Human Events Daily with Jack Posobiec - March 26, 2024


EPISODE 700： THE BALTIMORE KEY BRIDGE DISASTER AND THE COLLAPSE OF COMPLEX SYSTEMS


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The entire Francis Scott Key Bridge at the port of Baltimore has been destroyed after a cargo ship collides with it early in the morning local time. Rescuers and the Coast Guard are scouring the area for any signs of survivors.

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00:00:51.020 This morning, a stunning bridge collapse at the port of Baltimore.
00:00:54.980 The entire key bridge in the harbor.
00:00:56.960 The Francis Scott Key Bridge plunging into the water overnight after it was hit by a cargo container ship.
00:01:04.420 Video shows smoke coming from the ship before it hit the bridge.
00:01:08.860 And though the collapse happened in the early morning hours, 1.30 a.m.,
00:01:12.780 video shows cars crossing moments before the ship hits.
00:01:16.500 The traffic then paused, but vehicles were still on the bridge as it then crumbled into the water.
00:01:22.080 Fire department and Coast Guard teams rush to the scene.
00:01:25.880 Rescuer searching the water overnight.
00:01:28.000 Jack Posobiec here in Baltimore Harbor.
00:01:30.600 You can see just behind me the ship, the Dali.
00:01:34.500 Singapore flagged, mayor chartered, and the remains of the Francis Scott Key Bridge here in Baltimore Harbor.
00:01:42.540 Helicopters are up, search and rescue.
00:01:45.100 Coast Guard looking for any potential survivors.
00:01:48.620 You can hear the helicopters circling the area.
00:01:51.600 The ship, of course, is stationary.
00:01:54.480 It is stopped directly where the bridge, where it struck the bridge, where the bridge once stood.
00:02:00.700 As you can see behind me, the port is completely silent.
00:02:05.620 No ships are moving.
00:02:07.060 It's a quiet day that started out with a catastrophic early morning where overnight the bridge collapsed
00:02:18.680 due to this catastrophic incident, which took place around 1.30 in the morning.
00:02:27.020 Ladies and gentlemen, welcome aboard today's edition of Human Events Daily, live from Washington, D.C.
00:02:32.840 Today is March 26, 2024.
00:02:35.460 So you saw my early morning reporting there after running a few errands this morning, drove out to Baltimore Harbor,
00:02:45.080 and I was able to get some footage of what was going on at the time and continues now the search and rescue
00:02:50.800 for any of these construction workers, these contractors, who were told fixing potholes on the bridge
00:02:57.260 when this ship collided with it and destroyed it.
00:03:03.220 So...
00:03:05.460 This is tough.
00:03:07.540 I've driven with my family on that bridge many times.
00:03:09.960 I brought my boys on that bridge, my children.
00:03:13.320 In fact, in our family, we actually have a little nickname for it for the kids.
00:03:16.500 We call it Dinosaur Bridge because if you look at it or if you've looked at any of the old pictures
00:03:20.760 because it has that sort of, you know, like a brontosaurus kind of back shape that we call it Dinosaur Bridge.
00:03:28.820 And whenever we're driving around or we're driving up to see my family in Pennsylvania,
00:03:33.620 we always point out and say, hey, there's Dinosaur Bridge.
00:03:36.940 And the first thing I had to tell my kids this morning was that Dinosaur Bridge was destroyed.
00:03:42.340 Obviously, we're still getting more information about how exactly it was destroyed.
00:03:46.780 Of course, we can see the ship hitting it.
00:03:49.420 We want to know exactly what happened to that ship.
00:03:52.560 Motor vessel Dali colliding with it about 1.30 in the morning local time.
00:03:58.860 And there's a story that's starting to emerge now, and we don't have quite all the details yet,
00:04:05.640 but we're told that those construction workers who were up there,
00:04:07.980 and I remember one of the first things that I looked at,
00:04:10.840 and I remember watching the Curt Strait Bridge attack.
00:04:14.500 That was in Crimea.
00:04:16.740 But you can see that there were cars on the bridge when that took place.
00:04:20.340 However, if you watch the video very carefully and very closely,
00:04:24.600 when the ship collides directly with the support column there,
00:04:31.600 you don't actually see any vehicles that are up on the bridge itself.
00:04:35.940 You don't see anyone driving across.
00:04:37.300 You see one, I think it's a truck, looks like a semi, makes it just before the ship collides.
00:04:43.520 And you say, wow, that's amazing.
00:04:45.080 It's miraculous, obviously, that no cars were actually on at the time.
00:04:50.860 Well, there's a story, and that's now emerging,
00:04:52.700 that the construction workers that were up there fixing potholes in the middle of the night,
00:04:57.960 away from their families, making a buck, working hard,
00:05:01.900 that those guys went out, put down their tools,
00:05:06.660 and didn't try to save themselves,
00:05:09.700 that they went over,
00:05:11.880 and they stopped traffic on the Francis Scott Key Bridge,
00:05:17.360 Patapsco River, Chesapeake Bay, going into Baltimore Harbor,
00:05:20.200 that these construction workers, these guys put down what they were doing
00:05:25.740 and got up to warn traffic off of the bridge,
00:05:29.660 to try to stop traffic, to warn people from getting out there,
00:05:34.000 and potentially saved many lives,
00:05:38.540 doing so, in doing so,
00:05:41.640 sacrificing themselves,
00:05:43.640 sacrificing themselves to save other people's lives.
00:05:50.960 Now, we're told one or perhaps two of these guys,
00:05:54.400 and in my video from earlier, we'll play it again,
00:05:56.520 you can see the helicopter,
00:05:58.100 it's a Coast Guard helicopter out of
00:06:00.240 U.S. Coast Guard Station,
00:06:02.320 Atlantic City,
00:06:03.160 searching for these guys, search and rescue.
00:06:04.640 But these guys are heroes.
00:06:07.920 They're all heroes,
00:06:09.100 and we're going to get the names as soon as it's released.
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00:08:13.940 that are collapsing in many cases,
00:08:16.280 legal standards at least,
00:08:17.260 that are collapsing in many cases,
00:08:18.600 and when cases that occasionally collapse
00:08:21.640 or at least are struck down full or in part at the appeals court.
00:08:25.280 One of those was this ruling
00:08:27.360 that came down for President Trump yesterday in New York.
00:08:30.320 Now,
00:08:30.480 there were two cases in New York
00:08:32.600 of which President Trump was involved.
00:08:35.960 The first was this civil fraud case.
00:08:39.040 Big appeal that came down.
00:08:40.580 A lot of people weren't sure what was going to happen.
00:08:42.880 Judge N. Garan,
00:08:43.900 it happened right before we went to show yesterday,
00:08:47.720 but I wanted to bring on now Will Chamberlain.
00:08:49.780 He is the senior counsel for the Article III project.
00:08:52.920 You guys know Mike Davis from there.
00:08:54.740 You know Will,
00:08:55.280 of course.
00:08:55.560 He worked here at Human Events,
00:08:57.620 was instrumental, by the way,
00:08:59.140 in bringing Human Events back to life,
00:09:01.940 and he joins us now.
00:09:03.120 Will, how are you?
00:09:04.580 Good to be with you, Jack.
00:09:06.740 So walk me through this ruling
00:09:11.740 because a lot of people were,
00:09:13.680 you know,
00:09:13.900 this kind of came down to,
00:09:15.720 you know,
00:09:15.880 the left had sort of come up with this punchline saying,
00:09:19.280 oh, Trump doesn't have the money,
00:09:20.660 he doesn't have the cash,
00:09:21.860 ha ha,
00:09:22.400 you know,
00:09:23.220 he's poor,
00:09:24.460 poor Don Leon or something.
00:09:26.400 I can't even get it right.
00:09:27.660 Don poor Leon is really,
00:09:29.480 really bad puns on the other side.
00:09:32.020 And, of course,
00:09:33.200 Frank Luntz is running around saying,
00:09:35.300 you know,
00:09:35.820 you shouldn't be bragging about how you're just basically stealing things from a guy.
00:09:40.580 It's not going to play well in the polls.
00:09:43.880 But walk me through what actually happened from the legal standpoint yesterday in that ruling.
00:09:49.360 OK, so basically the Court of Appeals in New York reduced the size of the required appeal bond from $454 million to $175 million
00:10:01.000 and lifted some of the other restrictions on Trump that Judge Angeron had put in place at the trial court level.
00:10:07.000 What that means effectively is that Trump goes from being in jeopardy of, you know, not being able to provide sufficient cash right away to even be able to appeal the case or, you know, somehow having to do a fire sale of assets really quickly.
00:10:23.440 Either way, what you have is, you know, what you had was a very punitive appeal bond.
00:10:29.260 And where an appeal bond, the basic idea of appeal bond is if you lose a civil judgment at the trial level, you have the right to appeal it.
00:10:35.760 But the court can impose a bond upon you to ensure that you'll end up paying the judgment after you appeal.
00:10:40.400 And they're not supposed to be punitive.
00:10:44.180 And I think that's why, you know, Judge Angeron, you know, issued obviously this absurd $450 million judgment and then said that Trump had to put the entire amount up as a bond.
00:10:54.400 So I think the Court of Appeals found that unfairly punitive and reduced the size of it.
00:10:58.840 And I think ultimately Trump's going to be able to make bond without too much of an issue now.
00:11:02.460 So making the bond, and of course, he delivers this statement yesterday, oh, it's your collateral cash.
00:11:09.220 Walk us through, does he have to pay the full $175 or is that just put up as collateral or is a portion of that put up as collateral for the bond?
00:11:18.120 So he will need to put up, you know, he'll put up a certain amount of cash.
00:11:22.400 There will be a fee.
00:11:23.540 And then he'll put, he'll post, he'll say that these stocks I own are collateral and these cash securities are collateral.
00:11:30.120 And that should be sufficient.
00:11:33.100 The big problem was that appeal bonds are sort of unique.
00:11:36.240 They're not like other normal loans where you can put up real estate as collateral.
00:11:39.500 Appeal bonds, these companies, one, they don't deal in $500 million amounts generally.
00:11:43.540 It's very rare that a judge will impose an appeal bond of that size.
00:11:46.860 And then second, they want the collateral to be very liquid securities if it's going to be securities.
00:11:54.360 Illiquid assets like real estate, they're just not in the business of, you know,
00:11:58.080 valuing those assets and then selling them, especially because, you know, appeals often lose.
00:12:03.420 And so it's very, it's very common that a person who ends up buying an appeal bond will have to satisfy the judgment.
00:12:10.200 And so that's a big part of the reason why they want liquid securities in the first place.
00:12:13.540 You know, just shares of stock that could easily be traded.
00:12:15.420 So essentially, they're thinking, we want to make sure this guy can actually pay should he lose the appeal because the preponderance of them are, or the majority of them are, you know, are typically losers on appeal.
00:12:31.700 That being said, so it's $175 now.
00:12:34.380 But if he loses his appeal, does it go back up to the full amount of $454?
00:12:40.200 Yeah, if he doesn't, if he doesn't actually win any reduction in the size of the judgment on the merits, then yes, he would still be on the hook for $454 million.
00:12:48.240 And, you know, the New York and Letitia James would be able to satisfy part of that with the appeal bond, right?
00:12:55.280 They'd be able to take that $175 right off the top.
00:12:58.820 And then, and then they'd still be able to pursue President Trump for the rest of the judgment by seizing his other assets.
00:13:06.680 So what's the timeline on this?
00:13:10.720 Because a lot of the other cases, people have said, well, with the exception of Alvin Bragg, which I want to talk about to you in the next segment, that, you know, a lot of these cases are being delayed.
00:13:20.960 This is not one of them, obviously.
00:13:22.020 This is happening right now.
00:13:23.120 But the appeals decision will take some time.
00:13:26.820 Yeah, I don't actually know what the schedule is.
00:13:29.360 I haven't looked at the full briefing schedule.
00:13:31.320 So I don't know when the appeal, when there's a briefing is due and when the oral arguments are, but you can expect that this will take a few months at least.
00:13:37.780 And so, I mean, if it's a normal, slow appeal, it could take even up to a year.
00:13:42.500 But being able to post this appeal bond means that Trump will be able to appeal and have it heard and wait to not have to pay the $450 million now.
00:13:54.220 He'll be able to have all his issues heard.
00:13:56.200 And I think, you know, many people think, I mean, obviously, if the court does the right thing, this will get tossed.
00:14:01.520 But you can't you can't bet on the court doing the right thing.
00:14:03.840 So at least it's good for President Trump that he'll be able to delay this.
00:14:08.120 So why do you say the court should toss it?
00:14:09.560 Why do you say that would be the right thing?
00:14:11.700 Oh, well, I mean, it's a fraud case with no victims and where everybody understands that the assets are hard to evaluate and hard to put a proper value on.
00:14:22.840 There was a great New York Times article.
00:14:24.100 I don't know if you saw it where they said, you know, Letitia James might be able to start seizing Trump's assets, though it's difficult to value them.
00:14:30.120 Well, it turns out the entire premise of Letitia James's case was I saw the headline.
00:14:34.080 It was right.
00:14:35.860 Yeah, it was amazing.
00:14:36.920 I think I think Josh, Josh Lafave said, hang this in the Louvre.
00:14:41.720 Yeah, this headline.
00:14:42.580 Yeah, because the whole premise of their case is that we can value your real estate assets and they're way less than what you said they were.
00:14:48.460 Now, that's that one that's false.
00:14:50.400 I mean, Letitia James in the court said a value of 20 million on Mar-a-Lago.
00:14:54.720 President Trump has said it's worth 50 to 100 times that.
00:14:57.100 That seems accurate to me.
00:14:59.020 If you know anything about Palm Beach real estate, there aren't that many properties like Mar-a-Lago.
00:15:03.220 That's an enormous compound that actually stretches the entire width of the Palm Beach Barrier Island.
00:15:09.260 No other property on the island does that.
00:15:11.820 And just when it's that's the reason for the name.
00:15:14.380 That's actually the reason for the name.
00:15:15.740 A lot of people don't realize that from Italian Mar-a-Lago from the sea to the lake.
00:15:20.780 So that's it's right there in the name.
00:15:23.280 This is an extremely unique property.
00:15:25.820 Yes.
00:15:26.440 In the most one of the highest price real estate markets in the entire country and the entire world, probably, actually.
00:15:33.220 Normal houses go for 20 million in Palm Beach.
00:15:35.700 So what does this property go for?
00:15:37.700 You can see it on your screen right now.
00:15:39.040 That's a that's a billion dollar property right there.
00:15:41.640 And they said, you know, Trump essentially they get the theory of the case is Trump defrauded these new very sophisticated New York banks like Deutsche by saying by getting loans to buy the old post office building where the Trump Hotel was.
00:15:56.260 And he cheated Deutsche out of it despite repaying the loan.
00:15:59.620 And and I mean, you can't explain it without starting to laugh and realize how ridiculous it is.
00:16:05.100 But that's the thing about this case, because it didn't need to go to a jury trial under New York law.
00:16:10.520 All it needed was Letitia James and Judge Ingeron. 0.96
00:16:13.100 Letitia James to bring the case and Judge Ingeron to find Trump liable.
00:16:16.260 And all of a sudden, you know, the state of New York has put a half a million dollar judgment on Trump's head.
00:16:21.240 It's half a billion, rather.
00:16:23.080 And it's it's an abuse of the system.
00:16:25.760 It's obvious and like absurd lawfare.
00:16:28.740 And that's why I say that the court appeals obviously should reverse this.
00:16:31.760 And it's it's another thing, too, where, of course, this is going to have going to have repercussions for anybody else who's got one.
00:16:42.660 I mean, I'm sure there's other, you know, real estate developers who are currently in in process with, you know, different claims or potential, you know, potential issues in New York.
00:16:53.020 Not just the city, but the entire state for the appeals.
00:16:56.120 And so, you know, now people are going to have to wonder, is this same standard going to apply to everyone who's seeking a business loan?
00:17:03.180 Right. And I mean, any real estate developer, any anybody who has assets in New York and then makes a deal with a New York bank to borrow money using those assets as collateral.
00:17:13.240 On the basis of what was done by Letitia James, it's clear that the state of New York feels it's perfectly reasonable to sit.
00:17:22.160 Even if you paid off all your loans, nobody was victimized and you were, you know, just valuing your assets as, you know, aggressively.
00:17:29.240 But within the realm of reasonableness, you could just have all your money taken away.
00:17:33.140 You could just have all your assets stolen and stripped from you.
00:17:35.340 And so I don't I think it's going to have a real impact on people actually doing business in New York.
00:17:38.740 And that's maybe the only positive thing that comes out of this.
00:17:41.560 And to me, it just I said yesterday on the show, it's state sponsored theft.
00:17:46.700 It just looks like state sponsored theft.
00:17:48.760 We're going to coming up on a quick break here.
00:17:50.560 Will Chamberlain from the Article 3 Project is joining us.
00:17:54.820 He's walking us through these things.
00:17:56.200 Look, the fundamental tenet of communism is the abolition of private property, that the government can come in and take your stuff whenever you want.
00:18:10.000 The antithesis of that is that the only person who has a right to my property is me and no one else.
00:18:18.840 And that's it.
00:18:19.880 Be right back.
00:18:20.420 Human Events Daily continues.
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00:18:34.940 Oh, my God.
00:18:36.020 All right, Jack Persovic, back live.
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00:20:02.980 Will, we also got news out of New York yesterday where it wasn't about a ruling being struck down.
00:20:10.260 In fact, it was about something moving forward, and that being this trial, a criminal trial with Alvin Bragg, whereby in President Trump will now become the first president, or I guess former president now, to stand criminal trial in the United States.
00:20:29.340 Now, surely, if this is the first time completely unprecedented that a former president would stand trial, surely the crime must be just absolutely horrific.
00:20:39.840 It must be something that's just so atrocious that everyone can call it out for what it is, public opinion.
00:20:46.880 Of course, I'm sure swinging to the DA on this one.
00:20:49.700 Tell us, Will, what was this horrific crime that President Trump committed, whereby we've had to throw all 250 years, almost 250 years, of American history out the window and put this dastardly man on trial?
00:21:04.760 A falsification of business records that nobody ever viewed, which is a unique crime in the history of New York law.
00:21:14.960 Normally, whenever you see a falsification of business records cases, the common theme is that there is some reliance being expected of another person.
00:21:24.580 It's being used to defraud, where, you know, somebody who's, you know, somebody who's, say, buying your company is looking at your books, and you falsify the things in your books to get them to purchase your company fraudulently.
00:21:37.040 That's not what happened here.
00:21:38.900 Basically, Donald Trump is being prosecuted for being the victim of Michael Avenatti's blackmail, kind of another bizarre feature of this case.
00:21:45.600 He is, you know, there really is no meaningful crime here, and that's just on the substantive level.
00:21:54.260 Procedurally, this should have been time-barred by the statute of limitations, because there's no external felony that this was in service of.
00:22:02.000 And, you know, there were some theories that maybe Alvin Bragg would try and say, oh, well, this was, you know, in service of tax fraud or in service of a campaign finance reform violation, because somehow, you know, the giving money to Stormy Daniels was a campaign donation.
00:22:17.100 I mean, all these theories were very silly, but Alvin Bragg just skirted by them by saying, oh, we don't have to specify what felony this was in service of.
00:22:23.100 And that allowed him to then, or that gave him what he thought was the permission to charge a felony in this case, which extended the statute of limitations six years, which was necessary because the actions and questions happened in 2017, and he didn't bring the case until 2023.
00:22:36.860 If it was a misdemeanor, as it should, it would have been time-barred because there's a three-year statute of limitations.
00:22:42.540 And what we're all talking about here, what this is all centered around, is this series of payments that went to Michael Cohen and allegedly, because it is still alleged,
00:22:51.400 allegedly then went to Stormy Daniels for the purposes of essentially having her not come out publicly with this story that she and Michael Avenatti were sharing,
00:23:03.620 which, by the way, she did also come out publicly, eventually, I'd say, with Anderson Cooper on 60 Minutes.
00:23:10.880 Yeah, and they're basically saying, again, they're prosecuting him for being the victim of what seems to be a pretty clear blackmail scheme.
00:23:17.860 And, I mean, Michael Avenatti actually is currently sitting in jail for attempting to blackmail Nike.
00:23:22.580 So it's, you know, a very interesting way in which our system is currently working that you're seeing this type of prosecution.
00:23:30.960 Now, that's it. It's serious because it's coming up in April.
00:23:34.900 It's in New York. It could be a terrible jury pool, not as bad as D.C. was going to be.
00:23:39.360 But, you know, it's still, you know, Manhattan is not a great jury pool for President Trump.
00:23:43.420 And it's remarkable that it's gotten this far. This case should have been dismissed.
00:23:48.000 It was legally insufficient to bring in the first instance, very, very obviously.
00:23:52.340 And yet it wasn't dismissed. So one has to vote.
00:23:55.820 Well, and actually, I would I would throw out that, in fact, it was passed over a couple of times.
00:24:01.660 First, by the Southern District of New York, which, by the way, no fan of Donald Trump or conservatives or Republicans.
00:24:09.420 I mean, this is probably the most aggressive district in the entire nation.
00:24:13.640 They're going after Steve Bannon. They're going after James O'Keefe.
00:24:16.380 They're going after a number of people in the Southern District.
00:24:19.060 They passed on this one because they said this thing was a lemon.
00:24:21.700 And even Alvin Bragg himself originally passed on it before essentially it became close to the election.
00:24:29.000 And it looked as though Donald Trump was going to run again.
00:24:32.340 Yeah. And I think a big part of it is because, remember, it's just, you know, Donald Trump isn't the guy sitting there accounting for everything in the business records and describing how it's going to be reported.
00:24:40.600 And the person who is whose testimony apparently is necessarily to link Donald Trump to the actual specific writings is Michael Cohen, who is maybe the most dishonest lawyer in of our generation.
00:24:55.460 This is the guy who went out and started talking all this stuff about Donald Trump and breaching every single client confidence he could have had.
00:25:03.900 I mean, and, you know, he's he's trying to say, oh, I'm coming clean now as a lawyer.
00:25:07.760 It's just absolutely repugnant to see somebody say, oh, I'm going to come clean by airing my client's confidences in public, every single one of them and, you know, calling him all sorts of bad names.
00:25:18.100 It's absolutely shameful and massive violation of legal ethics.
00:25:20.920 The guy's been disbarred. He's already been, I think, prosecuted for perjury.
00:25:25.900 And I think SDNY thought better of the idea of bringing any sort of case where the necessary piece of evidence was going to be testimony from this convicted perjurer.
00:25:37.760 And so this this was the reason that even Alvin Bragg a couple of weeks ago pumped the brakes on this whole thing and said, I want a 30 day, at least a 30 day delay because SDNY spent an entire year sitting on something like 73000 documents that they had conducted in the federal investigation into all of this.
00:25:57.260 The first fight at the Apple first time around when Michael Avenatti and Stormy Daniels started making their rounds and even the SDNY passes on this thing.
00:26:06.080 And so Alvin Bragg goes, look, I need some time to go through this stuff.
00:26:09.460 But Judge Juan Mershon, proceeding forward after only a 30 day trial, do you think that is something that is that is quick or is that something that's that's reasonable and average in your in your view?
00:26:24.500 I mean, I don't know. I haven't. It looks like the documents may have been mostly duplicative, which wouldn't be surprising.
00:26:30.100 Right. Like if if the New York's been conducting its own investigation and subpoenaing documents for three or four years now and then, you know, they finally got a dump of documents from SDNY.
00:26:39.740 Well, SDNY would have been looking at much of the same documents.
00:26:41.740 So I've seen reporting that there wasn't actually much new or interesting in what SDNY turned over.
00:26:49.460 But I and I think that ultimately the 30 days was about giving the Trump team the apparent ability to at least review some of these documents, although obviously the number would have been unreviewable in 30 days.
00:27:00.760 That said, I think I think the real indication that Judge Mershon is not a fan of Donald Trump is the fact that this case is going to trial again.
00:27:07.840 It's similar to the civil case in that the underlying theory doesn't make any sense.
00:27:12.160 It's not it shouldn't be seen as criminal behavior.
00:27:14.560 I mean, again, I remember there was a liberal law professor who said this is a unique case in New York jurisprudence as the first falsification of business record case where there was no intent to defraud and no and no idea that anybody would be anybody would be relying on the business records in question.
00:27:31.620 So one has to suspect that the reason this case is being brought forward is the same reason that the civil case went the way it did is that they want to punish Donald Trump.
00:27:40.720 And in all this, all this has the air of LaVrenti Beria.
00:27:43.940 This is all find me the man and I'll find you the crime.
00:27:46.260 It's like New York has decided that Beria was a role model to emulate, you know, something, something, something about how communists are really bad.
00:27:55.120 Do you have a book on that coming out?
00:27:57.580 Yeah, I you know, I was thinking about writing a book.
00:28:00.600 About how communists are bad.
00:28:02.460 And then Joshua Lysak said, hey, Jack, you should you should, you know, work together with me and we should write a book about how communists are bad.
00:28:08.440 And and so we did.
00:28:10.580 And we're currently sitting at like number 33 on Amazon, which you actually helped us behind the scenes a little bit.
00:28:18.120 And we've got Joshua coming up next on this.
00:28:20.240 But I guess what I would say is and one of the things that we bear out in the book is that, you know, when people look at the news and they scratch their heads and say, gosh, this is this is unbelievable.
00:28:29.780 Like, I can't believe this is happening.
00:28:31.360 My head is spinning.
00:28:32.440 And, you know, one thing that Joshua and I found going through the book is, no, actually, this is not unbelievable.
00:28:37.140 In fact, this is actually routine.
00:28:39.000 It's routine if your analysis is that these people have fully embraced communism, which is the ideology of placing envy and destruction of your opponents ahead of, well, everything else.
00:28:52.060 They're not they're not motivated by wanting to better their own station, better their own or I should say at least their own communities.
00:28:58.940 They certainly better their own station, which is James has become very wealthy after entering public life.
00:29:03.940 But it has nothing to do with that.
00:29:05.600 It has all to do with this is why they'll say you need to, you know, you know, eat the rich, kill the billionaires, et cetera, et cetera.
00:29:13.060 That anyone who is of means, anyone who is successful must then be destroyed.
00:29:18.600 It's actually very similar to I'm sure you've read Bumpire of the Vanities that you're taking place right in New York City.
00:29:25.020 It's exactly what's happening.
00:29:26.220 Donald Trump right now.
00:29:26.980 Yeah, no, it's it's it's generally like the worst instance of lawfare that anybody anybody can remember.
00:29:33.940 I mean, the combination of all these civil cases and then four criminal indictments in four different jurisdictions in four months of a leading presidential candidate.
00:29:42.240 It's lawfare.
00:29:43.280 It's it's it's been obvious from the beginning.
00:29:45.320 And, you know, I remember being a lot more worried that, oh, well, you know, people, I guess, will take this seriously.
00:29:49.820 And, you know, Donald Trump will sink in the polls because of all this.
00:29:52.600 But I I was definitely wrong about that.
00:29:54.800 I think I think a lot of the bulk of the American people have figured out that this is absolute nonsense, that they're just trying to take their opponent off the ballot.
00:30:02.760 And I'm like, I will be very, very white pilled if if he manages to win the general, you know, because tell me about it.
00:30:12.220 It's the biggest white pill right now is looking at the polls on this.
00:30:16.340 Will, we're just about out of time.
00:30:17.960 Where can people go to follow you and follow the work of the Article Three Project?
00:30:20.820 Yeah, follow me on Twitter at Will Chamberlain and Article Three Project dot com.
00:30:28.480 But I will you know, you can find us both Article Three Project is on Twitter and on as a very nice person.
00:30:33.680 Yeah, Article Three Project.
00:30:34.380 All right.
00:30:34.560 The Article Three Project.
00:30:36.440 Check them out, folks.
00:30:37.920 They are the ones actually giving you the truth about the Trump cases.
00:30:41.960 More from the collapse of complex systems that human mentally can solve.
00:30:49.620 And Jack, where is Jack?
00:30:52.620 Where is Jack?
00:30:54.920 Where is he?
00:30:56.220 Jack, I want to see you.
00:30:59.860 Great job, Jack.
00:31:01.340 Thank you.
00:31:02.080 What a job you do.
00:31:03.520 You know, we have an incredible thing.
00:31:04.900 We're always talking about the fake news and the bad.
00:31:07.200 But we have guys and these are the guys who should be getting Pulisic.
00:31:11.960 All right, Jack Pesopic live here, Human Events Daily.
00:31:15.260 Now, we're going to bring Joshua Lysak on, the co-author of the new book, which is currently sitting at number 33 on Amazon All Books, Unhumans, The Secret History of Communist Revolutions and How to Crush Them.
00:31:28.600 And Joshua, one of the theses of the book, perhaps the main thesis of the book, is that we are currently experiencing what we detail in the book,
00:31:38.200 something that we call the Communist Revolution 2.0, which is an irregular communist revolution.
00:31:44.840 And one of the things that you would find in an irregular communist revolution, and everyone needs to preorder this right now to understand what's happening,
00:31:52.980 is that you might see systems become subverted.
00:31:56.900 You might see complex systems be deteriorating.
00:32:01.080 And you might sit down and say that all of this was actually not being done because of the unintended consequences of, you know, good minded liberals and and progressives that, in fact, it was actually deliberate and had been deliberate all along.
00:32:19.720 Walk me through the theory of the case.
00:32:21.960 Yes, thanks for having me on, Jack.
00:32:25.220 So the case that we make in the book is that the communist revolution that's currently taking place in the United States and in the Western world more generally is different from those revolutions that have came before.
00:32:39.360 The revolutions that have come before have been bloody.
00:32:43.000 They've been in the streets.
00:32:44.420 There have been thousands of participants in these mobs.
00:32:47.220 Mobs, they're very obvious, and there is a vocal figurehead who's waving their fists, carrying a red flag, for example, and it's visceral, it's real world.
00:32:58.140 But warfare itself has changed.
00:33:00.560 It used to be that armies would fight on battlefields, but now armies fight quietly, often through proxies or through other means such as cyber attacks, such as industrial sabotage, that way they can get away with it.
00:33:15.380 It's a more sneaky way to, frankly, defeat the enemy without fighting them directly, especially if the enemy has superior firepower.
00:33:25.760 And this leaves the otherwise military advantageous powers at a disadvantage.
00:33:32.540 Now, what we point out in the book is that the socio-political context of our world has changed also for uprisings.
00:33:39.880 And therefore, the communist revolution we're experiencing now is a low-intensity revolutionary war.
00:33:47.500 It takes place, just as Will Chamberlain was saying prior to you, in domains like lawfare, where an individual like former President Trump is targeted for a micro-revolution,
00:33:59.420 where all the forces of unhumanity and anti-civilization are rising up against him personally, rather than, let's say, all right-wing billionaires, for example, which would create a backlash.
00:34:15.220 It would create a true backlash because it was an obvious, almost an open warfare.
00:34:19.640 But the micro-revolutions can take place in a bit of a sneakier context.
00:34:25.760 Now, we can talk about how this ties into what we're witnessing today with this Baltimore Bridge collapse.
00:34:31.000 When a communist revolution has seen any measure of success, the new top dogs, the new shot callers who have made that revolution be successful, what do they do?
00:34:42.620 They begin what John Robb calls the hollowing out of all institutions.
00:34:48.420 Think the oligarchs who became in charge in post-revolutionary Russia, first under Lenin and then under Stalin.
00:34:56.600 What did they do?
00:34:57.660 After seizing the means of productions, they then kept a nice lion's share of it for themselves.
00:35:03.220 And what we've been seeing in the United States since the 1960s is a cultural revolution, a cultural revolution, communist revolution 2.0, in which those who have gone on the long march through the institutions have now begun enriching themselves.
00:35:18.640 And the price of that is a decline in the standard of living and the quality of life for everyone, particularly those most vulnerable, the have-nots, the so-called oppressed classes that the revolutionaries said that they were fighting for in the first place. 0.72
00:35:35.040 It's always the poor, the working poor, the underclass who stand to lose the most from those who promise them the most to gain. 0.99
00:35:43.860 And so this idea of what you're describing, the coalition of the fringes, the putting of the purposefully substandard in terms of talent, substandard in terms of quality, substandard in terms of skill in positions of power will, of course, make them far more loyal to the regime.
00:36:13.860 I can't think of anyone more perfect than this than Pete Buttigieg.
00:36:18.740 Pete Buttigieg is like the poster child of someone who clearly, from everything we know, from a very young age, looked out at the system, saw the inverted hierarchy of values that have been placed, and decided to gamify it and essentially taper his own or tailor his own resume to fit all of these things.
00:36:42.280 And so here we have this guy who is our current secretary of transportation, and his qualifications include, number one, that he said that he enjoyed trains when he was younger, and that he, if I remember correctly, said that he and his husband, Chasten, got engaged at an airport.
00:36:59.080 So those are his qualifications for secretary of transportation.
00:37:02.260 But his real qualification, Joshua, that you're outlining, is his loyalty.
00:37:08.000 Isn't that right?
00:37:09.860 Yes, that's right.
00:37:11.040 Many on social media this week have pointed out that DEI, formerly known as diversity, equity, and inclusion, now ought to be known as didn't earn it.
00:37:20.600 DEI didn't earn it. 0.99
00:37:21.940 Now, this doesn't really make any sense without the frame of reference for a communist revolution 2.0, a cultural revolution, but a low-intensity revolutionary war.
00:37:34.620 Because in the book, we lay out how communist revolutions unfold.
00:37:40.160 And one of the things that they always do is replace competent, smart people with incompetent, let's say, uneducated, meaning they, not that they're uneducated, it's that they don't know anything about what it is that they're going to be in charge of.
00:37:55.920 And this results in catastrophe.
00:37:57.580 And this happens every single time.
00:37:59.160 But they were the ones who were loyal.
00:38:00.800 And so former Mayor Buttigieg, being a gay man, he finds himself in the alleged oppressed class in the United States.
00:38:14.220 So we went from Marxism, where it was all about socioeconomic oppressed versus oppressor.
00:38:19.660 Now we've moved to a new frame of reference, which is cultural Marxism, which is those groups in a culture that can claim to be participants in the oppressed class, or they can claim to be members of that oppressed class, get the benefit of that oppression, strange as that sounds.
00:38:41.120 And yet that is what it is.
00:38:42.300 And so when we look at why are so many incompetent people being placed in positions of great power and authority, it's because they're, quote unquote, oppressed.
00:38:51.240 They are have-nots, so to speak. 0.96
00:38:53.880 And when we look at other revolutions, be it at the communist revolution in Russia, or particularly in China, when the farms were collectivized in communist China, peasants were placed in charge of managing vast tracts of land.
00:39:10.140 What happened?
00:39:10.860 They had no idea what they were doing, and mass famines ensued, and millions of people died.
00:39:16.640 It was dramatic.
00:39:18.140 What we see in the United States is a low-intensity version of a communist revolution taking place, where it's not necessarily all of the farms that are being seized.
00:39:29.640 It's specific departments.
00:39:31.860 It's specific regions.
00:39:34.140 It's specific cities that are being seized by the minions of DEI.
00:39:39.140 And they're placing those who didn't earn that responsibility in those places of power.
00:39:45.240 And the result is exactly what we see.
00:39:48.020 And sometimes what something is is exactly what it looks like.
00:39:50.980 Something you said there, I am going to be thinking about for the rest of the day, the benefit of their oppression, to benefit from oppression.
00:40:02.500 Because real oppression, of course, is nothing to benefit from.
00:40:06.320 Real oppression is horrifying.
00:40:08.680 Real oppression is something that makes you fear for your life on a regular basis.
00:40:13.880 Real oppression is something that prevents you from, oh, I don't know, applying for higher education.
00:40:20.140 Something that would apply to you for when dealing with the police would cause you to not be able to achieve promotions based on your skill set, whether you're when you're in the corporate world or in the military.
00:40:34.920 That's real oppression.
00:40:37.000 And so the idea that you could benefit from oppression seems like a complete contradiction in terms.
00:40:47.440 But given what we are in now, which is essentially a reverse government, where the government exists to, as Scott Adams has said, the government exists to misgovern us.
00:40:59.180 That's exactly the situation we find ourselves in.
00:41:01.800 Joshua Lysick, co-author of Unhumans, is our guest.
00:41:04.180 We'll be right back.
00:41:04.640 Human Events Daily continues.
00:41:07.000 Long hours.
00:41:10.700 I'm always listening to Human Events with Jack Posobiec.
00:41:13.960 All right, Jack Posobiec back live here, Human Events Daily.
00:41:17.180 Now, Joshua, we're putting together this book, The Unhumans, The Secret History of Communist Revolutions and How to Crush Them.
00:41:26.020 And so people will push back on us and they'll say, well, hold on.
00:41:30.820 There have been other industrial accidents in the past.
00:41:33.740 There have been plenty of times where this has happened.
00:41:35.940 And specifically, Don Lemon, I guess, recently said to Elon Musk, he said, well, just because your surgeon might be a person of color, plenty of white doctors commit medical accidents and medical malpractice obviously is a huge issue in the United States.
00:41:52.520 And so does that mean that directly this will this will lead to more problems?
00:41:59.480 And how can you say that when there are problems already?
00:42:01.800 So, you know, apply that then to to this system or other systems in the past.
00:42:06.920 How can you say that just because there's accidents, that's an issue?
00:42:10.000 Yes, it often has to do with who the accident happens to and who it was that was responsible for the accident taking place.
00:42:20.120 So think about the oppressed versus oppressor frame.
00:42:24.520 And that that is the most useful frame to understand the times as we live, as well as to predict what's going to happen next and how best to respond to it.
00:42:33.500 So in this cultural Marxist context, there are groups that are seen as those who have more and those who have less.
00:42:41.240 That's the oppressor versus oppressed.
00:42:42.760 That's classical Marxism applied to the modern world, to intersectionality, to critical race and gender theory and so on and so forth.
00:42:50.280 And therefore, the white Christian, heterosexual, competent male of means, that is the designated oppressor. 0.97
00:42:59.580 Whether or not they're actually oppressed is another story.
00:43:02.140 You don't have to actually be oppressed in order to be a beneficiary of that class because you can say people like me were once oppressed 30, 40 years ago.
00:43:12.540 And therefore, all of that which they suffered now accounts to me.
00:43:18.340 And so I have a suffering credit to cash in and white males have to pay for it.
00:43:23.080 And so it's seen that, well, of course, more individuals who are not competent, capable white heterosexual males should be in charge of things.
00:43:32.260 Well, even if they're not as competent, that doesn't matter.
00:43:35.260 It's only fair.
00:43:36.700 And so the left will use things like fairness, equality, equity.
00:43:40.600 I'll tie in real quick that you mentioned China before.
00:43:44.380 This is exactly what happened in Mao's China prior to the Great Leap Forward where they said, okay, someone who's the foreman of a factory must be – they are a class trader, so we have to get rid of them. 0.72
00:43:55.020 They're essentially a kulak. 1.00
00:43:56.440 And we have to take the janitors and the lowest level assembly workers, and we're going to put them in charge of the factory because they deserve to be in charge of the factory.
00:44:06.700 This is key.
00:44:07.520 This is absolutely key to understanding communist philosophy.
00:44:10.200 Please continue.
00:44:11.940 Yes.
00:44:12.520 And the way to understand if you're talking to a communist, someone who is advancing the interests of anti-civilization, frankly, whether they call themselves a communist, a socialist, a progressive, or even none of those labels, is do they use manipulative language like that?
00:44:27.520 They talk about, well, it's only fair if, like, well, there's disparate impact.
00:44:34.160 They'll use language, like you said, of how they need an opportunity or has not been access of opportunity, for example.
00:44:43.540 And they use this sort of language.
00:44:44.640 And then you ask them, what do you mean by that?
00:44:46.300 And then they will say things like, well, what did Don Lemon say?
00:44:50.660 Only 5% of physicians are, I think he said, are black.
00:44:55.780 And then you ask, okay, so what should they be?
00:44:59.880 Well, it should be 12%, right?
00:45:01.500 Because that's the population of African Americans and the cultural, the demographic makeup of the country.
00:45:06.660 Well, then you ask, why should it be that?
00:45:09.140 And then he'll say probably, well, it should actually be more to make up for all those years.
00:45:13.820 It's been less than 12%.
00:45:15.400 It should be 25%. 0.96
00:45:16.740 It should be 50% that all physicians in the country be non-white males. 0.95
00:45:20.820 And so what we have here is a competence crisis being manufactured, but the ends justify the means.
00:45:30.440 This has been the foundational principle of all communist revolutions.
00:45:36.200 The ends justify the means.
00:45:37.960 The fact that the factory breaks down, the bridge collapses, airplanes fall out of the sky, or any other issue that happens.
00:45:47.600 If it is an advancement of a utopian vision where the alleged oppressed, the have-nots, begin to wield great power over their former oppressors, that is victory. 0.98
00:46:02.100 That is victory, regardless of the quality or the outcome.
00:46:05.800 Right now, there's a Gamergate 2.0 issue in our popular culture in the United States where there are certain development studios who are talking about how important it is that gamers play video games that portray white males in a negative stereotype and non-white, non-males in a positive stereotype.
00:46:27.520 And if you don't play those games, you're a piece of flaming hot garbage as a human being.
00:46:32.380 And people react to that, and they say, well, you should play those games.
00:46:35.820 It's only fair.
00:46:37.080 And if you don't play them, there's something wrong with you.
00:46:38.780 You're racist.
00:46:39.380 You're sexist.
00:46:39.920 And there's one owner of one game studio who is praising the fact, and she celebrated the fact that none of the characters in a video game are white men, and that this is a great victory for her worldview in gaming.
00:46:53.800 What is that?
00:46:55.040 That is a micro-revolution.
00:46:58.280 That is the peasants being put in charge of the farms to plan the agriculture, which, of course, results in famine.
00:47:06.340 Is anybody going to play that woman's game? 1.00
00:47:07.440 Actually, the one that it reminds me of as well is in the HBO series Chernobyl, they depict that the secretary for Belarusia is a former shoe factory worker who has now become the party secretary of the entire region of Belarus.
00:47:25.700 Amazing.
00:47:25.980 Yes, yes.
00:47:28.100 So in that oppressed versus oppressed or cultural Marxist frame, to not be competent is a checkbox.
00:47:37.640 It is.
00:47:38.660 Do you have the education and qualifications?
00:47:41.040 No, no.
00:47:41.880 Oh, that must mean you were oppressed.
00:47:43.640 Therefore, you're now qualified to run the factory.
00:47:46.480 You're qualified to run the gaming studio.
00:47:48.260 You're qualified to be secretary of transportation, for example.
00:47:51.280 And so loyalty to the party is a prerequisite to your success.
00:47:57.660 And now when I say party, what I mean is loyalty to that which creates anti-civilization.
00:48:03.880 And that seems to be the trend.
00:48:06.880 Now, I'm not going to be completely blackpilled.
00:48:09.440 There are measures of progress.
00:48:11.800 There are people, organizations, mostly through decentralized networks now in the United States, who are redefining the vision that was lost, that can-do attitude of the Industrial Revolution and into the space age that has unfortunately been lost in the past couple of generations.
00:48:29.960 But they're not in charge of institutions.
00:48:31.840 They're having to go off and do their own thing.
00:48:34.140 Meanwhile, the institutions are hollowed out.
00:48:36.660 And any money and funding that can be extracted will be extracted by the forces of anti-civilization.
00:48:43.700 The book is Unhumans.
00:48:46.000 Joshua Lysak and myself are putting it together.
00:48:49.140 The Secret History of Communist Revolutions and how to crush them.
00:48:52.860 Most importantly, how to crush them.
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00:48:59.400 Ladies and gentlemen, as always, you have my permission to lay ashore.