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00:00:30.000 This is what happens when the fourth turning meets fifth generation warfare.

00:00:39.200 A commentator, international social media sensation, and former Navy intelligence veteran.

00:00:46.020 This is Human Events with your host, Jack Posobiec.

00:00:49.000 Christ is king.

00:00:52.760 All right, folks, Jack Posobiec, we're live here.

00:00:56.300 Human Events daily, Phoenix, Arizona.

00:01:00.000 Charlie Kirk Studio.

00:01:01.920 Joining me, first time, first time in person, Mike Cernovich.

00:01:06.980 Yeah, we took the trip out.

00:01:08.860 Wouldn't miss Charlie's memorial for the world.

00:01:11.560 Appreciate you being here, man.

00:01:12.540 Yeah, yeah.

00:01:13.260 And I think everybody has to come together.

00:01:16.920 And that was what Charlie was good at.

00:01:19.200 People, they find him in 2024.

00:01:21.540 And they're like, okay, this is the iteration of Charlie that always existed.

00:01:25.200 Right.

00:01:25.900 Whereas with you or me, like, no, or, you know, Tucker here earlier, no, this was a young man in a hurry.

00:01:31.740 This was a young man of ambition.

00:01:33.480 And in addition to the Christianity and moral grounding of it, I just wish more people, especially younger men, would take away that message.

00:01:42.240 Where this was a young man in a hurry.

00:01:44.460 He was starting wherever he could.

00:01:48.040 He wasn't thinking, give me all of this free stuff.

00:01:50.940 Because you see this online a lot of times.

00:01:52.420 This guy's like, why don't I have the six-figure job?

00:01:54.340 I don't have this.

00:01:55.440 Dude, Charlie didn't have this.

00:01:57.120 And Charlie was a uniquely talented person.

00:01:59.180 Charlie was hitting up Foster Freeze.

00:02:00.960 Wasn't it on an elevator for $15,000 or $17,000, I think the story goes, where Charlie did an elevator pitch.

00:02:08.000 Gets his first few checks.

00:02:09.480 And then Charlie...

00:02:10.360 I think he told him it was a stairwell.

00:02:11.980 Like, he, like, blocked him on the stairs.

00:02:14.600 Yeah.

00:02:14.840 And it was $17,000 or $14,000.

00:02:16.840 But it was somewhere in that range.

00:02:18.960 And Charlie was a tall guy.

00:02:19.880 Yeah, exactly.

00:02:21.400 Foster Freeze was like, oh, yeah.

00:02:22.420 He was like, who's this guy?

00:02:23.800 Yeah.

00:02:24.200 He was like, security.

00:02:25.180 But no, he was like, all right.

00:02:26.380 And then Charlie was flying people out.

00:02:27.660 But Foster listened to him.

00:02:28.620 Yeah.

00:02:29.280 And that's the thing, too, is that...

00:02:30.740 Because people miss this, too, that Charlie would be generous with his platform.

00:02:33.820 Yep.

00:02:34.420 And that's something that you don't see a lot.

00:02:37.060 Yeah.

00:02:37.220 Where someone gets a platform, and then it's like, boom, this is me.

00:02:40.380 This is all about me.

00:02:42.420 And I'm going to...

00:02:42.840 But Charlie was never about that.

00:02:43.960 And plus, because Charlie...

00:02:45.140 This is something I was having a conversation with when I started CNN last week, first time, first time.

00:02:51.540 And she was nice.

00:02:52.780 She was nice off camera.

00:02:53.820 I thought she was fine on camera.

00:02:55.580 And people thought she was doing a gotcha.

00:02:57.080 I don't think she was doing a gotcha.

00:02:59.060 But I said something.

00:03:00.000 I said, you know, with scissoring with Charlie, just generationally speaking, he wasn't Gen Z.

00:03:04.880 He was close, but he wasn't Gen Z.

00:03:06.760 He still believed in the real world.

00:03:08.740 Right.

00:03:08.900 And so that was chapters, that was grounded, that was setting up tables, that was being on campus, as he was.

00:03:15.520 He believed in the real world, but you do see that so much more with the generation that's coming up.

00:03:21.800 It's the online world is the real world, and the real world is like de minimis compared to that.

00:03:26.140 Yeah, the technognosis, the spiritual affliction...

00:03:29.420 Precisely.

00:03:29.920 ...taking over the entire country, even Gen X or tech road people, where they see a beautiful landscape, and they go, we need to put solar panels over here.

00:03:37.420 Yep.

00:03:37.820 And take away nature, and we all need to live stacked up like bugs.

00:03:40.340 But now I was thinking about, so Charlie, you know, he does RNC, he raises money, he was always flying people to things.

00:03:46.580 People don't, people, that's the thing, that's what frustrates me about all of this, is that they see Charlie at a given point in time, and they don't realize, no, he was flying commercial, and he flew all those kids out for the Black Leadership Summit and the White House.

00:04:00.800 Yep.

00:04:00.880 That was all Charlie doing it.

00:04:02.960 A Blexit, that was Charlie doing it.

00:04:05.540 You talk about how many...

00:04:06.680 Well, when he did the events, when he did the events, if you were a student,

00:04:09.800 especially if you were a chapter student, your ticket was subsidized, your ticket and your hotel, and even your airfare could be subsidized through a turning point.

00:04:17.580 So he would take donor money, and it wasn't like he would put it in his pocket.

00:04:21.160 Yep.

00:04:21.340 He would say, how do I use this to grow the organization and do something for the people, the kids who are trying to come up?

00:04:28.200 So when I was coming up in college, we had nothing like that.

00:04:30.500 I was in the college Republicans, right?

00:04:33.460 And we got like a box.

00:04:34.840 Yeah.

00:04:35.000 We got like a box from the big party.

00:04:38.100 He'd say, here's your box, and there's like a banner in it and like a clipboard.

00:04:42.100 Oh, thanks so much.

00:04:43.300 I really appreciate that.

00:04:44.300 And then figure it out.

00:04:45.620 So we had no turning point.

00:04:47.700 And you just, you didn't have that.

00:04:50.000 Whereas Charlie, so it's like, where's all the money going?

00:04:52.200 Yeah.

00:04:52.300 Right?

00:04:52.440 Where's all the money going, Karl Rove?

00:04:54.280 And, oh, Karl Rove, by the way, I love his op-ed, right?

00:04:56.420 It wasn't them.

00:04:57.360 It wasn't them.

00:04:58.260 Talk about taking Charlie's name in vain.

00:04:59.940 Yeah, seriously.

00:05:00.940 Let's call that the first commandment of this.

00:05:03.560 Thou shalt not take Charlie Kirk's name in vain.

00:05:05.620 And that was, again, the big threat that Charlie poses.

00:05:10.380 People think that they can be isolated in an island, and they're logged online, and that

00:05:14.660 a brain becomes reprogrammed.

00:05:16.840 It becomes a worship of gnosis.

00:05:18.860 This is a spiritual component that I think the greatest spiritual affliction people have

00:05:22.820 is not being embodied anymore.

00:05:24.680 And they're connecting to the internet, and then they get a little bit of fame, and that's

00:05:29.420 what you see Charlie never fell into, was when Charlie built things out, all he could

00:05:34.040 think about was how he could build out everybody else, from if you're a college kid, a high

00:05:38.560 school kid, to even if you're a big name.

00:05:41.080 Hold that thought.

00:05:41.900 Right back.

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00:05:44.580 Mike Cernovich, for the Marcos Blues.

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00:05:56.340 This is Human Events with Jack Posobiec.

00:05:58.100 Now it's time for everyone to understand what America First truly means.

00:06:02.760 Welcome to the second American Revolution. 0.56

00:06:09.740 Jack Posobiec, back live, Charlie Kirk's studio, Turning Point USA.

00:06:14.700 You're looking at the vigil right now out front.

00:06:18.340 I'm here in studio, in my seat, of course not in Charlie's seat, that's empty me, but next

00:06:23.880 to Charlie's empty seat, we got Mike Cernovich joining us now in the studio for the very first

00:06:29.400 time.

00:06:29.980 Mike, we've been going through all this, and one of my favorite things about you is that

00:06:35.880 you can go small, and you can go deep, but you can also go wide.

00:06:41.680 And your big picture view is always so interesting to listen to.

00:06:48.480 Where are we at right now?

00:06:50.800 Yeah, a lot of it is energy and vibe and feeling it.

00:06:57.460 And the cosmic shift that happened when that was already forming, of course, when Charlie

00:07:05.000 died, it crystallized a moment for everybody that it seems trite, right?

00:07:08.780 Like, you know, I'm getting up there in years now, when you're younger, the people will

00:07:13.060 be like, oh, you know, tomorrow's not promised, you could die any day.

00:07:16.960 And you're just like, shut up, old man, you know, get out, what are you talking about?

00:07:20.680 And then a lot of people, especially young people, realize like, oh, wow, this is true.

00:07:26.760 This is a guy that I was just watching, and he's gone.

00:07:30.480 And he had everything going for him.

00:07:33.000 The next moment isn't promised for me at all.

00:07:36.080 So we have all this debate about, is AI going to take the jobs, and is this, and the techno

00:07:40.820 gnosis forming, and everything else.

00:07:43.740 But you're like, you're going to die.

00:07:45.380 You're going to die, one.

00:07:46.380 Are you prepared to meet Christ?

00:07:47.760 Are you prepared for the judgment day?

00:07:49.420 I think is a question that a lot of people were having.

00:07:53.040 But it's easy, the devil, the way the devil tricks us, I read this great little orthodox 1.00

00:07:56.520 fable where they, I'm not going to repeat the whole story, but it's like the Aesop

00:08:01.800 packaging wrap-up, and the devil gets us with our curiosity.

00:08:06.480 Oh, yeah, go read that book on Buddhism, and go read that book on Christianity, and try

00:08:11.560 that out.

00:08:11.980 What flavor of Protestantism do you want?

00:08:14.280 And well, maybe that's flawed.

00:08:15.780 What about Catholicism?

00:08:17.200 What about orthodoxy?

00:08:18.280 I mean, you're endlessly lost in curiosity, and that's where the devil keeps you.

00:08:23.740 Through the tree of knowledge.

00:08:24.700 Yeah, because you're there, and you feel like you're making traction, but you're actually

00:08:27.720 not.

00:08:28.020 You're spinning your wheels, and then boom, you're dead.

00:08:30.700 And now it's judgment, right?

00:08:33.400 And I think a lot of us, myself included, are reminded that judgment day is coming for

00:08:38.420 all of us.

00:08:38.900 It came for Charlie Kirk, who's a better person than I was.

00:08:40.760 I'm not going to even pretend that that isn't true.

00:08:43.220 Best of all of us.

00:08:43.960 So getting your soul right, one, I think, is the big picture.

00:08:47.200 A lot of people realize that's why churches were full.

00:08:49.840 Our friends volunteered at a church, and they said, you better get here early.

00:08:53.100 It's been like...

00:08:53.620 It was like Easter Sunday.

00:08:54.580 Yeah.

00:08:54.960 So the religious thing, get your soul right.

00:08:58.100 And I don't get into this.

00:08:59.540 I don't get into ecumenicalism.

00:09:01.540 I'm not going to say everything's right.

00:09:02.940 I don't get into what is right.

00:09:04.360 I always say, you go to church and figure it out for yourself.

00:09:06.540 I'm not here to do Christian apologetics, but judgment day is coming.

00:09:10.460 Quicker than you know.

00:09:11.920 Antichrist is already here, right?

00:09:13.280 Everybody's obsessed with prophecies and all these...

00:09:15.480 It's here.

00:09:16.400 Antichrist is here.

00:09:17.700 Judgment day is coming.

00:09:18.840 When?

00:09:19.260 You don't know.

00:09:20.560 The second thing that I think a lot of people realized was that you need to have ambition in life.

00:09:27.120 You need to do things in life.

00:09:28.780 Also because of the death.

00:09:30.520 Josiah Trinham had a great homily on death with Tucker that I think the Orthodox Christians and Catholics do well,

00:09:37.480 even though it's called like idolatry because it's not, because they're like,

00:09:39.940 why do they have these pictures of the dead?

00:09:41.120 That we, as a culture, have become two, we become in denial of our physical death of our physical bodies and a denial of our soul.

00:09:48.880 So we just live, especially if you live in suburbia, oh, I got a cool life.

00:09:53.100 I walk into an air-conditioned studio from an air-conditioned car.

00:09:56.280 I barely even break a sweat in the day.

00:09:57.980 I don't even go to the gym.

00:09:59.380 I'm hungry.

00:10:00.020 I eat what I want, and we're living in denial of deprivation.

00:10:04.240 We're not fasting.

00:10:05.000 We're living in denial of death.

00:10:06.800 And the Charlie Kirk thing shook everybody.

00:10:10.520 You're going to die.

00:10:12.300 And that's something that, again, it could sound trite if you're younger.

00:10:15.420 Oh, shut up. 0.99

00:10:16.140 You know, shut up, old man, or whatever.

00:10:18.380 But you are going to die.

00:10:19.800 So you are, and you do need to face the judgment of God.

00:10:22.660 And then secondly, as your soul is departing the body, as you're floating away, what's that moment going to be like for you?

00:10:31.060 Are you going to think, you know what?

00:10:32.380 I left an impact on this world.

00:10:34.180 I did things.

00:10:35.240 Like, I was here on a spiritual journey from God.

00:10:38.820 My soul was embodied.

00:10:40.340 A spiritual test.

00:10:40.920 A test.

00:10:41.880 And I worked to sanctify my soul, which people can read my Twitter and think, oh, what do you do?

00:10:47.100 Hey, man, I'm not trying to, like, I'm not trying to claim.

00:10:49.440 I'm saying go to the priest.

00:10:50.780 I'm not the priest.

00:10:51.680 I don't want anybody to be like, oh, I read you, and I know, and I completely understand.

00:10:56.400 That's my own struggle, too.

00:10:58.140 That's my own struggle against my own sins and vices and everything else.

00:11:02.000 But it is a good reminder, like, oh, am I leaning into pride too much?

00:11:05.240 Am I leaning into ego too much?

00:11:06.680 Am I, because you can have a militancy about you and a warrior aspect about you, but it has to be for a higher cause, and that's the sublimation of ego.

00:11:15.100 So that's what Charlie did.

00:11:16.720 Charlie built up all these big things, not to glorify himself or to create an idol of himself.

00:11:22.400 But to glorify God.

00:11:23.240 No, it wasn't Charlie Kirk, USA.

00:11:23.960 It was to glorify God, though, even more deeper than turning porn or even more deeper than the country.

00:11:28.560 Well, when you go back, and Andrew Colvett's been talking about this, too, when you go back and watch these, you know, it was billed as like a political debate.

00:11:36.420 But then when you're going to watch it, you say, wait a minute, he's slipping Christ in there as much as possible.

00:11:42.120 And every question, he turns it back to that.

00:11:44.700 So it was like a black op, right? 0.81

00:11:48.260 It was like special operations, get everyone together, and that's the boom, hit him with the gospel, boom, hit him with the word, boom, hit him with this.

00:11:55.600 This was like a secret revival happening right in front of our eyes.

00:12:00.000 Revival is great.

00:12:00.780 And I think the other bigger, the bigger macro trend, I think on the micro, everybody has realized memento mori.

00:12:07.100 You need to meditate on your death the way the samurai did, not as in a negative thing to feel.

00:12:12.920 Or the way of the bushido.

00:12:13.980 Yes.

00:12:14.100 The first step is the first step towards death.

00:12:15.580 Every day I meditate on death.

00:12:16.900 Every day I imagine a thousand arrows be thrust into me, right?

00:12:19.560 Every day you meditate on death, and if you're not of a spiritual mind, you think, well, that sounds morbid, but I think it's the option.

00:12:26.060 Charlie meditated on death often.

00:12:27.860 Yes.

00:12:28.320 People think, oh, no, no, meditation on death does not mean you're dreading death.

00:12:32.460 You're just waking up every day that I could be struck down today.

00:12:36.560 And I think the geopolitical trend, at least within America and American Christians, is recognizing that there was an inversion of morality to where somehow we had given the left moral authority. 0.93

00:12:51.140 We'd allowed them to scold us.

00:12:52.860 Oh, don't fire Jimmy Kimmel.

00:12:54.880 What about print?

00:12:56.400 They weaponized little slivers of Christianity, but they're going to kill you, dude. 0.99

00:13:00.520 The people telling you how to express your Christianity and how to live your values and how to create it, they're going to kill you. 0.98

00:13:08.280 They're going to kill you, and then they're going to piss on your grave. 0.64

00:13:11.400 They're going to mock your children.

00:13:13.000 They're going to wish that terrible things happened to them.

00:13:15.300 This is the evil that you're up against.

00:13:18.160 So in what world do you let these Decepticons, these subversives, these people who are clearly tools of the demon, make you feel insecure about how you express your Christianity when that's what they want for you?

00:13:30.320 So you see this now happening, especially in the conservative Christian right, where they go, dude, they killed Charlie.

00:13:37.040 I don't want to hear you meddlers.

00:13:38.660 I don't want to hear you scallywags. 1.00

00:13:41.160 I don't want you common scolds telling us how we need to live and how we need to express our Christianity and how we need to build America.

00:13:48.440 Unity.

00:13:49.240 Unity.

00:13:50.120 Yeah.

00:13:50.540 You need unity.

00:13:51.840 You know who brings unity?

00:13:53.000 The father.

00:13:53.980 Dad says, I'm in charge.

00:13:55.700 Yes.

00:13:56.260 I love you, and I'm going to raise you and look out for you, but I'm the dad.

00:13:59.520 And that's a father's love is correction of error.

00:14:03.620 So in my faith, in Catholicism, we actually refer to a spiritual work of mercy is admonishing the sinner.

00:14:13.340 Yes.

00:14:13.960 That is a work of mercy to admonish the sinner. 1.00

00:14:17.660 So it's not this whole like, oh, I'm better than you kind of thing.

00:14:21.860 It's, whoa, whoa, something is off here.

00:14:24.820 You better get right because daddy's coming.

00:14:26.300 No, it's the opposite.

00:14:27.340 Like, I watch Josiah Trenum videos, and there's another YouTube Orthodox monk, Spiritum Bailey, I think his name is.

00:14:33.880 And just by watching them, I feel rebuked.

00:14:36.760 Just without them even saying, I'm like, man, you know, because I was watching Josiah, and I go, dude, I was, what am I doing arguing with people about subplots of Charlie's thing?

00:14:48.220 What in the world is wrong with me?

00:14:50.120 Like, Charlie died.

00:14:51.120 His family's grieving.

00:14:52.360 What am I doing?

00:14:53.840 You know, how, what, because that's ego, and you get, you know, drawn into it.

00:14:58.480 I almost did it yesterday.

00:15:00.240 There was one piece of it where I was like, yeah, I could feel it.

00:15:03.800 And I was like, oh, and then the Twitter fingers get going, and you're like, oh, I can debunk this, and I can jump in here.

00:15:10.060 And then it's like, number one, that's not what I shouldn't be doing.

00:15:13.580 But number two, that's not what Charlie would do.

00:15:15.540 Right.

00:15:15.720 That's not what Charlie would do.

00:15:16.960 Charlie would say, have it out.

00:15:19.520 Do your little, do your little, do your little bickering, your bantering.

00:15:23.020 But at the end of the day, we got a mission.

00:15:24.860 Yeah.

00:15:25.520 And that's what Charlie was all about.

00:15:27.280 And it's like the kaleidoscope, like you said, it's that Charlie's dealing with a kaleidoscope world of a coalition, of a right, of a people.

00:15:35.420 That's going up against evil, that Charlie walked in the face of evil.

00:15:40.980 And he knew, he obviously knew the threats, he knew everything, he did it anyway.

00:15:45.060 Right.

00:15:45.540 And that's why the Charlie legacy is, when you're diplomatic like Charlie, anybody can sort of read into things a certain way.

00:15:54.880 So then what I was doing was I was having my own interpretation.

00:15:58.160 And then I thought, you know, I watched that Josiah thing.

00:16:00.700 I was actually at the park with my kids, so I was listening to it.

00:16:03.100 And I thought, you're right.

00:16:05.140 We as Christians, we are just not comfortable enough with death.

00:16:08.600 His soul hasn't been reposed.

00:16:10.600 It's a 40-day mourning thing.

00:16:12.240 And I'm here on Twitter debating the trajectory of a bullet.

00:16:16.180 So, you know, it's funny you mention that because my Orthodox wife, she's only worn black since the day. 0.68

00:16:25.360 And then someone said, oh, you know, why are you just, you know, 40 days.

00:16:29.860 And that's it.

00:16:30.880 That's just 40 days.

00:16:33.060 Yeah.

00:16:33.280 So there really is a sense of like, just God have mercy.

00:16:36.440 You know, you know, what am I doing?

00:16:38.220 And I think that a strong, like, like a, because the spiritual is like, guys, we left the toxic feminine, which feminine isn't toxic. 0.92

00:16:46.480 But we could talk about Mary and all this.

00:16:49.440 I don't know, maybe later.

00:16:50.360 But the chaos.

00:16:51.020 The, the, the, yeah, the, the integrated feminine or the divine feminine is the we'll call is Mary, mother of God, the mother of humanity.

00:16:59.440 And what we weren't in, we weren't in the divine feminine.

00:17:02.540 You know, again, that's a little sacrilegious.

00:17:04.240 But the idea is that we were in the toxic feminine era of abortions, get drunk, party, do, you know, do ratchet things.

00:17:12.940 And now we're in the era now where we're like, that doesn't work.

00:17:16.120 That's open borders and murder. 0.91

00:17:18.220 Amen.

00:17:18.880 Mike Cernovich.

00:17:19.560 Thanks for being here, man.

00:17:21.360 A pleasure.

00:17:21.840 I really appreciate it.

00:17:22.860 And see you this weekend.

00:17:24.020 Yep.

00:17:24.720 Thank you.

00:17:25.980 Ladies and gentlemen, please go follow Mike.

00:17:27.960 Make sure you're following and getting all of his, got some videos coming out that I think you're going to really like to talk about this and so much more.

00:17:35.300 Memento Mori, Tempest, Fugit.

00:17:37.380 Time flies.

00:17:38.300 Remember, you are more.

00:17:40.560 You're right back.

00:17:40.960 Talk about influences.

00:17:50.020 These are influences and they're friends of mine.

00:17:54.280 Jack Posobiec.

00:17:55.780 Where's Jack?

00:17:56.720 Jack.

00:17:57.660 He's done a great job.

00:18:02.400 All right, Jack Posobiec, we are back live here.

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00:18:06.520 We're in Phoenix, Arizona, the Charlie Kirk Studio.

00:18:09.260 Very honored on to have the, not only the author of a new book, but someone who needs no introduction.

00:18:16.380 Eric Trump joins us now on Human Events Daily.

00:18:18.780 Eric.

00:18:20.260 Jack, thanks.

00:18:21.180 Thanks, buddy.

00:18:21.840 It's great to be on.

00:18:23.560 Well, I appreciate you coming on.

00:18:25.380 And this book you put out, it's, I mean, the timing is unbelievable because we had been, of course, in discussions.

00:18:32.820 We'd actually already booked you for the show.

00:18:34.760 You wrote this book about the siege that your family has been under and all of MAGA has been under and everything they've done to anyone with the name Trump or associated.

00:18:49.760 And then two days later, they kill Charlie Kirk.

00:18:56.140 I mean, I've got to, you know, I'll ask you as awful as it is.

00:19:01.440 I think people are missing, or I suppose the wider narrative, what's missing is that this isn't the first time violence has been used.

00:19:09.320 This isn't the first time tactics has been used to silence the Trump right, the Trump movement.

00:19:16.000 This has been going on all along.

00:19:17.960 And what's only different now is that it's ratcheted up.

00:19:21.420 Yeah.

00:19:21.940 Jack, it's the entire premise of the book, right?

00:19:23.920 I mean, they tried to silence us for the last 10 years.

00:19:26.940 They put gag orders on my father.

00:19:28.720 You know, he couldn't talk.

00:19:29.700 He couldn't defend himself.

00:19:30.580 He couldn't run a campaign as they threw these nonsense sham trials at him.

00:19:35.540 They ripped him off of Facebook and Instagram and Twitter.

00:19:39.040 They turned down all of our dials.

00:19:40.520 They turned down your dials.

00:19:41.480 They turned down all of my dials.

00:19:42.820 I mean, for an eight-year period of time, I didn't gain one follower because you couldn't even search and find me on these platforms.

00:19:48.840 That's how crooked they were.

00:19:50.800 They wanted to take away our voice.

00:19:52.380 They wanted to make sure that, you know, our voice wasn't projected to the masses.

00:19:56.320 They didn't want Charlie standing on the very stage that he was on.

00:19:59.580 They didn't want me doing hundreds, if not thousands, of campaign rallies in all the swing states across the country.

00:20:05.960 You know, Jack, it's that voice that got us to win against Hillary Clinton, right?

00:20:09.500 I mean, we self-funded that campaign.

00:20:11.580 We were at a five-to-one fundraising gap against Hillary without knowing a damn thing about politics. 1.00

00:20:18.440 And we somehow knocked her off because we were willing to stand on that stage every day.

00:20:21.920 And we could be loud and we had a presence and we had backbone and people liked our message.

00:20:26.520 But they wanted to silence us.

00:20:28.360 They wanted to bankrupt us.

00:20:29.660 They raided our homes.

00:20:30.880 They weaponized the FBI, the DOJ.

00:20:33.620 They came after us every single day.

00:20:36.500 They tried to divide our family.

00:20:38.600 They made up the Russia hoax. 0.95

00:20:39.900 They impeached my father the first time.

00:20:42.040 They impeached him the second time.

00:20:43.240 They made up slanderous lies about, you know, his Supreme Court justices.

00:20:46.940 I got 112 subpoenas and I've never done a damn thing wrong.

00:20:50.940 They used every power of the federal government to come after me, after the company that I run because my father had constitutional protections.

00:20:58.520 They couldn't hit him in the Oval Office other than trying to impeach him.

00:21:01.900 So guess what they did?

00:21:02.640 They came after me every single day.

00:21:05.700 And then I got criticized because I was on Sean Hannity and I said, you know what, they've tried everything and they failed.

00:21:10.040 They failed to take him off the ballot in Colorado and they failed to take him off the ballot, you know, in Maine.

00:21:14.860 And they failed to silence him because when they did, he popped up truth social.

00:21:18.520 So he still had a voice.

00:21:20.500 And you know what, Sean, I wouldn't be surprised if they tried to kill him.

00:21:24.880 And Jack, I told him that everybody goes, oh, Eric's an alarmist.

00:21:27.620 Eric's a conspiracy theorist.

00:21:28.720 But you saw the writing on the wall.

00:21:30.940 And sure enough, six weeks later, guess what?

00:21:32.920 They tried to kill him in Butler.

00:21:33.900 Then they tried to kill him at the golf course.

00:21:35.500 And you saw what they did to Steve Scalise.

00:21:37.760 And, you know, you saw what they tried to do to Kavanaugh, you know.

00:21:41.160 And then you saw what they did to your good friend, my good friend, Don's great friend, our family's great friend.

00:21:47.000 They put a bullet because they wanted to silence the greatest movement and the tough voices of that movement.

00:21:53.040 And that's exactly, that's exactly what this book is about.

00:21:55.980 I started writing this three years, three years ago when it was just the legal lawfare.

00:22:00.860 And then it got into the violence.

00:22:03.460 And there's never been a book that's rang more true than right in this moment today after, you know, what we all went through last week.

00:22:12.420 No, and Charlie's assassination is just something that I really hope, and I'm just going to say,

00:22:18.100 I hope it's a cliche, but turning point for our nation where we refer to the, you know, the history of America as pre-Charlie Kirk assassination and after because we need a response.

00:22:35.000 And we can't do this anymore.

00:22:36.620 We can't play this.

00:22:37.440 Charlie, all he wanted to do was talk.

00:22:39.020 Oh, he was the one guy who said, I'm going to be here on campus at this time.

00:22:44.360 Come on down. 0.94

00:22:45.240 And if you don't agree with me, I'm going to put you in the very front of the line.

00:22:49.360 He didn't have to do that.

00:22:50.400 And we told him the threats.

00:22:51.560 He knew the threats.

00:22:52.380 He did it anyway.

00:22:54.200 And Eric, that's, that's what I think, you know, the same theme that you write about in the book.

00:22:58.780 They don't want to talk anymore, do they?

00:23:01.400 No, they don't want to talk.

00:23:02.260 Hey, the bullets are only going one way.

00:23:03.940 You know, it's really interesting.

00:23:04.980 I mean, you know, they would call Charlie a Nazi and they would call him a fascist and they'd call me a fascist and they'd call all of, you know, I mean, it was identity politics.

00:23:12.840 But yet, isn't it really interesting that they're the ones that are dressing up in black and sitting on top of rooftops with sniper rifles shooting over college kids that are celebrating free speech?

00:23:21.220 I mean, you know, it feels like it's a lot more like fascism than, you know, than healthy dialogue where you see these beautiful kids and they're celebrating the fact that they finally have a voice in college campuses because of a guy like Charlie Kirk.

00:23:33.320 But it is a turning point.

00:23:34.820 Here's the turning point.

00:23:35.600 Everybody talks about how Charlie only, you know, it was the youth movement.

00:23:39.500 That's clearly what he was focused on.

00:23:41.360 But I had a 75-year-old Jamaican guy come up to me the other day.

00:23:44.900 He pointed at his heart.

00:23:45.740 He goes, I am Charlie Kirk.

00:23:46.920 Eric, I'm sorry for your loss, but I am, I am Charlie Kirk.

00:23:49.120 And I'm sitting there saying a guy not born in this country, certainly not the age demographic, and he's literally aligning with Charlie Kirk.

00:23:55.440 And then you look at Pretoria in South Africa, and they've got a march in honor of Charlie Kirk, and you see millions of people marching in London, across the London Bridge, and in honor of Charlie Kirk.

00:24:05.200 And you see the masses in this country, right?

00:24:07.740 I mean, even kids, I have employees who have literally written me emails and text messages.

00:24:11.900 Hey, my daughter was literally crying. 0.92

00:24:14.040 She's 17 years old.

00:24:15.280 She idolized Charlie Kirk.

00:24:17.160 It was the youth vote.

00:24:18.400 It was the adult vote.

00:24:19.320 It was all the sane people, all the people that are sick and tired of the violence, right?

00:24:23.860 And it is migrating all those people over, and it's people all around the world. 0.58

00:24:27.280 And so, you know, I always talk about unintended consequences.

00:24:31.080 Doing what they did was the greatest unintended consequence.

00:24:34.080 They actually gave Charlie a bigger voice and a bigger platform, given what they did to him, than maybe he could have ever even had.

00:24:41.920 Because people realize how dirty, how nasty, how evil these people are.

00:24:46.920 And 99.9% of Americans are great people who don't want this nonsense.

00:24:52.800 And wow, did it backfire on them.

00:24:54.820 And so I really do believe, you know, Jack, that this is, I mean, this is a turning point.

00:24:58.620 There's just no question about it.

00:24:59.740 This is a turning point.

00:25:01.020 No, there is.

00:25:02.380 Eric, can we hold you over?

00:25:03.860 We've got a quick break, but I'd love to hold you over if you have a couple of minutes.

00:25:08.140 Great.

00:25:08.420 All right, we're holding on, folks.

00:25:11.340 Eric Trump is with us.

00:25:12.800 He's commenting the death of Charlie Kirk.

00:25:16.440 He's also, he's got his new book, Under Siege.

00:25:19.400 And that's exactly what's going on.

00:25:21.400 Our country is under siege.

00:25:23.500 His family has been under siege.

00:25:25.780 And Charlie Kirk, Charlie Kirk was killed, not in an accident, in an intentional act of unspeakable evil.

00:25:35.940 We'll be right back here at Human Events Daily with the Market Stories.

00:25:47.320 Where is Jack?

00:25:49.760 Where is Jack?

00:25:52.080 Where is he?

00:25:53.360 Jack, I want to see you.

00:25:57.000 Great job, Jack.

00:25:58.480 Thank you.

00:25:59.200 What a job you do.

00:26:00.660 You know, we have an incredible thing.

00:26:02.040 We're always talking about the fake news and the bad.

00:26:04.120 But we have guys, and these are the guys who should be getting Pulisic.

00:26:09.660 All right, Jack Posobiec, we're here.

00:26:11.720 Charlie Kirk, Studio Phoenix, Arizona.

00:26:13.980 We're on live with Eric Trump.

00:26:16.240 We're talking about, of course, the assassination of Charlie Kirk.

00:26:19.720 Also, Eric's book, which, you know, the timing is eerie.

00:26:25.720 Under Siege.

00:26:27.500 Eric, where do we go from here?

00:26:29.960 Where do we go next?

00:26:30.960 We never stop the fight.

00:26:34.620 We do it in honor of Charlie.

00:26:36.700 We do it because we have the greatest political movement in history, a movement that's saving this country.

00:26:42.920 When I saw Eric out there the other day, when she did that press conference right after the assassination, I have never seen somebody who was more direct, more powerful.

00:26:55.340 That was the epitome of strength.

00:26:56.920 And when I hear she was obviously unanimously voted in to continue to run Turning Point, like, it puts the greatest smile on my face.

00:27:03.460 And, you know, in an otherwise miserable week for so many people who obviously love Charlie and the movement that he created.

00:27:09.460 But, listen, they want us off that stage.

00:27:12.960 They don't want me on that stage.

00:27:14.860 They don't want me to do the thousands of rallies that I did.

00:27:17.560 They don't want Charlie—they didn't want Charlie to do the rallies that he did.

00:27:21.400 They don't want my father on that stage, which is why they took the shot at him.

00:27:24.740 They don't want Don on that stage.

00:27:25.980 They don't want you on that stage.

00:27:27.080 They don't want Benny Johnson on that stage.

00:27:28.640 I could keep going down the list of incredible people who have been warriors in this movement.

00:27:33.800 I mean, we were like the outcast crew, right?

00:27:37.320 I mean, we didn't have the platforms.

00:27:38.860 We didn't have anything.

00:27:39.720 We didn't have the CNNs.

00:27:40.860 We didn't have the ABCs.

00:27:42.020 We didn't have the CBSs.

00:27:43.160 We ended up being the loudest voice.

00:27:46.460 We ended up being the loudest voice.

00:27:47.680 Social media.

00:27:47.900 So they wanted to stop this movement, and we will never, ever allow them to stop us.

00:27:52.500 And we'll get on that stage, and we'll do so bravely.

00:27:55.500 We all know it's dangerous, and we'll honor Charlie, and we'll continue his legacy,

00:28:01.680 but we'll continue the greatest political movement that fights for God and country and

00:28:06.260 Constitution and everything that's great about red, white, and blue, and frankly, a country

00:28:11.480 that leads the world and leads peace and prosperity and saneness around the globe, and we will keep

00:28:18.920 the United States the number one superpower in the world.

00:28:22.620 That's right.

00:28:23.400 The book is Under Siege.

00:28:25.540 Eric Trubb, thank you so much for joining us today.

00:28:28.240 Thanks, Jack.

00:28:29.860 All right, folks.

00:28:31.160 Special honor here in studio, and oh, come around.

00:28:37.060 Come around.

00:28:37.600 Ladies and gentlemen, he's destroying the set now.

00:28:41.460 We have Tucker Carlson joining us in person.

00:28:46.460 Jack.

00:28:47.140 I left my glasses on the set, so I'm glad to be back.

00:28:49.560 Good to see you.

00:28:50.160 That's the only reason you came back, of course.

00:28:51.780 What do you think, man?

00:28:56.700 Oh, I have so many thoughts.

00:28:58.580 It's been one of those weeks where it's just like you're just right to the edge.

00:29:01.660 Here's what I think.

00:29:02.560 I think that I've spent like three or four days feeling rage and confusion, suspicion,

00:29:12.280 you know, anger at people I know.

00:29:16.460 It was basically division.

00:29:18.460 And here's where I've arrived as of last night.

00:29:21.100 I flew across the country here, so I had a lot of time to think.

00:29:24.060 Thank you for that.

00:29:25.020 Oh, my gosh.

00:29:25.940 I should have come earlier, but it was just I couldn't.

00:29:28.400 I don't know.

00:29:28.840 I didn't.

00:29:29.200 I should have.

00:29:29.560 But anyway, I think that this whatever this is, is the face of evil.

00:29:36.240 And that's kind of enough for me.

00:29:37.720 It doesn't mean the government doesn't have to get to the bottom of it.

00:29:40.740 Of course, they do.

00:29:41.760 And, you know, I wish I had more confidence that they will.

00:29:44.280 But I want to push that.

00:29:46.340 But on some level, the deepest level, I don't know how much that matters.

00:29:50.500 What matters is that I know that Charlie was murdered because he was proclaiming Jesus. 0.69

00:29:56.440 I believe that he was not a physical threat to anyone.

00:29:59.780 He was a completely nonviolent person and a truly decent person, as you know better than most.

00:30:04.400 And he was killed because of his message.

00:30:07.980 And I think we should all just internalize that.

00:30:11.040 And, of course, the answer is to proclaim the message louder and to live the message.

00:30:15.500 By loving other people.

00:30:16.840 And I'm not in any way saying that, you know, it doesn't matter.

00:30:19.280 You know, the details don't matter.

00:30:20.460 They very much do.

00:30:21.800 But the big picture matters most.

00:30:23.580 And I just want to keep that in mind.

00:30:25.040 You know, there's something about how it's like, you know, they tried to paint Charlie, you know, the media, whatever.

00:30:32.840 They try to paint him as this, like, hate monger, Nazi, misogynist, and all the rest.

00:30:38.660 And then you see him on campus and you see him with his family.

00:30:41.460 And it's like, this is the nicest guy.

00:30:43.940 He's the purest guy.

00:30:45.500 And I feel like, in a way, that's why he's the one they targeted.

00:30:49.600 Well, of course.

00:30:50.220 That's why.

00:30:50.740 And, by the way, you know, that's another thing that I've been thinking a lot about is that the nature of evil is slander, of course.

00:30:58.720 It's deception.

00:30:59.720 It's lying about other people to harm them.

00:31:03.020 And physical violence is the natural outgrowth of that, of course.

00:31:06.760 But fundamentally, evil is slanderous.

00:31:10.200 And I should probably stop being shocked by it every time I see slander, because I know a lot of the people involved, and I'm involved.

00:31:18.580 So I know what slander is because I can compare it to the truth, which I know.

00:31:22.800 And every single time I'm like, I can't believe they're saying that about, you know, somebody.

00:31:27.980 That's slander.

00:31:28.860 I'm so shocked and angry.

00:31:30.600 It's like, why am I shocked?

00:31:32.300 That's the nature of it.

00:31:34.420 And we have an obligation.

00:31:36.160 The devil is the father of lies.

00:31:37.680 Well, exactly.

00:31:39.020 Thank you.

00:31:39.800 That's exactly right.

00:31:40.960 Lucifer is the father of lies.

00:31:42.180 That's just true.

00:31:43.860 And so, and I'm not saying that everyone who's slandering somebody is Satan, but they are tools of evil for sure, as we all are from time to time, by the way.

00:31:53.620 But I shouldn't be shocked at all.

00:31:55.640 What did you think this was?

00:31:57.680 That's the nature of the world.

00:31:59.960 And our job is not to marinate in it or stare at it like a solar eclipse to the point where we go blind.

00:32:07.000 Our job is to fight it with the truth and with love and not abstract love, but actual love, the kind that helps other people, that elevates other people and the actual truth, the deepest truth.

00:32:21.600 You know, I got in the wake of the Minneapolis massacre, because, of course, this is not the first act of evil that we've seen so far this month.

00:32:33.680 And we saw this narrative coming out, and you had, like, very prominent people, including the governor of California, saying, don't pray, right?

00:32:46.400 You had this sort of don't pray message.

00:32:48.360 Of course.

00:32:49.080 And that is the message, right?

00:32:51.160 I don't know, really.

00:32:51.860 And I don't usually, like, go to this place publicly, but I just said, there's too much of this.

00:32:56.980 And I came out, I said, prayer causes pain to demons.

00:33:03.120 It causes pain.

00:33:04.160 Of course.

00:33:04.560 And when people gather, and when people hold church services, when they hold mass, when they conduct gatherings of prayer, this causes immense pain to evil.

00:33:18.080 And so who would want you to stop praying, right?

00:33:21.180 And then I said that, and that kind of went out, and media got mad at me.

00:33:25.920 I said, well, I don't care.

00:33:27.360 And then when this act of evil happened to Charlie, there was a spontaneous call to action.

00:33:37.980 And Charlie was, of course, known for his calls to action.

00:33:40.140 You know, we're doing this.

00:33:41.440 We're doing the ballots.

00:33:42.180 We're doing whatever we're doing.

00:33:42.860 But this was a spiritual call to action that everyone heard.

00:33:47.680 And what did people do?

00:33:48.700 They gathered and prayed completely spontaneously, completely independently, which Charlie would have been thrilled about, by the way.

00:33:56.980 But everyone knew on some deep, inherent level, we need to get together and pray right now.

00:34:04.600 Yeah, physically get together.

00:34:05.740 And I don't know how you can separate that from these ideas that we are in a literal spiritual war, and this is playing out.

00:34:17.920 It's spilling over into reality now, and it's just so obvious to me.

00:34:23.400 And we always have been.

00:34:24.260 And I don't know how you can deny it.

00:34:25.140 Well, it's just like, you know, I had a close friend who had an alcoholic spouse, and they got divorced, and everyone was like, you know, your wife was a really bad alcoholic.

00:34:31.940 And he's like, I honestly didn't know.

00:34:33.520 I was too close to it.

00:34:34.420 And that is a feature of human nature, that we don't see the biggest things that are the closest to us.

00:34:39.140 We just can't see their outlines because they are, again, too close.

00:34:42.320 And I think the nature of the eternal battle between good and evil is one of those things.

00:34:47.000 I mean, it's always been this way.

00:34:49.040 It's always been this way from the beginning of time, and we just haven't acknowledged it since 1945 because we imagined we were gods because we had atomic weapons.

00:34:57.060 But it doesn't make it any less real.

00:34:59.560 And so you sort of retroactively go through your life, and you're like, oh, that's what that was.

00:35:04.420 I didn't even know it at the time.

00:35:07.380 That was the serpent.

00:35:08.740 A hundred percent.

00:35:10.580 And there's not one of us who can't identify moments in our own lives where we've been tools of evil.

00:35:15.960 I just want to keep saying that.

00:35:17.080 The core Christian prayer, the Lord's Prayer, given to us by Jesus, at its essence, at its center, is forgive us our sins as we forgive those who sin against us.

00:35:25.080 Why is it in that order?

00:35:26.560 Because in order to forgive, it's very helpful to be mindful of our own shortcomings, our own sins.

00:35:32.260 We're not in a place to judge.

00:35:33.620 We are commanded to forgive as a condition of our own forgiveness.

00:35:36.280 So that is kind of the conclusion you reach if you're really honest about what's happening.

00:35:43.020 Like, yes, this has always been the actual battle.

00:35:46.860 All the nonsense that we are mad about is just a manifestation of that.

00:35:50.480 And we should see it in those terms because we should always be honest.

00:35:55.420 Always be honest.

00:35:56.740 And the more honest you are, the more courageous you become.

00:36:00.520 You are filled with holy power when you are honest, period.

00:36:02.880 The truth is, I'm resorting again to cliches and Bible verses, but it does set you free.

00:36:09.680 When you determine, when you make the decision internally, I'm not going to lie anymore, you become so much more powerful.

00:36:18.160 Like, you can feel it because it's God's power.

00:36:20.700 And one of the things we, the first thing we should be honest about always is ourselves.

00:36:25.000 And honesty is always a choice.

00:36:26.720 It's a choice.

00:36:27.600 It's a choice.

00:36:28.080 It's a decision.

00:36:28.500 Tucker, we've got a quick break.

00:36:29.700 Yep.

00:36:30.240 Hold that thought because that's perfect.

00:36:32.880 Be right back.

00:36:33.480 Jack Sovic, Tucker Carlson, Human Events Daily.

00:36:39.680 Jack is a great guy.

00:36:50.820 He's written a fantastic book.

00:36:52.460 Everybody's talking about it.

00:36:53.720 Go get it.

00:36:54.820 And he's been my friend right from the beginning of this whole beautiful event.

00:36:58.800 And we're going to turn it around and make our country great to get to you.

00:37:02.020 Amen.

00:37:02.340 Jack Sovic back live, Human Events Daily, Charlie Kirk Studio.

00:37:11.320 We're here with Tucker Carlson.

00:37:12.700 We have breaking news.

00:37:15.800 And this is, I believe, some kind of filing.

00:37:20.380 And so, Tucker, I'd love to get your first take on this because we're literally just talking about it.

00:37:25.300 And I think that the attempted assassin of Justice Brett Kavanaugh, which is one that nobody talks about anymore.

00:37:35.640 This is the, I believe this is the one he was, he was outside the house.

00:37:38.660 He had zip ties.

00:37:39.420 He had a firearm.

00:37:40.560 He was wanting to go in.

00:37:41.800 And by the way, multiple zip ties, because Brett Kavanaugh was there with his wife and children and standing outside his house.

00:37:47.760 Then something comes over him.

00:37:51.580 He called, if I remember correctly, he called 911 on himself and said, come pick me up before I do something that I shouldn't do.

00:37:59.700 Which is very tied into what we're talking about.

00:38:03.960 Of course.

00:38:04.780 People are captive, actually.

00:38:06.160 He has just, he has just come out as trans.

00:38:11.220 Yep.

00:38:11.760 And Nicholas Roski has filed a name change to Sophia Roski.

00:38:16.240 Yep, of course.

00:38:16.880 And I'm not sure, I believe, I believe it's Maryland.

00:38:20.100 So I'm not sure exactly what level of facility he is in.

00:38:26.120 He is being represented by a federal public defender for the district of Maryland and has petitioned not only for the name change, but I imagine we'll be petitioning for sex change.

00:38:37.120 Tucker, why does this keep happening?

00:38:39.520 Well, I mean, when I was a child growing up in Southern California in a totally secular world that worshiped Sigmund Freud and, you know, Jonas Salk.

00:38:49.340 And those guys never got anything wrong.

00:38:51.180 Yeah, the heroes of my youth.

00:38:52.880 Of course.

00:38:53.060 The idea was that every civilization in history has been super uptight about sex for irrational reasons, probably because they were badly toilet trained and, like, that's all insane and we need to, there's nothing bad about sex.

00:39:04.600 And there couldn't possibly be a vector for sin and, like, what?

00:39:08.580 And I completely believe that, actually, because that's the world I was raised in.

00:39:12.960 Like, I didn't know anyone who didn't think that.

00:39:14.520 And my life has been a process of realizing that that's totally wrong.

00:39:19.060 It's not just the trans stuff, by the way.

00:39:20.480 It's all sexual sin.

00:39:21.460 Sex is a direct express route to your soul.

00:39:29.720 I mean, that's the joy of sex is you expose your deepest parts to another person.

00:39:35.420 In fact, all the seven deadly sins are desires that we have that are directly tied to our soul.

00:39:42.600 Exactly.

00:39:43.040 And then when those desires are overindulged, I don't just mean gluttony, but all of them.

00:39:49.340 Or they go in the wrong direction.

00:39:50.360 So there's, like, there's love, agape, sexual love, within the bounds of marriage to create the family.

00:39:57.220 But if that gets overindulged, it becomes lust.

00:39:59.900 Well, yeah.

00:40:00.540 And there was a reason people were really afraid of sex.

00:40:05.100 Of course, everyone loves sex.

00:40:06.360 Who doesn't love sex?

00:40:07.760 But they understood that it was like nitroglycerin.

00:40:10.680 Like, it could cure heart patients, but it could also blow up the building. 0.69

00:40:13.840 You know, it's a volatile thing.

00:40:15.760 And you have to keep it within certain bounds.

00:40:18.720 Chemotherapy, right?

00:40:19.520 That's exactly right.

00:40:21.180 And, you know, the trans thing is obviously evil. 1.00

00:40:24.260 Of course, it destroys the people who engage in it.

00:40:26.820 By the way, it's not – we're not just the victims.

00:40:28.380 The real victims are the trans people, of course, because evil flows through people and it destroys them as it does. 1.00

00:40:35.080 No one gets out of that alive.

00:40:36.540 But it's not just the trans stuff.

00:40:38.860 That's just the kind of, like, final – you know, it's come to fruition.

00:40:41.660 But it's all the sexual sin destroys people and it destroys your society. 0.93

00:40:45.480 And that's why no society has ever had the view that was common in La Jolla, California in 1980, which is, hey, man, none of it's a big deal.

00:40:53.680 It is a very big deal.

00:40:54.560 It's the biggest deal.

00:40:55.680 Paul talks about this quite a bit.

00:40:57.240 Not because he was, like, sexually repressed Pharisee or something.

00:40:59.940 Because it's true and everyone's always recognized it's true.

00:41:02.760 So we need, like, a radical rethinking of how we treat sex.

00:41:08.020 And it doesn't mean judging people.

00:41:10.700 It doesn't mean hurting people.

00:41:11.700 It doesn't mean putting people in prison or anything like that.

00:41:14.220 It just means telling the truth about what sex is, which is the root of procreation, the place where life begins, literally.

00:41:22.660 And so it's the most powerful, important thing.

00:41:25.560 Marriages without it die, of course.

00:41:28.240 So it's a good thing, but it can destroy not just people but a civilization.

00:41:33.080 And that has happened to ours.

00:41:34.440 There's no doubt in my mind at all.

00:41:36.320 You look at the 1960s, the counterculture, right?

00:41:40.800 This was the first thing.

00:41:41.760 You get rid of God and you massively expand sex. 0.97

00:41:45.800 Of course.

00:41:46.640 And you also see it at the heart of every violent cult, for example.

00:41:51.360 Of course.

00:41:51.600 I mean, the Manson family was all about dropping acid and having orgies.

00:41:56.620 The Jonestown cult had sexual weirdness, including bisexuality, at the core of it. 0.98

00:42:03.020 It's just a fact.

00:42:04.500 Jonestown also had a lot of critical race theory that people—

00:42:06.760 It had a lot of bad things.

00:42:08.080 But I'm just saying that sexual perversion accelerates everything because it gets right to the core of people.

00:42:15.580 It's not an intellectual exercise.

00:42:16.840 It messes with your hormones.

00:42:18.800 It can mess with your brain chemistry.

00:42:20.200 You send your—

00:42:20.480 Right.

00:42:20.760 They're all the physical manifestations.

00:42:22.720 Something that—

00:42:23.300 AIDS.

00:42:23.880 Okay.

00:42:24.080 My co-author, Joshua Lysak, he had this great—so he's a trained hypnotist as well.

00:42:31.840 And he talked about hypnosis and trans-like states, and he was talking about pornography.

00:42:36.860 And he said, what do people do when they're watching pornography?

00:42:41.160 They put themselves into a trans-like state. 0.98

00:42:43.660 Of course.

00:42:44.060 Why don't we treat—I don't understand why conservatives who haven't really done a lot, no offense, to make America better,

00:42:54.360 why not just treat, like, the people who run OnlyFans and the porn sites as, like, enemies because they are.

00:43:00.640 Why not just say that?

00:43:01.540 Like, why is that so hard?

00:43:02.320 If you can't even do that, if you can't say, like, turning, like, a huge number of young American women into prostitutes is bad 0.58

00:43:09.100 and call out the people who are getting rich from it, then what are you doing here exactly?

00:43:14.060 And they're totally incapable of doing that, and I don't know why.

00:43:16.920 I don't want to attack anybody, but, like, that's table stakes.

00:43:20.600 Are you kidding?

00:43:21.360 And, like, we're supposed to actually be conservative, right?

00:43:23.720 Well, if you can't say the people who run OnlyFans are bad and they're getting rich on slavery, sex slavery, which basically it is, 0.93

00:43:32.960 then what are you—I don't know, go do something else.

00:43:36.440 But, like, don't be in the commentary business.

00:43:38.400 Don't tell me you're conservative.

00:43:39.340 If you can't say you porn isn't, like, a locus of evil, way more dangerous than Iran, which is more dangerous to America, you porn or Iran? 0.93

00:43:47.820 It's not even a close call.

00:43:49.220 Stop.

00:43:49.880 Stop with your bullshit.

00:43:50.900 I don't want to hear any more of that.

00:43:52.200 Like, I don't get—anyway, whatever.

00:43:54.000 I'm sorry.

00:43:54.500 I'm obviously mad at a bunch of trends that are not being addressed adequately.

00:43:58.540 But what I'm really saying is—

00:44:00.080 Yeah, but you're right, because we can see this direct line between these types of top-of-funnel elements in our society and that are, by the way, supported and allowed and celebrated in many cases.

00:44:16.740 Oh, I did 500.

00:44:18.280 Oh, I did 1,000 in one day.

00:44:19.600 I'm going to break your record.

00:44:20.680 And, like, the media is, like, playing into it.

00:44:22.980 Well, right, but it goes to a larger thing, which is, like, blaming other people.

00:44:26.480 I mean, you know, and I would even say this.

00:44:29.200 I'm often attacked for, like, you know, focusing on Israel or whatever.

00:44:32.560 Obviously, we can't be controlled by a foreign government.

00:44:34.660 That's terrible.

00:44:35.680 On the other hand, our problems are not Israel's fault.

00:44:38.380 They're not Iran's fault.

00:44:40.040 They're not Russia's fault.

00:44:41.000 They're not China's fault.

00:44:41.740 They're our fault, actually.

00:44:42.840 They're our fault.

00:44:43.320 And that is the truth.

00:44:44.880 Yes.

00:44:45.060 And if you are constantly blaming other people—I wouldn't put up with that in my kids.

00:44:50.260 If I say, hey, why'd you do this?

00:44:51.840 Whoa, because so-and-so made me.

00:44:53.140 Oh, stop.

00:44:54.040 That's not allowed in my house.

00:44:55.320 We don't allow that.

00:44:56.280 And that's what Charlie was all about.

00:44:57.800 Yes.

00:44:58.260 Charlie was all about that.

00:44:58.960 And so, like, if you live in a world where people in your high school class are on OnlyFans,

00:45:03.340 I'm not attacking those poor people who feel they have to do that or have been misled into doing it.

00:45:07.820 But the people profiting from it are more dangerous and evil than Iran. 1.00

00:45:12.480 And they're certainly more of an imminent threat to your country.

00:45:14.700 Are you joking?

00:45:16.020 It's not even close.

00:45:17.080 So let's just reorient around honesty and truth and try to create a meaningful hierarchy of concern and threat.

00:45:25.500 And the number one threat that we face is people becoming bad.

00:45:30.540 That's the worst thing.

00:45:32.100 You can't have a good country with bad people.

00:45:34.020 And all of us have participated in that bad, including me.

00:45:36.420 And by the way—

00:45:36.980 And we should say that.

00:45:38.020 To your point, you know, the pre-1945 America, the It's a Wonderful Life America, which was made, obviously, you know, I think right around that time frame.

00:45:48.480 They all understood this.

00:45:50.080 Those are all called out in that film.

00:45:52.600 Because they didn't have nuclear weapons, so they couldn't tell themselves they were God.

00:45:55.840 Everyone who watched it completely understood, Tucker.

00:45:58.080 I could do this for several more hours.

00:46:00.280 We'll have to do that at some point.

00:46:02.000 But our time is unfortunately up.

00:46:05.260 You'll be there Sunday.

00:46:06.060 Jack, thank you.

00:46:07.060 Thank you for coming.

00:46:07.940 I appreciate it.

00:46:08.740 Thanks for having me.

00:46:11.220 We've got to do this for Charlie.

00:46:12.660 Amen.

00:46:13.420 And that's really all it comes down to.

00:46:14.820 And God bless Erica and the strength that she has.

00:46:18.920 She's an amazing person.

00:46:20.180 That's real.

00:46:21.080 And I'm just so happy that she's—

00:46:23.580 Oh, yeah.

00:46:24.360 And say prayers for her.

00:46:25.820 I mean, there's a, you know, the difficult—you know, whatever.

00:46:29.200 Life is a struggle, period.

00:46:30.400 Amen.

00:46:30.860 Ladies and gentlemen, as always, you have my permission.

00:46:32.880 Thank you.

00:46:44.820 Thank you.

00:46:45.360 Thank you.

00:46:46.080 Thank you.

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Human Events Daily with Jack Posobiec - September 19, 2025

Exclusive - Tucker Carlson, Eric Trump and Mike Cernovich on the Fight Between Good and Evil

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