Human Events Daily with Jack Posobiec - EXCLUSIVE INTERVIEW： WHITE HOUSE PRESS SECRETARY KATIE ZACHARIA

00:00:00.000 Hey guys, it's Jack. I'm excited to let you know that finally the new edition of Unhuman

00:00:05.000 Socialist Revolution is available for pre-order. It's coming out in October. You can get it at

00:00:11.020 unhumansbook.com or amazon.com. Make sure to go and learn the tactics to crush the communist uprising.

00:00:23.280 This is what happens when the fourth turning meets fifth generation warfare.

00:00:30.000 a commentator international social media sensation and former navy intelligence veteran

00:00:38.760 this is human events with your host jack persovic christ is king spreading like a lot

00:00:45.040 of disinformation and lies on commercials about me uh saying things like i want to abolish prisons

00:00:51.560 and i want to defund the police why would i want to do that when i want her locked up

00:00:56.280 and punished in jail for what she has done and so you know we are going to continue to stump on

00:01:03.020 this campaign trail all across the state from the panhandle to the keys and we're looking forward to

00:01:08.360 them calling me senator on november 3rd you we're both christians and and the bible is silent on the

00:01:14.440 issue of abortion it means you and i both have to look at at different scriptures to try to come

00:01:19.240 to a conclusion to add that the bible is not silent on abortion there is the ten commandments

00:01:24.100 that should not kill. And as Catholics, we take great insults, I guess, sometimes was

00:01:30.480 spouted that way. New details about the investigation into Democratic Congresswoman Ilan Omar of

00:01:35.540 Minnesota. Sources are telling News Nation that investigators did seize her phone during a raid

00:01:41.040 on her D.C. home on Monday, and at least 15 subpoenas have been issued, including to some

00:01:46.440 of her relatives. However, a subpoena doesn't mean somebody is accused of a crime, and several

00:01:51.700 reports suggest investigators could be building a case to strip Omar of her citizenship.

00:01:57.140 President Joe Biden's Justice Department collected information on at least 639,000

00:02:03.300 Republican voters, donors and supporters. The information, including employment records,

00:02:10.600 physical addresses, credit card numbers and even people who purchased red MAGA hats and

00:02:16.120 Trump memorabilia. Chuck Grassley saying the new findings, quote, further corroborate that Jack

00:02:22.060 Smith and his partisan team aimed to map out the entire Republican Party apparatus. We begin with

00:02:27.960 the midterm elections and new economic figures that challenge President Trump's campaign message

00:02:32.240 on the economy. The president rallied for Republican candidates in Arizona and Montana

00:02:36.800 after we learned prices rose nearly four percent in September compared to a year ago.

00:02:41.840 Polls show the economy and the cost of living are voters' number one issue this fall.

00:02:46.340 The Treasury Department now slapping a massive $1.2 billion fine on Bank of America for allegedly violating anti-money laundering and sanctions laws.

00:02:57.040 Federal officials say the bank failed to flag years of suspicious financial activity, including transactions that raised serious national security concerns.

00:03:05.200 This morning, the Pope is recovering in the hospital after undergoing a surgery to remove a cancerous mass in his lung.

00:03:12.660 Vatkin saying doctors removed the lower lobe of Pope Leo's right lung during a minimally invasive surgery at Rome's Gemelli Hospital.

00:03:20.020 An examination of the tissue confirmed lung adenocarcinoma.

00:03:23.740 Initial reports suggesting the cancer was caught early.

00:03:27.580 And police officers' deaths in the line of duty have reached an 80-year low.

00:03:32.500 that's so good. And we're bringing the death penalty back for anybody that kills a police

00:03:36.860 officer, by the way, or anybody in law enforcement. And I will tell you, the drugs coming in.

00:03:46.180 We have some breaking news. A moment ago, President Trump providing an update on the

00:03:50.420 execution of Nidal Malik Hassan. That was a guy who killed 13 people in the Fort Hood shooting.

00:03:57.460 Now, President Trump says it will no longer be live streamed, posting on true social this. 0.99

00:04:02.500 I think streaming the execution for all to see might have been a strong deterrent for the world to witness how America deals with terrorists and scum like Hassan. 0.92

00:04:10.880 But many very good and well-meaning people would rather not watch him die through streaming or through any other visual device. 0.97

00:04:19.700 He will die as scheduled by firing squad, but this event will not be streamed.

00:04:24.760 That said, the execution may be viewed in person by the immediate families of the victims if they so choose.

00:04:32.500 They deserve to witness justice. So that news just out from President Trump.

00:04:36.900 That we do in fact see a 2026 Senate map if the polls underestimate Republicans by two to four points.

00:04:44.660 Well, remember all that blue that was on the map before? All that blue went bye-bye. See you later.

00:04:50.500 Adios amigos. Sayonara. Those Democratic chances and those Democratic hopes down there into Lake Erie.

00:04:58.180 Look at this. Now what we're dealing with, if in fact the polls underestimate the Republicans, is 53 Republican Senate seats compared to 47 Republican seats.

00:05:08.900 Maine, that stays red. How about a flip in Michigan where Abdul Syed, very neck and neck in the polls with Mike Rogers.

00:05:15.980 Ohio stays red. Iowa stays red. Alaska stays red.

00:05:20.860 Now, I will note, I will note that even in this scenario, right, you still get a situation where North Carolina stays blue and Georgia stays blue.

00:05:33.100 But Texas goes red. See you later.

00:05:35.600 Ken Paxton gets elected to the United States Senate.

00:05:38.380 No James Tallarico.

00:05:39.780 So a very clear Republican win in the Senate if the polls are underestimating the Republicans like perhaps they did in 2020, like they did in 2016, so on, so forth.

00:05:50.380 And on the House side, what about this?

00:05:52.360 What about the House side?

00:05:53.000 By the way, I'm getting a little schvitzier.

00:05:54.480 I think I'm going to have to have a drink in a second.

00:05:56.140 If the polls undershot the Republicans by greater than three points, well, that's all you need.

00:06:01.180 That's all you need for Republicans in order for them to actually probably hold on to the U.S. House of Representatives.

00:06:07.540 They would likely win 218-plus House seats.

00:06:12.060 And keep in mind, this polling error absolutely has happened before.

00:06:16.400 Therefore, when we talk about the race being within the margin of error, the House of Representatives, even if Democrats are favored, it is still within the margin of error that Republicans can win if we see polling misses like we have before.

00:06:28.980 Well, ladies and gentlemen, welcome aboard today's edition of Human Events Daily.

00:06:33.040 We're here live in Washington, D.C.

00:06:34.720 Today is, of course, October 15th, 2026, Anno Domine.

00:06:39.860 Today we had the honor of sitting down with the new White House Press Secretary, Katie Zachariah.

00:06:48.200 And we just pre-taped that interview with her over at the White House.

00:06:52.720 And it was an incredible moment to be able to go in there.

00:06:56.680 Obviously, a lot of transitions happening at the White House.

00:06:59.520 A lot of time looking at our country where we're three weeks at a time in our country

00:07:04.720 where we're three weeks out from a midterm election, a key, crucial midterm election,

00:07:10.740 where there are a lot of questions about how Republicans will make out in that.

00:07:16.180 And, of course, Katie Zachariah now joining the White House in a White House that is moving full speed.

00:07:24.940 And this was something where today it worked out on—what can I say, folks?

00:07:29.420 It worked out schedule-wise for us here at Human Events

00:07:31.420 because we know the president is bringing the press secretary everywhere he goes.

00:07:36.540 His schedule is, of course, nonstop.

00:07:39.360 He was in, and immediately after appointing Katie Zachariah, they took off for Alaska, then over to Arizona, Montana.

00:07:48.560 I believe he has new rallies coming up later this week.

00:07:53.100 They're looking at Kentucky.

00:07:54.340 They're looking at another number of different places out there.

00:07:57.180 And so this is the thick of things for the midterms.

00:08:02.240 And, of course, us here on the program, we've been going around quite a bit as well.

00:08:06.920 We went to Texas with the vice president.

00:08:09.280 We then also went to San Diego with the Secretary of War, Pete Hegseth.

00:08:14.440 And so for the sit-down, it obviously was an incredible honor for Real Markers Voice to be able to do that, to be able to sit down.

00:08:22.940 And I just got to go over with Taylor Mitchell, who is, of course, our correspondent there at the White House.

00:08:29.900 And it's a real moment for new media.

00:08:33.120 It's a real moment for independent media to be able to come in to tell people that we're not going anywhere, that new media is here to stay, that we are, in fact, driving the narrative.

00:08:47.380 And real America's voice is at the forefront of it.

00:08:51.860 And so now please enjoy our sit-down interview with the new White House Press Secretary, Katie Zachariah.

00:08:56.980 All right.

00:08:57.380 Well, we are here at the campus of the White House sitting down with the new Press Secretary, Katie Zachariah.

00:09:05.240 Katie, thank you so much for joining us here on Human Events.

00:09:07.120 Thank you, Jack.

00:09:07.740 You're my first interview.

00:09:08.940 Indeed.

00:09:09.460 But it's not our first interview.

00:09:10.880 You, of course, have been on the show many, many times.

00:09:13.000 Congratulations on the new role.

00:09:14.560 Thank you.

00:09:15.100 It is such an honor from President Trump to come be the White House Press Secretary.

00:09:19.640 Jack, I've been wanting this job since I met him, and I wanted the job in 2016, but I was

00:09:24.640 having a bunch of kids.

00:09:25.640 Indeed.

00:09:26.640 So that's one of the things, of course, you know, we wanted to ask about.

00:09:30.640 Walk us through the process.

00:09:31.640 You know, people are saying as much as you can, obviously, you know, people were saying,

00:09:36.640 you know, that it was, that it was rushed.

00:09:38.640 People were saying that it was, there's some controversy around it.

00:09:42.640 The selection was, wasn't, how does President Trump approach an appointment like this?

00:09:46.640 like this? Well, I want to back up because originally I was getting a many, many inquiries.

00:09:52.740 When Caroline Levitt left, do you want to put your name forward? Journalists reaching out,

00:09:57.860 reporters reaching out, do you want to put your name forward for this role? And I said, absolutely

00:10:01.880 not. I am not lobbying for this job. I do not want my name anywhere near a journal or any kind of

00:10:09.380 news outlet. I just don't want any press on this. Why? Because my philosophy is I'm on TV enough

00:10:18.060 where if he sees me and he likes me, then I will be recruited for the job. I do not believe that

00:10:23.860 lobbying for that job would have been successful. And I wanted to work for it. I wanted to audition

00:10:28.760 for it. I think that's a much better way of encapsulating it. And so I tracked every news

00:10:34.960 hit to be in accordance with what policies he was pushing forward, particularly on Truth

00:10:39.860 Social, since I was the senior communications advisor for Trump Media and Technology Group

00:10:44.560 and Truth Social, where I would track what's important to President Trump, and I'm going

00:10:49.820 to go on the news and talk about it.

00:10:51.280 So in a sense, you were already performing the role in a capacity for Truth Social, because

00:10:56.620 of course, that's where he puts out all of his statements.

00:10:58.940 Yes, yes, absolutely.

00:11:00.280 And I wanted to, what I love doing is to give context for what he was discussing.

00:11:05.800 So, for instance, we both lived in China, and he was catching flack from the media.

00:11:11.580 Oh, he's being too deferential to Xi Jinping.

00:11:14.240 And I really wanted to give context for how you do business in China and why President

00:11:19.660 Trump's approach is actually the effective way to get the deal done rather than deleterious

00:11:24.220 to the deal.

00:11:25.200 And he's actually, by showing deference to Xi Jinping, effectuating his ability to get that deal rather than just kowtowing or showing favor.

00:11:36.180 Well, it's, as you know, from living in China, it's the concept of face.

00:11:40.040 And he's showing face.

00:11:41.980 He's giving face.

00:11:42.920 He's showing respect.

00:11:44.100 They show respect back.

00:11:45.400 That's very much East Asian and China in general, that someone who is from there would obviously know, or had spent time there, would know that.

00:11:52.340 Yeah. And really, Jack, a lot of the American people don't understand that. And so when Xi Jinping came out to the United States and President Trump hosted him, the criticism of pomp and circumstance was actually it's so means you just really don't understand what happens in China.

00:12:07.580 and that President Trump is after a deal for the American people.

00:12:10.440 He has never deviated from being America first.

00:12:14.400 Everything he does for Americans is for Americans and is America first,

00:12:19.020 including showing up and giving deference to Xi Jinping when he comes to visit.

00:12:24.100 And so what I love to do is to be able to communicate that to the American people.

00:12:28.680 Why is your president doing these things?

00:12:31.440 And although he's getting criticism, I'm going to come up and support him

00:12:34.380 and say exactly why his policy is right on the money.

00:12:36.980 and he is right on with his deal making and the way he's engaged all around the world,

00:12:42.020 I think, is just it's so necessary to have someone who can communicate the why,

00:12:46.260 because there are many critics in the media and many unfriendly voices that don't want to see us

00:12:52.100 win. And we need a team of people who can celebrate the wins and explain why what he's doing is

00:12:58.340 helping win for America. So you're out there, you're doing the job for True Social. What was

00:13:04.340 the process like the president uh you know i've seen reporting that said the president called

00:13:08.820 you directly did you know that you were perhaps um you know in the running how did that how did

00:13:14.340 that go i didn't know i was in the running because again i was very specific about not lobbying for

00:13:19.460 it and the i was taking my youngest son to a pumpkin patch field trip day so he stayed home

00:13:26.820 from school he's he's five about to turn six and i was getting ready to go and i got a phone call

00:13:33.220 And I was very excited by this phone call from from the president and basically, in short order, flew out on Thursday to meet with him on Friday and accepted the job on Friday and then had to fly home, Jack, on Saturday back to California and pack up all my suitcases because I was only in D.C. with a carry on bag and a hotel and packed up two suitcases.

00:14:03.220 saw my kids, flew home on Sunday, or flew back to D.C. on Sunday, and then started the job on

00:14:10.840 Columbus Day, which is a federal holiday, Monday. But he asked me to be in office on Monday,

00:14:15.700 and Monday I showed up. That's, I mean, that's obviously an incredibly hectic weekend, I think.

00:14:21.180 So you go from, you go from Friday at the pumpkin patch to Monday morning at the podium, basically.

00:14:26.000 Well, Wednesday at the pumpkin patch. Yeah, Wednesday phone call, Thursday flight,

00:14:31.060 Friday meeting, Saturday flight, Sunday flight, Monday, Columbus State Federal Holiday, start work,

00:14:38.420 wants a brief, Tuesday morning. And typically, Jack, briefs are in the afternoon, 1 p.m., 1.30 p.m.,

00:14:46.280 where the press secretary has an ample amount of time to have discussed with all the necessary

00:14:52.820 people, get all the right information, be briefed, and walk out. And this was a very different

00:14:59.100 in incoming intake I basically had the brief the briefing materials got to me

00:15:05.820 the evening on Monday because again it was a federal holiday so we got Monday

00:15:13.140 Monday Columbus Day is when I got the briefing materials and then Tuesday

00:15:18.160 morning they were completed and I woke up at 3 in the morning on Tuesday to

00:15:22.500 prepare with what I had but they weren't finalized until we didn't finalize

00:15:26.880 everything until about 8 a.m. And I never had a full briefing beforehand. And I went out and I

00:15:36.840 effectuated the briefing. Now, there were some people were asking questions. I noticed about

00:15:41.400 the length of it. I also noticed that just looking at the president's schedule that he was flying to

00:15:46.320 Alaska. Was that because of that travel or were you planning to do one with a normal length is

00:15:52.780 about an hour yeah so knowing knowing that white house protocol is pretty specific it was absolutely

00:15:59.840 my goal to keep it short considering he is his own best spokesperson and he be he would love and does

00:16:07.860 love gaggling with the media as as he goes to marine one and so i wanted to give ample deference

00:16:14.260 and not barge into his time because you knew he was about to because i knew he was about to so my

00:16:18.960 So the gaggle was already planned.

00:16:21.280 My original understanding is that my briefing would be at 9.30 and by 10 at least or earlier,

00:16:28.800 and that there would be then a quick movement out and we would be going on Marine 1 at 10.

00:16:34.180 Okay, so you knew that he would be speaking and then the flight to Alaska.

00:16:36.840 Yes.

00:16:37.240 Understood.

00:16:37.740 Yeah.

00:16:38.260 I want to back up a little bit.

00:16:39.760 Now, you mentioned, so you did mention about spending time in China, you know, that I have as well.

00:16:44.600 and there's been this whole question, Wall Street Journal did a huge piece about this,

00:16:50.560 you know, this question about, of course, everyone wants to know your legal background,

00:16:54.920 your legal resume. I read the piece, talked about how you had graduated from Pepperdine,

00:17:00.900 sat for the bar, didn't go your way, but then instead of sitting again, you went and moved

00:17:05.100 to China. Walk us through that whole story. What's going on there? Yeah. So I think it's

00:17:10.300 important to have the context of my husband and i had a long distance relationship only from he

00:17:16.700 lived in beijing china where he was already there he was already there his his his dad introduced us

00:17:22.300 to each other his dad was an adjunct professor at pepperdine law and he said do you want to meet my

00:17:27.100 son and i met his son and and his son lived in beijing and so it was long distance while i did

00:17:32.380 law school and he was practiced or he was in private equity an american private equity company

00:17:38.300 in china i had already pre-registered to take the bar and i didn't want to withdraw from that and

00:17:45.260 we knew we would be moving out to china and i was obviously incredibly i know distracted and

00:17:52.060 overwhelmed and excited for finally being married to someone who had been long distance from for

00:17:56.700 at least a year a year and a half when you include the engagement and we just said let's

00:18:04.460 let's take this time and i'll take the bar and see what happens the results are somewhat

00:18:10.700 inconsequential because i knew i wouldn't need the bar in china and um and we left for shortly

00:18:17.260 thereafter and after moving to china i think i didn't i didn't really think much of the bar

00:18:23.820 results or consider that something that i needed to focus on and i was offered a job at a in an

00:18:30.220 international practice division of a of a Chinese law firm called Zhonglin Law Firm and the

00:18:35.660 international practice were four associates under a senior partner and we worked the international

00:18:42.380 side the English language side and we had a Chinese counterpart that was there there's no

00:18:46.780 Chinese bar I had the enough credentials which was my law degree to be able to do this practice and

00:18:52.460 these were multi-million dollar shareholders agreements and transactions that were cross-border

00:18:57.100 and there I had all the necessary requirements to do that and I was able to do it effectively

00:19:03.900 and well and have going recommendations from the senior partner who oversaw my time there.

00:19:08.300 So when when you eventually do come back and I'm just doing the timeline here you eventually do

00:19:12.460 come back why didn't you decide to go back and try the bar again? Well when we moved back Jack we

00:19:19.180 We got a surprise baby. Our first baby is, this is his birthday today, and he is 12 years old.

00:19:28.600 And he, we got pregnant and we decided, all right, well, we're going to stay in the United States

00:19:34.300 and we are not going to move back abroad because that was still an option. We were considering

00:19:39.000 maybe Singapore or somewhere. My husband is more than fluent in Mandarin and very,

00:19:45.420 very good with the business culture in Asia and particularly in China and Chinese-speaking

00:19:51.920 countries. So that was still an option on the table that we might move abroad. And when we

00:19:56.740 got pregnant, we, in short order, he found a job. We got health insurance, which was kind of

00:20:01.700 important in having a baby. And we had four kids in six years. So 2014, 2016, 2018, and 2020, boy,

00:20:10.440 girl, boy, boy. A lot of the misinformation, miscommunication, Jack, is around the fact that

00:20:16.880 I labeled myself lawyer, and I consulted for a very long time. Many people in the field,

00:20:25.300 is it okay and acceptable if I label myself lawyer, not attorney at law, not Katie Zachariah

00:20:32.180 Esquire, but lawyer, and provide legal analysis, not legal advice? And they said, absolutely,

00:20:38.320 absolutely across the board you can call yourself a lawyer you have a JD and to

00:20:43.280 buffer that you have international legal experience and transactional law which

00:20:47.860 gives you the ability to analyze it not necessarily give advice and so that's

00:20:52.480 that's where a lot of this discussion has come from and you know it's

00:20:58.000 unfortunate that people dub this is some kind of conspiracy or want to put me in

00:21:04.780 camp the truth is is i was very careful how i executed this and i never came across as someone

00:21:09.740 who was an attorney at law do you plan to weigh in on legal matters as you're with the president

00:21:16.060 as you're with others is that something that's going to be part of your duties here as press

00:21:19.420 secretary no no the for the press secretary my job is to amplify and communicate

00:21:25.500 his message and to interact with the press and build relationships and strengthen relationships

00:21:30.300 and communicate clearly the message of the administration and i only intend to do that

00:21:36.380 and i'm not being hired as white house counsel and that's the long and the short of that you

00:21:42.300 you say you choose family over going into the practice of law and i totally understand that

00:21:47.980 as a family self you know tanya and uh that being said though you're moving into this position

00:21:54.860 it's a tough job it's it's long hours you've just come back from i think a four state swing

00:21:59.880 How are you going to balance that out?

00:22:01.620 Well, first of all, my family is going to be moving over to Washington, D.C.,

00:22:06.080 and that from California, and will be in this area.

00:22:09.600 And the truth is I look at this as an element of service to my country,

00:22:15.000 that I have for my whole life been a political guru growing up on Rush Limbaugh,

00:22:22.440 Sean Hannity radio, and really the entire fountain of my conservative upbringing was Rush Limbaugh

00:22:32.080 and the EIB network behind the golden mic. And that was all my memories as a kid were

00:22:38.860 conservative politics. I was known through even late elementary school, middle school,

00:22:46.720 high school as being the kid that debated president of college Republicans at Pepperdine.

00:22:51.620 And so this has been a lifelong passion. And truly, as I have four kids, Jack, I look at serving President Trump and the ability to serve President Trump at this historical time as a way to protect the integrity of our nation, the sovereignty of our nation, to fight for the president, who I deeply believe saved this country.

00:23:15.600 When he won in 2016, he reset America's trajectory.

00:23:20.080 We were all being told Hillary was going to win.

00:23:23.660 The golden days or the glory days of America were over, that China was on the horizon.

00:23:29.300 I remember this very distinctly, having just come from China, thinking, how is China the next country on the horizon? 0.63

00:23:36.580 They don't even have proper toilets.

00:23:38.880 and and I think that the when President Trump won I said our nation will be reset and and that for

00:23:47.260 me to preserve our republic for my children though it will be hard though it will be it has been hard

00:23:53.480 it is the most rewarding job to be able to serve him and that in turn protects my children

00:24:00.280 in their duration and my grandchildren and even though it's going to be these years of that I

00:24:06.940 won't necessarily be with them as much as I could Jack they will have the longevity of their country

00:24:12.460 because of President Trump and the service that I can provide to him and to our country oh I know

00:24:17.320 you got to run but there is one last question and all the guys said you got to ask her so I'm just

00:24:22.960 going to say it Saturday Night Live you know they're going to be coming you know this Saturday

00:24:27.880 they're probably going to be doing something who would you like to have play you on Saturday Night

00:24:31.920 life that's uh i know it's coming yes um i think who would i like to have play me maybe a scarlett

00:24:39.840 johansson type character i could see that yeah because she's on there a lot yeah i could see

00:24:43.600 that are you gonna watch i you know i i'm not watching anything right now except uh what he's

00:24:49.980 doing and focusing on what the president's up to and trying to amplify that jack i do not want to

00:24:54.580 see any of the other X or Instagram or TV right now. All right, we will see. Katie Zachariah,

00:25:02.240 best of luck to you. Thank you so much for joining us here once again on Human Events Daily.

00:25:05.560 Congratulations. Thank you. All right, folks, Jack Posobiec, here we are back live, Real America's

00:25:14.040 Voice. And there was Katie Zachariah, her first sit-down interview since becoming the White House

00:25:21.400 press secretary. A lot of interesting details. I thought the behind the scenes, President Trump

00:25:27.760 calling her up in the pumpkin patch when she was with her children. So obviously someone who is a

00:25:34.920 working mom, but at the same time, someone who understands family values. And specifically,

00:25:40.860 when I asked her the question, how do you balance the family with a job like this? And she said,

00:25:46.320 it's about serving the American people. It's about serving the country because of her children,

00:25:53.740 because of the family that she has. That's the reason that she wanted to step up and come there

00:25:59.660 and as well as moving the family across the country to be here in Washington, D.C. And I

00:26:06.500 understand that she mentioned it was her oldest son's first, or excuse me, not his first,

00:26:11.700 which was his oldest son's, her first son's birthday.

00:26:14.260 I want to go on now.

00:26:15.300 We have Rich Barris, the People's Pundit on.

00:26:19.660 Rich, wanted to get you on.

00:26:21.400 You know, I'm sitting here kind of, you know, in the middle of all of this.

00:26:25.360 What was your take on the interview?

00:26:28.060 And then also sort of the press secretary's first week or, you know, first moves there writ large?

00:26:34.660 Well, first of all, Scarlett Johansson, I told you.

00:26:37.920 All right.

00:26:38.280 It had to be Scarlett Johansson.

00:26:39.840 You did.

00:26:40.460 That's what you said.

00:26:41.160 all right now you're breaking the fourth wall that's right rich and i were talking beforehand

00:26:44.920 and i said i said i'm dry i'm on my way to the white house i said rich i gotta ask her about

00:26:50.240 snl i gotta ask her about snl and you right off the top of his head rich is like scarlett johansson

00:26:56.000 look it's just like she is funny she can be funny when she wants to be

00:27:00.180 and uh you know it just was seemed to be the the most appropriate one you know yeah but look i think

00:27:06.660 that was a really good interview um first of all i didn't know that much about katie so i'm sitting

00:27:11.480 there listening to it and it was interesting uh you know how it is with the media these days jack 0.79

00:27:16.000 you get like these you know just simple headlines that are that are dumb and don't really drill down

00:27:21.880 at all so i was watching that with interest and i i enjoyed it um but i also think you know that

00:27:27.300 there was um you know that it's an important to have a press secretary that understands the

00:27:33.020 president's vision and what made the president popular and appeal to the american public it's

00:27:39.000 important to have somebody like that around in that position it just is well and and you could 0.95

00:27:44.860 you could hear that that this that you know her you know katie's background of course she didn't

00:27:49.660 talk about you know other than you know the focus on on the overseas work she didn't really talk

00:27:57.160 about how she had had a background and think about it, Rich, what the, the normal, you know,

00:28:03.440 role of a press secretary is other than, you know, president Trump's previous with Caroline

00:28:07.840 Leavitt and now with Katie Zachariah. Normally it's, you've worked corporate with comms for a

00:28:11.800 while. You've done, you know, a lot of those numbers, those, a lot of those clients. Then

00:28:17.060 you've worked your way up from the podium to the next podium, but that's not what president Trump

00:28:21.680 has done he's actually picking people now from the MAGA movement itself not from the establishment

00:28:29.260 and the fact that he's picking people from the MAGA movement who have come up through the ranks

00:28:34.440 that way that's why the establishment hates people like this isn't it yeah I was I was going to bring

00:28:41.160 it up anyway if you weren't going to look did you hear what you said you know I came up through the

00:28:45.520 eib ranks i mean i mean the eib reference that's like that's like that's i mean that's pretty i'm

00:28:52.340 i was sitting there saying man like someone you could say you're like oh i know rush limbaugh i

00:28:57.720 used to listen to rush whatever but then saying eib is like okay that's that's right it's that's

00:29:02.620 legit that's how you know that right that's how you know when somebody says eib that's how you

00:29:08.500 know that's legit and look it'd be remiss not to bring up that there were um you know there were

00:29:15.080 certain people who wanted other picks and look they wanted their neocon picks i'm just going to 0.85

00:29:20.080 go ahead and say it and um you know it is what it is tough nuggies all right so yeah look this is a 0.94

00:29:25.600 big big podium and for people at home who don't really know uh you just heard her give the story 1.00

00:29:34.080 you know about how this came about and i was talking to somebody the other day i won't break

00:29:39.440 the fourth law again but i was talking to somebody the other day and he was like you know you know

00:29:43.740 i've been at this a long time you know how long press secretaries take to prepare you know and

00:29:49.620 she jumped right into this thing so it's it's just something that a lot of people don't know

00:29:54.380 at home and need to you know keep in its context brother it's context right so uh you know there

00:30:00.920 there just also has to be said that there are just going to be some people who it's the way

00:30:06.020 the white house works you know all white houses you know people want um voices that more mirror

00:30:12.000 their worldview and what they want and i think that that faction has had a run at this now for

00:30:18.420 several months i think it's time like you said uh you know to pick people from the maga movement

00:30:23.260 and give that a try and and look that's that's that's what i'm gonna stick with because that is

00:30:28.920 what it comes down to and and the fact of the matter is that when people asked about look and

00:30:33.960 there were serious questions about hey what's going on with this this legal situation and i

00:30:39.280 thought that the answer you've it's a story you've heard before I think from a lot of people

00:30:43.780 they go to law school and then they decide to not practice they go on to do other things and for her

00:30:49.780 she said she went and Pepperdine by the way is not an easy school is a good school it is a tough

00:30:55.460 school to get into in the first place so Pepperdine graduate but then she met a guy and she decided to

00:31:01.020 go with the family that was something and we'll see you know the media of course will not accept

00:31:04.860 any answer. But that being said, there's going to be a lot of people out there who want to

00:31:09.840 criticize the fact that she decided to put family over the career, that she decided to do that. Now

00:31:16.380 they're going to say, oh, will you use this word incorrectly? But again, that is going to be

00:31:21.720 something that they're going to have to go through. And it's going to be something where I think

00:31:26.400 clearly, and that's why I asked her the question. I said, are you going to be weighing in on legal

00:31:29.980 matters? And she said, no. She said, I'm not the general counsel. I mean, Rich, it's not like

00:31:34.220 She's a Supreme Court nominee, right?

00:31:36.340 And so, you know, she's the press secretary.

00:31:39.080 It's going to be press matters.

00:31:40.560 And I thought that the answer of saying that this is, you know, well, then why take the job?

00:31:45.560 She said, also because of my kids.

00:31:47.480 Because of my kids and because of the state of the country.

00:31:49.780 I thought that this was humanizing, and I thought it made her seem like a real person. 0.72

00:31:54.660 So a quick break.

00:31:55.760 Right now, Rich Barris here, Human Events Daily, right back only on Real America's Voice. 0.51

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00:34:39.940 All right, back on with Rich Babish.

00:34:41.920 We're talking about our exclusive sit-down interview, Real America's Voice, Katie Zachariah.

00:34:48.120 And, Rich, we talked about how Katie comes from the MAGA movement and really sitting down with Real America's Voice or sitting down with new media at all as a first interview is a massive, massive signal.

00:35:03.460 And it's a testament to the fact that the White House clearly looks at new media as a place to set the narrative because, and we've had a number of members of the administration on recently, including the vice president as well as the secretary of war.

00:35:18.120 And they've used our program to break news, to set out new policies, now to do a first interview.

00:35:24.920 It's very clear that the huge through line through all of this is that they understand that this is about the establishment versus independent media versus new media.

00:35:36.400 And the idea that the White House press secretary is doing the first interview with a show like this as new media is a huge, huge sign of that.

00:35:45.700 it's you know what it's more than that and not to glaze you here but i'm being deadly serious when i

00:35:50.920 say it also matters who you pick through those venues because i'm a pollster i'm an elections

00:35:56.440 guy and i'm looking at the numbers and okay who do republicans got to turn out who do they have

00:36:00.540 to excite this was really smart um of katie to sit down with you and do this i mean you said it

00:36:05.920 before we went to the break you said it humanized her it did but it's more than that if you're the

00:36:10.120 administration and you want to reach the people that you're having trouble motivating right now

00:36:14.260 you got to go through og maga to do it you have to i mean people who have those og maga bona fides

00:36:20.400 um there's a lot of new faces on the scene they're doing a lot of good work sure but there is a

00:36:26.260 difference between who certain groups trust and listen to uh so i think what they're doing is

00:36:32.220 smart i wish they would have started to do it earlier but you know what better late than never

00:36:35.520 and um i was going to say this before that segment ended last last block you know this this is good

00:36:41.900 I like what I'm seeing here. I mean, there are changes that are happening. It happens all the

00:36:45.640 time with every White House. After the midterms, we're going to get more folks. There are people

00:36:50.100 who have been in positions right now that are already past their average tenure. A lot of these

00:36:55.060 positions are very high turnover. It's a very, very serious burn rate on them. They're burning

00:37:01.080 both candles at both ends kind of jobs. And if this is any indication of what the president

00:37:07.540 intends to do this is the right move this is you know this this is the right move again better late

00:37:13.120 than never i would have liked to see him do it a little bit earlier but this is good well and and

00:37:16.980 and not to not to push back but the administration has always brought in a lot of new media to uh to

00:37:25.440 the white house but uh to do something on such a high level as this is as as far as i can tell

00:37:31.460 it's unprecedented i can't think of another another time where we've seen something like this and of

00:37:37.420 course you know the rest of the media is now and you know i'm people i'm starting to see clips and

00:37:42.500 and uh you know clips and and people bringing things up from our show and it's like that's

00:37:49.580 right you've got to cite real america's voice now you've got to cite human events you've got

00:37:53.780 a jake tapper when he was getting up there told jake taper over on cnn saying saying pete hanks

00:37:58.960 sitting down with jack pasobic and you know you know it just he has he has to give us credit and

00:38:06.200 it, it drives them absolutely bonkers. And so it made sense that, you know, and actually I didn't

00:38:12.160 know that either about, about Katie. It said, she said, well, I was, you know, I grew up listening

00:38:15.540 to Rush Limbaugh. I said, what? And I was almost going to add, if we were doing more of a podcast

00:38:20.340 kind of format, I would have added that, you know, I, I didn't get into Rush until I would say

00:38:25.720 college. I was definitely in, already in college when, when I started listening, but man, once I

00:38:30.920 started listening, I did not stop. I like, you know, just to go down memory lane here a little

00:38:35.780 bit i started with rush early and i remember um working young and you had to get working papers

00:38:42.260 back then i'm not sure how it even works now but back then up north in tri-state area you had to

00:38:47.260 get working papers um and i got a job with this guy who was super liberal you know i was like 17

00:38:52.720 years old and he used to come in the office he had a coffee import and roasting company which by the

00:38:57.600 way sold to hillary clinton and he loved it you know i mean that was that kind of guy he sold her

00:39:02.680 chinese silver oolong tea and once a month he would deliver the bag to this place where she

00:39:07.820 told him to drop it off and that was like the pride and joy of his month right and i would sit

00:39:13.200 in that office and listen to the eib and the golden microphone he hated it but what was he

00:39:19.000 gonna do he can't tell his employee he can't listen to what he wants to but yeah i mean cut

00:39:23.080 cut my teeth on russian on the very first presidential election that i could vote in

00:39:27.920 And I'm listening to Katie just go through this.

00:39:30.300 And it was good.

00:39:31.040 This was, it was a good interview.

00:39:32.980 And by the way, I'll just say it again.

00:39:35.420 You just got, you just interviewed the vice president before that.

00:39:38.880 I mean, and right after that, you had Pete Hegg.

00:39:41.220 And there's a reason why the vice president's interview did as well as it did because he sat down with you.

00:39:47.020 Part of what you just described is, it's virility.

00:39:50.500 I mean, when you have them say, and the vice president sat with Jack on Air Force Two today.

00:39:56.660 uh you know that the right loves that stuff they know what it means and uh they love them means

00:40:02.520 that you're shifting the window here jack and uh it's long past time because yeah there's going to

00:40:08.120 be a role for the legacy media you know and at least for the foreseeable future will they be as

00:40:13.920 trusted as they once were ever again i doubt it but there'll be a role and they'll be there and

00:40:19.400 it's it's almost like a win i don't know what else to say but it's a win that to force them to have

00:40:25.400 to acknowledge and say look uh we now have to we have to now throw to human events and this is the

00:40:31.380 clip you know rich uh i remember and she mentioned you know she mentioned in the interview she said

00:40:36.780 well i've wanted to do this in 2016 and and that's to me i took that as a reference of saying that

00:40:41.300 you know i took that a reference of of saying that yeah 2016 was when a lot of us got you know

00:40:46.960 involved or re-involved i had been in you know college republicans and stuff like that in the

00:40:51.280 past. And, but it was that 2016 reference and that 2016 moment and experience when I really

00:40:59.140 turbocharged getting back involved in politics. And there's no question about how the, that it

00:41:05.420 was stunning and historic when the president came and did get to see him very briefly as he was,

00:41:11.160 he was with the firefighters today on the Rose Garden, but I did briefly get to stop by that

00:41:15.340 event. Didn't have a chance to talk to him, but did you briefly see him out there? And he's,

00:41:19.920 you know, he's going straight back to work, even if you're getting off the off the plane from

00:41:23.360 Montana late last night and heading off as well. But but there's no question that it was that 2016

00:41:30.260 energy that made the difference. And people used to describe the 2016 election. I remember

00:41:34.240 somebody said it once. The 2016 election was kind of like an argument between the headline and the

00:41:39.640 comment section of an article. And I said, that's exactly what's going on. It's an argument between

00:41:45.560 the headline and the comment section of the mainstream media. But that comment section

00:41:48.880 went and turned into social media

00:41:51.180 and that social media turned into new media.

00:41:53.720 Now we have Real America's Voice.

00:41:55.420 Now we have Rumble.

00:41:56.880 We have so many different getter.

00:41:58.520 Truth Social, of course, where,

00:41:59.680 and by the way, her coming from Truth Social

00:42:01.860 made all the sense in the world

00:42:04.280 because in the Truth Social and the new media space

00:42:07.640 that they totally get how that ecosystem works

00:42:11.460 and it's just something that the mainstream media

00:42:13.940 doesn't understand at all.

00:42:15.600 Yeah, let me say too,

00:42:16.720 because there was something else that she said

00:42:18.420 that I took note of, and I have not heard somebody in her position or a similar position

00:42:22.660 really say it and say it with conviction. She believed it in a while. And I think that's been

00:42:27.620 a problem. She said, you know, this is my job. This is screaming, explaining her role, but the

00:42:32.340 president is really his best, his own best spokesman. And I think there have been a lot

00:42:38.280 of voices who kind of forgot that recently. And it muddles them. It muddles the waters and muddies

00:42:43.460 up, you know, it clouds the message, Jack.

00:42:45.560 It really does, because what she said

00:42:47.420 is very, very true.

00:42:49.720 And Donald Trump has always been his

00:42:51.480 best spokesman. It is, Rich. The more he's out there driving

00:42:53.600 it, the more effective he is. Rich, can we

00:42:55.480 hold you? We got one more. Can we hold you for one more, brother?

00:42:57.560 All right, we're holding Rich Barris right back.

00:42:59.500 Human Events Daily, only on Real Red Boys.

00:43:13.460 We're going to call this the Jack Posobiec Appreciation Hour.

00:43:22.860 I can say confidently, I believe, I think Josh Shapiro would be the vice presidential nominee if it wasn't for Jack Posobiec.

00:43:28.940 And that is, I'm going to be honest.

00:43:34.780 All right, folks, Jack Posobiec back live here, Real America's Voice, Human Events, Daily.

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00:45:06.900 And I want to get on with Rich Barris, because, Rich, obviously, look, you've got your book that's out, that's tearing up the charts.

00:45:13.480 It's called Burn It Down. And you have made this thesis out there.

00:45:19.660 And, you know, we obviously we share a co-author, Joshua Lysak.

00:45:22.440 And so we talk about very similar things. Brilliant guy. Oh, yeah, absolutely.

00:45:26.520 And we talk about similar similar trends in unhuman socialist revolution,

00:45:31.640 because you're talking about what's happening out there.

00:45:35.400 And in terms of the people's public opinion,

00:45:38.400 we talk about how that can turn into socialism,

00:45:41.440 turn into an actual revolution in the United States.

00:45:44.680 When we talk about this direction from the White House towards, you know, that 2016,

00:45:51.440 and she brought it up a couple of times, she said 2016, she said Rush Limbaugh,

00:45:54.720 She talked about how and she talked about the fact that China at that point in time, right, going back prior to Trump, we were all told that China was about to leapfrog us and surpass us.

00:46:08.300 And I remember when I was working in China, which was actually a couple of years before her, that, you know, people were saying the exact same thing.

00:46:17.320 And so, Rich, it's what do you think about that energy meeting the burn it down thesis?

00:46:23.580 Yeah. And, you know, first of all, the hardcover came out a little bit after, right, the preorder stage was over, maybe like six to seven days.

00:46:32.920 The president got the very first hardcover copy of Burn It Down. It's also the first signed one.

00:46:38.780 It's it's kind of the part of it's exciting. It's also concerning.

00:46:42.100 and i think back to rush and how he handled donald trump in a very different way the the the rise

00:46:49.580 the ascendancy of donald trump in a very different way than others did and i think it's now looking

00:46:55.220 back it's really clear that maybe even you know rush he was a very smart guy i mean he saw he was

00:46:59.640 like a futurist and maybe he even saw this before many of us did like look this guy is speaking to

00:47:06.860 needs uh that you guys the establishment the political class and either party has not spoken

00:47:12.700 to and if you don't let him deal with it or try to deal with it it could get much much worse than

00:47:19.480 this all right i mean donald trump has turned out to be actually what you would always think a lot

00:47:25.240 of these so you know conservative pundits loved and and dreamed about uh but i think rush did know

00:47:30.580 that that was a very real danger jack you just approach it your book just approaches it from a

00:47:35.040 different point of view but we're arriving at the same conclusion which is you know we don't get

00:47:39.900 complacent america is special but it's not exempt and if we don't rise to this chat these challenges

00:47:46.840 this is what we're going to get and this is what we're going to deal with and even the president

00:47:51.160 knows that you know that even the president understands um that you know it's either

00:47:56.560 maga or mom donny brother mom donny looks really ugly no both both physically and spiritually uh

00:48:03.700 That, you know, it's a situation where, no, and it's a situation where, like, when people say, oh, you know, the president needs to listen to people more.

00:48:13.460 Well, he just did that.

00:48:14.460 He just chose someone directly from the MAGA movement, brought them up, someone who, by the way, I don't mean to just say that, you know, this isn't someone who didn't have accomplishments and hadn't worked, had worked with Fix California, had worked with all of the fights that were going on with Spencer Pratt, obviously right now with Steve Hilton.

00:48:33.700 in the fight that he's in, understanding that California had gone so far.

00:48:38.980 And it doesn't surprise me at all that it would be like somebody listening to Rush Limbaugh out in California

00:48:45.840 who understands what, who just gets it and would understand that your society, your entire state,

00:48:53.600 state like California, which was so great in the 1990s, so great up through the 2000s,

00:48:58.280 and then went completely down the drain very, very quickly would understand that they have

00:49:06.020 to get up and go and fight. Because the only way to respond to that is through politics.

00:49:11.480 And President Trump, again, by the way, New York City, right? Not exactly a guy,

00:49:16.080 New York City, LA, what we're talking about, not exactly a place that's associated with

00:49:20.760 traditional conservatism, but that's kind of the point, isn't it?

00:49:24.200 It really is. And I remember going back even in the beginning of this thing, and they would always try to pin him down, a lot of them, because he would interview with everybody, left-wing media, right-wing media, and they would always try to pin him down because of the way a Republican primary works, you know, try to get him in that lane where he's not winning that many very conservative primary voters anymore.

00:49:44.880 And they would try to get him to, you know, obey those litmus tests. Right. And obey the dogmas of the primary voter. And he would call himself a common sense conservative. And he would he would embrace it. He bear hugged it. Jack, he would say, you know, this I'm from Queens. I'm from New York City. You know, I'm I'm a conservative, but I get things done. I want to get things done. If it makes sense, then that's conservative to me. I'm a common sense conservative.

00:50:09.980 It was almost like a better attempt of what the Bush family tried to do with compassionate conservatism, which he won the election with and then promptly abandoned it.

00:50:20.520 Right. But Trump didn't. He never did. He always said, look, you're not going to pigeonhole me into this.

00:50:25.840 And, you know, if it makes sense for the American voter, that's the way I'm going to go with it.

00:50:29.220 And that's why, attitudinally, he appealed to this. It's been something to watch this coalition build.

00:50:35.400 You and I saw it in the Midwest in early days in 2016, and then culminating with 2024, where this is a guy, like you said, I mean, he's a billionaire from New York City.

00:50:47.240 He won 18 to 29-year-olds in the state of Michigan.

00:50:50.520 That's unheard of.

00:50:52.180 And, you know, I remember talking about this with our Turning Point friends, you know, that 10 years ago, that was thought of as impossible, basically, or at least incredibly unlikely.

00:51:01.920 When would a presidential candidate pull something like that off?

00:51:05.400 um and and that that's why that's all the difference in the world jack is that attitudinal

00:51:10.600 and even somewhat ideological difference and i i'm again happy to see him surrounding himself

00:51:16.580 with people who really do and we use this phrase all the time but who really do get it and and not

00:51:21.820 only get it but also get what's at stake because you talk about a state like california and that's

00:51:26.880 the warning and burn it down it's a warning in your book this can happen very quickly and one

00:51:33.020 minute you think you know you got everything under control it's in your grasp and a couple

00:51:37.160 of demographic changes happen a couple of ladder swings and the next thing you know you're california

00:51:41.620 all over the place and it's it's a very very real um you know possibility which by the way rich

00:51:47.620 with just just on that point uh as you and i were i know we're just at the end of the show but you

00:51:52.000 and i were chatting that virginia is undergoing those ladder swings right now isn't it it really

00:51:56.640 is you know they call it the old dominion we might as well just call it the new dominion jack it

00:52:00.860 It doesn't represent, it doesn't reflect, you know, the Virginia that we all came to know growing up.

00:52:06.980 Even many of us who have been in politics for a long time.

00:52:09.520 I remember that was the great white whale for Democratic presidential candidates.

00:52:13.360 They could never put it away.

00:52:14.080 They could never get it.

00:52:14.760 They could get Ohio, but they couldn't get Virginia.

00:52:16.960 But now, but what they did is that they grew the D.C. bubble out.

00:52:20.700 And there you go.

00:52:22.500 And they took it.

00:52:22.780 Immigration was a part of it. 0.65

00:52:24.020 And immigration, of course.

00:52:24.740 People need to know.

00:52:25.120 Yeah, it was more like a one-two punch with immigration and then government workers.

00:52:30.540 and how, you know, where the countries

00:52:33.100 from which we were getting immigrants from

00:52:35.400 changed dramatically from the 90s in the 2000s.

00:52:37.520 We are going to do a lot of election analysis

00:52:39.940 in the next couple of weeks,

00:52:41.240 but my friends, we are just out of time.

00:52:42.880 Where can people go to follow you?

00:52:43.620 Sounds good, brother.

00:52:44.460 As always, we're everywhere,

00:52:46.060 at peoples underscore, pundit on X and on Graham,

00:52:48.800 and of course on locals.

00:52:50.020 Go get Burn It Down, folks.

00:52:51.900 All right, folks, from me, Jack Posobiec,

00:52:53.480 ladies and gentlemen, as always,

00:52:54.660 you have my permission to lay ashore.

00:53:00.540 We'll be right back.

Human Events Daily with Jack Posobiec - October 15, 2026

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