Human Events Daily with Jack Posobiec - EPISODE 665： RONNA MCDANIEL TO STEP DOWN, BORDER BILL DOA, PRESIDENTIAL IMMUNITY ON TRIAL

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00:00:33.400 meets fifth generation warfare. A commentator, international social media sensation and former

00:00:44.840 Navy intelligence veteran. This is human events with your host, Jack Posobiec. Deliver us from

00:00:50.600 evil. Jennifer Crumbly, silent and stoic as the jury announced her fate guilty on all

00:00:56.280 four charges. One for each student, her son, Ethan killed in the 2021 Oxford high school

00:01:01.460 shooting. Hamas has come back with a three phased plan, which demands a 135 day ceasefire during

00:01:09.300 which all the hostages would eventually be freed. Israel would withdraw its troops from

00:01:14.520 Gaza and talks would begin to end the war permanently. President Biden has called the

00:01:20.240 proposal a little over the top. Donald Trump wants chaos. Donald Trump does not want success

00:01:26.920 at the border. He wants chaos. And if he became president, I doubt he'd ever solve it. Enjoy

00:01:32.240 the performance that's about to begin. All right. We're going to walk off here and get our performance.

00:01:40.180 Is it time for Mitch McConnell to go? I think it is. A Republican leader should actually lead

00:01:46.820 this conference and should advance the priorities of Republicans. We are here today to authoritatively

00:01:52.700 express that President Trump did not commit an insurrection. And we believe Congress has a unique

00:01:58.480 role in making that declaration. Yeah. I mean, from the president's standpoint, certainly it's concerning

00:02:03.560 to be behind Donald Trump at all. Certainly by five points. That's the largest lead Trump's ever had

00:02:08.840 over Biden in our polling. Starting last June, we had Biden ahead by four. That already was closer

00:02:14.700 than any poll from 2020. And then from there, it went to a tie in the fall. It went to a slight Trump

00:02:20.520 lead in November. And now, as you say, a Trump lead of five points. NBC News projects that Nikki Haley

00:02:25.400 has lost to the option that reads none of these candidates. Former President Trump did not appear

00:02:31.400 on the ballot. Ronna McDaniel Romney, Ronna McDaniel, plans to step down shortly after the South Carolina

00:02:37.340 primary on February 24th and that her exit comes after months of pressure and a campaign from Trump

00:02:44.420 allied forces to unseat her. All right, ladies and gentlemen, welcome aboard today's edition Human

00:02:49.680 Events Daily live from Washington, D.C. Today is February 7th, 2024. Anno, Dominic. A lot going on.

00:02:56.380 Phone blowing up last night with this New York Times story. And I want to give you the story

00:03:02.120 behind the story as much as I can in terms of what happened, when it happened, and how it happens.

00:03:08.400 This New York Times story drops late last night. And I mean, I just got to say my phone turned into a

00:03:13.200 brick. This idea. So Ronna McDaniel, news breaking that she will resign, essentially effectively step down

00:03:20.500 after the South Carolina primary, which is being held on February 24th. It's going to be the last day

00:03:26.160 of CPAC. So you got the middle of CPAC. You got the middle of the South Carolina primary in the

00:03:31.540 primary season where, of course, President Trump is ascended. This all happening on the same day

00:03:36.220 that Mitch McConnell gets humiliated in the Senate, where Nikki Haley gets humiliated in the desert,

00:03:44.980 losing to no one, none of these candidates. Okay, so Nikki Haley gets humiliated. Ronna gets humiliated.

00:03:52.240 Mitch McConnell gets humiliated. Ronna Romney McDaniel, by the way. What's going on here? And I

00:03:58.860 walked this out on War Room. I'll explain it here again. The intrinsic link to all of this

00:04:03.900 is the fact that at the RNC and this disastrous border bill, Nikki Haley, what do they all have in

00:04:13.300 common? And I paraphrased Napoleon earlier this morning. When a government is dependent upon bankers

00:04:22.440 for money, they and not the leaders of the government control the situation since the hand that gives is

00:04:28.960 the is above the hand that takes. Money has no motherland. Financiers are without patriotism and

00:04:37.420 without decency. Their sole object is gain. Understand the uniparty establishment wing

00:04:45.780 of the Republicans got humiliated yesterday. It's losing. It's failing on every front.

00:04:52.960 You've got people in the Senate who understand that there's blood in the water when it comes to

00:04:56.980 the Senate Republican leadership. And oh, by the way, we're in an election year where it looks like

00:05:00.900 Republicans are about to take over the Senate. What does that mean? This might be Mitch McConnell's

00:05:05.580 last year as Senate leader. This might be Nikki Haley's last hurrah going down in her home state,

00:05:12.100 though I don't predict that she will drop out after what is shaping up to be an absolutely

00:05:15.840 humiliating defeat in South Carolina. I want to be very clear. We are the ones in power now. We are.

00:05:24.020 We are the ones who make these decisions. And so when that story dropped about Ronna McDaniel and this

00:05:28.960 guy Watley, who seems to be this guy and Tyler Boyer is talking about this as well, this is Ronna

00:05:33.720 McDaniel's guy. He's the guy that Ronna wants to pick out. So it's interesting that his name is the

00:05:39.900 one that came into the New York Times. So there's a lot of great grassroots picks out there. People

00:05:46.060 are talking about the chairwoman of the Delaware GOP, Julianne Murray. There are other people who are

00:05:51.080 saying Laura Trump should get involved. Tyler Boyer has pointed out that you do need, if you're going to

00:05:55.240 do a male-female, you need to be male-female if you're doing chair, co-chair. But I want to be

00:06:00.400 very clear about this, ladies and gentlemen. We are in control and we own a debt of gratitude

00:06:05.080 to Donald Trump and who came before him, Rush Limbaugh. And I just want to say and make sure

00:06:11.040 that I say this, thank you to Rush Limbaugh from the patriots of this nation. We would not be in this

00:06:17.860 place without what Rush did. Ladies and gentlemen, Terry Lake during this time.

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00:06:53.760 Events with Jack Posobiec. Jack Posobiec back live, Human Events Daily, Washington, D.C. We are proud to

00:07:01.140 be joined once again by the great Terry Lake, who's running for Senate in the wonderful state of Arizona.

00:07:07.300 Terry, walk us through this bill because both of your opponents, including the incumbent,

00:07:14.580 seem to be completely for this bill that absolutely blew apart yesterday. Huge humiliation, by the way,

00:07:21.720 for Senate Republican leadership like Mitch McConnell. Walk us through the tea leaves of how you view this.

00:07:28.960 Well, I view this as the American people dodged a bullet with this disastrous piece of legislation.

00:07:35.200 You know, the way they were talking about it made it sound like they were going to do something really

00:07:38.740 good. They actually did want to secure the border and do something to stop the invasion.

00:07:43.840 And then we started getting little pieces of it dripping out. And we realized this is a boondoggle,

00:07:49.920 a behemoth of a piece of legislation that appeared to not do anything to secure the border. And then when

00:07:56.320 it dropped and we started pouring through the 300 plus pages of this, as I said, debacle,

00:08:02.140 it became very clear. This was just a big fancy way of sending over tens of billions of dollars,

00:08:10.500 $60 billion to Ukraine, $90 billion to kill people in wars overseas and nothing, zero goose egg to

00:08:19.940 actually secure the border. This is a slap in the face to the American people. Kyrsten Sinema,

00:08:25.140 who I'm running against, was one of the architects of it. It makes me realize that she has been spending

00:08:30.620 way too much time in Davos, way too much time in D.C. and New York with the hedge fund managers

00:08:35.860 and not enough time here in Arizona understanding the problem that we have on our border, which is

00:08:41.420 the border is wide open. And Jack, they could have so easily fixed this problem. And it didn't need a

00:08:48.880 piece of legislation. Go back to the policies President Trump had put in place to keep our border

00:08:53.560 secure. And if they wanted to give Biden credit, they could rename those policies instead of remain

00:08:59.800 in Mexico. It could have been Biden's amnesty block bill or something, whatever they needed to do.

00:09:05.980 But they don't want to secure the border. They don't want to solve the problem. Democrats and

00:09:10.760 the Uniparty love to have these huge problems so they can pour billions of dollars into the symptoms

00:09:17.060 forever while never fixing the problem. And that's the beauty of President Trump. He wants to solve the

00:09:22.060 problems so we don't have to waste money pouring it into the symptoms.

00:09:25.840 Well, see, I'm so confused, right? Because, you know, and I'm not an Arizona guy, but I am friends

00:09:32.260 with Charlie. And so he brings me down for Turning Point. We do the events and everything. And when

00:09:37.080 your campaigns were going on, of course, we got to learn a lot about Arizona. I spent a lot more time

00:09:41.860 than I thought that I would ever spend in Arizona, as it turned out. I was there a couple of times for

00:09:45.700 training at Fort Wachuca. And Kyrsten Sinema, this is someone who, just like back in my home state of

00:09:51.840 Pennsylvania, we've got this Democrat named John Fetterman, who's running around acting like he's

00:09:56.200 all Mr. Conservative and Mr. Reasonable. And I'm, yeah, I'm a Democrat, but I'm not like those other

00:10:01.040 Democrats. I'm right down the middle. I care about the border. I care about the people. And this is what

00:10:05.880 they were trying to run with with Sinema as well. And she, I'm going to be an independent. I'm going to be the

00:10:10.080 Miss Maverick and all this. But then to come out for a bill like this, it really just flies in the

00:10:17.380 face of everything that they had been trying to champion. I said, my goodness, this is an incredible

00:10:23.480 gift to Carrie Lake of all people. Well, and you know what? I, it's a stupid bill. It's a, it's a

00:10:31.620 pile of garbage, to be honest. I don't want to even look at it as a gift. I guess if you're just

00:10:36.460 looking for political purposes, yes, you could say that, but this is a serious problem. We do need

00:10:42.220 this problem solved. I know that when we get President Trump back in office, we can solve it.

00:10:46.480 But frankly, we need it solved before then. I was counting on, I was really hoping that they would

00:10:52.340 put something forth that would build the wall, secure the border, and then we can start solving

00:10:57.260 some of the problems with all the 12 million people who've invaded our country, making sure we find

00:11:01.880 them and send them back to their homeland. But there's nothing in the bill for that. It's, it's,

00:11:06.460 you know, $20 billion they said was earmarked toward the border, none of which builds a wall,

00:11:12.780 none of which sends people back to their homeland, repatriates them back to their homeland.

00:11:16.940 And it's $90 billion sent to kill people. The American people don't want 90 billion of our

00:11:23.900 dollars. We don't want any of our money sent to kill people overseas. We want to solve our problems

00:11:28.860 here at home. And so I'm glad that this thing has been, that is tanking because it's disastrous.

00:11:34.280 And it shows you just what an inept leader Kyrsten Sinema has been. She doesn't know how to represent

00:11:41.560 the people of Arizona. This is a reason that she got, you know, booted out of the Democrat party,

00:11:46.220 became an independent because she doesn't have anybody who wants to vote for her. Our latest

00:11:50.680 polling showed that she can get a maximum of 13 or 14% of the vote if she runs. And I think that's why

00:11:57.200 people are wondering if she indeed will even throw her hat in and run again. She, you know,

00:12:02.780 she calls herself independent, Jack, but since becoming independent, she's become even more

00:12:08.200 liberal, voting nearly 100% of the time with Schumer and Joe Biden. So I don't think that sounds very

00:12:15.020 independent to me. No, it doesn't sound very independent at all. In fact, it seems dependent.

00:12:20.600 And I was, I was talking before about sort of the moneyed interests that were clearly behind this

00:12:25.540 bill. And as you say, trying to package all of these foreign expenditures, these wars of adventure

00:12:30.940 in with protecting our sacred and sovereign border, which is completely lawless and out of control.

00:12:38.500 And so it seems to me that the people that are lining up behind this bill, very much like the people

00:12:43.500 that are backing Nikki Haley and others, are people that don't really care about our country and don't

00:12:49.000 really care about its interests. And so when I look at the fact of, of the names that were on this

00:12:54.360 thing, like Langford, like cinema, and really like Mitch McConnell, who very, in a very humiliating

00:13:01.020 fashion had to pull essentially what was one of his bills back and pretty much just sacrifices is his

00:13:09.680 guy Langford there in Oklahoma. Carrie, what does it say about the mood of our nation right now

00:13:14.660 that these guys thought that they had it in the bag? And then in less than 24 hours, it was dead.

00:13:21.380 I mean, the minute the American people saw it, they were, they were aghast. They were appalled by

00:13:26.660 what they were seeing. It shows you that it was never for them in DC about solving this problem and

00:13:34.080 securing the border and stopping the biggest invasion on our homeland that we've ever seen was

00:13:39.680 never about that for them. You know how we know that Jack? Because today they're talking about

00:13:44.660 scrapping the border, any of the border parts of this, and just trying to pass the Ukraine money.

00:13:51.140 This has always been simply about funding Ukraine, funding foreign wars. It's never been about

00:13:57.400 protecting the American people. And thank God people like you are out there, you know, Bannon and Charlie

00:14:04.540 and so many other independent journalists, John Solomon, I could go on and on. There's some great

00:14:08.940 journalists out there who've been out there educating the American people, giving them

00:14:12.800 the straight truth instead of everything filtered through the prism of the, you know, fake news.

00:14:19.000 We're finally getting the facts and the American people are like, oh, hell no. Oh, hell no. We're not

00:14:23.540 going for this. And they're warning anybody who votes for it, you will be primaried and you will be

00:14:28.360 defeated because we are tired of having our treasure, our tax dollars go toward endless wars,

00:14:34.400 killing people around the globe when we have our own problems here at home.

00:14:38.940 I couldn't agree more. And this is a time where, and I, I threw out at the top of the show that,

00:14:45.080 you know, I think that the American people owe a debt of gratitude and some people may not like this

00:14:50.780 when I say it, but they owe a debt of gratitude to the people who are the real pioneers in grassroots

00:14:55.740 media and in grassroots really conservative talk shows. And this is what you're talking about.

00:15:01.100 This conservative alternate media, Rush Limbaugh, Rush Limbaugh was the man who was right there

00:15:07.320 starting in the late 1980s, delivers the Republican majority in 1994, becomes an honorary member.

00:15:13.800 We would not be in this position right now, Kerry, if it was not for Rush Limbaugh and what he did

00:15:19.260 and creating this entire ecosystem. And then of course, Andrew Breitbart, you know, taking what

00:15:25.300 Rush started and then bringing it to the digital forum. When I think of the founders of the new

00:15:30.820 right, you know, I always have to go back and say, it's Rush Limbaugh and Andrew Breitbart.

00:15:35.600 It was our place to go. He was the touchstone. We could go back and every day could just kind of

00:15:40.800 figure out what's going on. And he had a way of, of taking all the information was coming and

00:15:45.320 filtering through it, sorting out the garbage, finding the fact and, and laying it out what their

00:15:51.160 plans were long-term because so much of this has been part of a long-term plan, in my opinion,

00:15:56.300 to destroy this great nation and take down the Republic. We have nine months, Jack, to save it.

00:16:01.780 And I think everyone out there has to be willing to sacrifice literally everything. And we have to

00:16:06.920 think of our founding fathers. I think of Nathan Hale, who was a school teacher back, you know, in 1776.

00:16:14.100 And he went behind enemy, enemy lines and, and became a spy for the Patriots. And, and he became

00:16:20.940 a spy for, for our side and he was captured and they killed him for that. And right before he was

00:16:28.020 hanged, they said, do you have any regrets? He said, my only regret is that I have but one life to give

00:16:33.160 for this country. And I think we all have to have that mindset. This is it. This is nine, eight or nine

00:16:39.120 months left guys. And I think we have to be willing to sort out the BS from the truth, turn off the fake

00:16:45.320 news, focus on making sure we elect the right people into office. And for starts, that is

00:16:51.240 President Donald J. Trump. We got to make sure we win this Senate seat. I need all hands on deck here.

00:16:56.340 There's a lot of disinformation going around, but we're making some big, good plays right now. I mean,

00:17:01.000 I think with Ronna stepping aside, thank you, Ronna, for your service. We're ready to move on with some

00:17:06.660 new leadership and that's going to be great. We're cleaning house here in the Arizona GOP.

00:17:10.900 We recently got rid of somebody who is very unethical and we brought in a woman by the name

00:17:16.360 of Gina Swoboda, who's fantastic and understands the importance of, of election integrity, honest

00:17:22.180 elections, fair elections that we can all have faith in. We're starting to really coalesce around

00:17:27.940 this movement of America first. We have the greatest, biggest, most powerful, exciting, positive

00:17:33.960 political movement that we've ever seen in this country. The Republican Party should be massive

00:17:39.960 and growing. We're bringing young people in. We're bringing people from all different backgrounds

00:17:44.020 in. It's a big tent party and there's no excuse for this party being bankrupt right now. We should

00:17:49.900 have full coffers going into this election and deliver victory for President Trump, for me,

00:17:55.740 for all of the incredible first America first patriots out there and save this country.

00:18:00.860 Kerry, hold that thought because I would like to get into some of that as we go forward. By the way,

00:18:06.060 Nathan Hale, I got to say, you know, in the intel community when I served, we always praised Nathan

00:18:11.580 Hale. That was a guy hung in New York City, Manhattan, New York, when the British were controlling

00:18:16.500 it. He went in when it was under occupation by British forces to find out what was going on and

00:18:22.720 get the word back to Washington. I regret that I have but one life to live to give for my country

00:18:28.720 at 21 years old. Imagine that. Stay tuned. More with Kerry Lake in return.

00:18:36.560 You talk about influences. These are influences and they're friends of mine.

00:18:41.720 Jack, Jack is so like, where's Jack? He's done a great job.

00:18:47.400 All right, Jack is so back to Live Human Events Daily. As we left, Kerry, there was something you

00:18:55.320 said and we're here with Kerry Lake who's running for US Senate in Arizona. So hopefully that Arizona

00:19:00.120 could actually get a one fantastic senator down there that you are saying that we need potentially

00:19:07.700 to do an audit of the RNC's offers.

00:19:11.400 And do you think that's something that's important?

00:19:13.240 Because when I look at, you know,

00:19:14.620 when I talk to my friend, Scott Pressler,

00:19:16.000 who's on this show a lot,

00:19:17.560 and I hear a lot of the other grassroots,

00:19:19.980 obviously we work with Turning Point Action very closely,

00:19:22.260 American First work.

00:19:23.440 It just doesn't seem like there's a lot of connection

00:19:25.560 between the RNC's efforts

00:19:27.460 and the things that people are doing on the ground.

00:19:29.540 And I'm trying to understand why possibly

00:19:31.920 there would be a split like this.

00:19:34.380 Well, I've just heard it recommended

00:19:36.140 that an audit is done.

00:19:37.840 And I think that's just good business practice.

00:19:39.840 You know, every so often, every year or so,

00:19:41.640 or every couple of years, an audit to be done.

00:19:43.440 And I don't understand why

00:19:45.360 with the incredible movement we have,

00:19:47.940 well, actually, I do understand

00:19:49.160 why the RNC is nearly bankrupt

00:19:51.400 because the grassroots and the small donors,

00:19:54.800 which I actually have mainly small donors,

00:19:57.900 real people, you know, donating 20 bucks, 10 bucks, 50 bucks.

00:20:02.040 They don't want to donate to the RNC.

00:20:04.160 They don't see good leadership.

00:20:05.280 They don't see that the RNC is effective anymore.

00:20:09.180 And that's one of the reasons

00:20:10.840 that I think it's nearly bankrupt.

00:20:13.100 So you could ask a lot of questions

00:20:15.300 about the expenditure.

00:20:16.380 Some of it seems to be excessive.

00:20:18.440 I don't want to pass judgment

00:20:19.700 until I know more information.

00:20:21.060 But what I do want to do

00:20:22.280 is right away when we find a new leader,

00:20:25.440 I think we need to, as Republicans,

00:20:27.260 jump behind this person,

00:20:28.940 do everything we can, Jack,

00:20:30.700 to support, lift up, raise up,

00:20:33.420 and make this person

00:20:34.360 the most successful RNC chair.

00:20:36.500 I hope what happens

00:20:37.660 is we don't end up infighting

00:20:40.480 for the next two months

00:20:41.700 before we get behind the person

00:20:43.180 because we're running out of time.

00:20:45.220 The clock is ticking.

00:20:46.200 We're in the fourth quarter right now,

00:20:47.480 in my opinion.

00:20:48.440 And so I hope we find a great person.

00:20:50.360 And just as importantly,

00:20:51.440 we all jump behind that person.

00:20:53.240 I want to help the RNC raise money

00:20:55.720 so that they can move forward.

00:20:57.020 We need them to do work

00:20:58.320 going into this election.

00:20:59.740 It's the most important election

00:21:01.100 in the history of this country.

00:21:03.780 And that's what I hope.

00:21:05.080 And we can also do an audit.

00:21:06.640 That's fine.

00:21:08.080 You know, I don't think we need to,

00:21:09.780 you know, kind of mull over,

00:21:12.400 over and over what maybe Rana did wrong.

00:21:14.820 We've got to move forward and get going.

00:21:16.860 That doesn't mean we can't audit

00:21:18.180 and make that happen.

00:21:19.920 But we really do need to focus

00:21:21.300 on the here and now and the future

00:21:22.980 for the next eight or nine months.

00:21:25.960 Well, Carrie, I wouldn't be doing my job

00:21:27.700 if I didn't ask.

00:21:28.660 Are there any names that you were

00:21:30.220 that you're getting behind?

00:21:31.860 Or is there anyone out there

00:21:32.900 that you think would do a good job at this?

00:21:36.740 Oh, boy.

00:21:37.600 I was on a Twitter spaces last night

00:21:40.040 and a lot of names were mentioned.

00:21:41.860 I, I'm afraid if I mention a name

00:21:44.200 that everyone will say

00:21:44.860 I'm endorsing this person.

00:21:45.940 But I have had the chance

00:21:47.400 to talk to Vivek Ramaswamy.

00:21:49.600 He endorsed me and he's a wonderful guy.

00:21:52.020 And what I like about his qualities are,

00:21:54.740 and this was actually brought up on the call.

00:21:56.180 Dan Ball brought it up

00:21:57.040 on the call last night.

00:21:58.000 And I'd actually talked to Vivek

00:22:00.520 a couple of weeks ago and said,

00:22:02.460 would you ever be interested

00:22:03.400 in helping out, taking over

00:22:05.020 if Rana steps aside?

00:22:06.360 And he said, yeah, maybe temporarily.

00:22:08.520 I don't think I want to do it permanently,

00:22:10.240 but just to kind of help get us through.

00:22:11.900 So he did mention to me

00:22:13.860 that that would be something

00:22:15.020 he would do to help the Republican Party.

00:22:17.460 He brings, obviously,

00:22:18.660 some good business experience,

00:22:20.100 exceptional communication skills.

00:22:22.400 He's able to articulate

00:22:23.560 our America First agenda,

00:22:25.660 which is the agenda

00:22:26.740 that will save this country

00:22:28.180 and I believe even bring

00:22:29.820 the people of this country together.

00:22:32.260 And he's able to raise money

00:22:33.860 and bring young people

00:22:35.220 and new people into our party,

00:22:37.160 which is what it's all about.

00:22:38.360 We want the America First Republican Party

00:22:40.180 to really be just the American Party.

00:22:43.440 Well, no, I think that's great.

00:22:46.160 I love those Twitter spaces, by the way.

00:22:47.660 Dan and I, you know,

00:22:49.100 used to work together

00:22:49.880 at a previous network

00:22:51.100 and still good friends today.

00:22:53.300 We've had some,

00:22:54.200 they're great on those Twitter spaces

00:22:55.680 because, you know,

00:22:56.360 depending on the topic,

00:22:57.140 you can have a great debate.

00:22:58.740 You can have, you know,

00:22:59.620 people are firing bombs at each other

00:23:01.480 or you're just chatting about

00:23:02.920 who's going to be in charge.

00:23:04.520 Oh, yeah.

00:23:04.920 Oh, yeah.

00:23:05.360 There always are.

00:23:06.240 This was going on

00:23:07.060 at about 1030 Arizona time.

00:23:09.100 Exactly.

00:23:09.640 So it was going on

00:23:10.480 Eastern time after midnight.

00:23:11.920 And then, you know,

00:23:14.100 and then every once in a while,

00:23:15.000 I end up with where with like,

00:23:17.140 what was the one I was on with?

00:23:18.260 It's I'm on with Alex Jones

00:23:19.780 and Glenn Greenwald

00:23:21.100 and suddenly Elon Musk pops in

00:23:23.160 and we're chatting with him

00:23:24.080 and Vivek was there.

00:23:25.320 And that was the one

00:23:26.240 where he had that,

00:23:26.840 he had that little issue

00:23:27.760 where he was using the bathroom

00:23:28.980 and kind of forgot to,

00:23:30.000 forgot to hit the mute button

00:23:31.140 for a moment.

00:23:33.840 And you never know

00:23:35.360 what can happen on live streams.

00:23:36.420 I guess I'll put it that way

00:23:38.060 on those on those X spaces.

00:23:39.860 That's just where we are right now.

00:23:41.080 But it really strikes it.

00:23:43.180 And I'll just say this

00:23:44.500 to you directly, too,

00:23:45.240 because you're someone

00:23:46.180 who's gone from

00:23:46.920 the traditional media,

00:23:48.380 which is it's so produced

00:23:50.520 and it's so scripted

00:23:51.840 and it's so, you know,

00:23:53.020 every detail is taken care of.

00:23:54.880 But now you've embraced

00:23:56.400 this new grassroots movement.

00:23:58.360 And I think that's the reason

00:23:59.640 that you are getting

00:24:01.180 so much support

00:24:01.960 from those small dollar donors.

00:24:03.240 As you say,

00:24:04.040 I think that's part

00:24:05.420 of the energy

00:24:06.400 that's going into these

00:24:07.380 these things like X spaces

00:24:08.700 because there's just

00:24:09.360 people bubbling over

00:24:10.640 and there's this excitement

00:24:11.520 that it's not just

00:24:12.780 we're, you know,

00:24:14.300 like we're, you know,

00:24:15.420 sitting on the sidelines

00:24:16.360 and watching what's going on.

00:24:17.480 It's like you're actually active

00:24:18.560 and you're getting involved

00:24:19.860 and people who are

00:24:20.680 real newsmakers like yourself

00:24:21.820 are now part of the movement.

00:24:22.820 And we're seeing

00:24:23.940 these things change

00:24:24.920 as we continue

00:24:26.120 to move forward.

00:24:27.200 Tucker Carlson's going to do

00:24:28.300 this huge interview coming up.

00:24:30.360 But oh, by the way,

00:24:30.920 I should probably ask you

00:24:31.620 what exciting as a journalist,

00:24:33.360 as a journalist,

00:24:35.000 you know,

00:24:35.220 do you think it's

00:24:36.040 do you think it's fair game

00:24:37.180 for a journalist

00:24:38.000 to interview someone

00:24:39.180 who is a world leader

00:24:40.720 like this?

00:24:42.100 A hundred percent

00:24:43.000 to just hit

00:24:44.260 what you've said before.

00:24:45.200 And I do want to talk

00:24:46.360 about Tucker.

00:24:47.920 It is such an exciting time

00:24:49.840 in America.

00:24:50.800 And I want people

00:24:51.940 to know that.

00:24:52.700 I know many of us

00:24:54.140 and I'm one of them

00:24:54.980 lay awake occasionally

00:24:55.940 at night wondering

00:24:56.680 what can happen next

00:24:57.680 and oh, goodness,

00:24:58.520 what's going to break

00:24:59.580 the next day.

00:25:00.480 But we were placed here

00:25:02.000 for this moment.

00:25:02.660 We are perfectly equipped

00:25:04.380 for this moment

00:25:05.320 and God doesn't make mistakes

00:25:07.040 just as our founding fathers.

00:25:08.420 And we talked about Nathan Hale

00:25:09.440 in the last segment

00:25:10.880 and all of those

00:25:11.540 great founding fathers

00:25:12.520 who signed our founding documents

00:25:14.580 and crafted them

00:25:15.780 with God's help.

00:25:17.000 They were placed here

00:25:17.800 at that moment

00:25:18.520 for a reason.

00:25:19.280 We are placed here

00:25:20.000 at this moment

00:25:20.680 to save this country.

00:25:22.640 I love the new journalism.

00:25:24.720 This is these long format interviews.

00:25:26.660 For example,

00:25:27.060 I did an interview

00:25:27.760 with a local news station

00:25:29.220 yesterday about the border bill.

00:25:31.620 And they chose,

00:25:33.620 we did about a seven

00:25:34.620 or eight minute interview

00:25:35.440 and I answered a lot of questions,

00:25:37.700 gave a lot of details

00:25:38.660 about what I thought

00:25:39.680 was wrong with the bill,

00:25:41.100 what I think we should be doing instead,

00:25:43.260 how we can secure our border.

00:25:45.120 And just a tiny little

00:25:46.580 30 second snippet was used.

00:25:48.760 And then a bunch of opinion

00:25:50.240 from the reporter.

00:25:51.440 He got a bunch of the things

00:25:52.400 I said wrong.

00:25:53.900 He said that I thought

00:25:54.840 the bill didn't go far enough.

00:25:56.180 No, I think the bill is garbage

00:25:57.460 and we should throw it in the trash

00:25:58.880 and actually just secure the border

00:26:01.300 and fund the border wall.

00:26:03.000 So I'm going to put

00:26:04.620 the whole interview out

00:26:05.540 because I like seeing

00:26:06.560 a full interview.

00:26:07.840 And what we're seeing

00:26:08.980 with shows like yours, Jack,

00:26:10.480 and Real America's Voice

00:26:11.700 and some of these others

00:26:12.540 we've mentioned

00:26:13.140 and Tucker

00:26:13.620 is an entire interview.

00:26:15.580 If you want to fast forward,

00:26:16.820 you can,

00:26:17.700 but you can then watch

00:26:18.880 the interview

00:26:19.320 as it played out

00:26:20.400 and make your own assessment

00:26:21.680 of the facts.

00:26:22.940 And this is the problem

00:26:23.740 with nobody being willing

00:26:25.320 to interview Putin.

00:26:26.100 Or if they did,

00:26:27.740 we know it would be

00:26:28.900 some slanted piece.

00:26:31.000 Tucker's going to go in there

00:26:32.080 and I have no doubt

00:26:33.140 in my mind

00:26:33.700 he asks tough questions.

00:26:34.780 I haven't seen the interview yet.

00:26:35.820 It's not out.

00:26:37.040 But we deserve

00:26:38.100 to have answers.

00:26:39.560 $200 billion

00:26:40.380 of our money

00:26:41.600 has poured into Ukraine,

00:26:44.920 poured into killing people

00:26:46.200 overseas,

00:26:47.340 poured into yachts

00:26:48.360 for these oligarchs,

00:26:50.400 poured into a lifestyle

00:26:52.280 that we can only imagine

00:26:53.740 is probably horrifying

00:26:54.660 of Zelensky.

00:26:56.100 All of that.

00:26:57.400 And none of us in America

00:26:58.760 are able to find out

00:26:59.760 what Russia's stance

00:27:01.140 on this whole thing is.

00:27:02.320 We only can get

00:27:03.260 what the fake news

00:27:04.460 wants to tell us.

00:27:05.740 I don't know.

00:27:06.360 I'm old enough

00:27:06.860 to handle the truth

00:27:07.720 and I think everybody else is

00:27:08.940 and Americans deserve the truth.

00:27:11.280 Let's see what Putin

00:27:12.140 has to say

00:27:12.860 because I don't want

00:27:13.760 to see one more penny

00:27:14.580 of our money

00:27:15.520 going into a war

00:27:16.880 that's already being lost.

00:27:18.700 I want to hear

00:27:19.240 what's happening

00:27:19.820 and I don't want it

00:27:21.020 going through the,

00:27:21.920 as I said,

00:27:22.540 the filter,

00:27:23.200 the messed up filter

00:27:24.400 of the fake news.

00:27:25.200 So I'm looking forward

00:27:26.020 to it and I applaud Tucker.

00:27:28.440 What you just said

00:27:29.360 I think is perfect

00:27:30.020 is the filter is gone now.

00:27:32.180 The filter is completely gone.

00:27:33.800 There's no one

00:27:34.400 and believe me,

00:27:35.420 I was actually on the phone

00:27:36.700 with someone this morning

00:27:38.220 talking about

00:27:38.680 this very same thing

00:27:39.520 and I said,

00:27:40.620 you know,

00:27:40.780 there's no filter

00:27:41.460 on this show

00:27:43.320 that I do.

00:27:43.980 Nobody comes to me

00:27:44.720 and says,

00:27:45.140 oh, you need to push this

00:27:46.240 or you need to say this

00:27:47.120 or Carrie's coming on today.

00:27:48.180 You have to ask me this.

00:27:48.980 But there's none of that.

00:27:50.040 There's none of that whatsoever.

00:27:51.100 And I can go directly to people

00:27:52.240 and you running

00:27:53.540 can go directly to people

00:27:54.520 and talk to people

00:27:55.140 and hold interviews

00:27:55.860 and hold podcasts.

00:27:57.160 And it's a fantastic movement

00:27:59.100 for the truth

00:27:59.860 and the truth sometimes

00:28:00.860 isn't always pretty.

00:28:02.440 It isn't always nice.

00:28:03.420 It isn't always friendly,

00:28:05.000 right?

00:28:05.420 But it's the warts

00:28:06.740 and all truth.

00:28:07.400 That's why we call it that.

00:28:08.700 But isn't that better,

00:28:09.960 I would say,

00:28:10.920 than the stylized,

00:28:12.240 filtered,

00:28:13.020 fake,

00:28:13.820 just propaganda

00:28:15.280 that it's turned into

00:28:16.460 that you see

00:28:17.100 on those channels.

00:28:17.960 And I think that's why

00:28:18.680 people are switching

00:28:19.380 away from it.

00:28:21.120 Oh, I used to work for,

00:28:22.940 you know,

00:28:23.200 I call it the fake news now.

00:28:24.520 I felt that I was always

00:28:25.560 putting out an honest,

00:28:27.100 honesty,

00:28:27.720 whatever I reported,

00:28:28.540 but it was getting

00:28:29.240 increasingly more difficult

00:28:30.480 when COVID struck.

00:28:31.580 And I think I've told

00:28:32.220 this story a million times

00:28:33.260 and I walked away

00:28:34.100 from a job.

00:28:35.520 I was number one.

00:28:36.340 I'd been number one

00:28:37.040 for 22 years,

00:28:38.740 the most powerful news person

00:28:40.820 in the state

00:28:41.720 and walked away

00:28:43.000 from a seven figure contract

00:28:44.240 because I realized

00:28:45.620 that I don't have

00:28:47.080 the freedom

00:28:47.500 to push the truth anymore.

00:28:50.400 COVID,

00:28:51.420 our 2020,

00:28:52.800 you know,

00:28:53.760 rigged election,

00:28:55.380 I didn't have the ability

00:28:56.600 to put the truth out anymore

00:28:57.860 or at least even ask questions

00:28:59.540 to get to the bottom of things.

00:29:01.220 There wasn't an interest in that.

00:29:02.700 And the beautiful thing

00:29:03.600 about independent media

00:29:04.540 is you don't,

00:29:05.920 you're not beholden

00:29:06.660 to a bunch of sponsors.

00:29:08.360 You know,

00:29:08.540 when Big Pharma

00:29:09.340 is your sponsor,

00:29:10.200 when they're running

00:29:11.080 25,

00:29:12.280 30% of your ad revenue,

00:29:13.780 keeping the lights on,

00:29:15.140 paying the big,

00:29:16.420 salaries of the executives

00:29:18.380 in the broadcast network,

00:29:20.980 there's no interest

00:29:22.020 in being honest

00:29:22.900 and covering a vaccine fairly.

00:29:25.140 There's no interest in that.

00:29:26.800 And there's no interest

00:29:27.960 in,

00:29:28.420 you know,

00:29:29.080 when you've got

00:29:30.340 other,

00:29:31.000 you know,

00:29:32.060 huge sponsors

00:29:32.900 pushing things,

00:29:33.880 there's no interest

00:29:34.620 in digging into the truth.

00:29:35.820 You care more

00:29:36.320 about those sponsors

00:29:37.300 than the truth

00:29:38.520 and your viewers.

00:29:39.460 And suddenly you get

00:29:40.060 your editor,

00:29:40.780 you know,

00:29:41.060 oh,

00:29:41.280 the network,

00:29:41.980 the network doesn't want

00:29:42.840 that question in there.

00:29:44.080 The network,

00:29:44.580 they always say it's the network.

00:29:45.380 It's never the network,

00:29:46.020 it's the advertiser.

00:29:47.060 Last minute,

00:29:47.780 Carrie Lake.

00:29:48.420 No,

00:29:48.440 they don't even,

00:29:48.960 not even want the question.

00:29:50.300 They wanted people

00:29:50.940 pushing the product.

00:29:52.340 They were pushing the vaccine.

00:29:54.220 These news anchors

00:29:55.060 were pushing the vaccine

00:29:56.960 and not asking

00:29:58.360 any questions about it

00:29:59.680 because they all wanted

00:30:00.460 to take their paycheck home

00:30:01.740 so that they could,

00:30:02.940 you know,

00:30:03.520 go out to fancy brunch

00:30:04.680 on Sunday

00:30:05.280 and eat out at fancy dinners

00:30:06.660 on Friday nights.

00:30:08.380 And it's like,

00:30:08.940 guys,

00:30:09.240 you're losing your country,

00:30:10.380 you're lying to the people

00:30:11.520 and the most important meeting

00:30:13.400 you're going to have

00:30:13.920 is the meeting

00:30:14.340 you're going to have

00:30:14.780 with God someday.

00:30:15.660 And if you're doing that,

00:30:16.580 knowing it's wrong,

00:30:17.780 that meeting

00:30:18.640 is not going to go well.

00:30:20.820 Amen.

00:30:21.380 Carrie Lake,

00:30:21.840 where can people follow you?

00:30:22.800 Where can people

00:30:23.180 get involved with the campaign?

00:30:25.020 Thank you so much.

00:30:25.960 CarrieLake.com.

00:30:26.920 You can find out

00:30:27.380 where I stand

00:30:27.820 on all of the issues.

00:30:28.880 I'm so honored

00:30:29.600 to be endorsed

00:30:30.240 by President Trump.

00:30:31.480 I think I'm the only candidate

00:30:32.540 who he endorsed

00:30:33.620 the second I announced

00:30:35.060 for Senate.

00:30:37.020 I'm honored

00:30:37.700 to be an America

00:30:38.780 first Republican

00:30:39.800 who's running

00:30:40.500 to take this seat back

00:30:42.360 from the radical,

00:30:43.700 the radical who wrote

00:30:44.600 this disastrous border bill.

00:30:46.860 I mean,

00:30:47.240 I can't even believe,

00:30:48.200 I think we need

00:30:48.780 to actually check her health

00:30:50.400 up here to see

00:30:51.080 what's going on.

00:30:52.240 I think we should.

00:30:53.520 Maybe a little too many

00:30:54.500 of those vaccines

00:30:55.160 that you're talking about.

00:30:56.100 I don't know.

00:30:56.680 I don't know.

00:30:57.180 Carrie Lake, everyone,

00:30:58.040 go give her a follow.

00:30:58.880 She's the best.

00:30:59.920 We love her.

00:31:00.360 Julie Kelly's Wednesday.

00:31:03.740 Where is Jack?

00:31:06.100 Where is Jack?

00:31:08.420 Where is he?

00:31:09.800 Jack, I want to see you.

00:31:13.340 Great job, Jack.

00:31:14.720 Thank you.

00:31:15.480 What a job you do.

00:31:16.900 You know,

00:31:17.160 we have an incredible thing.

00:31:18.280 We're always talking

00:31:18.880 about the fake news

00:31:19.880 and the bad,

00:31:20.600 but we have guys

00:31:21.620 and these are the guys

00:31:23.000 who should be getting

00:31:23.580 Pulisic.

00:31:26.760 All right,

00:31:27.420 Jack,

00:31:27.600 we're so big back

00:31:28.060 live human events.

00:31:29.020 Dale,

00:31:29.200 the no filter show,

00:31:31.620 the no filter media

00:31:33.180 here on Real America's Voice.

00:31:36.260 You know what, folks?

00:31:36.900 Traditional media

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00:31:39.280 Why?

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00:33:03.760 Julie,

00:33:04.100 I didn't realize

00:33:05.220 that you were like

00:33:06.160 you were like

00:33:07.120 Jules Stradamus over here

00:33:09.040 because you have predicted

00:33:10.280 literally every step

00:33:12.000 of the way

00:33:12.700 of the lawfare

00:33:13.520 that's being used

00:33:14.200 against Donald J. Trump.

00:33:17.420 Well,

00:33:18.100 at least some of it,

00:33:19.940 I think I have.

00:33:21.900 But it's also-

00:33:22.700 I can't think of anything.

00:33:24.000 I know it's 100%.

00:33:25.320 Every time something happens,

00:33:26.920 I say,

00:33:27.420 Julie Kelly said that

00:33:28.300 a year ago.

00:33:29.020 Julie Kelly said

00:33:29.680 that six months ago.

00:33:30.720 Julie Kelly said

00:33:31.380 that four weeks ago.

00:33:32.300 And you can go

00:33:32.840 to your sub stack

00:33:33.740 and there it is.

00:33:34.800 Julie Kelly said

00:33:35.600 this is what's going

00:33:36.180 to happen

00:33:36.460 and boom,

00:33:36.940 it happens.

00:33:37.580 I'm like,

00:33:37.980 I'm not even surprised

00:33:38.820 at anything anymore

00:33:39.560 because I follow Julie Kelly.

00:33:42.440 Well,

00:33:42.920 thank you,

00:33:43.400 Jack.

00:33:43.740 I appreciate that.

00:33:44.860 You know me.

00:33:45.500 I'm just humble.

00:33:47.120 I'm just a shrinking violet.

00:33:48.640 I don't like to brag

00:33:50.240 or talk about myself.

00:33:51.320 That being said,

00:33:52.880 walk us through

00:33:54.340 this decision

00:33:55.140 from the D.C.

00:33:55.920 Appeals Court,

00:33:56.740 which again,

00:33:57.120 we were expecting,

00:33:58.680 but the idea that,

00:34:00.140 and this was the line

00:34:00.840 that really stuck

00:34:01.740 on my craw

00:34:02.220 for almost 24 hours.

00:34:03.920 I still can't get over it

00:34:04.800 and it's the fact

00:34:05.540 these people

00:34:05.920 are just communists.

00:34:07.560 President Trump

00:34:08.500 became Citizen Trump

00:34:10.520 for the purposes

00:34:11.780 of these proceedings.

00:34:13.900 This was the line.

00:34:15.160 January 6th happened

00:34:16.460 before Joe Biden

00:34:18.140 was sworn in

00:34:18.740 as president.

00:34:19.180 President Trump

00:34:20.360 was the fully invested

00:34:22.180 president of the United States

00:34:23.340 on that day

00:34:24.020 and the Supreme Court

00:34:25.360 or excuse me,

00:34:26.020 the D.C. Appeals Court

00:34:26.980 hasn't gone to the Supreme Court yet.

00:34:27.980 The D.C. Appeals Court

00:34:28.760 just basically decided

00:34:30.100 to throw all that out.

00:34:33.400 Right.

00:34:34.080 So there were

00:34:35.000 quite a few things

00:34:36.060 that jumped out

00:34:37.000 at this opinion,

00:34:38.800 which to your point,

00:34:39.900 we were expecting.

00:34:41.280 These are two

00:34:42.120 Biden appointed judges

00:34:43.520 and one George H.W. Bush

00:34:46.400 judge who's been

00:34:47.200 on the court

00:34:47.900 for almost 35 years.

00:34:49.460 So you know what that means.

00:34:50.560 She's part of the

00:34:51.580 political establishment

00:34:53.740 here in Washington.

00:34:55.700 So we were expecting this,

00:34:58.020 but I actually was hoping

00:34:59.900 for something

00:35:00.600 a little more substantial

00:35:02.120 than what they produced.

00:35:04.800 And to your point,

00:35:06.780 the fact that they are treating,

00:35:08.560 obviously,

00:35:09.180 these charges

00:35:09.780 in Jack Smith's

00:35:11.000 four-count indictment

00:35:12.180 against Trump

00:35:12.860 in Washington

00:35:13.560 were based on conduct

00:35:16.240 that he performed

00:35:17.420 while he was in office.

00:35:20.420 So how they could

00:35:21.840 suddenly then say,

00:35:23.020 well, you were indicted

00:35:23.980 when you were

00:35:24.820 a private citizen.

00:35:26.320 Well, yes,

00:35:27.160 but the alleged

00:35:27.880 quote-unquote crimes

00:35:29.440 happened when he was president.

00:35:31.480 So I'm not sure

00:35:33.060 how they're going

00:35:33.840 to get away with that.

00:35:35.180 We'll see.

00:35:36.800 But there were a lot

00:35:37.740 of little interesting tidbits

00:35:39.740 in this opinion.

00:35:40.660 I've posted some of them.

00:35:42.140 I wrote a little bit

00:35:43.000 on my sub stack.

00:35:44.340 But again,

00:35:45.380 we knew that this was coming,

00:35:47.060 was just hoping

00:35:47.660 that it would be

00:35:48.280 a little bit more substantive

00:35:49.700 because, of course, Jack,

00:35:51.160 this is the first time

00:35:52.340 these sort of court opinions

00:35:54.180 have been handed down.

00:35:55.760 We are dealing

00:35:56.400 with an unprecedented

00:35:57.560 legal and judicial matter,

00:35:59.740 which is whether

00:36:00.320 a president

00:36:01.200 can be criminally prosecuted.

00:36:04.460 So the sort of

00:36:05.740 lays-off-air attitude,

00:36:06.980 they had sort of

00:36:07.980 these throwaway lines

00:36:09.340 that they wanted

00:36:10.140 the media to grab,

00:36:11.160 which, of course,

00:36:11.680 they did,

00:36:12.720 instead of something

00:36:14.040 that seems really

00:36:14.960 well thought out,

00:36:16.760 which, of course,

00:36:17.660 it would be hard

00:36:18.160 because there is

00:36:18.820 no legal basis for this.

00:36:21.080 You know,

00:36:21.360 you could talk about

00:36:22.080 the issues related

00:36:23.060 to civil liability

00:36:24.800 of a president,

00:36:25.980 which has been debated

00:36:27.100 and resolved

00:36:27.760 in a few cases.

00:36:29.420 But this is history-making.

00:36:32.080 These are history-making decisions.

00:36:34.160 And I just don't think

00:36:35.480 at all that this

00:36:36.480 met the bar.

00:36:38.000 So we'll see

00:36:38.880 what happens

00:36:39.520 at the Supreme Court.

00:36:42.380 And so when we're looking

00:36:44.560 at the situation,

00:36:46.360 again,

00:36:46.720 presidential immunity,

00:36:48.200 clearly, right,

00:36:49.460 for every other president

00:36:50.880 for, you know,

00:36:52.040 in 44 terms

00:36:53.020 up until the 45th president,

00:36:54.860 this has been something

00:36:55.660 that Sackra's saying,

00:36:56.740 that in order to go

00:36:57.940 after the president,

00:36:58.640 and by the way,

00:36:59.100 you and I,

00:36:59.580 I believe,

00:36:59.840 both have said

00:37:00.520 that we do think,

00:37:02.720 actually,

00:37:03.200 that the president's lawyer

00:37:04.180 probably shouldn't have

00:37:05.220 waded into that hypothetical

00:37:06.540 about CLTM 6

00:37:07.680 where he was clearly

00:37:08.420 being set up.

00:37:09.520 Clearly,

00:37:10.220 a pre-written media question

00:37:13.520 about CLTM 6

00:37:14.800 that probably written

00:37:16.620 by Andrew Weissman,

00:37:17.820 by the way,

00:37:18.720 because it plays perfectly

00:37:19.880 into the insane ramblings

00:37:21.900 that he says on NBC

00:37:22.680 all the time,

00:37:24.080 where simply the answer

00:37:26.760 to that question

00:37:27.540 would be,

00:37:28.360 if something was done

00:37:29.840 in furtherance

00:37:30.920 of his duties,

00:37:32.180 his official duties

00:37:32.980 as president

00:37:33.640 of the United States,

00:37:35.060 then he does not

00:37:35.900 have criminal liability.

00:37:37.560 And again,

00:37:37.980 this would go back

00:37:39.160 to Barack Obama

00:37:40.940 and the drone strikes.

00:37:42.240 This would go

00:37:42.720 to George W.

00:37:43.600 It would go

00:37:44.000 to Joe Biden.

00:37:44.760 It would go

00:37:44.940 to every single president.

00:37:46.400 It's ridiculous.

00:37:49.580 It is.

00:37:50.420 And this is something

00:37:51.140 that these judges

00:37:52.440 really downplayed

00:37:53.560 in their opinion.

00:37:54.980 I don't know

00:37:55.420 if they're not paying

00:37:56.140 attention to the news

00:37:57.120 or what's been happening

00:37:58.120 in this country,

00:37:58.980 especially in the Trump era,

00:38:00.120 but they really downplayed

00:38:02.000 the idea

00:38:02.360 that this would be

00:38:03.080 a slippery slope,

00:38:04.080 that this would perpetuate,

00:38:05.520 and this is something

00:38:06.180 that Trump's lawyers

00:38:07.060 have argued,

00:38:08.220 that this would now

00:38:09.380 perpetuate

00:38:10.140 a never-ending cycle

00:38:12.700 of a current

00:38:14.960 sitting president's

00:38:16.220 Department of Justice

00:38:17.600 criminally prosecuting

00:38:19.540 his predecessor,

00:38:21.360 especially if that individual,

00:38:23.100 that president,

00:38:23.700 was of the opposite

00:38:24.820 political party.

00:38:26.140 And the judges

00:38:27.180 downplayed that

00:38:28.040 and said,

00:38:28.680 no,

00:38:28.900 that's not really

00:38:29.560 a consideration.

00:38:30.860 There's no evidence

00:38:31.900 that that would happen.

00:38:32.960 Well,

00:38:33.520 of course it is

00:38:34.280 because you're dealing

00:38:35.020 with it right now.

00:38:36.380 You're now going

00:38:36.960 to set the precedent

00:38:38.060 for this moving forward.

00:38:40.840 Donald Trump

00:38:41.240 was impeached twice,

00:38:42.580 and that was another

00:38:43.320 argument that they downplayed,

00:38:44.860 which was Trump's

00:38:45.800 lawyer's argument,

00:38:47.260 is that the proper

00:38:48.580 way to handle

00:38:50.160 a president,

00:38:52.340 you know,

00:38:52.800 accused of committing

00:38:53.700 crimes is,

00:38:54.700 of course,

00:38:54.900 impeachment and conviction.

00:38:56.680 He made the argument

00:38:57.600 that Trump was impeached

00:38:59.620 over January 6th,

00:39:00.520 not convicted,

00:39:01.680 so therefore he could

00:39:02.660 and be criminally prosecuted.

00:39:04.760 The judges also

00:39:06.260 downplayed that as well.

00:39:08.780 So they didn't give

00:39:10.340 any credence

00:39:11.000 to any of the arguments

00:39:12.240 that Donald Trump's lawyers

00:39:13.320 made or have been making.

00:39:15.680 This is simply

00:39:16.560 another rubber stamp

00:39:17.520 for Jack Smith,

00:39:18.420 the DOJ,

00:39:18.960 and of course Judge

00:39:19.620 Tanya Chutkin,

00:39:20.720 an Obama appointee

00:39:21.980 who issued

00:39:23.620 the really historic ruling

00:39:25.440 that concluded

00:39:26.800 presidents can be

00:39:27.780 criminally prosecuted.

00:39:28.980 And so when we look at this,

00:39:34.520 where do you expect

00:39:35.440 the Supreme Court,

00:39:36.580 or actually,

00:39:37.320 I guess the better question is,

00:39:38.480 when do you expect

00:39:39.540 the Supreme Court

00:39:40.180 to come down?

00:39:40.720 Because obviously,

00:39:41.760 this is an incredibly

00:39:42.900 thorny issue.

00:39:44.720 It's something that,

00:39:45.960 to my mind,

00:39:46.520 hasn't really gone up

00:39:47.560 to the court

00:39:48.040 in at least a generation.

00:39:49.300 and obviously something

00:39:51.560 that a court

00:39:52.180 is going to understand

00:39:53.060 will have

00:39:53.600 a stunning precedence

00:39:56.460 for not just

00:39:57.500 Donald Trump

00:39:58.080 in this current case,

00:39:59.080 but every single

00:40:00.120 previous and future

00:40:02.400 occupant of that office.

00:40:06.440 Correct.

00:40:07.660 And let's remember

00:40:09.720 what these charges

00:40:10.860 in Jack Smith's indictment

00:40:12.240 are.

00:40:13.120 This is not for murder.

00:40:14.860 It's not for

00:40:15.640 human trafficking.

00:40:17.040 It's not for running drugs.

00:40:18.140 It's not for taking bribes.

00:40:20.740 These are four

00:40:21.860 extremely vague counts.

00:40:24.580 Three, conspiracy.

00:40:25.780 One, obstruction.

00:40:27.060 And two of the four counts,

00:40:28.780 Jack,

00:40:28.980 are now before

00:40:29.740 the Supreme Court

00:40:30.740 and could very well

00:40:32.900 be reversed

00:40:34.040 how the Department of Justice

00:40:35.560 and Jack Smith

00:40:36.540 intentionally misinterpreted

00:40:38.740 this 1512c2

00:40:40.140 obstruction of an official

00:40:41.120 proceeding,

00:40:41.780 a post-Enron,

00:40:43.460 tampering with evidence

00:40:44.880 and documents statute

00:40:47.140 statute,

00:40:48.240 how they have intentionally

00:40:49.880 misinterpreted that law,

00:40:51.700 weaponized it,

00:40:52.860 used it against

00:40:53.640 more than 320 J6ers

00:40:55.480 and now Donald Trump.

00:40:57.120 So these are not even

00:40:58.600 cut and dry

00:41:00.060 charges.

00:41:01.620 It's not that

00:41:02.220 he's accused of

00:41:03.500 committing serious crimes.

00:41:05.680 They had to go to

00:41:06.680 these really vague

00:41:08.040 statutes,

00:41:09.260 conspiracy to defraud

00:41:10.840 the United States,

00:41:11.940 conspiracy to,

00:41:13.620 against people's rights,

00:41:15.580 cleaning that part

00:41:17.300 of January 6th and his.

00:41:18.420 Julie, hold that thought.

00:41:18.820 We'll run into a quick break,

00:41:20.260 but this is very important.

00:41:22.300 Let's hold you over

00:41:23.120 because we have to

00:41:24.120 explain this for everybody.

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00:42:54.480 to Julie Kelly now.

00:42:55.720 Julie,

00:42:56.040 this is a huge

00:42:57.120 and I think

00:42:57.640 underreported aspect

00:42:58.760 of this.

00:42:59.240 The fact that this case

00:42:59.980 is now going up

00:43:00.600 to the Supreme Court,

00:43:01.800 that means that

00:43:02.920 the Supreme Court,

00:43:04.340 really,

00:43:04.780 Jack Smith could be

00:43:05.660 vulnerable

00:43:06.320 to them looking

00:43:07.480 at how he's applying

00:43:08.500 these various statutes

00:43:09.620 and you've pointed

00:43:10.840 out the really

00:43:12.240 lawless

00:43:12.960 and I think

00:43:13.960 they say

00:43:14.300 novel legal theory

00:43:15.720 but what they're

00:43:16.180 really doing

00:43:16.600 is they're stretching

00:43:17.460 the statute,

00:43:18.080 aren't they?

00:43:19.460 They absolutely are

00:43:20.520 and this is what's

00:43:21.280 going to be

00:43:21.560 an interesting

00:43:22.080 sort of collision

00:43:22.980 course and I'm

00:43:24.100 working on a piece

00:43:24.960 so people can really

00:43:25.960 understand what's

00:43:27.220 happening at the

00:43:27.880 Supreme Court.

00:43:28.640 There's going to be

00:43:29.520 this collision course

00:43:30.600 between the immunity

00:43:32.160 issue if the Supreme

00:43:33.880 Court takes it up.

00:43:35.300 Now,

00:43:35.500 there's no guarantee

00:43:37.040 that they will

00:43:37.860 but they have

00:43:39.900 accepted cert

00:43:40.980 in this 1512C2 issue.

00:43:44.100 Interestingly enough,

00:43:45.800 Judge Florence Pan,

00:43:47.080 who helped author

00:43:47.900 the decision yesterday,

00:43:49.720 her ruling,

00:43:50.780 her split ruling

00:43:51.860 on 1512C2,

00:43:53.780 her opinion is the one

00:43:55.160 that the Supreme Court

00:43:56.620 is going to consider

00:43:57.760 and could possibly reverse.

00:44:00.000 So this is just part

00:44:01.160 of this complicated web

00:44:02.520 of how this all

00:44:03.700 fits together

00:44:04.420 but they have granted cert.

00:44:06.720 they could hear

00:44:08.020 oral arguments

00:44:08.940 I'm hearing

00:44:10.000 from my sources

00:44:10.720 in April

00:44:11.440 on 1512C2.

00:44:14.420 It's the,

00:44:14.880 and we'll have

00:44:15.380 some indication

00:44:15.980 from oral arguments

00:44:17.000 where they're going to head

00:44:17.880 but if it seems like

00:44:19.720 these justices

00:44:20.820 and of course

00:44:21.280 you just need five

00:44:22.100 are inclined

00:44:23.580 to reverse

00:44:24.720 how DOJ

00:44:25.640 including Jack Smith

00:44:26.860 have misinterpreted

00:44:28.300 the statute

00:44:28.760 meaning you have

00:44:29.960 to prove

00:44:30.360 that somebody

00:44:30.920 destroyed documents

00:44:33.400 or tampered

00:44:34.060 with evidence.

00:44:34.760 that's not what

00:44:35.460 happened in Jack Smith's case

00:44:36.720 that January 6th

00:44:37.980 was an official proceeding

00:44:39.420 that's still vague

00:44:40.420 or that the individual

00:44:42.000 acted corruptly

00:44:43.580 meaning some sort

00:44:44.560 of personal benefit.

00:44:46.100 So there's a heavy burden

00:44:47.880 for DOJ

00:44:49.020 to now prove up

00:44:50.460 that they have

00:44:51.340 abided by the letter

00:44:52.740 of the law.

00:44:53.780 Just imagine Jack

00:44:55.140 if they deny,

00:44:56.460 if they uphold

00:44:57.160 the immunity argument

00:44:58.600 which is that

00:44:59.300 Donald Trump

00:45:00.180 is indeed subjected

00:45:01.780 to criminal prosecution

00:45:02.980 while at the same time

00:45:04.600 coming back

00:45:05.300 and saying half

00:45:06.260 of his indictment

00:45:07.140 is bogus

00:45:07.840 and that the Department

00:45:09.280 of Justice

00:45:09.840 including Jack Smith

00:45:10.880 have misinterpreted

00:45:12.280 they're going to toss

00:45:13.260 then basically

00:45:13.960 two of the

00:45:15.740 four charges

00:45:16.880 against him

00:45:17.500 and leave him

00:45:18.080 with two even more

00:45:19.380 vague conspiracy counts.

00:45:22.240 So this is really

00:45:23.940 what's going to be

00:45:24.480 fascinating to watch

00:45:26.040 this,

00:45:27.520 as I call it,

00:45:28.700 collision course

00:45:29.300 at the Supreme Court

00:45:30.080 this spring

00:45:30.620 into the summer.

00:45:32.740 Julie,

00:45:33.280 wasn't this also

00:45:34.200 one of the cases

00:45:35.380 that as you say

00:45:37.140 they accepted cert on

00:45:38.700 but it was for

00:45:39.460 on the statute

00:45:40.540 but it was for

00:45:41.080 a J6 defendant

00:45:42.420 but your point was

00:45:43.840 that you made

00:45:44.340 an earlier appearance

00:45:46.220 was that it would

00:45:47.360 obviously also

00:45:48.680 affect the president's case

00:45:50.000 and it was sort of

00:45:50.860 a way for them

00:45:51.400 to potentially rule

00:45:52.680 on something

00:45:54.420 that would affect

00:45:54.980 the president

00:45:55.440 but doing so

00:45:56.620 in a sort of

00:45:57.120 sideways manner

00:45:58.040 so it wasn't

00:45:58.680 his case directly.

00:46:00.620 Jack,

00:46:02.580 I'm sorry

00:46:02.860 you broke up

00:46:03.400 a little bit

00:46:04.040 there at the end.

00:46:05.780 Okay,

00:46:06.200 no,

00:46:06.380 no,

00:46:06.400 no,

00:46:06.480 I just said

00:46:06.900 that this

00:46:07.480 statute issue

00:46:08.420 is something

00:46:08.760 they're also

00:46:09.320 looking at

00:46:09.860 in another case

00:46:10.640 if I have that right.

00:46:13.580 Right,

00:46:14.100 correct.

00:46:14.620 So that's already

00:46:16.120 in their

00:46:17.400 business calendar.

00:46:20.280 We're just waiting

00:46:20.800 now to see

00:46:21.300 when the oral

00:46:21.780 arguments would be

00:46:22.460 but there's

00:46:22.880 briefs back and forth

00:46:24.320 and important

00:46:25.120 to remember

00:46:25.700 with the 1512 issue

00:46:27.040 you need four

00:46:28.360 justices to grant

00:46:29.700 cert they call it

00:46:30.720 meaning they want

00:46:31.540 to review the case.

00:46:33.280 So it sounds like

00:46:33.880 you've already got

00:46:34.460 four justices

00:46:35.260 who are very skeptical

00:46:36.300 about how DOJ

00:46:37.680 and then the federal

00:46:38.900 courts including

00:46:39.540 Judge Pan

00:46:40.040 have upheld

00:46:40.860 this count

00:46:41.720 against Jay Sixers.

00:46:42.180 I think that's right.

00:46:42.660 Julia,

00:46:42.860 if I could

00:46:43.260 we've only got

00:46:44.160 about two minutes

00:46:44.900 left here in the show

00:46:45.760 but I'd love to get

00:46:46.720 we know that oral

00:46:47.580 arguments speaking of which

00:46:48.740 will begin tomorrow

00:46:50.160 will be held tomorrow

00:46:51.140 at the Supreme Court

00:46:52.520 for the Colorado case.

00:46:55.100 This is the first time

00:46:55.780 that one of these cases

00:46:56.500 has gone to the Supreme Court

00:46:57.400 regarding the applicability

00:46:59.440 essentially of that

00:47:00.400 14th amendment

00:47:01.160 to the president.

00:47:02.420 Can you give us

00:47:02.860 a quick preview

00:47:03.500 of what you think

00:47:04.000 will happen tomorrow?

00:47:06.220 Right.

00:47:06.760 So those oral arguments

00:47:07.760 are tomorrow

00:47:08.280 at 10 o'clock

00:47:09.120 and this will be

00:47:10.760 as we were talking

00:47:11.880 the first time really

00:47:13.380 that the Supreme Court

00:47:14.200 will confront

00:47:14.900 any of these

00:47:15.640 Trump election

00:47:16.740 related matters

00:47:17.780 for now

00:47:18.260 and this deals

00:47:19.620 with the 4-3 decision

00:47:20.780 by the Colorado

00:47:21.480 Supreme Court

00:47:22.320 to toss him

00:47:23.220 off the ballot.

00:47:24.540 So this is the lawsuit

00:47:25.440 that was filed

00:47:26.180 to reverse that.

00:47:28.860 So those oral arguments

00:47:30.380 that I'm in D.C.

00:47:31.520 I'm going to try

00:47:32.020 to go over there

00:47:32.640 and see what's happening

00:47:33.560 but this should be

00:47:35.720 quite fascinating

00:47:37.440 to see how the justices

00:47:38.860 handle this case.

00:47:42.460 Well, I just can't wait

00:47:44.140 to hear Clarence Thomas

00:47:45.280 get in on this

00:47:46.220 because you can always tell

00:47:48.300 old Clarence

00:47:49.780 you can always kind of tell

00:47:50.740 which way he's leaning

00:47:51.700 with a lot of the questions

00:47:52.840 that he asks

00:47:53.600 and especially

00:47:54.200 when some of these lawyers

00:47:56.080 particularly these activist

00:47:58.000 young lawyers

00:47:58.960 get up there

00:47:59.540 before Clarence

00:48:00.320 I mean it's

00:48:00.860 it's like the student

00:48:02.080 meeting the professor

00:48:03.160 for the first time

00:48:04.180 and he just cuts them down

00:48:05.700 just absolutely

00:48:06.480 obliterates their logic.

00:48:10.820 Yes.

00:48:11.460 Well, and as you know

00:48:12.420 there's already Democrats

00:48:13.920 who are calling

00:48:14.540 for Clarence Thomas

00:48:15.780 to recuse himself

00:48:16.760 from all of these

00:48:17.920 Trump legal issues

00:48:19.040 and especially

00:48:19.600 the J6

00:48:20.300 anything related

00:48:21.060 to J6

00:48:21.840 so I'm sure

00:48:23.400 he's not listening

00:48:24.440 he won't

00:48:25.020 but they're already

00:48:26.400 trying to delegitimize

00:48:27.700 any decision

00:48:28.560 that comes out of SCOTUS.

00:48:31.120 Julie Kelly

00:48:31.580 where can people go

00:48:32.380 to follow you

00:48:33.200 to get more information

00:48:34.080 and to find out

00:48:34.960 the future

00:48:35.320 before it happens?

00:48:36.080 Thanks Jack

00:48:38.300 so I'm at Substack

00:48:39.260 declassified with

00:48:40.120 Julie Kelly

00:48:40.680 also real clear

00:48:41.720 investigations

00:48:42.400 and I post a lot

00:48:44.000 of breaking news

00:48:44.560 on Twitter

00:48:45.020 Julie underscore Kelly

00:48:46.260 too

00:48:46.560 Julie underscore Kelly

00:48:49.040 too

00:48:49.300 I'm telling you guys

00:48:50.300 Jules Stradamus

00:48:51.040 she will tell you

00:48:52.460 the way these courts

00:48:54.100 and the law fair

00:48:54.920 will operate

00:48:55.740 because she's got

00:48:57.160 these guys

00:48:58.240 and she's got

00:48:58.880 their number

00:48:59.320 let me tell you

00:48:59.820 something else

00:49:00.300 we're winning

00:49:01.200 right now folks

00:49:01.920 when we went to

00:49:02.740 Vegas last week

00:49:03.660 we held that

00:49:04.540 RNC conference

00:49:05.520 Ronna McDaniel

00:49:06.340 announces

00:49:07.020 or basically

00:49:07.720 it comes out

00:49:08.140 that she is going

00:49:08.840 to resign

00:49:09.620 folks

00:49:10.500 this is where

00:49:11.700 the energy is

00:49:12.700 human events

00:49:14.140 daily

00:49:14.720 where we are

00:49:15.640 making

00:49:16.280 the human events

00:49:17.660 daily

00:49:18.560 ladies and gentlemen

00:49:19.540 as always

00:49:20.120 if you have my

00:49:20.560 permission

00:49:20.940 play a short

Human Events Daily with Jack Posobiec - February 07, 2024

EPISODE 665： RONNA MCDANIEL TO STEP DOWN, BORDER BILL DOA, PRESIDENTIAL IMMUNITY ON TRIAL

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