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00:00:30.000 This is what happens when the fourth turning meets fifth generation warfare.

00:00:39.320 A commentator, international social media sensation, and former Navy intelligence veteran.

00:00:45.960 This is Human Events with your host, Jack Posobiec.

00:00:49.100 Christ is king.

00:00:50.180 Elon Musk has one more government job to cut.

00:00:53.820 That would be his own.

00:00:54.720 Yeah, the billionaire who became President Trump's chief cost cutter

00:00:57.880 says he is leaving his temporary government position.

00:01:00.840 A federal court decided to block President Donald Trump from imposing those sweeping tariffs.

00:01:06.360 The judge's rulings that Congress has the power to impose tariffs, not the president.

00:01:10.680 The United States will aggressively revoke visas of Chinese students.

00:01:15.200 That is the message, the warning, and the threat, really, now coming from the Secretary of State, Marco Rubio,

00:01:22.060 announcing that the Department of State will be targeting those, quote,

00:01:25.520 with connections to the Chinese Communist Party or studying in critical fields.

00:01:30.340 The Secret Service is facing more questions after a pair of agents are suspended following a physical altercation

00:01:36.540 outside former President Obama's D.C. residence.

00:01:39.580 Do you believe the Russians are being disrespectful when they say that your criticisms of Putin are simply an emotional response?

00:01:47.080 And do you still believe that Putin actually wants to end the war?

00:01:50.760 I can't tell you that, but I'll let you know in about two weeks, within two weeks.

00:01:54.600 We're going to find out very soon.

00:01:57.260 We're going to find out whether or not he's tapping us along or not.

00:02:01.400 And if he is, we'll respond a little bit differently.

00:02:04.140 I'm very disappointed at what happened a couple of nights now where people were killed

00:02:09.900 in the middle of what you would call a negotiation.

00:02:14.120 Well, ladies and gentlemen, welcome aboard today's edition of Human Events Daily.

00:02:18.880 We are here live from Budapest, Hungary.

00:02:23.120 Today is May 29th, 2025.

00:02:26.520 And even though we are here in Hungary,

00:02:30.020 just wrapped a prerecorded interview session with Prime Minister Viktor Orban.

00:02:36.340 That is going to be edited and released in just a few days here in Hungary.

00:02:43.080 I wanted to turn everyone's attention to a story that's going on back in the United States,

00:02:47.980 back in Seattle, where a great colleague of mine, Katie Davis Court,

00:02:52.300 has been covering this a ton.

00:02:54.060 And I'd love to be able to get her on.

00:02:56.080 It's just the connection issues with being in Hungary are what it is.

00:02:59.820 But this situation regarding the Christian rally over in Seattle that was attacked by Antifa,

00:03:09.300 violently attacked, violently had these people going after them.

00:03:14.600 And the same way that we've seen for years in Seattle.

00:03:18.540 This story is completely insane.

00:03:20.440 And now the mayor, Bruce Carroll, obviously this guy should resign.

00:03:25.880 There's no question about it.

00:03:27.000 He has claimed that it was the Christians who were the ones behind the attack,

00:03:31.840 not the communists, not Antifa.

00:03:34.200 And so we've seen this happen again and again.

00:03:36.840 We all remember this has the shades of Chaz all over it. 1.00

00:03:41.820 That's exactly, in many ways, how the conditions began that led to the Capitol Hill Autonomous Zone.

00:03:48.220 And believe it or not, this took place at Cal Anderson Park.

00:03:51.520 Why is Cal Anderson Park significant?

00:03:53.780 Well, for those who remember, five years ago when my brother and I infiltrated Chaz,

00:03:58.620 that's exactly where it was.

00:04:00.000 In fact, the very site of Cal Anderson Park is where this happened. 1.00

00:04:05.440 And so this mayor, complete scumbag, complete nut job. 0.99

00:04:10.120 He needs to resign. 0.99

00:04:11.040 And not only that, I would absolutely call on the FBI to open up an investigation on him, 0.88

00:04:18.200 an immediate investigation on him, because this is ridiculous. 0.60

00:04:22.320 It's a joke that this is going on in the United States. 0.61

00:04:25.180 This would be allowed to happen.

00:04:26.760 How can a mayor sit by and allow a criminal domestic terrorist organization like Antifa

00:04:33.740 to operate with impunity on American soil?

00:04:37.540 And if that's the case, why would we then not be everyone who's involved with this thing

00:04:43.500 from the Antifa all the way down?

00:04:46.320 And by the way, if this is a domestic terrorism case, and it is,

00:04:49.880 then the DOJ should open up charges on anyone who's involved in it,

00:04:53.900 who is participating in it, and anyone who is, wait for it,

00:04:57.740 leading and abetting it like it sounds like potentially this mayor.

00:05:02.320 It's very simple, very, very simple.

00:05:05.300 And so the question is, in this United States, in these United States,

00:05:11.120 will we be in a country where domestic violent leftist terrorism

00:05:16.120 is allowed to attack Christians for praying peacefully in an American city?

00:05:21.220 Folks, we're right.

00:05:25.780 And what America First truly means.

00:05:28.540 Welcome to the Second American Revolution.

00:05:35.520 All right, folks, Jack Posobiec, we are back.

00:05:39.000 It'll arrive all the way, believe it or not, from Budapest, Hungary.

00:05:43.640 I want to bring in now Real America's Voice,

00:05:45.440 as well as the Salem Radio Network,

00:05:48.140 with Hour 3, The Charlie Kirk Show,

00:05:51.180 here bringing you today's edition of Human Events.

00:05:54.380 I just mentioned earlier that earlier today I had the opportunity to take part

00:06:01.140 in a sit-down discussion,

00:06:04.020 basically a roundtable discussion with Prime Minister Viktor Orban.

00:06:08.060 So you've got myself, a number of other figures,

00:06:10.840 Ava Vlar, Michael Knowles,

00:06:13.360 so many people that I'm sure you've heard of,

00:06:16.880 many questions that were asked.

00:06:18.400 We got into a lot of things, including the Ukraine-Russia war.

00:06:22.240 We're going to get into that a little bit in the next segment.

00:06:26.100 On all of that, it's pre-taped,

00:06:28.280 and so it's going to be released by the Prime Minister's media team in,

00:06:33.540 I believe later this week is when it's coming out,

00:06:35.840 but I'll tell you a little bit more about that experience

00:06:37.640 and the experience that I've had over here as well.

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00:08:13.200 Really excited because I wanted to bring Kenny Cody on now from the humanevents.com side.

00:08:19.360 Kenny, how are you?

00:08:20.980 I'm good, Jack.

00:08:21.540 How are you, brother?

00:08:23.120 I'm good.

00:08:23.680 Can you hear me all the way from Budapest?

00:08:26.100 Can you hear me okay?

00:08:26.880 Yes.

00:08:27.580 Yeah.

00:08:27.780 Here in Cock County, we can hear you from Budapest, Hungary.

00:08:30.660 That's a wild connection that I never would have thought about.

00:08:33.020 Well, I can hear you loud and clear.

00:08:34.120 Get your piece up now at humanevents.com.

00:08:36.840 It's just been released.

00:08:38.140 So for folks who don't have humanevents.com bookmarked yet, you want to go do that because

00:08:43.240 Kenny Cody is up there and everything he puts out is straight fire.

00:08:46.740 Kenny, tell us about your new piece.

00:08:48.980 Yeah, the new piece basically details there is an amendment brought by Roger Marshall and

00:08:53.520 Dick Durbin.

00:08:54.820 And this was one of J.D. Vance's priorities back when he was actually a senator before

00:08:58.740 he became the vice president.

00:09:00.600 This piece basically details how Main Street is suffering.

00:09:04.520 There are small businesses that are suffering because of the gouging that Visa and MasterCard

00:09:08.640 of the corporations are in capitalizing on Visa card master swaps and the fees that are

00:09:14.160 going directly to these corporations that are robbing small businesses opportunities.

00:09:17.220 And these amendments are this amendment specifically of the Genius Act basically concentrates on having

00:09:25.540 the power and concentrating over from from corporations having this benefit and giving

00:09:29.980 it back to small businesses and encouraging corporations not to necessarily have the benefits

00:09:35.700 that they've had for so long.

00:09:37.380 I mean, you know, every company in the world, every every banking firm, everybody uses credit

00:09:42.600 card swapping machines and Visa and MasterCard have taken advantage of this over other credit

00:09:46.960 card companies over small businesses.

00:09:48.580 And what this this amendment does in this Genius Act bill, it will give power back to small businesses

00:09:54.060 and this corporatist mindset of giving the benefits basically to monopolies in Visa and MasterCard

00:10:00.180 over other credit card companies, giving the power back to small businesses, giving the power

00:10:04.500 back to even smaller credit card companies and even those like PayPal, Venmo and others

00:10:08.620 the opportunity to create an equal playing field and going away from the corporatist mindset

00:10:12.800 that the current credit card swap and master swaps have over the over the credit card business

00:10:19.760 in the United States.

00:10:22.680 So this is huge because the bill itself, what it's doing is it's giving the opportunity and

00:10:28.780 ability really, I think, because the the average consumer, you know, one of the things that a lot

00:10:33.880 of people miss out when it comes to credit cards is is saying, look, I need to do this

00:10:38.580 because in America, unfortunately, because of the ravages of inflation and so many other

00:10:43.120 problems of the economy during the Biden regime, guess what?

00:10:47.560 American debt limits right now or debt levels right now, I should say, are actually higher

00:10:53.080 than they've been in years, possibly the highest in all of history.

00:10:57.040 So, Kenny, walk us through the current situation that's driving this legislation and why you're

00:11:02.040 seeing Republicans reach across the aisle on something like this.

00:11:06.340 Well, I think this is the same mindset that the American nationalist populist movement

00:11:10.180 has created in the Republican Party.

00:11:12.220 You know, no longer are we catering to corporations like Visa and like MasterCard.

00:11:16.560 And, you know, look, I use I use Visa.

00:11:18.380 I've got a debit card that uses Visa.

00:11:20.620 Nothing necessarily that I hate that corporation, but the current mindset and the current infrastructure

00:11:25.660 that is the credit card corporations that are the small businesses using these credit cards,

00:11:30.260 we're giving these unnecessary benefits to big corporations that want monopolies over 0.91

00:11:35.180 this business and over this sector of American business.

00:11:37.720 And what this is doing is it's helping facilitate the idea that the Republican Party is no longer

00:11:43.640 one that is going to cater to corporations.

00:11:45.540 It's no longer going to take big money from donors from these corporations, the CEOs,

00:11:50.000 the big bankers, those that are catering to Visa, to MasterCard.

00:11:54.340 You know, we hear all the time about all these other corporations in media,

00:11:57.220 in business, in the in economics that are taking advantage of American workers.

00:12:01.800 They want to outsource jobs overseas.

00:12:04.500 Visa, MasterCard are doing the same thing only with these credit card laws that are currently

00:12:08.300 in place and taking advantage of small businesses, taking advantage of banks and taking advantage

00:12:12.580 of other credit card corporations by getting these unnecessary benefits.

00:12:16.060 And this creates an equal playing field.

00:12:18.500 The Republican Party for so long with this libertarian mindset of we're going to cut taxes

00:12:22.900 and we're going to give corporate tax cuts and we're going to always side the corporations

00:12:26.900 over the American people.

00:12:28.120 We're going to we're going to always side the corporations over small businesses.

00:12:31.180 But this is a step in the right direction.

00:12:32.960 This is one of J.D. Vance's main priorities in the U.S.

00:12:35.440 Senate before he became the vice president nominee and the eventual vice president.

00:12:39.340 And continuing this with people like Josh Hawley, Roger Marshall, Bill Higertie and others,

00:12:43.320 they're going to be able to facilitate this new nationalist populist mindset into the Republican

00:12:47.560 Party on economics, on trade and on an anti corporatist mindset when it comes to American

00:12:53.200 business.

00:12:54.560 Well, and so why does it what is it about this legislation that makes you label it nationalist

00:12:59.380 populist?

00:13:00.160 Why is this a populist piece of legislation?

00:13:02.800 Well, I think that economic populism is becoming very popular in the Republican Party.

00:13:07.280 You know, we always talk about especially with cutting taxes, with giving benefits to corporations.

00:13:12.180 I think that this piece of legislation shows the Republican Party is asking the American

00:13:17.420 people, asking small business owners and those who have investments in other credit card

00:13:21.560 corporations or other credit card businesses that we don't just care about the two monopolies

00:13:25.780 that are controlling the credit card business.

00:13:27.900 We care about those that are getting the getting a holistic benefit, benefiting all corporations

00:13:33.560 that are using credit cards and benefiting small businesses that you credit card swiping

00:13:36.900 machines.

00:13:37.400 We are going to ensure that this fair ground is given to anybody and not just to the corporatist

00:13:42.320 mindset.

00:13:43.340 And populism is the will of the American people.

00:13:46.660 Nationalism is the will of the American people.

00:13:48.820 And making sure that the American people who own small businesses, those who use MasterCard,

00:13:53.780 Visa and other credit card corporations for their purchases, it's creating an equal playing

00:13:59.140 field for those that are using these swap machines.

00:14:02.740 So if we are able to do this, this creates a anti corporatist mindset.

00:14:06.600 It at least creates a fair playing ground and it shifts the Republican Party to a new

00:14:10.840 idea that we're not just going to side with corporations when it comes especially to causing

00:14:16.620 harm to small businesses.

00:14:18.120 So this legislation is going to do with this amendment.

00:14:21.020 I think that's exactly right.

00:14:22.500 Kenny Cody, where can people go to follow you and to read this new piece?

00:14:26.000 They can follow me at Katie Cody TN on Twitter and true social and find my archive at humanevents.com.

00:14:31.960 All right, folks, go and make sure you're following humanevents.com, bookmarking it, making it

00:14:38.120 your home page.

00:14:39.120 Go there for all the latest news and analysis that you're seeing come out.

00:14:43.600 Of course, you're listening and watching Jack Posobiec, Real America's Voice, Salem Radio

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00:14:55.540 We're going to be taking a quick break right back here at Budapest, Hungary.

00:15:15.260 Today, you know, they talk about influencers.

00:15:17.960 These are influencers and they're friends of mine.

00:15:22.220 Jack Posobiec.

00:15:23.760 Where's Jack?

00:15:24.680 Jack.

00:15:25.540 He's got a great job.

00:15:28.320 All right, folks, Jack Posobiec.

00:15:32.200 Here we are back live.

00:15:33.720 Real America's Voice, Salem Radio Network.

00:15:35.820 We're coming to you all the way from Budapest, Hungary, where I'm attending CPAC Hungary.

00:15:41.520 And as an additional bonus, I have the honor of participating in an interview with Prime Minister

00:15:50.320 Viktor Orban.

00:15:51.940 And this interview, so it's myself.

00:15:54.520 You've got Michael Knowles.

00:15:55.760 You've got Ava Vlar, a number of people.

00:15:58.140 Not a lot, though.

00:15:59.280 Mariana Fall was there.

00:16:00.440 And so a number of people who were asking questions and a lot of interesting discussion

00:16:07.100 with Prime Minister Orban about various issues that are affecting not only Europe and himself and the rest of the world.

00:16:14.360 And I think for a lot of people, his comments on Ukraine-Russia conflict and his role in attempting to try to bring the sides together, to bring some kind of a peace deal together, are quite interesting.

00:16:26.120 And so I'll be able to report them to you.

00:16:28.500 So this interview, the format of it, it's going to be released later on by the Hungarians.

00:16:36.780 And so we, this was an interview I took part in, not for the show proper, but we'll be able to play you clips of it.

00:16:43.060 And I got to say, he was very candid.

00:16:46.120 He was very candid about his meetings with the Ukrainians and his meetings with the Russians.

00:16:51.920 And what he said about the Ukrainians is that when he went to meet with President Zelensky, he said, I think that you should take a peace deal because I don't believe you have time on your side.

00:17:03.040 And whatever deal you take now will be better than something you may get in the future.

00:17:09.240 At to which point, Zelensky essentially rejects the deal and rejects any idea and says, we have time on our side and we can defeat Russia militarily.

00:17:18.900 Okay. And then he says he went to Russia and basically asked the same questions of the Russians and said, and their response was, we don't want to take the deal because we have our time on our side and we believe that we can militarily defeat the Ukrainians. 0.63

00:17:37.420 And so you've essentially got a stalemate there in terms of at least the diplomacy, but where you don't have a stalemate is on the front lines of this war, on the lines where the drone strikes keep going back and forth, where the Ukrainians, and we had Jim Ferguson on yesterday talking about this, have attempted to another assassination attempt on Vladimir Putin,

00:18:01.180 where they send a drone swarm at his helicopter in Kursk on Russian territory, then you see it respond with these missile volleys as well as another drone volley on Moscow.

00:18:13.280 But on the ground in these areas of the Russian speaking provinces and areas in the east, the Russian military continues to gain territory every day.

00:18:22.580 What President Trump, of course, has been asking over and over is there's got to be some way to stop this. There's got to be some way to have a peace.

00:18:32.440 And instead, that's not what's happening. And for Prime Minister Orban's perspective, he said this is something that he's wanted a lot as well, because the greatest threat of all would be that of nuclear war.

00:18:46.420 And also, by the way, earlier today, we will be able to play this for you, had the opportunity to interview the foreign minister of Georgia, who's here visiting today.

00:18:55.280 And when I sat down with her, I asked her that question as well. And we certainly agreed on the idea of wanting to prevent nuclear war and this being the highest possible use of diplomacy, whether in Europe or anywhere else, vis-a-vis Iran, vis-a-vis China, etc.

00:19:13.120 And so the reasons that we're looking at all of these questions, the reason why it matters to the United States is just that. We don't want nuclear war.

00:19:24.100 And Prime Minister Orban said something very directly to us. He said, I believe that the only negotiation can be made between Russia and the United States.

00:19:33.860 And Russia and Ukraine only isn't enough to get to the actual answer here.

00:19:39.280 Also, kind of interestingly, towards the end of this discussion, I had the opportunity to ask Prime Minister Victor Orban, I said, you know, we've been having an issue with the United States government in the previous administration, because, well, Joe Biden was in the presidency, but we're not actually sure who the president was.

00:19:59.500 And I wanted to know if you had any thoughts on the matter, Prime Minister Orban.

00:20:04.100 Orban responds, we never thought that he was the president.

00:20:07.760 And he left it at that.

00:20:09.900 And then I said, well, hold on.

00:20:11.940 If he wasn't the president, who do you think was the president?

00:20:17.080 And to which he responded, now that is the most dangerous question of all.

00:20:22.840 Folks, who was running the United States government during the Biden administration?

00:20:29.160 Yes, we know in name, people like, as we've said on this program so many times, Dr. Jill Biden, Steve Reschetti, Jeff Zentz, Ron Klain, Tony Blinken, Victoria Nuland, making all these decisions up to themselves.

00:20:45.500 The real question was, is really the decision maker there?

00:20:49.620 And ultimately, we know it wasn't Biden, which means, by the way, those pardons are null and void.

00:20:58.880 Hunter Biden, did you pardon yourself?

00:21:01.760 He probably did.

00:21:03.000 Folks, we'll be right back. 0.69

00:21:03.960 Jack Posobiec, Real America's Voice, Salem Radio Network, Cuban Events Day.

00:21:07.260 And Jack, where is Jack?

00:21:14.560 Where's Jack?

00:21:16.680 Where is he?

00:21:17.960 Jack, I want to see you.

00:21:21.620 Great job, Jack.

00:21:23.060 Thank you.

00:21:23.820 What a job you do.

00:21:25.260 You know, we have an incredible thing.

00:21:26.640 We're always talking about the fake news and the bad.

00:21:28.940 But we have guys, and these are the guys who should be getting Pulisic.

00:21:32.420 All right, Jack Posobiec back live.

00:21:37.060 CPAC Budapest going on here in Hungary.

00:21:40.940 Had the opportunity earlier today to sit down with the foreign minister of Georgia.

00:21:45.760 Play for you that.

00:21:46.320 That for you.

00:21:46.600 We're so honored here on Human Events Daily to be sitting down with Maka Borchstili.

00:21:51.780 She is the foreign minister of Georgia.

00:21:54.780 Madam foreign minister, thank you so much for joining us today.

00:21:56.900 Thank you very much.

00:21:57.980 So tell me, what brings you to CPAC?

00:22:00.580 Why come to CPAC now?

00:22:02.420 Well, I think that's the best value to show that we are ready to fight for values that

00:22:11.160 need to be defended because that's very important today.

00:22:16.900 Values that are Christian values, values that are shared widely and that are under attack

00:22:24.100 for under the name of liberals very much in today's Europe and not only in Europe.

00:22:30.620 We see that it is very much related to security, to stability, and it is very much related to

00:22:39.360 defending democracy as well.

00:22:41.240 So that's very important.

00:22:42.740 And this really seems to have been the biggest story that I'm putting together.

00:22:48.300 The theme is sovereignty versus globalism.

00:22:52.360 And because there's a paradox here, an irony where in order to, for those freedom fighters, for those

00:23:01.100 sovereignists, people who respect their culture, their heritage, their national identity, we are

00:23:09.380 faced constantly under threat from Brussels, from Davos, from the party that supports war, the party that supports all people having open borders and spreading between cultures.

00:23:21.060 And so the parity, of course, paradox, of course, is that even though we are not globalists, we can be friends.

00:23:29.800 Absolutely.

00:23:30.800 Because this is real friendship.

00:23:32.800 And you respect the differences, but you understand when you have a common interest.

00:23:38.540 Absolutely.

00:23:39.540 Absolutely.

00:23:40.540 And I think Georgia is the best example of how these fights can be conducted.

00:23:45.540 Because defending sovereignty is essential to protect national interests, and national interests can protect peace and security where we live.

00:23:55.540 So that's very important.

00:23:56.540 And Georgia is a very good example, especially in today's world, to look at us.

00:24:01.540 And it is good to see, and we are happy to see, that we are not allowed alone, and there are people who also share the news that sovereign rights of nations need to be respected, and sovereign rights are not bad, and sovereign rights can also be global, and we can also be friends and share our common interests.

00:24:25.540 Well, this originally was the purpose of the United Nations, I thought, was to protect the rights of individual nations.

00:24:34.540 And yet we see so many times that these organizations, whether it be the UN, whether it be the EU, whether it be WHO, and so many of these other things, it turns out that they seem to be the ones who are now encroaching on rights.

00:24:49.540 And, of course, in Hungary, there was the issue of George Soros NGOs. We have the same issue in the United States. However, President Trump is cleaning that up.

00:24:59.540 We have this issue all across Eastern Europe where these non-government organizations will come in and then try to take power away from actually the elected governments.

00:25:12.540 And in many cases, they will be supporting governments that have nothing to do with the interests of the people of that area.

00:25:19.540 So, again, Georgia is a very good example. We did not like Soviet Union because we did not have sovereign rights under the Soviet Union, right?

00:25:28.540 And we liked European Union because our expectation is that this is the union of free nations where sovereign rights are respected, sovereign rights of nations.

00:25:41.540 But unfortunately, again, we see instrumentalization of this topic of European integration and using this topic against sovereignty of Georgia, which is a very painful process.

00:25:55.540 And, again, that is something very important. When we talk about contemporary Europe, today's European Union, it is important that for the sake of European integration, for the sake of European future, respecting the sovereign rights of nations, that matters a lot.

00:26:16.540 That's very important that we respect the sovereignty of the countries, for the sake of security of Europe. That's very important.

00:26:27.540 And I'm coming from the United States. We're not a member of the European Union. We are a member of NATO. We are members of the United Nations and a number of these organizations.

00:26:37.540 And yet, from President Trump's perspective, and from our new Secretary of State, Marco Rubio, it's been a total shift in the policy of the administration where, rather than forcing other countries to go along with whatever policy we want, all that they've been asking are for the rights of free elections to be upheld, such as Romania, the rights of free speech to be upheld all across the world.

00:27:06.540 And, in many cases now, we're hearing a new theme that trade deals and potentially even security compacts will be judged based on the upholding of free speech and free elections in all of the countries where we are doing these kinds of deals.

00:27:23.540 What would your message be to the U.S. side from Georgia's perspective?

00:27:28.540 Thank you for mentioning that, because what we hear from a new administration in the United States, what we hear from President Trump and State Secretary Rubio, it's very promising, in a sense that that's exactly what we were talking about for many years in Georgia.

00:27:47.540 And respecting democracy, first of all, means to respect the choice of people, what people choose for their government.

00:27:56.540 And that, again, Georgia is a good example of how we fight to defend the choice of Georgian people, Georgia nation, because government is under attack, because somebody doesn't like what Georgian people decided to have.

00:28:12.540 And that's a good example.

00:28:13.540 And that's, again, a good example.

00:28:14.540 We have faced quite strong pressure in Georgia, and I think that we need to, and especially when it comes to relationships with the United States, we have big hope that this negative era, which was coming from pretty much dictated by deep state, will end.

00:28:36.540 We will end, and we will have possibility to renew Georgia-U.S. relationship, and to use this relationship for the benefit of United Nations, United States' interest, and Georgia's interest.

00:28:51.540 And I do believe that we do have common interests, and we have to work for that, and for that we do need to cooperate.

00:28:58.540 Ever since the fall of the Soviet Union, as you mentioned, there's been a question of the relations between the post-Soviet states and the United States.

00:29:09.540 And so we saw the emergence of countries like Belarus, like Ukraine, like Georgia, so many other, Kazakhstan, so many others that have come in.

00:29:17.540 So these are non-EU member states, and yet are their own states in their own right.

00:29:22.540 So the question, obviously, of the normalization of relations between the U.S. and the post-Soviet nations.

00:29:29.540 Do you believe that President Trump has the ability to do this?

00:29:32.540 Look, Georgia is the country, post-Soviet country state, that has been always the most reliable partner for the United States.

00:29:44.540 We have been always there to show that we are reliable partners for the United States.

00:29:50.540 Georgia has been the largest non-NATO country contributing to NATO missions when it was in the interests of the United States.

00:30:00.540 So that is something very important to take into account when we talk about Georgia-U.S. relationship.

00:30:07.540 and also look at the reasons.

00:30:11.540 If we see that this is not in a very good shape today, what are the reasons for that today?

00:30:18.540 And that we will definitely go to that so-called deep state and what is run from there

00:30:25.540 and why this relationship is maybe not in a best shape today.

00:30:29.540 So we have to look at that, find the reasons and work for the best interests of the United States and Georgia.

00:30:38.540 President Trump is committed to pushing for peace deals, not only between Ukraine-Russia confrontation,

00:30:46.540 but also Israel-Gaza, a peace deal potentially or a nuclear deal with Iran as well as potential peace in Asia, China, Taiwan, all of these various issues.

00:31:00.540 Do you believe this is the right approach?

00:31:03.540 How does Georgia do these discussions? 1.00

00:31:04.540 Absolutely, absolutely.

00:31:06.540 Again, we know very well what peace means and what is the price for peace and how important it is for future development and for everything.

00:31:17.540 That's why Georgia was the country that supported U.S. position in United Nations when it was introduced about peace in Ukraine.

00:31:28.540 And we are very much supporting to find peaceful solution of conflict. That's very important.

00:31:35.540 Georgia itself has 20% of its territories occupied by Russia and we are still looking for peaceful means to find peaceful solution of this conflict.

00:31:48.540 And we know very well how much important it is to secure stability in the country for economic development and for the future of any Georgian citizen.

00:32:01.540 So that's why we think that the initiative of President Trump that is related to peaceful solution to achieve peace in Ukraine is very important.

00:32:14.540 And I hope that they will succeed in this process.

00:32:17.540 We've taken the position and many of us who have been associated with the Trump movement, MAGA, CPAC, they say, are you pro-war? Are you pro-Russia? Are you pro-this?

00:32:32.540 I'm anti-war. We've seen, and my family is coming from a Polish background and they saw World War I, they saw World War II. We don't want to see World War III.

00:32:45.540 Absolutely.

00:32:46.540 That nuclear-armed countries would be the greatest potential threat to sovereignty, to life, to humanity on our planet.

00:32:55.540 And so for those of us who have, maybe we have disagreements over particular issues, all sorts of issues, there's always healthy forums for debate on that.

00:33:04.540 But I certainly hope that standing up against the threat of nuclear war is something all nations can agree on.

00:33:10.540 Absolutely.

00:33:11.540 Absolutely.

00:33:12.540 I mean, again, that's exactly what we are fighting for. This is peace and we are against war. That's absolutely the position of the Georgian government. And we are defending this position.

00:33:30.540 The only thing that we don't want is confrontation and war. And we see that lots of attempts we experienced to somehow destabilize Georgia and to have another hotspot in this area. So that's very dangerous.

00:33:49.540 And we are standing for peace and we are very proud to defend that peace in our country and not only in our country that is related to region.

00:33:59.540 I don't want to take up too much more of your time. It's a busy event. I understand you have a busy schedule. Do you plan to come to the U.S. anytime soon?

00:34:05.540 I would love to and I hope that it will happen sometime soon.

00:34:08.540 Well, when you come, please come visit us in Washington, D.C.

00:34:11.540 Thank you very much.

00:34:12.540 Thank you very much, man.

00:34:13.540 Thank you.

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00:34:22.540 And he's been my friend right from the beginning of this whole beautiful event.

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00:35:26.540 All right, Jack.

00:35:27.540 So we're back live final segment here from, or today's show, I should say, from Budapest, Hungary.

00:35:33.540 Although it is not my final day in Budapest, Hungary.

00:35:37.540 We'll be here tomorrow as well as CPAC Hungary continues.

00:35:40.540 In fact, I'll be finishing up my own.

00:35:43.540 We're going to be doing a live interview on stage tomorrow at CPAC Hungary.

00:35:49.540 But this question that I had the opportunity to ask Prime Minister Victor Orban, I think it's something that's very salient for a lot of Americans.

00:35:58.540 Was Joe Biden really the President of the United States?

00:36:02.540 Was he really the one who is actively making these decisions?

00:36:05.540 Was he really the one who is actively deciding who gets pardoned?

00:36:11.540 And if Joe Biden wasn't actually signing these pardons, who was it?

00:36:15.540 Who was it really?

00:36:16.540 I got a question, Hunter Biden.

00:36:18.540 Did you actually pardon yourself?

00:36:20.540 Did you think that you could get away with pardoning yourself, Hunter Biden?

00:36:23.540 I think you did.

00:36:24.540 I think that's exactly what went on here.

00:36:27.540 I think it's very obvious, and I think a lot of people are starting to understand that it's very obvious.

00:36:31.540 When I first said this, I think it was about two weeks ago, people were, they weren't ready to hear it.

00:36:36.540 They weren't thinking about it.

00:36:37.540 They were saying, oh, no, no, no, no, no.

00:36:39.540 There's other stuff going on.

00:36:41.540 You'll see.

00:36:42.540 You'll all see.

00:36:43.540 Now we get to the thick of it.

00:36:45.540 It turns out, yeah, yeah, it probably was.

00:36:48.540 Because we said, from the very outset, I said, you got to target the pardons.

00:36:53.540 The pardons are everything.

00:36:55.540 Because if you knock the pardons down, then guess what?

00:36:58.540 You can put an investigation, the FBI, Dan Bongino, and Cass Patel, go and open a direct investigation into them immediately.

00:37:05.540 But you got to knock the pardons down first.

00:37:07.540 So what did I say?

00:37:09.540 People don't understand the chess moves here.

00:37:11.540 If you knock the pardons down, then you have the ability to go after them for those crimes.

00:37:16.540 You can't open an investigation into a crime someone's already been charged, or excuse me, pardoned for that you can't charge them for.

00:37:22.540 You could open investigations into other things and sort of talk around it.

00:37:26.540 There's also an interesting angle on this, is that Hunter Biden, in maintaining this pardon that he got from his father, allegedly, actually loses his Fifth Amendment protection.

00:37:41.540 What does this mean?

00:37:42.540 So, in order to have Fifth Amendment protection against testifying, that means you can't testify against yourself, and you can't testify to criminalize yourself.

00:37:54.540 So you can't be forced to testify that you committed a crime.

00:37:58.540 Now, you can, by the way, go on the stand as, say, like Kyle Rittenhouse did, of course, when he was on trial back in 2021, and you could waive your Fifth Amendment rights and then go and testify if you want to.

00:38:09.540 However, however, if you accept a pardon, your Fifth Amendment rights do not apply.

00:38:16.540 And your Fifth Amendment rights don't apply because you cannot be incriminated for something or time period or actions wherein you have full pardon, you have immunity over.

00:38:30.540 So you can, in fact, be subpoenaed.

00:38:34.540 So Hunter Biden right now could be subpoenaed by the House, which, you know, you could figure why he wasn't.

00:38:39.540 So you could open an investigation into Burisma. The House could open an investigation into Burisma right now and subpoena Hunter Biden and force him to come and force him to testify.

00:38:48.540 And guess what? There isn't a thing he could do about it.

00:38:51.540 There isn't a thing he could do about it. Why?

00:38:54.540 Because he can't plead Fifth.

00:38:56.540 That also involves, you know, that's also a criminal matter, et cetera, et cetera.

00:38:59.540 So let's also, let's also, by the way, go back to the pardons.

00:39:05.540 Anthony Fauci, Biden.

00:39:08.540 At this point, it's very clear.

00:39:10.540 Hunter Biden pardoned himself.

00:39:12.540 And how do we know this?

00:39:13.540 Well, Human Events Daily for years was telling you that the White House was being run by people who were essentially top levels of the Biden junta.

00:39:26.540 And we talked about Team B and Team K.

00:39:30.540 That was Team Biden, Team Kamala.

00:39:31.540 Years.

00:39:32.540 Longtime Human Events Daily listeners are going to say, Jack, why are you talking about this again?

00:39:35.540 Well, you told me a million times.

00:39:36.540 Well, guess what?

00:39:37.540 There's a lot of people who are acting like this is brand new because Alex Thompson and Jake Taper started talking about it.

00:39:43.540 Well, guess what?

00:39:44.540 Just because they started talking about it doesn't mean Human Events Daily wasn't four years.

00:39:48.540 They're numbskulls when we were talking about it day in and day out. 1.00

00:39:53.540 We were giving you the play-by-play of what was actually going on behind the scenes from these people.

00:39:58.540 We knew.

00:39:59.540 We had the inside scoop.

00:40:01.540 And now they're coming out four years later and they're, oh, we got this big bombshell.

00:40:04.540 Well, it turns out that Jeff Sens and Ron Klain and Jill Biden and Hunter Biden were running the Biden White House.

00:40:10.540 Human Events told you that day one.

00:40:13.540 We told you day one.

00:40:14.540 We told you day 10.

00:40:15.540 We told you day 100.

00:40:17.540 We told you every single time who was actually behind it.

00:40:20.540 If you want to listen, if you want to listen back then, maybe you'll listen.

00:40:25.540 Guess what?

00:40:26.540 It's just as true.

00:40:27.540 Ladies and gentlemen, as always, you have my permission to lay ashore.

00:40:31.540 Thank you for sure.

00:41:01.540 We'll be right back.

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