Human Events Daily with Jack Posobiec - EPISODE 717： TRUMP JUROR SELECTION ERUPTS, LEFTISTS FOUND LYING TO JUDGE TO GET SEATED ON JURY

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00:00:50.680 As dueling pro-Palestinian and pro-Israel demonstrations swelled at Columbia University Wednesday afternoon,

00:00:57.280 the school's president, Manoush Shafiq, was sitting before the House Education Committee for five hours.

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00:02:04.820 Day three of former President Donald Trump's criminal hush money trial.

00:02:08.340 The number of seated jurors is now down to six after Judge Juan Marchand dismissed one of the seven already picked for the panel

00:02:14.960 after she said personal security concerns made her unable to render a fair and impartial verdict.

00:02:20.840 Do you feel like the people that you were speaking with in that jury room that you sat with all day on Tuesday,

00:02:27.440 that they can put together a fair and impartial jury because of that sense of duty?

00:02:32.840 Do you think that's possible?

00:02:35.060 I'm not sure about that.

00:02:37.180 Really, why?

00:02:38.340 You know, everybody has biases and, you know, you know, stereotypes in their mind.

00:02:45.660 So you have to be a really, you know, deep and, you know, fair person, which is very hard to do, right?

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00:03:04.080 Today is April 18th, 2024, and O'Domini.

00:03:07.020 Folks, the Trump trial, Alvin Bragg, Stormy Daniels up in New York City is an absolute debacle.

00:03:18.620 It has been completely erupting over there as multiple jurors, we're now told, have been ejected from the jury.

00:03:28.240 Now, keep in mind, this is different than not being seated.

00:03:32.640 Not being seated means you were called for jury duty and that you went in and you said or you were struck down or you said that you couldn't be partial and that you were excused.

00:03:42.000 This is different.

00:03:43.480 These are people who already went through the jury selection process, were signed off by the judge, the prosecutor, and Trump's defense attorney and seated on that jury.

00:03:56.500 The first one, a nurse, she goes down because she says, I'm worried about having my information released.

00:04:06.900 What are they worried about?

00:04:08.060 What's she really worried about?

00:04:09.400 She's worried that if for some reason she voted to acquit Donald Trump, that the left would come for her because it's New York City. 0.78

00:04:19.520 And we know what Antifa does to people they don't like.

00:04:25.100 Next, we find that a guy lied to get on the jury and he was kicked off because he had committed acts of political vandalism against the right.

00:04:37.420 This was a committed leftist activist, an agitator, sounds like an Antifa guy to me, lied his buckus off in order to get on the jury.

00:04:50.340 And then we have this final one.

00:04:52.200 She's giving these interviews to MSNBC, SR and Fox as well.

00:04:57.360 People who are down there.

00:04:58.880 And she says that she felt that she couldn't be partial.

00:05:03.260 But then she felt that none of them could be partial.

00:05:06.020 And when she was asked about Donald Trump, she seemed favorable to Donald Trump.

00:05:11.660 And she said she didn't seem quite as orange as he seems on air.

00:05:15.300 He seemed kind of more yellowish, kind of normal.

00:05:18.920 She smiled when they brought up Trump.

00:05:21.480 She seemed favorable to him.

00:05:24.640 So do you get it yet, folks?

00:05:26.720 One side is willing to lie to get on the jury the same way they did in Derek Chauvin's case.

00:05:35.020 The other side is saying they're principled.

00:05:39.540 They're going to take the moral high road and they're going to tell the judge that they don't want to serve on the jury because that wouldn't be the principled thing to do.

00:05:52.180 Understand what time of the movie we're in.

00:05:57.440 Understand how this works.

00:05:59.940 The side with power will win.

00:06:03.520 The side without it is going down in flames.

00:06:08.440 Be right back.

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00:08:26.580 Gavin Wax of the New York City Young Republicans joins us now.

00:08:30.400 Gavin, first of all, congratulations on the bodega visit.

00:08:34.920 And I wanted to ask you if you had a rough estimate.

00:08:38.040 How much does it cost to put together a crowd of fake Trump supporters, as apparently were told that you and your friends put together there the other day?

00:08:47.960 Well, listen, Jack, we all know that I'm a big recipient of George Soros money, so I was able to hire pretty much everyone in West Harlem to show up that day.

00:08:57.120 We paid everyone generously, you know, hundreds, if not thousands of dollars, including to the children.

00:09:03.280 We can't forget the children, many of whom were bribed with candy and snacks to show up, even some treats from the bodega itself.

00:09:11.540 Of course, we want to use our bribes to benefit the community.

00:09:15.300 But all kidding aside, this was entirely threatened.

00:09:18.500 You, of course, threatened the families of the bodega owners to make sure they could hold the event.

00:09:22.800 Right.

00:09:23.120 Well, no, this was really a hostage situation, which you're seeing.

00:09:26.840 I mean, the smiles aside, this was yeah, this was really a situation where, you know, they were they were there against their own will.

00:09:34.540 And many of the people who were lining the streets for hours were also there against their own will.

00:09:38.520 But, you know, listen, this is a joking aside.

00:09:41.580 We had a great turnout up in Harlem this week.

00:09:46.280 Unexpected, honestly.

00:09:47.400 I mean, the outpouring was over the top.

00:09:49.860 I've said it before.

00:09:50.900 Both sides of Broadway were lined up with people, hundreds and hundreds of people stretching several blocks that had been that had been starting to form hours before his arrival.

00:10:00.960 He didn't get there close to 630.

00:10:02.660 And I was there around 2, 3.

00:10:04.300 And they were already there predating, you know, me even arriving.

00:10:07.780 And then they filled in the median between the between the uptown and downtown lanes.

00:10:11.780 They were off to the side streets.

00:10:13.440 I mean, these were very tight shots that we're seeing.

00:10:15.460 You don't really get to see a great sense of the scale of the crowd, the amount of people watching from their windows.

00:10:20.900 From their fire escapes.

00:10:22.360 How far back the crowd goes.

00:10:24.040 So it was honestly a massive success on so many fronts.

00:10:28.340 And it just goes to show that there's real a groundswell of real support for President Trump in Manhattan, even even in upper Manhattan, in a very Democrat area, Dominican area that is actually trended rightward since 2016.

00:10:41.880 For President Trump, these are working class Dominicans that predominantly live in this area and they're sick of the crime. 1.00

00:10:48.460 They're sick of the corruption.

00:10:49.280 And they're honestly looking for a real leader.

00:10:51.200 And that guy is President Donald J. Trump, who spoke to them and who got their, you know, got their attention when he showed up unexpectedly on Tuesday.

00:11:00.140 You know, we mentioned the other day here on the show, and you and I hadn't chatted about this, that I had kind of just thrown out sort of like, well, if Trump's got to be in town, he should hold many rallies.

00:11:13.500 I said he should do stuff at Trump Tower.

00:11:15.300 Obviously, you and I have talked before about Madison Square Garden, but has this become a strategy with Trump's team?

00:11:24.200 Did they reach out to you or was this something really just spur of the moment that sort of came up that day?

00:11:29.760 Well, we certainly have been pitching a lot of different ideas.

00:11:32.340 This was definitely one of the top ones, obviously, for people that don't know.

00:11:35.440 This was the bodega for Jose where Jose Alba used to work.

00:11:37.940 He was another victim of Alvin Bragg's, you know, anarcho-tyrannical, you know, district attorney's office who, you know, chooses to prosecute law-abiding citizens defending themselves rather than the many criminals that roam the streets of New York with rap sheets going back decades.

00:11:53.620 So this was very symbolic in many ways.

00:11:55.700 But, yes, I mean, we pitched this.

00:11:57.620 We insisted it be uptown.

00:11:59.220 And there's many other ideas going through the system right now that, you know, we could really take advantage of New York City, which is in many ways a microcosm of the U.S.

00:12:09.620 So I want to just pin that down for a second.

00:12:12.660 You're telling me that it looks like more of these, call them what you will, mini rallies, micro rallies are in the works.

00:12:21.700 Absolutely.

00:12:22.360 I think there's a few that we're working on.

00:12:24.520 I don't want to I don't want to lean in too much with all the details, but I can assure you a lot of other great potential ideas across the five boroughs have been have been pitched and are being, you know, thought on.

00:12:36.120 And, you know, I think with with the success that we just saw on Tuesday, the massive, you know, outpouring of support, the press, the media coverage, everything.

00:12:45.040 I really I think it goes to show that, you know, he's not going to be isolated in New York for the for the for the duration of the trial, the six to eight weeks that the New York City is a microcosm.

00:12:54.900 A lot of the issues that are talked about nationally, whether it's the migrant issue, whether it's crime, corruption, whatever it may be, you can talk to those issues right here in New York City and one of the largest the largest media market in the country.

00:13:06.400 So I think this is a brilliant way to maneuver around this show trial, this kangaroo court and take the most advantage of his time here in the city where it's not being you know, it's not being wasted.

00:13:17.380 And, you know, new voters can be reached and messages and sentiments can be expressed to a national audience, even if it is a neighborhood in the upper upper parts of Manhattan or Queens or in Brooklyn or wherever it ends up being.

00:13:30.400 Now, you mentioned the courtroom and and I've I've taken some pains.

00:13:36.300 I tweeted this earlier. I'm not calling this a kangaroo court because I think that would be offensive to kangaroos. 1.00

00:13:41.380 This is a situation where I mean, Gavin, and let me ask you specifically about this side of it.

00:13:47.620 And this is this is so important. So we had a leftist thrown off the jury earlier today after it was found that he had lied on his questionnaire,

00:13:56.920 that he had lied to the judge, lied to the court, essentially not essentially had directly committed perjury and said that he was unbiased when in fact he had been arrested for participating in political vandalism against the right.

00:14:12.640 And I'm like, sounds sounds like an Antifa guy to me.

00:14:15.280 So you have this this guy, I'm going to call him Antifa guy, Antifa juror, Antifa juror gets on the jury, is found out, kicked off, will not face any legal repercussions for this.

00:14:27.120 And yet you have principled jurors, people who potentially are favorable to Trump saying, no, I couldn't possibly go on that jury because I'm favorable.

00:14:37.100 Gavin, who wins in such a situation?

00:14:40.520 Well, the whole the whole system is is so, you know, topsy turvy.

00:14:44.500 It's so absolutely comical. You have a judge and a prosecution working together on the same team to basically get Trump.

00:14:52.380 I mean, I was recently, you know, a few months back trying going through a jury selection process and it was a murder trial.

00:14:59.040 And I was asking questions, you know, that a juror should ask while I was on the bench.

00:15:03.180 I made it all the way to the bench stage and I was saying, well, who was this guy in gangs?

00:15:07.460 Was he involved in in drugs, things like that?

00:15:10.180 And the second I showed any sense of being someone who would have been skeptical about this potential criminal and showing some sense that I'm interested in the actual facts of the case, they totally threw me off.

00:15:21.960 Obviously, they they knew that I would be someone who would have probably voted to convict just based on basic facts.

00:15:27.700 But it just goes to show that they are working this court, they are working this case ruthlessly and they're not leaving any stone unturned.

00:15:35.100 They are going to sniff out someone who's who could even who's not even a Trump supporter, just someone who could potentially theoretically maybe be somewhat unbiased.

00:15:46.580 It's such a low threshold and it just shows that there's that scared.

00:15:50.980 Let me let me sneak in and we'll set aside for a second that you were almost a juror in vicious trial as I hear that that conservatives, though, would would not do something like this.

00:16:05.860 Conservatives and particularly Republicans would say, oh, I'm I'm too principled.

00:16:11.540 I couldn't possibly serve on this juror jury.

00:16:14.200 I'm going to walk away.

00:16:15.420 There was a guy who ran a Second Amendment blog who did this during the Kyle Rittenhouse jury selection.

00:16:19.460 I'll never forget this.

00:16:20.740 He said, I support the Second Amendment too much.

00:16:23.220 I couldn't possibly be on this jury.

00:16:26.200 And I'm like, this is a show trial.

00:16:28.360 This isn't a real trial.

00:16:30.020 This isn't an actual legal test.

00:16:33.160 There's no immoral act here.

00:16:35.320 Here's what you do, folks.

00:16:36.900 You get on the jury.

00:16:38.520 You do whatever it takes.

00:16:39.680 And then you do whatever it takes.

00:16:41.300 I'm just going to say it.

00:16:41.960 And I hope Media Matters clips this.

00:16:43.940 Sabotage the trial.

00:16:45.500 Get on the jury and sabotage the trial.

00:16:48.380 But, Gavin, I'm not going to ask you that far, but why won't conservatives think like this?

00:16:54.840 Look, I think it's a very deep rooted psychology and culture that, you know, we have on the American right.

00:17:00.180 And, you know, we're just not as ruthless and vicious as the other side.

00:17:03.080 I mean, they are, you know, religious fanatics in many ways and how they approach their political ideology and philosophy.

00:17:09.700 And they're willing to cross any, you know, line, any red line, any any cultural or societal norm to effectuate their own ends and seize power.

00:17:18.560 And it's it's it's a top of the trial.

00:17:20.860 It's a top down approach.

00:17:22.020 Say that, which the trial itself of which the trial itself is one is against the line and against the rules.

00:17:30.640 One minute left, final minute, Gavin wax.

00:17:32.620 And we'll hold you over to the next one.

00:17:33.720 No, listen, I think this this entire situation is is a complete disgrace.

00:17:38.220 We're spitting on the face of millions of Americans who once held these institutions in high regard.

00:17:42.660 And they're destroying the entire fabric of the country, our entire society, all the trust we once had, all the national cohesion we once had, because they are so scared politically of one man and one man alone.

00:17:54.220 That's President Donald J. Trump. And, you know, if there's a white pill to be gained from this, it's that they're so scared that they're going to basically throw the entire kitchen sink at him, which is what they're doing.

00:18:02.740 I mean, this case has no merit.

00:18:04.580 They're prosecuting him on a novel legal theory that's never been tested before, where there is no where there is no victim, where they're accusing him of a conspiracy to further an underlying crime, which there is no underlying crime.

00:18:14.760 They haven't exactly stated what it is.

00:18:16.260 So the entire and even if you accept their fact patterns, it's past the statute of limitations.

00:18:20.560 So the entire thing is a mockery of our justice system.

00:18:23.000 It's a national disgrace and it's embarrassment.

00:18:25.260 And I hope it ends as soon as this thing, you know, starts basically.

00:18:29.200 Right back in a second.

00:18:30.820 Gavin Wax, New York City.

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00:20:10.920 We're on now with Gavin Wax and I have a, I have a statement and I'm going to ask him

00:20:17.000 a question.

00:20:17.520 The statement is this, it is not immoral to sabotage a communist show trial.

00:20:25.820 In fact, sabotaging a communist show trial is the most moral thing you can do.

00:20:35.920 Crash the trial, sabotage the jury.

00:20:39.760 Now, I don't mean go after the jurors directly.

00:20:42.920 I'm going to be very clear about that.

00:20:44.980 But what I'm saying is if you have the ability to get on that jury, I'm talking about, talking

00:20:50.760 about the JN, the big JN.

00:20:54.180 That's right.

00:20:54.840 Jury nullification.

00:20:57.260 Jury nullification is what I'm talking about.

00:21:00.280 Gavin Wax, why is it, why, why, why is it that conservatives would not think to embrace

00:21:08.520 something like this?

00:21:10.480 Listen, I think a vast majority of conservatives, and this is reflected in the elected politicians

00:21:15.720 and the party officials of the Republican Party, they just don't have that same fight.

00:21:20.300 They're more go along to get along and they don't think in the same sort of mindset as

00:21:25.360 the left.

00:21:25.800 They don't understand the time we're living in.

00:21:27.500 They don't understand the stakes.

00:21:28.780 They don't understand that we're not living in the same country as we were maybe 20, 30,

00:21:33.200 40 years ago, that we've really lost a ton of ground to the left institutionally, and

00:21:38.320 they are not afraid to use that power to get their get what they want by any means necessary.

00:21:43.920 So until we start to wake up and understand the times we're living in, we're going to

00:21:48.680 have a situation where the left continues to run roughshod over us.

00:21:51.720 And, you know, we constantly talk about the hypocrisy and we talk about what if the shoe

00:21:55.380 is on the other foot?

00:21:56.220 And, you know, I can't believe that they would do this.

00:21:58.240 This is not constitutional.

00:21:59.820 And it's like, they don't care about these things.

00:22:01.380 They only understand raw, unadulterated power.

00:22:04.560 And unless you're willing to be reciprocal and reciprocate in the levels of Machiavellian

00:22:10.540 maneuvering and political knife fighting, you're never going to see them back down because

00:22:17.480 they understand that they could push the envelope so far and there's no repercussion.

00:22:21.240 There's not going to be any pushback because they know Republicans and conservatives writ large

00:22:25.480 are thinking of themselves too high and mighty for that.

00:22:28.340 But politics is a blood sport.

00:22:29.980 We need to recognize it as such.

00:22:31.720 And if we really want to change the course of the country and the course of our of our

00:22:35.100 society, we need to be willing to fight for keeps rather than just pontificate on, you

00:22:39.500 know, the theories of political philosophy and how things should be and how things ought to

00:22:43.180 be rather than how things are and how we can actually in a pragmatic way move the

00:22:48.100 bill, move ourselves forward.

00:22:50.080 Right.

00:22:50.480 And instead, what do we do?

00:22:52.220 We get people who, when they're actually put on the line, when they're actually called

00:22:57.360 to duty, like Speaker Mike Johnson, wasn't said to we have, we have cowardice, we have

00:23:04.700 compromise, we have total collapse.

00:23:07.720 And I got blasted early on for being skeptical of this guy.

00:23:12.220 And I said, look, when's the last time Louisiana gave us a actually, Gavin, I know, you know,

00:23:18.660 the answer to this.

00:23:19.620 When's the last time Louisiana gave us a serious, hardcore politician? 0.91

00:23:25.920 Oh, Huey Long, the great Huey Long was the last great politician out of the state of

00:23:30.240 Louisiana.

00:23:30.760 And Mike Johnson is like the entire, he's like the polar opposite in terms of, I guess

00:23:41.040 in terms of constitution, personal constitution here, not US constitution, but in terms of

00:23:45.860 constitution for Huey Long, like this bow tie wearing guy out of Louisiana, he's going

00:23:50.280 to be the one to fight the deep state.

00:23:51.620 No, of course he compromises.

00:23:53.480 He doesn't do anything on the border.

00:23:54.900 And then all of a sudden we did the whole show on this yesterday, but it bears repeating.

00:23:58.040 He told us that we would not have one penny for Ukraine until we got the border taken

00:24:03.520 care of.

00:24:04.080 And he, what did he do?

00:24:05.100 The first chance he got, he caved.

00:24:07.360 And I guess, Gavin, I'm not even really that surprised because look, we've seen this a million

00:24:11.800 times.

00:24:13.420 No, listen, it's, it's, it's very interesting.

00:24:15.400 I mean, you know, I'm reading the thousand page biography of Huey Long and he dealt with

00:24:20.180 individuals just like Mike Johnson in, in, in the Louisiana legislature at the time.

00:24:24.240 Uh, and you know, you don't have to necessarily agree with every position,

00:24:27.540 every policy that someone like a long supported, but you have to respect, uh, the ability for

00:24:33.320 them to get what they want to maneuver, what they want to reward their constituents and

00:24:37.500 punish their enemies.

00:24:38.280 And if you don't understand that very simple maxim, you're never going to get far in politics

00:24:42.960 as a political movement.

00:24:44.060 And if your entire philosophy of politics comes down to going along to get along, surrendering

00:24:49.900 at every step, uh, and giving your enemies what they want and, and punishing your friends,

00:24:54.300 then of course, you're always going to be defeated.

00:24:56.400 You're always going to be on the back foot and you're always going to be caught with your

00:24:59.240 pants down, which has been the Republican party, you know, for the last several decades

00:25:02.620 prior to president Trump.

00:25:03.900 So, uh, we need some new leadership across the board.

00:25:06.400 I was sort of not even necessarily on the same page with you.

00:25:09.340 I was open, uh, to Mike Johnson.

00:25:11.160 I was supportive of the efforts to remove McCarthy and all the rest.

00:25:14.340 And I gave him the benefit of the doubt.

00:25:15.960 And I have become increasingly more disappointed as time has gone on.

00:25:19.920 And we have now lost our, we've lost more seats since that's happened, you know, by our

00:25:23.880 own doing, and, uh, we're not getting as much done as we should.

00:25:26.740 And we're folding on very key issues from FISA to Ukraine and all the rest. 0.96

00:25:30.280 So it's pathetic. 0.97

00:25:31.280 Uh, and it just goes to show that, you know, we need to hold all of these Republicans, their 0.99

00:25:35.440 feet to the fire because it's not enough to simply win elections.

00:25:38.080 And it's not enough to simply have majorities because we have so many snakes in the grass.

00:25:42.100 We have, you know, this other front that we're not talking about.

00:25:44.700 We talk about the left, but we don't talk about the controlled opposition of conning

00:25:48.640 and the rhino Republican establishment.

00:25:50.740 They're almost as dangerous, if not worse, uh, than the radical left because they, they're

00:25:55.360 the, they're the, uh, wolves in sheep's clothing. 0.61

00:25:57.380 They pretend to be your friends and they're the ones stabbing you in the back and throwing 0.81

00:26:00.620 you on the pyre.

00:26:01.600 So, you know, it's a tough situation right now, but I would love if we had some ruthless,

00:26:06.180 you know, power, um, you know, people that understand power and political dynamics.

00:26:10.600 Listen, I was, I was recently in Congress watching a session, uh, from the, uh, from the, uh, you

00:26:17.300 know, the, the upper deck, you know, the observatory.

00:26:19.480 And I saw Nancy Pelosi holding court this, this old, you know, timid looking woman, not 0.98

00:26:26.420 really timid, but you know, she's, she's frail.

00:26:28.260 She's not a physically imposing person.

00:26:29.720 And she was running, you know, all over her colleagues, throwing her fists around, throwing

00:26:35.660 her, her finger at people, demanding things, you know, getting in their face. 1.00

00:26:39.460 I, I watched it in person and I, and I looked at the Republican side of the aisle.

00:26:43.580 I didn't see anyone with that sort of, you know, that sort of power, that sort of presence,

00:26:48.120 you know, whipping votes on our side.

00:26:50.120 I saw Nancy Pelosi who was just basically dominating her end of, of the chamber. 1.00

00:26:56.420 And it was just something, you know, so visceral and physical about it that we don't have anything

00:27:01.140 on that side.

00:27:01.860 We have this milquetoast, timid sort of approach to politics and at best we'll get the theatrics.

00:27:07.580 Oh, you know, we're going to do a hearing.

00:27:08.940 We're going to do a Trey Gowdy style thing.

00:27:10.920 And, you know, all these clips are going to be great for fundraising and then do nothing.

00:27:14.200 And then you have the left, you have the Nancy Pelosi's who are, you know, you know,

00:27:18.360 breaking skulls and taking names and getting what they want.

00:27:21.480 And, you know, that's history.

00:27:22.820 I mean, I just can't believe this.

00:27:27.260 And this is this, I was going to read for you from Politico playbook.

00:27:30.260 It's, it's very tight.

00:27:31.640 And it just, and so Politico, this is like the, and playbook has gone super left.

00:27:35.960 Raheem was reading about this earlier.

00:27:37.540 And he, it goes, so it talks about the first juror who left.

00:27:42.180 So we've, we've gone from seven jurors down to five.

00:27:44.960 The first juror who leaves says that she was worried about being identified.

00:27:49.180 The second one though, and then, and then here's the second paragraph.

00:27:52.180 Another juror was dismissed after lawyers raised questions about whether he'd been truthful

00:27:57.580 about his criminal history.

00:27:59.220 Though Mershon didn't provide details of the court's conversations with him.

00:28:03.140 The juror indicated to reporters afterward that he disregarded the dismissal.

00:28:08.120 They don't even tell you that it was a committed leftist.

00:28:12.500 Politico playbook, like the most careful language you can even find, didn't even admit what it

00:28:18.620 was.

00:28:19.120 Didn't even tell you right there.

00:28:20.360 I mean, Gavin, this is like, it just goes to show you, I guess there's one side in this

00:28:25.000 country that's deeply committed to power and to winning and is willing to go so far as

00:28:29.620 to put the president of the United States and the leading candidate to be the next president

00:28:34.300 of the United States on criminal, on communist show trial for it.

00:28:37.120 Another one who doesn't.

00:28:38.140 But I mean, look, I don't understand this.

00:28:42.080 That like, like, yes, you are going to have to get your hands dirty if you want to beat

00:28:46.160 communism.

00:28:46.620 And it's as simple as that.

00:28:48.040 Gavin wax.

00:28:49.040 You're a guy who's not afraid to get his hands dirty.

00:28:52.580 Well, thank you.

00:28:53.620 And listen, I mean, if all these people want to, you know, claim that, you know, they're

00:28:56.640 they're holier than thou and they're the self-righteous Christians, then why are they

00:28:59.900 in politics to begin with?

00:29:01.020 I just don't buy it.

00:29:02.680 If you're working up the political ladder, if you've been in D.C. your whole life, don't 1.00

00:29:08.160 give me this stupid stick that, oh, you know, my Christian, you know, ethics forbade me 0.99

00:29:12.920 from doing these things, please, we know what you're doing behind the scenes. 1.00

00:29:15.880 We know it's an act.

00:29:16.740 We know it's theatrics.

00:29:17.700 We know that you're willing to, you know, do whatever you need to do to get your own

00:29:20.940 money, to line your own pockets, to do your insider trading, to do favors for your donor

00:29:25.240 buddies and your corporate buddies.

00:29:26.680 You could do all that.

00:29:27.740 But then when the people, your own constituents, you know, the average Joe on the street is

00:29:31.440 asking you to fight against this politicized witch hunt, is asking you to fix the border,

00:29:35.240 is asking you not to send their tax money to Ukraine.

00:29:38.100 Then all of a sudden you have all these excuses.

00:29:40.660 Oh, you know, I can't do this.

00:29:41.900 We can't fight that way.

00:29:43.520 We can't be that aggressive.

00:29:45.020 That's not that's not proper.

00:29:46.520 I mean, give me a break.

00:29:47.800 Listen, don't hate me or you for being the messenger for describing accurately the state

00:29:53.160 of the country and the state of our political system and our judicial system and our legal

00:29:57.060 system, for that matter. 0.99

00:29:58.220 You know, we're just explaining what's in front of our eyes, that it's all gone to crap 0.98

00:30:01.380 and it's all been politicized. 1.00

00:30:02.820 It's all corrupt and it's not worth a damn anymore.

00:30:05.580 And we would like to fix it by some means.

00:30:08.160 Maybe you don't agree with the means, but at least recognize the problem.

00:30:10.900 But the problem is, is that most of these conning pundits and their associated, you know,

00:30:14.780 Republican elected officials, they don't even want to recognize that we have a problem.

00:30:18.120 They they they pretend that all of this is above board, that this case is totally legitimate,

00:30:23.020 that, you know, that that that President Trump is is egregiously, you know, violated several

00:30:28.600 statutes in the law.

00:30:29.720 Gavin, we're running up on our break.

00:30:32.920 You must have hit the bodega this morning, man, because absolutely and fuego.

00:30:38.080 Where can people follow you, man?

00:30:40.160 Oh, thank you.

00:30:41.000 I definitely got my my chopped my chopped cheese at the bodega this morning.

00:30:45.020 You can follow me at Gavin Wax on Instagram, Facebook and all the rest.

00:30:48.640 Gavin Wax dot com.

00:30:49.460 Thank you for having me, Jack.

00:30:51.160 God bless, man.

00:30:51.960 And I'll see you next week.

00:30:52.920 Really went down.

00:30:54.280 So I'm trying to buy my computer.

00:30:57.000 Going to pre-order town.

00:30:59.580 Pre-ordered love, humans.

00:31:02.280 Can't wait to get my hands on that book.

00:31:06.260 Pre-ordered love, humans.

00:31:09.200 Can't wait to get my hands on that book.

00:31:12.360 Gonna dive into his pages.

00:31:15.020 Take a closer look.

00:31:16.900 From the Russian Revolution.

00:31:18.380 To the playroom scale.

00:31:22.460 All right, Jack Posobiec back live here at Human Events Daily.

00:31:26.780 I want to switch gears for a second because there's an organization we mentioned briefly

00:31:31.960 a couple of weeks ago here on the show, and I wanted to get them on to find out more information

00:31:37.100 because people are asking constantly, what can I do to get more active?

00:31:41.600 And I know we talk about the importance of being active.

00:31:45.000 In fact, we had Dr. Taylor Marshall on here yesterday, and we specifically talked about

00:31:48.280 the importance of Christians becoming active Christians and saying that you can no longer

00:31:55.280 simply be a passive Christian where you say your grace before meals and you go to church

00:32:01.920 on Sunday and that's it.

00:32:04.200 You know, that's it.

00:32:04.860 You know, I gave it the office, right?

00:32:06.580 No, you must become active Christians. 0.52

00:32:09.420 And there are ways to actually do things in your personal life and locally that can have

00:32:17.020 a huge impact.

00:32:18.460 And our next guest is someone who's absolutely done something like that.

00:32:23.100 And then some, his name is Joel Penton, and he is with the organization LifeWise, LifeWise

00:32:29.920 Academy.

00:32:30.420 Joel, tell me about LifeWise Academy and how did it come to be?

00:32:36.720 Yeah, well, thank you for the, yeah, thanks for the opportunity.

00:32:40.080 LifeWise, we provide Bible education to public school students during school hours, which sounds-

00:32:47.420 Whoa, what?

00:32:48.020 Whoa, what?

00:32:49.060 That's, that's, you're blowing my mind here.

00:32:51.300 How are you not in handcuffs?

00:32:52.740 Exactly, that is typically the response.

00:32:56.360 People hear that, they say, how could that be?

00:32:58.340 What about the separation of church and state?

00:33:00.100 The Bible was taken out of the school day long, long ago.

00:33:03.600 But what few people realize is that around the time the Bible and prayer were systematically

00:33:08.700 removed from public schools, a window of opportunity was opened.

00:33:13.260 In 1952, the Supreme Court ruled that public school students can, in fact, be released from

00:33:18.820 public school during school hours to receive religious instruction if the program is off

00:33:24.460 school property, privately funded, and students have parental permission.

00:33:29.400 However, this Supreme Court ruling, this opportunity called Released Time Religious Instruction, has

00:33:34.880 kind of just been under the radar for the last 70 years.

00:33:38.200 In 2019, we learned about it, started a program, and just to, we provide the tools for communities

00:33:45.380 to take advantage of this opportunity.

00:33:48.240 And today, we're serving over 300 schools across more than a dozen states.

00:33:52.940 Over 31,000 students are enrolled today.

00:33:58.360 And so, walk me through the mechanics of something like this.

00:34:02.820 Now, do you receive state funding for this?

00:34:05.380 You're a private organization.

00:34:07.180 The students at that point, you know, who's covering them, basically?

00:34:10.980 Yeah, it is a private organization, totally funded through private donations, and local

00:34:18.580 communities, it's kind of a grassroots effort.

00:34:21.180 We provide the tools, but local communities come together, they form a committee, then they

00:34:25.380 form a board, and they find the teachers, but they host this program.

00:34:30.180 Families don't pay anything, students don't pay anything, schools don't pay anything.

00:34:34.280 The local community raises the money and provide the Bible education program for their local public

00:34:39.120 school students, again, during the school day.

00:34:43.760 So, they can pay during the school day.

00:34:46.020 And then, so, how do they find out?

00:34:47.620 So, let's say, let's say you're, you know, you're at, you're at a, you're at a school,

00:34:53.020 they hear about this, does someone have to get, do you have to get approval for the school board?

00:34:57.180 Is that the way it comes in?

00:34:59.120 Yeah, it varies from school to school, and it varies from state to state.

00:35:02.100 But we've outlined a 10-step process communities can follow.

00:35:05.500 So, first, communities gather signatures through our website, kind of a petitioning process.

00:35:10.200 You can find any school district on our website.

00:35:12.700 We like to see at least 50 signatures in a particular school district that says, yes,

00:35:17.100 we want this program in our community.

00:35:19.840 And then we walk them through a process of forming a steering committee, putting together

00:35:23.400 a plan.

00:35:24.460 And that plan is then taken to the public school.

00:35:27.760 And we have a conversation with them.

00:35:29.480 What would this look like in this community?

00:35:31.940 What grades would we serve?

00:35:33.160 What school buildings, where would we start?

00:35:35.560 When would we start?

00:35:36.620 And 93% of the time, the school agrees.

00:35:40.000 Over 90% of the time, the school says, yeah, let's try this.

00:35:42.840 And that's why today we're serving hundreds of schools, thousands of students, and we would

00:35:47.100 love to serve, really, every school district nationwide.

00:35:52.060 Now, this is incredible.

00:35:52.960 Throw out, what is it?

00:35:53.800 Is it lifewise.com?

00:35:56.100 Yeah, it's lifewise.org.

00:35:57.720 That's L-I-F-E-W-I-S-E dot org. 0.80

00:36:02.000 And again, you can find any school district in the nation.

00:36:05.680 And you can learn more.

00:36:07.900 You can watch videos.

00:36:08.780 You can see the curriculum.

00:36:09.620 But more than anything, we'd love for everyone to engage in their own community.

00:36:14.460 Well, this is so incredible.

00:36:16.120 How many states do you operate in now?

00:36:18.420 So today we are in 13 states.

00:36:22.560 We are in about 330 schools, but we're confirmed already for next year in 20 states, nearly

00:36:30.200 500 schools.

00:36:31.840 And that includes places where you would expect this to happen, you know, like rural Northwest

00:36:37.300 Ohio, where I'm from.

00:36:38.760 But it's also in some of the largest cities.

00:36:41.460 I mean, we're confirmed in Los Angeles, California for next year.

00:36:44.320 We're confirmed in Washington state, really all over.

00:36:49.120 Wait, wait, wait, wait.

00:36:49.740 You're in L.A.

00:36:50.980 You got to tell me that story.

00:36:53.120 Well, I mean, L.A., that's the thing.

00:36:55.940 The Supreme Court has ruled on this.

00:36:57.760 It is constitutional.

00:36:58.980 That's one of the best parts about it.

00:37:00.400 Sounds controversial, but it's really not.

00:37:03.140 It's not new.

00:37:03.860 It's decades old.

00:37:04.680 It's not controversial.

00:37:05.840 The law is very clear.

00:37:07.400 And so even in the state of California, they have a law on the books that's in line with

00:37:12.120 the Supreme Court ruling.

00:37:13.720 And so we had a team in L.A. that heard about LifeWise.

00:37:17.100 They came together, went to the public school, and the school said, sure, because the truth

00:37:21.480 is that school administrators know that the students are hurting.

00:37:26.360 They know that students need something in their lives.

00:37:28.900 And when the community comes and says, here's a legal way that we can come alongside the school,

00:37:33.880 serve students, invest in their lives, again, almost without exception, schools are saying,

00:37:38.560 let's do it.

00:37:39.040 And this is amazing.

00:37:42.420 Now, when you get schools that say that they want to do it, are you finding that, is it

00:37:48.860 more because of the strength of the program on its educational merits?

00:37:52.880 Is it because of the religious merits?

00:37:54.780 How does that usually go?

00:37:57.000 Yeah, well, the schools, they know that they have a crisis of character.

00:38:00.560 They know that behavior in the classroom is an issue.

00:38:02.940 They know that things like chronic absenteeism is an issue.

00:38:06.580 Decades of studies show that students that have religious education in their lives, they

00:38:12.920 excel in academics, they excel in behavior.

00:38:16.660 And now we have independent studies that we can show to schools that say, hey, look, here's

00:38:21.080 a third-party independent study that shows when LifeWise, our organization is introduced

00:38:25.460 into a school, attendance goes up significantly.

00:38:29.260 In-school and out-of-school suspensions go down.

00:38:31.860 Again, we explain that the school doesn't have to pay anything.

00:38:35.160 When they hear these stats, they know it's going to serve the school.

00:38:40.180 And so just the merits of, even if they're not Christians, just the merits of the behavioral 0.80

00:38:44.340 improvements that they'll see, they're excited.

00:38:48.800 And that's huge.

00:38:49.840 That's absolutely huge.

00:38:51.880 What about the time frame of that?

00:38:53.660 So you've got to get, you know, obviously the students leave.

00:38:55.880 Is this like one class?

00:38:57.240 Is it a couple of classes, hour, a couple of hours?

00:38:59.700 How does that work?

00:39:00.200 Yeah, great question.

00:39:02.780 And I have little kids.

00:39:05.160 Yeah, well, we'd love to work with you in your community.

00:39:08.120 So the way it works is in the same way that elementary school students receive art class

00:39:12.880 once a week and music class once a week.

00:39:15.660 These are often called specials.

00:39:17.420 Now they can receive a Bible class once a week.

00:39:19.580 And so we work with the school to incorporate it into the schedule so that one or two class

00:39:24.780 rooms at a time tend to be released.

00:39:27.940 And we have volunteers that either pick them up in one of our large, you know, red buses.

00:39:32.900 We have over a hundred of those now.

00:39:34.880 They'll bus them down the road or they'll walk them across the street if there's a church

00:39:38.960 across the street.

00:39:39.720 And so each student on a rotation can attend life-wise one time per week.

00:39:47.240 And that's incredible.

00:39:48.700 So is the red buses?

00:39:50.140 That's an OSU thing, isn't it?

00:39:51.460 Well, I did get a chance to play for the Buckeyes back in the day, played a little defensive

00:39:59.320 line.

00:39:59.940 And I don't know, maybe I'm partial to a red because of the Buckeyes.

00:40:03.120 But I think that the bright red, a bit of the gold, I think it speaks to the joy.

00:40:11.100 It speaks to the fun.

00:40:12.860 You know, kids see the big red bus coming and they get excited because they're going

00:40:15.880 to go hear about the most joyful and most exciting story ever told, the story of Jesus.

00:40:21.460 Amen.

00:40:22.260 I mean, and you have to admit as well, of course, obviously the classic school bus color is

00:40:27.940 yellow.

00:40:28.680 So you want a color, number one, that's going to stand out.

00:40:31.260 That's why they chose yellow for school buses.

00:40:32.980 But with red, it stands out.

00:40:34.900 It's a primary color.

00:40:35.740 So you're going to get kids interested.

00:40:37.520 But then it's also something where kids say, hey, this is something a little bit, it's a

00:40:41.280 little bit different.

00:40:42.080 It's a little bit special.

00:40:43.880 And it's a way to do something, which is just incredible.

00:40:47.980 Can you hang on?

00:40:49.020 I'd love to hold you for another segment.

00:40:50.280 I'm so fascinated.

00:40:51.200 Absolutely.

00:40:52.180 Let's do it.

00:40:52.900 All right.

00:40:53.100 Joel Penton, it's lifewise.org.

00:40:56.100 I want everyone to go in all in on this.

00:40:58.420 This is amazing.

00:41:00.260 This is what I'm talking about, people.

00:41:02.640 A positive vision for how our future, our country should work.

00:41:08.400 Stay tuned.

00:41:08.680 We'll be right back.

00:41:10.060 The hidden tales of the communist history.

00:41:17.600 I want to know the truth.

00:41:19.240 What really went down?

00:41:20.820 So I'm jumping on my computer.

00:41:23.560 Go in the pre-order town.

00:41:25.460 Preferred in love, human.

00:41:28.240 I can't wait to get my hands on that book.

00:41:32.580 But I got a hankering.

00:41:37.420 Yearning deep inside.

00:41:39.420 For this book called Unhumans.

00:41:42.100 I just can't hide.

00:41:44.160 Till...

00:41:48.260 Jack, we're so back live.

00:41:49.780 Human Events Daily.

00:41:50.340 We're speaking to Joel Penton, who runs Lifewise Academy.

00:41:54.760 It's really causing a lot of consternation over with the folks at NBC and MSNBC.

00:42:01.380 Because what Joel Penton's offering is a way to actually bring prayer and the Bible back into schools.

00:42:12.500 But not into schools, maybe next to schools.

00:42:16.320 Getting it back to the students where it belongs.

00:42:20.140 Joel, tell me about some of the attacks that you guys have faced recently.

00:42:24.120 Well, since the beginning, you know, we are providing Bible education to public school students during school hours.

00:42:31.820 And certainly there's a segment of our society that just doesn't like that.

00:42:35.820 There are people who don't like the Bible.

00:42:38.020 They do not like the gospel.

00:42:39.160 And so they do not want it getting to public school students.

00:42:43.860 However, recently, I guess, you know, we're making enough of a stir.

00:42:47.140 And we have seen rapid expansion across the country.

00:42:50.760 We got the attention of NBC and MSNBC.

00:42:54.320 And so they contacted us.

00:42:56.140 They asked if they could send a whole film crew to Columbus, Ohio, where we are based, to tour some of our programs.

00:43:02.220 And we welcomed them in with open arms, assuming they were working up a hit piece.

00:43:06.820 And we were recently on NBC Nightly News.

00:43:10.300 And then, and which was fine.

00:43:12.300 The most comical thing, though, was MSNBC.

00:43:16.140 Because I honestly thought it was a Saturday Night Live sketch.

00:43:20.160 The way it was just a caricature.

00:43:23.680 And there was, the host was literally wringing her hands and saying it was distressing to learn that so many public school students are studying the Bible.

00:43:34.340 It was really something to behold.

00:43:35.540 And that just tells you everything right there.

00:43:39.180 That tells you not only the power of the Bible, but it tells you something about how MSNBC sees themselves.

00:43:45.100 They want to be, and we could have a much deeper conversation about this, but they want to be the moral judges of society.

00:43:54.900 And they do not like the idea that we go back to the old moral judge of society who was God and guided by our Christian moral code.

00:44:06.620 And this was the Christian moral code that up until about the 1960s was the basic set of morals everywhere in the United States for 250 years.

00:44:16.980 At this point, we, and I keep saying this, we were a Christian majority nation when we were founded.

00:44:21.920 We remain a Christian majority nation today.

00:44:24.260 We've always been a Christian majority nation.

00:44:27.700 The problem that they have is when people go from being passive Christians to active Christians.

00:44:35.360 Can you walk me through a little bit more?

00:44:37.060 Because, and I just want to reiterate this, that because it's, it's a, it's a, a very new concept, this idea that public school students could actually be receiving Bible education during school hours.

00:44:50.100 How is that legal?

00:44:51.800 Yeah, the great question.

00:44:53.300 So it's, it's new to nearly everybody.

00:44:56.820 It's fairly new to me.

00:44:57.880 I mean, I just learned about it several years ago, but the truth is in 1952, around the time Bible and prayer were being taken out of school,

00:45:04.840 there was a Supreme Court case called Zorak versus Clausen, where the Supreme Court ruled that public school students can be released from public school during the school day to receive religious instruction,

00:45:17.200 but it has to be off school property.

00:45:19.180 Can't be in the school, has to be privately funded, no state tax dollars, and has to, students have to have parental permission.

00:45:26.120 You can't force a kid to do this.

00:45:28.380 However, it just hasn't been utilized.

00:45:30.480 It's challenging to do because you got to find a place to do it.

00:45:32.900 You got to find transportation.

00:45:34.020 You got to figure out curriculum and funding, and that's why we exist.

00:45:37.600 In 2019, we started this program, LifeWise Academy, where we provide all the tools and systems and infrastructure so that any community in the country can hit the ground running,

00:45:49.220 can start a program to serve their local students, and oftentimes, we will have upwards of 50%, sometimes over 90% of the entire school will enroll in the program because it's during school hours.

00:46:03.520 Why wouldn't you want to leave school and study the Bible?

00:46:06.000 So we have huge participation.

00:46:07.100 That's one of the reasons NBC and MSNBC are kind of freaking out so much.

00:46:12.160 They came to Columbus, Ohio, and visited one of our inner city programs and saw that 50% of the entire school in the inner city is leaving during the day to go study the Bible,

00:46:23.700 and it causes them to stress.

00:46:29.180 Take up space.

00:46:31.280 Take up space.

00:46:32.500 This is something my good friend, Dr. Taylor Marshall, he's been saying that for years.

00:46:36.320 He was on here yesterday and saying that's exactly what you're doing.

00:46:38.760 You're taking up space.

00:46:40.440 Let me ask you, you know, kind of a personal question.

00:46:43.880 You knew this would be controversial when you got into it.

00:46:47.420 There's lots of other ways that you can go and do something with the Bible and start organizations.

00:46:53.740 You knew what you would be up against.

00:46:55.860 Why did you choose to make that fight anyway, specifically for school students?

00:47:01.340 Well, my life changed when I was a freshman in high school.

00:47:04.300 That's when I heard the gospel.

00:47:05.300 That's when my life changed and I was born again, and I know there's an ocean of kids out there who've not heard the gospel message,

00:47:15.860 who are not familiar with the Bible, and they need to be reached.

00:47:20.260 Somebody needs to take the message to them, and the controversy doesn't bother me at all.

00:47:24.740 Like I said, I played college football, so confrontation is not something I shy away from.

00:47:29.900 And ever since I came to faith, I've wanted to preach the gospel in the places where people need it the most.

00:47:38.040 I mean, that's what's exciting.

00:47:39.680 Those are the people who need it.

00:47:41.240 And so I spent years traveling and speaking, and, you know, I received my fair share of hate just from being someone who would stand up and speak and share the Word of God.

00:47:51.500 But if you read your Bible, that's what you're going to expect.

00:47:54.620 I mean, Jesus says as much, and so who am I to shy away from this opportunity to share the Word of God with those who need it most?

00:48:03.520 Amen.

00:48:04.160 Hey, they have drag queens. 1.00

00:48:06.600 We have the king of kings.

00:48:08.540 Joel Penton, where can people go to get—you can use that as your slogan.

00:48:13.320 Maybe not, though.

00:48:16.080 Where can people go to follow this?

00:48:17.680 I really want everyone to go.

00:48:20.020 LifeWise Academy, this is an incredible organization.

00:48:22.600 I want to have you back on the show.

00:48:25.100 I need to do more with you guys.

00:48:26.640 This is incredible.

00:48:28.120 Where can people go to get involved, to support it?

00:48:30.380 And if they want something like this, because we've got a ton of people who listen, if they want this in their area, how can they do it?

00:48:36.400 Where do they go to get started?

00:48:38.280 No matter where you are, no matter who you are, you can get involved, even if that's simply signing your local, what we call community interest list, to voice your support, to say, we want this here.

00:48:49.340 You go to LifeWise.org, that's our website.

00:48:52.640 That's what's on the screen right now, LifeWise.org.

00:48:54.500 Click, find your school, and look up the school district, either where you live, where you work, where you worship, anywhere you have a vested interest, and add your name to the list.

00:49:04.080 You can find out if there's already a movement.

00:49:06.300 You can get plugged in.

00:49:07.540 We'd love to work with you.

00:49:10.080 LifeWise.org, LifeWise.org, absolutely solid.

00:49:14.860 Do the right thing.

00:49:17.480 We will not be defined by what we are against.

00:49:20.980 We will be defined by what we are for.

00:49:24.180 Ladies and gentlemen, as always, you have my permission to make a short.

Human Events Daily with Jack Posobiec - April 18, 2024

EPISODE 717： TRUMP JUROR SELECTION ERUPTS, LEFTISTS FOUND LYING TO JUDGE TO GET SEATED ON JURY

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