EPISODE 664： LAWLESS DC COURT DENIES TRUMP PRESIDENTIAL IMMUNITY FOR J6, GOES TO SUPREME COURT
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The Supreme Court will hear oral arguments this week in the case of Donald Trump's challenge to the ruling by the Colorado Supreme Court affirming that President Trump does not have presidential immunity. President Trump's lawyers argue that because the case was brought after he left the presidency, presidential immunity no longer applies.
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This week, the Supreme Court will hear oral arguments in Donald Trump's ballot eligibility
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The justices will review the decision of the Colorado Supreme Court, which ruled against
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the former president in December, citing the 14th Amendment's insurrectionist ban.
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Formal challenges to Trump's candidacy has been filed in at least 35 states.
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After Judge Chutkin ordered that Donald Trump did not have presidential immunity and that
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the federal charges of election interference would go forward against him.
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Then three weeks ago, his team went before that three-judge panel, the appeals court, and
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laid out their case as to why the charges against him should be dismissed.
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Three weeks later, we have that decision from the appeals court in which they affirm Judge
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Chutkin's decision and say that Donald Trump does not have presidential immunity.
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Ladies and gentlemen, welcome aboard today's edition of Human Events Daily, live from Washington,
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President Trump does not have presidential immunity.
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appeals court, and this is a court that is a Democrat-controlled appeals court.
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It's an area particularly where Democrats like to choose their future Supreme Court justices
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And so they'll put basically who they think are the top Democrats, the top legal minds of
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the Democrat left, in order to sort of get them ready for the Supreme Court.
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The decision that came down here is patently insane.
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And I'll walk you through, I'll walk you through the wording of it because it's incredible.
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It says that for the purpose of this criminal case, former President Trump has become citizen
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Trump, former President Trump has become citizen Trump for the purpose of this case.
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It's saying that because the case was charged after he left the presidency, therefore presidential
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On January 6th, Donald Trump was the duly elected, sworn in president of the United States,
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He remained president throughout all of January 6th.
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In fact, he remained president until Biden was sworn in on January 20th, 14 days later.
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And so for this court to simply unilaterally determine that he was citizen Trump on that
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It flies in the face of every single act of every other presidency until this one, the 45th.
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Because communists don't actually believe in the things they say they believe in.
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They only believe in destroying their enemies and tearing down the things that other people
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Communists only are animated by envy of those who are successful.
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Envy of those who have actually achieved something in the real world.
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Envy of those who are better looking, who are better sounding, who are better speakers,
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who are better businessmen, who are better statesmen.
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And so they've just decided the constitution, the law, it doesn't apply.
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And guess what, boys and girls, the constitution is just a piece of paper.
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If the judges you have in office decide they don't believe it.
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Gavin Wax joins us next to talk more about this incredible ruling, which will, by the
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But what's not fantastic is this insane ruling that's come down here.
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Gavin Wax joins us from the New York Young Republicans.
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Gavin, you're also the author of The Emerging Populist Majority.
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But as you look at this presidential immunity ruling, you know, a lot stands out here.
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But, you know, I've sort of flippantly thrown out are any Republican AGs going to step up
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and indict Joe Biden because that means we can just indict anyone right now under the
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But Gavin, why is it that presidential immunity is actually something that's been part of our
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Look, I think you're alluding to it and the views that I hold that the immunity is already
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And this latest ruling just is a spit in the face, spitting in the face of the Constitution,
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spitting on it, spitting on the tradition that has guided this country for the last few centuries.
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And unfortunately, we've really entered into a period of our country's history where this
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sort of weaponized judicial system, these weaponized courts and federal prosecutors are being
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allowed to run amok and go after their political opponents with complete, you know, impunity.
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And as a result of that, we're seeing this sort of division.
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We're seeing this all play out in real time as they're waging this legal war against President
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Trump for the crime of being popular and being most likely to win the upcoming 2024 election.
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But you also make a great point that if the Democrats are going to set this precedent,
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if they are going to set this new standard in terms of how we conduct ourselves politically,
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then the Republicans should grow a backbone and say, fine, we'll meet you on the field that
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We should fling 10 times more indictments back at them.
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They want to, you know, prosecute and try and imprison their political opponents.
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All right, well, we control a lot of attorney general positions across the country.
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We control many state governments, many trifecta governments in these red states.
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We should use all the political power available to us to wage a similar counteroffensive against
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the Democrats and their politicians and elected officials, Joe Biden being one of them.
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And, you know, what would work well in our favor is that many of these Democrats are actually
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corrupt and crooked and are actually guilty of many crimes and are walking felonies.
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As far as I'm concerned, they just simply have never been treated equally under the law.
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So we can, you know, say that we're simply applying the law equally for the first time
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and, you know, wage the necessary type of political warfare that needs to be waged if we're going
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Hopefully SCOTUS finds the courage to make the correct ruling and knock this nonsense
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But if they don't have the courage, then we need to find it elsewhere and we should be
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Gavin, why is it that, you know, these Democrats are willing so much to use political lawfare
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And I was actually having this discussion with a mutual friend of ours who will remain
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nameless for the time being because it was a private conversation and I just don't roll
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But, you know, we were talking about how these Democrats, the left, communists, whatever
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you want to call it, their sole animating purpose is envy of things that other people have built.
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And so their sole animating purpose, therefore, their locus of, you know, the source of their
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power, I guess you could say, isn't so much the hope for actually doing something good for
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It's hatred of the people who are currently in power.
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You see this when it comes to them wanting to obviously tear down our statues as the most
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obvious symbol of this and the iconoclasm that they have for anyone who goes through
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our past, particularly any white members of the, you know, who built this country, which
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of course includes pretty much every single one of the founding fathers, all of our great
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founding leaders up to Teddy Roosevelt, who was taken down in New York City.
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But there's something really that strikes at this where they'll tell you they love, they
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love the people that they're just operating up.
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You can go to any one of those houses that has hate has no home here, right?
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That's on the ubiquitous sign that's out front.
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They do not have our nation and our civilization's best interests at heart.
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And I can't find any better example of this than what's going on in your city right now
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You know, I'm waiting for the Saxon to learn to hate or the Republican to learn to hate.
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I think this is an emotion that maybe we need a little bit more of now.
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There's a lot to be resentful about with the state of our institutions, the state of our country,
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And I think for far too long, Republicans have been governed by this sort of milquetoast,
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weak and ineffective political class, you know, embodied by, you know, individuals like
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These guys have never found a fight that they could win.
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Senator Langford is a walking physiognomy check.
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But he's and he's representative of a huge chunk of the ruling establishment of the Republican
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Many Republican elected officials from the local state to federal level have the same kind
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of vision and outlook and, you know, temperament as a Langford.
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They're ready to hand over the narrative to the left.
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Maybe they're their own bottom line, if they're at least selling out.
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I can at least have respect for someone who is just corrupt.
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I can at least have a little bit of grudging respect to say, all right, well, you're just
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But these guys, I'm telling you, man, and I wish because you understand how D.C. works.
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I've been here a long time as well, that these guys actually believe the things they're saying.
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Langford, a guy, by the way, who walked out there, put this whole thing together, and then
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And then Mitch McConnell himself stabbed his own guy in the back and then ordered the caucus
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to vote against the bill that he's his own guy had been negotiating.
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This has to be said when you when you talk about the emerging populist majority, though,
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and just real quick before we go to the break here, we got two minutes that this is incredible.
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The Patriots of America stood up to this bill and just using social media and being able
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to call in programs like Human Events, War Room, Charlie Kirk and others.
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We all need to use every weapon at our disposal, and that includes bullying, shaming and demoralizing
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these midwits and smashing them into submission, you know, flood their office with phone calls,
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with hate mail, you know, ratio their posts, you know, heckle them whenever you can.
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And I think for far too long, these establishment hacks, many of whom are incredibly stupid,
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by the way, many of them have never feared the base.
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And I think if we show them that we're angry, if we show them that they need to fear us far
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more than they fear Chuck Schumer or whoever else they're taking orders from, then maybe
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we can bend them to our will and get them actually to operate and effectuate on the electoral
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mandates that won them their office to begin with.
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In many cases, they made many promises to their voters and they delivered on none of
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So I think now is a time to really show our rage and really beat them into submission
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and let them know that if they want to hold their office, if they want to represent Republicans
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in a deep red state like Oklahoma in this instance, then they better act like a deep
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red state Republican and conservative and vote accordingly.
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And if they don't, their political career will be over and they'll be ridiculed and mocked
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And they'll have no political future to speak of.
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I want this guy, Langford, to send him down to like the Joe Exotic Zoo and trap him in
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And then we can I don't know if Exotic is still around, but he might be in jail.
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But put him in one of those cages and we can just go laugh and mock him as we go by on
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And we could you know, we could toss him some of some of the scraps from like the Walmart
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meat when they're not using it anymore, just to just to keep him going, just to make him
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We will continue this type of treatment for every single one of these establishment hacks
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This will not go to trial before the 2024 election.
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But again, this this case, these establishment hacks need to learn righteous anger, righteous
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These are influences and they're friends of mine.
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All right, Jack Kosovic, we are back here live.
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Just a couple of other points that I want to make on this.
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So, by the way, Mitch, Mitch is essentially saying he's he's declaring surrender right now.
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People understand this is the Chamber of Commerce.
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This is so many individuals that were lined up against us.
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Trump came in and I said, look, essentially, he took that bill, drug it out into the street
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and shot it in the head with his post with looking at this thing.
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And really, anybody else out there who was looking at this, there's a question for this.
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Remember, they're calling Tucker Carlson a traitor because we've got the clip in a minute.
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So he just officially announced that he will be interviewing Vladimir Putin.
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He's also requested an interview with Zelensky.
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But and listen to this, but they're also saying that.
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You're not a traitor for aiding and abetting the invasion of the United States.
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And and Gavin, by the way, just we've got to give a huge shout out to the president's
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legal team here, because what they're essentially doing, their strategy of pushing these things,
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challenging every single inch, not giving them an inch, challenging every single line
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of these statements in these cases, these novel legal theories.
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It looks like it's going to win the day because I've had a lot of people pointing out that
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there's no way that this thing goes to trial before the election, because this will go to
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the Supreme Court and the Supreme Court does not move quickly, nor should they.
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And timing is everything in in a traditional legal fight, but certainly something as radical
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and as important as and as, you know, fundamental as this fight that the president is facing.
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So I think their strategy of really dragging this out, fighting every line, every every
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sentence, every word and pushing back wherever they can is paying off dividends and pushing
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a lot of these cases back as far back as they can go is really the name of the
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And ultimately, we're going to hope that the Supreme Court finds the courage to rule in
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But otherwise, our fallback, you know, strategy here is to push it past the election.
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And once you're in power, we can deal with it from there.
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But right now, getting him back to where he rightfully belongs in the Oval Office, in the
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And everything else right now is an obstacle to that.
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It's a distraction needs to be dealt with accordingly.
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I think he's had a series of legal victories overall, if we look at this at the macro level.
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And I think that's only going to continue to happen as these cases and trials and litigations
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Yeah, moving into the situation that I just mentioned about the traitor Tucker and Sebastian
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Gorka, by the way, is out there labor labeling Tucker Carlson, a traitor for holding an interview
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I don't understand why Sebastian Gorka, who also attacked reporting on the connection between
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the FBI training materials and the pipe bombs, would be attacking, you know, waging this attack
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on Tucker Carlson for conducting an interview with the world leader.
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I think Tucker should interview all the world leaders, by the way.
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Without further ado, Gavin, let's check it out.
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We'll leave, guys, let's leave the mics open so that we can react in real time.
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We're here to interview the president of Russia, Vladimir Putin.
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There are risks to conducting an interview like this, obviously.
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So we've thought about it carefully over many months.
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Two years into a war that's reshaping the entire world, most Americans are not informed.
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They have no real idea what's happening in this region, here in Russia or 600 miles away
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They're paying for much of it in ways they might not fully yet perceive.
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It's left hundreds of thousands of people dead, an entire generation of young Ukrainians,
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and it's depopulated the largest country in Europe.
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But the long-term effects are even more profound.
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This war has utterly reshaped the global military and trade alliances, and the sanctions that
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followed have as well, and in total, they have upended the world economy.
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The post-World War II economic order, a system that guaranteed prosperity in the West for
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more than 80 years, is coming apart very fast, and along with it, the dominance of the U.S.
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They will define the lives of our grandchildren.
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Most of the world understands this perfectly well.
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Ask anyone in Asia or the Middle East what the future looks like.
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And yet the populations of the English-speaking countries seem mostly unaware.
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They think that as nothing has really changed, and they think that because no one has told
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They lie to their readers and viewers, and they do that mostly by omission.
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For example, since the day the war in Ukraine began, American media outlets have spoken to
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scores of people from Ukraine, and they have done scores of interviews with Ukrainian President
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We ourselves have put in a request for an interview with Zelensky, and we hope he accepts.
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But the interviews he's already done in the United States are not traditional interviews.
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They are fawning pep sessions specifically designed to amplify Zelensky's demand that
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the U.S. enter more deeply into a war in Eastern Europe and pay for it.
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Propaganda of the ugliest kind, the kind that kills people.
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At the same time our politicians and media outlets have been doing this.
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Promoting a foreign leader like he's a new consumer brand.
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Not a single Western journalist has bothered to interview the president of the other country
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Most Americans have no idea why Putin invaded Ukraine or what his goals are now.
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Americans have a right to know all they can about a war they're implicated in, and we
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have the right to tell them about it because we are Americans too.
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We were born with the right to say what we believe.
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That right cannot be taken away no matter who is in the White House.
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Almost three years ago the Biden administration illegally spied on our text messages and then
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leaked the contents to their servants in the news media.
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They did this in order to stop a Putin interview that we were planning.
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Last month we're pretty certain they did exactly the same thing once again.
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We are not here because we love Vladimir Putin.
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We are here because we love the United States and we want it to remain prosperous and free.
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We took no money from any government or group, nor are we charging people to see the interview.
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Anyone can watch the entire thing, shot live to tape and unedited, on our website, TuckerCarlson.com.
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Elon Musk, his great credit, has promised not to suppress or block this interview once
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we post it on his platform, X, and we're grateful for that.
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Western governments, by contrast, will certainly do their best to censor this video on other
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less principled platforms because that's what they do.
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They are afraid of information they can't control.
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People will find clips of it and take it out of context.
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We are not encouraging you to agree with what Putin may say in this interview, but we are
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And then, like a free citizen and not a slave, you can decide for yourself.
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This is like, this is like when you're talking to somebody who's been just totally, it's
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It's like when you're talking to someone who's in like a buddy, who's in a bad relationship
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and you're like, okay, she's been lying to you the whole time.
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Uh, and your buddy's like, she would never do that, man.
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She told me it's like, I, she has another phone.
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But the guy is just like, so enamored with her that they won't listen.
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This is exactly like what Tucker is doing right now.
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You know, and it's, it's like, you know, maybe Ukraine isn't everything that we've been
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I love how we flipped the script on there too, where he was like, it was like, you know,
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he was, he was sort of talking, he didn't say it, but he was like, well, you're accusing
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me of being state propaganda, but you guys have been doing state propaganda for Zelensky
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How are you going to do that when nobody else has, which by the way, you know, uh, many,
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many armies, including by the way, general Napoleon, the greatest general in probably world
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He got, he burned Moscow down, but he wasn't able to defeat Russia, but Zelensky can do
00:28:02.480
Please explain to us how it's, and he, you know, he flips the entire script on it and
00:28:06.000
says, you know, essentially you guys are the ones doing the propaganda.
00:28:12.520
Well, listen, I think when, when we're living in a, in an era of lies, uh, surrounded by
00:28:17.400
propaganda and, uh, all this narrative formation, when you finally see a real journalist doing
00:28:23.200
real journalism, asking tough questions, interviewing controversial people, all of a sudden, uh, all
00:28:29.200
of these sheep who have been, you know, led astray for all this time, uh, by our institutions
00:28:34.020
are finally, you know, gasping at the idea that someone would run contrary to the narrative
00:28:42.660
I mean, we're seeing all this hysterics, uh, from the usual suspects.
00:28:45.620
I mean, none of these people were calling any of the, uh, past, uh, journalists who have
00:28:50.180
interviewed Vladimir Putin over the years, traitors, you know, Chris Wallace, I remember
00:28:55.420
I mean, he has been interviewed before by many mainstream networks.
00:28:58.640
I think now, uh, more than ever, we deserve to hear, uh, what the leader of Russia has to
00:29:03.580
say about this world changing conflict, the conflict that has brought us closer to the
00:29:07.560
verge of nuclear war at any point since the cold war.
00:29:10.500
One of the largest conflicts in continental Europe where hundreds of thousands of people
00:29:14.540
have died fighting in literal trench warfare in the east of Ukraine, uh, for what, for nothing.
00:29:19.660
I mean, I, I watched, uh, Putin's speech when he originally launched this, you know,
00:29:27.140
I wanted to see what his views were, what his perspective was.
00:29:30.380
That doesn't mean I support everything Russia does.
00:29:32.340
That doesn't mean I support everything that Putin does.
00:29:34.540
That just means that I'm actually, you know, trying to get an independent sense of what's
00:29:38.420
We try to understand why these things are happening in our world.
00:29:41.640
I watched Xi Jinping speeches in Chinese to try to understand his mind, to try to understand
00:29:46.960
When Putin gave that speech and I had Tanya sitting next to me and, and she was live
00:29:51.380
translating it for me, uh, as he was going, it was late at night in a U S time.
00:29:56.160
And we just happened to be up and I said, you were drinking white Russians.
00:29:58.680
She was, she was giving, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.
00:30:02.040
And, uh, you know, you know, I've got my, my live in translator there and I said, Hey,
00:30:07.520
And she's like, Hey, he's talking about history.
00:30:09.100
He's going through a lot of this, uh, you know, breakup of the Soviet union.
00:30:12.100
He's getting, he's getting into a lot of these, these thorny issues, um, that we in
00:30:22.140
If it matters to them enough, then maybe we should try.
00:30:26.140
Try to understand, uh, state to, we're going to come right back because all of this ties
00:30:30.200
back to the 60 billion that they were trying to put into the border bill.
00:30:33.800
And we are going to explain how connecting the dots when we come back human events daily.
00:30:55.280
We're always talking about the fake news and the bad, but we have guys and these are the
00:31:03.940
Jack back here, live human events daily, going through this announcement by Tucker that he
00:31:12.380
Uh, we know that we've seen a flurry of activity, uh, from Tucker's, uh, convoy, maybe getting
00:31:18.280
some going in and out of the Kremlin, maybe getting some materials together, maybe getting
00:31:23.840
When you do an interview like this, obviously there's security concerns.
00:31:27.040
Um, particularly when I've done events with president Trump, you know, when you bring cameras
00:31:31.940
in, we know that, um, you know, you've got to, and, and by the way, I was at the, um,
00:31:37.380
funny enough, I was at the, uh, the meeting, uh, the summit of president Trump and president
00:31:43.240
Putin in Helsinki, Finland at the presidential palace there when, when they held that meeting
00:31:50.140
Um, they check all the equipment, all the cameras that are going through, of course,
00:31:54.640
And, and by the way, any presidential world leader is going to have something like that.
00:31:57.640
I think it's silly that, that people think that this is some, you know, special situation.
00:32:02.240
No, if you're going to be interview, any president, you're going to have to go through multiple
00:32:07.240
They're going to check the equipment, but, but Gavin, this, this really strikes to me
00:32:11.480
on, on a number of levels, because of course, this was an interview that Fox News didn't
00:32:16.300
Um, when they had the possibility to sit down with Putin, I believe it was on the sidelines
00:32:23.860
They didn't send Tucker Carlson, uh, Chris Wallace was, you know, making some, some claims
00:32:29.460
Putin was coming back and, you know, all these accusations hurling.
00:32:31.980
I had no actual interest of trying to understand what that was, or actually, I correct you.
00:32:35.160
I believe that was actually a little bit later, the, the Chris Wallace interview, it just comes
00:32:39.580
But, you know, why is it that the United States, that so many people don't want to hear an
00:32:46.480
alternate point of view on us actions and particularly on the us system?
00:32:53.340
Um, you know, some of the things that Tucker pointed out there, I think are going to be,
00:32:57.900
I think we're going to be hard truths, hard truth that people need to realize that
00:33:01.240
the United States is no longer looked at as the leader of the world, that the United States
00:33:05.420
is particularly in foreign policy looked at as a bully.
00:33:09.020
And this is why you're seeing these trading blocks like bricks, um, like these currencies
00:33:13.800
that are outside of the dollar that people are looking to move then.
00:33:17.760
And by the way, the Saudis just joined bricks, Iran just joined bricks, pretty much all of
00:33:23.680
So we have to understand guys, the world is starting to leave us behind while we're cracking
00:33:30.000
down and screaming at everybody who doesn't listen to us.
00:33:33.280
And oh, by the way, you know, if you don't like it, well, we're going to bomb you.
00:33:37.440
We're going to regime change your next door neighbor to try to get at you next.
00:33:40.980
Uh, you know, why is it such a danger, Gavin, to simply sit down and have an interview with
00:33:47.160
Well, it's just because we're, we're in such a fragile, uh, we're such a fragile state
00:33:52.460
that the narrative is so weak that the propaganda is not as effective as it once was.
00:33:56.700
And, uh, our position in the world, uh, has never been weaker.
00:33:59.600
I mean, we are no longer living in the era of Pax Americana of a unipolar world order that
00:34:05.060
we found ourselves in, uh, in the early nineties, after the collapse of the Soviet union, we didn't
00:34:12.400
We squandered it within 20 years, you know, flooding our country with illegals, uh, offshoring
00:34:17.220
all our jobs and destroying everything that, uh, prior generations of Americans had built
00:34:24.180
Uh, so unfortunately we really didn't use, uh, our time in the sun, uh, very wisely.
00:34:29.640
And now, uh, that entire world order that dates back in some cases all the way back to 1945
00:34:38.500
You have talked about this, uh, and many people are not comfortable with that.
00:34:42.240
Many peoples and their entire livelihoods are based on perpetuating, uh, these lies and
00:34:47.840
falsehoods, this very juvenile, childish black and white view of the world without any nuance
00:34:53.440
or the good guys in the West versus the bad guys in the East and vice versa.
00:34:59.060
You know, we've always been at war with East Asia, Eurasia, you know, we've always been
00:35:04.240
At the end of the day, uh, we need to understand that we're living in a multipolar world order
00:35:08.220
with many great powers that have their own great power interests.
00:35:11.300
They have their own national security, uh, and strategic interests at stake, and they're
00:35:17.180
And the United States needs to understand that due to our leaders' neglect, we are no longer
00:35:22.400
in a position where we can effectively dictate the terms of every conflict and every dispute
00:35:28.980
I mean, we're seeing it, uh, unfold in, in, in the blood soaked fields of, of the Eastern
00:35:34.120
Ukraine and the Donbass, where an entire generation of young Ukrainians have died in a, in a grand
00:35:39.260
delaying action, a delaying action for nothing for the inevitable, which is going to be effectively
00:35:44.220
the depopulation of, of formerly the largest country in Europe, uh, with an entire young
00:35:50.860
And eventually Russia is just going to move in and take more land, gain more strategic depth
00:35:57.240
And we've got nothing to show for it besides depleted munitions, depleted stocks of arsenals
00:36:02.320
and a much more weakened and fractured world because of the sanctions and the trade blocks
00:36:07.360
So the Western, uh, diplomatic rules-based consensus in Brussels and London and DC has failed miserably.
00:36:14.340
It's produced nothing besides conflict, war, destruction, uh, and destitution, uh, for millions.
00:36:22.960
We're weaker than we ever have been in Russia and the broader, you know, global South or
00:36:27.460
anti-Western bloc has never been stronger and more ascendant.
00:36:30.920
And if you're supposedly against that, well, maybe you should revisit your, uh, strategies
00:36:37.160
And right now I think we need, uh, an understanding of real geopolitical, geopolitics, real politic.
00:36:42.780
We need to get adults back in charge who are, who understand how diplomacy works and how
00:36:48.080
to actually achieve, uh, our national interest at the negotiating table, rather than just
00:36:53.400
children who are throwing temper tantrums and expending lives and treasure that we don't
00:37:00.540
And that's effectively what we've seen happening, uh, from Kiev to Washington.
00:37:03.940
And, uh, the sooner this war ends, the better the world will be.
00:37:07.080
And I think part of that, part of achieving peace is going to come to the realization that
00:37:11.720
the Russians have interests that they're going to fight for.
00:37:14.280
The Russians have a position that they're willing to stand on.
00:37:24.560
And, uh, we have people in the state department and we have people in DC who don't get that.
00:37:29.180
You know, if I always point it out to people this way, if the country of Mexico
00:37:35.660
entered into a military alliance with China and the Chinese communist party was claiming
00:37:43.100
that they were going to start stationing Chinese bases along the Southern border, and we're
00:37:49.860
even talking about potentially bringing missile sites into Mexico, then you know what I'd be
00:37:56.360
I'd be going to Washington DC or I'd be in front of this microphone right now saying we
00:38:00.220
need to invade Mexico immediately before that happens.
00:38:03.640
We need to knock this insane government out of Mexico before that happens.
00:38:08.540
And, you know, this would, of course, you know, if, if all diplomatic efforts had failed
00:38:11.960
and if everything else would fit and then, oh, by the way, let's say that we found out
00:38:15.940
that actually China had instituted a, uh, a coup in Mexico and taken over their government
00:38:23.520
and Chinese operatives or Chinese selected handpicked operatives, puppets, maybe, I don't
00:38:28.780
know, former actors, former, uh, telenovela stars become the, the leaders of, uh, or, you
00:38:36.000
know, leaders of Mexico as Manchurian candidates, you know, we would be saying the exact same
00:38:42.220
So would any other serious great power if that was going on on their borders, because
00:38:47.500
we would know it was a threat to the United States.
00:38:50.180
The same way, by the way, Red Dawn specifically talked about this scenario.
00:38:53.320
Of course, at that time it was the Soviet union.
00:38:55.400
So the idea that a serious country would not look at a military alliance growing on its
00:39:02.020
own borders as a threat, it's patently ridiculous.
00:39:06.580
And it's only because we've become so enamored with this view that we are the, the rules
00:39:15.240
And anytime we do something, it's good and the world should let us do it.
00:39:18.520
And anytime the bad guys do the exact same thing, well, they're bad and evil, even though
00:39:22.240
it's the same thing as us last minute and a half, Gavin, tell us how, how does this drive
00:39:27.820
the emerging populist majority that you talk about in your book?
00:39:32.800
Listen, populism is, is a fight against the elites and the elites are completely out of
00:39:37.060
They're, they're, they're drunk on their own, on their own power.
00:39:40.160
And they've really had no challenge in recent history to their excesses and their failings,
00:39:47.640
And we have, uh, as a country have bled and spent, uh, you know, trillions of dollars of,
00:39:53.220
of, of, of our, uh, of our national, uh, economy and everything we've produced overseas for nothing.
00:39:58.740
Uh, it's been wasted away in the deserts of Iraq and, and the, and the hills of Afghanistan
00:40:04.340
And now we're being asked, uh, to hand over even more money to a corrupt, uh, and dictatorial
00:40:09.560
regime in Kiev fighting a war that really isn't our fight, uh, with no strategic goal, uh,
00:40:14.880
that can actually be articulated and, uh, Americans are only becoming more poor because of it.
00:40:19.520
We're only becoming more destitute because of it.
00:40:21.840
And it's only adding to all the societal ailments that the elites have allowed, uh, to run,
00:40:28.640
And that's why it's so ridiculous that we're supposed to be so aggrieved and so angry with
00:40:33.320
Russia and the border between Russia and Ukraine when our own border is open.
00:40:36.960
We're supposed to be so angry about things when we sell land across our own military bases
00:40:42.540
So we're, we have the American people are seeing what the elites are doing.
00:40:46.620
We have no country over here, but we're fighting like nationalists over there.
00:40:50.740
And, uh, it just goes to show that this populist Gavin wax, you've seen him in Rolling Stone
00:40:55.220
magazine head of the New York young Republicans.
00:40:59.600
Human events daily has some more coming for you next.
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I'm always listening to human events with Jack was so big.
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All right, Jack, so we're back live human events daily final segment.
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So I walked through, I did a surprise hit on Alex Jones earlier with Michael Yon and I've
00:41:19.000
walked through what's going on right now in Europe.
00:41:21.760
And as Tucker goes to interview Putin, we should look at the phase of the Ukraine war that we're
00:41:28.820
currently in because we're currently in, in one sense, we're in the end stage, but we're
00:41:33.740
also in a very dangerous moment when it comes to this war.
00:41:38.300
And let me explain what's happening through the map of guys.
00:41:41.820
So as you can see, um, this, these layers, these areas of Ukraine that have been taken
00:41:48.360
by Putin that have been taken by Russia in this military conflict, uh, annexed, uh, many
00:41:53.380
of which have been in essentially a de facto civil war with Ukraine, uh, for many years,
00:41:58.760
going all the way back to 2014 have really been locked.
00:42:02.840
And of course the Ukrainian military is just not, it's not faring well, uh, this become
00:42:08.360
This has been a situation where they know, right?
00:42:13.200
Recall this, your feelings on the war itself, the, the Ukraine was never going to be able
00:42:17.080
to win this war simply because of the fact that the Ukrainian military is nowhere near
00:42:22.060
It was always in their best interest to come to a negotiated settlement, which apparently
00:42:27.720
they did at the end of March of 2022, almost a full two years ago.
00:42:34.640
Now, and we're coming up on the two year anniversary of the war itself.
00:42:39.920
The Russians knew this, the Ukrainians knew this, but apparently the Americans and the
00:42:44.480
collective West and NATO knew this, but just didn't care.
00:42:49.600
You can win this thing and we can collapse Russia's government the way that Russia wanted
00:42:54.380
to collapse your government, or at least bring you to the negotiating table.
00:42:58.100
Uh, of course the Russian government did not collapse despite the sanctions, despite all
00:43:04.080
Putin has often thrown out of office and, you know, I'm sure Tucker Carlson will tell us
00:43:08.200
whether or not Putin appears to have a cancer and all these other outlandish things that
00:43:12.700
the, um, that the Daily Mail and New York Post have been claiming.
00:43:19.600
Vicky Newland was just over in Ukraine about a week ago.
00:43:24.140
Victoria Newland is the person who is intrinsically connected to the Maidan coup a decade ago,
00:43:39.940
She put in charge people that were loyal to the European Union, who were loyal to Brussels,
00:43:48.320
Victoria Newland is someone who has a familial hatred of Russia, but they don't actually hate
00:43:55.900
the system of Russia because her family were the Trotskyite side, the Trotskyites who were
00:44:03.640
And so the neocons, and it's not just her, but all of the neocons have had this, and her family's
00:44:09.200
from the Odessa region, and all of the neocons have had this anger towards Russia since then
00:44:16.360
because their side were, again, they were the Trotskyites who were kicked out.
00:44:20.120
It's not any, you know, they don't have any issue with communism or Russianism or any of
00:44:31.060
And so they have an irrational hatred towards Russia, which is why they're pushing any government
00:44:37.520
to conduct irrational moves towards Russia, like the stuff that we're seeing right now,
00:44:45.380
Hundreds of thousands of Ukrainians have died in this.
00:44:47.740
They're sending women over now, by the way, to the front lines in Ukraine.
00:44:52.700
And remember, of course, as I said two years ago when I was there, it is the Ukrainian people
00:45:01.320
The Ukrainian people who are caught in the middle.
00:45:04.200
The Ukrainian people, the families, the good people who don't deserve what's going on there.
00:45:08.780
But so, and if you can show the map up again, I can walk through what's happening here.
00:45:14.820
And when we showed you the Syria map, we pointed out that U.S. bases were located in the northeast
00:45:21.080
where the Kurds were and then along the south of where the border with Iraq was.
00:45:25.120
What you're going to see next is the Syrianization of Ukraine.
00:45:30.240
That you will see forces, now it'll be flipped.
00:45:32.340
So in western Ukraine, that's where you're going to see forces come in, most likely from
00:45:39.720
Sweden, of course, has a lot of historic anger towards Russia from the northern war from several
00:45:45.640
Poland, of course, has a lot of recent history with Russia, a lot of recent reasons to not
00:45:54.980
But what you're going to instead see, instead of U.S. troops going, although Chuck Schumer
00:46:00.520
has already been threatening this, he was threatening it yesterday that you'd see U.S.
00:46:06.280
But what I think is more likely is that you'll see NATO troops led by Poland coming in to stabilize
00:46:12.820
You'll see a split west Ukraine, east Ukraine, just like we saw during the Cold War where there
00:46:17.140
was the split of Germany, west Germany, east Germany.
00:46:21.640
That DMZ, the Berlin Wall, that Putin's already talked about establishing a DMZ.
00:46:26.740
We don't know exactly where that's going to be, but most likely it's going to be along
00:46:30.240
that Dnepra River that splits Ukraine down the middle.
00:46:33.120
Then you're going to have a situation where what's the big thing going on in Ukraine?
00:46:40.120
Zelensky is saying we've been told that he's going to be firing the head of the Ukrainian
00:46:49.220
Well, it seems that he's going to replace him with this guy, Budanov.
00:46:55.420
He's a former intelligence officer and someone who's deeply steeped in special operations.
00:47:01.160
What we're talking about is Operation Gladio 2.0 style operations that would be conducted
00:47:07.320
in the Russian backfield as well as provocations being done to people in the west.
00:47:14.680
Operation Gladio was the CIA leave-behind networks during the Cold War that were
00:47:19.000
set up to conduct attacks, terrorist attacks against civilians, and then blame them on
00:47:24.420
Well, you're going to see the very same thing going on in Ukraine.
00:47:28.040
Then you're going to see more terrorist attacks, covert attacks in Russia.
00:47:32.300
Remember, this guy, Budanov, same guy who was behind the attack on the Kurt Strait Bridge
00:47:36.380
where they blew up a truck driver and murdered him in cold blood in order to take the bridge.
00:47:42.300
And I think it was only down, like one lane of the bridge was down for a couple of days.
00:47:47.920
And they murdered a guy in cold blood as well as a bunch of people who were just driving
00:47:53.760
That's what the $60 billion is for, because they're moving this thing to a counterinsurgency,
00:47:59.100
or I should say, they're moving it to an insurgency.
00:48:01.700
They want to funnel this the same way that the United States was behind the rise of the
00:48:08.100
They're going back to Charlie Wilson's war kind of stuff like they did in Afghanistan during
00:48:15.620
These guys only have one playbook, and they keep doing it over and over.
00:48:22.880
And oh, by the way, they're going to hope, they're going to hope that some poor NATO soldier
00:48:28.280
or a couple of them get killed, just like our three soldiers got killed at Tower 22.
00:48:32.400
So then they can blame it on Russia because they want to use them as human meat shields to
00:48:42.900
Do you want to go to war or do you want to save the world, save America, shut down our
00:48:50.520
If you want to do so, you might as well get behind Donald J. Trump.
00:48:54.600
Ladies and gentlemen, as always, you have my permission to lay ashore.