Human Events Daily with Jack Posobiec - EPISODE 680： REGIME WAR UKRAINE, MIGRANT WAR AT HOME

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00:00:30.000 This is what happens when the fourth turning meets fifth generation warfare.

00:00:40.400 A commentator, international social media sensation, and former Navy intelligence veteran.

00:00:46.800 This is Human Events with your host, Jack Posobiec.

00:00:50.040 Deliver us from evil.

00:00:51.720 Welcome to the end of democracy.

00:00:54.740 We're here to overthrow it completely.

00:00:56.400 We didn't get all the way there on January 6th, but we will endeavor to get rid of it and replace it with this right here.

00:01:04.060 We'll replace it with this right here.

00:01:05.760 All right. Amen.

00:01:07.000 That's right.

00:01:07.660 Because all glory is not to government.

00:01:10.520 All glory to God.

00:01:12.120 If I were the Biden campaign, I would pay to have every American see the CPAC convention, because the thing that has been thwarting Republicans in the midterms and since has been this impression of the Republican Party as an extreme party.

00:01:29.100 Yesterday, you had someone stand up at the CPAC convention, a speaker, and basically talk about, we almost toppled democracy on January 6th.

00:01:38.740 We're going to do it now with this.

00:01:40.600 And he held up a cross, basically advocating for theocracy.

00:01:44.260 These are the very people who are pushing Trumpism into the future.

00:01:48.240 They're pushing Trumpism into the future, and they're saying it like they're being patriotic when, in fact, they're being the opposite.

00:01:57.740 Yeah.

00:01:58.200 When you see them using the Bible in a distorted way, but even if they were using it in an actual way, that is against what the country was founded on.

00:02:10.840 Following some breaking news out of Athens, Georgia.

00:02:14.440 Two colleges have canceled classes today as police look for a murderer.

00:02:19.300 Lake and Riley was described as a shining light.

00:02:22.620 Dean's List nursing student.

00:02:24.140 Police arrested 26-year-old Jose Antonio Ibarra.

00:02:27.360 Ibarra crossed into Texas illegally back in September of 2022, then was released into the United States on parole.

00:02:35.100 Are you confident this border's secure?

00:02:36.760 We have a secure border.

00:02:39.040 We agree that the border is secure.

00:02:41.520 And we have a process in place to manage migrants at the border.

00:02:44.840 The border is closed.

00:02:46.620 The border is secure.

00:02:48.300 We have taken unprecedented action.

00:02:50.180 Look, the border is not open.

00:02:51.560 Fox News can now confirm that Jose Antonio Ibarra was busted last year in New York City.

00:02:57.700 But ICE didn't even have time to put in a detainer on him because, hey, he was already back out in the streets.

00:03:03.840 Ladies and gentlemen, welcome aboard.

00:03:06.320 Today's edition of Human Events Daily, live from Washington, D.C.

00:03:11.940 Today's February 27th, 2024.

00:03:13.940 I'm Dominique.

00:03:15.600 So, promised a response to Morning Mika, who was very unsettled about me, the comments I made at CPAC.

00:03:26.580 Mika, when you see what's going on to the people of this country, when you see what's happening to regular folks out there, like the families of Lake and Riley,

00:03:43.940 is this really the most important thing that's going on in the world, is this really the most important thing that's going on in our country?

00:03:54.640 I'm going to read for you the affidavit for arrest on Jose Ibarra, the Venezuelan illegal alien, who had been released from custody in New York City after endangering a child, then went down to Georgia.

00:04:16.480 His brother lived there.

00:04:17.260 He was arrested in Georgia for crimes against Lake and Hope Riley in the state of Georgia.

00:04:31.220 The prosecutor further states that the accused, Jose Antonio Ibarra, did commit the offense of aggregated battery when he maliciously caused bodily harm to another by seriously disfiguring her body or a member thereof by disfiguring her skull.

00:04:52.560 So, Lake and Hope Riley, 22 years old, at the University of Georgia, she was a nursing student down there, out for a jog, just out for a jog.

00:05:07.380 And this depraved animal chased her down, beat her, and savaged her body so much that he disfigured her skull.

00:05:28.700 And more than Mika's upset at me for holding up a rosary.

00:05:32.520 Well, you know something, Mika?

00:05:34.900 I do think it's time for a little bit more prayer in this country.

00:05:38.340 I think it's about time we have a little bit more turning towards the cross in this country because we can see what's being run amok across our border, across our land.

00:05:50.580 You want to talk about someone, some conflict going on 10,000 miles away?

00:05:54.820 How about the one that's going on right here in our own country?

00:05:58.460 Deport every single last one of them.

00:06:04.220 No more Lake and Rileys. 0.95

00:06:07.640 No more Lake and Rileys. 0.96

00:06:09.580 Deport them all.

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00:06:47.520 All right, Jack Posobiec back live here.

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00:07:51.660 So we're walking through here.

00:07:53.660 The regime, once you focused abroad, the wars abroad, the war in Ukraine, the regime war there.

00:08:00.920 And that is what it is.

00:08:01.780 It is a regime war.

00:08:03.340 Talk now of NATO countries, rumors upon rumors that NATO countries may get involved.

00:08:10.520 This is something I've been warning about for a long time.

00:08:12.900 And then meanwhile, we turn and we hear that our nursing students are being bludgeoned to death

00:08:19.960 and having their skulls disfigured by illegal aliens running rampant over our country. 0.85

00:08:26.560 Hopefully, and Morning Mika, of course, is very upset that I held up a rosary at CPAC. 1.00

00:08:30.820 So, and I said something very, very naughty about democracy.

00:08:35.200 So helping to make sense of all this, Darren Beattie from Revolver News joins us now.

00:08:41.720 Darren, we know that we, you know, you're a noted democracy respecter, as among other things.

00:08:49.240 Walk me through some of this.

00:08:50.720 We see this incredible story that comes out of the New York Times yesterday,

00:08:54.680 admitting for the first time ever publicly, the CIA's involvement in the Maidan coup,

00:08:59.480 we're at the 10-year anniversary of this,

00:09:01.240 admitting that the CIA was training these elite commando units in Ukraine,

00:09:07.200 which we find out, by the way, at the end of the article,

00:09:09.200 that they went a little bit rogue and started conducting assassination campaigns

00:09:12.880 and terror campaigns within Russia.

00:09:16.380 We know, of course, that's gone on to include attacks on high-level Russian individuals,

00:09:24.120 like Alexander Dugan killing his daughter.

00:09:27.260 And now we get this, the same time, we get this horrific story inside the United States

00:09:32.620 that they don't seem to want to talk about.

00:09:34.180 What's going on?

00:09:36.520 Well, there's a lot to talk about.

00:09:38.320 And in fact, I think this New York Times piece is a real bombshell.

00:09:42.040 There are a number of critical and salient points that I think we need to cover.

00:09:48.740 And I encourage everyone listening to this, if you haven't already,

00:09:52.520 go and actually read the piece and follow along and reinforce what we're talking about.

00:09:57.980 So as you point out, it acknowledged the CIA's involvement in the Euromaidan coup.

00:10:06.680 For those who've high-information people who watch your show and read revolver.news

00:10:11.460 will know that this is one of the paradigmatic examples of what we call the color revolution.

00:10:16.420 And in fact, in our original Color Revolution series, now kind of classic series that we did

00:10:22.400 in Revolver.news, Euromaidan figured prominently as the theater of operations for one Victoria Nuland,

00:10:32.780 the kind of preeminent dominatrix of the color revolution methodology, as it were.

00:10:40.180 And what was this?

00:10:41.840 Well, it was a pretty egregious, flagrant case of election meddling, to put it mildly.

00:10:50.520 Basically, the Western powers, principally the U.S., principally the State Department and CIA,

00:10:57.000 did what they're known for, which is overthrowing governments.

00:11:00.040 And they used utilizing this color revolution framework, mass mobilization in the streets,

00:11:05.840 buttressed by nonstop propaganda, leveraging media sources, leveraging NGOs.

00:11:13.440 George Soros, of course, had a big hand in this and other sort of equivalents.

00:11:19.020 Within Russia, people like oligarchs in Russia, I guess, castaway oligarchs,

00:11:24.180 people like Boris Berezovsky and others.

00:11:26.140 So all the kind of usual suspects were involved in this conspicuous case of basically toppling over

00:11:33.520 a elected leader who was sympathetic to Russia in some respects and installing a Western puppet

00:11:41.100 who's acknowledged in this New York Times piece to have a very deep and direct relationship

00:11:47.500 with the CIA that's Poroshenko.

00:11:50.380 So that's sort of some of the background to this.

00:11:54.780 Now, as the article progresses, you talk about the assassination thing,

00:11:58.680 there's this sort of weird subtext where they're like the CIA was doing this little courtship dance

00:12:05.280 with their Ukrainian counterparts and they didn't they wanted to keep the boundary of no lethal assistance.

00:12:11.540 But it was sort of wink, wink, nod, nod.

00:12:13.920 It's like they gave them all of this training and equipment that could be used for defensive capabilities,

00:12:19.160 but they fully recognize that they could also be used offensively as well.

00:12:23.860 It's like it's completely ridiculous, right?

00:12:25.780 Yeah, it's it's right. 0.77

00:12:26.860 They're describing it as it was a I said yesterday on the show.

00:12:29.760 It sounds like they're describing a hinge relationship that didn't go quite the way they panned out.

00:12:34.960 Right.

00:12:35.700 No, I mean, it's totally foreseeable.

00:12:37.400 And again, this is like the wink, wink, nod, nod, plausible deniable.

00:12:40.660 Like, oh, I can't believe they did this.

00:12:43.280 You know, I can imagine in some instances the Ukrainian forces acting with a little bit too much enthusiasm

00:12:48.400 and maybe overstepping the boundaries prescribed by Washington.

00:12:54.580 But, you know, there's a number of interesting things.

00:12:57.880 One is that at a particularly critical point in which these trained Ukrainian forces were basically engaged in terrorist attacks,

00:13:05.140 like setting up explosives to blow up, you know, train tracks and various transportation routes

00:13:11.320 in anticipation of possible Russian mobilizations and so forth.

00:13:16.880 When this got back.

00:13:17.800 And actually, Darren, this this would I this is what I really wanted to drill down on, actually.

00:13:22.100 So don't bury the lead here.

00:13:23.380 That it sounds like the CIA was training up another proxy force yet again, training all these Ukrainian nationalists 0.92

00:13:30.160 the same way, you know, not not even a decade prior.

00:13:34.080 It was these or I guess it was actually in parallel with this.

00:13:38.680 If you actually lay the timelines out, they were training these units in Ukraine.

00:13:41.780 At the same time, they were training the, quote unquote, moderate jihadis in Syria

00:13:46.420 because they thought they could knock off Assad.

00:13:48.600 Now, of course, the Ukraine situation, this, of course, this was targeted at Putin.

00:13:53.080 Eventually, there was going to be this some some push to foment these operations across the border.

00:13:58.100 And eventually, the target was always going to be the Kremlin.

00:14:02.320 Then then, just like in Syria, where the proxy force completely breaks off and essentially turns into what became ISIS.

00:14:09.820 Now you have these proxies going on to become, number one, the head of the entire Ukrainian military intelligence.

00:14:16.880 This guy, Budinov, but also conducting a series of assassinations.

00:14:21.100 They're going after civilians in the Donetsk.

00:14:24.100 They're going after these they're conducting these terror attacks.

00:14:26.880 So I'm almost wondering, is is this sort of like a letter to this, you know, almost to the Kremlin saying,

00:14:34.380 hey, we didn't order any of that.

00:14:36.460 Just FYI, please, when you start rolling up our guys in Ukraine, I laugh, but it's it's it's it's ridiculous, but it's actually quite dark that, you know, they're they're knowing that when Russia starts rolling up their guys in Ukraine,

00:14:48.660 they're saying, please don't, you know, give us the reprisals that we probably justly deserve for this.

00:14:54.240 Yeah, that's an interesting question as to sort of the the meta story of this piece, like what political purpose does it serve?

00:15:06.200 Before getting into that, though, just there's some other some other points in the article.

00:15:10.140 One was so they're basically Ukrainian operatives, trained operatives are caught red handed, stepping far outside of the prescribed boundaries given to them by their basically their Washington handlers.

00:15:23.680 And the one thing that salvaged that frayed relationship was the ostensible need for Ukrainian help in exposing and providing intelligence in relation to Russian meddling in the election.

00:15:45.380 So it is very interesting to see as part of like a really important sort of sub theme within the article is the degree to which I guess geopolitical rationality in some ways is completely sacrificed to this fool's gold obsession with Russian meddling in the election.

00:16:08.660 That's one thing that really struck me.

00:16:10.880 The other thing that struck me that's really interesting, and in fact, it's not surprising to those who serve in the Trump administration, but maybe to people who follow these things casually, is that they said, well, everyone was very concerned in 2016 was Trump was running and he seemed to have a cozy relationship with Putin, you know, whatever that means.

00:16:31.460 It's a kind of ridiculous statement, but they said, but luckily, Trump staffed his cabinet administration with extreme Russia hawks who effectively continued the very same policy and even intensified these pre-existing policies of cooperation and collaboration with Ukrainian authorities.

00:16:55.320 And within the context of the CIA, and within the context of the CIA's number one priority remaining, addressing the question of Russian meddling.

00:17:03.760 So under the Trump administration, the CIA, run by Russia hawk, Pompeo, Pompeo and Bolton, both Russia hawks, the CIA maintains its cooperative relationship, maintains the same programs within the context of considering Russia meddling.

00:17:23.660 The very meddling that Trump knew was a hoax, the very meddling that was effectively discredited in the Mueller report, was the number one CIA priority here, even under the Trump administration, which gives people a sense of what the deep state really means.

00:17:41.080 Well, and Darren, it also says that there were, and just before we go to break here, I'll remind everyone that it specifically says that these same CIA individuals also took steps to conceal these relationships and these operations from President Trump, the highest echelons of the NSC.

00:17:59.400 We know, of course, wow, I wonder who it could have been.

00:18:02.420 I wonder if his name starts with the letter V, his last name.

00:18:05.600 Oh, that's right.

00:18:06.020 Alexander Vindman, who served on President Trump's NSC, later became related to Eric Charamella, highly involved in the CIA whistleblower case that led to Trump's first impeachment over what?

00:18:18.620 Oh, right.

00:18:19.180 Ukraine.

00:18:19.800 Be right back.

00:18:20.940 Darren Beattie connecting all the dots today here in Events Daily.

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00:19:57.400 Darren Beattie is our guest right here on Human Events Daily.

00:20:02.700 Darren, so we're going through this article and there's these, these, it's just this bizarre relationship between CIA station chiefs and the heads of Ukrainian intelligence.

00:20:12.920 And this guy Budinov comes up through the unit.

00:20:16.300 He's sort of the star of the, of the road.

00:20:20.420 Well, he's the star of the element, right?

00:20:22.320 That's trained up this unit 2265. 0.86

00:20:24.440 But then he kind of goes rogue, goes cowboy, starts killing Russians, killing civilians, conducting assassinations. 0.82

00:20:31.460 Then the head of the unit is assassinated. 0.85

00:20:33.620 His car is blown up by the Russians back in 2017. 1.00

00:20:37.060 And who's there at the vigil?

00:20:38.540 Of course, Marie Yovanovitch, the U.S. ambassador, pouring out a whiskey for, for the head of the assassinations of this special unit.

00:20:47.040 It really shows how the U.S. and this proxy force were in, in, in, in, indelibly interlinked here.

00:20:54.460 And so my, my big question, I guess, is why now?

00:20:57.960 Why put all this information out now when they've denied it for so many years?

00:21:01.160 When so many of the players, like Yovanovitch, who were involved in President Trump's first impeachment over Ukraine, as well as Budinov, who's currently the head of Ukraine's military intelligence, as well as the guy who's out there saying that Navalny, by the way, wasn't killed, you know, by murder, that he died of a blood clot.

00:21:19.260 I'm trying to make some sense of what all is going on here.

00:21:22.700 Why would the New York Times put out something like this at this juncture?

00:21:28.140 You know, that's a great question to ask.

00:21:30.780 It's not the easiest question to answer.

00:21:33.380 There could be a multifactorial explanation.

00:21:37.900 I think just the timing of it is telling.

00:21:41.840 It seems to be at a critical moment for those who are kind of interested in prolonging this war.

00:21:47.840 There are several references to the existential threat of Republicans not going along with perpetual funding packages for the operation, even saying that this carefully crafted CIA-Ukraine relationship going all the way back to Euromaidan could be in jeopardy if the Republicans refuse to play ball.

00:22:09.240 And I think partly we have to think of this in the aftermath of J.D. Vance's very admirable and effective public efforts in calling into question what our actual objectives are in continuing to dump tens and tens and tens, really hundreds at this point, of billions of dollars into something with, you know, no clear goal other than to, you know, allow some of these CIA people to play these spy games.

00:22:38.240 And kind of some grandiose and exaggerated fashion with, you know, no particular reason to fill the coffers of our defense contractors.

00:22:47.560 And, of course, to enrich the corrupt oligarchs in Ukraine who are responsible, arguably more so than Russia, for the immiseration of the Ukrainian people. 0.61

00:22:58.800 So I think that sort of political element is certainly a part of it.

00:23:04.120 And there could also be concurrent objectives, for instance, telegraphing this information to Russia and, you know, kind of blaming certain things on Ukraine.

00:23:14.000 But I don't see how ultimately one could read this and not just be reinforced in the notion that the U.S. and Ukraine are, you know, at, in essence, the same thing when it comes to these types of operations.

00:23:30.000 Well, you know, it certainly, if anything, I think the biggest takeaway from all of this, number one, is that it backs up pretty much everything that Putin had said to Tucker Carlson a couple of weeks ago,

00:23:44.160 specifically talking about the CIA building bases in Ukraine along the border with the target, by the way, not being the defense of Ukraine, the target being this, call it what it is.

00:23:56.880 It was a shadow war that the CIA was waging against Russia, which now look, spy on spy stuff happens all the time.

00:24:04.140 We have a huge history of this with the Russians, by the way, back to the time when they were the Soviet Union.

00:24:09.180 But it doesn't usually spill over into this level of bloodshed.

00:24:13.460 But it could be perhaps that it was this unit or this unit's rogue motions that led to Russia eventually doing what they did and conducting this invasion two years ago.

00:24:24.940 But I would say that it certainly eviscerates the narrative that there was that this was unprovoked aggression on behalf of the Russian state.

00:24:33.040 Sounds like they were provoked quite extensively.

00:24:35.460 And that's, you know, that's such an interesting thing, because I think ultimately, you know, we're Americans, we're America first.

00:24:41.920 And we say whatever advances American interest, that's what we should do, regardless of whether or not it's like, quote unquote, fair or reciprocal.

00:24:50.140 But in this case, we really have to look at, you know, what are the stakes here?

00:24:53.740 And it seems like the stakes are we, you know, is a quid pro quo, you know, to use a kind of loaded phrase.

00:25:00.820 But the quid pro quo was us basically, you know, doing everything Ukraine wants, building up their intelligence apparatus to antagonize Russia.

00:25:08.340 And in exchange, we get some like fake flimsy information about these hacker groups that turn out to be a complete non-entity, even according to the Mueller report.

00:25:19.420 It's just it's such a bad deal.

00:25:22.500 And it's just so geopolitically sloppy when you think about what we're actually getting out of this versus, for instance, what the stakes would have been in the Cold War.

00:25:33.780 And also, you know, just to do an analysis on these things, it's important and it's unfortunate that so few decision makers have this capability of looking at things from the other side to really understand the situation.

00:25:46.820 Well, I really do think that in this situation, the difference from the Cold War to now is that in the Cold War, the United States was attempting.

00:26:03.100 And we know this from the, you know, the memos that were written at the time from the State Department, that the United States was attempting to isolate the spread of international communism.

00:26:13.100 Because, again, you had this this group of virulent communists that took over the state treasury of Russia and then were attempting to export communism throughout the entire world.

00:26:21.780 Now, that's not the case in Russia.

00:26:24.760 What is which country or I should say which group of people, which group of national leaders in the world is attempting to be expansionary?

00:26:34.560 It's the West. It's the Atlanticists. 0.67

00:26:37.140 Guess what, boys and girls?

00:26:38.200 It turns out we are the ones who are trying to advance what we call the international rules based order and take over the internal affairs and internal doctrine of every single country on the planet.

00:26:49.380 We are now the expansionist powers.

00:26:51.240 We were the ones that were conducting these color revolutions.

00:26:54.740 We were the ones that were conducting shadow wars against the Russian state and picking the fight for no reason other than ideology.

00:27:01.600 We are the ones that are emboldened by a radical ideology the way the Russians were when they were controlled by the communists.

00:27:07.840 It's kind of so, Darren, it's sort of like an inversion in terms of geopolitics here.

00:27:11.540 It's certainly an inversion and it underscores just how needlessly and foolishly aggressive we've been in this domain of, you know, we know that Ukraine is a den of corruption, but it's, you know, that goes part and parcel with Ukraine being a bastion of U.S. intelligence and all for what? 0.77

00:27:29.820 So we can antagonize Russia on their own borders. 0.80

00:27:34.820 I mean, again, you know, by analogy, if Russia or China or some other country were doing anything remotely the equivalent of this, everyone would be going apoplectic, not only Fox News, but across our news stations.

00:27:50.300 They'd be calling for total war and such.

00:27:52.980 And so the question is, what do we get out of this provocation?

00:27:57.160 And it's not clear that we get that much, if anything.

00:28:01.320 Darren, imagine Sean Hannity the night that we find out that Russia was installing bases along the Mexican border and training, let's say, Mexican cartel members to go across the border and attack Americans.

00:28:16.020 Right, exactly.

00:28:16.740 Or imagine, like you'd think of that, imagine if Russia were responsible for a policy that compelled us to not enforce our border security such that we're allowing unprecedented numbers of millions and millions of illegal aliens and criminals coming into our interior and murdering innocent American citizens.

00:28:36.660 Imagine if Russia were responsible for something like that, you know, it's like.

00:28:40.260 Maybe we should just maybe maybe we should just try to, you know, I don't know, we'll go down and we'll we'll we'll put some memes up.

00:28:48.180 We'll get Ricky Vaughn to make some memes that say Russia was behind it.

00:28:52.380 And then finally, we can get some MSN coverage.

00:28:55.980 Indeed.

00:28:56.680 No, that would be very interesting.

00:28:58.140 And another thing, I don't know if you've discussed on the show, but it is interesting to see Putin kind of pivot away from the American right.

00:29:09.260 And I think that kind of signals something interesting as well.

00:29:12.140 Well, I think, as you and I have said, and we've only got about a minute left that we have you, I think I really do think that it seems as though Russia may have given up by and large its aims to engage with the wider West.

00:29:26.580 And I think those lie at the bottom of the Baltic along with Nord Stream 2.

00:29:30.840 Indeed.

00:29:31.660 And by the way, of Nord Stream 2, that is no longer a subject of investigation by Danish authorities.

00:29:37.320 They basically just said there's nothing to see here.

00:29:40.420 No, case closed, there's nothing to see here.

00:29:43.640 Not a word out of them, not a word out of Germany, not a word out of anybody, which is a nice-

00:29:48.400 Well, you know what I hear?

00:29:50.520 I hear that the last thing that Nord Stream 2 posted on Facebook was that it had information that would lead to the arrest of Hillary Clinton.

00:30:00.060 I mean, I can't confirm that.

00:30:01.580 I did hear that on the internet.

00:30:03.800 Darren Beatty, where can people go to follow you and get all the scoops from Revolver?

00:30:07.760 We've got analysis on this and everything.

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00:30:15.140 So follow us, Revolver.news.

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00:30:20.620 All right, if you're going to play Russian roulette with the globalists, you're going to need a revolver.

00:30:27.280 Darren Beatty, you've got to go follow him, get all the scoops.

00:30:30.780 Rahim Kassam of the National Pulse joins us next to talk more about the 10-year anniversary of Maidan, the Ukraine coup, and what's going on now with the U.S. government.

00:30:40.580 This latest story out in New York Times.

00:30:46.040 Jack, where is Jack?

00:30:48.900 Where is Jack?

00:30:51.040 Where is he?

00:30:52.320 Jack, I want to see you.

00:30:55.960 Great job, Jack.

00:30:57.460 Thank you.

00:30:58.220 What a job you do.

00:30:59.280 You know, we have an incredible thing.

00:31:01.100 We're always talking about the fake news and the bad, but we have guys, and these are the guys who should be getting Pulisic.

00:31:06.840 All right, Jack Posobiec back live, Human Events Daily, continuing our conversation about this incredible, and I just think surprising, very surprising story that we read in the New York Times going all the way back to the days of the Maidan coup,

00:31:27.360 which took place in this week, this very week, 10 years ago, so late February 2014, at a time where Ukraine's duly elected government was thrown out of power.

00:31:41.000 Russia then moves in to secure its positions, particularly the Sevastopol naval base in Crimea, which led to the Crimean crisis, all of this kicking off the Donbass war a decade ago.

00:31:53.540 A man who was there on the ground and can tell us firsthand what he witnessed is Raheem Kassam.

00:32:00.080 Raheem, how are you?

00:32:03.340 I'm well.

00:32:04.040 Thank you for having me, Jack.

00:32:06.060 Well, I promised folks that we'd get you on, and the question that I have is, you know, you've been saying this for years at this point, talking about the Maidan coup, talking about everything that took place.

00:32:19.260 Did you ever expect that the New York Times, no less, would come out, tell us what happened, and did you know, by the way, that when you were there, apparently, according to the New York Times, again, that John Brennan, the head of the CIA, was landing in an unmarked plane, apparently at the same airport that you used?

00:32:35.020 Well, yes, in a sense, there was a lot of chatter on the ground at the time about, well, multiple different elements coming in.

00:32:45.820 There was CIA, of course, naturally, State Department, naturally, European Union, Brussels, the United Kingdom, Westminster, Foreign Office, lots of talk about that at the time.

00:32:57.660 And we were very interested in trying to get to the bottom of what was really going on.

00:33:03.340 So if you cast your mind back to 2014, an old friend of mine said to me, well, you know, should we go to Kiev?

00:33:12.700 I said, what on earth would we want to go there for?

00:33:14.820 He said, how often in your life do you get a revolution on your doorstep?

00:33:20.200 And here I am on Capitol Hill, by the way, where we had similar scenes.

00:33:24.660 Well, you know, Rahim, just flash forward a couple of years later, and, of course, I was your friend that day.

00:33:32.580 That's right.

00:33:33.600 And so off we went to Kiev, not really knowing what to expect, and honestly, not particularly assured in our perspectives on this either way.

00:33:43.100 That came as we walked around the Medan Square, as we explored the different tents, the different offerings, the different communications, speeches, leaflets, pamphlets, talking to people around the fireplaces, really getting to grips with what was going on.

00:34:00.320 And it became apparent to me very quickly that this was going to turn into a hot war as a result of really EU expansionism is how I perceived it back then.

00:34:10.980 I think now we can we can trace lines closer to or we can trace lines closer to Langley.

00:34:18.580 We can trace lines closer to Foggy Bottom here in Washington, D.C.

00:34:22.160 And also to NATO to answer the question as to whether or not I thought The New York Times would do this.

00:34:29.320 Well, yeah, call me naive, but I actually expected The New York Times to do it in, oh, I don't know, 2014 or 2015.

00:34:37.340 But we all soon learned that this was this was part of the op.

00:34:41.120 The media buying into this, they still do it.

00:34:43.940 Yes, somebody at The New York Times may once in a while be able to get, you know, a special investigation published on a Sunday.

00:34:52.260 But on a day to day basis, the American public, the British public, the European public, the Ukrainian public and to whatever extent they can.

00:35:00.140 The rest of the world is still told that this is a Putin war of aggression that could have been avoided by Putin just caving to NATO expansionism.

00:35:09.440 We now know, of course, and unfortunately, I have to tell everybody to read The New York Times, but we now know that there is so much more information out there to play with.

00:35:20.360 So, you know, here we go again.

00:35:23.860 Well, so Rahim, you're someone who is very adept on understanding how newsrooms work, particularly on the mainstream media side in a way that I think few on the right actually understand.

00:35:37.620 So that being the case, why is it then on this 10th anniversary at a time where $60 billion might be on the line, you've got this guy Zelensky who's blasting J.D. Vance and others in the United States for demanding that we put border funding and ice deportation funding alongside this Ukraine bill.

00:35:59.880 Why would they publish a story like this and sort of turn around and just verify everything that we've been saying for years?

00:36:07.780 It's a very good question, and it goes to institutionality, I think.

00:36:12.820 And I'd be keen to hear your thoughts on this as well, Jack.

00:36:16.000 For me, this is aimed at trying to win over those people in the middle who, while they might not like the idea of splashing a load of cash around again,

00:36:25.820 and who may be hearing from the constituents at home that this is not a good thing as far as they're concerned,

00:36:33.060 that the institutions actually have been involved in this for a very long time, don't you know?

00:36:38.120 And we've already spent a lot of money here, don't you know?

00:36:40.800 And we'd hate for that to have all been wasted, don't you know?

00:36:43.840 Also, the CIA isn't an enemy you want to make, don't you know?

00:36:47.660 And that, you know, can have a splash effect on everything that goes on.

00:36:55.080 It's pretty much aimed at middle-of-the-road lawmakers here in Washington, D.C.

00:37:00.880 to kind of twist their arms and say, yeah, there is a long-term geopolitical strategy that's being played out here,

00:37:08.180 and if you force us to abandon it now, you're effectively giving Vladimir Putin a win geopolitically.

00:37:15.040 Anyway, it's fair in a sense when you consider it from their perspective. 0.95

00:37:20.580 The problem is their perspective is retarded. 0.99

00:37:24.680 Their geopolitical compass is broken. 0.53

00:37:28.820 The strategies they're deploying have failed now for decades on end.

00:37:33.460 And more importantly than anything else, when we live in a world where we're constantly told that democracy is the most important thing,

00:37:40.320 and democracy dies in darkness,

00:37:42.080 the most important thing here is the public aren't buying it.

00:37:48.120 Support for this war is now at an all-time low since it started,

00:37:53.260 and support for the politicians who continue to try to prop up this war are also at an all-time low.

00:38:00.580 Now, if you want to pretend that somehow this means that Vladimir Putin is going to be marching his troops through Paris next week,

00:38:09.460 then you can pretend that until you're blue in the face.

00:38:12.320 What I think serious-minded, level-headed policymakers should be thinking of now

00:38:18.200 is actually how do we come to a new geopolitical settlement in the Western world?

00:38:23.920 By the way, I'd be remiss if I didn't notice that one of your favorites is given a key cameo in this story.

00:38:33.220 Yes, Marie Yovanovitch, Masha herself,

00:38:36.100 pouring out a shot glass of whiskey after the Russians assassinated the head of this elite CIA-trained unit there in 2017.

00:38:47.020 She appears right at the memorial, given her show of support to pour one out for the brave Ukrainian nationalists.

00:38:55.660 It's amazing how Yovanovitch and then Vindman and all of the names that all the way back in 2019 that we were putting together,

00:39:05.660 and I remember visiting you at the war room and you had your boxes of testimony stacked everywhere,

00:39:11.480 and you were one step away from getting out the shoestrings and coloring in the connections,

00:39:18.220 that all of a sudden those names that we focused on back then are all coming back.

00:39:24.500 Yeah, that's right.

00:39:25.620 And, you know, you've probably noticed, Jack, and I'll share with the audience as well,

00:39:29.900 that it's been an incredibly frustrating process to go through all of this,

00:39:36.340 and sometimes I just sort of shrug and say, what's the point, right?

00:39:40.500 What is the point of me going over this stuff over and over again,

00:39:44.420 when in reality these votes in Congress, these decisions that are being taken,

00:39:50.320 are so very rarely taken in the long-term interest of the nation.

00:39:53.860 They're so almost never taken in the interest of the voting public.

00:39:59.260 And so especially when you look at such a massive issue like this,

00:40:03.120 you know, a geopolitical issue, a geostrategic issue,

00:40:06.260 and there are so many stakeholders involved in this,

00:40:10.600 and frankly shareholders, right, involved in this,

00:40:13.720 how do you actually come to move the needle on it?

00:40:16.420 Well, you come to move the needle on it by, again,

00:40:19.600 coming back to a new geopolitical settlement.

00:40:22.560 And I think that's what Trump represented,

00:40:25.100 and that's why they went after Trump on, specifically on the Ukraine issue.

00:40:30.160 They had vested so much in an already clearly failing policy

00:40:35.240 that they couldn't have a second term of him coming along

00:40:39.660 and going through all of that information and going through all of that data

00:40:42.660 and going through all those checkbooks and saying,

00:40:44.460 well, hold on a minute, what exactly are we doing here?

00:40:46.900 We're provoking a war. 0.80

00:40:48.140 We're not stopping a war.

00:40:50.680 We couldn't possibly be wrong.

00:40:52.460 We were doing this with the best of intentions.

00:40:55.460 Raheem Kassam, National Pulse, be right with us after the break here at Human Events Daily.

00:41:00.160 All right, Jack Posobiec back live, Human Events Daily.

00:41:11.820 We're speaking with Raheem Kassam.

00:41:14.600 You know, Raheem, we're discussing about how much we've been over this,

00:41:18.640 been over these stories over the last decade,

00:41:21.480 going through the same names again and again

00:41:24.620 that just seem to keep coming up.

00:41:26.960 So many people, and I keep saying the name John Brennan, right?

00:41:30.160 They wanted us, this was the guy who was behind Russiagate.

00:41:33.700 He was behind Russiagate because the real scandal was Ukrainegate.

00:41:38.420 And people even forget, many people forget,

00:41:41.280 that Paul Manafort was actually someone

00:41:44.160 who was directly affected by a Ukrainian disinformation operation.

00:41:50.580 He was forced to step down as Trump's campaign manager over completely false allegations.

00:41:57.840 And this false ledger is called the Black Ledger that was found in Ukraine

00:42:02.900 by many of these same shadowy organizations.

00:42:05.720 That was direct election interference that had a verifiable and tangible result

00:42:11.760 as opposed to the sort of nebulous Russian interference that we're told we're supposed to care about.

00:42:15.940 Not so very, very much in our democracy that Morning Unica is very, very unsettled that I am destroying.

00:42:22.480 But Raheem, let's bring it back to 2024 because we were in a situation

00:42:27.460 where all of this has been put on the same table as apparently as the lives of our citizens,

00:42:34.520 like young Lakin Riley, the student down in Georgia,

00:42:37.480 who was mercilessly beaten and murdered while out for a jog by an illegal migrant.

00:42:44.520 How can any regime, how could any government equate some sort of geopolitical adventure

00:42:50.980 to something as basic as law and order and the safety and security of your citizens?

00:42:58.880 It's a big question.

00:43:01.820 It is.

00:43:02.620 I'll take it from a 2024 kind of election interference perspective first.

00:43:08.600 I look at NBC this weekend and they have a headline,

00:43:13.340 you know, Russia is already interfering in the 2024 election.

00:43:17.580 And it's a 2,000 word article.

00:43:19.860 And I was so stunned by how vacuous it was that I sent it to my entire team and I said,

00:43:26.620 am I missing something here?

00:43:28.060 Have they pointed out any actual election interference that's occurring here?

00:43:32.620 And you read that story and we have a pricey of it up at the National Pulse.

00:43:36.760 You can go and read the whole thing if you want.

00:43:38.380 And there isn't anything.

00:43:41.020 All there is is the Biden national security team going, oh, well, yeah, no, of course,

00:43:46.440 it is in Russia's interest to interfere in the election.

00:43:49.620 Well, you know, Vladimir Putin comes out a couple of weeks ago and he says, look, Joe Biden is better for Russia, quote, right?

00:43:57.200 That is a quote, better for Russia than Donald Trump would be.

00:44:00.920 And that should be abundantly obvious, of course, to anybody who follows not just politics on a day-to-day basis,

00:44:07.500 but also follows geopolitically where the world stands now versus where it stood under Donald Trump.

00:44:15.080 But you also see the PSYOPs beginning not just from that perspective, but from the TikTok perspective, right?

00:44:23.920 You see them starting from the NATO perspective as well.

00:44:27.680 I couldn't believe it, by the way.

00:44:29.640 I was, God, I cannot believe the gall of these people sometimes.

00:44:34.080 I was reading an op-ed, I think it was in The Hill, and it was by the Atlantic Council, you know, this NATO incubator, this adjacent creative set, the think tank set that come out of the NATO apparatus.

00:44:50.600 And in the article, they said, well, you know, Donald Trump can talk all he wants about getting more money into NATO, but more money doesn't actually help NATO.

00:45:00.120 Well, OK, but I mean, fine, if you don't want it, then you don't get it.

00:45:04.080 He was then also saying, you know, the Europeans can't actually put up enough of a field army themselves anyway, can't deploy anything, you know, don't have any military readiness.

00:45:16.980 And then I thought to myself, yeah, that's exactly also what Donald Trump and MAGA has been saying for all this time.

00:45:24.220 And then finally, the argument in the same op-ed was made that actually Russia doesn't pose an existential threat to Europe.

00:45:31.780 Yeah, it's also what we've been saying.

00:45:34.540 So you see that their perspective, and a lot of these people I used to respect, by the way, especially in my late teens and early 20s, as I was reading around all these topics,

00:45:43.840 their perspective has now changed from being, you know, what advances the American national interest, even from what advances the American foreign policy establishment interest, to simply whatever position Donald Trump and MAGA take, we are going to take the diametrically opposite position for the sake of it.

00:46:03.580 And that alone is undergirds their entire political philosophy.

00:46:08.080 That is the thesis now.

00:46:09.820 Whatever they say, we're against.

00:46:12.100 And I think between now and the election, that will be the prevailing, that will be the prevailing theme.

00:46:17.540 And so essentially, you know, if you come out and say, I'm against illegal immigrants, I'm against, or, you know, excuse me, I'm for illegal, or, you know, for deportations, I'm against illegal immigrants, I want more border security.

00:46:32.580 Then the Democrats are going to say, no, we don't want any of those things, we don't want safety, we don't want security, they'll try to have some, you know, some imaginary discussion about IVF and say that all the Republicans are trying to take this way, even when I don't think any Republican on record, certainly not any of the ones that are running, or even the ones in Alabama are saying things like this.

00:46:55.520 In the wake of this, they're desperate to change the conversation, is my point.

00:47:01.000 And they thought this would be a layup for them, when unfortunately, what's really going on in this country, and it's horrific that I have to say this, but there's a new Lake and Riley that takes place every single day in this country.

00:47:16.220 Okay, this is one of the ones that we've heard about, the story has taken off, because of the fact that this guy slipped through the net in New York City.

00:47:25.860 Now, it was one, I was going to pin it on Alvin Bragg, but apparently it was one county over, so it's Alvin Bragg's colleague, the Queens DA, who was actually the one that let him out.

00:47:35.400 Of course, Letitia James could have played a role if she, her office was working closer with ICE, and she wasn't so focused on trying to get Trump, then she could have gotten the murderers and rapists off the streets of her city, and in fact, out of the country by simply handing them over to ICE.

00:47:52.680 Last minute, Raheem Kassam.

00:47:55.760 Yeah, I'll come back to the point, you know, it's kind of a version of the wonderful Kang and Kodo scene from the Simpsons Treehouse of Horror, right?

00:48:04.580 If Donald Trump gets up there and says, abortions for nobody, they go, boo, if he goes, okay, well, abortions for everybody, boo, well, okay, abortions for some, miniature American flags for all, but still, even on the compromise point that Donald Trump has been making in recent months, the chorus from the globalist left, from the progressive left, from the corporate class, has still been, boo.

00:48:29.860 Boo. So, again, my point being, whatever this guy comes out and says, they will oppose, and you can set your watch by it.

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Human Events Daily with Jack Posobiec - February 27, 2024

EPISODE 680： REGIME WAR UKRAINE, MIGRANT WAR AT HOME

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