Human Events Daily with Jack Posobiec - April 12, 2024


EPISODE 713: BIDEN SENDS MERRICK GARLAND TO WARN CONGRESSMEN - BLOCK FISA AMENDMENT


Episode Stats

Length

48 minutes

Words per Minute

154.57063

Word Count

7,533

Sentence Count

592

Misogynist Sentences

2

Hate Speech Sentences

11


Summary

The House votes on a bill that would extend U.S. authority to spy on foreigners who are located abroad without a warrant. Iran threatens to attack Israel, O.J. Simpson dies, and a bill fails to pass the House.


Transcript

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00:00:30.000 This is what happens when the fourth turning meets fifth generation warfare.
00:00:40.340 A commentator, international social media sensation, and former Navy intelligence veteran.
00:00:46.680 This is Human Events with your host, Jack Posobiec.
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00:01:06.240 Israel reportedly bracing for an attack by Iran in the next 48 hours.
00:01:11.780 The Wall Street Journal citing a source who says a direct attack on Israel could be launched today or tomorrow.
00:01:17.760 While plans for an attack are still under discussion, no final decision has been made yet by Iran.
00:01:22.820 The U.S. Embassy in Jerusalem has been restricted, has restricted travel for staff members and their families.
00:01:28.900 Iran has publicly threatened to retaliate against Israel for that airstrike last week on a diplomatic building in Syria.
00:01:35.220 O.J. Simpson, the former football star who was accused of killing his ex-wife and her boyfriend, has died.
00:01:41.560 The House is expected to vote today on a bill that would extend U.S. authority to spy on foreigners who are located abroad without a search warrant.
00:01:49.700 A national security official says the program is essential for gathering intelligence and fighting terrorism.
00:01:55.620 The House will also vote on an amendment that would require a warrant if the government wants to review information on U.S. citizens gathered during foreign investigations.
00:02:04.460 We've seen a rogues gallery of foreign terrorist organizations calling for attacks on us.
00:02:11.140 Now is not the time to take away tools that we need to punch back.
00:02:15.000 The Privacy and Civil Liberties Oversight Board created by the 9-11 Commission Act of 2007 says that our amendment is consistent with what should happen.
00:02:25.700 Our amendment is consistent with the majority recommendation of that board.
00:02:29.340 This was a board specifically created to protect Americans' liberties looking at how the intelligence community operates by the 9-11 Commission Act of 2007.
00:02:37.000 And they say this amendment, the majority of that board said this amendment is what needs to happen.
00:02:42.840 Ladies and gentlemen, welcome on board today's edition of Human Events Daily, live from Washington, D.C.
00:02:47.600 Today is April 12, 2024, Anno, Domini.
00:02:51.100 The FISA bill is going through, folks.
00:02:55.140 It's going through.
00:02:56.000 The reauthorization is happening.
00:02:58.680 But here's what's interesting.
00:03:00.700 Here is what's interesting.
00:03:01.980 2-12 to 2-12, the Biggs Amendment has failed.
00:03:05.060 What was the Biggs Amendment?
00:03:07.380 Well, I'm in a unique position to talk about this because as a prior Navy intelligence officer, someone who had FISA access, someone who understood very clearly how these programs work, not just the abuses that we saw from President Trump.
00:03:22.640 It's very simple.
00:03:23.980 In FISA collection, if you're read into FISA, you've got access to communications from U.S. persons.
00:03:31.080 There is no check on it whatsoever, which means that if that's collected, boom, you've got a copy of it sitting right there anytime you want to make a query.
00:03:41.380 Then, this amendment came up for people to say, and particularly the Freedom Caucus, but also Jayapal and others came in for it, and they said, look, if we are going to put forward this amendment, we want FISA.
00:03:54.880 We want the ability, and when they say that, they mean they want the ability for the government, for the feds, to go after bad guys, okay?
00:04:03.760 But what 702 allows is for the queries of that database for U.S. persons that are collected through what's called the two-hop maneuver and also incidental collection.
00:04:13.700 That means, most famously, and we talked about the other day with Senator Johnson, General Flynn, when he was on the phone with the Russian ambassador.
00:04:22.760 Here's what's even bigger than that.
00:04:24.880 This thing failed 2-12 to 2-12, and in its high, it's done.
00:04:29.640 It means it doesn't pass.
00:04:32.000 Who did the White House send out in order to make sure that this thing failed?
00:04:40.620 Merrick Garland.
00:04:42.740 In fact, Merrick Garland was making phone calls to members of the House, and we don't have the full list yet, and we're going to get it.
00:04:49.540 Oh, I believe you.
00:04:50.800 We're going to get it.
00:04:51.640 He was making phone calls to the House from the head of the Biden DOJ.
00:04:56.360 The head of the regime DOJ was making phone calls, and people know when you get a phone call like that, when Merrick Garland calls and says, we're going to make you an offer.
00:05:06.420 The same Merrick Garland that's sending patriots to the gulags of D.C.
00:05:10.580 He says, excuse me, Congressman, the call's for you.
00:05:14.780 We know exactly what that is.
00:05:18.600 That's intimidation.
00:05:20.440 That's a warning.
00:05:21.700 That is a threat.
00:05:23.760 Vote this way on 702.
00:05:26.740 Vote this way on the Biggs Amendment or else.
00:05:30.360 Remember those pictures from a couple of years back?
00:05:33.540 Remember that party you were at a couple years ago?
00:05:36.100 It would be a real shame if those photos got leaked to your wife's divorce lawyer or, I don't know, maybe the pages of the Washington Post.
00:05:44.800 Or you simply say, look, you saw what happened to General Flynn.
00:05:49.000 You wouldn't want to be the next one now, would you?
00:05:51.420 And then, boom, right like that, the government right in front of our eyes will continue to be able to listen to Americans' conversations without even a warning.
00:06:04.020 That's your country right now, folks.
00:06:06.580 And they get mad at me for calling them on humans.
00:06:09.600 Stay tuned.
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00:07:48.840 I want to play a clip now from Tom Klingenstein, chairman of the Claremont Institute,
00:07:54.180 talking about the current situation that we find ourselves in.
00:07:58.920 And as you listen to this, I want you to think about the fact, two things, two things right now.
00:08:04.220 Number one, the government is going to get reauthorization of FISA 702,
00:08:10.880 which means warrantless wiretapping will continue.
00:08:13.300 Number two, on Monday morning, barring anything crazy that happens over the weekend,
00:08:20.120 Donald Trump is going to be going to trial on Monday morning in New York City.
00:08:26.360 Take a listen.
00:08:27.380 It's time for Republicans, including those who doubt him or even can't stand him,
00:08:35.500 to get behind him.
00:08:37.620 The times demand it.
00:08:40.020 We are in a war fighting an enemy of revolutionaries that kick and spit on America.
00:08:49.180 I call our enemy the woke regime or the group quota regime.
00:08:55.680 This war is a contest between those who love America and those who hate it.
00:09:02.940 But we do not have a commander-in-chief.
00:09:07.200 You can't win a war without one.
00:09:11.220 We shouldn't much care whether our commander-in-chief is a real conservative,
00:09:17.500 whether he is a role model for children,
00:09:20.660 or whether he is modest or dignified.
00:09:23.720 What we should care about is whether he knows we are in a war,
00:09:31.320 knows who the enemy is,
00:09:33.720 and knows how to win.
00:09:36.700 Trump does.
00:09:37.940 We need to know how to defeat the enemy.
00:09:45.780 Defeat the unhumans.
00:09:47.960 Defeat the people that are doing this and pushing this.
00:09:51.720 We've got Merrick Garland.
00:09:52.860 Think about that.
00:09:53.920 What happens?
00:09:55.000 What happens when you get that phone call?
00:09:57.900 What would you do?
00:09:59.540 You're some congressman.
00:10:00.880 This is how these operations work, by the way.
00:10:02.960 If you're some congressman,
00:10:05.300 if you're, you know,
00:10:07.520 some individual who's been up on Capitol Hill for a long time.
00:10:10.260 It's not just congressmen, too, by the way.
00:10:12.060 Oh, they got senators.
00:10:13.560 They got all of it.
00:10:15.780 Staffers, lobbyists.
00:10:18.480 And then the phone call comes in.
00:10:20.460 Sir, it's for you.
00:10:22.960 Yeah.
00:10:23.400 And then you hear the voice on the other end.
00:10:26.060 Merrick Garland.
00:10:27.300 And he informs you how you're going to be voting.
00:10:29.900 Now, I'm not saying that that's what happens in all of these cases.
00:10:34.800 In many of these cases, look, I've been back behind.
00:10:38.480 Again, I've been on the other side of the table of this stuff.
00:10:41.860 That, you know, for some of these congressmen,
00:10:43.800 particularly the ones who are, shall we say,
00:10:46.020 less sophisticated world travelers,
00:10:50.060 that they get mystified.
00:10:51.520 They get caught up in the mystique of signals collection.
00:10:54.900 They get caught up.
00:10:55.480 Wow, you can really do that?
00:10:57.000 Wow, you can you can use satellites and you can do this.
00:10:59.520 So you can track someone's cell phone.
00:11:01.000 Oh, my goodness gracious.
00:11:02.300 Wow.
00:11:03.560 And and they think that, you know,
00:11:06.260 if you don't have any of these protections,
00:11:07.840 that there's going to be no way to stop bad guys.
00:11:10.980 There's going to be no way to do this whatsoever.
00:11:13.420 Well, fortunately, you know, it's it's not the sophistication.
00:11:19.020 That's the issue.
00:11:20.880 We actually have incredible technology.
00:11:23.140 We have incredible signal collection.
00:11:24.760 The issue is we don't have any controls on it.
00:11:28.820 We don't have any controls of it whatsoever.
00:11:30.640 This is what we learned through all of Russiagate.
00:11:33.820 This is what Amanda Milius and Lee Smith and Devin Nunez,
00:11:38.060 Kash Patel and everyone put together with the plot against the president.
00:11:42.460 Remember, it was the warrantless wiretapping of General Flynn that started all this.
00:11:48.580 Why did they go after Flynn first, the former head of the Defense Intelligence Agency?
00:11:55.060 Because Flynn was one of them.
00:11:58.040 Flynn knew where the bodies were buried.
00:12:00.780 Flynn and I'll never forget that picture of Flynn right there at the table with Comey.
00:12:07.380 Clapper.
00:12:08.660 You remember this one?
00:12:09.460 And they're all sitting there talking about Brennan.
00:12:14.200 They're all sitting there about to testify.
00:12:17.080 And it was the other three turn on this one.
00:12:19.240 Chuck Schumer.
00:12:20.280 Chuck Schumer said this publicly.
00:12:23.020 He said Donald Trump all the way back in 2017.
00:12:26.580 Donald Trump shouldn't criticize the intel agencies because they've got six waves from Sunday to get back at you.
00:12:32.680 It's the only time that Chuck Schumer has ever told the truth.
00:12:35.920 And I can tell.
00:12:36.580 Maybe there's some of this.
00:12:37.300 I don't know.
00:12:37.700 But understand, folks, this is the current situation that we are in.
00:12:44.340 If you want to get out of this situation, if you want to take your country back, if you want to have actual freedom and actual liberties,
00:12:51.540 well, it turns out that you can't have them when there is a junta in Washington, D.C.,
00:12:58.100 when you have people like Merrick Garland who have made it their just personal vendetta,
00:13:03.540 personal jihad against Republicans to go after that.
00:13:08.380 What have we seen?
00:13:09.260 What have we seen the Department of Justice doing from time and time again?
00:13:13.100 And these are the guys that we're supposed to trust.
00:13:15.440 These are the guys who have the keys to these tools.
00:13:18.800 These are the guys we're handing the weapons to.
00:13:20.860 That's what I'd go to any of the Republicans, not just Speaker Johnson, but every single one of them who voted against the Biggs Amendment and said,
00:13:29.080 how can you say that you are critical of Merrick Garland?
00:13:32.760 How can you say that you're critical of the conduct of this Department of Justice and this FBI at the highest levels?
00:13:39.740 And then turn around and keep giving them the keys to these weapons, keep giving them the launch codes, keep putting them in power.
00:13:51.080 You have the ability.
00:13:52.660 Congress has the ability.
00:13:53.740 So here's what happens, though, because what happens if the national security agencies get leverage over Congress?
00:14:03.140 All right.
00:14:03.500 And this is something that happened in our system a long, long time ago.
00:14:06.700 So it started started slowly in the 1950s and it grew up in the 1960s.
00:14:14.360 And then we all know 1963 and others.
00:14:18.120 It completely overtook Washington, D.C.
00:14:21.720 This is the blob that Mike Benz tells us about.
00:14:25.540 This is the power structure of D.C.
00:14:27.880 That people go to D.C. when they first get elected.
00:14:30.640 I've seen it so many times.
00:14:31.860 You'll get these people say, I'm not going to be one of them.
00:14:34.540 I'm not going to be turned.
00:14:35.740 And then they get the call.
00:14:38.080 And then they get that call when they're in a position of power.
00:14:40.740 And that call is, here's how you're going to vote.
00:14:43.940 And if you don't vote this way, here's what's going to happen.
00:14:46.780 And then all of a sudden, that same person who maybe for years had had one position steps up to those microphones in the house rotunda and says, you know, that program is actually a lot more important than I realized.
00:15:03.880 And now that I've got access to more intelligence, I've decided that this is what we've got to go.
00:15:11.360 And by the way, I'd love, I would absolutely love to hear anybody question me when it comes to this.
00:15:18.960 I said, guys, you know, you congressmen, I was one of the guys that worked at the agencies that was putting together the briefings that you guys even read.
00:15:29.280 Okay, I saw this way upstream of whatever you guys get read out.
00:15:34.560 Congressmen aren't getting raw intelligence.
00:15:36.780 Extremely rare.
00:15:37.900 So don't even try me on this one.
00:15:40.140 Look, it's very simple.
00:15:41.880 And I'm just going to say this quite, quite directly.
00:15:45.200 I didn't expect the Biggs Amendment to pass.
00:15:47.560 I didn't actually expect it to pass.
00:15:49.400 I didn't think that they had done the work, the work on it.
00:15:52.240 I didn't think the leverage is in place.
00:15:53.620 And who's in power right now?
00:15:55.300 This is what the Republicans need to understand.
00:15:57.320 Who has actual power?
00:15:59.920 Who has leverage in our country?
00:16:02.140 It is not you.
00:16:03.620 It is not conservatives.
00:16:05.400 It is not people on the right side of the aisle.
00:16:08.500 It is the left.
00:16:09.440 The left is in control of the institutions.
00:16:11.120 The left is in control of so many houses of power.
00:16:15.780 And even if the right feels like they're getting some power, like they're getting some traction, you don't.
00:16:22.780 Okay, you just don't.
00:16:24.860 Not in an official capacity.
00:16:26.800 That's why you turn around and you say, why is everything falling apart?
00:16:28.820 Why is everything going so crazy?
00:16:31.120 Because there's an agenda that is being worked out day to day.
00:16:35.920 It's the same kind of playbook that's been used for 250 years.
00:16:40.360 250 years.
00:16:42.240 Over and over.
00:16:44.040 And they never stray from this playbook because it's the only one they have.
00:16:49.660 They infiltrate.
00:16:50.900 They subvert.
00:16:52.580 They get in power.
00:16:54.400 And then they dismantle.
00:16:57.500 You're currently in the dismantling phase.
00:16:59.580 And as they dismantle, they prop up their own regime.
00:17:05.360 Do you understand?
00:17:06.300 This is why violent criminals will be let out on the street.
00:17:10.080 It's unhuman.
00:17:11.280 They are unhumans.
00:17:13.200 This is the situation that we're in because this is what they do.
00:17:16.520 This is what they always do.
00:17:20.200 So we've got the book out on humans.
00:17:21.980 People can go check it out.
00:17:22.980 But I want to explain this very carefully.
00:17:26.480 When unhumans take power, this is what they do.
00:17:31.160 This is what they've always done.
00:17:33.240 And you don't even need to go back to the French Revolution or the Russian Revolution or the Spanish Civil War.
00:17:39.720 Now, go look at East Germany.
00:17:42.680 Go look at the Chinese Communist Party right now.
00:17:45.200 Right now!
00:17:46.500 What do you think they're doing with those phones over there?
00:17:50.080 And the same surveillance that used to be done with the guy who was your political commissar is now being done with the click of a button on those thousands and thousands of Chinese intelligence screens monitoring internally their own populace.
00:18:07.060 Guess what, folks?
00:18:08.260 That's you now.
00:18:09.000 You're a Chinese, sir.
00:18:10.940 Stay tuned.
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00:18:12.580 I want to know the truth.
00:18:15.680 What really went down?
00:18:17.280 So I'm jumping on my computer.
00:18:20.020 Going to pre-order town.
00:18:23.000 It's been a mystery.
00:18:25.900 The hidden tales of the communist history.
00:18:30.860 I want to know the truth.
00:18:32.680 What really went down?
00:18:34.280 So I'm jumping on my computer.
00:18:37.000 Going to pre-order town.
00:18:39.000 Free-order town.
00:18:40.620 I'm human.
00:18:41.620 I can't wait to get my hands on that foot.
00:18:45.380 Going to dive in.
00:18:46.280 Jack Posobiec back live.
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00:19:53.420 Darren Beattie of Revolver News joins us now.
00:19:56.820 And, Darren, you know, for folks out there who are surprised that the Biggs Amendment to FISA went down today, even though it was a nail-biter, a real nail-biter right at the end there, 212 to 212.
00:20:12.040 A horse's nose is all that ended it.
00:20:17.580 It's interesting to me because you and I have talked about the fact that we've been living through an era of regime politics, and we've been speaking about this for years now.
00:20:26.040 And the fact that Merrick Garland was making personal phone calls to members of Congress, to me, it's really just the cherry on top.
00:20:35.920 I've got to get your reaction to this.
00:20:38.660 Well, it's not surprising.
00:20:40.380 And, frankly, it shows how the whole thing works.
00:20:45.420 And, in a way, you have to commend Garland for his alacrity and enthusiasm.
00:20:50.540 And he's been doing this job for a long time.
00:20:53.400 And I've spoken about him quite frequently as one of the A-list janitors for the deep state.
00:21:01.580 He's the mop-up man.
00:21:02.620 And he goes all the way back to the Clinton years, when he held the domestic terror portfolio and helped to massage the narrative, as it were, when it comes to Oklahoma City and a bunch of other things that served as the pretext to clamp down on the right then.
00:21:18.500 And so he's been at this game for a very long time, and he's one of the trusted officials.
00:21:23.360 And so he has a lot at stake here.
00:21:26.000 So he would be the type to make calls to congressmen.
00:21:30.460 And what the implicit threats or inducements might have been in those calls, we're only able to speculate on.
00:21:39.760 But I think it's interesting how a number of people had a change of heart at the last minute, including the Speaker.
00:21:47.660 Precisely.
00:21:48.300 Speaker Johnson, back when he was in the Freedom Caucus, had actually voted for a very similar amendment to this.
00:21:55.300 He had also voted for some other controls on FISA back in 2018, when all of this with the Carter Page and General Flynn and all of this came out.
00:22:05.740 Though, perhaps just handicapping it a little bit, perhaps the fact that they had to go all the way to the Merrick Garland level, actually having the AG making these phone calls,
00:22:16.660 perhaps that might also show that they were just a little bit worried about what that vote count was going to be.
00:22:21.220 Absolutely.
00:22:23.140 I guess, you know, if they were totally secure, they wouldn't need to bring in the big guns, but they got it in lockstep.
00:22:29.780 And so, again, this is just how the thing works.
00:22:32.340 The deep state, the national security state, has its own plane of operation.
00:22:37.460 And you see the major players come out of the woodwork in these 11th hour maneuvers.
00:22:47.400 The conversions on the road to Damascus, as it were.
00:22:53.080 So, over at Revolver, you guys have, switching gears a little bit, you guys have written this really big piece regarding universities.
00:23:03.760 And obviously, the universities, particularly Ivy League and our elite institutions, have become at the forefront of the culture war.
00:23:11.380 Walk us through what this piece is and sort of an interesting side that Revolver is taking, but I think for an important reason.
00:23:21.100 Absolutely.
00:23:22.120 Major new piece generated a lot of conversation already.
00:23:25.440 It's called Campus Clash, Risky Republican Gamble to Silence Pro-Palestine Students Will Push America Over the Edge.
00:23:34.320 So, what is it in a nutshell?
00:23:35.740 Everyone should go to revolver.news and read it.
00:23:37.980 But basically, there's been a major push against universities in the aftermath of October 7th, the tragic attack in Israel, and the domestic response to it.
00:23:49.460 It's awakened a lot of people who are kind of slumbering in their delusions on the center-left.
00:23:55.320 There's been a lot of kind of center-left Jewish people like Ackman are kind of getting involved more in politics as it becomes clear just how rabid and destructive left-wing movements and left-wing activism can really be.
00:24:10.280 And make no mistake, I know there's interesting conversation online and such, but underneath it all, the energies associated with the Palestine movement, and it could be objectively analyzed in a different way with more nuance, as they like to say.
00:24:29.280 But the realities are the energies really draw upon this pre-existing left-wing ideology and the mobilization efforts and tactics and behavior behind it.
00:24:41.480 And so, you see a lot of the same kinds of obnoxious displays with these Palestine protests, as we saw with BLM and just about any other left-wing protests.
00:24:51.640 It's the same DNA.
00:24:53.480 And so, that's what you see on campuses.
00:24:55.240 And this has led to an, in part, very justified and welcome backlash against universities.
00:25:03.480 But there's an important caveat to this.
00:25:06.800 We want to be careful about this going too far.
00:25:09.680 And you see various spokespeople come out of the woodwork who, you know, never really cared about conservative or right-wing issues before, people like Talia Khan.
00:25:19.900 But there are others coming out and basically calling for their own set of speech codes to slap on to the woke speech codes in order to appease all of the various groups on the university.
00:25:32.860 And I think that's very dangerous and inadvisable.
00:25:36.500 This is a great opportunity not to push for more speech codes against people we don't like, but to make a critical distinction.
00:25:45.020 We want to maximally accommodate all speech that's peacefully performed.
00:25:52.280 And we want a zero-tolerance clampdown policy on anything that is truly threatening or disruptive.
00:26:00.840 This is a golden opportunity to act on that distinction because, frankly, we don't want, you know, the disruptive behavior isn't just from the pro-Palestine groups.
00:26:12.220 We've seen disruptions for people like Charles Murray, Charlie Kirk.
00:26:16.280 Anyone on the right who goes to university faces these kinds of demonstrations.
00:26:22.100 We can get very violent and just shut down conversation.
00:26:26.140 That's the kind of thing that we can clamp down 100%.
00:26:30.420 And that all of these people like Ackman, conservative influencers, to be using all of the leverage here to demand zero tolerance for actual disruptive and threatening behavior.
00:26:43.420 Rather than saying, oh, we think we should censor this speech because it's Palestine speech or whatever, and simply end up reinforcing the legitimacy of these speech codes, which will be embraced, will be intensified, and will be used against what minimal amount of conservative speech exists on campus in this critical election year.
00:27:05.740 So twofold, maximize peaceful speech, absolute zero tolerance policy for disruptive behavior.
00:27:16.000 If you see people trying to shut down a speech, give threatening speech and so forth, they should be expelled on the spot.
00:27:23.840 Well, and this is so obvious because, look, how many times have we had to deal with this, even over a turning point, Riley Gaines is the most recent one that comes to mind, where people were screaming for her to be killed.
00:27:40.240 People were screaming obscenities.
00:27:41.920 They essentially performed a false arrest and kidnapping of her at one point where they had locked her in this room and were not letting her out.
00:27:48.760 Campus authorities weren't going in.
00:27:50.900 You know, this wasn't, you know, say what people want about, about, I know there's been some questions about Ronald Reagan, but this guy had no tolerance when it came for campus agitation whatsoever at Berkeley back in the 1960s.
00:28:03.940 He would send, Governor Reagan is an interesting and missing.
00:28:08.620 He gave him the FAA treatment.
00:28:10.380 He gave him the union treatment.
00:28:12.140 Exactly.
00:28:13.020 He gave him, he gave him the treatment.
00:28:15.140 Trash.
00:28:15.860 Traders.
00:28:16.340 He gave him the, uh, the, uh, the Pinkerton treatment too.
00:28:20.600 It's go right in and, and start, you know, just start arresting people left and right.
00:28:25.900 And I don't care if you're a student of this university, if you're breaking the law, you're going to be arrested.
00:28:31.980 And it's as simple as that.
00:28:33.520 And I remember there's the, there's not even if you're breaking the law, I would say there should be tremendous pressure because there's leverage.
00:28:38.640 Now, if people are disrupting a speech that should be automatic expulsion, but no matter who's invited to speech, no matter to speak, no matter how controversial they should be allowed.
00:28:50.900 If they're just doing their own thing and acting peacefully in accordance with the first amendment, that's such a critical.
00:28:56.460 And as you put it, simple distinction, but it's a distinction that's seems to be lost because I'm seeing a lot of people like this on individual, but also I think misguided proposal by, um, Abbott in Texas.
00:29:09.840 We don't need to slap on more speech codes to these universities on our institutions.
00:29:15.560 We need to use this opportunity and this leverage to demand maximal accommodation for first amendment protected speech and maximum pressure to borrow a phrase against people who disrupt peaceful speech.
00:29:34.120 It's very simple and it's very easily implemented if we embrace this distinction and act accordingly.
00:29:41.620 And I think that's something where, of course, you know, it's, it's, look at these, um, you know, we, we look at our, our newfound friends, uh, coming to us from the sort of center left world.
00:29:53.260 And of course their first response is, well, just ban it, just get rid of it.
00:29:56.720 Just ban this, ban that.
00:29:58.020 And, uh, without any, you know, without any sense to what could happen in between.
00:30:02.700 We're speaking with Darren Beattie.
00:30:04.560 We're talking about these issues, freedom of speech on campus and whether or not giving these powers to administrators, to the new leaders of these, uh, elite institutions would then be used against us the same way that FISA and everything else that Republicans are giving to the government is being used against us.
00:30:22.600 Be right back.
00:30:23.100 All right.
00:30:47.020 Jack was back live wanted to bring up and kind of switch topics here a little bit with Darren Beattie of revolver news, because this news about the OJ Simpson, um, the OJ Simpson passing away has sort of reignited a lot of the social debate regarding the OJ trial.
00:31:08.660 And in fact, I believe we have a clip from CNN, um, in terms of their reporting on it.
00:31:15.000 We've got to hear this.
00:31:16.560 It's not like OJ Simpson was the leader of the civil rights movement and his era.
00:31:21.820 You know, he wasn't a social justice leader, but he represented something for the black community in that moment, in that trial, particularly because there were two white people who had been killed and the history around how black people have been persecuted, um, during slavery.
00:31:37.540 There were, there were just so many layers.
00:31:39.240 And I guess I would just close with this is that there was racial tension.
00:31:44.220 Then there is racial tension.
00:31:46.000 Now it might not be the backdrop of the Trump campaign, but until this country is ready to actually have an honest conversation about the racial dynamics from our origin story till today, we will always have moments like OJ Simpson that manifest and our country will always be divided if we don't actually deal with the issue of race.
00:32:07.540 The issue of race as pertains to OJ Simpson and saying that the black community can relate to OJ Simpson because he killed two white people at CNN.
00:32:23.160 Darren, what is she talking about?
00:32:25.340 You know, I always love these things with Ashley Allison.
00:32:29.760 I'd never heard of her before, but, you know, she's, she's interchangeable with a whole industry of people just like this who are given the same talking points and spout the same platitudes.
00:32:41.800 And one of those platitudes is, oh, if it's, it's time that we need an honest conversation about race.
00:32:49.140 It's time, if we only had an honest conversation about race, first of all, if our country was allowed to have an honest conversation about race, she wouldn't have a job.
00:32:59.240 Probably if we were allowed to have an honest conversation about race, the whole edifice of the post-World War II order in the United States would completely collapse.
00:33:12.020 So I just find it rich because it's one of these semi-frequent talking points of these people like this.
00:33:17.580 The people who are only elevated to the prominent positions they're in because the United States is like the chief actuating goal of America in the past 50 years has been to prevent an honest conversation about race and destroy anyone who attempts to begin one to say, oh, now we need an honest conversation about race.
00:33:42.400 So that was the first thing that struck me. But the O.J. thing really was an interesting inflection point in our culture.
00:33:48.700 I'm old enough. I remember actually watching the trial live. I was I was young, but I did watch it live.
00:33:54.740 I remember it as well. Yeah, I lived at the time. I lived in some pure Pacific island called Palau, but we did get live CNN.
00:34:02.840 Then that was the Ted Turner days. And yeah, I was watching it and everyone was watching it.
00:34:08.060 So it was all these kinds of interesting nostalgic elements of there being enough of a monoculture that it was really the thing that everyone was watching.
00:34:17.360 That was an interesting meta component to it. But there was also a cultural component in the verdict.
00:34:25.120 And, you know, a lot of a lot of a lot of white people watching this who thought, OK, he's definitely guilty, he's definitely guilty.
00:34:32.420 The justice system will deliver was kind of a rude awakening.
00:34:35.940 And so far as these comfortable delusions and pretty lies that have sustained a lot of people to look and to hear that verdict and have those lies just.
00:34:46.340 Smashed to the ground in such a dramatic way was a kind of rude awakening that maybe lasted for a day for people and then they went back to their delusions.
00:34:58.400 But for those who were able to stick with the revelation there, it was really one of the initial throws of a transformation that has been in the works for a long time and that's really kind of culminating right now has reached a new point of intensity.
00:35:16.080 And that is that the rule of law, as we understand it, the rule of law going back to its traditions in the common law.
00:35:26.600 Now, we did a major, really interesting piece at Revolver a while back about the jury system and what it means to have a jury of one's peers, which is actually there's a whole fascinating history to that going back to medieval times and Magna Carta and so forth.
00:35:41.620 But the long story short is the legal system as the founders envisaged it, as it is rooted in the common law history and in England, is really incompatible with the racial spoils system and patronage dynamics that animate the kind of multicultural empire that we've built.
00:36:11.620 And Darren, it's interesting you mentioned the jury system because we've actually pulled an interview with someone who was one of the jurors on the trial.
00:36:23.380 Let's play that clip, guys.
00:36:26.940 Do you think that there are members of the jury that voted to acquit OJ because of Rodney King?
00:36:34.580 Yes.
00:36:35.360 You do?
00:36:36.220 Yes.
00:36:36.800 How many of you think felt that way?
00:36:38.360 Oh, probably 90% of us.
00:36:44.360 90%?
00:36:46.640 Did you feel that way?
00:36:48.280 Yes.
00:36:50.180 That was payback?
00:36:51.920 Uh-huh.
00:36:53.040 You think that's right?
00:37:00.360 Payback for Rodney King.
00:37:03.440 And so for people who don't know the history here of the 1990s, in Rodney King's, the Rodney King case was a case where this guy had been sort of the George Floyd of the 1990s in many ways.
00:37:16.620 And the police officers who attacked Rodney King, he was not killed, he was beaten, and there's a tape of it.
00:37:25.380 And police officers were later acquitted, not to go down the rabbit hole of that entire case.
00:37:30.580 But the city of Los Angeles erupted in massive riots that led to extreme violence.
00:37:39.300 The actual U.S. military was deployed to Los Angeles to quell the uprising.
00:37:45.880 That's how bad it got.
00:37:46.900 That's how bad the L.A. riots were 32 years ago.
00:37:50.020 And a couple of years later, there's this sort of other case that comes up with O.J. Simpson.
00:37:57.820 And what O.J.'s lawyers successfully did was to make the case not about O.J. and Nicole.
00:38:04.220 They made it about the black community and the L.A.P.D.
00:38:09.120 And of course, for folks who know even a little bit more, is that the case was moved from Brentwood, an elite area, very wealthy area, to the Simi Valley, where it would all but certainly guarantee either a majority or a completely black jury.
00:38:29.900 The jury then only deliberated for four hours.
00:38:32.040 So, Darren, when you talk about this idea of a multi-ethnic empire that's ruled by political correctness, how is it that that does not comport with the rule of law and the trial by jury?
00:38:45.120 Well, we see the example here because then it becomes about race.
00:38:48.480 It becomes not what the actual outcome should be in terms of evaluating the evidence according to the standards of evidence.
00:38:55.640 And they're very clear standards of evidence, standards of evidence, standards of judgment, reasonable doubt.
00:39:04.680 All of these things are fairly clearly defined, but those become irrelevant because what matters is where the verdict fits within the larger racial dynamics of the country.
00:39:15.520 You see the same thing in the acquittal of O.J. and the conviction, dare I say it, of Derek Chauvin.
00:39:22.760 Very similar kind of dynamics, sort of mirror images of one another, that in both cases, the racial dynamics supersede any kind of independent judgment according to the standards that would be given to jurors to evaluate the case properly.
00:39:41.620 One thing that we saw yesterday as well is that Mark Lamont Hill, who actually was a professor when I went to Temple University 20 years ago and is now at the City University of New York, came out and kind of said the quiet part out loud on this one and basically tweeted yesterday,
00:39:58.740 Well, I agree that O.J. murdered those people in cold blood, but we need a racial reckoning in this country, and that's why the jury did what they did.
00:40:09.680 So basically just telling us directly that social justice is meant to supersede legal justice.
00:40:19.660 And for folks out there, we've got a quick break coming up who don't understand the direct line that you can draw from that day in 1995 all the way to the situation we find ourselves in now that you have not been paying attention yet.
00:40:33.240 Jack Posobiker here with R&B.
00:40:34.600 Jack Posobiker here with R&B.
00:41:04.580 We're talking about how the O.J. Simpson trial was essentially an inflection point, an inflection point for our country going back to 1995.
00:41:14.760 And Darren, in our last segment, short segment here, I think that's what I want to ask about.
00:41:19.360 Was that case the inflection point where America kind of said, you know what, let's not care about all these laws anymore.
00:41:28.900 If there's something that's politically correct, let's choose that thing, let's choose that option over whatever the real, you know, legal matter is.
00:41:38.680 Because, of course, then you have just a couple years later, Bill Clinton committing obvious perjury in a legal setting and getting off scot-free from it.
00:41:48.700 And then we sort of have this slide of American culture from then to now where we basically say, and this finds its way, you know, you were talking about the universities earlier.
00:42:00.400 This idea that standards don't really matter anymore because there could be extenuating circumstances to the point where even, you know, O.J. Simpson somehow is a victim of society where, like, I'm sorry, did poverty cause O.J. Simpson to chop his wife's head off?
00:42:20.260 Was it socioeconomic factors that caused O.J. Simpson to do that?
00:42:25.300 I mean, this guy was unbelievably wealthy.
00:42:27.940 He was a massive celebrity.
00:42:29.680 He was on TV.
00:42:30.660 It was in, like, Hollywood movies.
00:42:32.760 He was on TV all the time.
00:42:34.640 I mean, you could not be a bigger celebrity than O.J. Simpson at the time of this.
00:42:39.620 Fabulously wealthy, married to a supermodel, and then still goes and does it anyway.
00:42:44.780 It really kind of flies in the face of a lot of liberal shibboleths.
00:42:48.420 But at the same time, it's something where we as a country in a very big way sort of decided that, you know, we're just going to look the other way.
00:42:59.060 Absolutely.
00:42:59.960 I mean, they got away with it, but it was the patronage dynamics that really governed that.
00:43:06.500 And it was an inflection point because it was the first time that it really became clear that this racial patronage ideology that, you know, been in development for a while, but kind of intensified in the 90s, was incompatible with the legal system and the rule of law as, you know, traditionally understood.
00:43:31.440 So it's a very, you know, interesting case from that perspective.
00:43:37.220 And, you know, people want to say, oh, well, it's because he's a celebrity.
00:43:40.320 That's why.
00:43:40.740 Well, we heard it from the juror's mouth directly.
00:43:43.540 It wasn't about his celebrity.
00:43:45.320 It was about race.
00:43:47.900 It was about the racial patronage dynamic and, you know, tit for tat because of the Rodney King thing.
00:43:54.520 But basically about race, about the patronage network.
00:43:58.560 Wasn't about class.
00:43:59.720 I know there are a lot of people would like to look at this and say, it's not about race.
00:44:05.140 It's about class.
00:44:06.100 Well, no, it's about race.
00:44:07.940 And it's very clear, however comfortable, uncomfortable that might be.
00:44:11.840 That's the case.
00:44:13.000 And, you know, that was kind of, in a way, a legal innovation of Johnny Cochran, who is a kind of fascinating figure.
00:44:19.640 There are so many fascinating figures that emerged in the context of this trial.
00:44:23.380 And the judge, Edo.
00:44:27.300 Judge Edo, yeah.
00:44:28.860 Edo Kalin.
00:44:30.520 You know, Mark Furman.
00:44:31.900 We were just talking about it.
00:44:33.040 Like, it really was a made for Marsha Clark.
00:44:35.680 You know.
00:44:36.240 Alan Dershowitz.
00:44:37.880 Yeah.
00:44:38.240 Alan Dershowitz.
00:44:39.320 The Kardashians.
00:44:40.580 And then the Kardashians.
00:44:43.560 And this is, this is, like, it's, it's, it's sort of the, I said on Twitter yesterday that this was, this, the OJ case is kind of the womb of new America.
00:44:53.280 Because we get, what do we get out of it?
00:44:55.640 We get, we get the Jenners.
00:44:57.660 Caitlyn Jenner.
00:44:58.600 We get the Kardashians.
00:45:01.360 All of the Kardashians.
00:45:02.640 The Kardashian father had been a, one of OJ's lawyers.
00:45:06.880 You get Alan Dershowitz.
00:45:08.300 You get so many of these figures that have just become mainstays in American culture ever since.
00:45:16.180 And a massive influence on American culture.
00:45:18.060 Plus, and producer Foss was talking about this.
00:45:21.060 It, it also entirely changed the way that Americans interact with daytime media, particularly with women in daytime media.
00:45:29.800 So many, which, of course, affects voting patterns.
00:45:32.320 So many of these things all go back to that.
00:45:36.040 And, and not just the case, but even the, the white Bronco chase and, and all of these things.
00:45:41.280 I mean, think about it.
00:45:42.000 These, you know, breaking news.
00:45:43.720 There's a, you know, there's a developing situation.
00:45:46.800 It's every single day the media goes to that whenever there's anything like this going on.
00:45:52.940 And you don't need a celebrity because you're pushing that, that hypothalibus button on the viewers at home.
00:45:58.960 And, and there you go.
00:46:00.000 It just becomes your daily dopamine drip.
00:46:02.740 And we never sit back and ask how it actually affects the country and the governance of said country.
00:46:09.580 Indeed.
00:46:10.400 Yes.
00:46:10.900 No, very, very interesting case.
00:46:13.340 Very interesting time.
00:46:14.640 Um, and it was, I mean, obviously it was impossible to understand the significance of it at the time, but it really was an inflection point in the culture and in the law in terms of how our legal system functions.
00:46:30.480 And we see, you know, we see the, the echoes of that now in 2024 with cases against Trump with the, uh, you know, interesting enough, you know, because people don't like to think it's about race, but look at the Chauvin case as opposed to the Rittenhouse case.
00:46:47.060 I'm convinced, you know, the only reason Rittenhouse is free today is, you know, thank God the people that he shot were white.
00:46:57.320 I mean, they were Antifa scum, you shot them and they're white.
00:47:00.980 If, if, if the racial dynamics had been in there, the outcome could have been very different.
00:47:06.220 There'd be very different dynamic at play.
00:47:08.480 The same dynamic that you saw with Chauvin.
00:47:10.520 So, and, and speaking of which, here we go, just about a minute left.
00:47:15.480 And as you say, juries, trials, dynamics, Alvin Bragg takes Donald Trump to trial on Monday morning here today, which is just, I mean, everyone needs to go and pull out Tom Wolfe and Bonfire of the Vanities and page through that.
00:47:31.720 Because just called every single second of what we're living through right now.
00:47:37.120 Last word, Darren Beatty.
00:47:39.100 Well, totally agree with that.
00:47:40.540 I encourage everyone go to revolver.news, check out this campus piece, read it and share it.
00:47:46.440 There's a great opportunity to exert pressure, but it needs to be the right kind of pressure.
00:47:52.000 We don't want to introduce more speech codes.
00:47:54.320 That's just going to work against us.
00:47:56.360 Zero tolerance policy for disruption of any kind.
00:48:01.100 So, revolver.news, check that out.
00:48:05.520 Folks, understand, there is a direct line through the situation we are living now to the OJ trial and then back to many things that happened in the 1960s when the Libs say the 1960s were a new founding of America.
00:48:20.020 We're actually right about that.
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00:48:31.100 We're going to dive in two pages, take a closer look.
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