Human Events Daily with Jack Posobiec - October 30, 2026


EXCLUSIVE： POSOBIEC & POOL IN CHICAGO THE GREAT DEBATE

ALASKA： THE DEMOCRAT SCAM TO STEAL THE MAJORITY

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00:00:00.000 Hey guys, it's Jack. I'm excited to let you know that finally the new edition of Unhuman
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00:00:18.940 uprising. Well, ladies and gentlemen, welcome aboard today's edition of Human Events Daily.
00:00:24.240 Today is October 30th, 2026, Anno Domine.
00:00:28.340 It is Halloween Eve, Eve, or as we call it in Philly, Mischief Night.
00:00:33.460 If you are celebrating Mischief Night, I would just like to remind you that I never once have ever participated in such a thing, nor would I do so.
00:00:43.880 Shame on anyone who goes out and participates in this incredible, fun, and glorious evening.
00:00:50.280 But folks, a couple of weeks ago, I sat down with Tim Poole for this awesome debate.
00:00:57.720 We blew the doors off at the University of Chicago.
00:01:00.420 We've never played the footage for you guys before.
00:01:03.400 And that's what we wanted to bring you today.
00:01:05.600 Myself and Tim Poole against the liberal Luke Beasley, defending the president, defending
00:01:12.540 conservatism and defending MAGA against all of the liberal lies.
00:01:17.560 And that is exactly what I wanted to show for you today and to show you the amount of absolute nonsense and misinformation that is being pushed by the Democrats out there today.
00:01:29.700 So strap in. You are going to need some kind of Halloween mask to protect yourself from the liberal gruel that is going to be spilling out of this guy's mouth. 0.97
00:01:40.220 But we fight back and you are going to love it. Stay tuned.
00:01:43.240 you know we were having a discussion how to phrase the the opening conversation because
00:01:48.480 i don't know it's difficult to phrase the general idea is the midterms are coming up
00:01:53.260 it seems like everybody's fractured the right is breaking into a few different factions and
00:02:00.440 moderates could go one way or another but i think the easiest way to look at it is that
00:02:04.040 polls are not so good for republicans and the question is what is happening right now that's
00:02:09.500 causing that to happen. And I don't know, are the narratives true, the arguments from the liberals
00:02:14.620 true? What do conservatives have to say about it? I think it's pretty clear why everybody's expecting
00:02:19.600 a really bad Republican result in this midterms is because Trump at the top of it and the entire
00:02:26.100 GOP has failed completely. I'm actually a little bit shocked that it has been this bad. Well,
00:02:33.200 before I begin, I'd be remiss if I wasn't on stage here in Chicago to even as a guy from the
00:02:39.120 philadelphia area to extend my condolences on the loss of an incredible chicago icon mike dick
00:02:46.760 they were the one of the greatest nfl coaches in all of history
00:02:51.160 as far as president trump look i mean there's no question the iran war is very unpopular
00:02:56.420 um obviously you know i'm not going to debate that it's just true the same thing at the same
00:03:01.380 time though people are asking you know where's all this terribleness that i would ask you know
00:03:07.040 that you're seeing because for a lot of trump voters and myself included trump supporters we
00:03:12.160 are getting a lot of what we asked for and one of those one of the biggest ones that i've seen
00:03:17.080 is the deportations the border let's keep in mind that politics don't happen in a vacuum so if trump
00:03:23.320 wasn't president it isn't just like everything would be um would be the opposite kamala harris 0.98
00:03:30.040 would have been president hell yeah and if kamala exactly so if kamala harris was president just 1.00
00:03:35.160 imagine the floodgates would be open at the border. You'd have murderers, rapists, the mentally insane 1.00
00:03:41.520 from the entire third world spilling over our border the way they were during the Biden wave 0.90
00:03:46.560 for all those years, much, much worse than it is now. You'd have cities where this crime was 0.99
00:03:51.580 running rampant, where you don't have any federal resources, any federal task forces coming in like
00:03:58.040 we have seen, at least in the red states. And again, you would see that exacerbational crime.
00:04:02.600 So the question about whether or not things would have been, you know, could have been better without.
00:04:07.660 No, I think it'd be far, far worse if Kamala Harris had been president.
00:04:12.020 Now, that being said, there's no question.
00:04:14.220 There's no question at all.
00:04:15.360 Gas prices are high.
00:04:16.540 Gas prices are too high.
00:04:18.160 And I've said that from the start.
00:04:19.920 And a lot of voices like y'all misled people to believe that, no, he's going to be your warrior.
00:04:24.760 He's anti-establishment.
00:04:26.060 And in reality, he did what we warned you that he would.
00:04:29.000 I have a question.
00:04:29.640 just to wrap this up, which was to funnel money to the wealthiest at the expense of us. We're
00:04:34.120 paying more because of the tariffs. People are losing their health coverage because of his
00:04:37.720 big bill. And the only people benefiting are the wealthiest Americans.
00:04:42.860 So I do have a question, though, on the so he only serves the oligarchs. He only serves the
00:04:47.460 billionaires. Just real quick question. How many billionaires do you know that work for tips?
00:04:52.320 How many? I already warned you or predicted that you were going to bring up little nuggets they
00:04:57.480 put in there for this exact reason again how many say it's not little reduce tax on tips it's not
00:05:03.060 little but that's why i that's why you have to zoom out and look at how many how many combined
00:05:06.680 effect billionaires do not work on tips to answer your question thank you so i was just in uh just
00:05:11.840 was in las vegas we did the las vegas nascar um the nascar race was last weekend we went out with
00:05:17.340 tp usa we had a big trailer handing out freedom shirts i had so many people coming up to me and
00:05:23.440 i was asking that we were doing these sort of like man on the street interviews how is no tax
00:05:27.120 on tips affected you. Every single person said, we love it. We love it. We love it. We love it.
00:05:31.320 This is great. This is thousands upon thousands of dollars in our pockets over and over again.
00:05:37.180 So I noticed that you're just completely discounting anything that President Trump did
00:05:42.360 in that same bill, no tax on tips, no tax on social security. There's another one. No tax
00:05:48.360 on overtime. Thank you. That don't, quote unquote, serve the oligarch class that they actually are
00:05:54.500 for the working class that you totally skipped over. Well, that's why I went to the combined
00:05:58.960 effect because the way that we can do talking point games until the cows come home is that you
00:06:03.500 show a specific policy. Let me answer you. Right. So you pick a certain policy that was put in there
00:06:08.360 for this exact reason so it could run cover for the broader effect of the bill. Would you not
00:06:12.280 agree that it's a more honest interpretation of his broader economic strategy to look at the effect
00:06:16.400 of his entire economic strategy? What is the economic impact of deportations on working class
00:06:22.440 voters that's a huge question and in some cases all of us suffer because we don't have certain
00:06:31.040 jobs now being done because all of a sudden they're pulled out in some cases you could imagine
00:06:34.400 an economic outcome that has a slight benefit i've seen some analyses that are like marginal
00:06:39.020 benefit to certain workers in certain industries so what is which doesn't come anywhere close to
00:06:43.640 how much those workers are being screwed over by so supply and demand right is is is real correct
00:06:49.560 Can we establish that?
00:06:50.780 We all agree with that.
00:06:51.480 Tim, you good?
00:06:52.060 Supply and demand?
00:06:52.700 Of course. 0.96
00:06:53.140 So if you have an overabundance of a supply of low-income workers, or even with H-1Bs,
00:06:59.200 STEM workers, tech workers, et cetera, and then the supply of those increases, what happens
00:07:05.220 to the demand?
00:07:06.100 Well, actually, there's been tons of research done on the broader impact of immigration.
00:07:09.640 You can think of an anecdote of one person has one job.
00:07:11.240 Does it go up or down? 0.76
00:07:12.140 And so the broader impact of immigration at reasonable rates is that because they're bringing
00:07:19.560 economic stimulation they're really likely to start businesses and and then paying their taxes
00:07:25.100 and paying more into our what does it do for the demand for labor the demand on labor now there's
00:07:30.320 more supply of labor so the demand goes there's more supply so the man goes down correct the
00:07:37.760 demand goes down so what effect does that have on wages and that is the very simple way to think
00:07:41.520 about and so what does that happen and i know tim understands this because of his stance on
00:07:46.360 immigration of course there's some people who need to be deported everybody agrees with that
00:07:49.380 And so I'm explaining to you is that we have had tons –
00:07:54.640 It's a really simple question.
00:07:55.400 Yeah, I'm telling you.
00:07:56.340 We've had tons of research done on the net benefit of immigration because of how the economy is a little bit more complicated.
00:08:03.240 What effect does it have on working class wages?
00:08:03.820 Well, real quick.
00:08:04.460 I'm telling you.
00:08:05.000 It can boost them. 0.82
00:08:05.660 It depresses wages.
00:08:06.660 It can boost them.
00:08:06.960 We need a clarification.
00:08:08.140 It depends on what we're talking about.
00:08:09.120 Are you talking about legal immigration or –
00:08:11.880 Yeah, I'm talking about legal immigration, which I guess doesn't relate to deportation really.
00:08:16.260 It certainly does.
00:08:16.880 No, no.
00:08:17.400 The labor effect.
00:08:18.720 I love legal immigration. 0.88
00:08:20.780 Yeah.
00:08:21.140 No, but the labor effect is it happens regardless of whether it's illegal or illegal.
00:08:26.800 So if you're a construction worker and you're out there and you're having to compete with more and more illegal laborers, or if you're a firm that wants to hire only Americans and only American citizens and doesn't want to go and dip into that illegal labor pool because you know you can pay them less, then guess what?
00:08:43.700 You're going to get screwed over by the firm that does hire the illegal aliens. 0.72
00:08:47.240 This guy is going to say, I can get your project done for half the price of this guy because, and wink, wink, nod, nod, nod, because I use illegal labor. 0.99
00:08:55.260 That's the economic effect that all immigration has on working class citizens. 0.99
00:09:00.680 I'm telling you, that sounds nice. 0.97
00:09:01.820 And that's why all immigration being lessened and mass deportations do help the economics for working class people. 0.87
00:09:10.320 Weird that's not showing up anywhere.
00:09:11.280 I would love to know, for someone who's such an avowed supporter of Kamala Harris and Joe Biden, what is the moral governance? Because I can't think of anything more immoral than flooding this country with mass illegal aliens and mass migration from the third world like happened under Joe Biden. 0.86
00:09:28.740 You seem to be completely ignorant of that in your speech when you talk about how great the economy was under them, when you miss the fact that millions upon millions of people came into this country to a point where we don't even have an exact number on the amount of people that came in in the Biden wave. 1.00
00:09:47.460 We only know that it was in the tens, possibly 10 million.
00:09:51.060 It was possibly 10 million people that came across.
00:09:52.920 It was not.
00:09:53.360 And we have no clue what that did other than, number one, we've already established, it dilutes the wage pool for working-class Americans. 0.81
00:10:00.680 It certainly brought in people who have committed horrendous crimes around the world.
00:10:04.540 And it has made life worse for everyone in this country.
00:10:07.800 Well, you know, I guess this is the modern state of politics.
00:10:10.660 And if we're getting into the conversation of why are we in the place that we're at, we can certainly discuss policy.
00:10:15.020 But I think for the Internet, you know, a good example would be debate is no longer debate.
00:10:21.400 Debate used to be pretty boring, but debate turned into blood sports.
00:10:25.680 And in blood sports, answering the question or actually having meaningful conversation
00:10:29.480 about the facts or the issues is not what's relevant to winning.
00:10:34.220 Our folks are back.
00:10:35.600 Jack Posobiec, Human Events Daily, only available on Real America's Voice.
00:10:39.780 And of course, you're watching this incredible, the great debate between myself, Tim Pool,
00:10:44.520 and the liberal Luke Beasley.
00:10:46.680 And I hope that you are able to make it through all of the nonsense, the misinformation, the lies that are being spewed from the mouth of this absolute liberal legend in his own mind.
00:11:00.460 But here is the next part that I want to bring you to, because this is the best part of these.
00:11:04.420 And, of course, Charlie Kirk was the man that pioneered this and led the way.
00:11:09.680 The questions and answers that we got from all the kids who came out to the event, from all of the students at the University of Chicago.
00:11:16.420 It's absolutely my favorite part.
00:11:18.260 Wanted to make sure that we showed that to you to hear what the youth are talking about
00:11:22.440 on campus, to hear the issues that are important to them, to hear where their concerns are.
00:11:26.980 And of course, when we had the opportunity to correct the record with facts and truth,
00:11:32.000 check it out.
00:11:32.760 I was just sort of curious, I guess, to hear from each of you, like just a reflection on
00:11:36.500 like the quality of the debate that I've heard over the past 45 minutes.
00:11:39.620 Like, do you think this reflects positively on like, I don't know, like free and open
00:11:43.880 discourse and, like, makes people want to be, like, more pro-free speech?
00:11:47.100 Who's the for?
00:11:48.040 Just for all of you.
00:11:49.000 All of us? 0.99
00:11:49.520 Were you impressed with the level of discourse with your interlockers? 0.65
00:11:53.240 Blown away.
00:11:54.080 I give it a C+.
00:11:55.220 I mean, I like Luke.
00:11:57.380 You know, we've talked to him before.
00:11:58.840 Obviously, there was some contention over, I was like, how he was debating.
00:12:02.660 But, I mean, to be honest, like, this is actually as good as it is.
00:12:07.260 It's pretty good.
00:12:07.880 I mean, I say C+, it's a passing grade.
00:12:10.420 I feel like if you had a bunch of dudes in suits
00:12:12.500 with, like, ascots or something,
00:12:14.340 going, like, well, I did, I'll say,
00:12:15.220 it'd be really boring.
00:12:16.760 So what we don't want is threats of violence
00:12:18.860 and people flipping tables over.
00:12:20.940 A little, having it be a little antagonistic
00:12:23.600 is sometimes okay.
00:12:25.100 You know, it's tough.
00:12:26.100 It's tough to find that balance.
00:12:27.120 But I actually think this kind of stuff is actually,
00:12:29.840 this would be great if it was what it was, you know?
00:12:32.760 I agree.
00:12:33.260 I don't, I hate when people characterize, like,
00:12:36.220 passion coming into debates
00:12:38.400 or even kind of argumentative.
00:12:39.900 debatey tone
00:12:42.200 that that degrades the conversation
00:12:44.260 because like you said I think if I don't know if any of you
00:12:46.400 even would have been that engaged if it were just
00:12:48.180 alright now you go for 10 minutes and talk about a bunch of stuff
00:12:50.280 and then I'll go for 10 minutes
00:12:51.080 the feistiness or like
00:12:54.300 the passion is a representation
00:12:56.480 of how we feel
00:12:58.400 in our political discourse out in the world
00:13:00.400 you know what I have to say
00:13:01.840 this man has become
00:13:04.240 my token angry liberal Brian Shapiro
00:13:06.580 you guys know who Brian is?
00:13:07.900 don't talk bad about brian oh my god i mean he's a good friend of mine i text we we have a poker
00:13:12.760 chat we we're texting all the time he's very funny but when you get into politics you think
00:13:18.060 that's bad oh my god i'm always telling brian nobody said they thought i was bad by the way
00:13:22.920 i think um he's beat red he's got like veins pumping he's like trump this and then i'm just 0.74
00:13:27.260 like brian brian what was that joke you were telling me about the hooker again and then he
00:13:31.300 can and then he's a funny normal guy and i i think uh i think any time where you can get people who
00:13:36.820 And I want to commend Tim and obviously to our host here at the Chicago Thinker and just the student body more broadly at the University of Chicago for having this.
00:13:46.920 And I heard that there was a call for the event to be canceled at one point or like a threat that it might be.
00:13:52.460 And the fact that it wasn't, I think that when you sit down and you have people who disagree, and I applaud you guys on getting people who disagree in the same room,
00:14:01.400 that it's better to do that in person
00:14:04.000 because when you reduce individuals
00:14:07.700 to a face on a screen,
00:14:10.700 this two-dimensional view
00:14:11.980 or someone that you can swipe past
00:14:13.920 on a reel or a TikTok or whatever,
00:14:16.600 that you lose that factor of us all being human.
00:14:21.160 And I think we can all think of things
00:14:22.940 that have happened recently
00:14:23.780 where that leads to very bad outcomes.
00:14:27.120 And I think there are better outcomes served
00:14:29.020 by getting people together
00:14:30.320 and discussing those issues regardless of whether or not they're passionate you know that you
00:14:34.380 actually get to a better place as a society i don't know if you guys saw that there were flyers
00:14:38.760 put up outside that say tim pool can't slappy but that's just true so it's it's a it's just
00:14:44.980 telling the truth it is defamatory it's not correct i actually put them up i'm just but
00:14:49.680 but uh my boy brandon took one down we're gonna frame it put in our skateboard skateboard for
00:14:54.820 those who don't know it's like an old school skateboard trick but i was kind of like if
00:14:58.840 that's the argument they have, I'm for it. That's funny. Hi, my name is Alex. I'm a first year. And
00:15:04.640 I think that in the spirit of you guys being on a college campus, I want to ask a question that
00:15:10.020 kind of specifically addresses young people that are about to enter the workforce. They're about
00:15:15.560 to enter the real world, so to speak. And more specifically, my question is about entitlements
00:15:22.000 like Social Security and Medicare who benefit older Americans who are retired and on average
00:15:30.840 have net worths that are far greater than younger Americans who work and who pay for
00:15:39.000 these programs.
00:15:40.300 And the Republican Party has long been or has long said that they are the party that
00:15:44.720 wants to tackle the debt and the deficit and bring spending down.
00:15:49.120 And yet every time they're elected, they never address the two biggest categories of spending, which is Social Security and Medicare.
00:15:59.000 So how do you think that young Republicans like myself and probably other people in this room can kind of retake the Republican Party and try and actually get at the core of the deficit problem?
00:16:13.300 A few big challenges right now is that...
00:16:15.940 Can I just say that? That's a great question.
00:16:17.260 And thank you for asking a very substantive question.
00:16:19.220 So what I'm going to say is this.
00:16:21.960 Gen Z and millennials rival the size of boomers as of today, but not as voting blocks.
00:16:28.240 You will never get a politician to go anywhere near Social Security or Medicaid, despite the fact young people can't afford homes. 0.78
00:16:34.540 They're not having families.
00:16:36.080 They're struggling.
00:16:37.020 And now we had this poll that came out saying that boomers largely would support raising taxes on young people to keep paying their Social Security to make sure the benefits go up.
00:16:45.000 And I predicted this years ago when we were discussing that Social Security becomes insolvent by, like, 2037, drops down to 78% of payout by 2032. 0.68
00:16:54.400 I guarantee you the older generation is going to say, I paid for it.
00:16:58.420 I deserve it.
00:16:59.200 I don't care who you're going to take it from.
00:17:00.780 What's going to happen then is young people are going to have a political revolt, and don't be surprised when you get socialists because they're going to say, you want to take from me, I'll take from you.
00:17:08.920 You own the houses. On average, 75% of boomers own a home, and many of them own two or three.
00:17:15.320 The average net worth of a boomer is $1.6 million. The average net worth of Gen Z is around $60K. 0.59
00:17:21.360 This doesn't mean all boomers are worth $1.6 million. It means that as a generation that
00:17:26.420 votes consistently for the benefits that benefit the poor among them, Gen Z is being sacrificed. 0.61
00:17:32.540 And I describe this as men in society chopping down trees to have lawn furniture so they know the younger generation will never have shade to sit beneath. 0.90
00:17:41.860 And there's very obvious what's going to happen if that maintains itself. 0.75
00:17:45.100 That being said, boomers, with all due respect, we are also at the mortality cliff. 0.96
00:17:49.760 So we are going to start seeing a large die off. 1.00
00:17:54.320 I know it sounds morbid, but it's true. 1.00
00:17:56.960 Now that boomers are 80 years old, their past life expectancy, they're expecting tens of millions to be dying in the next five years. 0.98
00:18:02.540 which is going to radically alter the political landscape in terms of how voting is handled.
00:18:06.760 And I believe the younger generations are hyper-polarized in politics, so I don't know how that manifests.
00:18:12.720 But I would just say this.
00:18:14.680 I would not be surprised if you end up with politicians on the younger side campaigning on abolishing Social Security.
00:18:23.060 You mentioned as a young Republican, and so the pressures that Tim is talking about really only give you two options.
00:18:33.680 There's the option of what he described as everyone goes like full socialist, full DSA, full mandami, you know, we tear it all down, et cetera, et cetera.
00:18:42.640 The other option is that you actually, and this is going to require Republicans to, and a lot of, I think, some of the older Republicans, to kind of mitigate on a number of these issues and actually try to focus on the issues of Gen Z, understanding where they are, Gen Z and millennials, understanding that the economic pressures for them are completely different than they were for Gen X and boomers when they were entering the workforce.
00:19:07.100 Because this is after, again, my friend's massive Biden wave of migration to the United States.
00:19:13.520 They're after the massive changes in the financial institutions due to the financial crisis 2008 and so on, and to globalization.
00:19:23.440 And so, therefore, as a Republican, you have to start getting used to the idea of we're going to enact legislation that actually directly helps young people.
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00:20:29.160 um yeah thank you guys for a lively discussion um my question is i think more about just the
00:20:36.880 future of america um i think that it seems like this especially this polarization it seems like
00:20:44.700 it's a bridge it's a gap that's kind of unbridgeable um but as far as you know we
00:20:52.260 have midterms coming up but i think especially post trump where do you see i guess from each
00:20:58.040 party the um just a successful platform a successful sustainable platform whereas you
00:21:04.600 know on the right um i think either side can want to tear things down you know with social security
00:21:10.320 being an example but is there a way that each party could use these the existing institutions
00:21:16.840 that we have to create a sustainable path for especially uh younger generations going forward
00:21:22.840 Yeah, I think that the first thing I try to remind my audience a lot on my show is that the underlying systems we've created in this country still have so much about them that are excellent.
00:21:35.040 And because people are so upset with the failures of the leaders in that system, they can be persuaded pretty easily from the right or the left towards a tear it all down mentality.
00:21:45.660 So the first thing I'd remind people is that we can elect better leaders who are more functional in government and use our current institutions.
00:21:55.120 I'm not trying to make like a political point that will start something right here, but it's one of the reasons I am so revved up against Trump was ever since, from my perspective, he tried to, you know, delegitimize the 2020 election.
00:22:06.500 i saw that as he was assembling these fraudulent electors and he was trying to stay in office
00:22:11.820 despite him losing the 2020 election as an attack against the underlying foundation that then we can
00:22:18.660 have a bunch of debate we can have shifts in who's in power and it can still keep moving forward so
00:22:24.180 we have to prioritize protecting the institutions and protecting the functional parts of them even
00:22:29.320 as it gets sexier and sexier to like tear it all down and either in like a fascistic direction or
00:22:34.200 our super communist direction. And then I think it's actually simpler than people know. If we can
00:22:39.360 do stuff like this and engage more voters and get them to understand that the system can work
00:22:44.500 if we elect the correct leaders and then pay attention, hold them accountable whenever they
00:22:49.280 fail, we can make the improvements. We don't need some like throw out the rule book and start from
00:22:54.680 scratch. We just need to remind people that we have to have a certain shared core principles
00:23:01.180 about maintaining this democratic republic and then within that we argue we yell and we pick
00:23:07.480 better leaders what i would say is it's a good question on the surface but if you have a nation
00:23:16.500 that is properly educated in philosophy it's the wrong question and that is the bigger picture of
00:23:22.480 everything we are the wealthiest nation on the planet what are we really complaining about now
00:23:26.620 don't get me wrong there are people who live poorly in this country there are things that are bad
00:23:30.580 and it's not to say like you're not you're not allowed to fight for something better in your
00:23:35.820 country because other people have it worse but it does seem to a certain degree that there is a lack
00:23:40.320 of perspective philosophically as to what everyone's actually voting for so i guess my point
00:23:46.000 ultimately is so long as the perception of the average voter is these are my issues and this is
00:23:52.120 what i want to win politicians are going to say i don't care what you actually want all i want is
00:23:57.640 your vote. I don't know how you change that, right? It might just be an element. It might
00:24:02.440 just be human nature itself. I don't blame the trade worker for not knowing the inner workings
00:24:08.160 of Iran or Israel. Are they really going to vote on that issue? They might on a surface level
00:24:13.720 understanding of it. And so politicians largely just say, I got a big room of people. I don't
00:24:19.480 need to get them anything. I don't need to improve their lives. I need them to think that I will.
00:24:25.220 that's what our political system is right now
00:24:27.420 I don't know if you can change that
00:24:29.500 because of the scale of our population
00:24:31.600 I don't know if it's possible
00:24:33.140 to have a government that actually works for the people
00:24:35.540 when you have 330 million people
00:24:36.760 I don't know what scale there is
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00:25:21.440 I'll summarize because I know we want to get more questions,
00:25:24.180 But I think that getting to his question earlier about the underlying issues, especially with young people in this country, and actually, and I agree, actually, Luke, what you said a lot about the systems, disagree on the 2020 stuff, and that I do think that the system is generally good.
00:25:44.220 But the problem is that if we don't address these economic issues and these massive economic imbalances that do exist, yes, and I am the token Republican conservative saying that they do exist, if they're not addressed, we will get a tear-it-all situation, a tear-it-all-down situation.
00:26:01.820 And in a tear-it-all-down situation right now, typically that would lead us to a place where we have a socialist revolution.
00:26:08.020 I literally just wrote a whole book talking about this.
00:26:11.080 That's the way that I see it's going.
00:26:12.900 And I started writing about this in 2024.
00:26:15.720 I said that we're going to get more of that, and we're also going to get the same kind of violence that comes on the back of that.
00:26:21.560 And in the last two years, American politics has become incredibly violent from elements of the far left, and it is only going to get worse if we do not address economic imbalances.
00:26:31.880 Regarding the subject of the culture war, what do you feel that the Republican Party uses the culture war as a means to sort of obfuscate from its failed economic agenda?
00:26:43.560 A specific issue would be transgender athletes in sports.
00:26:47.840 That's a subject that affects very few people.
00:26:50.840 There's probably fewer transgender collegiate athletes in the country than there are people in this room.
00:26:57.120 And yet it's become a sort of national talking point for the Republican Party.
00:27:00.620 why do you think that's the case that they choose to emphasize such a small group of people if not
00:27:05.500 to hide from the fact uh that they don't want to talk about more important issues just real quick
00:27:10.020 but i gotta give a shout out to destiny because you said there's not an epidemic of trans athletes
00:27:13.960 there's an epidemic of liberals willing to defend it i was just gonna i was just gonna make i know
00:27:18.040 that's the point that i was gonna make i said i don't think the issue is that's the epidemic the
00:27:21.680 epidemic is that these are policies that affect everyone and in many cases uh publicly um funded
00:27:28.020 institutions that are required to go along with it so to answer your question absolutely you'll
00:27:34.020 notice you they even have uh like fox news trend here comes the telepathy again by the way analytics
00:27:40.060 about when i think in trump's first term that was the migrant caravan story and then definitely now
00:27:46.340 it's like trans and then hassan piker lately um where right before an election or when things
00:27:52.120 on the bigger, more consequential
00:27:54.420 issues start going poorly for the
00:27:56.440 GOP, all of a sudden there's all these
00:27:58.420 mentions of this topic. And then if they win
00:28:00.360 an election, it goes down for a while, and then it
00:28:02.300 spikes back up when they get nervous that they can't defend
00:28:04.340 their record. And that's what I was talking about
00:28:06.280 earlier. It's not that these issues aren't important
00:28:08.020 and that in the areas
00:28:10.520 where they do impact people, there should be a
00:28:12.360 rational approach to. It's just
00:28:14.340 that we are getting so manipulated
00:28:16.360 by the issues
00:28:18.480 that do not impact all of us in the
00:28:20.480 same way that the other ones we've mentioned today the economy foreign policy etc do because
00:28:26.680 it's so those arguments are so titillating and so exciting in a way that some of the more
00:28:31.600 consequential issues are not so definitely be on the lookout for that you know um you know i
00:28:37.340 probably i voted for trump tim you you supported trump at 24 right so neither neither of us
00:28:44.700 neither of us were the ones that brought up that issue at all like we didn't even we didn't even
00:28:49.580 bring it up until the questions just came so i mean that just kind of proves that that's not
00:28:53.700 actually something that's totally and i'm not saying there aren't republicans and conservatives
00:28:57.200 that do that but to ascribe that to like all republicans is just total cop-out i didn't say
00:29:02.760 all but i just talked about fox news as one example like with they do talk about actual
00:29:07.020 data around they do i'm not saying i'm not saying they don't but i mean we just spent however much
00:29:11.400 time not talking about that but no you know i have a i have a different answer for that kind
00:29:15.920 of somewhere, I guess. You know, a formative moment in my life was when I was in my early
00:29:20.920 twenties and I was working for nonprofits on the homelessness issue. And I found that there was a
00:29:27.300 high density of morbidly obese homeless people. And I was kind of like, wait, wait, wait, what is
00:29:33.020 this? And they were like, oh, like the NGOs will tell you like, yes, like a large portion of these
00:29:37.440 homeless are morbidly obese. And I was like, so they have a lot, they have too much food, but not
00:29:41.420 enough housing and then i was like wow like that's a weird problem for a country to have that your
00:29:46.400 your your impoverished people can't have places to live they're they're eating too much and like
00:29:51.580 my point ultimately is we have there's two ways to look at it problem mismanagement like that's
00:29:59.260 kind of an obvious one but also what is there to complain about is the question and so if fox
00:30:06.560 needs an issue to complain about they found one you know like ratings across the board for all
00:30:14.700 media has been way down fox it's it's not unique to fox but their ratings are down 50 percent in
00:30:19.180 the key demo year over year in an election year because they got nothing to complain about even
00:30:24.060 with the war being bad even with gas prices being high there's only so much you can complain about
00:30:29.740 it and you can complain about it but the first time you say hey people are mad about the war
00:30:35.620 and the gas is too high do they need to hear you say it twice so then you're like can we find
00:30:40.060 something to complain about and i feel like this is a large portion of of you know i'm not i'm not
00:30:44.700 trying to dismiss the cultural issues at the core of our politics but i am trying to dismiss some of
00:30:48.620 them well tim actually the to that point right so you you do story selection every day on your show
00:30:54.040 i do that i'm assuming you do that as well how often do you use that as a lead story the trans
00:30:59.480 trans athletes never the same it's i'm like it's it's it happens obviously i'm against it but
00:31:06.480 it's it's just something where where it's it's not something that i make as a core central 0.79
00:31:12.400 talking point or something i agree but i but i also do think you will you you see it disproportionately
00:31:16.880 in media for some reason i think it's a i think it's i think i think this in loudon county for
00:31:22.040 example because i live right there there was a young male who was not trans who went to the
00:31:27.380 girl's bathroom and raped a young girl i think she was was she 12 or something yeah and then
00:31:31.020 when the dad showed up outraged but i think there was a story that there was he may have been wearing 0.84
00:31:35.820 a skirt yes and and it was like it wasn't but he wasn't trans and then it turned into a defending
00:31:41.020 trans people going into the bathroom of their choice despite it not being the case so i'll say
00:31:46.200 this i have always maintained the position the most apt bathroom for a trans person is the one
00:31:53.060 where they they fit in because you know buck angel being a great example if buck angel who is 1.00
00:31:57.120 biologically female, but on testosterone and very masculine looking, walk into a women's bathroom, 1.00
00:32:00.800 you're gonna have a problem. And so it's not an easy question to answer. I'm not gonna pretend
00:32:03.720 that it is. But somehow questions that are unrelated to the trans issue, like a father
00:32:09.640 getting arrested because his daughter got raped, turned into politically a trans issue. Or another
00:32:14.540 example is in Chicago, there was that teacher that was giving a book called This Book is Gay
00:32:18.980 to middle schoolers who are between 10 and 12 years old. This book describes how to use Grindr.
00:32:23.360 children don't need this it explains and i know this is crude but i already swore so i'll say it
00:32:28.460 anyway the book also describes consuming feces for sexual gratification you do not give that to
00:32:34.100 children when that issue came up it turned into a question of trans people i never was upset about
00:32:40.860 that i was i was like why are you giving a book to kids that teaches them scat and then when i did
00:32:45.380 i get attacked in the media it turns into a question of tim hates trans or whatever and i'm
00:32:49.260 like i didn't make it a trans debate the media and whatever is going on in politics did or a good
00:32:55.100 example being ron de santis when they said he banned books and then when you look there's a
00:32:59.640 report that came out on i don't remember the fault as you may have seen it they're like thousands of
00:33:03.340 books were banned and then 80 of it's porn and you're like why were teachers trying to put porn
00:33:07.800 in the curriculum somehow that porn discussion turned into a trans discussion so i don't know
00:33:13.280 someone's doing it it's titillating or something let's move to the next question you failed to
00:33:18.200 mentioned that inflation has gone from 9% under Biden to 2% under Trump. Yes, it has. We can keep
00:33:25.120 going. I'll explain to you. So stock market has gone up 102%, right? We're energy, energy
00:33:33.940 independent. We have judicial appointments, military readiness, border security, which is
00:33:38.840 number one to me of all. But even more than that, though, it's the conversation about how people are
00:33:44.820 looking at woke things we have less girls uh saying that they're transgender we have less
00:33:50.060 boys engaging in that type of behavior you can look at studies that just came out
00:33:54.300 we can say things that we weren't allowed to before and even your people people on the left
00:33:59.800 has said woke one point my name is cory howard uh i run a homeless association in the woodland
00:34:06.580 community that's contiguous to the university of chicago so i do want to say this one thing uh we
00:34:11.280 We're not the richest country in the world.
00:34:13.220 We have the richest citizens in the world,
00:34:14.840 and people need to make that distinction
00:34:16.280 because what we're talking about is spending.
00:34:18.020 All spending comes back as a tax,
00:34:19.800 as Milton Friedman teaches us.
00:34:21.200 So we don't want more government control.
00:34:23.480 The Democrats are running on restoring USAID.
00:34:26.420 I get it.
00:34:26.920 You want that program back up and running
00:34:28.420 because of the non-profits, the N.G. Joes, I get it. 1.00
00:34:30.920 But we had an institution over here, 0.83
00:34:33.640 a hospital called Loretta Hospital,
00:34:35.100 a gentleman walked away with $800 million
00:34:37.280 of taxpayers' money.
00:34:39.140 We need to control spending.
00:34:41.280 And I want to hear more conversation on how we do that.
00:34:44.960 I want to just, you might still need the microphone because I worked for a, I worked in the non-profit sector, I'll keep it a little bit vague, dealing with homelessness.
00:34:52.700 And in my experience, and also other issues, they weren't spending the money on what they were supposed to be spending the money on.
00:34:59.100 And I'm not, like, what I found is that smaller non-profits did great jobs.
00:35:03.980 Bigger non-profits that were getting government grants and big donors were not spending the money on what they were supposed to be spending the money on.
00:35:09.500 or at least they would spend very little of it
00:35:13.440 in the direction they were supposed to.
00:35:20.540 USAID, I think that, of course, any program will have waste,
00:35:24.360 and we should try to get rid of it.
00:35:26.720 Just in the matter of weeks, completely dismantling,
00:35:30.300 in a very wasteful way, USAID, like food that was supposed to go to people,
00:35:34.060 went to waste, and medicine.
00:35:35.160 And and also it's funny because that was supposed to be like an efficiency organization that failed. Trump has been horrible on the debt and deficit. It didn't even make a dent. And that's another misnomer. I always laugh when people try to make the argument that Republicans are better for the economy because a century of data doesn't demonstrate that.
00:35:53.740 And the second one is fiscal responsibility. Neither party is as fiscally responsible as they could be, but we always think of it through just the lens of spending and never the lens of revenue.
00:36:03.560 And a big part of our debt problem is, and I'm not trying to spark a whole thing, but is one Republican administration coming in after another and doing these huge tax cuts that every time disproportionately go to the richest.
00:36:17.420 So I think it's a two-pronged approach.
00:36:19.540 I wish we'd focus a little bit more on the revenue prong to enable fiscal responsibility.
00:36:24.780 And it does just so happen while both parties are really flawed on this.
00:36:28.580 Republicans have the worst record.
00:36:29.920 Are you against quantitative easing?
00:36:31.940 Yeah, whenever it's necessary.
00:36:35.020 You're against it when it's necessary?
00:36:36.440 Oh, you said four.
00:36:37.140 Oh, I thought you said four.
00:36:38.100 Yeah, when it's necessary.
00:36:39.160 Are you against quantitative easing?
00:36:41.140 No, not in every case.
00:36:44.100 Okay, so you don't think quantitative easing drives inflation?
00:36:47.420 There are situations where you have to, to get out of an economic crisis, make economic decisions that will increase inflation.
00:36:54.540 Because we have massive quantitative easing under both parties as well.
00:36:56.940 Right.
00:36:57.440 So that's money printing for everybody else.
00:37:00.440 That's massive amounts of which.
00:37:02.640 So, I mean, it's like, oh, it's going to get bad.
00:37:05.120 It's like, oh, it's just taxes.
00:37:06.680 Oh, it's just revenue.
00:37:07.440 And it's like you're missing this massive, massive point.
00:37:09.880 Tim mentioned Federal Reserve, but it's money printing.
00:37:12.600 These are just fancy ways of talking about money printing that you just totally aren't addressing at all.
00:37:16.440 well because i'm saying it's a very it's a very like partisan argument you're making about like
00:37:21.160 democrats good republicans no i said multiple times that democrats are very flawless too i'm
00:37:25.340 just saying that no in terms of the economics in terms of the economics oh oh yeah that they're
00:37:29.180 better in terms of the economics and it's it's kind of tired like it's honestly just like with
00:37:32.940 kim was saying like i've heard it a million times i have a question i have a flat question
00:37:36.920 just like a little do you do you guys know how much money the average american makes in their
00:37:40.360 lifetime? It's an honest question. I'm just curious.
00:37:43.880 Ooh.
00:37:44.900 Can we look it up?
00:37:46.480 Ooh.
00:37:48.400 800.
00:37:50.340 In their lifetime.
00:37:51.340 How much money does the average American make in their lifetime?
00:37:55.640 $800,000.
00:37:57.480 I was going to say about a million.
00:38:00.240 My guess is a million.
00:38:01.020 I'm going to say a million. Lifetime, right?
00:38:02.680 Like average lifetime.
00:38:04.500 You know, like politically, if you put me on the political compass,
00:38:06.800 I'm going to be like left lib, left libertarian.
00:38:08.820 uh 1.7 million i thought that i thought it was around that much that's a million okay okay here's
00:38:13.300 the point i want to make we we i don't think we live in a democratic uh republic or a constitutional
00:38:18.800 republic whatever anyone wants to call it i think we live in a plutonomy or or um oligopoly or whatever
00:38:24.820 you want to call it and the reason why i say that is the average american this is almost all americans
00:38:29.260 will never do what i describe as breaking the barrier attaining a higher class we are a class 0.99
00:38:35.260 country, if you have $2 million in cash, and don't get me wrong, what I'm about to say is very stupid 0.96
00:38:39.720 financial advice, but it is true. If you put $2 million into, like right now, X is offering 6%
00:38:46.620 APY, you're going to be making hundreds of thousands of dollars a year, and you don't work
00:38:50.580 just because you are rich. If you attain that level of cash, now in reality, you can put into
00:38:56.300 high-yield ETFs, and there's better ways to manage it financially, but there's 23 million millionaires
00:39:02.600 in this country. Most of them on average make about $160,000 a year, and they have this net
00:39:08.820 worth due to buying property and accruing in value. So they aren't really this class of people.
00:39:15.400 When I hear all of this stuff, and the reason why I bring this up is that whether it be Trump,
00:39:20.000 be Democrats or whatever, none of anything that we discuss or bicker about fundamentally alters
00:39:25.520 that there are people who don't work and get money for free off of the backs of people who do work.
00:39:30.720 Quantitative easing, you mentioned inflation, all of these things.
00:39:32.900 Very, very bad news.
00:39:33.780 But guess what?
00:39:34.280 Inflation is fantastic for the wealthy.
00:39:36.360 It's fantastic.
00:39:37.440 They can take on debt, buy property, and then the inflation devalues their debt.
00:39:42.340 So it is what it is.
00:39:44.540 The people who have this system are never going to give it up.
00:39:47.660 Voting doesn't change this system because our members of Congress and the Senate, all
00:39:51.040 of them, of all parties, are wealthy and like the system too.
00:39:54.040 That's why they won't ban insider trading in Congress.
00:39:56.940 So maybe this is a little over the top for what the point of the question was,
00:40:00.660 but I'm thinking about how we're chickens in a chicken coop is how I describe it,
00:40:05.700 and they're sitting there enemies in politics but laughing and sipping tea
00:40:10.180 because they get money for nothing while we work for it.
00:40:12.180 Hello, gentlemen. My name is Robert. Thanks for coming to speak with us today.
00:40:16.320 There was some discussion around morals.
00:40:18.000 So my question for the panel is, is it moral for the government, Democrats, Republicans alike,
00:40:26.460 to continue the deficit spending,
00:40:29.720 to run deficits to pay for their programs?
00:40:32.460 Yes.
00:40:33.660 Yeah, if you do it wisely, which we're not.
00:40:37.680 Do you think yes or no?
00:40:39.620 I mean, I think under the current circumstances,
00:40:42.500 you would have to.
00:40:44.240 The question of morality is an interesting one.
00:40:47.700 And the reason I give a flat yes
00:40:49.120 is because as long as the system is churning
00:40:54.500 and you can band-aid the problems later on, you know?
00:40:59.120 I guess the issue would be,
00:41:01.620 would it be moral to cut spending
00:41:03.900 to deal with the crisis that we're facing with the deficit?
00:41:07.920 And honestly, I think we need to stop.
00:41:11.300 We need to get deficit under control.
00:41:12.720 We need to pay down the debt.
00:41:13.980 I think the interest on the debt
00:41:15.560 is now the third highest line item for government spending,
00:41:17.700 which is insane.
00:41:18.260 We are facing a credit cardiac arrest, as it were.
00:41:21.840 I didn't make that up.
00:41:22.560 And the issue is, if you go to everybody and point this out, they're all going to say it's a problem.
00:41:27.760 And then when you say, which programs should we cut, everybody starts screaming and saying no.
00:41:32.840 So there's no way to ever stop government spending without riots and anger and rage.
00:41:40.480 So the simple answer is, we've got disparate moral frameworks in this country.
00:41:47.060 If the question is, should we do what we must to maintain stability because we're rich and comfortable?
00:41:52.560 not everybody but the country largely is then yes people would say it was immoral if we cut
00:41:58.720 spending for any group people would lose their minds all right well thank you everyone for
00:42:04.820 coming this has been a fantastic debate and we really appreciate all the questions from the
00:42:08.160 audience all right folks well that was the great debate at the university of chicago and of course
00:42:13.640 us getting to talk with the students at the university of chicago hope you enjoyed it as much
00:42:17.780 as we enjoyed being able to do it.
00:42:21.340 And again, we're going to keep doing more of these.
00:42:23.840 We've got some turning point, pick up the mic events
00:42:25.820 that I'm going to be participating in upcoming, a lot planned.
00:42:29.860 So go out and enjoy, by the way, Halloween tomorrow
00:42:32.900 for all the Christians out there enjoying this incredible Christian holiday
00:42:36.360 of All Hallows Eve.
00:42:38.800 And if you're someone who's participating and joining the Christians, 0.91
00:42:41.600 you are more than welcome to join us and participate in All Hallows' Eve,
00:42:48.380 which, of course, was, is, and always has been a Christian holiday.
00:42:53.340 Ladies and gentlemen, as always, you have my permission to lay ashore.