EPISODE 710： THE POLITICAL POWER STRUCTURE OF VICTORY - WHY DON’T REPUBLICANS GET IT？
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The judge in New York has just denied Trump s request to move the hush money trial set to start next week, his attorneys had argued on behalf of that request in court two hours ago. Trump's request for a stay of the gag order imposed by Judge Mershon is still pending. The Vatican has released its highly anticipated Infinite Dignity Doctrine, a 20-page report rejects gender-affirming surgery, surrogacy, and gender theory. Israel says it has now set a date for an invasion of the city of Rafa, despite strong objections from the United States. Ukraine s president is giving his strongest, starkest warning yet about the state of the war against Russia without military aid from the US. Vladimir Zelensky also says Russia will soon be more insistent on dragging nuclear weapons into the debate.
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A commentator, international social media sensation, and former Navy intelligence veteran.
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This is Human Events with your host, Jack Posobiec.
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The judge in New York has just denied Trump's request to move the hush money trial.
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Set to start next week, his attorneys had argued on behalf of that request in court
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Trump's request for a stay of the gag order imposed by Judge Juan Mershon is still pending.
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My view is now that we have abortion where everybody wanted it from a legal standpoint,
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the states will determine by vote or legislation or perhaps both.
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And whatever they decide must be the law of the land.
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So Donald Trump was able to post a $175 million bond.
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Now, AG Leticia James says the agency that wrote the bond for Trump is not qualified to
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So she's reportedly beginning the process of claiming Trump's properties.
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And the Vatican has released its highly anticipated infinite dignity doctrine.
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The 20-page report rejects gender-affirming surgery, surrogacy, and gender theory, calling
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them, quote, the greatest threats to human dignity.
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Israel says it has now set a date for an invasion of the city of Rafa, despite strong objections
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Palestinians are returning to scenes of destruction in areas where Israeli troops have pulled out
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As Holly Williams reports, many are finding there's hardly anything left of their homes.
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Ukraine's president is giving his strongest, starkest warning yet about the state of the
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war against Russia without military aid from the United States.
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If Congress does not help Ukraine, Ukraine will lose the war.
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If Ukraine loses the war, other states will be attacked.
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Vladimir Zelensky also says Russia will soon be, quote, more and more insistent on dragging
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Well, ladies and gentlemen, welcome aboard today's edition of Human Events Daily, powered by the
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Today is April 9th, 2024, and Odomini live from Washington, D.C.
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Folks, I got a message out there for the conservatives, for the Republicans.
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You know, it really strikes me as strange that there are so many people that I will see on Twitter,
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on social media, and they are complaining about what's going on.
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Why did that thing happen when we should have had something else?
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Never let the perfect be the enemy of the good.
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Never let the perfect be the enemy of the good.
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I mean, specifically, when I find ourselves locked in battle with the unhumans.
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I'm not talking about the rank and file on the left.
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I'm talking about the leaders of the far, far radical left.
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The most radical left we've ever seen in this country.
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Who are poised to take over every single last institution, and already have in many cases.
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We have a chance to do something about it right here and right now.
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And it's called getting behind Donald J. Trump.
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But it's interesting to me that conservatives don't seem to understand how power structures work.
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You see, the left, all they do is care about power.
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They get a little bit of power, and they use that power to get more power.
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They don't campaign on the things that they believe because they know it would never work.
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They just campaign on things they know are popular.
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Republicans, on the other hand, would rather argue and debate and have these ridiculous purity tests and purity spirals all the way down
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rather than actually do the hard work of digging in and accumulating power.
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Now, they'd much rather purity spiral out and not actually win anything and not actually do anything
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and sit on the sidelines and argue about the people who are in the fight and doing things.
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And this is where, of course, you get where people say, oh, you're not allowed to say that about whatever issue it is.
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Oh, you're not paying enough fealty to some foreign country.
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You're not paying enough fealty to Ukraine or some other country that's not part of the United States.
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There's the United States and there's not the United States.
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Understand how purity spirals destroy access to power.
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Tony, since the last time you and I have been on, we've been seeing a ton happening in Ukraine.
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Now, I remember, it's been, what, a couple of months since you and I said
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that we're going to see the Syrianization of Ukraine.
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We're going to have situations where the line of contact essentially splits the country down the middle.
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And we also talked about the fact that you were going to see the normalization of NATO soldiers
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and NATO troops coming in, particularly in the West.
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Now, and at the time, it was, oh, Tony and Posovic are nuts.
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And now, all of a sudden, we've got Emmanuel Macron.
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You've got the new government of Poland, the liberal government of Poland talking about this.
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What's the state of play, and what does this actually mean over there?
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So, the overall status is that, I'll just be blunt, Ukraine is lost.
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You and I have been very consistent on this point, Jack.
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You know, as intelligence guys, I'm not going to put a smiley face on inevitable defeat.
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So, right now, the Russians are using Ukraine as a military petri dish because of the very
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The Ukrainians are all kind of all over the place.
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By the way, the Azov Brigade, I've always thought of them as a militia more than an army,
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a unit just saying based on who they are and what they do.
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But it is, you know, balkanization, it is civilization, whatever you want to call it.
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And what's notable is that the Russians are building momentum.
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I will use the word which best describes their ability, impunity.
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They can move with impunity pretty much anywhere they want to go.
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But at this point, literally, Jack, the Russians are so confident they're literally using new
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technologies, new weaponized technology as a big petri dish, as a testing bed for new
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technologies that they're going to put on the battlefield.
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So in any measure of military progress that I can think of, the Russians are dominating.
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The Ukrainians are quickly losing any ability to hold them back.
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And so, you know, why is it that you can say that as an analyst, look, I could say that
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looking at this as an analyst and just, you know, take all the moralizing out of it and
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to say this is clearly a situation that is going in one direction and has gone in one
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We've explained this in real time, interview after interview.
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The question is, why then do you go back to the U.S. House of Representatives and we got
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this guy, the Speaker of the House, Mike Johnson, who's saying that we must, must put forward
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And if they can just get, you know, and Tony, let me just ask you, so take the politics out
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If we give Ukraine 10 billion more dollars, 20 billion more dollars, 60 billion more dollars,
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is it going to change the fundamentals on the line of contact?
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Did the 300 billion we already spent make a difference?
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I mean, 300 billion, that's a lot of coin that, you know, you and I, if they gave us that
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I'm just saying, Jack, I think we could do a good job.
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But I, I'm, I, there's no way any, any amount of additional money.
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It's never been about the money, about the strategy.
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It's about the lack of any understanding of what the Russians want, how they're going to
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These people couldn't negotiate a, a, a, a, a nursery home visit for their, their, to
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The other thing notable in the whole equation, and I think this is a bit of a, can I say ass
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There's, there's already, there's already force NATO forces on the ground.
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And this is what I was going to ask you about too, because it sounds like, it sounds like
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what they're doing is that this is CYA because they know that there, that there are operations
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And by the way, this happens all the time when the Russians will post some photos, they uncovered,
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you know, some documents or some patches of guys.
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They could say, Hey, wait a minute, that's a French citizen.
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Oh, they were, they were operating without orders or away without leave or, you know,
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all, all these different phrases that that guy was on leave.
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And then he decided to join some unit, but that's not really what's going on.
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No, there's three categories of, of, of Westerners NATO.
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I don't know what you want to call the, the group.
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They're not officially NATO, but they kind of are.
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And, uh, basically you have, uh, provisioners who basically provide, uh, material.
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You have, uh, force, uh, uh, retainers that basically the guys who maintain, maintain maintainers
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that the maintainers who actually do maintenance on things like the Patriot missile system.
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There's a bunch of missile systems and other military systems, which are very sophisticated.
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You can't train a guy in two weeks, how to run it.
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So you have people that, and then you have fighters, you have foreign fighters.
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And I think the most prevalent group of those foreign fighters at this point are the French.
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And I think that's why Macron is making all these noises about sending French in.
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And I think Macron's trying to kind of let the French public know that they're doing this
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because they, you know, they're going to do it because they already are doing it.
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And, and I, I do believe Macron wants to try to bring the English in next, once he gets
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And by the way, let me just say this for the record.
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If he, if the French go in officially, they bring the British in officially, it's good.
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There's again, 40,000 is not going to make a difference when you're facing literally tens
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of thousands with Russians who are highly motivated and making progress.
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So, well, and in addition to that, you say the British, you say the French, but you want
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to talk another central European power there, the Germans going in, and we've already seen
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this with some German armor, um, that's made its way to Ukraine.
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Now it's, it was transferred over, but the German troops getting involved in Ukraine, that's
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going to stir up some memories for the Russians.
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And it's certainly, no, as you say, I don't know that it changes necessarily the balance of
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And it really, if you want to talk public opinion, that's the kind of thing.
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If you say the Germans are marching against the Russian army again, and they're in Ukraine
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again, you know, that's, you're going to get the Russians running around yelling rematch.
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I think there are elements of the German government who want that, but the German people don't.
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Most of the people, Jack, are thinking like we are.
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This is not helping move civilization in the right direction.
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There are real enemies that we need to look at.
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And, you know, the Russians have, uh, I think a legitimate grievance.
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Uh, basically the Russians and Ukrainians are cuffed from the same cloth.
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Uh, they've had czars and, and, uh, uh, secretaries of the Soviet.
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It's not our system, but it doesn't have to be our system.
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We just have to keep, uh, you know, to our P's and Q's.
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And I think the Europeans are pretty fed up people, not the nations, but I think the people
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are pretty fed up with what's going on as well.
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Well, Olaf Scholz, he's, he's the least popular governing leader, political leader in all of
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The entire continent of Europe, least popular head is Olaf Scholz.
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And this is, this is the really sinister part of all of this, because if you remember, if
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folks remember, and I talk about this from time to time here, when they asked Lord Ismay,
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what was the purpose of NATO, the original NATO commander, they said, what's purpose NATO?
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And he said, the purpose of NATO is to keep the Americans in the Russians out and the Germans
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We always ask Qui Bono who benefits from anything that happens, et cetera, et cetera, but also
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Now, yes, obviously Ukraine has suffered the most in terms of material, but you want to
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talk outside the larger picture, it's the German economy and the German citizens have suffered
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I said this, by the way, I remember I said this day one, two years ago when the Russians
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rolled in, I said, boy, those Germans are sure going to be upset that they listen to Greta
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instead of Donald Trump when it came to Nord Stream 2.
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And they, and media matters lost their mind and everybody's freaking out at me.
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And now here we are two years later and they're all in the slumps and they're going to lose
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You watch Mercedes Benz and Volkswagen, don't ask who founded them, by the way, and Audi
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and all of those great, all the great German auto manufacturers are going to lose out on
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Lieutenant Colonel Tony Schaefer, we're walking through the economic, military and political
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I want to know the truth, what really went down.
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So I'm jumping on my computer, going to pre-order town.
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All right, Jack Pasoic back live, Human Events Daily, Washington, D.C.
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We're speaking with Lieutenant Colonel Tony Schaefer.
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We're talking about the economic and political fallout of the Ukraine war has become a debacle.
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It absolutely has become a tar baby in many cases.
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There's another angle to it that I wanted to bring up because we just got, and this is
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really in the last 24 hours, the former head of the U.K., David Cameron, the neoliberal
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whisperer, has flown down to Mar-a-Lago and held a meeting with President Trump specifically
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on urging support for more Ukraine military spending, saying the world is watching.
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Tony, have you heard anything specifically about this meeting that David Cameron held
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And even if not, why do you think that he went down and made this plea?
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It's obviously quite unusual going to a former president, also obviously someone who is a
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So I talked to a lot of folks who advise Trump on a regular basis, and none of them are talking
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I just don't see there's any way Cameron or any other European leader, I'll be very polite
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in the way I address the Europeans, is going to have any impact on President Trump.
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I think the best course is to let Trump move forward.
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And I think that's what the Europeans don't want.
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The Europeans look at this as a way of paying bills.
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I think there's a number of initiatives that gives the Europeans the ability to essentially
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keep this going and become somewhat wet to the economics of defense spending.
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This is where they want to move their economy because the economy is so bad otherwise.
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But speaking of the economy and why it's so bad there, it's so bad, Jack, because of early
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decisions, to your point, Nord Stream 2 and other very effective and efficient means of
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transporting natural gas and oil to the Europeans has been cut off because, you know, reasons.
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Because the Europeans somehow thought that listening to Biden, more importantly, Obama, and looking
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at how they promised, I think the European leaders were promised a Ukraine that would
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be part of the EU that would give them great benefit regarding oil, gas, and food.
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And you need to come with us and destabilize Ukraine for purposes of ending Russia.
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They have nothing left now except to try to move their economy into some sort of a war footing
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that allows for them to manufacture weapons as a replacement for manufacturing cars and
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other goods, which would be productive and useful to the world.
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And it's interesting, too, because, as you say, this this economic issue that they have
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This is going to be massive, and I don't see how it doesn't affect their manufacturing
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Europe, or I should say, Germany is one of the last countries in all of the continent
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of Europe that has maintained its manufacturing base, particularly because they maintained
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a lot of the protectionist, the worker protectionist policies and business protectionist policies
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that have been placed for a long time in Germany at a time where the US did not go down that
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We, of course, went to China and we said China is going to be our big manufacturer.
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And as such, we've watched and watched as our businesses have become more sinusized over
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Even our even our manufacturers, our car manufacturers would say, great.
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But, you know, where did the parts come from and where were they assembled?
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And you get into the actual nitty gritty of all of it.
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Like, obviously, you can you get and I would certainly by the way, not just it isn't just
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auto manufacturers, I would certainly and definitely apply that to a what's that company
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So, yeah, we've not taken good care of our manufacturers, but also, you know, in the
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name of cutting costs, we've screwed them over greatly as well as the consumers and the
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Now, the question I guess I have is, is the fact that Cameron's meeting with Trump, I
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mean, is this just kind of, you know, I wonder how much of a mea culpa is there because Trump
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is the guy, number one, who warned them about all these things years ago.
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But also, I think it's just tacitly admitting that they know that Trump is ascendant in America
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and that more than likely they're going to be negotiating with him in the White House rather
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I think if all things being equal, Jack, the election goes and the actual results are are
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recorded and acted on, President Trump will be the 47th president, no doubt.
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I think the Europeans know deep down that the gravy train with Biden is going to end.
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And I mean, again, if everything goes well, we should I think we've talked we talked about
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But for now, if you want, I'm sure you want me to focus on Ukraine.
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We're definitely I mean, Tony, you've been you've been a little vocal about election issues
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And I think it definitely bears a, you know, one day when we've got a little bit more
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Tony Schaefer strikes fear into the hearts of the globalists, whether they're on the global
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And that's why we have them on as much as we possibly can.
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So but very quick, back to the economic issue, Greta Thunberg Thunberg is literally the pipe
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If she gets her way, how dare you steal my childhood?
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Anyway, the issue regarding her and what she's done is insane by the fact that she has essentially
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They want to move their economy into a pre-industrial status.
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They're stepping away from fossil fuels, not even fossil fuels.
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And what's going to happen is you see this very productive, very amazing economy in Europe,
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the Germans, literally sliding into disrepair and failure.
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And it's all because the Germans and others have listened to the globalists and people
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And I think Trump's going to going to stay strong.
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And I think he's going to try to encourage them to do the right thing once he comes back
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Look, we've got the people say, oh, we need security threats.
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And this is a huge issue, by the way, when it comes to security policy, because in this
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and this has been NATO's issue all along, because as NATO said, they need to push further
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No one sat down and ever considered whether or not the Russians looked at that as an escalating
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I had a conversation, the same words, with a former member of the Reagan cabinet just this
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And the issue was maybe when they started doing this, they should have actually engaged the
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Russians to say, this is not we're not coming for you.
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We you need to you need to let the Russians know.
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And instead, you instilled and reinforced a paranoia that goes back to the literally
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the invasion of, I believe, what was the group here?
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The Mongols, 1237, you know, the Russians have been invaded over and over the golden
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And then, of course, not, you know, hundreds of years later, you've got
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Then, of course, in the 19th, which is living in there are people who for whom World War
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The Great Patriotic War may not huge day missile parades.
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And so I don't think people realize how how ingrained different and ingrained World War
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For us, it was like, you know, some people's grandparents, great grandparents may have gone
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It was in your homes and it was in your neighborhoods.
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And it was it was your, you know, your sister was the one getting raped or your aunt, you know,
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or like that one member of the family who disappeared.
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So they're all, as you say, cut from the same cloth.
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Um, this all goes into their thinking and it's not something you can just, you know,
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just turn off because it's so, uh, it is so recent and it's so baked into everything
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So from their perspective, the, and just the Russian security posture in general, you've
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got this huge hinterland of Ukraine, the bread basket, which sure it's, it's great for
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agriculture, but you know, it also, it's really good for invading because there's no natural
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And that's why they come in with the hard hand that we see.
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And it seems that over the years that the, the leaders of NATO just completely discounted
00:29:00.820
They decided that they were smarter than the average bear and decided to poke the bear.
00:29:09.540
I talked to the Reagan guys all the time, just include this morning.
00:29:12.420
And everybody recognizes on the team I play on that you need to understand your adversary.
00:29:19.660
Reagan understood those things that we're talking about and acted on them in a way that
00:29:24.440
actually, uh, allowed for us to gain victory during world war, during the cold war without
00:29:31.640
At the same time, recognizing that, uh, uh, that defeating the evil empire was important.
00:29:37.260
We don't have people who have that level of understanding of the Russians to actually
00:29:42.200
understand what their issues are and deal with their issues.
00:29:45.380
Instead, it's all antagonism and being antagonistic and deciding.
00:29:50.040
They get their, they get their, they get their policy prescriptions from watching Marvel movies
00:29:54.260
and say, we're the, we're the Avengers and we're going to go after the, the bad guys and
00:30:06.000
I hope to God that we get a situation where we have a president who's listening to people
00:30:10.920
like you and not listening to people like David Cameron.
00:30:16.320
Project sentinel.com and, uh, you and I are always chasing each other on Twitter and it's
00:30:25.160
We're going to do an election special coming up because I think, uh, I think that's been
00:30:37.940
I want to know the truth, what really went down.
00:30:40.700
So I'm jumping on my computer, going to pre-order town.
00:30:46.320
Preferred in love, you and I can't wait to get my hands on that book.
00:30:55.500
Take a closer look from the Russian Revolution.
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We've got Joshua Lysak on the coauthor of Unhumans, The Secret History of Communist Revolutions
00:31:15.060
Joshua, the theme of today's show is power politics.
00:31:18.820
And this is something where I've noticed that the right is just, I was just going to say
00:31:25.740
It's just very deficient because the right will like to argue philosophy essentially all
00:31:31.260
And yet they'll do so without any leverage whatsoever.
00:31:35.660
And in this span of that, I think they're missing the fact that, well, while they're spending
00:31:43.320
all their time arguing, shooting within the tent, purity spirals, that, you know, who
00:31:49.740
And that eventually that ends up in, well, a lot of things that are written about in
00:31:55.780
The, uh, the slaughter of the Romanovs, the struggle sessions of Mao, the mass executions
00:32:03.520
And, you know, boy, imagine if the other, you know, imagine if the situation reversed.
00:32:09.680
Imagine if the roles were reversed and what is this pathology that exists on the right?
00:32:16.240
If you can explain it to me in, in such a way where the right refuses to focus on taking
00:32:23.380
Yes, this is something that we see in the present and we've seen it in the past as well, going
00:32:30.940
When we look at how forces of anti-civilization have overcome a society, how they've risen up,
00:32:37.180
uh, by assembling a coalition of the underclasses, the disenfranchised and the discontented and
00:32:43.960
the malcontents of a society, they're able to topple governments that in some cases had
00:32:49.200
existed for hundreds of years in the case of the absolute monarchy of France, or even
00:32:53.240
in thousands of years with the overthrow of the old order in China.
00:32:57.680
That was, that was toppled by, by two successive communist revolutions.
00:33:02.540
What the left understands is that the objective is to get power, is to organize and get power.
00:33:09.100
What we don't see that from the right, what we see instead from the right is, as you said,
00:33:14.720
Jack, a sort of purity spiraling where there's more so an agenda, there's competing agendas.
00:33:20.860
The left understands that the agenda is to win.
00:33:24.040
What we see effectively the left being able to do in these far left ring, uh, uprisings
00:33:34.680
They find themselves the coalition that is going to want power.
00:33:39.860
And so they're of a singular mind and a singular will.
00:33:45.980
What we see instead from the right is fear of power and an inability to organize.
00:33:57.660
And we see that how even in the various factions, there's intra Christian conflicts, whether it's
00:34:08.360
regarding social issues or moral issues, or even what's anti-Semitic versus what's not anti-Semitic.
00:34:14.180
Well, if you're the right kind of Christian, then you can't be anti-Semite, right?
00:34:19.440
And then there's these bickering and then there's blocking and then there's continual
00:34:24.120
And the brain of the right is sort of, uh, self-isolating one hemisphere from the other.
00:34:40.120
Peter Rangel, who successfully, for a time, pushed back against the Bolsheviks' Red Army
00:34:46.760
until ultimately, unfortunately, they were defeated and driven from Russia.
00:34:50.540
Peter Rangel himself dealt with generals with their own agendas, seeking their own glory.
00:34:58.280
And this is the difference between seeking of glory and power.
00:35:05.180
What we see from the right is the seeking of their own glory.
00:35:14.000
Well, what Peter Rangel identified was that if they had unanimously organized, done the
00:35:22.500
same thing, all of the generals, all of the leaders of the various parts of the white army,
00:35:27.400
if they had all together risen up and fought back with a single strategy rather than, uh,
00:35:35.640
I want to be the one who does it, I want to be the winner, they would have won.
00:35:39.680
We noticed this happened successfully under General Ismael Francisco Franco when he and
00:35:45.760
his generals united with one mind and one will.
00:35:51.420
And that one will was wherever we are, there will be no communism.
00:36:02.460
Reading the transcripts of some of the speeches that he gave, you understand this.
00:36:06.800
This was someone who was able to roll up all power into his hand and he held it gently,
00:36:12.900
like one might hold a small owl egg, for example.
00:36:19.500
Not squeezing it like the modern day conservative influencer and see as the egg cracks and the
00:36:26.160
yoke of grace, mercy, compassion, and goodwill oozes out through their fingers and they lose
00:36:32.620
And that's the story of the Republican conservative.
00:36:35.060
You know, there was even a line I remember reading, I believe when we were doing some
00:36:40.500
research on, on Franco, because people to, you know, this all wasn't happening in vacuums
00:36:49.520
It was, these were all happening one after another on the continent of Europe.
00:36:53.640
Uh, so Russia happens in 1917, uh, then you have various communist movements throughout
00:37:02.100
They tried, they attempt to take over Poland, uh, Poland, uh, turns the red army back the,
00:37:06.860
at the miracle of the Vistula, the battle of Warsaw.
00:37:09.220
And then you have, um, then you have Franco in Spain and the Rojas in, who take control of
00:37:17.320
And I believe there was a British commentator who actually said something along the lines
00:37:20.840
of if, if the Russian generals had just fought like the Spaniards under Franco, then they
00:37:27.100
would have won their war against the reds as well.
00:37:30.740
And so getting back to that pathology that you just said, it almost seems like, it almost
00:37:39.060
It seems like it's a fetishization of modern, of martyrdom, a fetishization of martyrdom that
00:37:44.400
some conservatives seem to have to say, I want to be part of the group that gets led into
00:37:55.780
Whereas Patton, I believe said that the goal of warfare is quite the opposite.
00:38:02.040
Uh, to, to paraphrase Patton gently, the objective of warfare is to make the enemy die for their
00:38:06.740
cause and their country rather than you to die for theirs.
00:38:09.420
So as you know, Jack, I grew up in the evangelical Christian community, very, very conservative
00:38:14.400
space that is subculture that many people are familiar with.
00:38:17.300
And in that space, uh, I I've, I've critiqued that community for the fetishization of martyrdom.
00:38:23.980
There are songs, there are movies, there are sermons.
00:38:27.260
There's this whole sort of, um, let's say entertainment vertical, strange as that sounds, it's an entertainment
00:38:33.820
vertical about martyrdom and how wonderful it is and how, wouldn't it be amazing if,
00:38:39.420
like the government was, was overseas, it was over, overtaken and if it was seized by
00:38:43.640
atheistic communists and they killed all of us for our beliefs and so we could get to
00:38:47.800
be led into the arena like the ancient Christians in Rome, wouldn't that just be amazing?
00:38:51.580
And of course, a very popular art in that particular subculture is artwork depicting the, uh, martyrdom
00:39:01.560
And so if that is what your ideal is, if that is the ideal of being a Christian and that
00:39:06.560
is for the evangelical community, although there's some strange stuff with the end times
00:39:10.560
and Israel being the clock, uh, Mike Sanovich has spoken on this, uh, at length.
00:39:17.380
Oh, we've had, we've had Taylor Marshall on for some, some, some good comments on dispensationalism.
00:39:29.400
Fortunately, Catholic Orthodox and other Protestant sects like the Latter-day Saints don't hold any
00:39:33.820
of those beliefs, but there are still quite a few evangelicals who have power.
00:39:39.040
And so the reason that we're sending billions to other countries rather than to our own people
00:39:43.400
is explained by the premillennial dispensationalism of, of evangelicals, as well as the inability
00:39:54.940
Because having power is to be like Nero, who is the bad guy.
00:39:59.780
And this isn't necessarily outward and obvious, it's subconscious, it's subliminal, and yet
00:40:07.260
it permeates that part of the American Christian world.
00:40:12.960
The idea is to be killed, not to, to be in a position where you could kill, but you show
00:40:22.220
And so what we're advocating for in this book and through messaging on this is that particularly
00:40:27.260
the evangelical Christian community in America, who is a significant voter bloc and who very
00:40:33.920
well could nominate people into positions of power, what we are advocating that they,
00:40:39.300
that they reframe is that it's okay to be a righteous ruler.
00:40:44.940
It is okay to organize and to have, not exactly absolute power as we'll call it, but it's okay
00:41:03.060
But I got a hankering, yearning deep inside for this book called Unhumans I just can't hide.
00:41:20.720
Jack Posobiec back live here, Human Events Daily.
00:41:28.340
We are talking about the fact that millions of conservatives get this, this strange, strange,
00:41:39.340
you know, phenomenon when it comes to wielding power, when it comes to actually fighting back
00:41:44.600
and fighting the left, and we've seen the same type of thinking, I'm not going to say the
00:41:49.820
same trend because it's for different reasons, but you see it in Russia, you saw it in some
00:41:54.000
elements of China, not all, but some during the communist revolution and actually revolutions.
00:42:01.340
You saw it in certainly America in many cases, you saw it in France, we see it in France and
00:42:07.000
in the book on humans, we walk through this, where even the king of France went along with
00:42:12.220
the revolutionaries as they were making their reforms and saying, oh, I'm good, you know,
00:42:17.040
I'm putting up the BLM square, I'm marching in the marches, I'm putting my fist up, they'll
00:42:21.960
never come for me, all down to the time where they walk up to him and say, hello, King Louis,
00:42:31.160
we need to see you and your wife downstairs for a quick minute, and then we know exactly
00:42:37.180
Joshua, you and I were talking during the break, and you said something that was, I found
00:42:41.660
absolutely fascinating, you said that there are those in the conservative sphere, many
00:42:47.000
of whom come, not all, but many of whom come from evangelical Christianity, who almost have
00:42:52.440
something like a victim mentality when it comes to some of this stuff, when it comes to wielding
00:42:59.600
Yes, there's an inherent nobility in victimhood, and there's an almost an allergy to power.
00:43:09.260
Quick anecdote, there was a basketball team that my team played when I was a youngster,
00:43:15.160
and there's a little local controversy about the team having changed their name.
00:43:19.760
The former name of the team had been Crusaders, this sort of mascot, right?
00:43:25.600
And it was changed to Eagles from Crusaders, because there were some evangelical moms of the
00:43:33.180
basketball players at this high school team that deemed Crusader offensive, because Crusaders
00:43:39.760
were powerful people, they were conquerors, and they kind of did some killing, and maybe
00:43:46.100
it was defensive, maybe it's not, but that's kind of offensive.
00:43:49.320
And so because it was involving Christians having and holding political power, that's not okay.
00:43:56.000
So they sanitized the name and changed it from the Crusaders to the Eagles.
00:44:01.460
They went unopposed, of course, in this name change.
00:44:04.820
And we see this as well with other sports teams changing their name from something that was
00:44:09.320
powerful, bold, masculine, to something that's kind of neutral or perhaps neutered, let's say.
00:44:16.420
And that little anecdote is emblematic, symbolic, demonstrative, illustrative of the resistance
00:44:25.340
If you ask a typical evangelical Christian, what's your opinion about Constantine, the
00:44:30.740
Roman Emperor Constantine, you will get mixed to negative reviews.
00:44:35.820
I have done this personally and had these conversations.
00:44:38.440
Now, of course, if you ask a Catholic Orthodox or other, let's say, more traditional Christians,
00:44:47.300
And even, even, there was a sermon I remember as a child in which it was pointed out that Constantine
00:44:54.800
He, in fact, was simply using Christianity to hold power in the Roman Empire and roll
00:45:01.040
it up in the fourth, fifth century, right around that time frame.
00:45:06.220
And so that resistance to political power, call it an allergy, call it what have you, there
00:45:14.840
Dare we say white guilt, possibly, even in that for the evangelical Christian?
00:45:18.920
I would say, I would say white guilt is, is a huge part of this.
00:45:25.080
And it's typically with your, your white evangelicals who have this and kind of feeling bad, like,
00:45:29.620
well, you know, there were some white Christians who killed some not so white, not so Christians
00:45:38.700
Well, you know, so when Christians get power, those who are super aggressive among us can
00:45:43.720
kind of use our religion and use the power we have to do some not so nice things.
00:45:48.700
And, you know, and by the way, I'm going to, I'm going to throw that out.
00:45:54.820
It was, it was specifically the sacking of the church of the Holy Sepulcher that led Pope
00:46:03.720
It was the Muslim Arabs who attacked the Holy Land and had already controlled the Holy
00:46:09.420
Land for a while before the first crusade was launched, but specifically going in and
00:46:14.540
sacking the church, which at that time had been, and my belief is that it is the correct
00:46:19.940
church, had been ordained by Constantine, his mother, St. Helena, to be the actual tomb
00:46:27.180
of Christ and the actual place where pilgrims went to visit the, the rock of Golgotha, the
00:46:42.180
But of course, if you eliminate all that history and at least the historical understanding, you
00:46:46.860
don't have to get into all the theological background.
00:46:57.400
And it also explains the resistance to figures like Peter Rangel being this, this, this Christian
00:47:04.420
warrior, resistance to Pinochet, resistance to Franco, these Christian and Christian, and
00:47:12.100
as I say, Christendom aligned heroes, these great men of history who did what they had to
00:47:19.220
in order to, to crush communism and the, the, the forces of anti-civilization, it was not
00:47:25.540
nice what they did because they used the power of the state.
00:47:29.260
We only got about a minute left here, but that it strikes me as interesting that something
00:47:32.960
that we've discovered through going, going through all of this, a lot of these anti-communists
00:47:38.000
who have been slandered by history, or shall we say blacklisted by history, were themselves
00:47:48.820
But in this time in which we think in labels, all it takes for millions of Christian Republicans
00:47:55.880
to dismiss the work and the legacy of Franco entirely is to put the adjective in front
00:48:04.340
Oh, you mean like, like, oh, like Mussolini, like Hitler.
00:48:08.640
So we just got to put them in the, in the segment of doing everything.
00:48:10.900
Or worse, or worse, they'll come on the, or the, uh, the conservatarians and they call
00:48:20.340
We've all got to, we've all got to run off to our ranches.
00:48:22.560
Of course, then we'll be safe in the pastoral rural lands.
00:48:25.960
Just like with, just like the Shire was perfectly safe when Sauron got the ring of power.
00:48:33.480
Um, where can people go specifically to follow you?
00:48:36.160
Because they know, they already know where to get the book.
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Ladies and gentlemen, as always, if you have no permission, play short.