Human Events Daily with Jack Posobiec - January 13, 2026


Exclusive Interview with I.C.E Director Todd Lyons

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Director of ICE Todd Lyons joins Human Events Daily to discuss ICE operations in Minneapolis, Minnesota, and how the mainstream media is missing the point on what really happened in the streets of the city. He also discusses the need for ICE to work with local law enforcement agencies and the need to honor ICE detainer requests.

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00:00:47.360 This is Human Events with your host, Jack Posobiec.
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00:00:53.680 Ladies and gentlemen, welcome on board today's edition of Human Events Daily.
00:00:57.700 Today is January 13th, 2026.
00:01:01.180 And, Domini, we are honored once again to have here on Human Events Daily the director of ICE, Mr. Todd Lyons.
00:01:09.520 Todd, thank you so much for joining us today.
00:01:11.940 Thanks, Jack. Good seeing you again.
00:01:14.120 Well, Mr. Director, obviously a lot has changed since the last time you and I spoke right there on the south lawn of the White House.
00:01:21.440 I've just gotten back from Minneapolis myself.
00:01:24.160 Human Events does have a crew that's there on the field.
00:01:27.700 What can you tell us about these operations in Minneapolis that the entire country is talking about?
00:01:33.940 And specifically, I guess I would say, what do you think that the media is getting wrong about the narrative here?
00:01:41.560 You know, I think the first thing, Jack, that the mainstream media is really missing the point on is the fact that they're kind of painting this as an invasion of the Department of Homeland Security resources.
00:01:52.480 Right. That there's such a big surge, you know, an overreach of the government.
00:01:57.700 But what I think a lot of people are losing sight on is two really key things.
00:02:03.400 Number one, the reason what got us there in the first place.
00:02:07.640 The fraudulent behaviors when it came to the Smalley fraud, daycare fraud, social welfare fraud, at the tune of almost $9 billion, right?
00:02:16.640 So we did front load a lot of Homeland Security investigations, special agents up there for that.
00:02:21.400 So that was number one.
00:02:22.660 Number two, obviously Minnesota, Minneapolis in general, is a sanctuary city.
00:02:27.700 So, we were already conducting our lawful law enforcement missions while we were out there.
00:02:32.700 You know, ICE has always been in Minnesota for, ever since the inception of ICE, I would say for
00:02:38.480 two decades plus, we've had a field office for enforcement removal operations, as well as
00:02:45.060 a SAC office, special agent in charge, for homeland security investigations up there.
00:02:50.200 So, we've always been in Minnesota. So, we have seen such an increase of criminally illegal aliens
00:02:56.820 that were not turned over to ICE or other federal authorities and re-released back onto the streets
00:03:02.660 of not only Minneapolis, but Minnesota. So we were already there conducting our law enforcement
00:03:08.620 mission. Now, you take those two parts and incorporate the fact that what the mainstream
00:03:15.300 media is showing is our reaction to all the protesters, the violent agitators, the vehicle
00:03:24.320 ramings, etc., after us getting on scene and trying to arrest one of these criminal legal
00:03:29.940 aliens. We usually make an arrest, five, six special agents, deportation officers.
00:03:36.800 Now we're having to go out with almost 15 law enforcement officers just to provide security
00:03:44.400 for that team making that arrest. So obviously, Minneapolis police were not coming to our help.
00:03:51.840 Minnesota State Police weren't coming to our help.
00:03:54.560 You know, yesterday there was a press conference from the Attorney General, Keith Ellison,
00:04:01.020 and from the mayor that talked about the reason why they were suing DHS.
00:04:05.780 And they highlighted the fact that we're not in Texas or Florida or Utah.
00:04:10.800 Well, what I say to that is when we do conduct our operations down there,
00:04:17.460 A, they are turning individuals over to us.
00:04:20.100 And B, if we have a situation like this, local and state law enforcement partners come to our aid and help federal law enforcement offices.
00:04:28.480 We're not seeing that.
00:04:29.920 So there are so many incidents that the mainstream media is showing that it's just totally unavoidable because of these violent agitators and protesters that are being fueled by such political rhetoric all across this country.
00:04:44.500 Now, Director Lyons, I've got some of the stats here as well.
00:04:47.800 And the numbers that I'm looking at and correct me if I'm wrong, but it says Minnesota and Minneapolis officials have refused to honor over one thousand three hundred sixty ice detainers.
00:05:00.480 And for folks who don't understand this, the way detainer works is that means someone who's been arrested for something else that they just hold on to hold on to them in custody and then remand them to ice.
00:05:11.720 Now, because they're not honoring these detainers, that's the reason why these operations have to take place.
00:05:19.160 But because in other states where you do have that level of local law enforcement cooperation, or I should say really local political cooperation, because that seems to be what the hang up is, these these handoffs can happen at a jailhouse.
00:05:32.760 It can happen at a courthouse, a prison site, something where it's safe, it's controlled.
00:05:37.580 But now when they're just letting them out into the public, that's what's creating such a dangerous situation, not just for your agents and officers in ICE, HSI, but also for the public at large.
00:05:48.340 Do I have that right? It's almost fifteen hundred that they haven't honored.
00:05:53.420 Yep. Almost fifteen hundred. If you look at it right, Jack, make a great point to the fact that I would much rather have the men and women of ICE go into a secure location.
00:06:01.980 YOU KNOW, EVEN IF THEY DON'T WANT TO HOLD THEM THE 24, 48 HOURS FOR US TO GET THERE,
00:06:07.980 JUST NOTIFY US THAT, HEY, IN THE NEXT TWO HOURS WE'RE GOING TO RELEASE THIS INDIVIDUAL 0.98
00:06:13.000 AND WE WILL COME MEET THEM. 0.88
00:06:14.640 WE'LL MEET YOU AT THE BACK DOOR.
00:06:16.140 BUT, YOU KNOW, ONE THING THAT YOU ALWAYS HEAR ABOUT THESE AGENCIES OR STATE OFFICIALS SAY,
00:06:22.120 YOU KNOW, THEY DON'T HAVE TO HONOR THE ICE ATTANTS, WHICH THEY DON'T.
00:06:25.700 BUT WHAT BOGGLES MY MIND IS THE FACT THAT THESE LAW ENFORCEMENT AGENCIES HAVE ALREADY
00:06:31.100 DEEMED THIS PERSON A PUBLIC
00:06:32.140 SAFETY THREAT.
00:06:32.980 YOU'VE ALREADY TAKEN THE ACTIONS
00:06:34.520 AND THE STEPS TO ARREST AND
00:06:35.920 DETAIN THIS INDIVIDUAL.
00:06:37.140 WHY WOULD YOU NOT WANT TO TURN
00:06:38.620 THEM OVER TO THE FEDERAL
00:06:39.540 AUTHORITIES THAT COULD THEN
00:06:40.860 HANDLE THAT CASE TO THE NEXT
00:06:43.240 STEP?
00:06:43.740 IT ABSOLUTELY MAKES NO SENSE.
00:06:45.280 WHEN THEY TALK ABOUT SANCTUARY
00:06:46.320 CITIES, PROTECTING THE PUBLIC 0.79
00:06:48.280 AND PROTECTING NEIGHBORHOODS,
00:06:49.660 HOW ARE YOU PROTECTING THE
00:06:50.480 PUBLIC IF YOU RE-RELEASE A 1.00
00:06:53.060 FELON BACK INTO SOCIETY? 0.99
00:06:54.660 YOU KNOW, I'LL GO BACK TO
00:06:55.820 SECRETARY NOEM'S RIDE-ALONG WITH US UP IN ST. PAUL AND THE CASE THAT WAS HIGHLIGHTED,
00:07:03.900 IT WAS AN INDIVIDUAL THAT WAS LETTING IN THE LAST ADMINISTRATION.
00:07:08.540 IT WAS KNOWN AT THE TIME THAT HE HAD A CONVICTION OF 10 YEARS PLUS FOR KIDNAPPING
00:07:15.180 STRANGULATION AND HE WAS WANTED IN ECUADOR FOR MURDER. HE CAME INTO THE UNITED STATES,
00:07:21.180 He is accused of sexual assault of a child in Connecticut, fled Connecticut with this open warrant.
00:07:27.900 It was now roaming the streets, working, hiding in plain sight in Minneapolis.
00:07:32.040 I don't know anybody that wants to argue with me on the fact that ICE isn't protecting children
00:07:38.440 and protecting neighborhoods when we're out arresting people just like that.
00:07:41.400 And that's the 1300 that you talk about.
00:07:43.680 You know, same day the Secretary Noam was out there.
00:07:45.340 We had two individuals that were released from Rice County, which is close by.
00:07:49.840 They had been released for aggravated sexual assault of a minor.
00:07:55.680 So why would any politician want that individual back in their neighborhood?
00:08:02.820 And we see this again and again, just just like the one out in Portland where, you know, at first we hear that it was a man and woman. 0.61
00:08:11.320 Now, it turns out there are a couple of Trendy Aragua linked, some kind of sex trafficking operation, just just some of the most horrible stuff that you see going on.
00:08:21.120 And it's clear, by the way, and I remember the last time you came on, that's exactly what we talked about.
00:08:26.280 You said that's the worst go first, that those are the individuals that are going to be focused on.
00:08:31.500 This isn't people who are just sort of, you know, running around.
00:08:35.360 It's actually people who have committed these heinous, violent crimes.
00:08:39.280 Now, when we look at that, Rick Ford, you mentioned the ramming attacks, and I wanted to drill down on that a little bit.
00:08:45.340 Obviously, we've seen the incident that's gone throughout the country, throughout the world.
00:08:49.880 People are talking about it.
00:08:51.000 But tell people about the ramming attacks that have gone on as a persistent trend, because this isn't the first time we've seen something like this, is it?
00:08:59.720 No, and unfortunately, it's really increased.
00:09:02.380 Within the past several weeks, we can narrow it down to the past three weeks.
00:09:06.060 WE CAN SAY RIGHT UP MAYBE THE
00:09:08.100 WEEK BEFORE CHRISTMAS WE'VE SEEN
00:09:09.340 OVER JUST ALONE WITH ICE NOT
00:09:11.340 COUNTING OUR OTHER FEDERAL
00:09:12.680 PARTNERS OVER 100 VEHICLE RAMMING
00:09:15.340 ASSAULT INCIDENTS WITH THE CAR.
00:09:17.500 WE FIRST SAW THIS TREND IN MAYBE
00:09:20.700 MIDSUMMER WHEN WE SAW A LOT OF
00:09:22.820 RESISTANCE, A LOT OF AGITATIVES,
00:09:24.680 A LOT OF FOLKS SHOWING UP AT A
00:09:26.020 LAW ENFORCEMENT SCENE THAT HAD
00:09:27.180 NO RIGHT TO BE THERE.
00:09:28.180 AND ALL OF A SUDDEN WE HAVE, YOU
00:09:30.240 KNOW, U.S. CITIZENS, THESE OTHER
00:09:32.240 PEOPLE INJECTING THEMSELVES INTO
00:09:34.340 an ICE arrest and using their vehicle to ram or repeat special agents and deportation officers,
00:09:40.440 thinking that there weren't going to be any repercussions. So in the beginning, we saw the
00:09:44.200 first few, and we just couldn't believe what was going on. The U.S. Attorney's Office was helping
00:09:49.460 us. They were making the arrest. It was great. But now it's just common, the norm. Like you would
00:09:55.360 think there's a playbook right now, and that's what they're using. And, you know, even the
00:09:59.900 criminal illegal aliens now? No. Go ahead and just ram ice vehicles, take off, drive through fences,
00:10:07.560 try to run officers over, because day in, day out, that's a constant tool and impediment we're seeing
00:10:13.700 not only in Minnesota, but all across the country.
00:10:17.340 Well, and certainly that it doesn't help when you have these disruptors that are showing up,
00:10:22.080 clearly fun, clearly orchestrated, that are then aiding and abetting in the escape of these
00:10:27.940 criminal illegal aliens. Director Lines, I know you have to run here. Just have a minute left. I
00:10:32.500 did want to ask, though, we know there's an investigation now that's pending into the
00:10:36.700 officer-involved shooting. Are you able to give us an update on that investigation at all?
00:10:42.060 Well, I can still—no, you know what I can say, Jack, is that we're working with our
00:10:45.340 federal partners with the FBI, Department of Justice. We're looking at all aspects of the case.
00:10:50.960 But hopefully, you know, there'll be a lot of lessons learned from this. And I think on both
00:10:55.420 sides. We have to go ahead and tone down this political rhetoric. And unfortunately, I truly
00:11:00.920 believe that that's what led to this unfortunate incident. Our hearts, minds, and prayers go out
00:11:05.580 to everyone that's involved. No one ever wants to see a deadly force incident. No law enforcement
00:11:10.140 officer ever wants to be involved in a deadly force incident. But the political rhetoric and
00:11:14.720 the demonization of ICE has to stop. And it has to stop with elected officials first.
00:11:18.640 well i couldn't agree more director lyons thank you so much for your time and our thoughts and
00:11:25.040 prayers go out to the efforts of your many agents and officers that are putting themselves in harm's
00:11:30.820 way to take care of cleaning up our streets and cleaning up our country thank you jack again we
00:11:37.220 really appreciate your continued support and it's great seeing you again god bless you all right
00:11:42.500 folks we'll be right back here human events daily that's director todd lyons of immigration customs
00:11:47.860 Enforcement. Right back.