Human Events Daily with Jack Posobiec - April 22, 2024


EPISODE 719： THE TRIAL OF DONALD TRUMP HAS BEGUN


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Trump is on trial in a New York City courtroom for the first time in the United States, and it s a trial that comes directly from the top of the Democratic Party. Today s episode of Human Events Daily with Jack Posoe ( )!

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00:00:40.700 A commentator, international social media sensation, and former Navy intelligence veteran.
00:00:47.300 This is Human Events with your host, Jack Poso.
00:00:50.100 Deliver us from evil.
00:00:51.460 TikTok reiterates its free speech concerns over a bill that would ban the social media app in the U.S.
00:00:57.240 A bipartisan majority of the U.S. House of Representatives on Saturday voted in favor of a measure that would ban TikTok in the country if its Chinese owner, ByteDance, did not sell its stake within a year.
00:01:10.940 Today, classes moved online for students at Columbia.
00:01:13.800 The university president saying they'll give the Ivy League school a chance to consider next steps.
00:01:20.100 Pro-Palestine protests have rocked the campus.
00:01:23.020 Last week, more than 100 people were arrested after the school asked police to remove student protesters.
00:01:29.400 This morning, Speaker Johnson's job in jeopardy.
00:01:32.860 After the House passed a series of crucial funding bills in a rare Saturday session.
00:01:38.720 The House will be in order.
00:01:40.780 Among them, $60 billion to war-torn Ukraine in its fight against Russia.
00:01:46.600 $26 billion for Israel in its war against Hamas.
00:01:50.720 And $8 billion to Taiwan.
00:01:52.880 But hardline Republicans say they feel betrayed, accusing Johnson of prioritizing helping Ukraine over funding for the southern border.
00:02:02.980 Very grateful that Mike Johnson listened and came out, did the right thing.
00:02:10.240 Made his own decision.
00:02:11.100 Made his own decision.
00:02:12.000 A rush-up is issuing fresh warnings to the United States over its continued support for Ukraine.
00:02:17.420 Yesterday, the Kremlin said the Ukraine aid package that was passed by the House will turn into a, quote,
00:02:23.360 a loud and humiliating fiasco for United States, such as Vietnam and Afghanistan. 0.83
00:02:28.860 Winning statements are underway in a New York City courtroom in the hush money trial of former President Donald Trump.
00:02:34.640 Former president saying once again the trial is election interference.
00:02:38.180 These are all Biden trials.
00:02:40.440 This is done as election interference.
00:02:42.800 Everybody knows it.
00:02:44.040 I'm here instead of being able to be in Pennsylvania and Georgia and lots of other places campaigning.
00:02:51.080 Ladies and gentlemen, welcome aboard today's edition of Human Events Daily here live, Washington, D.C.
00:02:57.100 Today is April 22nd, 2024.
00:02:59.700 Anno Domini.
00:03:00.720 The trial of Donald Trump, the president of the United States, and the leading candidate to be the next president of the United States currently on trial.
00:03:13.380 The first time this has ever happened in U.S. history.
00:03:16.980 The first time and the only time that we've ever had a leading candidate on trial by the opposition party who's trying him.
00:03:27.020 And I tweeted this out earlier today during the trial itself, and this is very clear.
00:03:33.620 The leader of this trial, the face of this trial, the man who gave the actual opening statement,
00:03:41.080 because we weren't sure who exactly it would be from Bragg's office,
00:03:44.460 a name that will be no stranger to the people of this audience.
00:03:48.740 Matthew Colangelo was chosen by Bragg, by Bragg, to deliver the opening statement in the Trump prosecution.
00:03:56.900 This is a direct signal that the case against Trump comes straight from the Biden administration.
00:04:03.760 Matthew Colangelo was a deputy of Merrick Garland.
00:04:08.860 Merrick Garland is the Department of Justice's attorney general.
00:04:14.960 He's part of Biden's cabinet.
00:04:16.860 So Merrick Garland's former deputy is delivering the opening argument in the trial against Donald Trump
00:04:24.900 in New York City at the city level, the municipal level, in the middle of an election year.
00:04:31.580 No, no, cut the crap.
00:04:35.720 Cut the poppycock, okay?
00:04:38.640 This is a trial that comes directly from the top.
00:04:42.940 Biden's saying this guy is going up too much in the polls.
00:04:45.840 I want him out.
00:04:48.400 I want him on ice throughout the key portion of the election.
00:04:53.720 Remember, the primaries were supposed to be full in swing right now.
00:04:57.940 This was the establishment and Uniparty's initial plan.
00:05:01.460 The only problem was President Trump defeated their plan and beat the primary before the trial could get started.
00:05:07.900 Now, interestingly enough, Matthew Colangelo has accused Trump of election fraud.
00:05:14.340 This is what they're hanging the case on, election fraud.
00:05:17.940 The Democrats are putting Trump on trial for election fraud because they can claim,
00:05:23.040 they want to claim, that the 2016 election was stolen.
00:05:26.720 That's what they've always believed.
00:05:28.940 And they have the entire force of the state behind them.
00:05:31.820 So remember, you go to jail if you're an election denier for 2020.
00:05:37.660 But President Trump, who won the free and fair election of 2016, is now on trial for election fraud.
00:05:49.220 They accuse you of that which they are doing themselves.
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00:08:20.860 Now, here was Trump's response, Trump's lawyer's response, to Matthew Colangelo
00:08:26.160 that I just described in the last segment here, the opening, my opening.
00:08:29.980 Trump's lawyers blasted Stormy Daniels and said that this was a scheme to extort a multibillionaire
00:08:37.440 who was running for president and that she and her lawyer, Michael Avenatti,
00:08:41.900 were blackmailing him into negotiating the settlement so that she would not spread false
00:08:48.280 claims about him.
00:08:49.200 Now, understand, the underlying activity that is said to have happened here happened all
00:08:54.640 the way back in 2006.
00:08:56.600 It was 2006 when Trump met Stormy Daniels.
00:08:59.600 No one disagrees about that.
00:09:00.580 They do disagree about what happened.
00:09:02.540 This was a full decade before the 2016 election.
00:09:06.380 This is why Stormy Daniels and Avenatti waited so long to blackmail Trump.
00:09:12.260 And it was nearly two decades, of course, before today's day in trial.
00:09:18.100 Darren Beattie of Revolver News joins us now.
00:09:20.140 Darren, as we're looking at this, it's interesting that, you know, the people like the Maggie Habermans
00:09:26.720 of the world and the Olivia Nuzzies are in there just on bated breath. 0.99
00:09:31.400 We got him.
00:09:32.400 We finally got him.
00:09:33.720 Talk to me, because I've been describing sort of the overall view and the outside view that
00:09:39.460 I think there's a lot of people saying with everything going on in the world, this is,
00:09:42.860 you know, this is what we're really going on.
00:09:44.820 But talk to me about the Maggie Haberman and Olivia Nuzzie fangirls out there who have been 0.99
00:09:52.380 salivating over this for a decade.
00:09:57.940 Well, I guess they follow a long tradition of repulsive and I guess in this case, ideologically
00:10:06.340 disease-ridden groupies of a political sort.
00:10:11.360 And I say that with no insult to the actual musical groupies who I considered a substantial
00:10:17.900 cut above this variety that we're speaking of now.
00:10:21.580 And you've seen various iterations of this.
00:10:24.060 You've seen it with, there was a thing with Comey.
00:10:28.800 You had all of these like middle-aged, you know, leftist hag types fangirl over Comey. 1.00
00:10:37.060 You saw it, incidentally, with Avenatti, but I guess they've changed their tune because
00:10:41.660 even Avenatti is from prison, basically, expressing support for Trump and Trump's position.
00:10:49.140 So this is yet another kind of doomed obsession that really just plummets to a new level of
00:10:58.140 pathetic display for these people.
00:11:01.260 And grading on their curve, it's saying a lot.
00:11:05.920 How can, how many times can we remind ourselves how fundamentally stupid this whole procedure
00:11:12.320 is?
00:11:12.820 How fundamentally stupid these charges are?
00:11:16.060 Even if the charges are true, which they're not, it's still stupid and irrelevant.
00:11:21.200 But on top of that, it's not even true.
00:11:23.480 It's not true across multiple dimensions of the case.
00:11:27.240 It's not, you know, the whole move to make it a felony, total farce.
00:11:33.820 The whole idea that the payments themselves should be illegal.
00:11:38.180 Are payments at all illegal?
00:11:40.500 Or should he have done it from the campaign funds?
00:11:43.280 Should he done it from private funds?
00:11:45.940 I mean, this point has been done to death, but no matter how he made the payment, they
00:11:49.260 find some way to say, oh, you did it with campaign funds.
00:11:51.500 That's a violation.
00:11:52.200 You did it with private funds.
00:11:53.280 That's a violation.
00:11:54.100 My understanding is this had nothing to do with political concerns whatsoever.
00:11:59.440 It was all a personal thing.
00:12:00.540 So why shouldn't it be done with personal funds?
00:12:03.620 But, you know, we, I think because we do this to death, we want to find, we want to get
00:12:09.840 into the intricacies of the case.
00:12:11.940 And that's fine.
00:12:12.740 And the intricacies, some are interesting in a way, but we should never lose sight of the
00:12:18.640 fact of how fundamentally stupid this is in the first place.
00:12:25.340 The idea that they're tying up a front runner for president, presumptive front runner, all
00:12:33.200 the polls suggest he's going to be ahead of Biden.
00:12:36.960 He's certainly going to get the nomination.
00:12:39.780 And they're tying him up in this stupid kangaroo court process over something that nobody cares
00:12:46.280 about.
00:12:46.680 And you say, well, the left cares about it.
00:12:48.780 They care about it because they hate Trump.
00:12:50.380 They don't care about it because there's any objective sense that the underlying charges
00:12:54.740 are meaningful or substantial.
00:12:57.460 It's simply stupid.
00:13:00.900 And the fact that this is going on in the country for such a high stakes election in such a high
00:13:06.140 stakes time reflects the fact that our country has become stupid.
00:13:10.280 It's an embarrassment to the whole country that this is happening in the first place.
00:13:15.540 And it's an embarrassment to us that we're in a position that we have to talk about it.
00:13:19.740 We can't not talk about it, but it still somehow diminishes us even to talk about it.
00:13:25.040 That's how dumb it is.
00:13:26.720 Well, Darren, I'll put it this way.
00:13:29.320 The fact of the matter is that this individual, Matthew Colangelo, who goes all the way from
00:13:36.880 Merrick Garland's office, he's a deputy to Merrick Garland, and then takes this seeming
00:13:43.360 demotion, right?
00:13:44.480 There's a massive pay cut.
00:13:46.220 Who's ever moved from the head of the Department of Justice, he's like a division head up there,
00:13:51.060 all the way back down to the Manhattan civil court, criminal court.
00:13:56.640 What lawyer worth his salt working his way up the ladder, which is the way they see it,
00:14:01.060 would ever do such a thing?
00:14:03.080 No, it's very clear to me that what we're actually witnessing is a full mask off moment
00:14:09.360 of the machinations of the regime itself to go after the one man that they've been wanting
00:14:15.720 to put in that defendant's box for over a decade at this point.
00:14:22.300 Absolutely.
00:14:23.540 And this, you know, unfortunately, it looks like this is just a new feature of the political
00:14:28.660 campaign process.
00:14:29.920 Of course, it's going to remain asymmetrical.
00:14:31.800 It's hard to imagine, you know, Republicans doing it.
00:14:35.120 We don't have the lawfare infrastructure.
00:14:37.220 We don't have the killers in the legal field. 0.82
00:14:39.380 In fact, the conservative legal establishment, I hate to say it, they're the weakest of the
00:14:43.100 whole bunch.
00:14:44.020 We think the congressional Republicans are weak.
00:14:47.380 We think the senators are weak with precious few exceptions.
00:14:50.900 Wait till you see the people who are, you know, conservative lawyers, even the people
00:14:55.080 come up through the Federalist Society.
00:14:56.740 There are precious few exceptions to that.
00:14:59.640 This is the most risk averse and domesticated faction of the entire right. 1.00
00:15:04.760 And this is saying a lot.
00:15:06.140 And are we going to have a kind of commensurate response to this?
00:15:10.740 Of course not.
00:15:11.660 Not anytime soon.
00:15:13.300 And this is the new feature.
00:15:14.960 This is the precedent.
00:15:16.420 And of course, it might not even be a precedent because Donald Trump might be the last guy who
00:15:20.160 actually threatens the regime.
00:15:21.680 We'd be lucky if they try it again.
00:15:23.620 I'll throw it.
00:15:25.880 The commensurate response is you'll get like, you'll get one of these AGs to it.
00:15:31.580 It's not commensurate.
00:15:32.120 But the response we get is one of the Republican AGs will get like, like one email from Dr.
00:15:37.140 Fauci that was sent four or five years ago.
00:15:39.540 And they'll say, aha, aha, we've caught them.
00:15:42.500 Look, we, we got his email.
00:15:44.320 Okay.
00:15:44.720 Dr. Fauci has never faced any justice.
00:15:47.080 Dr. Fauci doesn't even have anyone, any law.
00:15:49.400 I said this to Dr.
00:15:50.100 Drew.
00:15:50.220 I said, you care so much about Dr.
00:15:51.420 Fauci.
00:15:51.620 How come nobody sued the guy personally?
00:15:53.800 You'll get like some email from him.
00:15:55.720 That was years ago.
00:15:57.000 It was powerful years ago when he was writing the email in secret.
00:16:01.380 Nobody, he's, he's still walking away scot-free with all of his money, with all of his millions,
00:16:05.920 with all of his, his stock portfolio.
00:16:07.660 And you're acting like this is some big win.
00:16:10.100 Like, oh, we've caught that.
00:16:11.300 I said the same thing to Elon Musk about the Twitter files.
00:16:14.160 It's great.
00:16:14.620 It's all well and good that we found out about how the powerful did their work behind the
00:16:19.460 scenes years ago, but we're not doing anything to check their power now.
00:16:25.080 Two minutes, Darren Beattie.
00:16:26.940 Indeed.
00:16:27.600 And that reflects, I think, a general dynamic of the situation we're in is that we're actually
00:16:33.000 in a time of maximum awareness.
00:16:36.040 I think over the course of the past three years, maybe four years, and I'll say thanks to Revolver,
00:16:43.000 thanks to the great work you're doing and a handful of others, the public largely knows
00:16:50.560 not only the specific violations of the regime, but the general contours of our political landscape.
00:16:57.000 Um, but it's one thing to be educated and aware, and it's another to have the will and
00:17:04.540 the mechanism and the infrastructure to translate that knowledge into implementation, into an
00:17:12.120 effective response to one's understanding of what's going on.
00:17:15.500 And in that dimension, we're woefully, um, unprepared and behind.
00:17:22.400 And so we all kind of know all this horrible stuff going on, ridiculous stuff going on, corrupt
00:17:28.200 stuff going on.
00:17:29.940 And, you know, we can talk about it.
00:17:32.400 And to some extent here or there at the periphery, we can do some things, but there's nothing resembling
00:17:37.480 this, this legal infrastructure that the left has that they're bringing to bear the full
00:17:42.980 weight of this legal infrastructure to bear in this election cycle.
00:17:46.580 This is the extracurricular approach to winning the election because they understand how disadvantaged
00:17:52.340 they are, um, from the electoral retail standpoint.
00:17:56.680 I've always said it's a two-pronged approach, lawfare plus ginning up the pro-life, the pro,
00:18:03.940 uh, pro-choice base, um, on the left.
00:18:06.940 The abortion army, the abortion army is marching in lockstep with the Theron BD is exactly dialed 0.96
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00:19:55.840 You know, Darren, you're talking about the legal infrastructure.
00:19:58.560 And I point out that even in states like Georgia, where you've got this, the insane corruption
00:20:03.740 of Fannie Willis, that Mike Roman, who is in his personal capacity, a private investigator,
00:20:10.020 his job is pulling up opposition research.
00:20:12.720 He's a master of those dark arts out of the Philly area.
00:20:15.400 Not that I would know anyone like that.
00:20:17.380 And even then, the Republican Attorney General of Georgia didn't move against Fannie Willis
00:20:26.640 in the face of clear-cut corruption.
00:20:29.680 So in some cases, it's a political dimension.
00:20:32.020 In some cases, it's a willingness or unwillingness to act.
00:20:35.340 But the fact of the matter remains that, and I had somebody ask me over the weekend, they
00:20:38.840 said, are there any, I said, are there any, any AGs out there with a pair of balls?
00:20:45.400 And I said, yeah, Letitia James, right?
00:20:48.000 Letitia James will just go all the way to the wall with everything. 1.00
00:20:52.100 This is, but this is key, Darren.
00:20:53.920 And I explained this for our, our viewers out there.
00:20:57.580 Why is it that we, when we see Republic or see Democrats acting with impunity, the Republican
00:21:03.340 response is so flaccid?
00:21:07.260 Well, I mean, it's a combination of things, will and infrastructure.
00:21:11.000 There's not a lot of will because a lot of conservative leaders and elected officials
00:21:16.120 just happen to be weak people, not really in the fight, not playing for keeps, not operating
00:21:23.440 at the highest stakes level of politics, playing for all the marbles.
00:21:28.060 That's manifestly true.
00:21:30.680 But also for the, you know, there are people, there are exceptions to that, but there's minimal
00:21:35.600 infrastructure to make this happen.
00:21:37.320 That's why I was talking about sort of the conservative legal infrastructure that's coming
00:21:43.020 out of the federal society.
00:21:44.420 And of course, there are some wins there, but this is not a team of warriors.
00:21:50.440 There's not an elite team of conservative legal professionals who are capable of mounting a
00:21:57.740 robust response to the lawfare assault that's been underway by the left aggressively.
00:22:04.380 So now for several years.
00:22:06.960 So the infrastructure part is another thing.
00:22:09.600 And the two go together with more infrastructure.
00:22:11.760 There is, I think the more people would be willing to step up.
00:22:15.260 But there's neither at the moment infrastructure properly understood or a critical mass of people
00:22:23.060 who are willing to step outside of the playpen.
00:22:26.180 And play the high stakes game that the left has been willing to play and unfortunately has
00:22:32.000 been winning for quite some time.
00:22:34.020 Well, and I'll just throw one out there because, you know, we haven't talked about it as much
00:22:37.740 yet, but it was over the weekend that Speaker Johnson, Speaker Johnson, the Christian nationalist,
00:22:44.400 the hard right speaker that the New York Times assured us was Trump's pick all the way
00:22:50.520 back in October of 2023.
00:22:53.780 So everybody remembers the story.
00:22:55.380 Kevin McCarthy was the speaker.
00:22:57.080 He gets the boot.
00:22:58.620 Mike Johnson comes in as this sort of consensus speaker.
00:23:01.160 Um, and he promises us again and again that the, that the, uh, that the Ukraine bill and the
00:23:08.940 foreign aid bill and tick tock and all the rest of it will never be passed until the border
00:23:13.340 is secured.
00:23:13.960 And then something magical happens, Darren.
00:23:16.680 He goes into the skiff and he receives the Intel briefing inside the skiff, which I always
00:23:24.360 have to laugh about because I've, I spent so much of my career working in skiffs.
00:23:28.400 And like, I've, I've read all that stuff every day, eight hours a day, sometimes 14 hours
00:23:33.900 a day, depending on the shift or whatever we're doing.
00:23:35.700 Um, but, but suddenly he, he has this conversion to Damascus and comes out and says, you know,
00:23:41.200 all those things I stood for were completely wrong.
00:23:44.360 And you know what?
00:23:45.440 Turns out the CIA was right all along.
00:23:48.900 Darren, what are we to make of such things?
00:23:52.120 Well, I mean, it's not a huge surprise.
00:23:55.140 You know, you see pictures of Johnson.
00:23:57.620 It's not a surprise that he's a weak pushover.
00:24:01.560 He looks the part.
00:24:02.920 He looks the part of a Republican elected official.
00:24:06.500 He's, he's a GOP or he's a conservative.
00:24:09.380 He's, uh, you know, he's a proud conservative and he probably stands for the constitution
00:24:15.320 too, you know, except when he goes into skip, then he can forget about it for a moment.
00:24:20.660 But yeah, no, we've seen this archetype for a long time.
00:24:23.360 This was par for the course.
00:24:25.700 This is the default prior to Trump.
00:24:28.620 If you want to know what politics looks like without Trump, study the face, study the weak,
00:24:37.100 sad face of Michael Johnson.
00:24:40.580 OK, study that weak, sad face.
00:24:43.880 That's that's politics.
00:24:46.540 Without Trump, that's conservatism without Trump.
00:24:51.040 It is pathetic and it is hideously uncharismatic and it is inexcusably weak.
00:25:01.120 And so that's what we saw.
00:25:02.800 But again, I think we got to not get caught up in this pretense that he can be replaced
00:25:08.220 by anyone great.
00:25:09.180 Like, I'm all for just punishing him and replacing him just because why not?
00:25:13.160 It's a display of some degree of power.
00:25:15.760 It's a gesture of some sort.
00:25:17.820 But these guys all suck.
00:25:20.900 They all suck.
00:25:22.500 You know, that's why people are saying, oh, you know, this shows all the people got rid
00:25:26.800 of McCarthy.
00:25:27.600 They were misguided all along.
00:25:29.100 No, it was great getting rid of McCarthy because he sucked and he deserved to be punished a little
00:25:33.640 bit.
00:25:34.300 But let's not delude ourselves into thinking that Johnson's going to be any better.
00:25:39.260 These people all suck.
00:25:41.720 That is the rule.
00:25:42.980 Don't get it twisted.
00:25:44.040 Don't delude yourselves.
00:25:45.880 Don't drink the Kool-Aid.
00:25:47.620 They all suck.
00:25:50.020 Over the weekend, you know, my phone was burning up, actually yesterday specifically, over some
00:25:56.780 of this.
00:25:57.340 And I said, you know, this is what it is to me, right?
00:26:00.680 It's Johnson goes in, he gets skiffed.
00:26:03.640 And we had Mike Benz on here on Friday and we said he got blobbed.
00:26:08.220 And it's the same kind of idea.
00:26:09.640 But the real difference is, is that that is the norm, is that that's the norm.
00:26:15.240 We shouldn't be surprised.
00:26:16.200 The only reason that we are shocked at something like this is now.
00:26:20.100 Look at that face.
00:26:20.920 Look at that hair.
00:26:22.340 The hair.
00:26:23.120 It reminds me.
00:26:24.180 Who is the weekly standard guy who has the same hair?
00:26:27.780 He's another idiot.
00:26:29.220 No, Stephen Hayes.
00:26:30.980 I think it's Stephen Hayes.
00:26:32.280 Yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:26:32.860 He has that same hair.
00:26:33.660 The swoosh.
00:26:35.220 It's like the Nike swoosh.
00:26:37.360 Well, I guess I would say, though, is it's that starting in 2016 and really going all
00:26:42.380 the way back to 2015, that's when Donald Trump showed up on the scene and he gave people
00:26:47.360 a taste of what someone who was willing to simply say no is.
00:26:53.420 They got a taste of an actual, serious, populist candidate and then president who was willing
00:27:02.140 to walk up to these people and say, I don't care about Afghanistan.
00:27:06.800 I don't care about these, shall we say, not nice countries.
00:27:11.500 And we don't we shouldn't be flooding our country with people from the not nice countries. 1.00
00:27:16.780 We should be asking for people from the nice countries.
00:27:20.120 And was willing to just kind of look these these intel officials in the eye and say, you're
00:27:26.340 full of crap.
00:27:28.240 And this isn't a court.
00:27:29.400 Now, and by the way, Barack Obama used to say stuff like this, too.
00:27:32.320 Every once in a while, he would come before you embarked on his, you know, drone strike
00:27:35.680 campaigns is that he would in particular in Waziristan Valley of Pakistan, of which I know
00:27:42.000 you're well acquainted, that he would say this isn't in America's core interest.
00:27:47.680 It's in Russia's core interest.
00:27:48.780 Why should we bother with this?
00:27:50.720 Why should we bother with this?
00:27:52.740 Right.
00:27:53.280 And people would not think that Barack Obama and Donald Trump would have the same stance
00:27:58.620 on certain things.
00:27:59.900 And there were these statements every once in a while.
00:28:02.280 Now, Obama largely outsources foreign policies, the likes of Hillary Clinton and Victoria Nuland
00:28:08.060 and others.
00:28:08.600 But he did still say some things like this, which do kind of align with Trump, where it's
00:28:13.860 simply that I don't care.
00:28:15.360 Now, the difference, of course, that Obama went fully along with the SCIF briefing, went
00:28:22.020 along with the national security state.
00:28:24.360 And look, Chuck Schumer warned us.
00:28:26.600 Chuck Schumer not only warned us, he predicted what would have he told you point blank on Rachel
00:28:31.820 Maddow all the way back in 2017.
00:28:33.540 If you go after the intel community, they've got six ways from Sunday from coming back at
00:28:38.120 you.
00:28:38.920 Every single thing we've seen since then up to and to today.
00:28:42.500 Right.
00:28:42.960 Donald Trump being on trial is the opposite of what happens when you don't do what Mike
00:28:48.760 Johnson just did.
00:28:50.320 But, you know, the sad and pathetic thing about all of this is, oh, all, you know, the intelligence
00:28:56.160 community.
00:28:56.940 Yeah.
00:28:57.100 They got Mike Johnson, you know, a gelding like Johnson and nothing like Johnson.
00:29:02.880 You know, to imagine the intel community feeling proud of controlling somebody that small, that
00:29:14.800 insignificant, that weak.
00:29:18.880 What do they have to show for it?
00:29:21.080 They're getting all of these packages.
00:29:22.640 And of course, they're conferring fabulous wealth on oligarchs in Ukraine and oligarchs
00:29:31.100 in the United States and defense contractors in the United States.
00:29:34.240 But when you look at the chessboard, they're losing.
00:29:38.100 We just saw in Niger.
00:29:41.360 Better be careful to pronounce that properly.
00:29:44.380 We just saw in Niger.
00:29:46.660 We're out.
00:29:47.600 Russia's in. 0.95
00:29:49.240 It's a huge scandal.
00:29:50.680 Nobody's talking about.
00:29:51.640 I think Matt Gaetz is talking about it.
00:29:53.380 One of the only ones.
00:29:55.900 Huge strategic disadvantage in Africa.
00:29:59.480 And it looks like, according to recent assessments, all this new money isn't going to fundamentally
00:30:05.760 change the strategic situation in Ukraine.
00:30:08.740 And Russia's coming out ahead. 0.55
00:30:10.740 So I think the whole conflict with Russia, the whole proxy conflict, is incredibly stupid
00:30:15.700 and misguided, an incredible waste of money and so forth.
00:30:18.720 But if they're going to waste all the money, at least win.
00:30:22.940 And they can't even do that.
00:30:24.660 They can't outmaneuver somebody like Putin.
00:30:27.380 They can only outmaneuver Mike Johnson.
00:30:29.640 That's their competition at this point.
00:30:32.180 They give their they're going to go into their offices.
00:30:34.560 We got him.
00:30:36.460 We got him.
00:30:37.560 We must be James Bond, just like Hollywood tells us.
00:30:41.560 Because we can outsmart.
00:30:42.460 Just like Amazon Prime and John Kaczynski.
00:30:45.980 Quick break.
00:30:46.780 Right back there.
00:30:47.240 I want to know the truth.
00:30:51.380 What really went down.
00:30:52.980 So I'm jumping on my computer.
00:30:55.720 Going to pre-order town.
00:30:58.800 Pre-order in life.
00:31:00.540 You have.
00:31:01.800 Can't wait to get my hands on that book.
00:31:04.940 Gonna dive into his pages.
00:31:07.580 Take a closer look.
00:31:09.460 From the Russian Revolution.
00:31:12.520 To the playwright scale.
00:31:14.240 All right, Jack Posobiec.
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00:32:19.440 I want to go, guys.
00:32:20.460 Do we have that footage out of the campus?
00:32:22.560 Do we have that?
00:32:23.080 Because what we're seeing, folks, out of these campuses, Gaza camps operating all over the place. 1.00
00:32:35.940 These new levels.
00:32:38.560 It's almost like a CHAZ meets BLM meets Occupy, but with a Gaza flavor kicking off. 0.85
00:32:45.480 Darren Beattie, you warned about the rise of these types of groups on campus recently, but you also warned at the same time that there was a knee-jerk response to banning them outright that is actually very dangerous.
00:33:02.280 Walk us through what's going on, because I think that what we're seeing right now with this Occupy movement, in some cases sort of a renewed Gaza camp situation, it's going to lead to renewed resurgence in support for those types of policies, for banning them outright, and a lot of pressure for administrators to do so.
00:33:23.220 Indeed, it does seem like some of the things we discussed in an earlier segment have come to pass here, and even intensified.
00:33:35.480 And first of all, just looking at these things, I find it a repulsive spectacle.
00:33:40.640 There's something about, as I mentioned, the DNA of all sort of left-wing activism and mobilization.
00:33:47.960 It's really the same across the board, and you see it express itself in similar ways.
00:33:54.420 This is no exception.
00:33:56.860 And justifiably, there is some movement and some energy on the right to pressure universities to address this.
00:34:04.880 And I think that pressure needs to observe a really critical distinction that we discussed before, and that is any kind of violent speech, threats.
00:34:17.340 That means direct threats, not this stochastic terrorism scam where someone feels uncomfortable that someone might act on the basis of offensive speech.
00:34:30.020 Direct threats, and of course, disruptive behavior.
00:34:34.380 There should be a zero-tolerance policy for this across the board at universities.
00:34:40.100 And to the extent that there's leverage and interest and enthusiasm on the right to pressure universities in the wake of these resurgent protests, it should be singularly focused on that for the following reasons.
00:34:53.180 Again, disruption is part of the DNA of left-wing activist protests.
00:34:58.520 By adopting a zero-tolerance policy to disruption and violence, you're addressing the problem at its root where the problem actually is.
00:35:08.580 That being said, what we want to avoid is what I think is the easy but ultimately counterproductive solution that you're seeing out of some quarters, which is simply to say we need to slap on additional speech codes in order to accommodate the sensitivities of Jewish students or pro-Israel students.
00:35:31.460 And this is, of course, and this is, of course, misguided for obvious reasons.
00:35:34.380 First of all, we don't want to move in the direction of more speech restrictions.
00:35:39.800 But secondly, any kind of speech codes that are adopted will, of course, be used against what remaining conservative speech exists on campus, especially in a critical election year.
00:35:52.280 So it's just fundamentally misguided on a practical level and also in principle it's wrong because, again, if we believe anything we say about free speech and maximum accommodation of First Amendment protected speech, even if it's a campus speaker you don't like, what the left does, again, this is the DNA of it, is they disrupt when a conservative speaker goes there.
00:36:15.880 If it's Ann Coulter or if it's Charles Murray or if it's Charlie Kirk or recently, I think there was a case of Rittenhouse, no matter who it is, you go to campus, you're disrupted, that's what should be clamped down on.
00:36:31.140 That's zero tolerance.
00:36:32.500 But, of course, if these Palestinian activists, if they want to have their own speakers, if they're controversial and they're not interfering with other people, let them do it.
00:36:41.340 It's a university.
00:36:42.420 That should be allowed.
00:36:43.460 That's been what conservatives and free speech defenders have been saying for a long time.
00:36:48.820 So it would be a shame to succumb to a kind of short-term oriented hypocrisy in order to adopt new speech codes that ultimately won't help the problem in the first place.
00:37:01.060 So it's a simple distinction.
00:37:03.680 It is a critical distinction.
00:37:05.420 And it's a distinction where we get all of the benefit of clamping down on the disruption, not only by these Palestinian activists, by left-wing activists generally. 0.66
00:37:14.860 Because, again, they all do this, not, you know, the BLM types do it.
00:37:18.640 They all do it.
00:37:19.440 How great would it be for universities to adopt a truly zero tolerance policy?
00:37:24.580 If a conservative speaker is giving a talk and you disrupt it, automatic expulsion.
00:37:31.100 Wouldn't it be far better to have that than to embrace some kind of Pyrrhic victory in adopting a speech code so the Palestinians can invite whatever, you know, person they want to speak on their campus and similar such restrictions? 0.95
00:37:44.360 Okay, so walk me through this.
00:37:47.020 The idea is, and I get the first part, the idea is don't ban the group, say, just because a group has a belief that's controversial, that doesn't mean they should be banned under freedom of speech.
00:37:56.960 Got it.
00:37:57.720 But the second point you're talking about is ban disruptors, that when someone comes up and is being disruptive, now, that doesn't mean the entire group that they're associated with necessarily, but that person specifically, not just banned from participating in the event, but actually expel them from
00:38:14.340 I would say yes, and obviously, you know, in theory, there would be some kind of judgment involved.
00:38:20.680 But in these cases that you see where there's like active harassment or let's say, let's say there's a speaker who's giving a pro-Israel point of view and they go and they disrupt it so people can't hear the speech.
00:38:31.900 That kind of disruption that we've seen specifically impede the ability of conservatives to reach an audience on campus, that should face a zero-tolerance policy, anything resembling that.
00:38:45.060 And, of course, any violent speech.
00:38:47.240 But I need to qualify that by saying, because these days people say, oh, you said something that offended me, therefore I'm unsafe.
00:38:54.180 Your speech is violence, your speech is causing pain, your speech is causing harm.
00:39:01.400 Yeah, some of these self-appointed spokespeople like Talia Khan, who's kind of leading the charge, positioning herself as the new Barry Weiss, it seems some of the rhetoric coming from that direction seems like it's just a repeat of the same emotivism that we see from the left that does not serve our cause and our objectives well.
00:39:22.460 So as long as we keep the zero-tolerance policy focused specifically on violent threats and disruption, I think we're going to be in very good shape.
00:39:33.020 And the leverage that exists now, insofar as it exists to do something about the campus situation, will be well used.
00:39:40.220 I think that's a genius way of putting it, because it's very simple, and it would be easy for so many people to come up here and say, yeah, ban that group because they don't agree with me.
00:39:52.400 But then all of a sudden, what happens when the administrators turn around the next day and they say, oh, you're a member of Turning Point USA, or I see here that you're subscribed to Human Events Daily, you're subscribed to Revolver News, you listen to The War Room.
00:40:06.220 How much better to use that leverage so you go to talk at a university, Charlie Kirk goes to talk at a university, and someone dares to come up and try to grab the microphone, boom, you're gone from the university for good.
00:40:21.400 That's a much better deal.
00:40:22.460 How many times has this happened when there's been someone who bum-rushed the stage?
00:40:27.320 I've had it happen at events where someone's come up and tried to rush the stage, grab the mic, run over, any number of things that have been going on.
00:40:36.560 By the way, for years, for years to conservatives, and I can appreciate that people are all of a sudden saying, my goodness, by Jove, it seems as though something's going on at the universities.
00:40:48.740 I never noticed such a thing before, because it was only being done to those naughty, bad people, like those bad conservatives.
00:40:58.860 So we'll be right back.
00:41:00.020 Another fascinating segment.
00:41:02.140 Darren Beatty, right here on the break.
00:41:03.100 In the tales of the communist history
00:41:06.840 I want to know the truth, what really went down
00:41:12.040 So I'm jumping on my computer
00:41:14.560 Going to pre-order town
00:41:16.920 Far
00:41:18.540 But I got a hankering
00:41:20.760 Yearning deep inside
00:41:24.300 For this book called Unhumans
00:41:26.980 I just can't hide
00:41:29.040 A case that nobody wanted to bring, including Alvin Bragg
00:41:37.660 It was just at the last minute they decided to do it
00:41:41.000 It's a case that, if you're looking back, it goes back many, many years
00:41:46.480 2015, maybe before that
00:41:49.160 It's a case as to bookkeeping, which is a very minor thing in terms of the law, in terms of all the violent crime that's going on outside as we, as we speak, right outside as we speak, but this is a case where you pay a lawyer, who's a lawyer, and they call it a legal expense. That's the exact term they use, legal expense.
00:42:15.160 All right, there you have President Trump made the statement just outside the court today
00:42:22.120 Court was adjourned early today in the Trump trial
00:42:27.180 The first witness, I'm not even sure if they're done with the witness yet
00:42:30.620 This is David Pecker, who testified a little bit after noon
00:42:34.160 President Trump coming out and giving a statement
00:42:35.540 Darren, I got to tell you, though
00:42:36.840 We were just talking about how the Maggie Habermans and the Olivia Nuzzies, and I saw this clip, I guess, over on MSNBC right now
00:42:43.800 Rachel Maddow is up
00:42:46.200 Rachel Maddow was in the courtroom today of President Trump
00:42:50.760 She gets out of there
00:42:51.800 I mean, she looks flustered
00:42:53.560 It looked like she was buttoning her shirt up a little bit
00:42:56.120 The way she was standing, her shirt's kind of unbuttoned
00:42:58.840 And she's saying, I was there
00:43:00.160 I saw him come into the courtroom
00:43:04.840 He sat down, he was looking thinner
00:43:07.160 He was looking older
00:43:08.660 He was looking frustrated
00:43:10.420 You know, and she's just 1.00
00:43:12.700 She's flustered
00:43:13.860 She had an emotional response
00:43:16.460 Darren, walk me through this
00:43:18.600 Because this is something where, you know, these people that, you know, kind of outside of, you know, sort of our sphere of, you know, political, socio-media spectrum
00:43:30.220 You know, there is this other sliver of the Rachel Maddows who exist in this universe where Donald Trump is like their white whale 0.98
00:43:38.740 But it's also kind of like a, how should I say this?
00:43:42.940 Something that they think about later in the wee hours of the evening at the same time
00:43:47.920 That clearly you're seeing exhibited by Ms. Maddow right there
00:43:54.080 What's going on, man?
00:43:56.860 Well, again, a pathetic spectacle
00:43:59.200 A sad excuse for a groupie movement that expresses itself in this political domain
00:44:06.460 Again, we've seen it with Comey and Fauci
00:44:10.340 And these other just disgusting figures who have managed to amass a still more disgusting following
00:44:17.200 And in this case, it doesn't get any worse than Maddow
00:44:20.360 I mean, Maddow's whole career is an example of what happens when you fail your audition for Victor Victoria
00:44:26.960 So what more can be said about Maddow
00:44:30.940 Other than I guess she's feeling the thrill up her leg that Chris Matthews notoriously did with Obama
00:44:37.180 But I think it's a good sign
00:44:39.500 It's a positive indicator
00:44:40.840 Because every time these Maddow types start to get excited
00:44:44.000 Their deepest longings end up being frustrated
00:44:49.140 And I think that will be the case in this instance as well
00:44:53.720 For I think this will be an example where something fundamentally in this stupid in this country
00:45:00.240 Does not actually succeed
00:45:02.920 And that's kind of my little note of optimism there
00:45:07.340 Yeah, I'm really hoping that this is going to be one of those times where
00:45:12.580 You know, it's like
00:45:14.100 I remember there was a moment
00:45:16.340 I'll put it this way
00:45:17.040 It's like addicts refer to this as a moment of clarity
00:45:20.380 Where on MSNBC, the great, the wise and great and, you know, just wisdom and doubt
00:45:27.100 Individual Ari Melber had Michael Avenatti
00:45:30.360 Who, of course, is the biggest, you know, part of the trial
00:45:33.180 Who isn't going to be there because he's currently behind bars
00:45:35.060 The former lawyer to Stormy Daniels while this was going on
00:45:37.720 He comes out and calls into Ari Melber last week on MSNBC
00:45:43.160 And it starts dumping all over the case
00:45:47.280 It says, Ari, you guys should never have brought this case
00:45:49.960 You should not be celebrating this
00:45:51.900 This is a complete loser
00:45:53.420 It makes us all look terrible
00:45:55.420 It maybe made sense years ago
00:45:57.380 It's beyond the statute of limitations
00:45:58.920 And it's certainly not election fraud
00:46:01.760 So when you've even got the likes of Michael Avenatti
00:46:05.780 Coming forward and telling MSNBC
00:46:09.340 That they need to turn down the self-engorgement over this
00:46:15.920 You know, Darren, is that a good sign
00:46:18.100 That people in the middle
00:46:19.320 Or that people on the right
00:46:21.900 Actually could have some opening here to take the upper hand 0.98
00:46:24.920 I think it's a good sign
00:46:27.440 And again, the Avenatti issue shows that
00:46:30.880 You know, maybe he's looking at the polls
00:46:34.560 Maybe he's looking at the direction the race is going 0.84
00:46:37.680 And this is sort of his preemptive plea for a pardon
00:46:41.880 I think that goes without saying
00:46:44.580 Indicating that he has maybe a better political judgment
00:46:48.740 Than a lot of people
00:46:50.140 Including Rachel Maddow
00:46:52.780 Given that his expectation is Trump was going to be back in the White House
00:46:56.420 Or there's a good chance of that happening
00:46:58.260 But yeah, I think that this is the wrong
00:47:02.060 I would be a little bit more concerned
00:47:04.340 Maybe if the thing going on were the January 6th case
00:47:08.740 Because I think people might be more easily duped by it
00:47:12.320 It at least superficially carries more gravitas
00:47:16.900 Whereas I think a case like this
00:47:19.360 Is something that anyone who bothers to look into it
00:47:22.440 Or even casually hears about it
00:47:24.440 Understands how stupid the charges are
00:47:28.960 How trivial it is
00:47:30.080 How petty it actually is
00:47:32.820 And I think people are frankly embarrassed by it
00:47:35.940 And they should be
00:47:36.660 As should the country be embarrassed that this trial is going on
00:47:40.920 Couldn't be more embarrassed to be an American right now
00:47:47.000 I'll simply put it that way
00:47:48.420 Because of the way our government is acting
00:47:50.520 Because of the way that you have this
00:47:52.140 Very obviously an official who was like five minutes ago
00:47:58.060 Serving in the Biden administration is now delivering the opening argument
00:48:01.160 No, I'm sorry, this isn't a case of NYPD Blue
00:48:04.420 This isn't law and order
00:48:06.780 Okay, those are all TV shows
00:48:09.180 This is the real world
00:48:11.060 And in the real world
00:48:12.200 It is the left that has primacy
00:48:14.700 Among the legal infrastructure of America
00:48:17.480 Last minute to you, Darren Beatty
00:48:18.740 Absolutely, that's the case
00:48:21.560 And as I was saying in another segment
00:48:23.980 The reason that we can't respond in kind
00:48:27.400 It's a matter of will
00:48:29.080 It's a matter of infrastructure
00:48:31.060 We need to build up a lawfare infrastructure
00:48:35.320 Of legal killers
00:48:37.100 Who are willing and capable of doing a tit-for-tat here
00:48:41.240 And if that's going to be the new reality
00:48:43.560 At least it needs to be on both sides 1.00
00:48:45.720 Because I don't see this stopping
00:48:47.540 Unless politics after Trump is just a stooge
00:48:51.380 That's so compliant
00:48:52.580 It's not even worth using these extracurricular tactics against
00:48:56.820 Really, really interesting way to refer to Mike Johnson there, Darren Beatty
00:49:02.420 Ladies and gentlemen, as always
00:49:04.280 You have my permission to lay a short
00:49:05.740 I can't wait to get my hands on that
00:49:11.620 We're gonna dive into space