Pax Americana of a unipolar world order that

00:34:05.060 we found ourselves in, uh, in the early nineties, after the collapse of the Soviet union, we didn't

00:34:09.400 do much with that, uh, uni hyper power status.

00:34:12.400 We squandered it within 20 years, you know, flooding our country with illegals, uh, offshoring 1.00

00:34:17.220 all our jobs and destroying everything that, uh, prior generations of Americans had built 0.92

00:34:22.080 up over generations and decades.

00:34:24.180 Uh, so unfortunately we really didn't use, uh, our time in the sun, uh, very wisely.

00:34:29.640 And now, uh, that entire world order that dates back in some cases all the way back to 1945

00:34:35.240 is completely collapsing.

00:34:36.880 Tucker, uh, referenced this.

00:34:38.500 You have talked about this, uh, and many people are not comfortable with that.

00:34:42.240 Many peoples and their entire livelihoods are based on perpetuating, uh, these lies and

00:34:47.840 falsehoods, this very juvenile, childish black and white view of the world without any nuance

00:34:53.440 or the good guys in the West versus the bad guys in the East and vice versa.

00:34:57.560 It's all very Orwellian.

00:34:59.060 You know, we've always been at war with East Asia, Eurasia, you know, we've always been 1.00

00:35:02.540 at war, yada, yada, yada nonsense.

00:35:04.240 At the end of the day, uh, we need to understand that we're living in a multipolar world order

00:35:08.220 with many great powers that have their own great power interests.

00:35:11.300 They have their own national security, uh, and strategic interests at stake, and they're

00:35:15.820 going to operate and act accordingly.

00:35:17.180 And the United States needs to understand that due to our leaders' neglect, we are no longer

00:35:22.400 in a position where we can effectively dictate the terms of every conflict and every dispute

00:35:28.120 across the world.

00:35:28.980 I mean, we're seeing it, uh, unfold in, in, in the blood soaked fields of, of the Eastern

00:35:34.120 Ukraine and the Donbass, where an entire generation of young Ukrainians have died in a, in a grand

00:35:39.260 delaying action, a delaying action for nothing for the inevitable, which is going to be effectively

00:35:44.220 the depopulation of, of formerly the largest country in Europe, uh, with an entire young 1.00

00:35:49.060 generation completely wiped out.

00:35:50.860 And eventually Russia is just going to move in and take more land, gain more strategic depth

00:35:55.100 and get everything they wanted out of Ukraine.

00:35:57.240 And we've got nothing to show for it besides depleted munitions, depleted stocks of arsenals

00:36:02.320 and a much more weakened and fractured world because of the sanctions and the trade blocks

00:36:06.740 and all the rest.

00:36:07.360 So the Western, uh, diplomatic rules-based consensus in Brussels and London and DC has failed miserably.

00:36:14.340 It's produced nothing besides conflict, war, destruction, uh, and destitution, uh, for millions.

00:36:21.020 And, uh, we're no better off because of it.

00:36:22.960 We're weaker than we ever have been in Russia and the broader, you know, global South or

00:36:27.460 anti-Western bloc has never been stronger and more ascendant.

00:36:30.920 And if you're supposedly against that, well, maybe you should revisit your, uh, strategies

00:36:34.860 because they failed, uh, in epic proportions.

00:36:37.160 And right now I think we need, uh, an understanding of real geopolitical, geopolitics, real politic.

00:36:42.780 We need to get adults back in charge who are, who understand how diplomacy works and how

00:36:48.080 to actually achieve, uh, our national interest at the negotiating table, rather than just

00:36:53.400 children who are throwing temper tantrums and expending lives and treasure that we don't

00:36:57.980 have, uh, because they want to get their way.

00:37:00.540 And that's effectively what we've seen happening, uh, from Kiev to Washington.

00:37:03.940 And, uh, the sooner this war ends, the better the world will be.

00:37:07.080 And I think part of that, part of achieving peace is going to come to the realization that

00:37:11.720 the Russians have interests that they're going to fight for.

00:37:14.280 The Russians have a position that they're willing to stand on.

00:37:17.740 Uh, and they're in a position to do so.

00:37:19.620 They're a nuclear power.

00:37:20.580 They're a great power.

00:37:21.540 And, uh, they're no longer the Russia of 1994.

00:37:24.560 And, uh, we have people in the state department and we have people in DC who don't get that.

00:37:29.180 You know, if I always point it out to people this way, if the country of Mexico

00:37:35.660 entered into a military alliance with China and the Chinese communist party was claiming

00:37:43.100 that they were going to start stationing Chinese bases along the Southern border, and we're

00:37:49.860 even talking about potentially bringing missile sites into Mexico, then you know what I'd be

00:37:55.760 doing?

00:37:56.360 I'd be going to Washington DC or I'd be in front of this microphone right now saying we

00:38:00.220 need to invade Mexico immediately before that happens. 0.94

00:38:03.640 We need to knock this insane government out of Mexico before that happens. 0.98

00:38:08.540 And, you know, this would, of course, you know, if, if all diplomatic efforts had failed

00:38:11.960 and if everything else would fit and then, oh, by the way, let's say that we found out

00:38:15.940 that actually China had instituted a, uh, a coup in Mexico and taken over their government

00:38:23.520 and Chinese operatives or Chinese selected handpicked operatives, puppets, maybe, I don't 0.72

00:38:28.780 know, former actors, former, uh, telenovela stars become the, the leaders of, uh, or, you

00:38:36.000 know, leaders of Mexico as Manchurian candidates, you know, we would be saying the exact same

00:38:41.140 thing.

00:38:41.520 And you know what?

00:38:42.220 So would any other serious great power if that was going on on their borders, because

00:38:47.500 we would know it was a threat to the United States.

00:38:50.180 The same way, by the way, Red Dawn specifically talked about this scenario.

00:38:53.320 Of course, at that time it was the Soviet union.

00:38:55.400 So the idea that a serious country would not look at a military alliance growing on its 0.95

00:39:02.020 own borders as a threat, it's patently ridiculous. 0.99

00:39:05.020 It's just patently ridiculous. 0.95

00:39:06.580 And it's only because we've become so enamored with this view that we are the, the rules 0.94

00:39:12.480 based world order.

00:39:13.580 And we're, we're just the good guys.

00:39:15.240 And anytime we do something, it's good and the world should let us do it.

00:39:18.520 And anytime the bad guys do the exact same thing, well, they're bad and evil, even though

00:39:22.240 it's the same thing as us last minute and a half, Gavin, tell us how, how does this drive

00:39:27.820 the emerging populist majority that you talk about in your book?

00:39:31.780 Well, absolutely.

00:39:32.800 Listen, populism is, is a fight against the elites and the elites are completely out of

00:39:36.740 touch.

00:39:37.060 They're, they're, they're drunk on their own, on their own power.

00:39:40.160 And they've really had no challenge in recent history to their excesses and their failings,

00:39:45.960 particularly in the foreign policy arena.

00:39:47.640 And we have, uh, as a country have bled and spent, uh, you know, trillions of dollars of,

00:39:53.220 of, of, of our, uh, of our national, uh, economy and everything we've produced overseas for nothing.

00:39:58.740 Uh, it's been wasted away in the deserts of Iraq and, and the, and the hills of Afghanistan

00:40:03.620 for nothing.

00:40:04.340 And now we're being asked, uh, to hand over even more money to a corrupt, uh, and dictatorial

00:40:09.560 regime in Kiev fighting a war that really isn't our fight, uh, with no strategic goal, uh,

00:40:14.880 that can actually be articulated and, uh, Americans are only becoming more poor because of it.

00:40:19.520 We're only becoming more destitute because of it.

00:40:21.840 And it's only adding to all the societal ailments that the elites have allowed, uh, to run, 0.57

00:40:26.780 uh, a mock in our country. 0.56

00:40:28.640 And that's why it's so ridiculous that we're supposed to be so aggrieved and so angry with

00:40:33.320 Russia and the border between Russia and Ukraine when our own border is open.

00:40:36.960 We're supposed to be so angry about things when we sell land across our own military bases

00:40:41.140 domestically to the Chinese.

00:40:42.540 So we're, we have the American people are seeing what the elites are doing.

00:40:45.620 It makes no sense.

00:40:46.620 We have no country over here, but we're fighting like nationalists over there.

00:40:50.740 And, uh, it just goes to show that this populist Gavin wax, you've seen him in Rolling Stone

00:40:55.220 magazine head of the New York young Republicans.

00:40:58.480 Stay tuned.

00:40:59.600 Human events daily has some more coming for you next.

00:41:04.820 I'm always listening to human events with Jack was so big.

00:41:08.000 All right, Jack, so we're back live human events daily final segment.

00:41:12.680 So I walked through, I did a surprise hit on Alex Jones earlier with Michael Yon and I've

00:41:19.000 walked through what's going on right now in Europe.

00:41:21.760 And as Tucker goes to interview Putin, we should look at the phase of the Ukraine war that we're

00:41:28.820 currently in because we're currently in, in one sense, we're in the end stage, but we're

00:41:33.740 also in a very dangerous moment when it comes to this war.

00:41:38.300 And let me explain what's happening through the map of guys.

00:41:41.820 So as you can see, um, this, these layers, these areas of Ukraine that have been taken

00:41:48.360 by Putin that have been taken by Russia in this military conflict, uh, annexed, uh, many

00:41:53.380 of which have been in essentially a de facto civil war with Ukraine, uh, for many years,

00:41:58.760 going all the way back to 2014 have really been locked.

00:42:02.840 And of course the Ukrainian military is just not, it's not faring well, uh, this become

00:42:07.200 a war of attrition.

00:42:08.360 This has been a situation where they know, right?

00:42:11.400 The fundamentals of this have never changed.

00:42:13.200 Recall this, your feelings on the war itself, the, the Ukraine was never going to be able

00:42:17.080 to win this war simply because of the fact that the Ukrainian military is nowhere near

00:42:20.740 the size of the Russian military.

00:42:22.060 It was always in their best interest to come to a negotiated settlement, which apparently

00:42:27.720 they did at the end of March of 2022, almost a full two years ago.

00:42:34.640 Now, and we're coming up on the two year anniversary of the war itself.

00:42:39.920 The Russians knew this, the Ukrainians knew this, but apparently the Americans and the

00:42:44.480 collective West and NATO knew this, but just didn't care.

00:42:47.240 And so what did they say?

00:42:48.460 They say, no, keep going.

00:42:49.600 You can win this thing and we can collapse Russia's government the way that Russia wanted 0.75

00:42:54.380 to collapse your government, or at least bring you to the negotiating table.

00:42:58.100 Uh, of course the Russian government did not collapse despite the sanctions, despite all

00:43:02.040 the attempts to do so.

00:43:04.080 Putin has often thrown out of office and, you know, I'm sure Tucker Carlson will tell us

00:43:08.200 whether or not Putin appears to have a cancer and all these other outlandish things that

00:43:12.700 the, um, that the Daily Mail and New York Post have been claiming.

00:43:16.860 But here's what's going on.

00:43:19.600 Vicky Newland was just over in Ukraine about a week ago.

00:43:24.140 Victoria Newland is the person who is intrinsically connected to the Maidan coup a decade ago,

00:43:32.000 10 years ago this month in Maidan Kiev.

00:43:35.440 Maidan Square is the main square of Kiev.

00:43:37.380 And so who did she put in charge? 0.99

00:43:39.940 She put in charge people that were loyal to the European Union, who were loyal to Brussels,

00:43:46.180 who were loyal to globalism.

00:43:48.320 Victoria Newland is someone who has a familial hatred of Russia, but they don't actually hate

00:43:55.900 the system of Russia because her family were the Trotskyite side, the Trotskyites who were

00:44:01.080 kicked out when Stalin won in the 1930s.

00:44:03.640 And so the neocons, and it's not just her, but all of the neocons have had this, and her family's

00:44:09.200 from the Odessa region, and all of the neocons have had this anger towards Russia since then

00:44:16.360 because their side were, again, they were the Trotskyites who were kicked out.

00:44:20.120 It's not any, you know, they don't have any issue with communism or Russianism or any of

00:44:26.780 these different things.

00:44:27.680 It's a blood feud that you're looking at here.

00:44:31.060 And so they have an irrational hatred towards Russia, which is why they're pushing any government

00:44:37.520 to conduct irrational moves towards Russia, like the stuff that we're seeing right now,

00:44:43.120 urging these people to their deaths.

00:44:45.380 Hundreds of thousands of Ukrainians have died in this.

00:44:47.740 They're sending women over now, by the way, to the front lines in Ukraine.

00:44:51.160 That's how bad things have gotten.

00:44:52.700 And remember, of course, as I said two years ago when I was there, it is the Ukrainian people

00:44:57.800 who are the greatest victims of this, right?

00:45:01.320 The Ukrainian people who are caught in the middle. 0.99

00:45:04.200 The Ukrainian people, the families, the good people who don't deserve what's going on there. 0.93

00:45:08.780 But so, and if you can show the map up again, I can walk through what's happening here.

00:45:12.340 So remember what's going on in Syria.

00:45:14.820 And when we showed you the Syria map, we pointed out that U.S. bases were located in the northeast

00:45:21.080 where the Kurds were and then along the south of where the border with Iraq was.

00:45:25.120 What you're going to see next is the Syrianization of Ukraine. 0.99

00:45:29.320 What does this mean?

00:45:30.240 That you will see forces, now it'll be flipped.

00:45:32.340 So in western Ukraine, that's where you're going to see forces come in, most likely from

00:45:37.480 Poland, possibly some from Sweden as well.

00:45:39.720 Sweden, of course, has a lot of historic anger towards Russia from the northern war from several

00:45:44.320 hundred years ago.

00:45:45.640 Poland, of course, has a lot of recent history with Russia, a lot of recent reasons to not

00:45:52.660 be too big fans of the Russians.

00:45:54.980 But what you're going to instead see, instead of U.S. troops going, although Chuck Schumer

00:46:00.520 has already been threatening this, he was threatening it yesterday that you'd see U.S.

00:46:04.760 troops, so maybe we'll see them.

00:46:06.280 But what I think is more likely is that you'll see NATO troops led by Poland coming in to stabilize

00:46:11.620 western Ukraine.

00:46:12.820 You'll see a split west Ukraine, east Ukraine, just like we saw during the Cold War where there

00:46:17.140 was the split of Germany, west Germany, east Germany.

00:46:20.100 Then you'll get what?

00:46:21.640 That DMZ, the Berlin Wall, that Putin's already talked about establishing a DMZ.

00:46:26.740 We don't know exactly where that's going to be, but most likely it's going to be along

00:46:30.240 that Dnepra River that splits Ukraine down the middle.

00:46:33.120 Then you're going to have a situation where what's the big thing going on in Ukraine?

00:46:37.500 Well, Vicky Newland is there.

00:46:40.120 Zelensky is saying we've been told that he's going to be firing the head of the Ukrainian

00:46:44.800 military.

00:46:45.480 Very popular guy, Slyushni.

00:46:47.880 But who's he going to replace him with?

00:46:49.220 Well, it seems that he's going to replace him with this guy, Budanov.

00:46:53.200 Budanov's a young guy.

00:46:54.100 He's the same age as me.

00:46:55.420 He's a former intelligence officer and someone who's deeply steeped in special operations.

00:47:01.160 What we're talking about is Operation Gladio 2.0 style operations that would be conducted

00:47:07.320 in the Russian backfield as well as provocations being done to people in the west.

00:47:13.180 What do I mean by this?

00:47:14.680 Operation Gladio was the CIA leave-behind networks during the Cold War that were

00:47:19.000 set up to conduct attacks, terrorist attacks against civilians, and then blame them on

00:47:23.240 the Soviet Union.

00:47:24.420 Well, you're going to see the very same thing going on in Ukraine.

00:47:26.920 They're going to blame it on Russia.

00:47:28.040 Then you're going to see more terrorist attacks, covert attacks in Russia.

00:47:32.300 Remember, this guy, Budanov, same guy who was behind the attack on the Kurt Strait Bridge

00:47:36.380 where they blew up a truck driver and murdered him in cold blood in order to take the bridge.

00:47:42.300 And I think it was only down, like one lane of the bridge was down for a couple of days.

00:47:46.120 Like that was the worst of it.

00:47:47.160 That was the extent of it.

00:47:47.920 And they murdered a guy in cold blood as well as a bunch of people who were just driving

00:47:51.360 on the bridge.

00:47:52.060 So you're going to see these civilian attacks.

00:47:53.760 That's what the $60 billion is for, because they're moving this thing to a counterinsurgency,

00:47:59.100 or I should say, they're moving it to an insurgency.

00:48:01.700 They want to funnel this the same way that the United States was behind the rise of the

00:48:06.920 Mujahideen in Afghanistan.

00:48:08.100 They're going back to Charlie Wilson's war kind of stuff like they did in Afghanistan during

00:48:13.360 the 1980 war against the Soviet Union.

00:48:15.620 These guys only have one playbook, and they keep doing it over and over.

00:48:20.520 That's why we've still got Americans in Syria. 0.84

00:48:22.880 And oh, by the way, they're going to hope, they're going to hope that some poor NATO soldier

00:48:28.280 or a couple of them get killed, just like our three soldiers got killed at Tower 22.

00:48:32.400 So then they can blame it on Russia because they want to use them as human meat shields to

00:48:36.940 start World War III.

00:48:39.080 This is the struggle that we're in.

00:48:40.740 This is the animating contest that we're in.

00:48:42.900 Do you want to go to war or do you want to save the world, save America, shut down our 0.97

00:48:48.180 border and actually fix this country?

00:48:50.520 If you want to do so, you might as well get behind Donald J. Trump.

00:48:54.600 Ladies and gentlemen, as always, you have my permission to lay ashore.

Human Events Daily with Jack Posobiec - February 06, 2024

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