Human Events Daily with Jack Posobiec - EPISODE 667： SUPREME COURT SMACKDOWN, COLORADO SET TO LOSE BIG ON TRUMP ELIGIBILITY CASE

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00:00:30.000 This is what happens when the fourth turning meets fifth generation warfare.

00:00:39.780 A commentator, international social media sensation, and former Navy intelligence veteran.

00:00:46.560 This is Human Events with your host, Jack Posobiec.

00:00:49.500 Deliver us from evil.

00:00:50.800 The Colorado Supreme Court concluded that the violent attempts of the petitioner supporters

00:00:56.640 in this case to halt the count on January 6th qualified as an insurrection.

00:01:03.300 And I read your opening brief to accept that those events counted as an insurrection.

00:01:08.600 But then your reply seemed to suggest that they were not.

00:01:11.200 We never accepted or conceded in our opening brief that this was an insurrection.

00:01:15.040 President Trump did not engage in any act that can plausibly be characterized as insurrection.

00:01:20.300 Then that's saying that in this context, which is very high stakes, if we review the facts,

00:01:26.400 essentially de novo, you want us all to just watch the video of the ellipse and then make

00:01:30.580 a decision without any deference to or guidance from lower court fact finding?

00:01:35.060 That's unusual.

00:01:36.040 Would we have to have our own trial?

00:01:38.980 No, Your Honor.

00:01:39.640 But ultimately what we have here is an insurrection that was incited in plain sight.

00:01:43.640 You're really not answering my question.

00:01:45.460 It's not helpful if you don't do that.

00:01:46.980 Congress has enacted statutes, including one still in effect, Section 2383 of Title 18,

00:01:54.760 prohibits insurrection.

00:01:56.380 It's a federal criminal statute.

00:01:58.380 And if you're convicted of that, you are, it says, shall be disqualified from holding any office.

00:02:05.160 And so there is a federal statute on the books, but President Trump has not been charged with that.

00:02:10.480 So what are we to make of that?

00:02:12.340 Think about the right of the people to elect candidates of their choice, of letting the people decide,

00:02:20.240 because your position has the effect of disenfranchising voters to a significant degree.

00:02:27.800 On your theory, would anything compel a lower official to obey an order from, in your view, the former president?

00:02:39.260 I'm not going to say it again, so just try and answer the question.

00:02:41.540 If you don't have an answer, fair enough, we'll move on.

00:02:44.060 Impeachment's the only way to validate that they don't have the ability to hold that office and should be removed.

00:02:49.560 A plethora of Confederates still around.

00:02:52.940 There were any number of people who would continue to either run for state offices or national offices.

00:02:59.080 So it seemed that that would suggest that there would at least be a few examples of national candidates being disqualified.

00:03:10.540 Well, there were certainly national candidates who were disqualified by Congress refusing to seat them.

00:03:15.260 I understand that, but that's not this case.

00:03:17.580 The framers were concerned about charismatic rebels who might rise through the ranks up to and including the presidency of the United States.

00:03:25.180 But then why didn't they put the word president in the very enumerated list in Section 3?

00:03:30.720 I'm a believer in our country and I'm a believer in the Supreme Court.

00:03:33.740 So I listened today and I thought our arguments were very, very strong.

00:04:03.740 From the Philly area, got to support that going in there and just really having great answers for the court, having excellent, I think, arguments for the president on behalf of the fact that this ridiculous case.

00:04:16.940 Remember, this incredibly insane case from the state of Colorado, which, by the way, of course, will have other bearing on states throughout the nation that are trying to do this.

00:04:27.020 These lefty states, these blue states that are running around saying that President Trump should be ineligible for office because of January 6th.

00:04:36.160 It sounds as though the court is just completely not even interested in this.

00:04:40.720 It's so bad that they've even lost the libs on the court.

00:04:45.780 Kagan doesn't sound like she's down for this.

00:04:48.100 Ketaji Brown doesn't sound like she's in for this. 1.00

00:04:50.300 They might even lose Sotomayor.

00:04:52.360 They might even lose Sotomayor.

00:04:55.480 However, that's how bad Colorado's standing is here because it really comes down to this.

00:05:00.520 It comes down to and this was the key question, I think, of the entire the entire brief.

00:05:04.820 And by the way, we've, you know, hats off to the great Clarence Thomas, an absolute national treasure.

00:05:13.480 The Democrats and the media lost their minds that Clarence Thomas refused to recuse himself from this case, basically saying, look, I'm a Supreme Court justice.

00:05:22.620 This is something that has precedence over every single future president of the United States.

00:05:28.360 You should not recuse himself only because he is smarter than the liberal justices and he is smarter than anything that the leftists send at him.

00:05:36.180 No, he should not recuse himself for one second.

00:05:38.980 And that's how he completely owned this lawyer there.

00:05:42.340 I was joking on Twitter earlier that the Clarence Thomas really just committed murder in front of the entire nation.

00:05:49.540 But it comes down to this simple question.

00:05:50.800 We'll have Roger Stone joining us here soon.

00:05:54.080 Is the case is the case.

00:05:56.520 And this is what I think the case is.

00:05:59.440 The states have the right to tell other states who they are or they're not allowed to vote for.

00:06:05.080 No, obviously they do not.

00:06:07.340 It is clear they do not.

00:06:08.660 And ladies and gentlemen, this court is going to strike it.

00:06:11.560 And it might be 9-0, but don't don't count Sotomayor out.

00:06:14.940 She might find some way to commie herself out of this.

00:06:17.760 So it could be 8-1.

00:06:19.040 We'll see.

00:06:19.460 Roger Stone joins us next.

00:06:20.660 We'll have all the updates.

00:06:21.320 We'll see you next time.

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00:06:57.720 All right, Jack Posobiec back here at Human Events Daily Live Washington, D.C.

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00:07:54.880 We are joined here by a veteran and iconic Republican strategist, Roger Stone.

00:08:00.560 Roger, I'd love to get your thoughts on the president's hearing this morning, his legal team, and how everything shook out.

00:08:06.740 Seems to have gone extraordinarily well, Jack.

00:08:10.300 I mean, it's somewhat ironic that those who accuse us of being anti-democracy are trying to knock their opponent off the ballot so that we can't have an election.

00:08:21.720 I can't think of anything less democratic than that.

00:08:26.200 Their argument has always been flawed that because Trump engaged in insurrection, well, according to who, has no conviction for insurrection.

00:08:39.420 He should therefore be ineligible to be on the ballot in the next election.

00:08:45.460 I just came off a debate just minutes ago with a former congressman, Anthony Weiner, who said, well, the 14th Amendment doesn't say anything about conviction.

00:08:56.860 I said, yeah, but it's a subjective argument.

00:08:58.680 So who then decides whether he has, in quote unquote, engaged in insurrection if he has no conviction for that?

00:09:07.400 But that's not the only problem.

00:09:08.720 The other problem here is that the Section 3 of the 14th Amendment specifically does not, based on previous Supreme Court decisions, regard the president and the vice president.

00:09:21.400 It specifically regards officers of the United States, which the courts have held previously the president and vice president are not for technical reasons.

00:09:31.460 And then there's a third argument that even if the first two were correct, that the Congress would have to have enacted some enabling legislation.

00:09:41.960 This wasn't self-fulfilling or self-executing.

00:09:45.800 So it's a very strong legal argument.

00:09:48.960 It has been from the beginning.

00:09:51.580 The only reason it's in front of the court is because the Colorado Supreme Court is extraordinarily politicized.

00:10:00.280 It was rejected at the lower court, surprisingly, but it was revived.

00:10:07.140 The case was revived and reversed by Colorado's incredibly politicized Supreme Court, where every single justice is a Democrat.

00:10:17.160 But even that said, there were two very strong and very articulate dissents from two of the Colorado justices.

00:10:24.660 So it was ironic, Jack, the three justices who went to Ivy League colleges, they agreed with the argument that Trump should be knocked off the ballot.

00:10:33.220 The two Democrat justices who both went to community colleges, they said no.

00:10:37.640 And this is really interesting to me as well, Roger, that in numerous instances here, you had basic questions that were asked of the justices to this lawyer for, I would say, the Democrat lawyer in Colorado.

00:10:51.820 When he came up on the back end, I thought the Republican, the appellate lawyer for President Trump was a, I think he did a fine job.

00:11:00.260 I think he did a very fine job.

00:11:01.760 I hope that we're going to be seeing more of him in some of these other cases, by the way, this Jonathan Mitchell.

00:11:05.760 But the Democrat lawyer, I mean, just asking questions of the justices, really kind of impugning them, refusing to answer basic questions.

00:11:16.880 And it doesn't surprise me, by the way, that Neil Gorsuch and others really took him to task.

00:11:23.060 You know, this is a situation where when I served as a Navy Intel officer, if I had guys under me, if I had junior analysts and we were preparing them to train for a briefing of a, of a commander, of a captain, of any higher up, a flag officer, say it.

00:11:40.140 And, you know, you really have to train them right away that you always have respect for their office.

00:11:45.740 And you don't get to, you don't get to ask them questions.

00:11:48.520 They ask you the questions and you must be respectful.

00:11:51.960 This Murray character, he seemed incredibly disrespectful.

00:11:55.560 And I really think at one point Gorsuch just absolutely took him to the whipping post.

00:12:00.260 Well, it was the whole thing was a welcome change from roughly a week ago when Trump's lawyer, a fellow named Sauer, who has certainly an impressive pedigree on paper,

00:12:12.220 I think had a major misstep before the appeals court in arguing on the question of presidential immunity.

00:12:21.960 One minute and 58 seconds into his presentation, he was asked what was clearly a prescripted question as to whether, as president, if Trump had SEAL Team 6 go out and assassinate his political opponent,

00:12:37.120 and then had SEAL Team 6 go out and assassinate every senator who then wanted to impeach Trump because of it, would Trump have full presidential immunity?

00:12:47.780 First of all, every seasoned trial attorney I know says you don't answer hypothetical questions.

00:12:52.600 But secondarily, even in this case, since none of those activities would have fallen within the purview of his responsibilities as president,

00:13:02.720 the answer was probably no, there would be, that wouldn't happen, but even if it did, there would be no immunity.

00:13:09.600 Now, the left has taken this faux pas, and they have really used it to try to characterize Trump's entire argument, trying to say, well, Trump is saying he can do anything he wants as president, would have full immunity.

00:13:24.080 It's not really what he's saying.

00:13:25.420 However, we talked about this, the implication, if the court rules against Trump, the implications for other past and future presidents is really extraordinary.

00:13:39.540 In other words, that means that there would be no immunity.

00:13:42.960 And therefore, as you pointed out, U.S. citizens hit with a drone strike or U.S. citizens illegally surveilled upon, like, oh, I don't know, Tucker Carlson, James Rosen.

00:13:54.360 They would have substantial legal actions against former presidents or future presidents.

00:14:01.580 Or I would even add to that list, by the way, how about spying on your own political opposition, as in the opposing candidate for your party?

00:14:11.080 People forget, of course, that the origins of the Russiagate consequence all started with a FISA warrant that was illegally and improperly obtained on elements of the Trump campaign.

00:14:23.100 And Carter Page, George Papadopoulos, others who were spied upon.

00:14:27.020 And so the idea that someone could be held criminally liable, well, why couldn't some justice immediately come out and say, well, look, this was election interference, clearly from Barack Obama.

00:14:37.420 By the way, you had Alito in there at one point insinuate.

00:14:40.380 I don't think that actually I don't think this Murray understood what Alito was saying, but he said if there were a country that was an avowed enemy of the United States and the president released funding to that country, could that be considered an act of aiding and of aiding comfort to the enemy?

00:15:01.700 Now, of course, anyone who's paying attention to the situation would know that he's talking about Iran and he's talking about the fact that Biden did release money to Iran immediately before these these Hamas attacks back in October of last year.

00:15:15.880 But I don't he just glossed right past the entire argument.

00:15:18.940 Yeah, you raise an excellent point.

00:15:21.920 It would seem to me that if presidential immunity was stripped, Carter Page, George Papadopoulos would have a very serious legal action that they could bring.

00:15:30.800 Today, they're prevented from doing so because, well, President Obama, who was president at the time, had immunity.

00:15:38.400 Once again, there's the law, then there's the Trump exception.

00:15:44.260 That seems the way this always worked.

00:15:45.960 The law is for everybody else except for Donald Trump.

00:15:49.460 Well, and his supporters.

00:15:52.600 Well, and I do think this also I agree with what you're saying, that we should view this in terms of telegraphing where the justice is.

00:15:59.680 At least some of those will come down on the immunity argument.

00:16:03.520 I think I think it stands without within reason to say that, of course, they are going to be granting cert to that case, to presidential immunity and bringing up this question of presidential immunity.

00:16:13.060 And I think we probably can read between the lines because they're not really I don't think they're trying to be circum circuitous with their speech and saying that they do believe that a president.

00:16:22.840 These these safeguards are there for a reason.

00:16:25.220 These are basic checks and balances in our system.

00:16:27.760 And it doesn't sound like, again, even Ketanji Brown, even Kagan, they don't want to open this thing up to an absolute free for all the way that the Democrats and their allies in the media.

00:16:39.600 By the way, Andrew Weissman, your your best friend, is even out there saying that this could be a seven to two or even nine or ruling.

00:16:46.040 On ballot access.

00:16:48.780 On ballot access.

00:16:49.860 Yes.

00:16:50.580 Yeah.

00:16:50.820 I actually am fairly confident on ballot ballot access.

00:16:55.260 Excellent presentation this morning by David Chung, the criminal defense lawyer who represented Donald Trump in the Ukrainian impeachment.

00:17:06.000 Excellent presentation on CNN.

00:17:08.320 I think he demolished this again.

00:17:10.700 I I'm growingly optimistic that the court's going to reach the correct decision on the question of ballot access.

00:17:18.380 It was also ironically in some of the strangest and most unpredictable places, Massachusetts, Michigan, places where the courts are fairly liberal.

00:17:27.100 This is going to those state Supreme Courts and it's been denied.

00:17:31.120 So the people who are anti-democratic are, in fact, the Democrats.

00:17:37.400 And they really just don't want to face Donald Trump at the ballot box.

00:17:41.460 That's what this is really about.

00:17:43.420 Try to eliminate him one way or another.

00:17:46.020 Obviously, we know the other way they seek to eliminate him, which would be to try to convict him of some crime.

00:17:54.160 But everything here, I think, as you know, relates to timetable.

00:17:59.220 In other words, when CNN and The New York Times editorial page, both of them criticized Jack Smith for being in a hurry because it's clear that he wants to get to a criminal trial prior to Election Day.

00:18:11.660 That's right, Roger. Hold that. Hold that thought, because I do think we have a quick break coming up.

00:18:16.800 But I think this is this is crucial for everyone to understand the timetable.

00:18:21.380 And by the way, just security, the lefts and Ben Wittes and all these, they understand that the timetable is not their friend.

00:18:28.280 Stay tuned. More with the great Roger Stone coming up next.

00:18:30.480 They talk about influences. These are influences and they're friends of mine.

00:18:39.980 Jack, you're so like, where's Jack?

00:18:42.440 Jack, he's got a great job.

00:18:44.940 All right. Jack, we'll be back live. Human events daily. Washington, D.C.

00:18:52.280 Big W for President Trump in the Supreme Court today.

00:18:55.340 We're expected a good ruling, but there's a lot more to come because, folks, the world is in flames.

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00:19:55.000 Roger Stone is our guest. He's breaking this all down for us.

00:19:58.300 Now, Roger, today was a good day.

00:20:00.720 Today was a great day for the president, and I think that conservatives should be happy and celebrate your victories.

00:20:06.220 Take your W's, as they say, and as the kids say online.

00:20:09.200 But at the same time, I don't think this was a case that anybody was really losing sleep over.

00:20:15.180 And that's not just because we're using my pillows every night.

00:20:18.820 It's because that these were spurious arguments, and they've always been spurious arguments.

00:20:24.180 But there will be other cases that come up, not just the presidential immunity case, but even the January 6th question indirect.

00:20:32.780 And I don't believe that the judges, I would be shocked if the justices ruled on the question of insurrection in this case.

00:20:40.540 It seems that there are many off ramps available to them.

00:20:43.800 And so, Roger, as we look ahead, what are some of the things, just on the lawfare perspective here, that the president and his team should be watching for on the horizon?

00:20:53.940 Well, as you know, Jack, former Reagan Attorney General Ed Meese and a group of other august lawyers and law school professors filed an amicus brief with the U.S. Supreme Court,

00:21:09.000 in which they argued that the appointment of Jack Smith as special counsel was in itself illegal because Mr. Smith had never had his confirmation,

00:21:21.300 had never had his appointment confirmed by the U.S. Senate and had never been and was not at the time of his appointment a U.S. attorney,

00:21:30.780 which they argue, absent a particular special counsel law that lays out criteria different than that, that his underlying appointment is illegal.

00:21:42.080 Now, I'm very familiar with this argument.

00:21:44.920 One of the witnesses in my case, or one of the would-be witnesses in my case, Andrew Miller, did not want to testify.

00:21:54.180 He raised this article.

00:21:55.820 He litigated it separate from me.

00:21:58.520 The trial judge, of course, ruled against him.

00:22:02.540 Then he took it to the D.C. Court of Appeals.

00:22:05.960 They also ruled against him.

00:22:08.660 The time really ran out.

00:22:09.980 He could have taken it to the Supreme Court, but he would have done so while incarcerated because the trial was upon us.

00:22:18.660 In the end, of course, when he was ready to testify, they never called him to testify.

00:22:24.100 Now, what surprises me is Mises' document is extremely well-reasoned, well-written.

00:22:31.140 On the other hand, there's no obligation on the part of the Supreme Court to hear it.

00:22:37.220 And I would have thought that Trump's lawyers would have filed this action, if not in D.C., where the courts could rightfully say,

00:22:46.340 we've already decided this in the Miller case, he could certainly preserve the argument in Florida.

00:22:52.800 Now, maybe they still plan to do that.

00:22:54.400 I don't know.

00:22:54.960 I'm not a party to their legal strategy.

00:22:57.840 And as you know, I'm not a lawyer.

00:22:59.620 But it would seem to me that that would be an argument that is worth making.

00:23:05.740 I don't know how it would be adjudicated.

00:23:09.100 Having read it, it appears to me that they are correct.

00:23:12.580 That, of course, would end both the Florida and the D.C. indictments against Trump in both the document case and the January 6th case.

00:23:21.780 So it's hard to understand what's going on there.

00:23:24.340 Time is running out, though, something I'm going to be watching very carefully.

00:23:27.560 Well, and, of course, the Jack Smith case we've seen take a lot of twists and turns.

00:23:33.580 He's had his own issues in the court.

00:23:35.660 There was a ruling just down in the Florida case today, essentially, that he was trying to keep the witnesses sealed.

00:23:41.020 He was trying to keep evidence sealed.

00:23:42.720 That he lost with Judge Cannon.

00:23:45.000 The question, though, and you were talking about this a little bit before the break in the past segment, I'd love to get into,

00:23:51.240 because the question really does come down to deadlines.

00:23:53.940 And we've actually seen in the latest deadline outlook, as pertains to the January 6th case.

00:24:01.940 So this is the D.C. case, the J6 case. 0.85

00:24:04.260 This is the one with Tanya Chutkin.

00:24:05.460 There is a possibility where the case could begin somewhere towards the end of summer, early fall of 2024,

00:24:16.180 where the president is on trial during that final stretch of the presidential campaign.

00:24:21.720 And we're hearing this because I watch the left, and this is something that Roger Stone always told me to do,

00:24:28.160 keep an eye on what Andrew Weissman and MSNBC are talking about, because that's what will happen next,

00:24:33.180 that they are talking about potentially having a conviction of President Trump timed to essentially be their October surprise,

00:24:43.020 late October, right before people to go to vote on November 5th.

00:24:47.420 Do you view this as a potential challenge for the president?

00:24:52.280 I think you're right in your interpretation that that's now their best case.

00:24:56.520 And remember, they wanted to try Trump in January.

00:24:59.780 So just to review this, it took special counsel John Durham five years, five long years,

00:25:07.240 to conclude that there was no Russian collusion, no collusion between Russian intelligence and the Trump campaign.

00:25:13.780 He had to wait until the statute of limitations had run out so that Hillary Clinton and John Podesta

00:25:19.000 and Jake Sullivan and John Brennan and James Comey and Andrew McCabe and others, Peter Strzok, were not prosecuted.

00:25:30.700 So he ran out the clock to make sure nobody would be held responsible.

00:25:36.040 He also, while he completely debunked the authenticity of the Steele dossier, which we already knew,

00:25:42.320 and he documented the fact that the FISA court had been purposely misled,

00:25:48.600 he actually never addressed the question of the hacking of the Democratic National Committee,

00:25:55.080 which the government and the Democrats, as have alleged, was the target of an online hack,

00:26:02.520 which they have no evidence whatsoever of.

00:26:05.040 In fact, all of the forensic evidence is completely to the contrary.

00:26:09.080 As you know, Jack, I was not allowed to raise that issue in my defense,

00:26:14.560 even though I could have provided forensic evidence and expert testimony could have proven that.

00:26:20.940 And they're used to operating in secret.

00:26:23.300 So when I went to trial, I couldn't have the CrowdStrike report.

00:26:26.160 It was sealed and denied to me.

00:26:27.900 I couldn't have the government's evidence.

00:26:32.020 I should mention, seeing as we know that, of course, everyone's in high anticipation of this Tucker-Putin interview,

00:26:41.740 which will be coming out later this evening, we're planning on doing a live watch of it.

00:26:45.400 Do you think that's something that Tucker might ask?

00:26:49.540 It would be very easy.

00:26:50.860 I certainly hope so.

00:26:52.000 I mean, I've read snippets of a transcript.

00:26:54.480 I don't even know if that's real.

00:26:55.620 I do recall something I read where Tucker asked Putin directly whether he interfered in the election.

00:27:03.080 He said, we don't need to bother.

00:27:05.360 What you people don't understand is it doesn't matter in your country who wins.

00:27:08.600 The same people remain in charge.

00:27:11.100 A lot to that, unfortunately.

00:27:13.860 Indeed.

00:27:15.520 No, that's certainly something.

00:27:16.940 I mean, he said that before on other occasions, that there's no need to.

00:27:20.220 U.S. policy doesn't seem to change.

00:27:23.080 When you look at these cases going forward, and I think this is right, just from a political perspective then, of course,

00:27:31.680 the country is basically saying, or I should say the Democrats really are putting all their chips on this. 0.99

00:27:37.440 They know Joe Biden's a loser. 0.96

00:27:38.720 They know this guy can't run on his record. 0.99

00:27:40.840 They know they're trying to resurrect the abortion issue, trying to put that on multiple swing states,

00:27:46.860 really try to drive that in the Rust Belt.

00:27:48.600 But they sort of have this idea that if President Trump is convicted in one or any of these cases, that that is going to shift the race.

00:27:56.880 At this point, do you think that there's enough credibility in any of these cases that a conviction would actually carry the day for them?

00:28:04.620 So far, you'd have to say no.

00:28:07.740 I mean, it's counterintuitive, I recognize.

00:28:09.900 But let's be clear.

00:28:11.720 The more heavy-handed they are in these cases, the more that the possibility that the conviction doesn't hurt him.

00:28:20.000 So let's look at the Florida documents case.

00:28:22.600 They're basically saying, we want to put Trump on trial for retention of documents, but we can't tell him or you or the public what those documents were.

00:28:34.620 That's basically what they're saying.

00:28:37.020 How can any American look at that and take it seriously?

00:28:40.660 I mean, that will be seen as exactly what it is, a hit job.

00:28:45.260 So the more heavy-handed, the more draconian they are in denying Trump his rights and denying all of his pretrial motions, which I guarantee you will certainly happen in D.C., I think the greater the chances are that he could actually be convicted.

00:29:02.040 People see it as outrageous and political, and they vote for him anyway.

00:29:09.020 I think that's entirely possible.

00:29:10.940 It's a little too early to say that definitively that is what will happen, but I think that is a very real possibility.

00:29:20.800 You know, and this is something that I think of as well, because when I look at the – and I remember the Ron DeSantis campaign, the late, great Ron DeSantis campaign.

00:29:29.180 They pinned their entire hopes on the idea that if Donald Trump were convicted that voters would reel from him, they would recoil from him, they might embrace a sort of Trump-like type figure.

00:29:42.580 It was the exact opposite.

00:29:44.140 They got the psychology of the American voter and really the psychology of Americans completely wrong.

00:29:49.220 Their political instincts were, in fact, the opposite of what happened because it was a rally around the leader moment when originally was Alvin Bragg up in New York, a case that nobody even really seems to talk about anymore.

00:30:03.060 And then down in Florida and then all the rest of them, and we end up with big Fannie Willis down in Fulton County. 0.92

00:30:12.360 And we're coming up on a quick break, Roger, but the idea for me that one of these things is not already baked in.

00:30:19.460 I just don't see it.

00:30:20.620 I think there's enough people out there who say, I don't like what the government's doing to Trump, or there are people who say, I don't like Trump and I want to get him no matter what it is.

00:30:29.660 I don't think you're going to change anyone's opinion on Trump based on whether or not one of these cases come to fruition.

00:30:35.860 I'm not saying that he shouldn't fight them, by the way, but I just don't think the political calculus is that high of a percentage.

00:30:42.780 Now, again, when we're in some of these states that really, that really matters, we do, you know, every vote counts.

00:30:48.180 It is a marginal race, but I don't think this is the key path to victory for the Democrats.

00:30:53.400 Stay tuned.

00:30:53.940 One more block with Roger Stone.

00:30:55.720 Where is Jack?

00:31:01.080 Where is Jack?

00:31:03.220 Where is he?

00:31:04.500 Jack, I want to see you.

00:31:08.140 Great job, Jack.

00:31:09.600 Thank you.

00:31:10.380 What a job you do.

00:31:11.800 You know, we have an incredible thing.

00:31:13.180 We're always talking about the fake news and the bad, but we have guys, and these are the guys who should be getting Pulisic.

00:31:18.960 Jack, so we're back live, Washington, D.C., final block here with Roger Stone.

00:31:26.100 Roger, we were just talking about the political calculus on this, and I just think it's baked in.

00:31:31.120 I think it's baked in.

00:31:32.280 There are people who like Trump.

00:31:33.780 There are people who hate Trump.

00:31:34.860 And there are going to be people, and if there are any in the middle, who are looking at the situation, I think it's to your point.

00:31:43.560 I think the heavy-handedness of the way the government has operated through this is to their detriment.

00:31:49.120 It is not going to help them because the American people don't like being told who they can and can't vote for.

00:31:53.940 I think that's exactly right.

00:31:56.240 Look, the heavy-handed tactics that were used against me are what brought my case and the outrageousness of it to the attention of Donald Trump.

00:32:04.060 In the end, it's why I was pardoned.

00:32:06.040 He saw through what they were doing to me because they had never allowed me to put on any defense at all.

00:32:11.460 I will say this, though, Jack, and that is if the election is close, and it will be close,

00:32:16.580 and if those on the left intend to try to steal it again, one way to explain the fact that they went into Election Day trailing in the polls,

00:32:26.820 but there was some mysterious result, Joe Biden won half the swing states, would be saying,

00:32:31.400 oh, well, it was the last-minute conviction of Donald Trump that moved the election.

00:32:37.260 Now, I'm not saying that's a reality.

00:32:40.080 What I'm saying is that's a rhetorical device, that it's a false narrative,

00:32:44.180 that they may think about utilizing at the end of the race to justify yet another effort to steal the election in the various states.

00:32:56.500 I read on the Gateway Pundit the other night, for the first time ever,

00:33:00.760 I read a kind of a step-by-step of what happened in the Detroit Counting Center, which I'd never read before,

00:33:08.220 and it outraged me anew.

00:33:10.260 I had no idea what they were doing was so egregious and so obvious.

00:33:17.240 You know, Roger, speaking of the conduct of our elections, we know, and I think that most Americans now agree,

00:33:25.900 that there were some issues with that 2020 election, and the more you look into it, the worse it looks.

00:33:31.780 But the question that I have, and a lot of people have, is whether or not the Republican Party is ready for the next round of this,

00:33:38.560 this ballot-focused type of election.

00:33:41.760 And currently, the chair of the RNC, Ronna McDaniel, Ronna Romney McDaniel,

00:33:47.900 has this huge question over whether or not she will remain in her position.

00:33:52.400 Of course, Maggie Haberman, Jonathan Swan, reporting that she does intend to resign after the South Carolina primary.

00:33:59.620 President Trump had stated that he will make a decision after the South Carolina primary.

00:34:05.100 There's a huge chatterbox that's been opened up now, a huge Pandora's box over who might take that title,

00:34:12.720 and, as well, denials from her, not completely on record, but from what I hear,

00:34:18.300 she's been telling people that she intends to stay, and, of course, put out a statement therein.

00:34:23.200 Roger, what is going on at the RNC?

00:34:25.960 Well, first of all, it's important, Jack, to recognize that Ronna Romney McDaniel is a historical figure.

00:34:34.260 She's the first Republican national chairperson to provide, to preside over a losing presidential campaign

00:34:40.680 and to stay on for another term.

00:34:42.940 That has literally never happened in the entire history of the Republican Party.

00:34:47.960 By tradition, it is the nominee's prerogative to name the national party chairman,

00:34:55.340 and the party chairman does not have to be a member of the national committee.

00:35:00.680 And, of course, it is also, has always traditionally been the prerogative of a sitting president

00:35:05.900 to name the chairman of his own party.

00:35:09.020 So, she seems to be falling upward.

00:35:12.980 In other words, how many disastrous election cycles do we need to have

00:35:18.180 before we can recognize that she can't do the job? 0.97

00:35:21.460 Now, here's why it's important.

00:35:23.580 Under the law, the Republican National Committee can do certain things

00:35:27.780 in coordination with the presidential candidates' campaign

00:35:31.080 that can only be done by the national party from a legal and financial point of view.

00:35:36.760 So, it's important, first of all, that the party have, you know, filled coffers.

00:35:43.420 Nobody wants to give money to the Republican National Committee under the tutelage of

00:35:48.900 Ronna Romney, McDaniel, because of her track record, number one, of losing.

00:35:55.700 And, of course, she raised some $200 million for election integrity,

00:36:01.700 but she evidently didn't spend any of that money on election integrity. 0.99

00:36:06.600 Where was the effort to go into the various states to change state election law back to what it was pre-COVID?

00:36:13.840 That never happened.

00:36:16.260 Where were the funding for the audits?

00:36:19.260 The audit, for example, in Arizona, that was privately funded by General Flynn,

00:36:24.940 working with a group of others who went and raised the money for that.

00:36:29.180 That should have been a function of the Republican National Committee.

00:36:32.500 Fundraising is abysmal because nobody has any confidence in the chairwoman.

00:36:37.660 Then when you start looking where they did spend money,

00:36:40.540 on limousines, on flowers, on five-star resorts, on private jets,

00:36:46.620 even in comparison with the Democrat Party, it's embarrassing.

00:36:50.780 We're not spending the money to win elections.

00:36:53.100 We're spending money to have the chairwoman and others there live in a certain lifestyle. 1.00

00:37:00.920 It's not a good use of political money.

00:37:03.360 Now, I don't know who would succeed her.

00:37:09.320 Recognize how insular the Republican National Committee is.

00:37:13.960 First of all, the committee members all believe the chairperson and co-chairperson

00:37:18.520 should be a member of the committee.

00:37:21.220 That's not an absolute necessity, and it's certainly not a requirement.

00:37:25.800 Now, in the end, if the president names his choice, I'll support his choice, whoever it is that he names.

00:37:33.620 But I would suggest that what they ought to do, perhaps, is to look at the model that was used by Richard Nixon,

00:37:42.560 who appointed U.S. Senator Bob Dole, the head of the party, appointed Thomas B. Evans, Jr.,

00:37:48.920 later a congressman, as the co-chairman, but actually the operating officer, ran the day-to-day party.

00:37:55.380 I could see someone, this is just off the top of my head, Laura Trump would be an excellent party chairwoman, 0.93

00:38:02.760 or Eric Trump would be an excellent party chairperson.

00:38:06.780 Just two off-the-wall ideas.

00:38:10.220 But again, I don't know what the president's plan is.

00:38:13.560 I haven't been told.

00:38:14.680 I'll support whoever he supports.

00:38:16.900 But this is a vital job.

00:38:18.800 And if we don't build some confidence in the committee, then the committee will be unable to raise the money necessary.

00:38:26.880 Now, in terms of being ready for Election Day, I'm not counting on the National Committee.

00:38:32.280 I'm counting on the Trump campaign.

00:38:34.660 That has to be funded by the National Committee.

00:38:37.440 It can legally, Election Day activities, legal and technical, can be funded by the National Committee.

00:38:43.860 But I think they have to be driven by the Trump campaign.

00:38:47.240 And I've said this before.

00:38:49.360 I'm a veteran of 13 national presidential campaigns going all the way back to Richard Nixon.

00:38:55.120 This is, without any question, the best, the most well-planned, the most data-driven, the most effective,

00:39:05.180 the most disciplined presidential campaign I have ever seen.

00:39:09.220 I think, and it shows.

00:39:11.540 It shows in Iowa.

00:39:12.800 It shows in New Hampshire.

00:39:14.840 It's going to show tonight in Nevada.

00:39:17.860 It's going to show in a few days in South Carolina.

00:39:20.760 And then it's going to show on Super Tuesday.

00:39:22.980 So I think, I don't think I know.

00:39:26.740 There is a plan.

00:39:27.740 There is a working group within the Trump campaign working on an election integrity plan.

00:39:32.360 But that's still going to have to be funded by the RNC.

00:39:35.820 And we have to see how this plays out.

00:39:39.600 I hear the same things you do.

00:39:41.740 Maggie Haberman's very well-connected.

00:39:43.700 She's got great sources.

00:39:45.100 She has written that Ramna's leaving.

00:39:47.280 I hear Rana is telling people privately that she's not, not for the record.

00:39:51.840 Let's see how this plays out.

00:39:53.320 I predict to you in the end that Haberman will prove to be right.

00:39:56.280 Roger, that's just about enough time for us here.

00:40:00.560 I know you've got to run.

00:40:01.820 Where can people go to follow you?

00:40:03.320 Where can they get into the Stone Zone?

00:40:05.900 I appreciate that.

00:40:06.860 You can see the Stone Zone every day at rumble.com slash Roger Stone.

00:40:12.960 Rumble.com slash Roger Stone.

00:40:15.860 We're on at 8 o'clock p.m.

00:40:17.660 Or you can go to StoneZone.com where you can also watch the Stone Zone.

00:40:23.140 But you can also listen to my WABC radio show in New York.

00:40:27.060 That's on the site.

00:40:28.220 Also, you can go to WABCradio.com.

00:40:32.120 And, of course, if you want to get your Roger Stone Did Nothing Wrong t-shirt

00:40:35.320 or your signed Roger Stone paperweight or any of my books,

00:40:40.640 you can go to the store at StoneZone.com.

00:40:44.040 And God will bless you for it.

00:40:47.660 All right.

00:40:48.560 God bless Roger Stone.

00:40:49.860 Godspeed to you as well.

00:40:50.960 For folks out there, and, of course, people remember the great Nixon

00:40:54.440 and JFK episodes and specials that we have done with Roger,

00:40:59.140 make sure you go and get his books that will explain the details

00:41:03.820 of everything you thought you knew about those cases.

00:41:07.140 Stay tuned.

00:41:07.440 A little more coming up on Human Events Daily.

00:41:10.840 I'm always listening to Human Events with Jack Posobiec. 1.00

00:41:13.500 Tucker Carlson, who he's what's called a useful idiot. 0.98

00:41:15.880 I mean, if you actually read translations of what's being said on Russian media, 1.00

00:41:21.220 they make fun of him.

00:41:22.420 I mean, he's like a puppy dog.

00:41:24.140 You know, he somehow has, after having been fired from so many outlets in the United States,

00:41:30.180 he, I would not be surprised if he emerges with a contract with a Russian outlet 1.00

00:41:35.080 because he is a useful idiot. 1.00

00:41:37.760 He's a useful idiot. 1.00

00:41:39.260 He's a useful idiot. 1.00

00:41:40.080 Well, I apologize to the audience for not providing a trigger warning before showing 1.00

00:41:45.600 the Hilda Beast there. 0.93

00:41:47.220 We really do have to ask a question, ask a lot of questions about what to do with these people

00:41:55.020 like Hillary Clinton, but not just Hillary Clinton, also the neocons,

00:42:00.120 who are all attacking Tucker Carlson for just, just being this, this evil, despicable, angry, 0.88

00:42:10.680 resentful, traitorous, treasonous individual for sitting down and having conversation with 0.97

00:42:19.100 a world leader. 0.92

00:42:20.580 What should Tucker's punishment be, do you think, if we ask these people, should he be

00:42:26.240 drawn and quartered?

00:42:27.660 Should he be strung up? 1.00

00:42:29.760 Should he be machine gunned into a ditch? 1.00

00:42:32.740 Perhaps roundhouse kicked into a trash can? 1.00

00:42:36.200 Trapped in quicksand, stir fried in a wok?

00:42:39.080 I don't know.

00:42:40.660 I'm not entirely sure what will convince these people because you've got people on the left

00:42:44.880 and people on the right.

00:42:46.120 We call them the neolibs and the neocons.

00:42:48.080 The people on the left, and there's a difference between the types of anger at Tucker Carlson

00:42:54.680 right now.

00:42:55.300 And I would like to announce that we will be doing a super stream tonight, myself and

00:43:02.700 the ThoughtCrime gang, we're going to be doing tonight when the Tucker episode drops.

00:43:07.940 What we did was sort of a programming announcement.

00:43:10.640 We sort of did this on the fly.

00:43:11.980 We dropped ThoughtCrime an hour early, or I should say a day early this week, because

00:43:16.820 we knew that Thursday, when we normally do ThoughtCrime, would be a pretty big night,

00:43:20.940 historic night, Tucker Carlson, Vladimir Putin interview dropping.

00:43:25.300 So we decided instead, we did ThoughtCrime Wednesday, and that we would come in and do a live watch

00:43:32.240 along with the Tucker Carlson interview where we can pause, we can add commentary, whatever

00:43:38.000 you like.

00:43:38.480 So if you want to get into that watch along, we're going to be doing that exclusively on,

00:43:42.940 or I should say, no, it's not exclusive.

00:43:44.580 No, we're going to be doing it on a rumble.

00:43:45.860 And I'm going to attempt to bring it on X as well later tonight when the episode comes

00:43:50.660 out, we know 6 p.m. Eastern is when that episode is intended to come out.

00:43:55.680 And here's what it comes down to, folks.

00:43:57.700 You've got the neoliberals, Hillary Clinton, Victoria Newell. 1.00

00:44:01.100 And remember, Hillary Clinton was intrinsically linked to the Maidan coup, the overthrow of

00:44:07.160 the duly elected president of the, not the United States, but the president of Ukraine,

00:44:11.500 President Victoria and COVID.

00:44:12.920 That was 10 years ago this month.

00:44:15.720 I believe next week is the actual 10th anniversary of the overthrow.

00:44:20.880 Talking to Raheem Kassam, we might be doing a little something special about that because

00:44:24.660 he was actually there in Maidan when this all happened a decade ago, a full decade.

00:44:29.680 That's how long this has been happening.

00:44:31.200 Immediately after that, of course, Putin went in and connected the annexation of Crimea.

00:44:36.900 That's what kicks off this entire series of events.

00:44:40.600 So Hillary Clinton was a huge part of this.

00:44:43.540 And her leave behinds, like Vicky Newland and others at the State Department, Vicky 0.57

00:44:48.200 Newland and her cookies, the color revolution dominatrix there of Vicky Newland, who, of

00:44:55.720 course, was just in Ukraine.

00:44:57.120 By the way, in Ukraine as well, we know that today there is breaking news that actually happened

00:45:01.840 even after the interview was taped between Tucker and Putin.

00:45:05.000 So they won't be able to mention this, I'm sure.

00:45:06.540 But that Zeluzhny, who is the general of the Ukrainian military, very popular within Ukraine,

00:45:12.960 has been fired, summarily fired by Zelensky.

00:45:16.720 Siersky has been, General Siersky has been appointed as his replacement.

00:45:21.840 There's a huge instability going on right now in the Ukrainian military.

00:45:26.200 We're not sure whether or not Zeluzhny and his supporters are going to retaliate in some

00:45:31.660 way against Zelensky.

00:45:32.660 I've been saying for a long time that Ukraine is at the precipice of a military coup right

00:45:38.720 now.

00:45:39.080 Zelensky is hanging by an absolute thread.

00:45:41.660 Him summarily firing the head of the military is a huge, huge issue for them.

00:45:47.280 Obviously, shows that their war effort is not going the way they want it to.

00:45:52.260 And of course, the Ukrainian parliament, the Vokovarada, just passed earlier today a new

00:45:58.080 conscription bill where they plan to conscript, press into service, up to 500,000 more Ukrainians,

00:46:05.820 men and women.

00:46:07.140 I'm not even sure where they're going to find them because they've pretty much run out of

00:46:10.620 substantial numbers of military-age males at this point.

00:46:13.300 So on one end, you've got the neolib, like Hillary Clinton, Victoria Nuland, Tony Blinken,

00:46:19.580 Biden, others.

00:46:20.900 Obama's kind of in this stripe as well, where they want to continue the process of globalism.

00:46:25.720 But at the other end, you've got neocons.

00:46:28.060 Neocons are a problem. 1.00

00:46:30.280 Neocons deserve to be bullied. 1.00

00:46:32.220 And hopefully neocons will eventually be summarily removed from the America First movement.

00:46:38.700 There's nothing more opposite than America First than being a neocon.

00:46:45.020 It's as simple as that.

00:46:46.640 These countries all around the world are not part of the United States.

00:46:51.040 Ukraine is not part of the United States.

00:46:53.260 Israel is not part of the United States.

00:46:55.220 It's Mexico, China, Taiwan, all of these countries, Afghanistan, Iraq, et cetera, et cetera.

00:47:01.300 They're not part of the United States.

00:47:03.580 And so when it comes to our dealings with these countries, we must decide what is in the best

00:47:09.460 and most opportune interest of the American people.

00:47:14.520 And right now, what's best and of the most opportune interest, by the way, the Senate,

00:47:18.560 the Senate just went and passed the foreign aid bill.

00:47:21.260 It's passed.

00:47:21.740 It's already passed.

00:47:22.820 It's already out.

00:47:23.440 62 votes.

00:47:24.900 All right.

00:47:25.120 They got all the votes they needed from the Democrats.

00:47:27.400 This thing passed.

00:47:28.060 It's going through.

00:47:28.660 We'll see what happens in the House.

00:47:30.960 We have a huge fight going on, right?

00:47:33.140 And the fight is whether or not we're going to secure our border versus the borders of other 0.99

00:47:37.340 countries.

00:47:38.360 And it's simple.

00:47:39.140 If you're America first, that means you support that and you support America subtracting itself 0.96

00:47:45.700 and extracting itself from this globalist system.

00:47:49.680 We are not the world police.

00:47:51.400 We're not going to run around conducting these wars of adventure anymore.

00:47:54.480 I don't care how much you want it.

00:47:56.100 I don't care how many Zelensky t-shirts you want to sell on your websites.

00:47:59.980 No, we're done.

00:48:01.920 We are unplugged.

00:48:03.720 The American people are rising up and the American people are standing up for their system

00:48:10.960 of government because they want a government like the one Bukele just delivered down in 0.99

00:48:16.680 El Salvador.

00:48:17.780 Lock up the criminals and put the rights of honest citizens first.

00:48:23.900 And if you do that, you will see Bukele just got the largest landslide in elected government

00:48:31.420 history, 85%, possibly higher once results come out.

00:48:36.660 It's as simple as that, folks.

00:48:38.340 Law and order, lock up the criminals, stop getting involved in these wars overseas.

00:48:44.000 Neocons get the boot. 0.98

00:48:46.580 You're getting the boot.

00:48:47.860 So Tucker, Godspeed to you.

00:48:50.420 Understand he's left fresh already.

00:48:52.700 Stay safe.

00:48:53.760 Ladies and gentlemen, be later.

00:48:55.480 And as always, you have my permission to lay assured.

00:49:01.420 We'll be right back.

00:49:02.080 Let's go.

00:49:02.440 We'll be right back.

00:49:02.880 We'll be right back.

00:49:04.620 We'll be right back.

00:49:07.160 We'll be right back.

00:49:09.260 We'll be right back.

00:49:10.360 All right.

00:49:10.680 We'll be right back.

00:49:11.160 We'll be right back.

00:49:11.880 We'll be right back.

00:49:12.540 We'll be right back.

00:49:13.420 We'll be right back.

00:49:14.240 We'll be right back.

00:49:14.920 We'll be right back.

00:49:15.700 We'll be right back.

00:49:17.260 We'll be right back.

00:49:22.240 He'll be right back.

00:49:23.400 We'll be right back.

00:49:25.700 We'll be right back.

00:49:27.420 Guys, we'll be right back.

Human Events Daily with Jack Posobiec - February 08, 2024

EPISODE 667： SUPREME COURT SMACKDOWN, COLORADO SET TO LOSE BIG ON TRUMP ELIGIBILITY CASE

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