EPISODE 688: ESCALATION - Biden Uses SOTU to Announce Emergency US Military Deployment in Middle East War
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On this episode of Human Events Daily, host Jack Posobiec and co-host Darren Beattie discuss the Democratic response to Joe Biden's State of the Union address, and whether or not it was actually a good or bad one.
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It was manic, dishonest, delusional, duplicitous.
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And I tell you now, the main thing that whoever that person was giving the Republican response missed.
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There's one name that I didn't hear coming out of your mouth.
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Because this man who's sitting there is an illegitimate president.
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And the legitimate president of the United States is Donald J. Trump.
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And he will return when he is victorious on November 5th.
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Ladies and gentlemen, this is the last time you're ever going to have to hear Joe Biden up there for all that time.
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Darren Beattie is with us in our studio, West Palm Beach.
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Well, I mean, to appropriate maybe the good adjectives from the response, it was doddering.
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Although I think graded on a curve, and the curve is one in which basically he collapses mid-speech.
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The fact that he didn't have an accident in his pants, presumably.
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The fact that he was able to muster enough energy to yell, albeit in very awkward moments.
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I thought that that was at least a kind of measured success from his point.
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I think he basically ends up in a neutral position here.
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He didn't have a disaster moment, which for him is basically a resounding success.
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This was, honestly, when it comes down to it, I thought that his speech, in terms of its delivery, aside from the chokes and the coughs and the stuttering, it was mostly boring.
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Because there was a huge, a huge point that came out.
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And we're going to get into that here in the next segment.
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Because he just announced that the United States military is getting involved and deploying to another Middle East war.
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This is exactly the opposite of what we heard from President Trump.
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This is the opposite of what the American people want.
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This is the opposite of what the American people need.
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This is the opposite of what people like Lakin Riley need.
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Darren, we need to get into this announcement that Biden tried to slip into the State of the Union
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the same way that he's allowed 13 million illegals to slip into this country, including gangs,
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because we do now have the breaking news that the suspected murderer of Laken Reilly
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was actually a member of one of these Venezuelan, these extremely violent Venezuelan gangs.
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But claiming that because the humanitarian issues regarding Gaza are so great,
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and it's obviously been such a political disaster for him in state after state,
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not to mention Michigan and Minnesota, possibly North Virginia as well,
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that he's been attempting to do this airlift of supplies into Gaza City.
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This was a complete disaster, and people are actually killed by the supplies that were diving in,
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that he's now announced that the United States Navy will apparently be conducting a maritime sea lift
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The only problem being that Gaza doesn't have a capable port for this.
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And so he's now announcing the U.S. military will be building a temporary pier using units operating out of Cyprus
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I think at this point it would be certain to backfire, given not only the history of the region,
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but the fact that you've got targets in the region, like the Houthis,
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that are already using drones and kamikaze drones at a high rate across the Red Sea.
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Certainly Hezbollah has these capabilities, as well as Hamas just simply wanting to from the start.
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I wanted to also say, though, this is exactly how the Gulf of Tonkin incident happened,
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that the United States military, the Navy was there, supposed to be there for these,
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you know, for peacekeeping operations, et cetera, et cetera.
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And when in actuality what was going on is that they were using those naval vessels
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and those missions as a cover for covert operations.
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This will clearly be used for covert operations.
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Walk me through some of the dangers of the United States getting involved in yet another Middle East war like this.
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First of all, I can't help but cling on to this fact that you presented,
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that in early humanitarian efforts people were actually killed through various airlifts.
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You can only imagine the irony of a Hamas operative who has survived the utter destruction visited on Gaza
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only to perish when a bag of rice drops on his head.
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So that is kind of a bizarre and ironic situation in the first place that I think exemplifies the bungling
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that's become all too typical of anything associated with Biden and certainly anything foreign policy associated with Biden.
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And I think the broader context for this alleged humanitarian, ramped up humanitarian effort,
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it's really just the political fissure within the Democrat Party.
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And in fact, we saw that last night with all the protesters who were outside trying to prevent this state of the union from even happening.
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But what people, I think, underestimate is just how much tension is simmering beneath the surface.
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And that if Biden weren't a factor, if Biden were somehow removed,
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all of these tensions would really come to the fore in a dramatic way,
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because the Israel-Gaza thing is really just kind of, it really exemplifies pre-existing tensions that exist within the Democrat coalition
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that are being sort of temporarily kept at bay, although we see spillover.
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And of course, you know, Biden tries to thread that needle.
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You saw in the speech, he began basically saying, you know, this is a horrible situation.
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I'm the most, you know, pro-Israel president ever.
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And he gave an explicit nod to some family of the hostages who are still being held.
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But of course, you can't just leave it at that.
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He has to present some kind of semblance of balance,
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because you have a lot of the Democrat base frothing at the mouth.
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as I'm sure many watching this have seen the video clip of AOC being harassed coming out.
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I think she was watching Dune 2 or maybe some other movie,
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and she was being harassed by unhinged activists who think that she's not sufficiently anti-Israel, pro-Palestine.
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So if she's getting heat, you can imagine the kind of pressure on someone like Biden.
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It makes zero sense from a geopolitical perspective.
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As you point out, it's only going to make things worse.
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It's only another attack surface that increases the likelihood of a broader conflagration.
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And all it really is is for this one-liner to present a semblance of balance
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to assuage the increasingly frenetic elements of the base
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that think that Biden's been too accommodating to Israel.
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So it's a great example of a huge foreign policy risk and really mistake,
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but it's a foreign policy mistake being made not on foreign policy terms,
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but with domestic considerations in mind is my view.
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It absolutely wouldn't be the first time that a U.S. president had used the ordering of troops
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into some, again, Middle Eastern conflict in an election year
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to try to try to bolster their flagging polls, or in this case, not only that, but also to bolster the coalition.
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By the way, that Gulf of Tonkin incident, 1964, the summer of 1964.
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So this is just a couple of months after the assassination of JFK and the first time that LBJ was up for his own election,
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which would turn out to be his only election, his one, I guess we can say, his one official term in office.
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It's also, it reminds me of Jimmy Carter and the Desert One mission where he authorized and ordered this,
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actually, before JSOC got set up, and this is really kind of the origin story of JSOC,
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was this failure to retrieve the Iranian hostages.
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Again, to your point, another failed hostage mission where covert action was used with cover to attempt to get people out.
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It honestly wouldn't surprise me if they tried to push, or the guys at DevGrew, Steel Team 6,
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were trying to push for some attempted hostage rescue.
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I'm sure, by the way, in good faith, trying to work with this.
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The IDF, of course, a close partner of U.S. military.
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That being said, certainly IDF is very capable on their own.
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And so this isn't like some African country partner force.
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You know, this is a very serious special forces there.
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And so if there were to be any joint mission, I would certainly imagine that IDF had the operational control of it.
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So indeed, there's probably some kind of covert plan behind this pretext.
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But I would still say the driving force of things really is the domestic political consideration
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and maintaining a lid as much as possible on this simmering tension that is only intensified
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between the kind of aggravated, youthful elements of the base who don't think that Biden has done enough
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to be pro-Palestine, I suppose, and Biden's other considerations,
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which is, of course, to maintain proper relations and alliance with Israel.
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So this, I think, is a really serious tension within the Democrat Party,
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and not just a tension with respect to that Israel-Palestine issue specifically,
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but that kind of is representative of a deeper fissure, I think,
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and a reckoning that ultimately will have to take place.
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But Biden, for all of his bungling, maybe the best value, the best service he offers the Democrats
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is he allows them to kick the can down the road just a little bit,
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because he's accepted, he's familiar, he's kind of a compromised legacy candidate.
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But if he were to, God forbid, you know, have a stroke or something, then he's gone,
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then all of these factions would come to the fore,
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and the Israel-Palestine thing would be a huge issue in determining what comes next.
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And, of course, we've seen time and time again where the Biden administration,
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they've dispatched Roquehanna to Michigan, Dearborn, Michigan.
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They've dispatched multiple individuals to areas throughout Minnesota.
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And there's a certain irony there, and we're coming up on our break,
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but there's an absolute irony there that these refugee communities were put in place
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in predominantly the Midwest because of the Obama administration policies
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to just basically dump asylum seekers and refugees from the Middle East
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and now suddenly they don't support the policies that your administration
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Literally every conservative told you that this would happen, but here we are.
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Darren, one of the more, I think, jarring moments of the night, probably the only real,
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I guess, disaster moment that you could say for Biden was the, I shouldn't use this word,
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the butchering of the name of Laken Riley, a girl who had been butchered herself at the hands
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This situation where would have been a very strong moment for him, and I said this on
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a Twitter spaces this morning, that it would have been very strong for him to simply show
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Obviously, Laken Riley was not a conservative or a Republican or some political representative,
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And it would have been very strong for him to just come out and say some moment, you know,
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But instead, we hear about IVF users, and we hear about the woman who desperately needed
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an abortion, and she had to leave Texas and all of these things.
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And certainly, the Democrats are very desperate to make the 2024 election about that.
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But unfortunately, because of these incidents, like what happened to Laken Riley, death at
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the hands of what seems to be now a Venezuelan gang member, this was a huge faceplant moment
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for Biden, something where I, again, I said before, I would have loved if J.D. Vance had
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But given that the border is now such a powerful issue in the country, do you think that this
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really gives Republicans and President Trump the upper hand?
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Well, I think they have the upper hand for many reasons.
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That is to say, Trump and the Republicans, I certainly think that any ordinary Americans
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who see the situation, who understand, even, you know, in parts, what's going on in the
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It should, frankly, transcend political affiliations.
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This is existential stuff that gets to not what kind of country we are, but the question
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of whether we are even a country in any meaningful sense.
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In fact, the border situation is so disastrous that I think a lot of people want to look away
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It's always been sort of an interesting aspect in media that a lot of border stories actually
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don't get the kind of attention that even sort of inner-city crime stories do.
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And one explanation offered for that that I find fairly persuasive is the border stuff
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is simply so demoralizing because it's going on, it's been going on for so long, and now
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it's so bad, and it doesn't seem like the system is really set up to correct it at all.
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And in the case of Biden, they're actively inviting it, enthusiastically inviting it.
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They're pouring in, and you don't need tragic situations like this poor nursing student who
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Think about, you know, just even not the tragedies like that.
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Just think about the fact that we're putting them up in five-star hotels.
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And I know a lot of these are in, you know, cities, and we could say, okay, well, you know,
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It's still our country that we want to present, and to have them come in and to treat them
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with this kind of red carpet luxury that is so far away from the experience of most citizens,
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And it's an unfathomable disgrace for our leadership, all the way up to the top.
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And so I certainly think that this should be exploited electorally.
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But I think there's a demoralized sense in people that ultimately, more or less, this
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Can we even imagine the Republicans mustering the will to do what would need to be done
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to really correct the issue after so long of all of these people pouring in?
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And remember, their kids are all legal citizens.
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It's not even the legal part, the illegal part.
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Anytime they have a kid, that becomes a citizen.
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Not a lot of people have picked up on this, but he did mention Dreamers.
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And I think he, I don't think he said pathway to citizenship, but he said pathway to legalization
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But I'm simply talking about the fact that the legals, when they're here and they have
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kids, they don't even have to be Dreamers because they're automatically citizens.
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So it's like, ultimately, the problem is like, yes, we have a certain amount of illegals,
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but the generational problem is all of their offspring, simply by virtue of being born on
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And there's a reason they call them anchor babies.
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That anchors the whole family and titles them to all of the benefits, the social benefits,
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It's hard to imagine how all of this is sustainable, yet it's been going on for decades and getting
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So really, like the border situation is so existentially bad that I think people have
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difficulty even processing it, which prevents people from paying enough attention to it that
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It's just really overwhelming when you get into the true nature of what's been going on and
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Well, and this for me was, and I credit to Katie Britt for making a lot of her comments
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about the border, centering a lot of her comments about the border.
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But what I would say that the one piece of the Republican response that I think was missed
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and left on the table was that certainly we can catalog and all of the ills of the Biden
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administration, we can describe the mess that's going on right now.
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Even Biden himself, by the way, in response to the invocation of Lake and Riley, he totally
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steps in it and says, hey, we've got thousands of people that are being killed by legals too.
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It's like, that's not a good response, brother.
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That's not, you know, grandpa, that's not exactly the way you should respond to this.
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But the piece of it is, though, as a party response, what you need to be offering is an
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That is the reason for engaging in politics as an enterprise to begin with.
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And that's where not invoking the name of Donald Trump, not saying we have a candidate on the
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ballot and a message who is going to come forward and say, and it's very simple.
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We don't want this to be a referendum election on IVF or abortion.
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We want this very much to be a referendum on mass deportations, not just the wall, not
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The wall's baked in, the wall's priced in, the wall was 2016.
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We didn't get the wall all the way finished and, you know, people tried to build it and
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they want to put Steve Bannon in jail over that.
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But no, no, now it's mass deportations because we didn't get the wall.
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I think that if President Trump continues to push that, and to his credit, he certainly
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has in almost every one of his recent some speeches.
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And I think that when it comes to the Senate right now, there's a number of bills that are
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Shut down the border or shut down the government.
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And number two, you must put mass deportations on the agenda.
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Darren, do you think that if Trump is able to use that like he used the wall, you know,
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even we're going to deport them and make them make them pay for it themselves or something
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like that, it would get the same kind of traction that the wall did in 2016?
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You know, that's a great that's a really great question.
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I think, you know, I've been always a huge proponent of the wall.
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In terms of actual effective enforcement, I think you have to focus on interior enforcement.
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And one dimension of that would be deportations.
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But I think, you know, just because the problem is so overwhelming and really so offensive that
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people sometimes assume that the solution has to be the most kind of controversial rhetorically,
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when I think a lot could be done simply by enforcement mechanisms, employment enforcement
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and mechanisms, have a real e-verify type system and don't pay for their five star hotels.
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If the government social services didn't pay them any money and if they were not able to
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But I think the self deportation would do a lot of the work for it.
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And then in addition to that, we could provide some assistance for those who haven't helped
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But people underestimate the power of self deportation and think, oh, we need all of these crazy things.
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And any serious country should be willing to do that and has the right to do that.
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But if you start with just the basics, like that's how crazy the situation is.
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We can simply say, if you're not here legally, the system is such that you can't work.
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And if you're here, we're not going to pay for you to stay at the Roosevelt Hotel indefinitely.
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On the Lake and Riley situation, I know we have a quick break here, that when investigating
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the alleged murderer in Lake and Riley's case, it turns out that his brother was working,
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I believe, either at one of the universities that was down there that were involved in this.
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He was working there and they fired him because they found that he had a fake green card.
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Why couldn't you just check that through E-Verify to begin with?
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And why do you have a Venezuelan gang member, gangbanger working at a university cook room?
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But it actually, on the other hand, also shows us that if we, as you say, if we just switch
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on these enforcement mechanisms a little bit, just a little bit, that we'll immediately
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start getting the deportations turned on much faster than people realize.
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And as you say, some people will have to be helped.
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We're always talking about the fake news and the bad, but we have guys.
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And these are the guys who'll be getting Pulisic.
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All right, Jack, back live, Human Events Daily, folks.
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Darren Beattie, you're not someone who's been ever wary to speak on the issue of January 6th.
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He brought it up again and again throughout the speech, probably even as many times as
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It really seems like he's trying to put January 6th on the ballot, isn't he?
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He's certainly trying to highlight the significance of January 6th.
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And I think it's important to speak a little bit about the background here.
00:32:50.720
Because sometimes, you know, we have groundbreaking stuff on January 6th, and we're very close
00:32:57.220
Everyone's asking me, when's the follow-up piece?
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It's taken a while, but that's because there's a lot there.
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It's going to be there in the coming, probably next week.
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And it's not relevant because I'm talking about it.
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Of course, we want justice for the political prisoners who are still wallowing away, in
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But it's relevant because the Democrats continue to make it an issue, not just as the pretext
00:33:29.860
to weaponize the national security state against the American people, but the legal pretext
00:33:36.500
that they've used to remove Trump from ballots.
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They're counting on January 6th as a means to defeat Trump through extracurricular practices.
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So when you say, are they trying to put January 6th on the ballot?
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January 6th and the false fedsurrection narrative behind it, and specifically that Trump was somehow
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involved, that is the cornerstone of the legal pretext they're using to remove the question
00:34:13.560
So it's a way for them to circumvent the ballot more so than it's a question for the ballot.
00:34:19.380
And I think it's complementary in that sense to the abortion issue, which is very much a
00:34:31.740
It's a lawfare strategy aimed at undermining Trump through extracurricular means, taking
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him off the ballot, throwing these phony criminal charges and civil suits at him, and January 6th
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and the false narrative behind it is a major pillar of that.
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Then the other aspect, which is more of the ballot issue, the retail issue, the mobilization
00:34:59.640
And you saw that in the way that Biden talked about it.
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He said something like, oh, in fact, he directly addressed the Supreme Court and said basically,
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oh, you know, you're about to find out how much political power women have, you know,
00:35:13.080
come November because they're all going to be riled up about the abortion issue.
00:35:18.680
And I think on that, you know, he's right that it is very much an electoral issue that they're
00:35:27.460
But really, it's the two-pronged strategy, extracurricular, legal, January 6th, ballot,
00:35:35.280
retail, abortion, or what they would call pro-choice.
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And so when we, or women's rights as well, and to that, in that vein, we have this Republican
00:35:47.200
response, which is given, I think, an attempt to sort of lean in on that.
00:35:53.440
Obviously, Republicans playing identity politics here the same way they have been doing.
00:35:58.380
Ann Coulter actually mentioned in her column today that this is the ninth consecutive State
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So that means nine years in a row, or I should say nine years when a Democrat was president,
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in the Republicans giving a response that either went to a female or a minority.
00:36:15.940
And this obviously was brought up again and again in terms of it.
00:36:20.540
I'd said before I would have loved if President Trump's name had been brought up as a way as
00:36:24.920
a solution to the problems, not just describing the problems and telling us how emotionally involved
00:36:31.280
you are in the problems and how much it affects you as a mother and all of these things.
00:36:36.660
But also, you know, to a greater extent, the fact that, you know, you do have these other
00:36:43.420
issues out there that I think could have been addressed in a different way and that we have
00:36:57.720
You know, a lot of people on the right, you know, when they think about affirmative action,
00:37:01.920
they think about, you know, Harvard and universities and maybe corporate settings and so forth.
00:37:07.120
But the real truth is that no institution practices affirmative action more clumsily, egregiously,
00:37:16.920
and enthusiastically than the Republican Party and even a lot of conservative institutions.
00:37:28.280
And in fact, the State of the Union response is a particularly viable place for that type
00:37:35.920
of display because it's really sort of like a nothing, you know, figurehead type of gesture.
00:37:44.180
We were talking this on the break, is that I can't think of the last time or any time,
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frankly, that a State of the Union response has sort of been anyone's big breakout moment
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I can think of, you know, convention speeches and things like that.
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But the State of the Union response sort of built into the structure of it, it's going
00:38:08.360
And for that reason, I think it's actually maybe a blessing in disguise that, you know,
00:38:12.940
someone more serious that I like tremendously, like J.D. Vance wasn't giving it, because it
00:38:18.380
is kind of like an offhand, OK, here you go, because you're not serious.
00:38:22.500
That's that's the kind of hidden pretext from being for being offered that to begin with.
00:38:28.180
And also, I thought, yeah, it's bizarre that there was no mention of no mention of Trump
00:38:35.620
And, you know, look, he's the he's the frontrunner by far.
00:38:41.500
And he's not given credit for the quite successful under, you know, face a lot of challenges and
00:38:48.980
But compared to Biden, he was extremely successful on the border and a lot of the other dimensions
00:38:58.720
But it hits some, you know, relevant issues, crime, border.
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I like to see that the whole context of it was kind of underwhelming.
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And the delivery was, frankly, kind of a caricature.
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You know, I think you've used the term theater, kid.
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To me, it hit me like I was watching an audition for like a B-rate soap opera.
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Yeah, I saw a tweet about this that's been going around today where, you know, I saw it
00:39:29.940
So, of course, it must be true that that they said the Las Vegas bookers aren't even allowing
00:39:36.100
people to put odds on whether or not SNL is going to do a sketch of this because it's
00:39:44.560
And that's nothing against Senator Britz personally, I don't think anyone has any personal issues.
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Maybe that counts for more, you know, overwhelms all the other factors.
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And she doesn't usually deliver a speeches like this.
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It was like when someone's given a certain song and then every woman wants to sing it
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like Whitney Houston or Mariah Carey, you know, there was that clumsy, clumsy mismatch
00:40:19.180
between, you know, what she was saying and the actual delivery of it.
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And, frankly, I did kind of feel sorry for whatever poor guy had to write that speech
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As a former speechwriter myself, I can imagine.
00:40:32.060
We want to, the kitchen table needs to be the star of the show here.
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Too many, too many cooks in the kitchen, perhaps.
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We'll be talking about some people who popped out of the kitchen here in the next segment.
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He is telling our future right in front of our lives.
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And to declare the richness and sacred we will say as we drink and eat together.
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Remind us, oh God, that the wine that we do is a wine that marries in our hearts.
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I will peace within the heat with the mercy of the Army
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All right, Jack, so we hear back live. So what you just saw was an event from American
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moment that I attended a couple of nights ago in D.C. where Senator J.D. Vance was speaking,
00:42:23.400
where David Sachs, the great David Sachs, received an award from the organization American Moment.
00:42:29.040
The gala was called the Gala for American Statecraft. Incredible, super excited to be
00:42:34.020
invited. And that was Tom Sauer, a United States Navy EOD vet, and myself, the first
00:42:43.300
two to pop up out of our seats when these, you know, this commie riffraff popped out of the,
00:42:50.160
you know, sort of service room, you know, door, started protesting Vance. Tom gets up and just
00:42:56.960
starts tossing them out the door. Tom joins us now. Tom, what did you think other than,
00:43:03.440
you know, abject rage when you saw them come in there?
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Um, I'll be honest. Hey, first, thanks. Thanks for having me on. Good to see you again, buddy.
00:43:11.980
Uh, honestly, I was kind of excited. I shouldn't say that. I got a little bit, I could tell because
00:43:18.420
I got really pissed off because I'm very dear friends like you are with Sraab and Nick and Sam
00:43:25.300
and all the guys at American Moment. Love J.D. Love Dave Sachs were there. And this is like a really big
00:43:30.420
event for them. They put a ton of work into, and then they decide to interrupt it in the middle
00:43:35.260
of the invocation at the very beginning when Yuri Brito was given the prayer in the middle of the
00:43:41.200
prayer. My opinion was like, F you guys do not care. You're getting tossed. And then, um, the one
00:43:49.400
young guy, the one, um, I guess there are a couple of Ukrainian guys that were there. The one that got
00:43:54.780
physical with me and threw a couple of slaps at me or whatever. And I may or may not have returned the
00:43:58.980
favor off camera. But the thing is, is like, he wanted me to hit him. He kept sticking his chin
00:44:04.580
out, man. It was really strange. Anyways, threw him out. I got a little scratch. It was nothing.
00:44:09.800
But when it was over, I was like excited because I hadn't been in a fight in years or, and it wasn't
00:44:14.500
really much of a fight. It was hardly anything more happened off camera. You can't quite see that,
00:44:18.700
but whatever. I was excited. I had a little adrenaline rush. And I even thought I said to Natalie,
00:44:23.640
and I think I sent it over to you at the stable, Jack. I'm like, can they come back? I just wanted to come back.
00:44:27.940
No, you actually tweeted that, by the way. That was great. It was fun. It was a highlight of the evening.
00:44:32.200
No, I remember when I got up, when you got, when you came in front of me,
00:44:35.020
I actually put my hand on your shoulder and it wasn't like trying to get you out of my way or
00:44:38.660
something. I was kind of being like, like, Tom, I wasn't worried about, uh, uh, worry for you.
00:44:46.380
I was worried about what you might do to them. It's like, no, no, no, no, no, no, Tom. It's okay.
00:44:52.100
We'll be, we'll be all right. But it was Darren. It was fine. I want to, I want to get Darren here real quick.
00:44:57.340
Little blood, little blood, little blood. I may have had a couple, a couple of elbows that got in
00:45:02.180
there. Darren, is this the energy that we need going into 2024? I said something about this is,
00:45:09.500
this isn't the old right. We don't call the cops. Um, there is this tendency on the old right to sort
00:45:15.460
of, Oh, we view them as good people who just don't understand the unintended consequences of their
00:45:22.080
decisions, et cetera, et cetera. Uh, but when we're faced with, you know, abject communists
00:45:26.800
like this, should we treat them in good faith or should we give them the boot?
00:45:32.040
Well, obviously don't treat them in good faith. It's, it's remarkable to me that if anything is
00:45:37.020
going to get you riled up to the point of causing that type of disturbance, it's about fossil fuels. I
00:45:43.180
can't imagine getting so emotionally attached to the issue of fossil fuels one way or another. So it's a very
00:45:48.800
bizarre mechanism there. Um, and yes, you know, congratulations for getting rid of them. If
00:45:54.640
anything, you know, it should be a little bit more, um, uh, vigorous as a response. I think we can all
00:46:01.840
take a cue from, I think it was Joe Manchin or his security people. I think they, uh, paved the way
00:46:08.200
forward for, um, for how to deal with these people. But, um, yeah, it's, it's just nasty. It's
00:46:14.760
disruptive. It's stupid. Um, and it shouldn't be tolerated. It's like, but I'm just waiting.
00:46:22.400
I'm just waiting for the left to try to portray this as like, um, our, uh, Altamont concert.
00:46:31.200
Oh, no, no, there was a, there was a Brookings, um, you know, there was a Brookings, uh, consultant
00:46:38.180
or some such thing who quote, quote, tweeted my video and said, look at how activism escalates
00:46:45.220
into aggression. And, you know, it was putting this. So I, I quote tweeted her. I said, look
00:46:49.900
at how, look at how Brookings is paid to gaslight when we can see who the aggressors are here.
00:46:56.200
And I said, by the way, that wasn't Tom Sauer being aggressive. That was Tom being nice.
00:47:01.000
I was being nice. It's true. And here's something crazy guys. I'm not sure if, uh, everyone knows
00:47:07.520
this. Those or those people, that group, they tried to buy tickets to the event, which was not
00:47:13.760
cheap. I mean, all around like several thousand dollars to get multiple tickets to that event,
00:47:18.620
right? It was a donor event. And, uh, the very clever people at American Moment didn't recognize
00:47:24.560
the name, did a little bit of homework, promptly rejected the tickets, refunded the money. I wish
00:47:29.040
they hadn't refunded the money, but that's, I think they tried to get in that way to get seats
00:47:33.040
at the event. And when that didn't work, uh, they got let in somehow through the kitchen
00:47:36.660
in the back. And then I wondered to myself, there's several thousand dollars.
00:47:39.640
I'm a theory that somebody at the hotel might, uh, not, not to cast aspersions, but it was kind
00:47:44.220
of interesting to see how they got into that service, uh, that service area. We only got a minute
00:47:49.100
left in the show. Tom, where can people go to follow you? Um, you find me on Twitter at
00:47:53.860
Thomas B Sauer. I was here in DC, uh, for a few days here strictly to advocate for veterans,
00:47:58.780
mental health, and addiction treatment, uh, through the VA. So that's my, uh, the primary
00:48:02.900
reason I was here, but also to visit with, uh, you and Tanya and, uh, and our good friends
00:48:07.320
at American Moment. Amen. It's been, it's been a minute. People don't realize that Tom and
00:48:11.580
I actually served together when we were in the Navy. He was bomb Navy bomb squad and I was
00:48:15.460
his weenie Intel officer. Darren Beattie, where can people go to follow you? I let you say it,
00:48:19.220
not me. Revolver.news. Revolver.news, the hottest, the edgiest, the most dangerous
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