Imagine living in a country where you can be arrested for what you post on the internet, like a tweet or a meme. Imagine living in that country, where the government takes the political opposition, those who oppose the current ruler of the regime, and puts them on show trial in front of an election.
00:04:20.580People like Mark Angst, of Pennsylvania, awaiting sentencing, hurt nobody.
00:04:27.260People like George Meacham, 22 years old, of Utah, awaiting trial, hurt no one, committing suicide.
00:04:39.920Or even maybe an unarmed, or should I say, even a 53-year-old man, Christopher Stanton, Georgia, an investment banker, leaving behind a wife and two little girls,
00:04:56.840Fulton County, Georgia, who died of a self-inflicted gunshot wound in his family home.
00:05:01.460Or maybe even a 12-year veteran of the United States Air Force, an unarmed woman named Ashley Babbitt, shot in the neck by a Capitol Police officer.
00:05:16.540Imagine living in a country like that.
00:05:18.440And imagine living in a country where the current head of the government is attempting to throw their political opposition in prison for 700 years, who wants them to die in prison.
00:05:33.840And a media, if you will, imagine a world.
00:05:36.960Imagine a world where the media tells you that this is all normal, that this is all what should be going on.
00:05:42.120And then the same media will tell you that you need to be very, very concerned with something that happened tens of thousands of miles away from America's borders,
00:05:50.080while not talking about the crackdowns and the deaths of dissidents that are taking place in this country right now.
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00:08:11.980I wake up every day and I thank my lucky stars that, but look, the fact is, is the country that we live in, just to break character for a minute,
00:08:22.120has lost all legitimacy to be able to call out foreign countries for their mistreatment or mysterious deaths of dissidents.
00:08:32.600It has now become the calling card of the Biden regime to essentially emulate everything we use to sanction or call an attack on democracy when it's done by a foreign dictator.
00:08:43.700They're locking up foreign dissidents, censoring their speech, putting gag orders on them, you know, using the instruments of the executive branch to target their businesses in terms of regulatory crackdowns
00:09:02.000and in terms of justice department assaults or in this case, the FTC and SEC and countless other works that are going after all the enemies of the states,
00:09:12.620going after the lawyers, going after journalists, raiding homes of journalists.
00:09:16.700All of this would be essentially a NATO human rights violation, inviting air raids and regime change if Gaddafi had done it or if Khomeini had done it.
00:09:30.720But when, you know, when Biden does it, I mean, look, the whole world knows now.
00:09:36.200I mean, Bukele in El Salvador is calling this out.
00:09:39.500And, you know, I think I think we've lost legitimacy to argue about tyranny.
00:09:46.700Well, this is an interesting situation because prior to this, the United States sort of positioned itself geopolitically because we are in a new Cold War in a sense.
00:09:57.400However, we are the ones and in this version of Cold War 2.0, it's the not just the United States, but, you know, the rules based international order.
00:10:05.900And then the international rules based order is what is currently attempting to expand these rules across the entire globe.
00:10:18.880And so, you know, they'll say, well, this is against the rules based order for when something happens in Russia, when something happens in China, when something happens in Iran.
00:10:26.260And now typically you would say, OK, well, we all agree that that shouldn't happen.
00:10:30.340But if we come back to the United States, we say, wait a minute, you are doing the exact same thing back at home that you are accusing other countries of breaking when you're breaking the rules based order.
00:10:42.320And I've already seen a lot of the neocons, you know, kind of responding to some of this and trying to make these these strange arguments and say, well, you know, Trump's getting a trial and Trump's getting due process.
00:10:54.200Yes. I mean, really, did you did you watch the prosecutors yesterday down in Fulton County?
00:10:59.340Does that really look like due process this where they admit under testimony that, yes, they are taking the money from the public offers that's been allotted to them and participating in sex trips around the world with each other?
00:11:12.360And that's essentially what they're doing while they're prosecuting the current political opposition.
00:11:16.920This type of show trial is a response.
00:11:22.420He can just show this and say, look, look at what they're doing.
00:11:25.200Look at what they're doing to their political opposition.
00:11:27.700And and it gives him essentially a free card or it gives any Tim Pot dictator.
00:11:32.860I'm not, you know, I'm not saying this is one for one, but it gives them a way to respond, because if you've lost moral legitimacy, then you can't exert that geopolitically taught.
00:11:41.480Walk me through some of the geopolitical issues here.
00:12:09.800You know, Navalny never broke the two percent mark in polling in Russia when he ran for president against Putin.
00:12:17.800He never had more than two percent of the vote.
00:12:22.300Donald Trump is currently winning in the in the polling averages against Joe Biden.
00:12:28.380That is, he's breaking the 50 percent mark.
00:12:31.860He is on track to win in all seven battleground states.
00:12:35.640And the real clear politics, which tends to be very centrist about these things, you know, has him up like five points right now, including with young people and Hispanics.
00:12:46.420So, I mean, if Navalny was not, you know, two percent, but but over 50 percent was on track to beat Putin and he did this, the scandal would have been on the international stage would have been, you know, 25 times the magnitude if he was 25 times more popular.
00:13:02.840But the fact is, is he wasn't, which makes what the U.S. is doing 25 times worse, frankly, because it's it's even it's it is, so to speak, 25 times more political.
00:13:14.160And make no mistake, if the Justice Department wins its rigged case in D.C., Trump will die in prison.
00:13:24.040OK, like if I can just like zone in on the camera and say that clearly, this man is on trial for 700 years of stacking charges, totally unnecessary and on novel theories in every case.
00:13:36.760700 years. Donald Trump is not going to live to 777 years old.
00:13:41.980OK, if the Justice Department wins and Biden gets what he wants, Trump will die in prison like Navalny.
00:13:50.040So how can that same apparatus argue it's wrong when Russia does it?
00:13:54.420Russia can say he had a trial just like you're giving Trump.
00:13:57.040And, you know, it took two and a half centuries for us to build our reputation as being a bastion of freedom and due process and free speech.
00:14:04.960And it took about two and a half years into the Biden administration to bring it all down.
00:14:08.480And I'll never forget this because, you know, being here in Washington, D.C., I've seen I saw the Obama inauguration.
00:14:17.760I guess the second one, not the first one I saw.
00:14:19.860I was there at the Trump inauguration and I was there at the Biden inauguration, which no one attended because in order to get in, you had to get past armed soldiers.
00:14:30.480Soldiers. Nancy Pelosi apparently had said she wanted pillboxes at one point and a crew served gun emplacements.
00:14:38.960There was nobody on the national lawn.
00:14:41.140And I'll never forget that that's the way the Biden administration was ushered into power, like something out of the Hunger Games, like some kind of regime where on television they acted as if it was this wonderful flowery event.
00:14:53.860But if you were there in person like I was, I had a media pass and I was working in the area that you could see that none of it was real.
00:15:00.840And in fact, the soldiery were going around and I have a periscope from around this time where I was I was videoing.
00:15:07.220I think it was the night before. And I actually get stopped briefly by the soldiers and asked to show my credentials.
00:15:13.100As I'm walking down the street in the nation's capital, simply holding up my phone, getting asked with the barbed wire and the Constantino wire that's up there.
00:15:23.020By the way, the wire that we're not allowed to have in Texas, they're currently suing again to get rid of in Texas.
00:15:28.660They had that up all around the center, the central locus of our national power of our country at on day one, day one Biden regime.
00:15:39.020I was, you know, I didn't have a press pass, but I was in D.C. at the time, too.
00:15:43.300And it was every street corner, you know, National Guard with the biggest guns you've ever seen.
00:15:48.520I mean, these just it was everywhere. M60s.
00:15:52.340Yeah, it was a military occupation of the Capitol ushering in democracy, you know.
00:15:58.840And, you know, they, of course, use this January.
00:16:01.140They, of course, use this January 6th pretext, which, again, no people were killed by those protesters.
00:16:07.400And the whole thing lasted three hours and three quarters of it was basically a glorified meme with almost no property damning.
00:16:16.700I mean, and that was the pretext weeks later, you know, to to, you know, I mean, a lot of that, I think, was was performance art.
00:16:26.300I mean, frankly, I think some of it was just a show of power.
00:16:30.100But but, you know, this idea that a military was needed for this.
00:16:35.200But, you know, the fact is, is, you know, that military rule in a certain sense, that military occupation persists.
00:16:42.300It was, in fact, that same sort of military blob that you can argue was responsible for bringing down Trump term 1.0 between the Ukraine impeachment, between the Milley betrayals, between the Esper betrayals, between the, you know, the CIA and State Department, which are, you know, inversions and deep state bureaucracy there.
00:17:02.340I just put a clip on my timeline yesterday from the former CIA director during the Bush term saying during the Trump term, thank God for the deep state.
00:17:11.920And, you know, it was that same sort of Pentagon deep state apparatus that was responsible, not just for ushering Biden in visibly, but kicking Trump out politically.
00:17:25.880Right. And of course, by the way, to your point on that, this all of this plays a role in the guidance or should I say the allowance of speech on the Internet, which has become the new public square.
00:17:38.720It directly plays a role, what you and I are talking about, because we got a quick break coming up here.
00:17:44.260Donald Trump was banned from Twitter 1.0 for what?
00:17:48.140Not January 6th for saying that he wouldn't attend the Biden inauguration and Twitter 1.0 when they had the backdoor with the FBI at the time that we all know about now, Yole Roth, claimed that that was a call to attack Biden's inauguration when Trump tweeted that he wasn't attending.
00:18:07.240That is the officially stated reason for why president of the United States sitting was taking off of Twitter.
00:18:13.240Mike Benz joins me and we continue this conversation here at Human Events Daily.
00:18:19.400Hey, you know, they talk about influencers.
00:18:21.940These are influencers and they're friends of mine.
00:18:31.140All right, Jack Prasovic back live, Human Events Daily.
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00:19:54.920Benz, you just dropped an interview with Tucker Carlson, you know, really encapsulating, I think, so much of what we're talking about here is that there is a direct tie between the military, from the military apparatus, to the censorship we saw online.
00:20:10.180They tried this at first with, it all goes back, by the way, to that inauguration, because what was the very first thing that we were told would be done with those National Guard troops, which were sent to J6.
00:20:22.520By the way, the Biden administration had no problem sending National Guardsmen from all over the country for January, you know, the inauguration.
00:20:29.400But God forbid you try to do that for our own border, where there's an actual daily threat that we can see every single day.
00:20:37.820But if you send them to the border for an invisible threat that doesn't actually exist and exists about as much as the, you know, the gaslight going on and off in that old movie.
00:20:48.360I love both versions, the American and the British.
00:20:49.880And if you remember what they were doing, they were vetting the National Guardsmen by going through their Facebook pages to see what they liked, whether or not they liked the National Rifle Association, whether they liked the GOP,
00:21:11.160whether they had pictures of Red Hats, whether they liked Young Americans Foundation, Turning Point USA, some of these very basic concern, you know, areas of activism for what?
00:21:43.740So, I mean, in that case, on the January 6th front, there's so we have these conspiracy agencies.
00:21:51.340You know, I sometimes joke that if you want to get rid of conspiracy theories, maybe a good start would be getting rid of conspiracy agencies.
00:21:57.920You know, the entire purpose of having a national security clearance system and classified documents and agencies like the Central Intelligence Agency,
00:22:08.480who by charter operate with what's called plausible deniability, meaning they are under a mandate to conspire and then lie about what they're doing and deny it publicly
00:22:22.560so that the State Department can get away with it without it having the blood on their hands, so to speak.
00:22:29.980So, you know, there was a big push after Trump won the 2016 election to censor so-called, you know, conspiracy theories on the Internet.
00:22:38.240This is everything from, you know, rumors around child sex trafficking involvement with the Clinton campaign and her campaign manager, John Podesta,
00:22:47.480with things like Pizzagate, all the way up to just, you know, totally ordinary course actions that the Pentagon, the State Department or the intelligence community were doing.
00:22:58.640And on that January 6th front, one of the things that they also did to purge dissidents from – to purge MAGA-leaning Republicans from the military was they –
00:23:10.640a bill was entered in early 2021 to try to get – to try to ban the ability by law of anybody who held a national security clearance would have their security clearance revoked
00:23:26.260or would not be able to get a future security clearance if they believed in or were found to have ever believed in a conspiracy theory.
00:23:34.600It was literally that naked. It was if you – and they didn't even bother to, you know, define what that meant.
00:23:41.520I forget the name of the senator who put this up. But, you know, they basically did an ideological purge.
00:23:49.780You know, there was a guy named Bishop Garrison who was installed in the military to do this kind of DEI sweep of the military,
00:23:57.300which included, you know, basically anyone who was MAGA was considered to be, you know, kind of a – had to get their minds straightened or get kicked out.
00:24:08.940And then, you know, but the military itself is essentially the architect of the – or at least the enforcement arm of the censorship industry.
00:24:17.560You know, the – everything from the creation of the censorship technology on the AI side to funding for censorship mercenary firms in the private sector to censorship thought leadership.
00:24:29.940I mean, this really all started with NATO.
00:24:31.840After the 2014 Ukraine coup, NATO was not expecting the Russian backstopped counter coup that basically cleaved off Crimea in eastern Ukraine.
00:24:41.800And NATO thought at that point that we needed to basically purge any sort of Russian influence from the internet, from social media, and from traditional media,
00:24:53.180because they feared that Russia was essentially winning this sort of Cold War 2.0 if they could – since they had managed to persuade the entire eastern half of Ukraine,
00:25:04.160as well as Crimea, that it would be in their interest to essentially join the Russian Federation or to be more sympathetic to Russia than to NATO.
00:25:14.280So NATO and the Pentagon and the British Ministry of Defense all teamed up to create these psychological warfare centers – they called them these NATO Centers of Excellence –
00:25:26.160and to create a whole new doctrine called hybrid warfare, which explicitly expanded NATO's mandate, in the words of Jen Steltenberg, from tanks to tweets.
00:25:35.880So one month after Brexit happened, at a meeting in Warsaw, NATO's charter was formally amended for this tanks to tweets doctrine,
00:25:47.100which basically argued that we need to be in the business not just of crushing enemy tanks, but of censoring enemy tweets.
00:25:55.420Oh, and by the way, who's an enemy? It's not just Russians.
00:25:58.200It's anyone that the Russians might support ideologically, domestically, which meant if the Trump movement was calling for a detente with Russia or for peace with Russia,
00:26:09.440then the Trump movement could be censored under this tanks to tweets doctrine.
00:26:14.020If Putin or Russia had an interest in Brexit, well, then the Nigel Farage movement could be labeled essentially –
00:26:25.040it could be caught up in the crosshairs of a NATO censorship operation.
00:26:28.120Same thing with Spexit with the Vox Party in Spain or Alternative for Deutschland in Germany or the Matteo Savini movement in Italy.
00:26:38.980One after another, you could control every EU parliamentary election and the U.S. election by pumping these censorship mercenary firms full of Pentagon cash,
00:26:50.780full of State Department cash, full of CIA personnel, in order to effectuate, in cahoots with their Pentagon and NATO advisors,