Human Events Daily with Jack Posobiec - February 29, 2024


EPISODE 682： SUPREME COURT DERAILS TRUMP J6 TRIAL


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The Supreme Court rules that Donald Trump is not entitled to immunity from civil fraud and conspiracy charges brought against him by former employees of his now-defunct business empire, The Trump Foundation. Former President Trump's case now goes to the Supreme Court for review.

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00:00:49.680 Deliver us from evil.
00:00:51.220 The French President Macron has come under fire for suggesting the West might deploy troops to Ukraine.
00:00:56.740 They should eventually understand that we also have weapons, and they know it.
00:01:02.420 I just said it now myself.
00:01:04.420 Weapons that can hit targets on their territory.
00:01:08.020 Everything that the West is coming up with now, what they threaten the world with,
00:01:13.240 it can result in a conflict with the use of nuclear weapons.
00:01:17.340 My administration is going to choose progress over politics, and communities across the country are safer as a result of that.
00:01:24.800 There is no greater responsibility than to ensure the safety of families, children, communities, and our nation.
00:01:29.900 The New York appellate court has denied an attempt by Donald Trump to delay payments of his $454 million civil fraud judgment.
00:01:37.780 That means, for now, the former president is required to pay that bond in the coming weeks.
00:01:42.620 A third state has now barred Trump from its presidential ballot.
00:01:46.020 A state court judge in Illinois said Trump engaged in insurrection.
00:01:50.340 She believes that disqualifies him from seeking the presidency again.
00:01:53.740 Former President Trump's presidential immunity claim is going to the Supreme Court.
00:01:59.080 Well, I'm very pessimistic.
00:02:00.640 I do not have the view that they took this case because they're going to hand out a win to Donald Trump in the Colorado case,
00:02:07.320 but here they're going to essentially give him a defeat by saying there is no presidential immunity in this case.
00:02:14.040 Yes, of course, I think ultimately they will not grant immunity in this case,
00:02:18.240 but they have given him the win because the D.C. case, let's just face it, is on life support now.
00:02:24.840 People in the media, people at home, and people sitting in the White House have to stop pretending that the Supreme Court is some kind of benign trying to do its best institution.
00:02:37.600 The cravenness of the court is evident in what they are doing with the pacing here, right?
00:02:42.100 Like putting this off for seven weeks, sitting on it for two weeks for no reason,
00:02:46.200 obviously pushing all of the cases that they can push,
00:02:49.520 pushing them to the point where Trump will be standing for election before any of us have heard the verdicts in any of those cases.
00:02:55.120 Well, ladies and gentlemen, welcome aboard today's edition of Human Events Daily, live from Washington, D.C.
00:03:01.740 Today is February 29th, 2024, Anno Domini.
00:03:05.520 You saw the mainstream media there, absolute freakout being held from yesterday when it came down,
00:03:13.680 the Supreme Court had what's called granted cert, the issue of this order granting cert,
00:03:18.460 saying that they would take up the president's presidential immunity case.
00:03:21.680 Now, of course, there was no question that the presidential immunity case in the Jan 6 trial would be brought up before the Supreme Court.
00:03:29.440 This is a direct constitutional issue.
00:03:31.520 It's a separation of powers issue.
00:03:33.480 It speaks directly to the powers and the actions of the executive of the United States.
00:03:40.960 And it covers not just, of course, not just President Trump, but it is a precedent that will be set for every executive going forward.
00:03:49.280 And so it was unquestionable.
00:03:51.300 There was no case.
00:03:53.160 There was no scenario where this court would not take it up because this court is a serious court,
00:03:58.860 one that's actually deeply concerned with the Constitution and how rulings related to the Constitution
00:04:05.780 and really reflected through the lens of the Constitution affect the day-to-day governance and history of our country,
00:04:12.080 the future history of our country, which is yet to be written.
00:04:14.460 And so the reason you're seeing this absolute freak out from the media is they are upset
00:04:22.960 that people will be allowed to vote for Donald Trump in November without any trial knocking him off the ballot
00:04:31.020 or making him ineligible in some way.
00:04:33.200 This is what they wanted.
00:04:34.080 So the same people that we just played for you in that clip that were all losing their minds over me and my CPAC speech last week are now this.
00:04:49.200 Remember, I was the end of democracy.
00:04:51.560 I was the death of democracy.
00:04:53.300 I was going to destroy democracy in America.
00:04:55.940 They didn't actually listen to the rest of my speech, just literally like the first opening words.
00:04:59.140 And now they're spending this week losing their minds that the American people are going to be able to vote for a candidate of their choice in an election.
00:05:15.520 So it's anti-democracy to be able to vote for a candidate, but it's pro-democracy to use lawfare to knock him off of a ballot.
00:05:27.680 Remember, Joy Reid was one of the chief, one of the absolute chief.
00:05:33.260 And there she is.
00:05:34.740 You can see her.
00:05:35.440 She's so focused on Donald Trump.
00:05:38.460 She's taken to adopting his hairstyle for whatever reason.
00:05:43.960 You'd really have to ask Joy.
00:05:46.320 I certainly hope, by the way, that Joy is changing the batteries in her smoke detector
00:05:51.220 because I want to make sure that she is practicing good fire prevention safety. 0.58
00:05:56.740 Now, folks, we need to be serious here.
00:06:01.560 They're doing everything they can to stop Trump from simply appearing on the ballot and allowing people to vote for him.
00:06:09.620 That's why everyone in Washington, D.C. is pressing the panic button because you know where the D.C. money is going?
00:06:15.740 They know Trump's about to win.
00:06:17.200 Stay tuned.
00:06:17.800 Mike Benz joins us for the full hour after this.
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00:07:50.400 Folks, I'll tell you what's going on.
00:07:52.180 You talked to any of the lobbying shops down here in D.C. today,
00:07:55.260 even, and I, I want to tell our next guest this.
00:07:59.940 I'll have to tell them more offline about this, but let's just say that I've got a little birdie from one of the biggest tech firm lobbyists in all of Washington, D.C.
00:08:13.060 That tells me these guys right now, the entire town, the entire Beltway, including the tech firms, are terrified, terrified that Donald J. Trump is about to return to office.
00:08:27.720 And so everything that you see splayed out before us, whether it's today, whether it's in the New York Times, this incredible CIA bombshell that comes out there,
00:08:37.740 we must look at it through the lens of the return of Trump.
00:08:41.500 Obviously, Mitch McConnell last night announcing he will be stepping down at the end of the, at the end of the year.
00:08:47.220 To help us make sense of all of these things, Mike Benz from the Foundation Freedom Online joins us.
00:08:53.000 Mike, I got to tell, I'll have to tell you more offline about that.
00:08:55.660 But yes, yes, the tech lobbyists in D.C. right now are all of a sudden starting to make little, put out little feelers,
00:09:04.640 say maybe we should talk to some of these conservatives because next year they're going to be in a little bit of a position of power.
00:09:11.100 I would love to hear more about that because, you know, there was a very funny moment from the TGIF,
00:09:18.040 the Thank God It's Friday, weekly Sunday Google meeting that came out on November 9th, 2016,
00:09:24.960 the day after the November 8th election where Trump won.
00:09:28.440 And this was a big cry fest.
00:09:30.280 If you remember, Breitbart broke this story and you had the entire C-suite.
00:09:35.480 The great Alan Bakari.
00:09:36.720 Yes, that's right.
00:09:37.740 You had the entire C-suite up on the stage answering questions and you had Ruth Porat, the CFO,
00:09:43.960 making $45 million a year crying on stage and telling everyone to hug the person next to them because Hillary Clinton lost.
00:09:51.340 But there was there was really kind of an amazing moment from from that where one of the audience questions from a Google employee is,
00:09:57.520 you know, well, how are we going to basically stop the Republicans now?
00:10:01.140 Are you what are we what is Google going to do?
00:10:03.780 And, you know, the response, I think it was from from from from Sergey Brin on stage.
00:10:09.880 Actually, it may have been Larry Page where he said, actually, we're going to double down and actually increase our lobbying efforts in Washington.
00:10:18.300 We are going to not we're going to not sort of distance ourselves and be strangers.
00:10:23.160 We're actually going to increase our funding and be closer to Washington to make sure that our our interests are represented.
00:10:29.320 That's exactly what happened.
00:10:30.700 Google would go on to pour a tremendous amount of money into everything from CPAC into individual legislator coffers.
00:10:36.880 And it even came out about a year after that, that there was a deliberate strategy within Google to basically pry apart the Republican Party.
00:10:45.640 And by selectively funding those aspects of the Republicans by making themselves look like they are sort of fair and independent minded,
00:10:53.140 but essentially picking winners and losers of the factions within Republicanism to put it back in the sort of what is now the Nikki Haley box.
00:11:00.120 Well, and I guess that's my my first question for you before we get into the CIA piece, is that, you know, so Mitch McConnell comes out and says that he's done,
00:11:09.980 you know, produces this huge weepy send off yesterday and you've got his people, this sort of wing of the party talking about, oh, it was an incredible legacy.
00:11:19.600 The judges, which, of course, weren't were not nominated by him.
00:11:22.680 They were not anointed by President Trump.
00:11:25.500 So I guess my question is, is Nikki Haley the start of something new or the end of something old?
00:11:33.280 She's sort of I see her as sort of the middle continuation of of a legacy lineage that has been going on for several generations in this in this country.
00:11:43.260 I mean, I look at this from the reference point of what the blob does abroad, because they brought this whole Department of Dirty Tricks playbook on domestic soil. 0.91
00:11:53.120 And so, you know what, the State Department and the CIA and the Pentagon sort of civil affairs folks will do is they will create political parties abroad or they will build up political opposition.
00:12:05.500 If an insurgent political party, the opposition party to a U.S.-backed dictator or presidency is surging, they will selectively bribe or effectively take out and create factionalism within that opposition party until that party has an opposition leader who is down with the program, so to speak.
00:12:31.760 That way, the insurgent forces can be contained.
00:12:35.580 And that often requires, you know, what a counterinsurgency strategy that.
00:12:40.620 But by the way, this is this has been and I'm just going to throw it out there since this this beef has been public for a while now.
00:12:48.620 This this has been Robbie Soov and the guys over at Reason for the longest time, not all of them.
00:12:54.680 But this has been your sort of corporatist wing directly tied in with the tech companies.
00:13:00.500 Oh, we're libertarians.
00:13:02.200 Oh, we're just against regulation for all businesses.
00:13:05.140 And then they turn around and suddenly they're shilling for the biggest corporations and most powerful corporations in America, the tech industry.
00:13:13.600 Yeah, I was one of the guys they used to show to, you know, I mean, that's what that's what the job was.
00:13:19.420 The State Department of the Economic Bureau is, you know, that that was that was the I was at the desk that, you know, Google would call when they needed favors from from the federal government.
00:13:29.540 And, you know, at the same time, the people who voted for that federal government were being sandblasted off the Internet by Google.
00:13:35.580 You know, I was looking at that from the perspective of how can you call these U.S. national champions?
00:13:39.920 These people are literally suppressing the people who voted for the very government who did this.
00:13:45.020 I mean, at least you could argue in the Rockefeller era when the State Department, you know, fought the everything from the banana wars to the Middle East wars on behalf of, you know, Exxon Mobil and Chevron that that they were they were doing it, you know, for cheap gas prices.
00:14:00.900 But imagine if, you know, if you voted for the wrong political candidate or you said something heterodox on Twitter, you couldn't pump gas in your car.
00:14:08.780 I mean, would it make sense for the State Department, especially if that was the the presidency that that was running that State Department?
00:14:15.420 The State Department was still waging foreign wars on behalf of, you know, Shell and Chevron and Exxon.
00:14:21.360 If if you were pumped, you know, half the country couldn't pump their gas from those countries, it made no sense.
00:14:26.220 I mean, it completely violated the social contract that underpins our Department of Dirty Tricks, that undermines our big government, big tech nexus.
00:14:36.420 And so, you know, it's no surprise that this is that this is happening.
00:14:40.960 But, you know, Republicans face a very strong challenge here in terms of what their value proposition is.
00:14:46.940 You know, I have a purest philosophy when it when it comes to my my principles.
00:14:52.760 But in the grand game of politics, the issue is, is, you know, the U.S. empire draws its strength from these very multinational corporations.
00:15:01.240 And unless, you know, the Trump administration is effectively willing to play ball to some extent with the Chamber of Commerce, it's very hard to see how voting alone is going to allow them to engage in the kind of power politics
00:15:16.220 that will be necessary to fend off the the various forces that will surround them at 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue, unless they are doing favors for these multinational corporations in the same way that the Biden administration.
00:15:31.960 So here's my question. So here's my question. Where did those same people then find purchase?
00:15:37.640 If you have Mitch McConnell leaving office, so that faction's, you know, going away in a sense, or at least, you know, on the surface level, Nikki Haley doesn't seem like she's actually getting traction anywhere.
00:15:49.240 We're told that the MAGA wing is ascendant. So where do those people go?
00:15:53.500 Or, as you say, is this water just trying to find its path right now?
00:15:57.020 I think I think it is the latter. You know, water trying to find its path is a very good description, I think.
00:16:03.160 But, you know, right now it's hard to clear the fog of war until we see what happens with this Ukraine bill.
00:16:08.920 This is really the first serious test in our nation's history of of a, you know, a majority coalition within the House of Representatives that that might tank a mission critical pump of money into the blob to win a highly sensitive, highly fragile, you know, trillion dollars on the line dark arts operation with respect to the Eurasian energy play.
00:16:38.760 The fact is, is there really is sort of a five alarm fire from the blob, because if they don't get, you know, hundreds of billions of dollars over the next year, two years in order to, you know, arm Ukraine and arm all the different clandestine service operations spanning all across NATO, then there's, you know, there's basically no negotiating leverage at the table with Russia.
00:17:08.360 And you have to remember this. This money is is not just going to fight this war directly in the immediate term.
00:17:14.760 I think that I think the play is to essentially stockpile funds to so that when there is a signed standstill with Russia so that Russia stops, you know, taking all the territory that they are going to do what they did with the Minsk Accords.
00:17:30.660 And they're there. You know, the State Department of the U.K. Foreign Office will backstab Russia, will get them to stop basically taking territory. 0.57
00:17:38.160 And then the CIA will take on a much bigger and much more long tooth, you know, high, you know, high fang intensity snake bite attack over the course of years to to run insurgent operations that violate that ceasefire.
00:17:55.240 But in a deniable way, I think that's the play. So the reasons they're so focused on the CIA's role right now.
00:18:00.900 And we've got a quick break coming up, but that's exactly where I want to take this after afterwards, because we had this huge piece that comes out on Sunday talking about the CIA shadow war that was being waged against Russia using Ukrainian assets and Ukrainian units for a full decade.
00:18:20.440 In fact, eight years before the invasion of Ukraine, which we were told all this time was unprovoked.
00:18:27.760 Our guest is Mike Benz. You know, I'd say I'll be right back.
00:18:32.160 You know, they talk about influencers. These are influencers and they're friends of mine.
00:18:38.820 Jack Posobiec. Where's Jack?
00:18:42.320 He's done a great job.
00:18:43.760 All right, here we are. Jack Posobiec back live human events daily.
00:18:50.600 Our guest, Mike Benz of the Foundation for Freedom Online.
00:18:54.180 So, Mike, the last segment we were we'd just gotten up to this this question.
00:18:58.280 It's this indelible tie between, you know, the neocon neolib faction of the U.S. government.
00:19:06.000 Nikki Haley, of course, is an avatar of this.
00:19:09.540 But then the CIA piece comes out with incredible information, just information that you and I and others have said for over a decade now.
00:19:20.060 Oliver Stone originally in his great documentary on Ukraine about the Maidan coup and really detailed information about this.
00:19:27.480 And we'll just call it what it is, a high level insurgent group, this unit that was founded and funded by the CIA to conduct insurgent operations across the border in Russia,
00:19:39.760 which then they, you know, as they claim, they just happened to kind of go rogue and started conducting assassinations and terror attacks.
00:19:48.400 And we're also told, by the way, that it was the same unit out of which derives this this individual, Kirillov Budinov,
00:19:56.380 who is now the head of all of Ukraine's military intelligence, someone that Zelensky at one point was talking about putting as the head of the entire military.
00:20:04.880 Wrap my mind around why The New York Times would suddenly come out and co-sign everything that we've been saying.
00:20:13.560 And by the way, everything that Putin just said to Tucker.
00:20:16.280 Yeah, well, this is I mean, this is actually such a shocking moment in American journalist history that, you know,
00:20:24.280 I know this this piece came out four days ago, but it really deserves like a true dissertation on its implications.
00:20:31.800 These are highly, highly, highly, highly classified operations, you know, 12.
00:20:37.860 And by the way, those 12, you know, secret CIA military bases were just the ones on the buffer zone border.
00:20:46.800 You know, that's that's not just, you know, 12.
00:20:49.220 That's not all we have in Ukraine.
00:20:50.940 It's my contention that when the dust settles on this, Ukraine, the Ukraine skirmish and the run up to and in the aftermath of the 2014 Maidan coup is going to ultimately be the largest operation in CIA history.
00:21:06.160 You know, it was revealed that that the most expensive CIA operation to date in the CIA's history was the Syrian operation under the Obama administration.
00:21:18.780 And that that is I think that's going to be blown away in the end by by the Ukraine story for.
00:21:24.760 By the way, that Syria operation, Operation Timber Sycamore, you know, it had that in the same way that this created a nationalist group of the Azov battalion, a sort of elite Azov unit that was conducting assassinations.
00:21:38.580 There was another group that, you know, accidentally grew out of the Syria operation.
00:21:43.700 I'm trying to remember.
00:21:45.040 They had they had kind of a catchy name.
00:21:46.740 It was an acronym.
00:21:47.680 I don't know if you can recall what it was.
00:21:49.540 They were in the news for a minute there, but just just but they're not around anymore because somebody somebody just made them disappear for some reason.
00:21:57.420 You know, whatever, whatever happened to them.
00:21:59.740 I I think I know what you're talking about.
00:22:02.220 But, gee, you know, it's ISIS, folks, by the way, it's ISIS.
00:22:07.060 Right.
00:22:07.680 And for the for the for the for the for the media matters guys watching.
00:22:11.740 Right.
00:22:12.280 And, you know, the declaration for our national security state is MAGA is the new ISIS now. 0.82
00:22:16.920 So they've just turned the same techniques and and technology used to contain ISIS on on social media and in terms of the, you know, I mean, against just regular domestic folks.
00:22:29.780 This is basically that I've said, though, Mike, what are you suggesting then that it sounds like this New York Times article is a classic example of a limited hangout,
00:22:40.380 a limited hangout when an operation becomes so compromised or public knowledge or public interest becomes so obvious around something that what the agency does is just like an onion.
00:22:53.200 They peel back one layer, but they don't actually show you what's at the core.
00:22:59.940 That's that's completely true.
00:23:02.040 There are also so many other layers around it.
00:23:05.420 I mean, so the limited hangout aspect of it is that the New York Times starts the story the day after the 2014 coup as if the century because, you know, the the chronology they tell is that.
00:23:16.920 It's amazing.
00:23:18.120 I'm sorry.
00:23:19.100 They they pick up the phone and John Brennan lands in the unmarked plane as the coup is taking place.
00:23:25.480 Right.
00:23:25.880 But it's like, oh, he just happened to have the phone number of John Brennan in his cell phone.
00:23:30.240 Come on.
00:23:31.000 Yeah.
00:23:31.700 Yeah.
00:23:31.860 The CIA chief is like flying.
00:23:33.780 You know, we're the State Department and the National Endowment for Democracy, the world's premier CIA cutout, gives five billion dollars to the right sector, you know, civil mob under under civil society, you know, labeled funding in the run up to the coup.
00:23:50.200 And, you know, the CIA, the CIA's job is to take assets that are capacity built by the State Department and instrumentalize them.
00:23:58.740 And, you know, while Victoria Nuland is handing out cookies and water bottles to the group that she's given five billion dollars to, you know, we're supposed to believe that even though the CIA's job is to shepherd that money for the purpose of of its instrumentalization.
00:24:15.200 And in this case, that was the rent-to-riot overthrow of the Ukrainian government when Viktor Yanukovych rejected the IMF trade deal in favor of a Russian one.
00:24:23.820 You know, it's they start they start the story the day after the coup.
00:24:27.900 It's very much how they started the 2022 story, you know, in 2022 without reference to to the 2014 events.
00:24:35.740 But in this case, you know, the guts of the New York story say, well, the head of Ukrainian intelligence the day after the coup had a secret meeting with with the head of the station houses of the CIA and the MI6 in the area.
00:24:49.040 And, you know, Mr. CIA and Mr. MI6 sit the Ukrainian intel chief sit down and say, hey, you know, nice government you're trying to set up there.
00:24:57.340 We're actually going to set it up for you.
00:24:58.900 And we're going to basically, you know, run your intelligence operation.
00:25:02.320 We're going to set it up for you.
00:25:03.560 We're going to structure it.
00:25:04.680 We're going to be your big daddy.
00:25:06.000 And you're going to learn from us, you know, how how intelligence work is done.
00:25:10.140 Basically, you know, we are going to usurp the sovereign aspect of this new post coup government.
00:25:17.360 And we're going to run the show.
00:25:20.120 And, you know, it sort of starts the story there.
00:25:22.780 And that sort of poses this as the evolution of these 12 military bases.
00:25:27.420 But remember, this was set up because eastern Ukraine broke away from, you know, these these the Luhansk and Donbat and Donetsk regions in Ukraine, as well as Crimea broke away from the the 2014 Kiev coup government and said, hey, we don't respect this this coup.
00:25:45.960 We're not subject to you.
00:25:46.960 We are breaking away from you.
00:25:48.500 And Crimea formally joined Russia through an annexation vote.
00:25:51.600 And so the CIA was helping Ukraine, I shouldn't even say helping Ukraine, was forcing the Kiev regime to militarily reconquer the eastern portion of Ukraine, which happens to be where all of the shale reserves are in the region.
00:26:06.760 That Chevron and Halliburton and Exxon and Shell all had 10 billion dollar contracts with NAFTA gas for the mining rights to.
00:26:16.920 You know, this is this gets to this big hydrocarbon story and the whole plan to build up Ukraine's endogenous natural gas market in order to capture that, make a trillion dollars worth of profit.
00:26:27.860 And these 30 term 30 year long term gas deals and kick Gazprom off if they don't control the the soil underneath that, then they don't get any of those trillion dollars.
00:26:38.180 And so they needed the Ukrainian military to go back and retake the area, which is what the CIA was doing between 2014 and 2022.
00:26:45.700 You know, this was this is what this was set up to is a military operation to try to win back these these basically secession territories after the the because we were not anticipating this this counter coup to the 2014 coup.
00:27:02.840 So, you know, there's much deeper layers to this as well.
00:27:06.100 So, first of all, The New York Times didn't this is by the way, I'll just I'll throw in on that that.
00:27:12.120 And we do have to keep saying this, this color revolution was not done in a vacuum.
00:27:17.400 This was right after the Arab Spring.
00:27:19.700 This is right chronologically, as you correctly mentioned, right after Operation Timber Sycamore.
00:27:24.680 So these same individuals, John Brennan, Hillary Clinton, originally in the Arab Spring, so many others, they've done it in they've done it in Libya.
00:27:32.100 They had done it in Syria.
00:27:33.200 And now the gang and Vicky Newland were moving up to Ukraine.
00:27:36.720 And so they thought that they would have the same sort of free hand that they had had in these other areas and this success.
00:27:44.060 But it turned out that, well, in the same way that Russia got involved in Syria, that Russia also got involved in Ukraine because Ukraine was it wasn't just in their backyard.
00:27:53.740 The way Syria is, this is literally next door. 0.97
00:27:56.360 That's exactly right.
00:27:57.420 We were riding high and riding dirty.
00:27:59.960 I mean, that's what this was.
00:28:00.900 We thought we were unstoppable and we could just coup anyone we wanted.
00:28:04.360 There'd never be any repercussions and no one would ever stand up for themselves and Russia would never actually backstop it. 0.76
00:28:11.020 And this was this was a very serious miscalculation that anticipated that our Department of Dirty Tricks could operate this way in perpetuity.
00:28:20.020 It can't.
00:28:21.240 This and, you know, this this this moment took the foreign policy establishment completely by surprise.
00:28:26.940 And when it turned out that their own population didn't support these dirty tricks either in the form of the rise of a populist presidential candidate like Donald Trump, who is running on putting America first in domestic priorities over foreign policy.
00:28:43.600 Then all hell broke loose.
00:28:45.600 They they basically started to treat domestic politics with the same counterinsurgency toolkit that they would suppress ISIS or that or the Taliban with.
00:28:54.660 But, you know, this is again, this New York Times story is not a New York Times story.
00:28:58.440 OK, the New York Times cannot sneak onto a secret CIA military base.
00:29:03.300 OK, they have to be invited in.
00:29:06.560 They have to be cleared.
00:29:08.060 They have to go through multiple layers of security checks.
00:29:10.880 They have to be I mean, what it takes to enter a above top secret, you know, secure secured CIA military base in Ukraine as a staff writer for The New York Times is an unbelievable process.
00:29:24.500 They don't have their own private CIA to sneak into that.
00:29:27.540 The CIA pitched them on the story.
00:29:29.820 This is very important because there's there's a paragraph that I'm going to read here, which basically, you know, breaks open what's really happening here.
00:29:38.400 This is about midway through the article.
00:29:39.800 Now, these intelligence networks are more important than ever as Russia is on the offense and Ukraine is more dependent on sabotage and long range missile strikes that require spies far behind enemy lines.
00:29:53.060 And they are increasingly at risk.
00:29:55.260 These CIA bases.
00:29:56.660 If Republicans in Congress and the military funding to Kiev, the CIA may have to scale back.
00:30:02.320 So understand what this what this paragraph is saying.
00:30:05.260 They're saying the CIA came to us and gave us invited us on because they said they conducted more than 200 interviews, many of which were done at this in the physical building of one of these 12 CIA bases.
00:30:18.520 They're saying they're more important than ever.
00:30:20.560 And if Republicans right now, as Mike, Mike Johnson is is literally having White House Oval Office negotiations with Joe Biden on this bill, they're saying basic.
00:30:32.200 They're making the valid claim argument.
00:30:33.620 They're saying if Mike Johnson vetoes this bill, then it's going to get CIA people.
00:30:38.720 They're making it.
00:30:39.000 They're making it.
00:30:39.720 They're forcing it.
00:30:40.900 And Benz, a quick, quick break here.
00:30:43.120 I'll also throw that they're also saying that if you don't go for this bill, then you're making an enemy of the Central Intelligence Agency.
00:30:51.360 Right back.
00:30:51.800 Mike Benz with Warren.
00:30:55.240 Where is Jack?
00:30:57.600 Where is Jack?
00:30:59.920 Where is he?
00:31:01.240 Jack, I want to see you.
00:31:04.880 Great job, Jack.
00:31:06.380 Thank you.
00:31:07.120 What a job you do.
00:31:08.180 You know, we have an incredible thing.
00:31:09.960 We're always talking about the fake news and the bad.
00:31:12.260 But we have guys and these are the guys should be getting policies.
00:31:18.060 All right, Jack Posobiec here.
00:31:19.620 Mike Benz, when we left, you were just kind of walking through how essentially the CIA is.
00:31:27.320 And I'm just saying it.
00:31:28.440 It almost feels like a veiled threat, a veiled threat to Mike Johnson, a veiled threat to the senators, a veiled threat to the congressmen that are set like like J.D. Vance, who, by the way,
00:31:38.160 has been named by President Zelensky in his increasingly deranged rants, saying that if you do not do this, the CIA will be coming after you.
00:31:46.860 That's exactly right.
00:31:48.420 I mean, and it's putting its hand directly on the scale of domestic politics, which is like rule numero uno of what the CIA is forbidden from doing.
00:31:59.740 The CIA is not allowed to operate on domestic soil.
00:32:03.140 It's not allowed to interfere in domestic politics.
00:32:04.960 It's not allowed to target U.S. citizens.
00:32:07.240 All three of those are massively, massively violated in the CIA disclosing highly, highly classified intelligence to handpick journalists of The New York Times for the express purpose of tilting an in-process legislative bill.
00:32:22.040 Look, the CIA is supposed to answer to us.
00:32:27.480 The chips fall where they may.
00:32:29.580 We, the people, decide how much money the CIA gets for operations.
00:32:34.120 If the CIA can play games with classifying and declassifying intelligence or selectively leaking it to favorable journalists in order to manipulate U.S. public opinion on an in-process government activity, that's what they do abroad.
00:32:48.100 That's why they have a plausible deniability doctrine.
00:32:51.100 That's why they are the Department of Dirty Tricks, because they are paid to do that to foreign countries, to manipulate their public opinions, to get their public legislatures to pass or kill bills affecting U.S. national interests.
00:33:05.200 It's our national interest, not the CIA's.
00:33:07.100 So that's one.
00:33:09.380 You know, the other is, is this was not a general all-open access media invitation to a highly classified military base on the outer banks of Ukraine.
00:33:18.780 They handpicked The New York Times.
00:33:20.880 Do you think for one second they would have given this story to Tucker Carlson?
00:33:24.820 Non-stop, all we heard a month ago was how Putin picked Tucker Carlson, and he didn't pick CNN, even though they asked for interviews.
00:33:34.740 They didn't pick The New York Times or The Washington Post, even though they asked for interviews.
00:33:37.980 An authoritarian government, only an authoritarian government, would handpick to a favorable source somebody that they might interview.
00:33:45.900 Our own secret police organization just did this right here, but it wasn't to interview a foreign, you know, a foreign dictator.
00:33:55.880 It was for how our own taxpayer dollars are being spent.
00:33:59.380 We can't get that level of transparency that we're demanding from Putin out of our own taxpayer-funded intelligence services.
00:34:09.160 So, you know, it puts the lie to everything we heard about the Tucker Putin when our own government is doing it 10 times worse. 0.53
00:34:17.400 And not only that, they pick winners and losers in the media market there.
00:34:22.280 So this is an interesting, an interesting sense that I always have because, so when I was in the intelligence community,
00:34:27.340 we were always told to view us and from, from foreign countries with a, with a level of skepticism.
00:34:33.180 And they would say, oh, well, something's in the China Daily or, you know, everybody knows, Providence is Vestia from Russia.
00:34:40.000 They say, oh, well, that's, that's the U.S. there.
00:34:41.780 That's the, that's the government line.
00:34:43.080 That's the regime line.
00:34:44.140 But then I would always, I would turn around to other people in the IC and say, hey, do you ever think of applying any of that to the United States media,
00:34:51.160 to CNN that you guys all have on, or, or increasingly MSNBC that you all have on in the spaces or in the skiffs?
00:34:57.320 And they would say, well, no, that's, that's not possible.
00:34:59.940 You know, this is, this is American media and it's never, it would never be like that.
00:35:03.800 I'm like, are you kidding me?
00:35:05.320 That's exactly what's going on.
00:35:08.380 Yeah.
00:35:09.000 I mean, it's New York though, you know, it's the New York Times problem.
00:35:12.120 I mean, this is exactly what it is.
00:35:13.580 It's everything that we've heard about for an entire century worth of scandals of the CIA and the press.
00:35:20.680 But, you know, another aspect of this that I think is important to touch on is the emphasis of the CIA's role here is very interesting because the Pentagon is currently losing this toe to toe overt war of NATO militaries against Russian militaries is working out very badly for the NATO side.
00:35:39.980 Territory continues to fall as, you know, Russia has basically totally evaded every, you know, sanctions attempt in the book by just, you know, we thought when we kicked them off of the European energy market, Russia would go bankrupt and there'd be no.
00:35:56.980 Very interesting that when, when this happened, I'm sorry about it.
00:36:08.720 I think we lost your, your mic there for a second.
00:36:10.580 I think it was on our end that, you know, what Russia did was they brought their supply chains back home. 0.69
00:36:16.240 They started building up their domestic manufacturing and they realized that if you do that, then sanctions won't hurt you.
00:36:21.600 I seem to remember someone saying that building up natural or domestic manufacturing capacity was a national security issue.
00:36:29.520 I can't remember what his name was, though.
00:36:31.740 I heard it pretty recently, too.
00:36:33.480 You know, it's, yeah.
00:36:35.740 No, that's exactly right.
00:36:37.520 But, you know, Russia being able to resupply immediately to China instead from the European market has allowed their war machine to continue completely uninterrupted. 0.57
00:36:46.540 And in that sustained war, where they are right on the edge of the Ukrainian border, as opposed to the U.S., who's a million miles away, or London, or any of the NATO states in Central Europe basically have no militaries at all.
00:37:00.300 And so, you know, this is a losing war toe-to-toe.
00:37:03.260 So the only way for there to be basically an ultimate quasi-military victory in the end is going to be through duplicity and subterfuge, which means at some point the NATO side is going to have to come to the bargaining table with Russia and do what they did with the Minsk Accords, which was effectively the declaration of a ceasefire.
00:37:25.400 And it came out, you know, just basically a year, year and a half ago, that all along the State Department's plan was never to observe those peacefires and to simply work behind the scenes through our intelligence services to wage a clandestine military operation town by town to recapture them.
00:37:44.480 And that is, I believe, where the puck is skating.
00:37:47.320 And this is why that—
00:37:48.640 Or, Mike, by the way, this is something I actually outlined earlier on the show a couple weeks ago.
00:37:54.360 I said, or, would it be even worse, a type of Operation Gladio 2.0, whereby in these groups, these units use their clandestine—
00:38:05.320 And remember, what did they say they were studying specifically in the New York Times article?
00:38:08.760 It said they were studying how to pass as Russians, which obviously would not be very hard.
00:38:14.340 So what would a group like that do?
00:38:15.780 Well, what was Operation Gladio 1.0 was to conduct false flag attacks and provocations across Europe and to blame it on the Russians.
00:38:22.280 And they used this to gin up support for operations against the Soviet Union during the Cold War.
00:38:27.920 Well, guess what, boys and girls?
00:38:29.580 Do you really know who did what in what town of Ukraine that's on the front lines, that's on the border in these places like Mariupol?
00:38:37.920 I mean, you're looking at an absolute—I think you said purgatory zone the other day about this.
00:38:44.120 That's exactly what we're looking at here in Ukraine.
00:38:46.400 I've only got you for a couple of minutes left, but I want to totally switch gears because there's something that you and I were involved in that recently got turned—oh, sorry, last point, last point.
00:38:54.760 Just super quick.
00:38:56.320 The Gladio example is totally perfect because it wasn't just about the Russians.
00:39:00.500 One of the most important aspects of the Gladio operation during the Cold War is that it was about picking the winners and losers in the domestic politics of all of the NATO member states.
00:39:10.140 So it wasn't—they used this cover of being sort of, you know, countering Russian influence, but it meant they picked whether the Green Party or whether the Christian Social Democrats were going to win in Germany or in, you know, in Sweden or in Italy or in France.
00:39:27.140 These were whole-of-society networks that were built up and essentially puppeteered by our intelligence services and our State Department and Pentagon intermediaries to be able to control the domestic politics of countries.
00:39:42.380 It's not—you know, so it was done under this, oh, we need to stop Soviet influence, but if any party rose to power that was against the interests of the blob, they would be obliterated by these stay-behind networks.
00:39:52.620 And so the political politics were controlled by the national security state.
00:39:56.980 But sorry, what you were going to say.
00:39:58.340 So you and I were blamed for this whole Taylor Swift thing.
00:40:03.260 President Biden's out talking about it.
00:40:05.600 And yet what I noticed is so incredible is the minute the Kansas City shooting happened, the whole story immediately gets turned off.
00:40:15.020 It's like the switch went off.
00:40:16.780 How do you disappear?
00:40:17.960 The biggest Super Bowl in history, you flip the switch, you turn it off, you say, we're not going to talk about it anymore.
00:40:26.200 And to me, that more than anything shows the power of the media, their story selection bias and their ability to simply turn something off with the flick of a switch.
00:40:36.260 No, that's true, although I'm very curious to see what happens just two months from now, because in May, Taylor will be starting her European tour.
00:40:47.720 And there was a direct plea by the head of the European Union to Taylor Swift.
00:40:53.400 You know, she happened to—she thought her tour was over.
00:40:55.840 They extended it.
00:40:56.640 It's now going to Europe.
00:40:57.460 And now the EU is asking Taylor to do a get-out-the-vote drive for pro-EU parties that have coincided.
00:41:05.660 Mike, we've got a break coming up.
00:41:06.840 Can you hang?
00:41:07.760 Can you hang for a minute?
00:41:08.500 Yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:41:09.540 Do you have a minute?
00:41:10.160 Yeah, hang. 1.00
00:41:10.620 Let's have—we're going to hang him. 1.00
00:41:11.720 We're hanging. 1.00
00:41:12.260 Ben's is hanging, folks. 0.90
00:41:13.280 He's going to hang.
00:41:14.080 We're going to let him finish everything because I'm going to be able to do that. 0.56
00:41:18.440 I'm going to let you finish.
00:41:19.620 I'm going to let you finish.
00:41:20.340 I'm going to let you finish.
00:41:20.400 We are back with Mike Benz.
00:41:27.720 I said he was going to—I said we could hang.
00:41:29.400 I wasn't sure if we were going to get him for the end of the show. 0.69
00:41:31.820 We said he could hang. 0.82
00:41:32.700 He said he's going to hang. 0.89
00:41:33.680 He's here. 0.92
00:41:34.200 I'm going to let him finish.
00:41:35.020 Mike Benz.
00:41:36.420 Yeah, so we were talking about this funny situation just returning to this Taylor Swift thing,
00:41:41.640 which is just funny again.
00:41:42.640 It's not as nearly as significant as these things around the CIA in Ukraine,
00:41:46.980 but it's very instructive because it gets to the question of sort of blob politics,
00:41:54.200 foreign policy establishment, engineering domestic politics by instrumentalizing things
00:42:00.860 that really shouldn't be instrumentalized.
00:42:02.680 So you have this strange situation where Taylor Swift had already concluded her Eras tour,
00:42:07.240 which was already the biggest tour in world history for a touring musician.
00:42:10.920 And then, you know, she basically extended the Eras tour to include all these different
00:42:17.400 European countries, which all happened to coincide with the EU parliamentary votes.
00:42:22.840 There's, you know, one of the things that the censorship industry is extremely concerned
00:42:26.600 about right now is that there's actually more elections this year around the world in
00:42:30.520 2024 than any year previously in civilizational history.
00:42:36.260 There's something like, I think, 65 or 85 elections around the world in only, you know, 180-some
00:42:42.440 countries.
00:42:43.600 And so, you know, the EU parliamentary elections are all over, you know, from Western Europe
00:42:49.400 into Central and Eastern Europe, the country this summer.
00:42:53.180 And this happens to be when Taylor Swift is doing a tour.
00:42:56.940 And that's really interesting because we've had Nigel Farage on recently.
00:43:00.460 He's been talking about this.
00:43:01.600 We know that in Poland, the Law and Justice Party is looking to make some comebacks there.
00:43:07.280 A lot of these, a lot of these parties, by the way, AFD in Germany, so many others are
00:43:10.660 looking to use these elections as sort of a springboard before their national elections
00:43:15.500 coming up.
00:43:16.300 Of course, France, by the way, this is a place where Le Pen is trying to get her party into
00:43:20.140 position where she can run for the presidency. 1.00
00:43:22.740 Again, looks like potentially a rematch with Macron or she'd run against some other, you know, 0.59
00:43:28.040 quasi-globalist technocrat sort of thing.
00:43:30.160 And so, yes, of course, they're obviously worried about the European Parliament.
00:43:34.160 And again, intrinsically linked, intrinsically linked to NATO and to the operations in Ukraine.
00:43:42.620 And mark my words, the State Department and the CIA are putting their thumb on the press
00:43:48.540 of every one of those elections in France, in Italy, in Spain, in Germany, in Sweden, in Finland.
00:43:56.540 Every single one of these elections is going to be this same issue around the sort of pro-NATO
00:44:04.040 establishment parties versus populist insurgent groups.
00:44:07.440 And the nightmare situation for NATO and the blob is that there will be a sufficient block
00:44:15.280 in the parliaments of these EU countries that they will hold up war funding or they will
00:44:20.920 hold up war support for the situation in Ukraine, just like what's happening right now in the
00:44:26.180 U.S. with this new populist bloc in the House, because the House has control over the purse strings, 0.83
00:44:31.480 that is appropriations, and that they can potentially also veto, you know, this Senate bill,
00:44:37.900 that they want to make sure that all of the EU member states are avoiding this Mike Johnson problem
00:44:45.520 that right now is the reason that the CIA just interfered with domestic political affairs here in the U.S.
00:44:51.800 They want to make sure that the parliaments in Germany, in Italy, in France, in Spain don't go
00:44:57.600 through the same thing, and that they don't elect leaders or have significant parliamentary blocks
00:45:02.700 who are hostile. And so they are using every instrument at their disposal. Now, I ran into this
00:45:08.120 in the censorship industry, because as soon as you start looking into how censorship works in Germany,
00:45:13.460 how censorship works in Spain, how censorship works in Italy, and every NATO member state,
00:45:18.100 what you find is National Endowment for Democracy funding. That's the CIA's top preferred cutout,
00:45:24.780 and has been for 50, 40 years now. You find National Endowment for Democracy funding for these
00:45:29.640 censorship groups, which means the CIA is intermediating that, and you find USAID funding
00:45:34.640 for these groups, which means the State Department is intermediating that, and you find direct State
00:45:38.900 Department grants. So this is all, you know, they're already instrumentalizing things around censorship of
00:45:44.580 the internet. We know that they're doing that through these cultural groups, such as the NGOs
00:45:48.400 and the State Department-funded university centers, as well as through their donor-drafter friends,
00:45:55.260 like the Soros Networks, as well as the Omidyar and others. So they're going to put their thumb on
00:46:03.120 the press to do that in every way conceivable. And what I thought was so interesting about the
00:46:07.520 Taylor Swift tour coinciding with these EU parliamentary votes in country after country is that you had a
00:46:13.280 direct plea from the head of the European Union to Taylor Swift publicly calling for a direct liaison
00:46:20.660 with her media relations team in order to get her to do get out the vote drive votes, to get young 1.00
00:46:26.240 people to vote who vote disproportionately for pro-EU candidates as young people disproportionately vote
00:46:32.020 Democrat here in the U.S. And by the way, you can see this in Politico EU. You can see that in
00:46:39.340 Time Magazine. Here you go. Euronews.com. Could Taylor Swift stop the rise of the far right in
00:46:45.720 Europe? Europe and Politico EU. Just a couple of days ago. Europe's desperate and unfulfilled
00:46:50.680 longing for Taylor Swift. Oh my gosh. It's like they're listening to these. It's no, but no,
00:46:57.040 you and I are just making it all up. We're pulling it out of our hat. You know, it's totally crazy
00:47:00.680 tinfoil stuff. It's definitely not like the head of the EU is trying to get Taylor Swift on board with
00:47:08.500 all of this. I guess the biggest, the biggest thing that I will say, and I guess you and I both have to
00:47:12.460 say is that it seems as though she hasn't, hasn't done anything to get involved at least as of yet.
00:47:18.880 Yes. I, I don't think that she even necessarily wants to, I think, you know, this is one of these
00:47:24.200 things where there will be pressure on her ability to have distribution. You know, this is something
00:47:29.000 that's been done for a long time in the music industry is, you know, if you are, you know,
00:47:33.320 if you are good to the program, you know, if you're a Bono type or a Sting and you're willing to do,
00:47:38.040 you know, the, you know, you're willing to put on these big mega concerts and do these slogans to,
00:47:43.780 you know, for, I mean, look at, you know, the, the, I don't think Bono has done a, a concert in the,
00:47:49.640 in the past 20 years that has not been for the geopolitical goal of the blob. And so, you know,
00:47:54.980 I think that there are certain go along to get along things. And while the Taylor Swift sort
00:47:59.640 of surge has subsided, uh, since the Superbowl ended, uh, I believe that she will be rolled out
00:48:06.940 as the, as the election season approaches in Europe. And then we'll probably go quiet for two months
00:48:12.580 after, after that, and then we'll return shortly ahead of November, assuming that there even is,
00:48:17.880 uh, a November vote in this country. Oh my gosh. With the last minute, he, he drops the bombshell.
00:48:24.300 That's the cliffhanger folks. That's the cliffhanger. If there even is, you know,
00:48:28.860 and I, and I think we're all kind of wondering what will be the next shoe that drops as though
00:48:32.980 it seems, seems though president Trump has done incredibly well, preacher naturally well in all
00:48:38.660 of these cases with everything that's thrown at him. He just keeps going. I don't know folks,
00:48:42.800 what can I say? It's not an inside straight. It's the mandate of heaven. Mike Benz,
00:48:47.580 where can people go to follow you? So find me on X at Mike Benz cyber. I do a stream and an AMA
00:48:53.420 for subscribers every week and foundation for freedom online.com. Thanks Jack. This is the last
00:48:57.900 see you there. See you on video spaces soon, man. Ladies and gentlemen, as always,
00:49:03.020 you have my permission to let short.