Human Events Daily with Jack Posobiec - March 22, 2024


EPISODE 698： THE MICROREVOLUTION AGAINST TRUMP, THE CULTURAL REVOLUTION OF CHINA


Episode Stats

Length

49 minutes

Words per Minute

172.42787

Word Count

8,450

Sentence Count

492

Misogynist Sentences

2

Hate Speech Sentences

17


Summary

On today's show, Jack Posobiec talks about the latest mass shooting in El Paso, Texas, and how the Chinese Cultural Revolution is being depicted in a Hollywood movie. Plus, the latest on the border crisis and the latest in the Mueller investigation.


Transcript

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00:00:49.240 Deliver us from evil.
00:00:50.900 In both the House and Senate have less than 18 hours to pass a massive $1.2 trillion spending
00:00:57.220 package to fund the federal government.
00:00:59.060 To my House and Senate Republican colleagues, it's time to put your money where your mouth is.
00:01:03.900 You can't claim to be a pro-life champion and then fund abortion, abortion travel.
00:01:09.060 You can't rail against President Biden's intentional illegal invasion and then fund the policies
00:01:14.620 that are causing the chaos without assuming the same responsibility.
00:01:19.000 This morning, tensions escalating on the Texas border.
00:01:22.160 Dramatic new video shows a struggle between Border Patrol and migrants in El Paso.
00:01:27.420 The migrants were eventually stopped by a steel fence, where border agents in Texas DPS
00:01:32.800 contained the situation and processed the 400 to 600 migrants.
00:01:37.480 Secretary of State Antony Blinken arrived in Israel this morning, just hours before the
00:01:42.260 U.N. is set to vote on a U.S. proposal for an immediate and sustained ceasefire.
00:01:47.520 The U.S. has vetoed similar resolutions in the past.
00:01:51.800 Jackson County officials are now announcing a third adult and a third juvenile have been
00:01:55.680 charged in the mass shooting.
00:01:56.940 20-year-old Terry Young faces charges including second-degree murder, unlawful use of a weapon,
00:02:01.560 and two counts of armed criminal action.
00:02:03.500 A third teen now also charged with unlawful use of a weapon and armed criminal action.
00:02:08.440 He's being held in a juvenile detention center.
00:02:10.820 He could be tried as an adult.
00:02:12.080 With former President Trump's bond payment deadline looming, New York Attorney General
00:02:16.060 Letitia James is laying the groundwork to seize some of his assets, Trump's golf course
00:02:20.540 and his estate in Westchester County, should the former president fail to post his $464 million
00:02:26.240 bond by Monday.
00:02:27.560 Ladies and gentlemen, welcome aboard today's edition of Human Event.
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00:02:59.900 Today is March 22nd, 2024, Anno Domini.
00:03:05.260 Folks, that clip that we just showed you was incredible.
00:03:09.900 This is the first time in my life, and I've been talking about this for years now, that
00:03:17.080 the Chinese Communist Party's Chinese Cultural Revolution was actually depicted in a Hollywood
00:03:25.580 film.
00:03:26.200 Now, this is a sci-fi movie that's coming out on Netflix or is short to be released.
00:03:33.520 It's based on The Three-Body Problem, which was written about 15 years ago.
00:03:38.460 Super popular book in the sci-fi circles, won the Hugo Award.
00:03:43.000 But it opens with the main character's father being killed, beaten to death,
00:03:48.420 at a struggle session of the Chinese Communist Party, of the Cultural Revolution.
00:03:53.840 There you see the red guard.
00:03:55.360 You see the little red book, Mao's little red book.
00:03:58.240 You see the dunce cap, which is placed around his head.
00:04:01.060 And then around his neck, it describes him as an enemy of the movement, an enemy, you know,
00:04:07.260 basically a counter-revolutionary.
00:04:08.920 It's kind of an easy way to describe it in Chinese.
00:04:12.180 So that's his crime.
00:04:13.260 He's a counter-revolutionary, basically calling him a right-wing extremist for being normal.
00:04:19.200 And then his name is under that.
00:04:22.880 And so his daughter, who is watching, then gets sentenced to prison.
00:04:25.980 And she later becomes the protagonist of the book and goes on to become this engineer.
00:04:30.700 But it's really incredible.
00:04:32.880 Guys, can we actually play that as a saw?
00:04:34.700 Can we play that again?
00:04:35.760 Because that was just, I've never seen it before.
00:04:37.920 And it's so important that everyone needs to see what happens when the unhumans take power.
00:04:43.820 And it's so important.
00:05:13.820 He was their teacher.
00:05:28.800 That's what he's saying to them.
00:05:29.960 He's saying, I was your teacher.
00:05:31.700 You were my students.
00:05:33.160 And now this is how you treat me.
00:05:35.500 And what they're responding,
00:05:37.400 is that they are saying
00:05:40.880 the revolution is without sin.
00:05:45.300 The revolution is blemishless.
00:05:48.060 The revolution is perfect.
00:05:51.280 And they're just saying it over and over
00:05:54.760 as they beat the man to death in front of his own family.
00:05:59.660 The unhumans are coming.
00:06:02.560 And guess what, folks?
00:06:03.360 These revolutions are still taking place today,
00:06:06.960 but on a micro level every single day all around us.
00:06:11.700 Warfare has changed.
00:06:12.640 Hasn't gone away.
00:06:13.540 We'll be right back.
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00:07:48.160 We've got Kenny Cody on here today from humanevents.com.
00:07:52.160 He is a columnist there, a great columnist.
00:07:54.380 President Trump shares his stuff out constantly.
00:07:56.520 I even shared out the last time he was on the show.
00:08:00.020 So, Kenny, congratulations on that, by the way,
00:08:03.020 and all your recent success.
00:08:04.600 Let's talk about what's going on with President Trump right now
00:08:07.220 because there's a flurry of news.
00:08:08.600 A lot of people aren't talking about it.
00:08:10.620 CNN has him up in, I think, every single battleground state.
00:08:14.960 And even the CNN poll, they've got him at sort of neck and neck
00:08:18.720 with Biden in Pennsylvania was the only state that I saw
00:08:21.480 that they were tight with.
00:08:22.400 And at the same time, the government of the state of New York
00:08:27.100 is now going after his very golf courses.
00:08:30.940 Kenny, what's going on here?
00:08:32.980 Because I remember everyone in the primary telling me
00:08:35.620 that when the government started coming for Trump,
00:08:38.520 that that would make people support Trump less.
00:08:41.640 Yes, that's the opposite of what's going on.
00:08:44.240 Well, it's had the opposite effect the entire time.
00:08:46.580 I mean, when you look at the polling,
00:08:47.940 you look at how people would vote if he was convicted,
00:08:50.300 all that kind of stuff, independent voters,
00:08:52.740 people see through the federal government's
00:08:54.620 and the state government's weaponization of their power
00:08:56.800 to go after a presidential candidate.
00:08:58.860 I think that now we're seeing them go after his actual assets.
00:09:02.880 They're going after his golf courses.
00:09:04.340 They're going after his actual wealth.
00:09:06.280 You're seeing a rebuke.
00:09:08.260 You're seeing voters and pundits, conservatives, politicians,
00:09:12.620 whatever, address that this is a biased pursuit.
00:09:15.680 And it's the only way that they can affect Donald Trump
00:09:18.200 when you look at how he's leading in swing states,
00:09:20.560 Wisconsin, Pennsylvania, Michigan,
00:09:22.100 the only way that they can try to hurt him
00:09:24.360 is to hurt his fundraising
00:09:25.380 and to hurt him the amount of monetary value
00:09:27.740 that his campaign can have.
00:09:29.600 And when you're looking at how he's doing in polling,
00:09:32.600 I mean, Biden has more money to spend.
00:09:35.020 He has more corporate donations.
00:09:36.540 He has more backers.
00:09:38.060 And just like he did in 2020,
00:09:40.800 and how Hillary Clinton had more funding
00:09:42.960 than Donald Trump did in 2016,
00:09:44.240 it didn't really matter.
00:09:44.920 But this grassroots movement and these people that support him
00:09:48.240 who are everyday Americans are not blinded
00:09:51.820 by the federal government, state government's weaponization
00:09:54.420 of their power against Donald Trump.
00:09:55.980 It's the only way they can go after him.
00:09:57.700 They have to try to go after his assets,
00:10:00.840 try to go after his golf courses, his properties,
00:10:03.200 and try to bankrupt him
00:10:04.540 because it's the only way now they see the polling
00:10:06.500 that they can see him losing.
00:10:08.320 And I still don't think,
00:10:09.660 even with them trying to take money away from President Trump,
00:10:12.740 that he has a chance against losing against Joe Biden.
00:10:14.540 Now, we can't get complacent,
00:10:16.120 but they see the path forward.
00:10:17.920 They see that he is the likely next president
00:10:19.780 of the United States,
00:10:20.600 and they are throwing out all last-ditch efforts
00:10:22.680 to go after this man by going after his own properties
00:10:25.460 and his own assets.
00:10:27.980 So I think that if we are able to coalesce,
00:10:30.820 if we're able to unite,
00:10:32.080 I think that anybody can see this,
00:10:33.820 but we have to look through the voters
00:10:35.060 to try to donate, to try to fundraise,
00:10:38.080 and to try to get a grassroots move going
00:10:39.980 because the legal procedures
00:10:41.440 are going to try to minimize Trump's fundraising
00:10:44.740 and minimize his monetary value.
00:10:47.860 And so that being the case,
00:10:51.480 do you think then that this type of activity
00:10:55.860 by the government,
00:10:56.900 this in case the government of the state of New York,
00:10:59.240 to seize his golf course,
00:11:02.760 the memes, by the way,
00:11:03.600 yesterday were going wild on this,
00:11:05.040 people saying they're going to name it
00:11:06.040 the George Floyd Memorial Golf Course.
00:11:08.800 I saw some people saying,
00:11:09.740 Producer Fahs was saying that,
00:11:11.560 you know, they're going to be putting up
00:11:12.820 migrant tent cities on there for the illegals.
00:11:17.180 There's something so visual
00:11:18.900 about the seizing of physical property
00:11:22.220 as opposed to, you know,
00:11:23.980 as opposed to like freezing,
00:11:25.240 you know, freezing bank records
00:11:27.180 or bank accounts or something like that,
00:11:29.040 that I really feel like
00:11:30.840 this is going to have a backlash.
00:11:32.460 Do you agree?
00:11:33.980 Yeah, I think so.
00:11:34.760 I mean, you're seeing these people
00:11:36.860 who address that,
00:11:38.560 okay, you know,
00:11:39.460 Trump is getting after,
00:11:41.980 he's going,
00:11:42.360 the people are going after him,
00:11:43.740 celebrities, the mainstream media.
00:11:45.880 But when you're getting
00:11:46.620 the judiciary courts involved,
00:11:48.060 when you're getting a state government
00:11:49.500 employee involved,
00:11:50.460 when you're getting the state departments,
00:11:52.140 the state governments,
00:11:53.260 the state judiciary going after him,
00:11:56.120 you're seeing an obvious bias
00:11:58.020 and they're only hurting themselves.
00:11:59.660 And I love that part about it, Jack,
00:12:01.180 is that we are getting through
00:12:02.560 to everyday people
00:12:03.760 that this is a biased movement,
00:12:05.460 that this is political weaponization.
00:12:07.380 This is nothing but
00:12:08.400 the last ditch effort
00:12:09.760 to prevent Donald Trump
00:12:10.920 from being the next president.
00:12:12.300 And we have to be unabashed
00:12:13.360 in calling that out.
00:12:14.340 We can't just stand by
00:12:15.380 and say he's going to get by with it.
00:12:17.360 You know,
00:12:17.580 he's going to raise money.
00:12:18.740 He has nothing to worry about.
00:12:20.340 He has, you know,
00:12:21.380 billions of dollars,
00:12:22.340 millions of dollars.
00:12:23.200 It's nothing to him.
00:12:24.100 We can't get complacent.
00:12:25.500 We have to make sure
00:12:26.460 that this is in the spotlight.
00:12:27.740 We have to ensure
00:12:28.760 that the everyday American knows
00:12:30.700 that this man
00:12:31.480 has gone through more
00:12:32.760 than any presidential candidate
00:12:34.600 in American history,
00:12:35.580 any politician
00:12:36.320 in American history.
00:12:37.640 And we can't let this
00:12:38.680 just be a throw to the side.
00:12:40.480 He's going to get through it
00:12:41.220 and it's not going to matter.
00:12:42.140 We have to make this
00:12:43.000 one of the core issues
00:12:44.200 because this man
00:12:45.160 is willing to give up
00:12:46.000 his own golf courses,
00:12:47.200 his own properties,
00:12:48.380 his own net worth
00:12:49.840 in order to serve this country
00:12:51.260 and to bring this country back.
00:12:52.700 So anybody who is willing to say,
00:12:54.340 you know,
00:12:54.800 that Donald Trump
00:12:55.440 is doing this
00:12:56.220 for his own self-worth
00:12:57.580 or his own monetary value.
00:12:59.300 I hope that this
00:12:59.960 is proving them incorrect
00:13:01.120 because he is risking
00:13:02.720 everything in his life,
00:13:05.020 his family's financial well-being,
00:13:07.140 his own financials well-being.
00:13:08.480 He is putting everything
00:13:09.740 on the line
00:13:10.420 to save this country.
00:13:11.860 And I think that
00:13:12.960 the American people
00:13:13.860 can see that.
00:13:14.740 The independents
00:13:15.380 and swing states
00:13:16.040 can see that.
00:13:16.960 Everybody who is paying
00:13:18.100 attention to this
00:13:19.280 can see that.
00:13:20.400 And that's why
00:13:20.840 you're seeing him up in polling.
00:13:22.360 That's why you're seeing
00:13:22.920 his fundraising numbers go up.
00:13:24.480 And that's why
00:13:25.160 he's going to come out
00:13:26.040 of this successful
00:13:26.780 because the America first base
00:13:28.220 and even the modern
00:13:29.260 swing voter can see
00:13:30.840 that this is nothing
00:13:31.560 but a bias attack
00:13:32.380 towards the next president
00:13:33.560 if the same path continues.
00:13:35.480 Again, we can't get complacent,
00:13:37.040 but we have to address
00:13:37.860 that this weaponization
00:13:39.440 has made this more obvious
00:13:40.660 to me that Donald Trump
00:13:41.760 is the right man
00:13:42.660 to lead this country
00:13:43.620 and to lead this movement
00:13:44.440 back from the current
00:13:45.800 Biden administration,
00:13:46.700 a fascist regime
00:13:47.720 that does nothing
00:13:48.440 but go after
00:13:49.020 their political opponents
00:13:50.120 than any time
00:13:50.860 in American history.
00:13:51.860 We have to make this
00:13:52.760 the most consequential
00:13:53.860 presidency
00:13:54.480 and the most consequential
00:13:55.940 presidential campaign
00:13:56.800 in American history.
00:13:58.060 And if we keep on
00:13:58.540 the same trajectory
00:13:59.360 and it's this out
00:14:00.700 in the open
00:14:01.040 of what they're trying
00:14:01.580 to do to this man,
00:14:02.220 I think we're going
00:14:02.660 to achieve that.
00:14:04.440 I'm looking at IA polls
00:14:05.820 right now.
00:14:06.560 We've got Trump
00:14:07.580 is up in the markets.
00:14:10.120 Trump is up.
00:14:11.000 I mean, this CNN,
00:14:12.040 SRS poll,
00:14:12.720 look, he's up six points
00:14:14.860 in the three-way race
00:14:16.680 or excuse me,
00:14:17.140 four-way race
00:14:17.860 in Michigan,
00:14:18.940 which consolidates
00:14:20.800 to eight points,
00:14:23.000 eight points
00:14:23.740 in a two-way race
00:14:24.620 in Michigan.
00:14:25.080 Now, we know we're
00:14:25.400 not going to get
00:14:25.880 a two-way race.
00:14:27.360 So RFK, Cornell West,
00:14:29.360 that's pulling a lot
00:14:30.580 of the vote out there.
00:14:31.360 Pennsylvania as well,
00:14:33.160 again, a state
00:14:34.240 that we're told
00:14:35.000 quote-unquote
00:14:35.480 flipped in 2020.
00:14:37.720 He's now at parity
00:14:38.980 in the two-and-two race,
00:14:40.580 head-to-head race,
00:14:41.640 or with RFK
00:14:43.100 on the ticket,
00:14:44.300 West on the ticket,
00:14:45.960 you're now seeing
00:14:47.020 Trump up two,
00:14:48.380 Biden at 38,
00:14:49.460 RFK at 16,
00:14:51.000 West at four.
00:14:52.640 Kenny, what do you view
00:14:53.780 the, I guess I would say
00:14:56.440 the effect of these
00:14:57.600 potential third-party candidates,
00:14:59.040 or let's just say
00:14:59.540 the third-party candidates,
00:15:00.660 by the way,
00:15:00.940 the Green Party
00:15:01.560 is potentially going to be
00:15:02.740 on the ballot as well
00:15:03.640 with all these extra choices.
00:15:05.300 Do you think that people
00:15:06.320 really are willing
00:15:07.500 to just drop Joe Biden?
00:15:09.160 He is a problem
00:15:09.900 on his left flank.
00:15:11.600 Yeah, I mean,
00:15:12.320 I think that there is
00:15:13.320 an obvious problem.
00:15:14.240 I mean, when you have
00:15:14.640 Cornell West going out there
00:15:15.920 and openly embracing
00:15:17.000 Hamas and see even
00:15:17.940 some of the far left
00:15:18.820 going to his side,
00:15:19.780 that shows the party's
00:15:21.020 disinterest in Joe Biden.
00:15:22.700 And I think that,
00:15:23.760 you know,
00:15:24.000 it depends on really
00:15:24.840 the poll,
00:15:25.300 depends on the state,
00:15:26.140 how Kennedy really affects
00:15:27.540 how much it takes away
00:15:29.040 from Trump,
00:15:29.460 how much it takes away
00:15:30.220 from Biden.
00:15:30.700 But people forget,
00:15:31.340 you know,
00:15:31.500 Kennedy was running
00:15:32.120 in the Democratic primary
00:15:33.000 against Biden.
00:15:33.980 He does have an
00:15:34.660 ancestry legacy name
00:15:36.260 that even people
00:15:37.160 who don't know
00:15:37.620 who he is
00:15:38.220 may still vote
00:15:38.800 for Kennedy over Biden
00:15:39.760 if they're tired
00:15:40.460 of this old man,
00:15:41.840 incompetent,
00:15:43.080 geriatric person
00:15:44.160 who is currently
00:15:44.740 holding the office.
00:15:45.640 They may just vote
00:15:46.220 for a Kennedy
00:15:46.720 because he's a Kennedy,
00:15:48.260 right?
00:15:48.560 I mean,
00:15:48.900 that's pretty obvious.
00:15:50.140 But I think people
00:15:51.280 like Cornell West,
00:15:52.280 Jill Stein,
00:15:53.080 I think is running
00:15:53.500 for the Green Party nomination.
00:15:54.900 We'll see if no labels
00:15:56.120 puts up a candidate,
00:15:57.140 whether that's going
00:15:57.620 to be Chris Christie
00:15:58.440 or somebody else,
00:15:59.200 how much is that's going
00:15:59.880 to affect Trump even more
00:16:01.080 or Biden for that matter.
00:16:03.000 But the way
00:16:03.620 the current trajectories are,
00:16:04.760 it seems like RFK
00:16:05.980 kind of splits down
00:16:07.360 the middle of Trump
00:16:08.440 and Biden's support.
00:16:09.200 I think used to
00:16:09.960 in old polling,
00:16:11.180 he took a little bit more
00:16:12.020 from Trump
00:16:12.540 than he did for Biden.
00:16:13.420 But as it kind of goes
00:16:14.600 towards the general election,
00:16:16.320 it seems like polling
00:16:17.280 is a little bit more favorable
00:16:18.540 towards when RFK runs.
00:16:20.580 Trump is actually benefiting too.
00:16:22.220 I forget if it was Maine
00:16:23.760 or Colorado,
00:16:25.280 one of those states
00:16:26.140 that's even deep blue.
00:16:27.780 RFK was actually helping
00:16:28.860 Trump in polling
00:16:29.600 because they had a Kennedy
00:16:30.660 on the ballot.
00:16:31.420 So to me,
00:16:32.280 the more the merrier
00:16:33.000 unless it's somebody,
00:16:34.160 you know,
00:16:34.380 some putting a former Republican
00:16:35.800 in the Libertarian Party spot
00:16:37.180 or a constitutional party spot,
00:16:38.500 something like that
00:16:39.260 or putting a Republican
00:16:40.320 in an old label spot,
00:16:41.420 that'd be a lot different.
00:16:42.280 But you have Larry Hogan
00:16:43.040 running in Maryland
00:16:43.840 and that was one of my main concerns
00:16:46.060 of a Republican running
00:16:47.020 and taking votes away from Trump.
00:16:48.760 But I think that it's kind of
00:16:50.240 going to be evenly split
00:16:51.080 and even in these sort of
00:16:52.060 deep blue states
00:16:53.080 and even kind of more favorable
00:16:55.060 towards lean blue swing states
00:16:57.200 like Wisconsin or Michigan.
00:16:59.000 I think that Trump's
00:16:59.740 benefited by RFK.
00:17:01.480 Hopefully that that same trend continues
00:17:03.020 that may swim back
00:17:03.840 in the other direction
00:17:04.440 like it was a few months ago
00:17:05.640 when RFK was taking more votes
00:17:07.260 away from Trump
00:17:07.800 than he did for Biden.
00:17:08.720 But the way it currently is,
00:17:09.700 it looks like a lot of Democrats
00:17:10.540 are disinterested
00:17:11.420 in showing interest
00:17:12.300 in Jill Stein,
00:17:13.520 in Cornel West and in RFK.
00:17:15.180 And hopefully that will benefit
00:17:16.460 Trump heading towards November.
00:17:19.420 And so this is huge
00:17:21.360 because you're looking
00:17:22.920 at all of these things
00:17:23.980 and we've got a break
00:17:24.880 coming up in about a minute here.
00:17:26.920 And I want to get into
00:17:28.400 after that,
00:17:29.180 the truth social news,
00:17:30.520 massive news
00:17:31.260 out there for Trump
00:17:32.540 regarding this deal,
00:17:34.440 which has finally gone through
00:17:35.260 the SPAC merger,
00:17:36.340 which was approved.
00:17:38.180 We're looking at a situation
00:17:39.620 where there's a lot of headwinds
00:17:41.180 for Trump right now.
00:17:42.480 It looks like Biden,
00:17:43.780 pun intended,
00:17:44.760 you know,
00:17:45.040 could blow him over with a leaf.
00:17:46.560 That's clearly what's going on.
00:17:48.080 But at the same time,
00:17:49.660 I don't sit pretty
00:17:51.820 when things are going well.
00:17:53.420 That's when I get suspicious.
00:17:55.080 That's when I get worried
00:17:56.160 about what could come up ahead.
00:17:57.500 So Kenny Cody,
00:17:58.200 when we go through this
00:17:59.500 after the break,
00:18:00.440 I want you to break down for us
00:18:01.660 what you think
00:18:02.000 the biggest challenges are
00:18:03.620 for Trump
00:18:04.400 and his agenda
00:18:05.640 to return to office right now
00:18:08.140 because these guys out there
00:18:09.440 on the left,
00:18:10.780 the guys who swung
00:18:12.000 quote unquote
00:18:12.720 the 2020 election
00:18:14.200 have not gone away
00:18:15.520 and they're going to be there
00:18:16.740 in 2024 as well.
00:18:18.080 Jack Posobiec,
00:18:18.880 Kenny Cody,
00:18:19.460 coming back,
00:18:19.920 Human Events Daily
00:18:20.600 after the break.
00:18:24.260 Talk about influencers.
00:18:25.720 These are influencers
00:18:26.660 and they're friends of mine.
00:18:29.160 Jack Posobiec.
00:18:31.480 Where's Jack?
00:18:32.420 Jack.
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00:19:47.080 Kenny,
00:19:47.840 so we're on, folks,
00:19:48.900 now with Kenny Cody,
00:19:50.200 columnist for humanevents.com.
00:19:51.700 And I wanted to posit to everyone,
00:19:53.780 so we're working on this subject now,
00:19:55.120 this concept for the,
00:19:57.880 you know,
00:19:58.100 for our upcoming book,
00:19:59.300 The Unhumans,
00:20:00.780 and it's this concept
00:20:02.600 of micro-revolutions
00:20:03.800 and this idea
00:20:04.980 that everybody knows
00:20:05.880 the communist revolution
00:20:06.980 of, you know,
00:20:08.360 1917 in Russia
00:20:09.840 was like a civil war.
00:20:11.300 In the 1930s in Spain,
00:20:12.860 it was a civil war.
00:20:13.900 But then you flash forward
00:20:15.280 to China in the 1960s,
00:20:17.720 1967,
00:20:18.540 the cultural revolution
00:20:19.260 kicks off.
00:20:20.320 It becomes more of a movement,
00:20:23.680 a political movement
00:20:24.720 style revolution
00:20:25.660 where it's not being waged
00:20:27.420 in the old sort of
00:20:28.720 second generation warfare setting.
00:20:32.440 It's being waged more in schools
00:20:34.280 and in public settings
00:20:36.260 and in, you know,
00:20:37.760 churches or universities,
00:20:40.000 institutions, etc.
00:20:41.340 I would actually say
00:20:43.000 that what we've been experiencing,
00:20:45.200 what Donald Trump
00:20:45.720 is experiencing right now
00:20:46.840 is a form of a micro-revolution
00:20:50.040 and, in fact,
00:20:51.280 daily micro-revolutions
00:20:53.240 that are being conducted
00:20:55.360 against him,
00:20:56.140 waged against him
00:20:57.000 by his enemies,
00:20:57.920 by his opponents.
00:20:59.220 And this is a tactic
00:21:00.460 that they use over and over,
00:21:02.120 not just against him,
00:21:04.060 but also against anyone
00:21:06.200 who stands against them,
00:21:07.480 Trump really just most,
00:21:09.200 most predominantly.
00:21:12.180 And you can see him fight back.
00:21:14.380 And I think that it's really,
00:21:16.480 you know, to your point,
00:21:17.480 it's the perception battle
00:21:20.460 that everyone is in
00:21:21.600 that they can see
00:21:22.680 that Trump is a guy
00:21:24.880 who's running for president,
00:21:26.000 who did a pretty good job
00:21:27.060 as president,
00:21:27.700 certainly far better
00:21:28.600 than Joe Biden is right now.
00:21:30.700 That's why the backlash
00:21:31.840 is happening.
00:21:32.660 But let me ask you this,
00:21:33.820 and we talked about it beforehand,
00:21:35.680 true social news out there,
00:21:37.360 break that down for us,
00:21:38.320 and then let's get into
00:21:39.340 these different challenges
00:21:41.280 that he is going to face
00:21:42.980 between now and November.
00:21:44.500 Yeah, so Trump's investment
00:21:46.060 is going to pay off
00:21:46.900 into true social.
00:21:47.700 I know a lot of people
00:21:48.100 question him leaving Twitter,
00:21:49.380 but now it's going to net him,
00:21:50.940 I think, around $2.6 billion
00:21:52.560 now that true social
00:21:53.820 is a publicly traded
00:21:54.700 social media company.
00:21:56.340 And that's going to really help him
00:21:57.700 in terms of finding
00:21:58.380 his own legal battles.
00:21:59.380 It's going to help him
00:22:00.000 in terms of fundraising
00:22:01.160 for his own political future.
00:22:02.420 It's going to help him invest.
00:22:03.660 It's not going to allow him
00:22:04.760 to be in the pockets
00:22:06.020 of corporate donors going forward.
00:22:08.140 I mean, it's literally
00:22:08.960 going to increase his net worth
00:22:10.120 by a billion dollars.
00:22:11.820 I think New York Times
00:22:12.960 even reported on it
00:22:13.780 about a couple of hours ago
00:22:15.280 how this is an irrefutable win
00:22:17.860 for Donald Trump.
00:22:18.620 This is an irrefutable win
00:22:19.940 in terms of money,
00:22:20.820 monetary value,
00:22:21.360 because we all know
00:22:22.000 politics is funneled by money.
00:22:24.020 Now, whether that's
00:22:24.460 your own money,
00:22:25.020 that's why Donald Trump
00:22:25.720 can be his own man.
00:22:27.180 That's a huge reason.
00:22:28.460 I think that it's a really
00:22:30.440 a huge benefit
00:22:31.640 heading towards November.
00:22:32.700 It's going to allow him,
00:22:33.840 again, not to be
00:22:34.340 in the pockets of donors.
00:22:35.680 They're not going to be able
00:22:36.180 to come in and pitch him VPs.
00:22:37.820 They're not going to be able
00:22:38.180 to come pitch him
00:22:39.500 cabinet positions or anything
00:22:41.120 because they're going
00:22:41.580 to donate to him.
00:22:42.760 He's going to be able
00:22:43.340 to do a lot more
00:22:44.000 of what he actually wants to do
00:22:45.480 like he was in 2016.
00:22:47.380 He was brand new to politics,
00:22:48.460 he was brand new to Washington, D.C.
00:22:50.160 And he's not going to be able
00:22:51.340 to have to go to these fundraisers,
00:22:52.880 go meet with these corporations,
00:22:54.280 go meet with these people
00:22:54.860 that he has to meet with,
00:22:56.380 in quotes,
00:22:57.240 CEOs of companies
00:22:58.220 and things like that.
00:22:59.200 And also, again,
00:23:00.120 allows him to fight
00:23:00.840 the legal battles
00:23:01.460 and the federal representation
00:23:02.520 and state representation
00:23:03.300 of judiciaries
00:23:04.960 and judges
00:23:06.080 to work against him
00:23:06.900 like what's happening
00:23:07.480 in New York.
00:23:08.120 It's going to allow him
00:23:08.840 to kind of translate
00:23:11.020 the fights in legal battle
00:23:12.500 over to his actual
00:23:13.460 political battles
00:23:14.200 that he's going to be facing
00:23:15.000 with Joe Biden
00:23:16.020 and the deep state
00:23:16.580 heading towards November.
00:23:17.520 So this is one of the biggest
00:23:18.820 campaign developments
00:23:19.860 I think there has been
00:23:21.180 in the 2024 season.
00:23:22.920 I think it's been actually
00:23:23.600 underreported on today.
00:23:25.100 It's absolutely humongous
00:23:26.960 in this fight
00:23:28.100 against the federal government
00:23:30.300 weaponization,
00:23:31.080 state government weaponization,
00:23:32.220 and ultimately
00:23:32.720 him not having to be
00:23:34.380 in the pockets
00:23:34.900 of corporate donors.
00:23:35.840 It's absolutely humongous
00:23:36.740 for his campaign.
00:23:38.660 I want to tell everyone
00:23:40.340 that one of the things
00:23:43.000 that we've been talking about
00:23:44.380 for a long time
00:23:45.940 as a potential challenge
00:23:48.160 that could come up
00:23:48.900 between now
00:23:49.720 and the elections
00:23:51.740 that we do have breaking news
00:23:53.180 and just bring this on you,
00:23:56.080 Cody,
00:23:56.400 but there are,
00:23:58.460 there appears to be
00:24:00.600 some sort of mass shooting
00:24:02.160 terror attack going on
00:24:03.500 in Moscow right now
00:24:05.280 as we speak.
00:24:06.720 This is breaking news.
00:24:07.920 This is currently happening.
00:24:09.520 The Krokus City Hall,
00:24:12.120 multiple people shot and killed.
00:24:15.240 It's obviously a civilian event
00:24:17.460 happening right in the Russian capital.
00:24:21.700 People came in with,
00:24:23.200 armed with long guns.
00:24:24.680 I'm just looking at the videos
00:24:25.620 right now a little bit,
00:24:26.480 trying to review some of this
00:24:27.460 in real time.
00:24:30.080 Multiple people killed.
00:24:34.080 U.S. Embassy has just put out
00:24:36.000 a statement.
00:24:37.120 The embassy is monitoring reports
00:24:38.400 that extremists have imminent plans
00:24:40.980 to target large gatherings in Moscow
00:24:44.160 to include concerts
00:24:45.260 and U.S. citizens should be advised.
00:24:47.560 Actually, this, I guess,
00:24:48.640 came out earlier.
00:24:50.080 Be advised to avoid large gatherings
00:24:52.300 over the next 48 hours.
00:24:53.620 I'm just seeing that on Twitter.
00:24:54.640 I'm not sure exactly
00:24:55.900 when that came out.
00:24:56.920 Obviously, fog of war
00:24:58.000 on all of this stuff.
00:24:59.920 Some people are claiming
00:25:00.900 that it's one group.
00:25:01.820 Some people are claiming
00:25:02.440 that it's another group.
00:25:03.260 We don't know for sure yet
00:25:04.380 if this was directly involved
00:25:07.020 in Ukraine.
00:25:07.880 But, Kenny, let's go to that.
00:25:09.820 This idea that there's been
00:25:11.220 so much destabilization
00:25:13.020 in the world.
00:25:14.480 There's been so much
00:25:15.520 of this conflict.
00:25:17.400 Does this play any way
00:25:19.440 into your political analysis?
00:25:21.420 Let's say the Russia-Ukraine situation.
00:25:23.420 You know, does kick off
00:25:26.500 and actually become
00:25:27.240 10 times worse.
00:25:28.600 Not only, you know,
00:25:29.540 not saying that this is part of that,
00:25:31.100 but let's say that it does.
00:25:32.720 Do you think that has a bearing
00:25:33.720 on the election?
00:25:35.120 I think it might
00:25:36.020 because, I mean,
00:25:36.540 you saw all the destabilization
00:25:38.620 of the Joe Biden administration
00:25:39.780 so far.
00:25:40.520 You've seen the destabilization
00:25:41.500 in the Middle East.
00:25:42.220 You've seen it in Israel
00:25:44.100 and Palestine going to war.
00:25:45.980 You're seeing it happen
00:25:46.860 in Russia and Ukraine.
00:25:48.900 You know, I think,
00:25:49.820 I forgot if it was
00:25:50.400 the prime minister to,
00:25:51.700 if it was the prime minister
00:25:52.400 of Poland,
00:25:53.000 if it was an ambassador of Poland,
00:25:54.000 I actually forget.
00:25:55.060 But he believed
00:25:56.420 that if Donald Trump
00:25:57.460 was currently president
00:25:58.160 of the Ukrainian
00:25:58.740 and Russian war
00:25:59.700 would all have escalated
00:26:00.460 the way it did.
00:26:01.120 And he does believe
00:26:01.860 if Donald Trump
00:26:02.380 was the president right now,
00:26:03.340 he would have the Ukrainian
00:26:04.420 and Russian conflict
00:26:05.800 solved within 48 hours.
00:26:07.240 And I think that you're seeing
00:26:08.580 this needful destabilization
00:26:09.800 because there is
00:26:10.340 a power struggle overseas
00:26:11.500 because Donald Trump
00:26:12.660 had an iron fist.
00:26:14.280 He was an unpredictable
00:26:15.300 president of the United States
00:26:16.580 when it came to foreign policy.
00:26:18.260 He was not going to get run over.
00:26:20.180 He was not going to go
00:26:20.720 to war all the time,
00:26:21.800 but you never wanted
00:26:22.860 to mess with him
00:26:23.980 because you didn't know
00:26:25.360 what he was going to do.
00:26:26.360 And that's the kind
00:26:26.700 of foreign policy
00:26:27.340 that we need.
00:26:28.100 We need an anti-war approach
00:26:29.760 that is not going
00:26:30.900 to necessarily be pacifist.
00:26:32.600 It's not necessarily
00:26:33.180 going to be isolationist,
00:26:34.620 but it's going to create
00:26:35.320 power across the world
00:26:37.980 that the United States
00:26:38.760 is the main superpower.
00:26:40.560 Our president
00:26:40.960 does need to be feared.
00:26:42.280 He needs to be feared
00:26:43.300 across the globe
00:26:44.100 because you don't want
00:26:44.980 to mess with any
00:26:45.660 of the U.S. interest overseas
00:26:47.120 or on our homeland
00:26:49.200 in domestic ways.
00:26:50.540 So when you see
00:26:52.000 this destabilization
00:26:53.040 in Russia,
00:26:53.640 you see it in Iran,
00:26:54.760 you see it in the Middle East,
00:26:55.920 you see it in Israel
00:26:56.780 and Palestine,
00:26:57.460 you see all of this conflict
00:26:58.740 going on over the world.
00:26:59.720 You see it in China
00:27:00.280 and Taiwan,
00:27:01.220 and now you're seeing it
00:27:01.940 with the mass shooting
00:27:02.780 in Moscow today.
00:27:04.180 You see that
00:27:05.180 because there is
00:27:06.060 no world leader.
00:27:07.040 Not only does Donald Trump
00:27:08.500 need to be the president
00:27:10.200 of the United States,
00:27:10.880 he needs to be the leader
00:27:11.780 of the free world.
00:27:13.260 And being the leader
00:27:14.020 of the free world
00:27:14.500 has a lot of responsibility.
00:27:15.560 It has to do with stabilizing
00:27:17.420 the way that the countries
00:27:18.540 interact with one another.
00:27:19.760 And when you see
00:27:21.080 all these conflicts,
00:27:22.140 you see the disastrous
00:27:23.300 Afghanistan withdrawal
00:27:24.400 of U.S. troops.
00:27:25.580 You see embassies
00:27:26.240 getting attacked overseas.
00:27:27.140 You see us losing soldiers
00:27:29.720 in countries like Jordan.
00:27:31.240 You're seeing the destabilization
00:27:32.420 in Israel and Palestine
00:27:33.860 and Russia and Ukraine.
00:27:35.060 When you're seeing this happen,
00:27:36.600 that does reflect
00:27:37.600 because people want to feel safe.
00:27:39.300 If your wallet feels safe,
00:27:40.920 your fiscal well-being feels safe,
00:27:42.860 and you feel safe
00:27:43.600 living in your country
00:27:44.520 and on the planet,
00:27:45.560 then any destabilization
00:27:47.900 of that is going
00:27:48.720 to make you question
00:27:49.400 who's in the current regime,
00:27:50.500 and the current regime
00:27:51.140 is Joe Biden.
00:27:52.180 So if people feel-
00:27:53.160 And in addition,
00:27:53.980 let me just jump in on that.
00:27:57.320 To your point,
00:27:58.240 it's not just unsafety,
00:28:00.000 safety concerns abroad,
00:28:01.320 but it's the same
00:28:02.700 with safety concerns
00:28:03.540 for quality of life at home
00:28:05.080 because of the rise of crime.
00:28:06.520 We've actually seen
00:28:07.060 these things both happening
00:28:08.020 at the same time.
00:28:08.940 Please continue.
00:28:10.420 Yeah, I mean,
00:28:11.160 you're seeing domestic issues
00:28:12.920 happen too.
00:28:13.540 When you're seeing
00:28:14.060 the open border,
00:28:14.980 you're seeing illegals
00:28:15.660 coming to the country,
00:28:16.440 you're seeing fentanyl overdoses
00:28:18.080 being the leading cause
00:28:19.700 of people for deaths
00:28:21.860 in 18 to 25-year-olds.
00:28:23.920 You're seeing that happen
00:28:24.720 in our own country,
00:28:25.520 and you're seeing
00:28:26.300 our own country people
00:28:27.980 trying to stay up and say,
00:28:29.060 hey, we're going to support
00:28:29.880 Hamas,
00:28:30.220 we're going to support Palestine.
00:28:31.220 It's not because necessarily
00:28:32.920 that these people
00:28:34.180 actually had these
00:28:35.040 sort of ideologies inside,
00:28:36.880 but you're seeing
00:28:37.360 a destabilization affect
00:28:38.720 not only well-being,
00:28:40.080 but ideology.
00:28:40.980 You're seeing people
00:28:41.840 go to the extreme
00:28:42.840 when it comes to
00:28:43.820 their viewpoints
00:28:44.780 on foreign policy,
00:28:45.840 on domestic policy,
00:28:47.420 on world issues,
00:28:48.720 or whatever else.
00:28:49.860 I mean, you're seeing,
00:28:51.200 like you said,
00:28:52.400 you're seeing destabilization
00:28:53.720 in domestic affairs,
00:28:54.860 you're seeing it
00:28:55.340 in foreign affairs,
00:28:56.440 and that comes from
00:28:57.500 a destabilization
00:28:58.660 in the White House.
00:28:59.720 Again, the president
00:29:01.000 is the leader
00:29:01.580 of the free world.
00:29:02.540 To me, he or she
00:29:04.500 is not just the president
00:29:05.400 of the United States.
00:29:06.620 They are the president
00:29:07.600 of the world
00:29:09.520 and the leader
00:29:11.040 of the free world.
00:29:11.940 That's why that phrase
00:29:12.580 has always been used.
00:29:13.660 If the United States
00:29:14.320 feels safe,
00:29:15.040 and the United States
00:29:15.580 is safe at home,
00:29:16.340 and they have a role
00:29:17.480 across the globe
00:29:18.640 and globally,
00:29:20.000 then people are going
00:29:20.920 to feel more safe
00:29:21.960 economically.
00:29:22.680 They're going to feel
00:29:23.280 more safe at home.
00:29:24.500 They're going to feel
00:29:24.920 more safe to go out
00:29:25.740 and walk on the street
00:29:26.780 and go and walk
00:29:27.700 with their dog.
00:29:28.420 It affects every facet
00:29:30.140 of life if you have
00:29:30.900 not only a brave president,
00:29:32.660 not only a safe president,
00:29:33.820 but a strong president.
00:29:35.100 That's exactly
00:29:35.660 what President Trump was.
00:29:37.120 There's a reason
00:29:37.660 this is the first rematch
00:29:38.900 in American history
00:29:39.700 between two presidents.
00:29:40.940 You can compare
00:29:41.420 and contrast in four years,
00:29:43.320 who did you feel
00:29:43.960 more safe under?
00:29:45.080 Donald Trump
00:29:45.800 or Joe Biden?
00:29:46.620 And that doesn't just go
00:29:47.860 for United States citizens.
00:29:49.080 That goes for those
00:29:49.760 that are overseas.
00:29:50.860 Did you feel safer
00:29:51.600 when Donald Trump
00:29:52.320 was president of the United States
00:29:53.420 or when Joe Biden
00:29:54.320 was president of the United States?
00:29:55.400 That is the most obvious answer
00:29:57.000 in the history
00:29:57.600 of American politics
00:29:58.520 between two
00:29:59.380 four-term presidencies.
00:30:01.240 And when you look
00:30:01.920 and compare,
00:30:02.700 compare and contrast
00:30:03.620 at a simple scale,
00:30:05.080 who weighs more
00:30:05.980 when it comes
00:30:07.040 to actual accomplishments,
00:30:08.560 when it comes
00:30:09.100 to safety nets,
00:30:10.120 it's always going
00:30:11.040 to be Donald Trump
00:30:11.780 when you compare
00:30:12.440 his successes
00:30:13.360 and his stabilization
00:30:14.640 during his presidency
00:30:15.860 in comparison
00:30:16.460 to Joe Biden.
00:30:17.840 And if we had Donald Trump
00:30:18.900 as president again,
00:30:19.960 that's going to mean
00:30:20.980 that we're going
00:30:21.560 to lead up
00:30:22.220 and we're going
00:30:22.780 to be stabilized
00:30:23.320 where can people
00:30:25.900 follow you?
00:30:27.460 At Katie,
00:30:28.260 Cody TN on X
00:30:29.820 and you can find me
00:30:30.540 Kenny Cody McCrack
00:30:31.920 from our archives.
00:30:33.660 Appreciate you, Jack.
00:30:34.400 Thank you, brother,
00:30:34.900 and God bless.
00:30:36.060 Please read Kenny
00:30:36.780 at humanevents.com.
00:30:38.640 We're right back
00:30:39.320 with
00:30:39.960 Captain Patel,
00:30:42.360 Bradley Thayer
00:30:42.960 and Reaching Communist China,
00:30:46.120 the strategic group.
00:30:48.740 Hey, Jack,
00:30:49.640 where is Jack?
00:30:51.720 Where is Jack?
00:30:53.980 Where is he?
00:30:55.300 Jack, I want to see you.
00:30:58.940 Great job, Jack.
00:31:00.400 Thank you.
00:31:01.160 What a job you do.
00:31:02.580 You know,
00:31:02.820 we have an incredible thing.
00:31:03.960 We're always talking
00:31:04.540 about the fake news
00:31:05.560 and the bad,
00:31:06.280 but we have guys
00:31:07.300 and these are the guys
00:31:08.680 who'll be getting
00:31:09.240 Pulisic.
00:31:12.220 All right,
00:31:12.780 Jack Pacific back live.
00:31:14.060 We are still conducting
00:31:15.660 our ongoing monitoring
00:31:18.180 of the situation
00:31:18.940 in Moscow.
00:31:20.080 As I just said earlier,
00:31:21.500 as far as we know,
00:31:22.980 the area of the fire
00:31:25.080 in Kroka City Hall
00:31:26.120 can be up to 3,000 square meters.
00:31:29.280 This is just outside Moscow
00:31:31.460 and some of the areas
00:31:33.660 had events that were canceled
00:31:36.600 due to the incident outside.
00:31:38.960 We're told,
00:31:39.980 I'm just reading this
00:31:41.240 from Russian media reports,
00:31:42.420 so grain of salt
00:31:43.220 on everything,
00:31:44.100 fog of war,
00:31:44.700 all that,
00:31:45.600 that firefighters rescued
00:31:47.460 100 people from the basement
00:31:48.940 in the City Hall.
00:31:50.200 40 people were killed
00:31:51.700 and more than 100 were injured
00:31:52.980 as a result of the shooting.
00:31:54.320 No official confirmation yet.
00:31:58.280 Multiple five-armed people
00:32:00.240 were part of a group
00:32:01.380 that carried out the shooting.
00:32:02.580 Some kind of explosion
00:32:03.540 set the concert hall on fire.
00:32:07.200 There are claims
00:32:08.340 and videos now circulating
00:32:09.520 on Twitter X
00:32:10.600 that the building itself,
00:32:13.140 the building itself
00:32:14.560 is in danger of the roof collapsing
00:32:16.620 or has begun to collapse.
00:32:18.240 Don't know at this time
00:32:19.560 how many people are inside.
00:32:21.480 And again,
00:32:22.900 I will continue to monitor this
00:32:24.600 as the situation unfolds
00:32:27.140 here in real time.
00:32:29.860 But,
00:32:30.900 duty calls
00:32:32.680 and as we are living
00:32:33.760 in a time of political instability
00:32:35.480 both in Eurasia,
00:32:37.380 we are also looking at instability
00:32:38.800 in North America
00:32:39.920 as well as in East Asia.
00:32:43.020 Oh, just got a report
00:32:44.100 that Russian special forces
00:32:46.200 appear to be storming
00:32:47.780 the concert venue.
00:32:49.060 So we'll see how that goes.
00:32:50.140 In East Asia,
00:32:52.480 we are also looking
00:32:53.300 at destabilization
00:32:54.160 and our next two guests,
00:32:55.680 Dr. Bradley Thayer
00:32:56.560 and retired U.S. Navy Captain
00:32:58.760 Jim Fanel
00:32:59.620 have written a new book,
00:33:00.840 got it right here,
00:33:01.820 Embracing Communist China,
00:33:03.680 America's Greatest Strategic Failure.
00:33:06.720 Everyone needs to read this book
00:33:08.200 to understand the truth
00:33:09.420 about the U.S.'s relationship
00:33:10.760 with the Chinese Communist Party
00:33:13.020 and how we've mismanaged
00:33:14.880 this relationship
00:33:15.880 over the years.
00:33:17.780 Dr. Thayer,
00:33:18.420 Captain Fanel,
00:33:18.880 it is an honor to have you both on.
00:33:21.220 Well, thank you, Jack.
00:33:22.000 Thanks very much indeed
00:33:22.940 for the opportunity today.
00:33:25.140 Great to see you, Jack.
00:33:26.360 Great to be on.
00:33:28.300 For folks who don't know,
00:33:30.320 Captain Fanel and I
00:33:31.180 actually spent some time
00:33:32.600 serving together
00:33:33.720 when we were still
00:33:34.420 both in the Navy,
00:33:35.880 conducted a sort of
00:33:37.300 a joint visit mission
00:33:38.460 to South Korea,
00:33:39.620 trying to get the
00:33:40.300 South Koreans on board
00:33:41.780 with the counter-CCP operations
00:33:44.440 that were going on over there.
00:33:45.740 That's right.
00:33:47.980 It's been a few years ago,
00:33:49.300 but some of us
00:33:51.280 have been working this
00:33:52.020 for quite a while.
00:33:54.280 Amen.
00:33:55.100 So tell me more
00:33:56.440 about the thesis of the book.
00:33:57.840 And for my audience,
00:33:59.040 you know,
00:33:59.160 I think a lot of folks
00:34:00.040 have heard this,
00:34:01.300 you know,
00:34:01.800 in a general sense,
00:34:02.800 but maybe not quite
00:34:03.760 as detailed
00:34:04.760 as you have put it all together,
00:34:06.220 because it really was
00:34:08.180 this American merger
00:34:09.520 following Tiananmen Square,
00:34:12.500 following the fall
00:34:13.600 of Chairman Mao,
00:34:14.560 the beginning
00:34:14.920 with the foreign direct investment
00:34:16.100 in the 1970s,
00:34:17.260 then after Tiananmen Square,
00:34:18.440 bringing China
00:34:19.100 into the global system.
00:34:21.460 It's been this huge embrace
00:34:23.040 of the Chinese Communist Party,
00:34:24.680 hasn't it?
00:34:26.620 It has been, Jack.
00:34:28.220 And so the central question
00:34:30.300 of the book
00:34:30.720 is how did this happen?
00:34:31.960 How is it that China
00:34:33.440 could rise so rapidly
00:34:34.980 and 30 years go
00:34:36.180 from less than 1%
00:34:38.000 of world growth
00:34:38.640 domestic product
00:34:39.680 to about 19% in 2019?
00:34:42.520 That's a remarkable rise.
00:34:45.680 And so Jim and I
00:34:47.240 both were interested
00:34:48.380 in that issue.
00:34:49.900 And the book argues
00:34:51.240 there are two big causes
00:34:52.620 of how that happened.
00:34:53.780 First,
00:34:54.160 it was the strategy
00:34:55.140 of Deng Xiaoping,
00:34:56.200 a political warfare strategy
00:34:57.780 expertly forged
00:35:00.020 and executed
00:35:00.880 what was called
00:35:02.120 hide-and-bide
00:35:03.040 by the Chinese,
00:35:04.280 which was to minimize
00:35:05.800 the threat
00:35:06.480 while making Wall Street,
00:35:08.020 the Chamber of Commerce,
00:35:09.880 and U.S. politicians
00:35:11.060 partners with the CCP,
00:35:12.920 with the Chinese Communist Party.
00:35:14.820 But it takes two to tango.
00:35:16.440 And so it also took
00:35:17.620 U.S. business interests,
00:35:19.180 the Clinton administration,
00:35:21.140 U.S. Chamber of Commerce
00:35:22.600 to shift manufacturing,
00:35:24.140 U.S. manufacturing
00:35:25.120 to the People's Republic
00:35:26.600 of China,
00:35:27.220 and U.S. investors
00:35:28.280 to year after year invest,
00:35:31.420 giving rise to what we call
00:35:32.840 the engagement school,
00:35:34.380 right,
00:35:34.660 where the idea
00:35:35.320 of the American elites
00:35:36.460 was you needed
00:35:37.100 to engage with China
00:35:38.520 in order to change
00:35:41.080 its behavior,
00:35:42.160 in order to make it
00:35:43.040 a responsible stakeholder,
00:35:45.460 as was said
00:35:46.280 during the Bush administration.
00:35:48.500 And, of course,
00:35:49.320 being communists,
00:35:50.400 they didn't change anything.
00:35:51.640 They just got richer.
00:35:53.540 And our policies
00:35:55.100 added rocket fuel
00:35:56.840 really to their growth.
00:35:58.840 We're responsible
00:35:59.680 for the growth
00:36:00.760 of communist China.
00:36:02.080 We're responsible
00:36:02.740 for saving
00:36:03.560 the Chinese Communist Party.
00:36:06.040 And a big part
00:36:07.100 of how that happened
00:36:07.940 was what we call
00:36:08.540 threat deflation,
00:36:09.740 where year after year,
00:36:11.500 as China was getting stronger
00:36:13.320 militarily,
00:36:14.380 diplomatically,
00:36:15.300 technologically,
00:36:16.840 our intelligence community,
00:36:19.300 our military,
00:36:20.380 our politicians,
00:36:21.360 our national security
00:36:22.240 community broadly
00:36:23.280 always discounted it.
00:36:25.660 They always deflated
00:36:26.840 the threat
00:36:27.540 of China's rise.
00:36:29.580 So that's what the book
00:36:30.820 covers in a nutshell.
00:36:32.740 And, Kat Fennell,
00:36:36.600 one thing that we look at
00:36:38.500 in terms of this also
00:36:40.140 is how the U.S.,
00:36:41.520 and in many ways,
00:36:42.580 just went along with this
00:36:43.780 as China was rising and rising.
00:36:45.540 And so for the people
00:36:46.160 who warned about this,
00:36:48.320 they were summarily
00:36:49.560 either told to step aside
00:36:51.660 or to essentially be quiet.
00:36:53.040 Isn't that right?
00:36:55.200 Well, yeah,
00:36:56.540 it didn't come out
00:36:57.320 that directly,
00:36:58.020 but there was,
00:36:59.180 people were basically
00:37:00.340 directed to say that,
00:37:03.180 you know,
00:37:03.520 show me the exact proof
00:37:04.980 of this or that.
00:37:05.940 And so, you know,
00:37:06.680 after the 9-11 commission
00:37:08.160 and the WMD scandal
00:37:10.400 and all that,
00:37:11.500 there was,
00:37:12.380 you know,
00:37:12.700 when I arrived
00:37:13.300 at the Office
00:37:13.720 of Naval Intelligence
00:37:14.500 where we were working together,
00:37:16.460 I remember the line analysts,
00:37:18.980 you know,
00:37:19.220 afraid to say certain things
00:37:20.720 about the PRC
00:37:21.680 because there was this
00:37:23.180 kind of like,
00:37:24.140 well,
00:37:24.260 you can't say that
00:37:25.100 because you don't have
00:37:25.860 the order from,
00:37:27.360 at that time,
00:37:28.040 you know,
00:37:28.300 Jiang Zemin
00:37:28.780 or you didn't have
00:37:29.500 the order from later on
00:37:30.940 Hu Jintao.
00:37:31.580 You didn't have
00:37:32.080 something explicit,
00:37:33.820 which is not what
00:37:35.260 intelligence profession
00:37:36.520 is about.
00:37:37.240 The intelligence profession,
00:37:38.940 as you know,
00:37:40.140 is about taking
00:37:41.000 disparate pieces
00:37:41.740 of information
00:37:42.860 from various sources,
00:37:45.400 human intelligence,
00:37:47.080 technical intelligence,
00:37:48.720 and combining
00:37:49.580 all that together
00:37:50.420 and coming up
00:37:51.160 with a warning
00:37:52.260 about what's going
00:37:53.000 to happen
00:37:53.380 and then to not just
00:37:54.780 say the warning
00:37:55.520 but to make sure
00:37:56.220 that your bosses
00:37:57.360 understood it
00:37:58.320 and took corrective action.
00:38:00.220 And so to that extent,
00:38:01.460 the intelligence community
00:38:03.080 had, as Brad said,
00:38:05.580 deflated the threat
00:38:06.500 over the last 30 years.
00:38:08.300 And it wasn't really
00:38:09.240 until the Trump administration
00:38:11.160 came in that it was,
00:38:13.100 you know,
00:38:13.480 we had a president
00:38:14.160 that said it's okay
00:38:15.000 to say that.
00:38:15.940 And before that,
00:38:17.000 especially during
00:38:17.660 the Obama years,
00:38:18.560 it was explicitly,
00:38:20.560 you know,
00:38:21.340 this idea of
00:38:22.240 we're not going
00:38:22.940 to provoke China
00:38:23.760 so we don't want to
00:38:24.620 say certain things
00:38:25.980 out in public
00:38:26.620 about what they're doing.
00:38:28.160 But by the time
00:38:29.060 that Obama was leaving,
00:38:30.460 it became almost
00:38:31.400 empirically evident
00:38:33.220 of what they were doing.
00:38:34.520 For instance,
00:38:35.220 stealing Scarborough Shoal
00:38:36.620 from our ally,
00:38:38.780 the Philippines,
00:38:39.440 in 2012.
00:38:40.360 Or from 2013 to 2015,
00:38:43.320 building islands
00:38:44.240 in the South China Sea,
00:38:45.500 seven of them,
00:38:46.300 three of which
00:38:46.780 are the size
00:38:47.260 of Pearl Harbor,
00:38:48.300 and then watching
00:38:48.980 Xi come to Washington,
00:38:50.520 D.C.
00:38:50.860 and telling Obama,
00:38:52.260 oh,
00:38:52.360 I won't militarize them.
00:38:53.540 And they're now militarized.
00:38:55.220 And they were militarized
00:38:56.240 by 2015,
00:38:57.260 2016.
00:38:58.220 So I think
00:38:59.140 the reality is
00:39:00.080 is that we had,
00:39:01.540 you know,
00:39:02.100 Wall Street
00:39:02.680 providing money
00:39:04.280 to help build the PRC
00:39:05.760 and build these pictures
00:39:06.680 that you're seeing,
00:39:07.660 that folks are seeing
00:39:08.360 on the screen
00:39:08.980 of this big military.
00:39:10.520 We had the intelligence community,
00:39:12.800 we had the academic community
00:39:14.180 and our think tanks
00:39:15.160 and the State Department,
00:39:16.540 all going along
00:39:17.440 with this notion
00:39:18.140 that,
00:39:18.940 well,
00:39:19.120 we just need to get along
00:39:20.100 with them
00:39:20.420 and talk to them
00:39:21.060 and they'll become
00:39:21.580 more like us.
00:39:22.820 And now 30 years later,
00:39:24.100 what we're seeing
00:39:24.800 is that we've become
00:39:26.160 more like them
00:39:27.020 as we watch
00:39:28.180 what we did in COVID
00:39:29.120 and all these mandates
00:39:30.600 and restrictions.
00:39:31.540 And so,
00:39:32.080 who's influenced who more?
00:39:33.720 And I think it's pretty clear.
00:39:35.240 And right now,
00:39:36.000 the danger is
00:39:36.940 is that they've got the knife,
00:39:38.660 they've got the gun
00:39:39.500 pointed at our head
00:39:40.520 that we gave them
00:39:41.360 and they're willing to use it.
00:39:44.020 And that's the real concern
00:39:45.500 that we have right now
00:39:46.520 and why we wrote the book
00:39:47.860 is to help provide warning
00:39:49.200 and to awaken
00:39:50.100 the American people,
00:39:51.220 especially as we enter
00:39:52.000 this election season.
00:39:54.880 You know,
00:39:55.400 I could not agree more
00:39:56.180 with what you just said there,
00:39:57.260 this idea that
00:39:58.180 not only,
00:39:59.720 right,
00:40:00.040 not only did the U.S.
00:40:01.880 fuel the rise
00:40:02.960 of the Chinese Communist Party
00:40:04.220 and finance the rise
00:40:05.740 of the Chinese Communist Party.
00:40:06.940 We're coming up
00:40:07.240 on a break here,
00:40:08.260 gentlemen,
00:40:08.780 but in doing so,
00:40:11.460 and I saw this
00:40:12.060 when I worked in Shanghai
00:40:13.380 at the American Chamber
00:40:14.360 of Commerce,
00:40:14.960 that business leaders
00:40:15.840 and government leaders
00:40:16.780 would come by
00:40:17.640 and they would be engrossed
00:40:20.460 and in many ways
00:40:23.060 seduced by the power,
00:40:25.520 the total power,
00:40:26.460 the absolute power
00:40:27.380 the Chinese Communist Party
00:40:28.760 had over the municipal
00:40:30.260 planning areas
00:40:31.380 of their ability
00:40:32.440 to destroy businesses,
00:40:34.940 destroy houses,
00:40:35.740 to create their new
00:40:36.980 mega projects,
00:40:37.860 mega factories,
00:40:38.600 mega trains,
00:40:39.180 whatever it might be,
00:40:40.400 that they could
00:40:41.120 immediately embrace
00:40:42.380 progress
00:40:42.840 progress
00:40:44.020 and technological
00:40:45.060 control
00:40:45.780 and technocracy
00:40:46.900 and roughshod
00:40:48.500 over the rights
00:40:49.180 of anyone
00:40:49.600 who just happened
00:40:50.240 to be in the middle.
00:40:52.000 And so in doing this,
00:40:53.980 they brought that same
00:40:55.180 type of system
00:40:56.420 back with them
00:40:57.900 to the West
00:40:58.720 and the United States.
00:40:59.580 The book is
00:40:59.920 Embracing Communist China.
00:41:01.420 Be right back
00:41:02.040 with the authors,
00:41:03.220 Dr. Bradley Fair
00:41:03.880 and Captain Jim Finnell.
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00:41:40.920 all right back live that was some of the graphic footage that we're getting from inside this
00:41:58.500 concert hall in moscow right now like i said we're going to be continuing to monitor the situation
00:42:03.040 we're hearing that russian uh russian response forces are on their way in to try to get people
00:42:08.160 out try to eliminate whatever threats are currently in there this is clearly a bodoclon style attack
00:42:13.580 like 2015 in paris um to my eyes this is probably the worst russian terror attack that they've
00:42:21.200 experienced since the beslan school massacre all the way back in 2004 uh we're talking with captain
00:42:27.460 jim finnell and dr bryant thayer about the about embracing communist china and how the u.s elites
00:42:33.100 have embraced this new chinese technocratic model and i was wondering if you guys have in in your
00:42:39.860 dealings with you know americans that have conducted business or spent time in the chinese or you know in
00:42:45.360 the chinese sphere the people's republic uh was that was that similar to my experience as well where
00:42:50.400 you you saw people becoming more enamored with this china model and then you've heard people all the
00:42:57.920 way up to uh jamie diamond of jp morgan come out and say that we should seek to emulate the china model
00:43:04.500 here in the west
00:43:05.240 well we have uh encountered that and and uh we've with great regret uh and sadness we've seen
00:43:13.980 individuals business leaders captains of industry uh throughout the west um and politicians former
00:43:21.840 politicians marvel at the ability of the chinese communist party to control uh their population
00:43:28.860 and to promote a quote unquote efficiencies in their economy uh without any recognition of the fact
00:43:36.500 that this is a regime which is murderous tyrannical illegitimate absolutely illegitimate which has
00:43:43.040 oppressed uh the chinese people and a great civilization since it came to power in 1949 those people do not
00:43:50.600 talk about the muslim genocide in xinjiang and other provinces the crushing of tibet hong kong uh the
00:43:58.040 violation gross human rights abuses including of religious freedom throughout china and aggression
00:44:04.100 in the south china sea east china sea against india and very likely against uh uh taiwan so it's
00:44:10.820 incredibly odious and uh jim already mentioned the um the san francisco remember uh jack the november uh
00:44:19.080 meeting in san francisco between the 400 business elite and xi jinping uh and the appalling behavior
00:44:25.640 uh of gavin newsom american business and gavin newsom of of uh u.s politicians and and u.s business elites
00:44:34.040 uh so there does seem to be uh that admiration uh for a disgusting appalling and odious tyrannical regime
00:44:42.280 captain finnell let me ask you this then as we as we get to the last couple of minutes of the interview
00:44:50.120 uh you're someone who studied this uh more closely than anyone for many years and right up close in
00:44:57.160 their aor in that aor do you believe this is something that america has the ability to combat if
00:45:05.240 we're able to turn the ship or is this and and what can we do if so in order to defeat the chinese
00:45:12.440 communist party well as brad and i say in many of these shows there is we're americans and so we
00:45:19.080 clearly have a way to turn this around and right the ship we go we talk about the what happened in
00:45:25.640 the spirit of 1776 and how this nation was formed and you can go out throughout the history of our nation
00:45:32.600 where we it went through a number of existential threats internally and x mostly externally and
00:45:39.480 we were able to as americans come together and and fight this off fight off uh you know we fought off
00:45:47.000 nazi germany imperial japan we fought the soviet union in the cold war we've we've done this before
00:45:54.120 it's hard it takes hard work it takes discipline it takes people of virtue and it takes people that
00:45:59.960 are willing to get off their couches and get active in their communities it doesn't mean people
00:46:05.960 have to march on the capital what it means is you have to be active in your community and you have
00:46:10.600 to be the light that shines around your sphere of influence to stand up when somebody says your child
00:46:17.320 can have more than two genders or to stand up when you see uh you know things not being followed or
00:46:24.280 where you see uh rules being broken or whatever it is you have a responsibility to not let things
00:46:29.800 go and so that's what we have to do and when it comes to china when we have to elect the right people
00:46:35.640 that are going to take action against china and not go along to make money or because they go along
00:46:41.560 because they have an ideological predilection uh in favor of communism we have to get rid of those people
00:46:48.280 they have to be voted out and we have to put people in that are going to stand firm and and dig deep
00:46:54.120 and do what our uh forebearers have done throughout the you know last two and a half centuries and
00:46:59.720 and we can do it it's hard but we can do it we just need to make sure that we're uh uh coming together
00:47:07.160 and and being focused in what we do and being consistent and knowing right from wrong
00:47:15.720 it's simple as that dr thayer just two minutes left tell people where they can get the book but also
00:47:20.760 talk a little bit about the economic things that the united states can do in order to to fight back
00:47:27.240 and try to rebalance this relationship well sure jack uh people can uh get the book wherever they buy
00:47:33.480 books uh uh online or or elsewhere or at skyhorse uh publishing uh the publisher of the book um and uh
00:47:43.560 the um what people can do in terms of economic is is to put pressure use uh their dollars obviously to
00:47:50.680 vote uh and to try to minimize um their purchases or eliminate their purchases from uh people's
00:47:58.120 republic of china put pressure on uh using uh obviously elements of civil society put pressure on
00:48:05.800 u.s businesses right not to engage uh with the chinese not to trade with them and look at their 401ks
00:48:13.720 right to find out whether they're using whether their retirement is being invested in china which too
00:48:19.560 often is is uh the case through the thrift savings plan for many government u.s government and military
00:48:26.120 uh sadly as jack and jim both of you uh fall in that category the thrift savings plan uh is heavily
00:48:33.560 invested uh blackrock uh and uh larry fink right are individuals who are determined uh to use uh american
00:48:42.120 dollars to invest and enrich and sustain the chinese communist party that has to is embracing
00:48:47.880 communist china i'm sorry that's all the time we have guys dr bradley thayer captain jim finnell god
00:48:54.200 bless you both for what you're doing honored to have you on today ladies and gentlemen as always
00:48:58.520 you have my permission to lay a short