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Director of National Intelligence Tulsi Gabbard says newly declassified documents show that top Obama officials manufactured intelligence about Russian interference in the 2016 election. She says the former president was part of a conspiracy to subvert President Trump s 2016 victory and presidency.
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A commentator, international social media sensation, and former Navy intelligence veteran.
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This is Human Events with your host, Jack Poso.
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Donald Trump knows that the Russians helped him win in 2016.
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There will always be an air of illegitimacy around the 2016 campaign.
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President Trump is now accusing former President Barack Obama of treason.
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Today, Director of National Intelligence Tulsi Gabbard didn't go that far,
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but did say newly declassified documents show that top Obama officials manufactured intelligence
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about Russian interference in the 2016 election right after former President Obama left office.
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She says the former president was part of a conspiracy to subvert President Trump's 2016 victory and presidency.
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During a press briefing, Gabbard was asked if the information implicates Obama in criminal behavior.
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She calls this, and I want to quote this directly, a treasonous conspiracy and says that people,
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no matter how powerful they are or were at the time, must be held accountable.
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D&I Gabbard is making these very strong allegations on the basis of about 100 pages of declassified
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documents her office issued on the 17th of July.
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They include email chains, the draft of a president's daily brief, and summaries from a high-level
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meeting at the White House that have to do with a drafting of this comprehensive intelligence
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assessment of Russia's actions in the 2016 election.
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The 2016 Intelligence Community Assessment was carried out soon after President Trump defeated
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Hillary Clinton, when then-President Barack Obama directed former Director of National
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Intelligence James Clapper to review alleged Russian activity in the election.
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What followed was bad intelligence tradecraft and a politicization of the intel community.
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The president has made it clear that he wanted these documents to be declassified.
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He wanted the American people to see the truth, and now he wants those who perpetuated these
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As for what accountability looks like, as the director said, it's in the Department of Justice's
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hands, and we trust them to move this ball forward.
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The witch-hut that you should be talking about is they caught President Obama absolutely cold,
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What they did to this country in 2016, starting in 2016, but going up all the way going up to
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2020 of the election, they tried to rig the election, and they got caught, and there should
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The evidence that we have found and that we have released directly point to President Obama
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leading the manufacturing of this intelligence assessment.
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Well, ladies and gentlemen, welcome aboard today's edition of Human Events Daily here live,
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We are here at the Homer Building, just one block away.
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The White House is right there outside that window, and we are here for General Flynn's
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And what General Flynn has done here, and we'll be sitting down with the general, we've just
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taped an interview that we're going to play for you in a few minutes, is go through an entire
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national security strategy for the United States, focusing on what the greatest threats to our
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We're not talking about foreign, you know, enemies, foreign and domestic.
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It's time to start focusing on the domestic enemies.
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That's the situation that presents ourselves with today.
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This is the situation that President Trump has come into in going back all the way to
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2016, as Tulsi Gabbard did yesterday, and we're going to be breaking that down as well.
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I'm also going to be appearing later on a panel with Laura Logan and Congressman Eli Crane.
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So we've got a huge episode for everyone today.
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The live stream is up on General Flynn's social media.
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So if you want to go and check that out and see the entire event in full, you can go see
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But here, Human Events Daily, Real America's Voice, and we're so gracious to Rob and Parker
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and the whole team for being able there to cover this in full and give us the team to
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be able to do this and put it together, even on short notice.
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We're bringing you the National Security Strategy Summit.
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Now it's time for everyone to understand what America First truly means.
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We had the opportunity, so gracious, to be able to sit down with a man that I served under
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in the United States military, in the intelligence services, the Defense Intelligence Agency.
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When I was sent down to Guantanamo Bay to work in the J2X interrogation cell down there as an
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interrogator analyst, the director of the DIA who sent me all those years ago was General
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And at that time, I had no idea that I'd ever be able to have the opportunity to come to
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know General Flynn and go through this as a fly on the wall watching what the deep state
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And now to be able to know him in a personal capacity, as well as members of his family,
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just never experienced or never believed that I would have this experience.
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We've got that sit down and we're going to walk through the biggest threats to the United
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Human Events Daily sitting on the sidelines of this really international security summit
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here with the one, the only General Flynn for a special Human Events Daily interview.
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It's a great honor and I appreciate your friendship over the years.
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Tell us a little about what is the National Security Strategy Summit and why did you decide
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Yeah, a few months ago, I took on the role of chairman of the Gold Institute for International
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And I've been a supporter of them for over a decade.
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And we got talking amongst ourselves, a small group.
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About two months ago and about six weeks ago or so, we decided let's hold our first conference
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here, where we're at right now in downtown Washington, D.C., on national security.
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And so what I wanted to drive that this particular conference, we're here in the midst of it today,
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I wanted to drive it by actually writing a national security strategy for the United States of
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And one of my colleagues, one of my good friends and a constitutional lawyer, brilliant guy, Adam
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And, you know, this is the this is the actual document itself.
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This is this is, you know, and our our goal with this and it's a it is a you know, it's a guide,
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like I say, for the direction of of the United States, you know, that there hasn't been a
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national security strategy written really since about 2017.
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So our nation kind of goes based on executive orders and directives and campaign objectives
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Donald J. Trump won the won the again won the election.
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He put out a whole bunch of different things that they want to achieve.
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And in order for the rest of the government to have a clear understanding and direction,
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other than trying to catch everything that that Trump has said or written about or or
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signed off on, you know, you you create in government, in the bureaucracy, you create
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That's the principal vision for the direction that the country goes.
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A lot of people misunderstand that it is a very partisan document because it's based on
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the president of the United States and the mandate that in this case, President Trump
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And so he won because he said certain things that the American people wanted.
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Well, and this reminds me of just to put it in people's perspective.
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And, you know, you read these documents, you understand this is the strategy as dictated
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It's like it is like when George Kennan set out the long memo and he was he was over at
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the State Department. But that was the genesis, the nucleus of the strategy of containment
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of international communism, because international communism was viewed as the greatest threat
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And so the threat the idea was, are we going to are we going to go to war with the Soviet
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What's the plan? And the option the option, he said, was containment comes in of we're not
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going to fight it head on, but we're going to contain it to where it is now.
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So in just briefly, what do you define in this national security strategy document is
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Yeah, the most important and the main threat that we are facing today is subversion from
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And here we are sitting here this week and the director of national intelligence who could
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not be more perfect for this particular role in in this moment in U.S. history, you know,
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Tulsi Gabbard, former Democrat, ran for Democrat presidential as a presidential, you know, in
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the primaries there for the Democrat Party, you know, was chastised, was was pretty much
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And so she's like in this perfect position to be the face for for this subversion and
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And she's been just so courageous here the last couple of days in what she's done.
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The other the second and third components of it are those that are the alliance that's
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So there is a external alliance that's behind that threat.
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And that's these this sort of strange bedfellows, right?
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That, you know, the CCP, Russia, Iran, all these others who have made statements over a
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long period of time, decades, in some cases, almost 100 years, where they have they they've
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recognized the strengths of the United States of America and they know that they can't take
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I mean, that was the result of the Cold War and the collapse of the Soviet Union.
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So what they did was they started to infiltrate our system.
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The third component of this is really how does the rest of the world see America and
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And what we have in the audience with us, we have over 50 ambassadors.
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We have a third of the world here that's sitting in this conference today that are hungry
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to understand the complexity of what is happening here in the United States right now, because
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The president, you know, Tulsi Gabbard and others are trying to explain exactly what's
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I mean, you and I, guys like us and others in the world of social media have been following
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But in order for the country to kind of survive, there is this thing we call a constitutional
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And the constitutional order is really, you know, we the people.
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We're the ones that that stand up and demand accountability of our government.
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And that's what's starting to happen even more so now.
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But we address that and we put into the perspective of how do we move forward, you know, into the
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So looking at it from that perspective, we saw the DNI's release yesterday.
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I'm sure in all your years of service, you've never seen anything like that.
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Uh, the pulpit of the press briefing room to have a director of national intelligence
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say that a previous president was engaged in treasonous conspiracy.
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What steps then do you take next to restore the constitutional order?
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Yeah, I think that, uh, one of the things that we've seen is, you know, there's just this
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And, uh, and, you know, we can see it and we can tell from your audience and certainly from
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the, from a lot of the people that I talk to on a daily basis.
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Uh, so there's not a lot of patience for long investigations.
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We've had, you know, uh, legal cases like my own that has, that have, you know, shown
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additional, uh, conspiracy and additional treasonous behavior in some cases.
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And certainly the, the, uh, the, uh, the, um, the various, uh, reports that have come
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out from Congress, the, the one that, uh, Tulsi exposed yesterday from the house permanent
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I mean, so there's a lot of evidence out there and I'll even, I'll even throw one out
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the, the, the name of whichever senior official of the Obama white house that leaked your private
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conversations to David Ignatius of the Washington post.
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That is a criminal act that is, that is FISA derived intelligence that is top secret, uh,
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SI all, all the compartments and, and walks right over to the Washington post worse than
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anything that, you know, that you would, that people accuse Assange and all these other Chelsea
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And yet that name, Susan Rice, uh, comes to mind has never once been indicted, identified
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That we are, that we are going to have to move.
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And this is really where only the president can do that.
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The president of the United States, I think he's going to have to sit there with his team
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and sit there and go, okay, folks, here's, here's what we now know.
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Uh, you know, there cannot be any more of these.
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Well, we'll see what happens or, you know, I'm going to leave this up to the, to the attorney
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There, there is a justice system that we do have that must be put into, put into high
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And, but we have to, we have to clean this out up.
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And, and, and I think only the president can do this.
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So he's going to have to pull that team together, get them in the oval office and sit there and
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go, okay, what are the steps that we must take in order to satisfy what it is that just
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Because that, you know, Lee Smith wrote a great book called The Permanent Coup.
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And when we think about 2016 and 2017, that was an attempted coup.
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When we think about 2020 and 2021, that was a coup, you know, the, the, the ringing of
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Then now we talk about 2024 and 2025, that was our sort of counter revolution.
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That was our way of the American people saying enough is enough.
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And we fought tooth and nail in that campaign season to get Donald Trump over the victory
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And he took, you know, he, he took a bullet to the head because of it.
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And, but here we are in 2025, that was just six months into this administration and the
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We're still finding subversives inside, we call them fellow travelers, right?
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In the national security strategy, we describe them as fellow travelers who have taken on
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the, the Marxist, communist, socialist headgear and they're wearing it and they're wearing
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And there are people that are still being fired, still being discovered.
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And that's just in the institution of government.
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You know, and I saw this when I was serving in, in the Intel community, obviously, obviously
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you've, you've faced the full brunt of it, but for 15 years, they broke apart our Intel
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agencies and they found people, they found these fellow travelers.
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And if they understood, and they, you did this on the military side as well, they use
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the war colleges to find us when Obama went direct, just like in, in the private sector,
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when they went for the colleges, the same thing in the military.
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So if you were a fellow traveler, you are identified, you were promoted, you were given
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And so we've got an entire system now of these people that have been in place that goes
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And when I, and I, I talk to people about this all the time and I say, look, I, I, it's
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incredible what, what Tulsi Gabbard and her team have done in a very short time, as you
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say, nothing short of unprecedented, but that deeper issue that your document is referencing
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here is only going to change when you crack this thing open.
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And I think that the, the, the drumbeat and there's no better person to do it than
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So he has had this constant drumbeat and it really goes back to his first presidency,
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And the drumbeat is to remind people what is most important to our country.
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And that's this constitutional order, the, you know, the, the fair rule of law system
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that has gotten us to this point in time, you know, right to almost 250 years, a single
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So there's gotta be that, but there also has to be, you know, accountability and our,
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if there's, if there's two things, our, our, our founding fathers taught us, it was courage,
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Certainly president Trump is and accountability.
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They were accountable for the, they knew that if, if it didn't work out, they were all
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And so here we are now, if, if this doesn't work out, if we're not able to overcome this,
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this deep state, we'll call it the deep state, this, this subversion that's over,
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that's going on, if we're not able to overcome that.
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And there are internal forces and there are external forces that are continuing to promote
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We may not have another 250 years of existence.
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Because what it achieves, what it achieves for any of America's adversaries or the constellation
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of BRICS nations, similar to containment, right?
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Because you don't need to confront the United States head on, but it creates this strategic
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And so they can deter the United States from being able to act on a global scale.
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Because we're constant, we're being flooded by migrants where our cities are, are overwhelmed
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We're dealing with all the subversives in our own government.
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It's gets blocked by some judge or something like this.
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And I, I even said yesterday, what, what, you know, 2020, I call that a color revolution.
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2024, we ran our, our counter revolution, as you say, going back 2016, 17, Russia.
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I think it, I think the word hoax is a little bit, just a little bit off because I don't know
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This was an intelligence, it wasn't something they stumbled into.
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This was an intelligence operation, a domestic intelligence operation run against the American
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So to jump, to jump a little bit, because what you're hitting on is really important.
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I think the audience, from my perspective, I think they just understand.
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In, in the 2014 timeframe, winter of 2014, the United States of America ran a cover color
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And, and the Ukraine and the mess that's in Ukraine right now, the government, the overthrow
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or the regime change of the government of Ukraine, that, that actually happened.
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And so fast forward, and they really thought that Hillary Clinton was going to win in 2016.
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They really, you know, they believed it, right?
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So when he won and, and he defeated their, their initial components of their strategic
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And now we know on the 8th of December is a really, really important date because that's
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sort of the initiation by Barack Obama, where he ordered these guys.
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Where he ordered his national security apparatus, this, the, particularly the, the intelligence
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component of it to kick into high gear, essentially a color revolution on par with what we had
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And that color revolution began in earnest on, on that day, because they had already
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And I have to ask you, you know, since we are here live, that the thing that jumped out
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so much to me, and this has never been reported before.
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So I see all these, you know, in the AP, the associated propaganda is out there today saying,
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It's never before been reported that the president's daily brief was withheld on that
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Have you ever heard of a president's daily brief being withheld?
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That'd be like, that'd be like saying the New York Times or, or, or the intelligence adjusted.
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So that would be like saying the, the wall street journal isn't going to publish today
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or the New York times isn't going to, it's, it's a whole system that is in constant churn.
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That's just not, you have to, you have to, you have to be in this world and it's unthinkable.
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And I realized though, that for a lot of people out there that said, if you're not in the
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intelligence cycle, you don't understand how big of a deal that is.
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So if you're looking at, like somebody said, you know, we got smoking guns, you know, and
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then you have gas poured out there, you know, Tulsi, Tulsi took, took the match out the other
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This to me, and again, this is, this is, I believe is probably the greatest crime committed
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So this gets back to, and I think what is really important, this is looking forward,
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As we, as we are trying to do here in this conference to be sort of forward leaning as
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So we really have to organize sort of for combat, right?
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We got to organize and what you would do in the military, you'd gather the forces.
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That's why I say, President Trump's going to have to really have a heart to heart with
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his team and go, okay, we're going to have to figure out what's the plan, what's the
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strategy, what's the direction we're going to move forward, and then how fast we need
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The second thing is, what are the most important priorities?
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Because you and I have had, you know, before we came on, we talked about different
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things that are going on, you know, Epstein files and the Ukraine war and, you know,
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and the difficulty of extracting ourselves from war, which is something that President
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He wants to be the peacetime president, and he's still fighting tooth and nail to do that.
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And there's a lot of people politically who want to take that from it.
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Yeah, we have massive, we have massive issues here still inside the country that were promulgated
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by the previous administration, where they allowed 20 million illegals to come in.
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We've got the Chinese incursion of fentanyl, which is a weapon system.
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We've had, you know, more than a couple of hundred thousand this past year killed in action
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What I want the president to sort of reiterate and to make sure that he's telling the American
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Here's the priorities that we must have in order for the United States to achieve a level
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of what I call primacy, right, primacy, meaning we are, we are, we are the dominant nation
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We've got to maintain our, we've got to check our egos at the door.
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And in order to stay the top dog, not as we're patting ourselves on the back, but in order
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to stay the top dog, we've got to fix right here at home.
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It's not being isolationist, like the media will try to describe Trump.
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No, primacy means we'd make sure we take care of our home first, get that right.
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And we have to do that now with everything that we know.
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And a lot of people, Fortress America, we got to, that's right.
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And we got to focus on America first, get our house in order.
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Once we get our house in order and we can juggle, Trump is very capable of juggling multiple
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So he's got a great team of people to be able to do that.
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He's got a lot of people on the outside that are, that are influencing and helping out.
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So we don't have the lies coming out of the, you know, all these, really the media that
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has just been part of this institution that's been trying to destroy this country.
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I mean, we're going to talk here at this National Security Conference about alternative media.
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And that's why I appreciate you being here and being part of that, because that alternative
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media gives a voice to the voiceless, gives a voice to the American people to be able
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We, the people still want our life, our liberty, our pursuit of happiness.
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And actually we're able to do that through alternative media.
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If we didn't have that alternative media, God, God knows what would be, what would happen.
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I mean, Trump, I call this last, this last presidential election.
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I mean, I call this last presidential election, the podcast presidency.
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Because the president, President Trump finally realized it's not about going on Fox or going
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It's actually, there's a market of people out there that represent millions and millions
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of Americans that are hungry for honesty, hungry for the truth.
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Sadly, you're not going to get it out of the mainstream media.
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You're now getting it out of all these other voices and you being one of the big ones in
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the country and frankly, in the world, because why we have a third of the world sitting out
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here, because they're listening and they're watching.
00:26:53.080
And I used to be able to say, as an American, as a military guy, as a military leader, we'd
00:26:57.600
go around the world and we'd be like, Hey, you know, be like us, right?
00:27:01.580
We would try to talk to these other countries and you go around and you handshake and you
00:27:14.360
But, but the, the one thing that we are allowed to do inside the family, right?
00:27:20.480
Inside the, the board, the, the boundaries of, of the American family is we're able to
00:27:24.760
take care and deal with our, our, our pressures here on our own in this constitutional order
00:27:30.600
Let me ask while I have you, because the, you know, talk about the voice of the voiceless,
00:27:35.660
the biggest story right now, and you touched on it there is, is that I keep getting asked
00:27:41.240
about it as these Epstein files, the Epstein situation, obviously the president it's, it's
00:27:50.840
It's something where obviously the media is now jumping on it, trying to do everything
00:27:57.320
In some cases, old stories, trying to connect the president to Epstein.
00:28:01.120
And I think the reason they're doing that is because they know that if he actually does
00:28:06.880
start releasing the names that are in there, that it's going to be people that are, that
00:28:12.600
You know, and, and I don't think what the American people need to, need to see or want
00:28:16.200
to see is the transcripts, the transcripts of, of the, the various things.
00:28:19.660
I think what the American people need to, need to hear, they want justice, but the, the
00:28:25.520
rollout for this, and I've been very public about this, the rollout for this was a disaster.
00:28:29.520
Um, but that let's put that aside because it's still very important and it's still very
00:28:35.240
And, and I know, I know the president has come out with different, you know, posts about
00:28:41.620
That's how he wanted to deal with it at that time, but this is really about children.
00:28:46.560
And if there's a universal issue that was not grabbed hold of and, and really clearly
00:28:53.240
understood by the, by the people around the president was this notion that children were
00:28:59.300
abused and they were abused by certainly by Epstein and maybe they were abused by other
00:29:06.400
So if we put somebody, if we give somebody the death penalty in the state of Florida for,
00:29:12.200
for, uh, you know, sexual deviant, sexual abuse of a child, which I think Florida has
00:29:22.700
So, so, you know, if we do that to some deviant down at the, at the grassroots level, because
00:29:27.520
he's sexually abusing a child, well, elites are, you know, if they're doing the same thing
00:29:31.920
and I say elites, you know, and, and that's a very general word to use, but if that's happening,
00:29:38.740
And they want to make sure that those people are held to, you know, to account just like
00:29:42.400
some other guy, some other, you know, Jack on the street.
00:29:45.440
So, so this is about children and make it about children, make it about the protection
00:29:53.540
Even the people at the, at the highest social classes get away with the abuse of children.
00:29:59.760
What I, what I would, what I would say about this, and I, sorry, Jack, what I would say
00:30:02.740
about this is that the president needs to find really, really trusted individuals in
00:30:08.140
this country, maybe outside of the attorney general and the, and the department of justice,
00:30:12.720
because that's kind of the fox in the hen house, find really trusted individuals and
00:30:19.320
Tell the American people that you're going to do this and whatever they discover that
00:30:23.300
will be then exposed to the American people with the protection of the, of the, of the
00:30:27.440
children that were abused, of course, and, you know, and the victims, but, but that has
00:30:32.960
And I think if that happens, but like I said, just, you know, five minutes ago, there are
00:30:38.180
other priorities in our, in our, in the world today, this very chaotic, this very complex
00:30:43.600
And then the white house and the cabinet would be able to face those things.
00:30:49.180
And, and so I think the president needs, and he's, there's people out there, you know,
00:30:52.460
bipartisan people that, that will help get to a, an answer that is satisfactory.
00:30:59.160
So the American people can understand and say, look, the president, this administration
00:31:03.500
understands that this is really about children and the abuse of children.
00:31:06.460
And we, we, the people of the United States of America, I don't care what color you are,
00:31:12.320
And, and so, you know, enough said on that, because I think that there's, there's, and
00:31:18.060
that's a huge issue, but there's so many other problems that the president of the United
00:31:25.480
They've got to help him to, to, to, to better, you know, deploy this, this issue because
00:31:31.860
This, the one that has come up and has been this Ghislaine Maxwell, and she's raised her
00:31:37.780
hand and, you know, having people, you know, I don't always talk about it, but I served
00:31:42.680
a, a tour at Guantanamo Bay for, on a, in a J2X capacity under the, the defense intelligence
00:31:50.700
And who, who was the director of the DIA back then, by the way, who was that guy?
00:31:58.700
You should have seen him, you know, come and storming through the, the hallways, but
00:32:02.500
that's a, that's when, that's when General Flynn was the director of DIA.
00:32:05.440
And, but I, I remember those custodial interviews that we would hold down at Guantanamo Bay.
00:32:09.700
It seems like Ghislaine Maxwell is interested in cooperating.
00:32:18.020
Well, everything that somebody says in her case, because people go, well, she's in jail,
00:32:22.260
so she's going to say anything she, you know, she can to get herself a deal or whatever.
00:32:25.900
But, you know, all of that can be, you know, verified.
00:32:30.620
That's exactly what, when you had us down there, half, half the time, sure, we're talking
00:32:35.640
The other half, you try to verify what they said.
00:32:38.420
You're working on your, because you have the multi-suite of intelligence capabilities that
00:32:48.600
And you can tell by either communications or you can tell by money, financial transactions.
00:32:54.660
It's so easy to validate, particularly at that level, and especially when you have all
00:32:58.720
the resources of the United States government and certainly the United States intelligence
00:33:05.260
She's not, she's, you know, she would not go in there and start making stuff up because
00:33:09.340
it would just compound the problems that she's already facing in prison.
00:33:13.000
So, but that, that's got to be dealt with and I, and it's going to have to happen.
00:33:17.520
And I, the president just needs to be shrewd about it.
00:33:21.060
And he's probably one of the most shrewd people on the planet.
00:33:26.580
And he's got these other, this other dimension of the, of America and certainly the world
00:33:33.860
I mean, you know, the, the trade deals, recent trade deals that he's been able to cut out,
00:33:38.420
at least out in the Pacific, I think six, seven, maybe eight trade deals out there.
00:33:43.140
But that alone, the wars that we're still, and having Japan on board is absolutely our
00:33:52.840
So you look at what he's done, the Japanese, the Philippines, Korea comes next.
00:34:04.600
And, and he's probably one of the greatest economic presidents that we've ever had for sure.
00:34:10.220
But we, but we have to, we have to allow to a degree, we have to allow with the exposure
00:34:17.580
of what we are now seeing, what we talked about earlier about what Tulsi's putting out.
00:34:23.780
And I think what we're going to find is that was the attempted coup.
00:34:28.480
The, the, the actual coup was 2020 in the election.
00:34:33.180
And I think that what we're going to find, and I, I'm certain of this, that when Tulsi and
00:34:40.040
others around her and her team, and she's been brilliant about keeping this close hold too,
00:34:46.500
It's, it's, and you don't usually see that in Washington.
00:34:50.260
So the, what we're going to find in 2020, which I think was a coup, you know, the, the stolen
00:34:55.660
election of 2020, what we're going to discover there is even worse.
00:35:02.260
And, you know, I say, I've said publicly here that the ringleader there was Obama as well.
00:35:11.440
And, and, you know, we always use the word unprecedented.
00:35:15.700
No, nobody's going to sit there and tell me that, that we've been through this before.
00:35:19.120
We've never been through something where we've had a, the head of our, of our U.S.
00:35:24.320
intelligence and, and, and the president knows this, you know, get out there and say that
00:35:29.760
a former president attempted to essentially treason, a treasonous act against a duly elected
00:35:36.040
president to undermine the United States of America.
00:35:39.240
And, and, and by the way, that's a party that she was part of that she's now indicting.
00:35:43.740
And so she's taken all of her credibility and put it on the line for this.
00:35:48.300
You've never seen Tulsi do something like this before.
00:35:50.360
I mean, I, you know, if you want to see that, you know, if you want to see a demonstration
00:35:54.160
of courage, watch her and for her to stand there at the bully pulpit of the, of the white
00:36:00.380
house press room, she's not just talking to the people in the room.
00:36:03.820
She's talking to the world and the world just saw the United States of America sort of
00:36:12.180
And that's the beauty and the complexity of our constitution.
00:36:16.880
When I, when I talk about the constitutional order, that's the strength.
00:36:20.200
And I don't want our enemies don't, you know, for the, for those that are listening, you're
00:36:24.000
never going to see the Russians do that or the Chinese do that.
00:36:27.540
Don't, don't underestimate that what we're going through is a weakness.
00:36:35.860
I think it's a message to the Russians too, because this is in that, not to, not to get
00:36:40.040
on a fence tangent, but this is within that 50 day period where president Trump said that
00:36:46.280
So here he is saying, look, we've got the receipts on Russiagate.
00:36:56.360
So here he is now within that 50 day period and she's coming out saying, look, this was
00:37:02.500
So that's to me, perhaps an opening for the Russians to be able to respond.
00:37:08.600
He's putting the strategy and general Flynn, incredible work here with the national security
00:37:16.660
A third of the world's ambassadors here, official representatives here in the room.
00:37:20.680
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00:37:31.640
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00:39:04.620
These are influencers and they're friends of mine.
00:39:18.660
Today, I appeared on a panel with Laura Logan and Congressman Eli Crane.
00:39:26.380
If you're going to see the entire thing, it'll be up on social media and we'll also be releasing
00:39:32.140
Here's that panel right now on alternative media and the power of it.
00:39:36.100
Jack, I've watched you, you know, from the beginning, you know, kind of come up this
00:39:41.040
You come out of the Navy as an intelligence, from the intelligence community in the Navy.
00:39:48.500
But for the audience here, I'd really like you to tell everybody how the, how your style
00:39:55.680
from that intelligence community affects and shapes the media that you do and how big of
00:40:02.620
a factor is that in the strength of alternative media?
00:40:08.540
And thanks again to General Flynn, the entire team for putting this together, for having
00:40:13.820
I'll mention it because most people don't always know the backstory that when I was in Navy
00:40:18.420
intelligence, I was at one point assigned to the Defense Intelligence Agency.
00:40:23.320
It was deployed to Guantanamo Bay, worked in the J2X interrogation cell down there in the
00:40:28.000
Human Operations Center and the director of the DIA at that time, all those years ago,
00:40:37.340
That was General Flynn, who I served under in the DIA.
00:40:40.660
So a lot of people don't realize how much of a backstory that so many of the people in
00:40:44.840
this room have that through a, you know, completely precipitous series of events have now ended
00:40:53.500
And so when you talk about the style, the style that I have is the style that I was trained
00:41:00.700
I was enlisted and then became later an officer.
00:41:04.120
And I remember always being taught, be good, be brief, be gone and have the bluff, put the
00:41:11.760
So it's, it's, you've got to have that big headline, you know, you'd say headline in
00:41:17.660
today's parlance, but it was, what's the, so what, what is the, so what I could put up
00:41:22.640
a briefing slide in front of you and walk you through all of the different connections
00:41:26.880
and all of the different background on any specific problem set, whether it be a terrorist
00:41:33.300
cell, whether it be a Chinese Communist Party influence network, whatever it might be, smuggling,
00:41:38.840
But if I'm not giving you the, so what right up front, then I'm wasting your time and I'm
00:41:45.360
And so when I bring my approach to, you know, whatever it is you call I do, independent
00:41:50.840
media, that that's something that's always deeply ingrained in my mind.
00:41:57.660
If you're not speaking with clarity, then you're not properly communicating because effective
00:42:04.160
And, you know, it's so interesting looking at, as you say, this journey from being inside
00:42:08.280
the intelligence services to now in independent media.
00:42:11.680
I took my children to the International Spy Museum, which is, you know, just a few blocks
00:42:16.200
away here for the first time ever, this, this new one they constructed.
00:42:20.140
And I said, and I think I said, wow, they should really call this place the Constructed Reality
00:42:28.100
It's, it's a museum, not about the intelligence community.
00:42:31.400
It's actually a museum created by the intelligence community to give you a vision of a constructed
00:42:38.460
reality that has some resemblance to reality, but everything's just slightly off.
00:42:48.460
This is the false reality that you would get if you read the pages of the Washington Post
00:42:54.300
or the New York Times, or if you're watching CNN and listening to NPR.
00:42:59.200
This is the reality where, of course, Russia hacked the election, where COVID-19 was a natural
00:43:06.560
origin virus that came from a, apparently, a bat making out with a pangolin and ending
00:43:15.160
And if you say anything that's beyond Hunter Biden's laptop, again, Russian disinformation,
00:43:20.140
all of these things, which we know and all of us have learned are completely true.
00:43:27.400
But when you walk into that constructed reality museum, you realize the amount of money and
00:43:34.800
the amount of force and the amount of huge dollar bank accounts that are put into maintaining
00:43:43.760
this illusion of a false reality, recruiting people who are willing to go along with the
00:43:49.080
false reality as you encountered in mainstream media, because they don't actually push beyond
00:43:54.120
the boundaries of that accepted narrative, whatever the consensus bias is.
00:44:01.920
Climate change was another example of this for a long time.
00:44:03.980
You notice they don't even talk about that one anymore.
00:44:06.120
And so having been in the military and then serving in places, Guantanamo Bay, for example,
00:44:11.020
was a place that was completely lied about in the media.
00:44:14.260
And I guarantee you, every single person in this room, with the probable exception of Tim
00:44:19.520
Ballard, who just walked in, because that's a guy who knows the truth, you have a vision
00:44:23.480
in your mind of and a picture of these places that exists because the media painted it for
00:44:29.320
you, or Hollywood painted it for you, or it was an accepted narrative, a constructed reality
00:44:42.920
And for the first time ever, we've seen someone actually totally shatter that veil from a position
00:44:49.700
This has never happened before in the history of the United States, where the director of
00:44:53.740
national intelligence has come out and for the first time told the truth about what actually
00:45:00.320
happened, that in this instance, Russiagate was a domestic intelligence operation that was
00:45:06.340
run on the American people and their president in conjunction with the entire mainstream
00:45:14.120
And that's something that, of course, the media is doing everything they can to silence because
00:45:23.920
It's very hard for folks in the military, for folks in the military and the media to give
00:45:29.340
I appreciate how you guys are passing it back and forth.
00:45:33.780
Congressman Crane, also, give him a round of applause.
00:45:40.000
And speaking of deployments and speaking of the military, we know Intel drives maneuver.
00:45:45.680
You're setting a position right now with our government where you get to see things, you
00:45:50.040
We are doing this pivot to China thing that's going to be happening here pretty soon.
00:45:54.860
But while that's happening, what message do you have to the alternative media to not take
00:46:00.540
their eyes off of any certain direction and be only focused on China?
00:46:05.240
What else is happening out there that people need to make sure they don't forget about?
00:46:12.060
I realize many of my friends and allies in the room are very focused on China, and they
00:46:20.660
They are definitely a threat to the United States.
00:46:23.280
And Jack and Laura can go into great detail on some of the reasons why.
00:46:30.440
They are a definite threat to the United States.
00:46:34.280
But one thing that I will say to anybody, everybody in this room is don't take your eyes
00:46:46.540
And I think they often get underrated for a few reasons.
00:46:49.900
One of them is when we look at threats around the world, we can look at nation states, we
00:46:55.400
look at their economies, we look at their resources, and we also look at their weaponry and their
00:47:02.480
And that's an area where I think they often get overlooked because they don't rank high
00:47:09.420
You know, and when you study their when you study their theology, you know, and, you know,
00:47:16.420
some of these young kids are being taught that if they are killed in the line of jihad, they'll
00:47:26.460
And when you compare it to some of the other nation states that we often rank high on that
00:47:30.600
list, they're not fighting for the same reasons.
00:47:33.720
They're not fighting because they believe that, you know, it's divine and that God will bless
00:47:39.000
them, you know, for fighting infidels and, you know, toppling the West.
00:47:45.200
So I think that it's important that we do not take our eyes off of radical Islam.
00:47:51.580
And when you when you when you look at that list, you're saying some don't rank as high
00:47:56.260
Where are we on the top of that list that people should make sure they don't take their
00:47:59.840
eye off with which which country, which group, which organization, which terror cell?
00:48:04.540
Well, I think that if if if you look at it and you you right now, one of the reasons
00:48:10.300
that another reason that they're often, I would say, underestimated is because they're
00:48:18.340
If you look at the Middle East, there's a lot of infighting.
00:48:21.280
But if you look at what they want to do and reestablish a caliphate, which I I do believe
00:48:26.920
in the future will happen, you know, it's that's why I said radical Islam and jihadists,
00:48:34.140
because they I do believe at some point they will be able to reunite, get past all of their
00:48:43.380
But that this is one of the this is one of the dangers I see is that I think is as we
00:48:50.040
And again, I understand the reasons why, but I think that, you know, there's going to be
00:48:57.200
And I think one of the other dangers to it is that the United States of America, because
00:49:03.240
our military is so strong, our military is built to take on nation states, not necessarily
00:49:12.900
And so I think it's one of the reasons that radical Marxism, communism and socialism have
00:49:18.220
been so effective and so destructive here in the United States, because this isn't what,
00:49:23.380
you know, our Department of Defense is built to do.
00:49:26.340
And that's one of the reasons I think that radical Islam, it will be such a big threat in the
00:49:36.620
I just I want to put that in the context of the media.
00:49:41.680
I should really have said that the shift became apparent in 2016, because if you actually
00:49:47.720
look at Congressman Crane is 100 percent correct.
00:49:51.460
But if you look at the playbook of radical Islamists, first of all, it's identical to the
00:49:59.060
Unrestricted warfare is unrestricted warfare, which whether it's done by the Chinese or what
00:50:05.840
But radical Islam is a term that is in itself created to deceive, because having studied
00:50:12.000
the Koran, you will know that it's not actually radical to fight for the restoration of the
00:50:20.660
Ummah, which is the Islamic people and the Sharia throughout the world.
00:50:24.620
In fact, it's as mainstream as Islam gets to believe in that as the established.
00:50:31.800
It might be groups that use radical tactics, but we're the ones who gave it that name.
00:50:36.540
And that's where the role of the media comes in.
00:50:38.740
And if you actually look at the term Islamophobia, you cannot date that term prior to the Obama
00:50:48.020
So this is why history for journalists matters.
00:50:50.560
So what happens with the rise of independent media is you get a lot of people that can grab
00:50:57.300
And if they make a deal with a social media company, they can get a big audience pretty
00:51:03.960
They can come out of the CIA like Sean Ryan, and they can be very popular very quickly.
00:51:08.640
And they can stay there as long as somebody else decides to keep them there.
00:51:12.380
But what is actually what is it they're not doing?
00:51:19.440
Any journalist presented to you as an expert is already lying to you because we're not experts.
00:51:25.720
For five years, I can cover nuclear energy, and I will never have the knowledge of a nuclear
00:51:32.620
So what we are supposed to be is students of history, students of culture, students of
00:51:37.540
modern popular governments and who are the players of the time.
00:51:45.420
Number one, daily news and immediate deadlines are the death of that kind of level of knowledge
00:51:52.060
So it's important for journalists, really, to be able to transition beyond those things,
00:51:58.140
You can be a daily news journalist for a while and really get hard news skills or work for
00:52:02.560
a news agency and have that instant hard news nose.
00:52:06.100
But what you're supposed to build over time is context and knowledge.
00:52:09.980
And that is supposed to be merged with principles.
00:52:12.940
But what we have is journalists who are not curious.
00:52:15.620
The reason you don't know the stories that Jack's telling you about is because our media
00:52:21.960
So it's not just what they print that's not true.
00:52:26.640
You get slices of the truth because the best propaganda is built on kernels of truth.
00:52:32.960
When you make something up, it's very hard to keep it there because what happens?
00:52:36.900
It's a lie that has no legs and it keeps collapsing on itself.
00:52:43.760
You create a trail of guilt, which is exactly where we are with Chelsea Gabbard today, right?
00:52:50.440
Because the lie of Russia collusion had constantly propped up.
00:52:55.420
All right, folks, and that was just a piece, really just a tiny piece of the panel that
00:53:02.040
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00:53:06.540
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00:53:12.160
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00:53:22.860
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