Human Events Daily with Jack Posobiec - EPISODE 722： ANTI-WHITE RACISM, CHRISTIAN LEADERS FOR SALE AND THE INDICTMENTS OF ARIZONA ELECTORS

00:00:00.000 hey folks i want to remind you that the turning point action people's conference is coming up

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00:00:23.020 this is what happens when the fourth turning meets fifth generation warfare

00:00:32.140 a commentator international social media sensation and former navy intelligence veteran

00:00:43.040 this is human events with your host jack persovic deliver us from breaking news the new york appeals

00:00:49.580 court overturns harvey weinstein's 2020 rape conviction from the landmark me too trial

00:00:56.380 the clock now ticking for tick tock to find a buyer or be banned in the u.s after president biden signed

00:01:02.180 into law a foreign aid package that includes a provision forcing the sale of the chinese-owned

00:01:06.560 company in the next nine months justices will soon hear arguments to decide if former president

00:01:12.120 donald trump has absolute immunity from criminal prosecution if a president doesn't have full

00:01:18.580 immunity you really don't have a president trump says oh that means you won't have a presidency

00:01:23.560 no you just need a president who doesn't commit crimes which isn't a hard thing to do when trump

00:01:29.460 claims absolute immunity here's what that means in plain english i donald trump can do anything i want

00:01:35.840 and the law even the criminal law can't touch me the gdp just announces all the way down to 1.6 percent

00:01:44.620 and it's heading south it's going to get worse energy costs are going way up and the stock market is

00:01:52.280 in a sense crashing the numbers are very bad this is bidenomics it's catching up with them

00:01:59.840 four more years

00:02:01.840 four more years

00:02:04.460 u.s.a. u.s.a. u.s.a.

00:02:08.620 every swing saved by a lot and we're leading the nation by a lot

00:02:12.340 he's the worst president in the history of our country he makes jimmy carter look great

00:02:17.140 arizona grand jury has indicted 11 of the so-called fake electors along with several other allies of

00:02:23.320 donald trump for their efforts to overturn the 2020 election a 58 page indictment

00:02:28.300 includes conspiracy fraud and forgery charges related to attempts by the defendants to change

00:02:34.540 the election results in donald trump's favor

00:02:36.640 what are they thinking will i can't i just can't

00:02:39.540 okay we are fraudulent electors we there's a fraud scheme going on here let's put the cameras on

00:02:49.220 ladies and gentlemen welcome aboard today's edition of human events daily we are live from budapest

00:02:56.260 budapest hungary that's right budapest hungary today is april 25th 2024 ano domini the fake

00:03:04.380 electors scheme the fake electors scheme they're going to be screaming about that all day long the

00:03:10.540 fake electors let me tell you something about this they're called alternate electors alternate

00:03:16.980 not fake alternate because you know why that's the legally allowable nomenclature to go in on when

00:03:26.360 there's a contested election and that's what was happening in 2020 was a perfectly legal process that

00:03:33.940 everybody was following they didn't just follow it in arizona this is also georgia this is also michigan

00:03:39.900 but then they come to arizona and they went and they indict tyler boyer not only is tyler boyer

00:03:46.720 one of us he's my friend he's the co-host on on thought crime let me tell you something i have a

00:03:56.600 message not for the left not for the cultural marxists not for the unhumans that are bringing

00:04:03.340 this indictment here's my message for the people who say that i'm fighting communism i'm gonna fight

00:04:09.820 communism very hard but don't you say anything mean don't you use any mean words don't be mean

00:04:16.420 don't be unfair are you joking right now why don't you people wake up and actually understand

00:04:22.720 what part of the movie we're in do you understand what time it is they are indicting people for legal

00:04:30.400 activity legal political activity people like tyler by the way who are running the largest chase vote

00:04:37.160 operations in the entire country for the ballots this is insane this is absolutely insane and they're

00:04:44.780 not fake electors i don't even know why people are saying fake electors should never say fake electors

00:04:49.780 i think fake about it in any way shape or form but my message is you people better start waking up

00:04:59.700 and learning that it's time to fight back you better start waking up and you better start waking

00:05:03.660 up right now and quite frankly if you're one of these people these moderates these independents or

00:05:10.600 these oh i'm i'm a centrist this okay fine that's fine i'm not saying you have to endorse uh you know

00:05:17.740 everything that goes on but i will say this it is time to put up or shut up this is gloves

00:05:27.080 gloves off territory and we're in gloves off territory now because you know what's going to

00:05:32.480 happen you're going to say oh i'm not going to fight back now because that would be too controversial

00:05:38.020 i'm not going to fight back now because i might get in trouble well guess what when they're done

00:05:44.060 knocking on everyone's door because they've already indicted them guess who's going to be getting the

00:05:49.760 knock on the door next you will no more quitters no more cowardice i'm sick of it fight back now or

00:05:59.260 we're all going down you're back i won't know what really went down so i'm jumping on my computer

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00:07:45.020 now to bring on our next guest something we've been talking about for a while here on the program

00:07:50.480 anti-white racism anti-white racism is something that's going on for a long time in the united

00:07:55.720 states but it used to be that if you talked about these things if you talked about this topic you

00:08:00.440 yourself was branded a racist that i would say the worm has turned on that one and now we're finally

00:08:07.640 getting a flurry of writings and people are even going back and re-looking at old writings that were

00:08:13.140 thrown to the wayside uh of the united states history and i'm not talking ancient history i'm talking

00:08:17.840 recent history all the way from the 1960s up a new book that is out by jeremy carl he is a senior

00:08:24.920 fellow at the fantastic claremont institute it's called the unprotected class and jeremy joins us

00:08:31.280 now jeremy how are you i'm great jack how are you thanks for having me on i'm excellent so tell me what

00:08:37.140 motivated you to want to write this book now well it was a little bit like i'd say the the story of

00:08:43.900 jove and that i didn't or rather not the story of jove but the story of jonah and that i didn't

00:08:47.240 really want to write it because for all the reasons you were just kind of alluding to right i mean

00:08:50.960 you get um you get a lot of grief right and so i sort of felt i prayed about it quite a bit you know

00:08:57.120 i kind of felt like uh god was telling me to go to nineveh and preach about this for a number of years

00:09:01.120 and i was like no actually i don't want to do that that sounds kind of hard so i moved to montana i

00:09:07.360 worked at a senior post in the trump administration in which uh some of my writings on this became

00:09:12.100 kind of higher profile and i got attacked by the washington post and others and i think i was

00:09:16.520 free free advertising of your writing yeah absolutely i mean not that it was secret right

00:09:23.060 i mean it was all under my own name i was proud of it but it just when you're a senior government

00:09:26.640 official it it sort of takes a little bit more uh notice so uh what i basically did is i i uh said you

00:09:34.940 know hey like i should just go write about this because uh it's an issue people care about it and um

00:09:40.980 you know i'm not gonna allow myself to uh be silenced and so i i kind of reluctantly went to

00:09:47.660 iniva i went and uh preached and that's uh kind of how we wound up with the book um and then i just

00:09:52.720 briefly note um you know like this was even two years ago when i started to write about this

00:10:00.100 it was much more taboo territory than it is now and that's thanks to you and and guys like tucker

00:10:05.820 carlson and matt walsh and charlie kirk who've been really bold about pushing on this issue and

00:10:11.600 and really uh getting it out in the mainstream so one of the one of the points that you mentioned

00:10:16.940 the book what are the the origins of anti-white racism what would you describe as where did this

00:10:22.280 get started this idea because we were the story that we're told and i might feed it to you a little

00:10:27.940 bit but the story that we're told is that america has been fighting racism since the civil rights act

00:10:33.240 and we get taught about martin luther king and uh you know the content of the character etc and

00:10:37.780 everyone says yeah that's great that's a wonderful standard so how do you go from that standard very

00:10:42.720 quickly to anti-white racism well i think that's a great question and that was something that i spent

00:10:48.600 a lot of time thinking about as i was writing this book because these sorts of ideas they don't spring

00:10:53.620 like athena fully armored from zeus's head just out of nowhere and ready for battle they have

00:10:59.780 gestations and they have reasons why they come into being um and what i kind of fundamentally think

00:11:05.500 is that this is one of the oldest questions in politics that really motivates it which is

00:11:10.400 essentially who controls resources and right now in our society uh white people you know despite uh

00:11:16.640 having gone down on the totem pole a little bit they still have a lot of resources um other groups

00:11:22.440 would like those resources or at least some members or leaders of other groups but in 2024 in america you

00:11:27.400 can't just come up to people and say hey give me your stuff you need to have what the sociologist

00:11:32.120 late sociologist c right mills called a legitimating ideology which means you have to have basically

00:11:37.080 an ideology says that says hey this is why it's okay and in fact good for me to take your stuff

00:11:42.300 and so you come up with things like white supremacy white privilege critical race theory sort of all

00:11:48.280 these things and talk about the kind of you know inevitable racist history of the united states

00:11:53.520 to say hey this is entirely justifiable uh that we're going to take your stuff and i think that's

00:11:58.400 really what's motivating you you know it's interesting too because you meant you mentioned

00:12:03.320 take your stuff and that is part and parcel of marxism um in in you know the communist manifesto

00:12:10.880 of course the abolition of private property is uh sort of the central religious tenet of marxism

00:12:16.540 in chinese maoism the actual word i always say this in the show but the word for communism in

00:12:22.220 mandarin is uh translates essentially to um collective ownership so this idea that all property

00:12:29.420 will be owned in a pool all property will own by a collective but we see how this works out in

00:12:34.160 in practice it's not that it's all owned by in in a pool it's that it goes from the people who have it

00:12:40.540 to the government to the corrupt class and there is one group of people that's always scapegoated

00:12:46.160 whenever one of these things comes in and of course in the united states we know which group that is

00:12:50.120 that group predominantly has been white people even if those white people weren't the ones who had the

00:12:56.160 most to begin with oh absolutely i mean white people to kind of use you gave a great chinese

00:13:01.320 analogy and i know you have a lot of experience in that part of the world you could also talk about

00:13:05.120 the kulaks among the soviet union uh they were the sort of wealthier peasant farmers who were always

00:13:10.960 blamed for when the five-year plan didn't get uh hit and so whites are sort of a convenient

00:13:15.980 state goat and what happened is as they've gone because we haven't controlled our border

00:13:20.040 uh since the 1960s particularly under biden from a kind of large super majority to 58 percent of the

00:13:27.360 population and just another minority among the under 18 crowd the entire dynamics of this issue have

00:13:35.700 begun to change in some you know kind of disturbing and potentially dangerous ways

00:13:40.240 well it's you know it's funny a couple of points there by the way when they ever said they say

00:13:45.800 peasant farmer i always say with the kulaks i always point out that you know when you hear peasant

00:13:50.280 farmer it's kind of confusing what's a peasant farmer but you know what we'd call that in america

00:13:54.160 a small business owner right so someone who's got like you know you've got like a little bit of land

00:13:58.940 you got maybe one storefront but that's it you're not like some oligarch it's like a small business

00:14:03.680 owner someone who's got a couple of airbnbs and you see what they do with the squatters and all the rest of it

00:14:07.380 and so it just means you're not a member of like the heavily landed class but you know you got some

00:14:11.940 area when you talk about the demographic change though how in what ways would you say that it has

00:14:17.020 shifted the opinion on this issue well i think as long as whites were sort of a big super majority and

00:14:23.820 even before the hartzeller uh immigration bill of 1965 that began radically transforming our

00:14:28.760 demographics and i talk about this quite a lot in the book um you know we were essentially a white and

00:14:33.440 black country to kind of oversimplify and we were overwhelmingly within that white and really

00:14:38.460 the status of whites even um if they were challenged or if some people were kind of

00:14:44.440 uh going to criticize whites wasn't really under extreme threat in any particular way but as the

00:14:51.100 demographics have changed there are a lot of groups that have simply you know overall again i'm speaking

00:14:56.440 very generally i'm talking about political leadership obviously not every member they've allied against

00:15:01.200 whites and so you have a very bizarre situation in america which i am not aware of in any other

00:15:06.660 developed democracy in which the white americans who have made up a super majority of the presidential

00:15:12.960 election uh electorate in every election in american history um they have not voted for the democrats

00:15:20.820 since 1964 when uh johnson beat goldwater and yet the democrats regularly win presidential elections

00:15:28.240 because the minority vote tends to be much more consolidated on the other end of the the spectrum

00:15:33.660 so i mean that's that's kind of how the political dynamics of i think a lot of this work

00:15:38.480 and that's a great point you know something that uh that i think a lot of people don't always

00:15:44.880 understand and it is generational too because uh there i talked about this issue so many times

00:15:50.480 and you know typically when you get with folks that are shall we say that remember america from pre-1960s

00:15:58.060 um to them that's sort of their set view of america and it's it's almost hard to uh to get it across to

00:16:05.520 them that actually america isn't like that anymore america doesn't function like the 1960s anymore and it

00:16:10.640 certainly doesn't even function like the 1980s anymore no absolutely and it's funny you mentioned that

00:16:16.540 because i i was uh chatting with with charlie kirk on his show about a week ago and he said that when

00:16:21.260 he talks about this issue with sort of his older donors they kind of are trapped and oh you know

00:16:27.260 like even is talking about this issue racist but when he talks about it with those students uh who he

00:16:32.740 spends of course probably just about more time with than just about anybody else in the movement

00:16:36.000 they're all like they get it immediately they're like oh yeah of course this is going on it's a huge

00:16:40.560 issue and we should really be talking about it yeah charlie and i and of course we we have our

00:16:46.440 thought crime tonight where we commit all sorts of thought crimes and uh you know it's it's been

00:16:52.140 a topic that comes up again and again and what's what's great about that show specifically and come

00:16:59.240 up on a break here in about a minute but what's great about that show is we we deliberately tell

00:17:03.900 people up front we are going to discuss verboten topics this is the forum for that so if you don't

00:17:12.080 want to watch it you don't have to and you can check out uh meanwhile of course the mainstream

00:17:16.540 media and uh you know these these uh left-wing groups and like the media matters types have

00:17:22.280 always go after it's oh look what they said here i said well wait a minute we the whole point of this

00:17:27.240 is to give ourselves a space whereby in on a weekly basis we can sort of unplug from the news cycle and

00:17:34.760 then actually discuss some of these topics that we're told we're not allowed to bring up because it's

00:17:39.980 very naughty to even discuss these things uh quick break here we're on the uh on the show here today

00:17:46.380 jeremy carl his book is unprotected class all about the anti-white racism that is going on

00:17:53.500 in the united states it is prevalent it is unspoken of and now we are speaking right back here live

00:17:59.640 from budapest hungary jack persoba cuba meds daily

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00:19:55.460 with jeremy carl he's the author of the new book the unprotected class all about white anti-white

00:20:02.480 racism in the united states jeremy i've got to ask you we talk about it a lot on the program so uh human

00:20:10.020 events listeners have heard about it but i've got to hear what does the book say specifically about

00:20:15.400 quote unquote white flight and the idea that uh that the reason that whites were forced to flee

00:20:24.120 their towns and cities and this this you know i thought it was just in the northeast like i experienced

00:20:29.460 as a kid when i was about 11 years old uh and this was in the 90s but it's been going on throughout

00:20:35.120 the entire country all the way back to the 1960s how did this get started and how did we lose

00:20:43.320 those towns and communities through the the point of the bayonet of the government

00:20:49.960 yeah well it's it's a great question jack and and this as you said it goes back well before the 1990s

00:20:56.700 and i was we were saying just during the break i was saying that one of the things i talk about in

00:21:00.840 the book is that white flight is really the only form of ethnic cleansing in which the victims were

00:21:05.740 blamed for it um and really they were and they were called kind of middle and working class whites

00:21:11.200 who were put in a situation in which things just became untenable for them i mean the the crime was too

00:21:18.960 much uh the schools weren't functioning and they they had to leave because of that and then they were

00:21:25.080 kind of turned around and tarred as racist and i really kind of get into this and i i start by kind

00:21:30.300 of i have a chapter on crime and then i kind of talk about how crime sort of leads to uh white flight

00:21:36.880 and then i talk a lot about so-called blockbusting which was kind of ways that that people got uh you

00:21:44.760 know threatened and and sort of felt like if they didn't sell they were going to lose all their money

00:21:49.640 and this was all real estate speculators behind it so it's it's really a kind of horrifying story

00:21:54.260 but i i lay it out in detail well and it's interesting with the blockbusting that you

00:21:58.560 mentioned as well because the blockbusting didn't even work out well for the speculators because

00:22:03.400 what ends up happening this is how you get the slums right because what ended up happening

00:22:06.940 was that they would they would break up the block they would tell people that all the criminals are

00:22:10.740 coming in the section eight's coming in etc and they could see it happening in other parts of town

00:22:14.040 so the speculators would come in buy up the real estate from these these terrified families

00:22:18.680 and then when they couldn't turn them into rental properties or investment properties

00:22:22.700 they would just cut their losses and then they'd abandon the property they'd get money from the

00:22:26.780 government for this and this is how you ended up with towns all across america that have just

00:22:32.820 completely ghosted and you get these this in in some cases i gotta say i'm from the northeast

00:22:38.220 originally it's how i can speak to this these beautiful homes built uh turn of the century in

00:22:43.420 many cases post-war and other cases that are just absolutely gorgeous and they're they're abandoned

00:22:49.120 they're run down they're trashed and we have towns like this all over america which and of course

00:22:54.760 they're yeah my producers are hitting me with the pizza hut ad that's what i always go for

00:22:58.220 they always they always know how to uh how to twist the knife on me because this i can remember

00:23:03.020 growing up in a town like this a town that my family lived in since we came from poland almost a

00:23:09.000 hundred years and what people don't understand specifically about this it's that those those they say oh

00:23:14.960 well the white people left because they were racist and it's like you lose your your churches

00:23:20.440 you lose your family ties your connections you can't and it's all scattered to the wind you can't

00:23:27.220 just build that by fiat no matter how many times the government tries to come in and do it or like a

00:23:32.360 community like a hoa nobody likes hoas you know it's all it's all top-down pressure uh you know

00:23:38.500 pressure and textualization and so it's it's amazing me there's a book i've got to get you that i read

00:23:43.600 some excerpts of recently where there were some there were some of these social scientists talking

00:23:48.820 about a town that was experiencing this through the 60s and 70s and they would actually talk about

00:23:54.380 the horrific crime that was going on but then they would turn around and just blame it all they would

00:23:58.900 say well these attitudes are clearly just part of the latent racism that that exists in this community

00:24:04.020 it's like no they're actually responding to things that are happening in their own town

00:24:07.400 and they it isn't perhaps uh the reformers they just can't get behind in roseville was it

00:24:12.720 by any chance it was left behind in roseville it's exactly what it was yes yeah i actually

00:24:16.260 quote that a lot of the book it's a horrifying story or you could read the saturday evening post

00:24:21.220 tanya my wife tanya take comes in because i got just like a couple of chapters of it and and i sat

00:24:29.300 there for hours i sat there for hours and i went and got had to get the whole book and i'm reading

00:24:33.420 this like going out of my mind that explain to people what it is they who don't know what we're

00:24:38.040 talking about well roseville is a fictionalized i mean it's it's a real texas town uh but it's

00:24:44.160 fictionalized i'm not sure what the actual town was and it kind of describes this town that was

00:24:48.680 essentially um uh you know kind of the white flight occurred and for those whites who stayed

00:24:55.720 particularly the older ones who didn't want to give up their community i mean endless home

00:25:01.500 invasions endless rapes murders it just becomes you know horrifying and then often uh if perpetrators

00:25:09.260 were caught you know they would claim that it was like a racist cop who did it and so you know

00:25:14.280 everybody who could get out did and the people who didn't have any money who didn't have any income

00:25:19.100 like elderly people were sort of stuck in roseville to become you know victims of predation essentially

00:25:25.940 and it's a really it's a really horrifying story uh the the book it just it it utterly blew my mind

00:25:32.760 that something like that could be written with and with a straight face these social reformers

00:25:36.980 keeps keep just blaming it all on racism it's just all racism i even found i looked up the amazon

00:25:42.300 reviews for this crazy book um and it's written by the lips so people understand what we're talking

00:25:46.740 about that the amazon reviews even one there was one from a professor i can't use this in my class

00:25:52.740 anymore because this is dated language and and therefore it's a source it's a primary source and

00:25:59.020 you're not you're going to refuse to use it because you don't like the language and this really is the

00:26:04.760 issue when it comes to these things and by the way we're not talking about ancient history here or

00:26:09.560 something we're talking about things that happened in most people's lifetimes absolutely i mean you

00:26:15.580 talked about your family my family came to cleveland in the 1840s and some of them still live in that area

00:26:20.760 and it's the same sort of thing right like they didn't want to leave their community they had all

00:26:25.000 sorts of institutions they had cultures they had schools but it just became too violent the education

00:26:30.820 system collapsed and um you know they didn't have any choice and i kind of tell the story in the book

00:26:36.540 of michelle obama kind of complaining about uh white people fleeing from uh you know when her families

00:26:44.040 like her moved into her particular part of chicago and then i recount a kind of article written by my

00:26:49.020 claremont colleague william vogeli where he shows that it wasn't because they were sort of blindly

00:26:53.420 racist but because as the um as the demographics of the neighborhood turned it became one of the

00:26:59.940 most dangerous and least functional neighborhoods in the city and people did try to stay around

00:27:05.160 but then you know a popular toy store owner is murdered and at some point people just give up but

00:27:10.240 the result of course the way this is told in history is that this is white people's fault they're they're

00:27:14.480 not only lose their entire communities in the way that you've described jack but they're blamed for

00:27:19.620 it no and it's it it's taken me a long time to kind of come to terms with it because but but i i mean

00:27:26.320 i can never even i will never for my entire life i'll never forget the day that we were moving and we

00:27:32.460 were leaving from this this this where you know i was like related to half the people on the block

00:27:38.180 and we knew all the kids who the neighborhood kids who i played with were the kids of the neighborhood

00:27:45.200 kids that my father had played with it was the same house my father grew up in uh that we lived in i

00:27:50.540 mean because that's how it was right that's just how it was uh in those types of neighborhoods and

00:27:57.200 and and and now that i'm older i understand better but it's it's still something where the emotional

00:28:03.940 impact never ever leaves you because these were homes and communities that were stolen and they

00:28:11.180 were stolen by the power so let's let's go let's go to this because there's only a couple of minutes

00:28:14.880 left what are some of the i dare say it but you know are there solutions to any of this where do you

00:28:21.820 come down on that in the book absolutely so i talk about a lot of solutions and i mean i think some

00:28:26.820 of them are we got to fundamentally reconceptualize civil rights law in some very fundamental ways because

00:28:31.920 right now civil rights law is functionally used to discriminate against white people so that's

00:28:37.740 thing one so then you also have to look at affirmative action you have to look at the way

00:28:42.400 the government categorizes people by race you need to look at restoring freedom of association you need

00:28:48.200 to look at new inter-ethnic political alliances between a lot of groups particularly asian americans

00:28:54.340 for example a lot of hispanic americans you know other people who are not being served well

00:28:59.080 by the current system so i have in my book uh 12 different uh proposed solutions and i think

00:29:05.580 this is not hopeless i mean it's a difficult situation but america has tackled much more

00:29:10.240 difficult situations before in the past and we've come out on the other end as still the greatest

00:29:15.180 country in the world i just think we have to have some bravery and that's what i've tried to do

00:29:19.800 here in setting this up i i couldn't agree more you're being extremely brave for putting this out and

00:29:26.300 speaking about these topics because even now of course you'll get you'll get labeled something or

00:29:29.820 other but hey i mean i'm here at this uh at cback hungary and you know i've just i was just speaking

00:29:34.820 with some uh some of the delegates here from south africa and i said boy those guys i said are you are

00:29:39.880 you sure you even want to go back by choice and they say of course it's our home it's our home and

00:29:44.680 there's there's a power in home and this is something where i i think the right has been very

00:29:49.800 deficient has been very deficient and saying oh well you should just go somewhere else go where the jobs

00:29:55.500 are go with the capitalists how about i don't want to how about i want to live in the place where my

00:29:59.460 family resides and where and you know tucker's great line where where uh where my family is buried

00:30:04.840 the graveyard that my family has used for 100 years why should i be forced to leave that jeremy carl

00:30:09.640 amazing book man we should we should get you on i want to read this thing cover to cover i love it

00:30:13.580 thank you for doing this thanks so much for having me i appreciate it god bless man the book is the

00:30:18.380 unprotected class everybody you want to understand what's going on go get yourselves a copy of this book

00:30:24.280 be right back megan bosham joins us next

00:30:26.400 so i'm jumping on my computer going to pre-order town

00:30:33.280 all right jack so we are back here live budapest hungary

00:30:53.920 working on getting megan bosham will be our next guest all about her new book but first i wanted

00:30:59.400 to give you guys a quick update we all know president trump's presidential immunity hearing

00:31:05.180 was held earlier today at the supreme court mike davis of course the great mike davis has

00:31:11.200 this incredible tweet i want to read it for you because he really goes through everything bottom line

00:31:17.200 he says likely five to four but that's only if justice amy coney barrett joins the three liberals

00:31:24.760 and i have to save it folks i have to say it at this point it seems like amy coney barrett is pro-life

00:31:31.300 but liberal on almost everything else so what mike davis that's that's me that's not mike saying that

00:31:37.600 so it says that the supreme court his view is that they will narrowly hold the president of the united states

00:31:44.060 any president keep in mind that's any president going forward or in the past of course is immune

00:31:49.360 from criminal prosecution for official and not personal acts additionally or alternatively the

00:31:56.720 court will reaffirm criminal statutes do not apply to the president unless they are explicit the court

00:32:02.660 will then remand jack smith's january 6th case to dc obama judge tanya chuck and for an evidentiary

00:32:09.060 hearing what does this mean this means essentially what the supreme court would do and this is me talking

00:32:13.460 now is create a new specific and explicit standard regarding presidential immunity from criminal

00:32:19.300 prosecution then using that standard they would kick it back down to the trial judge in that case to

00:32:26.640 make a decision based on that new standard so they wouldn't be deciding it the trial judge would and this

00:32:32.660 of course is tanya chuck and not exactly a trump fan her decision and this is back to davis would then

00:32:38.740 be immediately appealable to the dc circuit and then of course if the dc circuit doesn't rule

00:32:44.980 for trump that decision could repeat be appealable yet again to the supreme court so the supreme court

00:32:51.860 could take that case up even before trial all of this means uh what's extremely likely is that it would

00:32:58.760 delay the january 6th case and here's something that's very interesting their holding would even

00:33:06.020 substantially affect fanny willis's january 6th case down in georgia as well as of course the

00:33:11.940 presidential records act case regarding mar-a-lago i'm told we have megan we do hey megan very excited

00:33:20.020 to have you on thanks for having me it's great to be here super excited i'm so happy that you wrote

00:33:25.580 this book so folks we're talking with megan bosham she's a reporter for daily wire and she's written this

00:33:30.920 new book shepherds for sale how evangelical leaders traded the truth for a leftist agenda

00:33:38.300 that's a pretty strong charge megan i hope you have some receipts to back that up i have so many

00:33:44.760 receipts this book is chock full of receipts and you know i mean it's a big topic and i think it flew

00:33:50.520 under the radar for a long time because um it makes people uncomfortable right to investigate their church

00:33:56.300 leaders to question what they're doing so i think it's one of those things where people were noticing

00:34:01.020 trends uh coming out of ministries maybe christian publications and for a long time they didn't really

00:34:07.480 want to ask questions so it got to the point um when i started looking into it that it was at some

00:34:13.320 pretty epidemic levels of what's been happening behind closed doors so we can see and and i'll say this

00:34:20.280 and and you know speaking from someone who is you know not evangelical i'm a catholic so when i when i

00:34:25.140 look at but i do a show with charlie so i have a lot of plugins with uh the evangelical world that

00:34:30.980 not his side i would say but among many others you know see or you just see videos online this type of

00:34:37.480 stuff and it seemed to me like a bunch of wokeness was like running into uh into the evangelical church

00:34:44.740 and i was like wait a minute i thought the evangelicals were like the more based ones the more conservative

00:34:49.640 ones who are these types so tell me how this got started right and you know that's what a lot of

00:34:56.700 people have been noticing and i think the first thing you have to do is differentiate the evangelical

00:35:00.640 leaders from the rank and file and you know if i could just sidetrack before we get into that really

00:35:05.440 quick and explain um if you are not an evangelical and maybe you're catholic maybe you're a latter-day

00:35:11.440 saint maybe you're something else and you go why do i care about what the evangelicals are doing

00:35:15.980 um let me explain why you care really quick because they are 32 percent of the u.s electorate

00:35:21.100 and they have rightly been called the um the last bastion the lone holdouts the the they are really

00:35:29.260 the main obstacle every time the left wants to do something that 32 percent which trends overwhelmingly

00:35:35.620 conservative they vote gop they are the ones throwing a wrench in the works so you know if you look

00:35:41.200 at any issue like open borders amnesty um anti-human fossil fuel legislation all of that your evangelicals

00:35:49.120 are the ones who are typically standing in the way of the left getting their way so when you ask why did

00:35:55.360 this happen well you have a captive audience of people then who trust their church leaders there they

00:36:00.120 trust their ministries and and they want to follow their faith right they want to do what god wants them

00:36:05.740 to do so that makes them um a really appealing target audience to some nefarious actors so if we

00:36:13.080 go back to around 2012 i would say right about then is when um your george soros is your rockefeller

00:36:20.360 foundations organizations like that started to recognize these people are constantly a problem

00:36:26.100 in the fact that they get they get in the way of our agenda so um i mean there are internal documents

00:36:31.700 that you can now see right around 2012 2013 where people who work in george soros's foundations who

00:36:38.540 are leading some of those u.s programs say what are we going to do with these christians how do we get

00:36:43.920 them on board with our immigration our lgbtq rights our abortion rights quote unquote uh priorities

00:36:51.060 and so that's really where it started which and you know if you're a committed political revolutionary

00:36:58.260 like those types it's from a tactical perspective it's actually very smart it's very smart to say

00:37:06.640 rather than attack the church right rather than attack people for their religion because that's

00:37:12.860 going to initiate an immediate response uh you know this is what we do so i'm working on a book on

00:37:18.240 anti-communism and we saw in spain they attack the church people respond in france they attack the

00:37:23.880 church people respond in russia they attack the church and you know it turned into the bullshit

00:37:27.920 revolution one of the most bloody revolutions in history and so they come to america and they

00:37:32.120 realize a hold on a second if we attack the church we attack christians people are going to have that

00:37:37.500 immediate response so what's the smarter play to get inside the church and then start subverting it

00:37:45.280 slowly by slowly little by little bit by bit what are some of the issues that they focused on early

00:37:50.620 um you know early on immigration has been a major issue climate change has also been a major issue

00:37:57.280 but um you know because we don't have all the time in the world right now to cover everything

00:38:00.640 i mean i can give you just some of the examples of what's been happening in the issue of immigration

00:38:05.060 is that you have a very large organization a sort of acknowledged left-wing foundation called the

00:38:11.500 national immigration forum well you know they are known as a left-wing act actor so what they did is

00:38:17.600 they started a program called bibles badges and business which was specifically designed to say how do we

00:38:24.800 get at those more conservative constituencies and sort of come in the side door so that they are not

00:38:31.580 on their guard and what they did was they created kind of an astro turf front group called the

00:38:37.320 evangelical immigration table and what that group did was it brought in leaders not the rank and file

00:38:44.840 but the leaders of these various organizations these various ministries like for example the ethics and

00:38:51.040 religious liberty commission if you're not familiar with that it is the lobbying arm of the largest

00:38:56.820 protestant denomination in the u.s the southern baptist convention so that became a very ripe target for this

00:39:03.680 kind of work so they brought in their leaders and they got their leaders to sort of put out what you might

00:39:09.180 call bible study curriculum to put out talking points to say god wants you to welcome the stranger and so

00:39:17.220 they abuse scripture and say welcome the stranger means we have to have amnesty policies we have to

00:39:24.860 raise the cap on refugees we have to allow these very loose asylum policies where pretty much anybody who

00:39:31.780 can get across the border is able to say i'm an asylee and they're doing this in partnership in this

00:39:38.320 particular case with groups like world relief who are ngos that get a lot of money tens of millions of

00:39:45.020 dollars from the government in order to facilitate bringing all of these people illegally across the border

00:39:51.500 so you have ministries claiming to be working for the church contributing to this chaos that we're seeing

00:39:57.460 at the border and then you know the big headline about this group the national immigration forum who created

00:40:03.400 this evangelical front group they are taking millions of dollars from george sorrows so um and that's what nobody

00:40:10.220 knows that you know that these things are not being done because people are trying to follow

00:40:15.040 scripture that they're trying to in the best way practice their faith it's being artificially

00:40:19.540 manufactured precisely and and quick break here and and i'm gonna say it because i don't want people

00:40:25.220 to think that we're like like i'm just coming down on evangelicals or something i call out catholic

00:40:29.180 charities for doing the exact same thing all the time because it is not what we are called to be

00:40:36.340 doing to facilitate people breaking the law and breaking into our country no absolutely not and no

00:40:43.680 catholic should be supporting such thing either they told me right back i'm watching fire discussion

00:40:48.560 computer pre-order town

00:40:51.440 but i got a hankering yearning deep inside for this book called unhumans i just can't

00:41:09.160 all right jack posovic we are back live megan bosham is our guest the book is shepherds for sale

00:41:21.460 all about how wokeness infiltrated the evangelical church well wokeness has infiltrated financially george

00:41:30.280 soros but megan what you've outlined here and this is something i'm very interested in how this messaging

00:41:35.800 has taken over and really turned these ideas in just just gone into scripture and sort of inverted

00:41:44.740 so many of the meanings it's kind of like it kind of reminds me of like when you're arguing with a

00:41:48.660 leftist and they go they like google and cherry pick some some bible verse and they throw it at you as if

00:41:55.260 it's like some gotcha aha now i've tricked you because i've said the verse but that's not how we're

00:42:00.880 supposed to interact with scripture that's not how we're supposed to do it's not you're supposed to

00:42:04.620 interact with anything by the way because you can cherry pick any quote to make it seem like it fits

00:42:08.860 your argument and essentially that is what they're doing though they're reading their own meaning into

00:42:13.740 it but what you've identified and what you go through in the book chapter and verse pun intended

00:42:18.060 um is that it is part of a political agenda right and you know i always tell people here's one way you

00:42:25.720 can know when they're doing it is they'll have one verse and it's not even really um an entire verse

00:42:29.960 it's just love your neighbor and i go okay can you tell me anything else over and over yeah yeah

00:42:35.460 right love your neighbor i mean to the point that we have even seen like gavin newsom put love your

00:42:40.140 neighbor on billboards in relation to abortion which is appalling like come to california get your

00:42:45.500 abortion love your neighbor i mean this is a thing that i think he learned from evangelical leaders

00:42:50.300 um because they were just you know using it that way all through covid with climate change now with

00:42:55.200 immigration so they will repeatedly sort of use these just very cheap um catchphrases use really

00:43:01.520 deep theological truths and just employ them as um just sort of cheap slogans to get the policies that

00:43:08.820 they want and really what this is created to do is it's created to convince the people who vote for

00:43:16.720 republican legislators that hey um your largest voting base really wants you to do this so it is a way to

00:43:24.020 give them cover to enact policies that in fact the rank and file don't want now sometimes it has

00:43:29.600 worked and sometimes it has not worked but i mean if you'll just look at just recently last uh well

00:43:34.840 last month those same evangelical groups the ethics and religious liberty center were touting

00:43:41.040 polling supposedly showing evangelicals want to back lankford's border bill well that just flew in the

00:43:48.220 face of all the you know actual sentiment we were seeing out there so you had to believe

00:43:52.340 that evangelicals didn't really know what they wanted until they talked to pollsters so that is how this

00:43:58.840 game works is um it's not just about hey let's minister to the poor and needy because we can have

00:44:04.360 uh good faith debates on what our um scripture what our god what uh jesus christ requires of us

00:44:12.600 when it comes to policies like immigration but it wasn't a good faith debate it was a way to say

00:44:18.400 hey you have to get out and lobby for this this is not just about ministering to the people in your

00:44:23.200 community it's about making sure that your legislators vote the way we want them to vote and so that's

00:44:29.560 another sort of tell when you see this particular material is the upshot of it is it's not really a

00:44:35.280 discussion of scripture ultimately it always leads to call your senators call your congressmen make

00:44:41.920 sure that you're letting them know that this is what you want to see in congress whatever and that

00:44:48.640 is politicking that's just very obvious politicking because now instead of informing your uh your

00:44:56.300 congregation of say what you know the the typical one is are they pro-life or pro-choice well here they are

00:45:02.600 on this issue here they are on that issue so it's not advocating it's educating but what you're describing

00:45:08.040 is advocating and it's advocating for specific issues using the uh the scriptural text as some

00:45:17.160 kind of uh some kind of leverage point and it really it seems to me like some of these guys what they're

00:45:22.940 doing is they're conducting liberal activism and they're using the church as basically like a tax

00:45:27.220 haven for it that's very much what they're doing and i do want to stress that when we talk about

00:45:32.460 these scriptural discussions they're not using like a deep study of okay what does the hebrew

00:45:37.860 mean what does the greek mean when we're talking about you know illegal aliens there there are

00:45:42.040 different words in scripture to refer to foreigner um other words that mean you know stranger and those

00:45:48.520 can have different implications so so it's not that it really is just sort of a cheap slogan to say

00:45:53.560 um if you want to be a good christian you better back amnesty sort of thing so i don't want to come

00:45:59.200 off like i am against doing deep studies on how our um politics should be informed by our faith

00:46:05.380 this is very much not that and then i think we have to look at how you know the reward system

00:46:09.920 works because then you have some of these leaders a guy like russell moore who now is the head of

00:46:15.280 christianity today sort of the flagship magazine of evangelicalism established by billy graham in 1953

00:46:22.680 he is now using that podium to demand these kind of policies on behalf of evangelicals and at the same

00:46:30.140 time he gets all the rewards of hey now he's a fellow in these very prestigious think tanks and

00:46:36.560 he's cited favorably and you know the atlantic in the new york times and he now makes you know all the

00:46:42.700 talking circuits and he'll show up um you know faith angle forum and these other very sort of

00:46:48.640 prestigious getaway think tank events so there's very much a sort of um a circulation of favors that

00:46:56.340 go on there is a reward system and so the rank and file they don't see this happening behind closed

00:47:01.400 doors all they know is gosh i don't know all of a sudden my pastor is preaching that it's really

00:47:06.300 important for me to welcome the stranger and love my neighbor and and at the end of this um there was

00:47:11.360 a bible study that told us um we have to learn how to to advocate for these policies i mean when you

00:47:17.160 see that you should absolutely start asking questions of your pastor and go why are you bringing in

00:47:21.920 from russell moore into my church and so just one minute left what are some of the solutions real

00:47:29.580 quick that you put out in your book so one of the biggest things that i talk about is really just first

00:47:37.100 being aware of it that this is happening that it is you know it's not an accident because a lot of

00:47:41.420 people want to go oh well it happens on the right too um i would say that there is a one there is no

00:47:47.220 moral equivalency between the policies of the biden administration and the policies of the trump

00:47:52.920 administration so first of all that's a false talking point from a christian perspective these

00:47:58.020 things are not morally equivalent and then the second thing is is i think we got to this place

00:48:02.760 where you know they joke amongst the southern baptists they call it the 11th commandment thou shalt

00:48:07.940 not talk badly about other christians publicly your christian leaders publicly i think we have to move

00:48:13.140 past that and we have to start doing um what we saw paul do to the apostle peter when he was in the

00:48:19.360 wrong he could still be a brother but somebody needed to go hey you're wrong here and you need

00:48:23.780 to repent and stop doing this and i think we've gotten far beyond the point where we need to do that

00:48:28.940 amen the great megan bosham thank you so much honored to have you on go follow her on x by the way

00:48:35.640 one of the best follows you will find out there go get the book shepherds for sale ladies and gentlemen as

00:48:42.280 a lot of people who are not going to be able to get out of the way to the world and see you

00:48:45.420 so i'm helping on my computer pre-order town

00:48:47.340 pre-order in large humans can't wait to get my hands on that book gonna dive into his pages

00:48:56.000 take a closer look

Human Events Daily with Jack Posobiec - April 25, 2024

EPISODE 722： ANTI-WHITE RACISM, CHRISTIAN LEADERS FOR SALE AND THE INDICTMENTS OF ARIZONA ELECTORS

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