Jack Posobiec is a commentator, international social media sensation, and former Navy intelligence veteran. He is a regular contributor to the New York Times, CNN, CBS, NPR, and other media outlets. He is also the author of the book, and .
00:02:11.340The U.S. government can't go bankrupt because we can print our own money.
00:02:15.520So why does the government even borrow?
00:02:18.040Well, the – so the – I mean, again, some of this stuff gets – some of the language that the – some of the language and concepts are just confusing.
00:02:32.500I mean, the government definitely prints money, and it definitely lends that money, which is why – the government definitely prints money, and then it lends that money by selling bonds.
00:04:43.040Totalitarian rule through the destabilization of our country is the agenda that's going on right now.
00:04:50.160And feckless Republicans are up there, have no idea what is actually happening.
00:04:56.280They would rather pass laws censoring American citizens than actually do anything to put pressure on the levers of power that are destroying this country.
00:05:07.600And make no mistake, they are hellbent on destroying this country because they believe, now there's various interests.
00:05:15.620Some believe that they can make money off the destruction of America.
00:05:18.200Some believe, and rightly so, that they will gain power over the destruction of America.
00:05:23.400And we've seen the left do this since the 1960s, march further and further towards the full destabilization and destruction of our country in order to attain their own power.
00:05:35.300Always in the name, of course, of equality and justice and the downtrodden and fighting for rights.
00:07:44.380We're still waiting to see whether or not President Trump is going to address, I'm sure he will address the audience when he comes out there, the assembled masses, the press, as it were, outside of his courtroom trial that's going on right now.
00:07:58.640So when that happens, rest assured, we will take that live.
00:08:02.840But in the meantime, we've got, you know, a little bit, you know, a little bit of a downstep from President Trump, but not that far because we've got Mike Benz, the executive director of the Foundation for Freedom Online, joining us.
00:08:30.800Yeah, we're all the warm-up act around here, man.
00:08:33.460What I wanted to ask you is when I'm looking at Congress right now, and we're talking about censorship, this new censorship bill, which really is a kind of a speech code that's being pushed by Republicans, is now coming out.
00:08:44.880What I want to ask is what is really going on in Congress with the bills that we see being pushed, the Ukraine bill, this new bill on campuses?
00:08:55.880Is it just they don't understand what's going on, or is there something at the higher level that we can't perceive in terms of the powers at play?
00:09:05.620I, you know, it's a big thing to take in, what's all happening in the free speech space, in what I covered, the censorship industry.
00:09:15.640It really does require, to really get your arms all around it, a kind of PhD in a field that is only a couple years old.
00:09:24.920And with everything else that the average member of Congress needs to know about everything from the tax code to foreign policy to domestic infrastructure issues,
00:09:36.460adding on a whole new knowledge set around the censorship industry is a very, it's a very difficult thing that requires us as citizens and voters and people on social media to amplify, you know, to turn the amp up to 11 so that they know how important it is to the voters.
00:09:56.880But I think there's also a lot happening right now in terms of foreign policy vis-a-vis the Middle East that is, you know, leading to all kinds of proxy wars when it comes to this new bill versus, you know, the Hamas and the Palestinian kind of issues.
00:10:15.480And a lot of this goes back to, frankly, the Trump campaign in 2015 when these same issues flared in a huge way around the Iran deal, which was basically an Obama administration alliance with Iran and, you know, to the detriment of folks in Israel.
00:10:38.900And this is actually when a lot of this definitional work around this bill actually began.
00:10:44.660And so, you know, this is a continuation of a long proxy war over foreign policy that is having, you know, collateral damage on domestic politics.
00:10:54.740And this is what I think people keep asking the question about because they say, wait a minute, we can see these things coming from the federal government.
00:11:01.120We can see these particularly from the Republicans in government.
00:11:03.500And all of a sudden last these questions about why is it that there are times when the Republicans seem and particularly the establishment Republicans seem incredibly easy to to run it when Ukraine, for example, when Ukraine is threatened, all of a sudden Republicans are up there.
00:11:20.700We need to defend freedom, whatever the cost.
00:11:23.260It doesn't matter how much, how expensive it is.
00:11:27.380But when it seems like it's time to defend the rights and freedoms of the American people or the border or our own freedom of speech, all of a sudden they come up with all of these, you know, quote unquote, principled reasons that we can't do something like that.
00:11:44.680And, you know, I think a lot of this is because people who want the best for this country come into it from a nationalist perspective, from a national perspective.
00:11:54.520And they look at members of Congress and think they represent the nation.
00:11:57.900And they look at our companies and think they they represent, you know, a force projection or jobs or, you know, the the best of our best in commerce of our nation.
00:12:08.680And that really misses how this nation actually got to be the nation that we think it is, which is through our multinational force projection.
00:12:18.680And this is really where, you know, I think what you're talking about, the deep cause of it, it actually is, you know, so members of Congress have to get funding to get elected.
00:12:30.300It was none other than Senator Joe Biden who complained about this in the 1970s.
00:12:35.800I think this was on or around, you know, his 30th birthday, essentially, where he did a speech to the Council on Foreign Relations.
00:12:44.000And he talked about, you know, how much of a pain in the butt it is and who you need to sell your soul out to.
00:12:50.220And he even described himself as a, quote, prostitute in order to get enough corporations and donors to give him money to be able to successfully run for office.
00:13:01.760Now, corporate donors are not a national phenomenon.
00:13:25.740Most of their business is outside the U.S.
00:13:27.800Every single one of them has more of an investment outside the U.S. than inside the U.S.
00:13:33.640So foreign policy is a bigger deal to them than domestic policy, which means they which means I'm being told that that President Trump is on his way up to make an announcement.
00:13:47.040And it looks like the network is cutting us to that.
00:35:54.000That, you know, these are completely peaceful, sanctioned protests.
00:35:58.000Which, of course, we all have the First Amendment right of peacefully assemble.
00:36:01.000But the thing that they're getting wrong specifically about UCLA is that they sectioned off and quarantined off public space that's available for everyone, including students that they were, you know, saying you cannot come through.
00:36:14.000There were viral videos of not just Jewish students, but other UCLA students that were not allowed in because they said we're only allowing allies in here.
00:36:22.000And if you're an ally, someone on the inside has to vouch that you're an ally.
00:36:28.000And then you are given a wristband to be allowed to enter public space that is supposed to be really protected, of course, by the Constitution, but also by police and people, you know, that swear an oath to defend the Constitution.
00:36:43.000And so when we were talking to security there, they were saying that they're not doing anything.
00:36:49.000They said the keys to this public space have been completely given by the school administration in the hands of the of the of the protesters here, which, again, were discriminating against students, some Jewish, some black.
00:37:03.000If you were not friendly to them, they were only allowing media in there that they deemed friendly.
00:37:08.000If if no one knew who you were or if you consider yourself an independent, basically you show up if you don't say you're pro Palestine and you're with them, they won't let you in, even if you are media, which is, of course, completely illegal.
00:37:21.000And so it's important that people realize that, you know, anyone's for peaceful assembly of people, you know, and in many ways, I think that what they're advocating for, if they truly were or are there for anti war and foreign aid to countries, I'm sure a lot of people could probably jump on top of that.
00:37:38.000But that just simply wasn't the case at UCLA.
00:37:40.000Well, when you say that wasn't the case in the end, you make the you explain to us that it wasn't necessarily something where people from all sides were allowed in.
00:37:49.000Let's talk about the violence that we saw because we're hearing a lot of competing claims about who started the violence.
00:37:56.000People are saying it was peaceful until the police arrived.
00:37:59.000People, other people are saying, no, no, it was the it was the rioters who started this.
00:38:04.000What did you observe when it came to the question of violence?
00:38:09.000Yeah. So it's important to note that I was talking to LAPD source.
00:38:12.000They told me, you know, the first night where there was a pro a big pro Israel side against the Palestinian side, there was school security there present.
00:38:21.000And actually, UCLA had taken extra measures to hire additional security.
00:39:12.000I myself was falsely imprisoned, which I'm actually talking to an attorney, a civil rights attorney about potentially filing a class action lawsuit against UCLA.
00:39:21.000Because you got to understand, once they sanction this and they say we authorize this, they are now held liable for anything that happens within that space.
00:39:29.000And so the fact that journalists like myself were getting robbed of their property and falsely imprisoned where I wasn't allowed to move at all by these students.
00:39:38.000Then now you're looking at legal trouble.
00:39:40.000And so up up until the police came, there were still cases of violence documented, of course, by the pro Palestinian encampment folk, including aggression toward other students, journalists and stuff.
00:39:55.000And so the violence was already kind of already there.
00:39:58.000And I think that what led UCLA to finally get LAPD on board was that night before LAPD showed up and police showed up, there was a big pro Israel side.
00:40:10.000And I am unsure of exactly how it started.
00:40:16.000And when I got back, I had noticed that security had been maced.
00:40:20.000I don't know by what group because both groups had maced with them, the pro Israeli side and the pro Palestinian side, which is fairly common for people to carry that.
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00:41:03.000Back live human events daily exclusive reporting live from inside the UCLA Gaza riots where Anthony Cabasa is breaking through breaking down the story.
00:41:15.000People are asking how did these riots get so big?
00:41:18.000How did the camps get so big that they metastasize into riots?
00:41:21.000He's got the information and unfortunately, it's what we all feared.
00:41:25.000A stand down order to the campus security prior to the LAPD getting involved.
00:41:31.000Anthony, please continue telling us the story and walk us through how it was that you discovered that such an order was issued in the first place.
00:41:40.000So earlier during the day before any of the protesting actually started or the riots between both factions of the pro-Israeli side and the pro-Palestine side where police didn't show up for about five hours.
00:41:51.000I actually had my property ceased and I was falsely imprisoned by some of the pro-Palestine encampment folk.
00:41:58.000As a journalist, I'm legally allowed to go in there.
00:42:02.000Security verified with me that I am legally allowed to go in there, but that it was really up to the students to decide if they wanted to let me in there or not.
00:42:10.000And so they falsely imprisoned me and restricted my movement for quite some time.
00:42:53.000Can you please help me retrieve my property that was stolen from my hands?
00:42:56.000And they said, unfortunately, we've been ordered to stand down.
00:43:00.000The only way we are able to interfere or work with anyone is if your life is in imminent danger.
00:43:06.000We're going to have to ask you to go to UCPD headquarters and file a complaint with the department and file that your property has been stolen.
00:43:13.000And I told the police officers, but you're here right now.
00:43:25.000That was the first time I understood, okay, what's going on here?
00:43:29.000And then further down the night when we had the pro-Israel group show up, because there were supporters of the entire time.
00:43:35.000Obviously, people show up with Israel flags, American flags, parents, students, Jewish students were showing up to kind of show like, hey, we're here.
00:43:43.000We're not going to be silenced, et cetera, et cetera.
00:43:46.000And so that same night, security was the only thing standing between the pro-Palestinian encampment and the pro-Israel group.
00:43:55.000And what ended up happening was somehow security was spray maced and the security ended up abandoning their post.
00:44:03.000At that point, the barricades, the only steel barricades were broken down in order for the two factions to just kind of go head to head.
00:44:11.000The entire night, campus security that was hired by UCLA was told to stand down.
00:44:19.000And they actually watched from the steps for hours.
00:44:50.000And we have been told by the police by the school administration not to interfere if there's any violence or any of that.
00:44:57.000And that and that's why we're just here.
00:44:59.000So I think the only reason they remain present is because there is technically on the clock.
00:45:05.000They're not just allowed to go home or they're not going to get paid.
00:45:08.000So they just got paid to stand down and stand by watching chaos, anarchy and violence ensue.
00:45:15.000And it wasn't up until like 2.30 in the morning that police finally arrived.
00:45:19.000And when the police arrived, it still took about an hour for them to finally and successfully take control of the situation and separate both groups that were present.
00:46:04.000And I specifically said the main thing we need to look at going forward are investigations into connections and communications between the campus and these organizers.
00:46:16.000Because the question then becomes, was there communication from the group?
00:46:21.000And perhaps if you have any information about this, if there was communication between the group organizers themselves and either the faculty or the administration of the campus, whereby in not only were they calling for the stand down order, but perhaps they were asking the organizers whether or not they wanted a stand down order.
00:46:44.000So according to the sources that I saw and the telegram chats that I saw myself from this encampment leadership to the members that were there in the tents and there for days, there were multiple times where school administration did meet with the people inside the encampment.
00:47:02.000One for safety, obviously, they had fire marshals there going around the encampment, making sure that there was proper egress that they had, you know, what they needed in case of any kind of medical or, you know, fire or anything like that.
00:47:16.000So for sure, every single day, these organizers were communicating with school staff and vice versa, multiple messages that I saw, especially come Wednesday, which was two days ago, May 1st, I believe, the UCLA chancellor finally had enough and declared the encampment unlawful and were telling the protesters that they needed to leave the encampment or that LAPD would be called or police would be called to break it all down.
00:47:43.000At that point, the telegram organizers sent out a message to their members saying that the encampment had been deemed unlawful, that they were expecting it.
00:47:53.700However, to avoid police presence, that they were going to begin negotiations and a list of demands to be met the following day in order for them to actually leave.
00:48:03.960And, of course, some of these demands, I believe one of the demands being made was that they abolish all police and security in the campus for the protection of people of color and minorities and their Palestinian brothers.
00:48:15.840Of course, we already know what this jargon actually means, right?
00:48:20.940This is all anti-cop ideology, abolitionists, anarchists that just want to see these demands met.
00:48:28.260So throughout the entire time, there was negotiations being done and somehow it just failed there and it just spiraled into anarchy and chaos.