00:02:36.720What is your reaction to being the target of so much violence
00:02:40.580and hearing these new details just as they're breaking?
00:02:44.180Well, I heard about the London situation, and I wish they would have told us about it a little bit, but it is what it is.
00:02:52.480You know, we had a great group of people there last night.
00:02:55.040We had both inside in terms of the people, the audience, and also because they were all, you know, they were strong, relatively speaking, compared to what the potential threat was.
00:03:06.160And the Secret Service and all law enforcement was, I thought they were outstanding.
00:03:10.680Well, I think you heard it directly from the president on Saturday night, Aisha, that in his words, we need to recommit ourselves as a country to toning down the rhetoric and to unifying around what makes our country great.
00:03:23.840That's true of everyone who works in this White House.
00:03:26.540But as I said, it's also true of everyone who has a voice and a platform across this country, whether you're on television, a podcast host, you know, people listen.
00:03:38.140And when you have mentally disturbed individuals across the country who are listening to this crazed rhetoric about the president day after day after day, it inspires them to do crazy things.
00:03:48.820And unfortunately, it's not just the media.
00:03:51.820It is the entire Democrat Party has made their pitch to voters across the country that Donald Trump poses an existential threat to democracy, that he is a fascist and that they compare him to Hitler.
00:04:03.740I mean, these are despicable statements that the American people have been consuming for years.
00:04:08.760And so many mentally perturbed individuals are led to believe these words are truth and then are inspired to act on it.
00:04:15.760I have a whole host of examples that we can share with you after.
00:04:19.400It is pages and pages of major Democrat Party elected officials saying such as Rep. Hakeem Jeffries just this April, this month, said we are in an era of maximum warfare everywhere all the time.
00:04:32.740Governor Josh Shapiro said heads need to roll within the administration.
00:04:38.160Senator Alex Padilla said people are, quote, dying because of fear and terror caused by the Trump administration.
00:04:44.460Senator Elizabeth Warren, President Trump is making the country look like a, quote, fascist state.
00:04:49.920Senator Adam Schiff saying President Trump using a dictator playbook.
00:04:53.840Senator Ed Markey calling President Trump a dictator, saying that this administration's actions are authoritarianism on steroids.
00:05:01.240Governor J.B. Pritzker, never before in my life have I called for mass protest disruptions.
00:05:06.400These Republicans cannot know a moment of peace.
00:05:09.800You have Rep. Presley saying, we'll see you in the streets.
00:05:13.700Monica McIver, a Democrat representative on Capitol Hill, we will not take this shit from Donald Trump.
00:05:19.840He thinks he's a dictator. We are at war.
00:05:22.880These are Democrat elected officials calling for war against the president of the United States and his supporters.
00:05:28.560I could go on and on. But again, when you have people in positions of power that are saying things like this every single day for years, you are inspiring violence by people who are already mentally ill.
00:05:40.540And that's what we've seen against this president for far too long.
00:05:44.840Ladies and gentlemen, welcome aboard today's edition of Human Events Daily.
00:05:48.640We're here live in Washington, D.C. Real America's voice today is April 27th, 2026.
00:07:48.760Well, it's good to finally have you on, man.
00:07:50.500And for folks who don't know this, that you were an advisor in Trump's 2016 campaign,
00:07:55.900but also, incredibly and unbeknownst to yourself,
00:07:59.900you were an eyewitness to the White House Correspondents' Dinner shooter.
00:08:06.140Tell us what happened on Saturday night.
00:08:09.680Sure. Well, Jack, as you've been to the event as well, the Hilton Ballroom,
00:08:13.700you go through a metal detector and let's just say there's 200 yards to an escalator where you're
00:08:18.700taken to the basement where the ballroom is. If you go up that escalator to another 200 yards to
00:08:24.440your left are the two bathrooms. I was being hosted by the Washington Times. Our table was
00:08:28.880right by the door and I had to use the facilities as we like to say. So I went up the escalator and
00:08:34.780I saw Wolf Blitzer leaving the men's bathroom. I made a left and around that center mark we spoke
00:08:42.100for over 30 seconds under a minute and i'm at the door and i hear a pop and it sounded it didn't
00:08:51.020sound like uh it didn't sound like a full shot like you know a gunshot you know i live in new
00:08:57.160york i grew up in new york it didn't sound like a gunshot but it also didn't sound as if there
00:09:01.280was a silencer it's almost as if i thought some protester got through with like a clicker or
00:09:06.480something was trying to cause a skirmish and i look back i see wolf blitzer on the floor
00:09:11.020And then I see a gentleman fall and I hear shots. Now, this is all within three to four seconds. But as you would know, when something like this happens, everything slows down. And I then see Secret Service or FBI running up to the gentleman on the floor, Wolf on the floor. And I go into the men's bathroom and I just tell everyone there was around five or six people there. I said, there were just shots fired. Everybody go back.
00:10:05.320just leave. And I then immediately left the hotel and walked back to my hotel room. Of course,
00:10:12.320many people, friends and colleagues thought that the event may restart. And having worked for
00:10:17.040President Trump for five years, I knew that, of course, he wanted to go back, but that our first
00:10:23.220lady would, of course, stop him from doing so. And that was it. And then you learn more and more
00:10:30.500details as it happened so uh that's that's uh that's the description i have so sam you say you
00:10:38.540say that you saw him on the ground were you able to tell and i know he asked this on the phone but
00:10:43.300i'll say it again were you able to tell did he have that we're told he had this shotgun do you
00:10:48.400were you able to see if he had the shotgun in his hand or a handgun were you able to see what was in
00:10:53.960his hands i wasn't able to see um i saw some i think it was a shotgun because if there was
00:11:02.740something longer in his hands but once again i you know when something like that happens as we
00:11:07.220were talking about you know i just immediately then turn my back and go into the other room
00:11:11.180because you don't want the authorities to think you're somehow involved or you're looking right
00:11:14.320so uh you don't want them to lose their line of sight or concentration so i just immediately went
00:11:19.520in but i i did not see him run through i want to be clear i did not see him run through the
00:11:23.900metal detectors and that initial clicking i heard and must have been when he shot the secret service
00:11:29.740agent so because this is the way it's set up right you're you're basically around the next corner
00:11:34.960going down the hallway to where the bathroom is but that's sort of it's sort of right next to
00:11:39.740where the top of the escalator was right it's not it's the top of the escalator and it's around
00:11:45.140uh 50 to 75 let's call it feet i wouldn't say yards i mean or you know maybe 25 to 30 yards
00:11:53.360away from the metal detectors where uh where he ran through and where he ran through when he was
00:11:59.260when he was taken down and and as you say he was tackled and taken down how close was he to the
00:12:05.820escalator he was uh halfway uh he was within the line of of the escalator so so if you go up the
00:12:18.140escalator you make a left right and then i see you have like 200 let's call it uh yards i'll just
00:12:23.800say yards it isn't yards 200 feet and he was within uh he was perpendicular to the escalator
00:12:30.420so he was close he he he was close to the escalator yeah he was close to the escalator
00:12:37.020and the metal detectors are are close to the escalator i mean look i've been to that event
00:12:41.480uh four four times in total and you know you know in certain times first of all it's very strange
00:12:48.360jack as we talked about because when you walk into the washington hilton that's right where
00:12:51.480president reagan shot right so you immediately i immediately always think about that and it's
00:12:56.120a weird energy it is a weird energy and then in the event itself um something that was a little
00:13:03.400uh i even thought i was like wow i don't i didn't think it was a security i wouldn't use the word
00:13:09.000security risk. But the vice president is introduced. I see the secretary of war. I see
00:13:14.240the secretary of treasury. I see the secretary of homeland security, acting attorney general.
00:13:19.300And Director Patel is like two tables up for me. And, you know, when I used to go to this event
00:13:27.500before, whether it was 2017 to 2020 even, I would still say that that was a hybrid analon digital
00:13:34.940age in terms of 3D print, in terms of drones, whatever else. I mean, that's just not the venue
00:13:40.800anymore for an event like this. President Trump is absolutely right. You know, you can't have an
00:13:45.560event like this in a public institution. It's got to be in something like the ballroom.
00:13:52.320Yeah, look, and you're, you know, people were getting on me for talking about the ballroom
00:13:57.100and other people, but it's just a practical consideration. It's about everyone's safety.
00:14:01.360It's about keeping people safe. I think that when the ballroom is set up, these things are going to go on and it's going to be routine and nobody is even going to make to bat an eye when other presidents start to use it for the exact same function, because certain things, I'm sorry, they're just common sense.
00:14:18.520They're just absolute common sense. I want to backtrack a little bit because and guys, if you could throw that that map up of what we were talking about is that so people have to understand that you go down to where the actual event hall was here.
00:14:33.400So there's the first level you enter, then you go down one level, then you're at the magnetometers and the escalators.
00:14:39.820So it's actually that's a level above where the actual event was taking place.
00:14:46.420So you have to go down the escalators to get to that final level.
00:14:49.620And then there are layers of security which ratchet up as you make your way closer and closer to where the actual event is.
00:14:57.360The problem is that myself and some others have said is that the security parameters really don't start.
00:15:04.200Those layers didn't start until you were actually in the hotel.
00:15:07.440And to the point we're learning now that this guy was a guest at the hotel.
00:15:12.360So, Sam, walk us through a little just when you showed up, what was the security like?
00:15:18.340Well, first of all, first of all, we had to walk.
00:15:21.520There were so many protesters around the city.
00:15:23.400I didn't think that they were they didn't look total antifa to me, but these weren't exact.
00:15:28.140But they also they weren't your friendly left protesters either.
00:15:32.000And I had to get out of my car around five blocks or so and walk up, walk up to the Washington, to the Hilton.
00:15:37.300And you heard people screaming about Iran, about that he's a, that the president's a pedophile, Epstein's best friend. And you then get, you then get to the hotel and they make you just flash your, your invite. And yes, the invite is unique. There, there is some, you know, but it can easily be copied.
00:16:01.700And then you get into the lobby of the hotel right at the entrance where President Reagan was shot.
00:16:09.200You know, there's a couple different bar, restaurants.
00:16:12.080But the escalator down is right, you know, it's very, very close.
00:16:17.860It's still kind of tight quarters because also remember, this is D.C.
00:16:21.480There's just not a lot of space for everything, right?
00:16:23.500And you go down the first escalator where the red carpet is.
00:16:28.540And so it was it was a pretty tight situation. You know, it's ironic to me. I'll bring up one other point. I worked for President Trump in 2010. And he told me how he had spoken to David Axelrod, who he knew through The Scarborough Show. And he said to Axelrod, when Obama was elected, he said, you got to let me build a ballroom.
00:16:46.540And he said, because you and now from his point of view, it wasn't security at that point.
00:16:49.860But he said, you know, you're you're hosting world leaders.
00:16:51.860You're having these state dinners and you guys are sitting under tents.
00:16:55.300And Axelrod, you know, told this to the press and laughed at President Trump.
00:16:59.820And just like, you know, this this assassination attempt where they didn't get him once again, he's going to be proven right.
00:17:06.000And that ballroom and that ballroom will be there.
00:17:08.460I'm not going to criticize myself, the Secret Service.
00:17:13.060I just think that this event itself, it just cannot be held here. It cannot be held at that hotel anymore. Once again, as I said, I mean, here it's practical. It seems to me that there are reports that the gunman somehow slipped through on stairs and there was a doorway that he got through. But you can't have 200 plus guests in here and you can't have the entire cabinet there.
00:17:41.580Well, and Sam, you know, it's, no, and I certainly agree with you. It should have been a tier one event. And that was the front cover of the Washington Post this morning, where even the Washington Post is saying, why was this not declared a tier one national security event? And when you look at the Washington Hilton, and I don't know that anyone's actually put it this way yet, but we do need to say this.
00:18:01.060There have now been two attempted presidential assassinations at the same hotel.
00:19:18.060Attempted assassination of the president of the United States,
00:19:20.160Maximum penalty, life in prison, transportation of a firearm slash ammunition across state lines, maximum penalty 10 years, discharge of a firearm during a crime of violence, which, interesting, minimum 10 years, must run consecutive other sentences, suspect remains in custody, detention hearing set for Thursday, April 30th.
00:19:38.640This is before the magistrate judge. So interesting. They are charging him with discharge of a firearm because, Sam, I was actually just going to ask you that question is, you know, do you think you heard a shotgun go off?
00:19:54.760Now we're hearing that, you know, he's being charged with discharge of a firearm. Was that was that something that you were able to hear or tell from your vantage point?
00:20:03.860you know i've been to the gun range but i definitely heard a large pop it did but i
00:20:14.380would assume that it was uh maybe because of the way he built this thing or he put something around
00:20:19.840it but i would assume that it was him discharging a shot because i heard one shot and then i heard
00:20:26.800multiple shots fired afterwards so i definitely think he discharged his uh firearm that's right
00:20:34.700and and there's a c-span clip that has it as well that has the audio and it does sound like
00:20:39.940that first you know that pop that crack and then you know and then a pause and then pop pop pop
00:20:46.380pop pop immediately after that so that may have been the discharge of the firearm that we are
00:20:51.940that we're seeing him charge of and of course the investigation uh continues on from here
00:20:56.640and we're going to get more information and certainly hope we do get more information from
00:20:59.960this and from the manifesto. But when you mentioned the manifesto, and I'll just say for myself
00:21:04.380reading it, what struck me as so interesting was that it didn't seem any, you know, any example of
00:21:12.540being deranged. It didn't seem like he was schizophrenic. There were no ramblings in this
00:21:17.280at all. It was just simple, straightforward content that you would see from MSNBC or Blue
00:21:24.840sky. And he said, because of these things, I have now decided to take it upon my hands to take out
00:21:31.360the president. And then, Sam, to your point, the manifesto gets read to the attempted victim
00:21:39.700to his face the next day. I've never seen anything like this.
00:21:45.180Right. I mean, if you notice, you and I are not mentioning his name. You and I are not,
00:21:49.640uh you know going to talk about what you know read the specifics of the of the manifesto let's
00:21:55.480say and but to do that on cbs 60 minutes as well that's a that's the legacy largest news news
00:22:02.920magazine program in the united states and everyone or anyone that interview probably had 20 plus
00:22:09.180million viewers on linear dying tv so the fact that she she would read that to him it's uh you
00:22:17.780And, you know, she's probably so stupid that she didn't even understand what she was doing.
00:22:22.880You know, you can't blame her from that point of view.
00:22:24.900But somebody should have told her, look, there, that she can't read it.
00:22:27.940And, you know, I noticed people like Dana White, me, others, you know, we're pretty calm and cool when something like this happens.
00:23:37.160We could talk about Jeffrey Epstein. We could talk about whether we think it was handled well.
00:23:43.180I mean, I remember when you were in the White House and Bondi gives you a bunch of documents that had already been released.
00:23:49.040But let's remember, the fact of the matter is that you have a leftist.
00:23:52.900And I have these people, these protesters screaming at me that Donald Trump's a pedophile and a rapist.
00:23:57.660And Donald Trump is the one who prosecuted Jeffrey Epstein.
00:24:00.960George W. Bush is the one who gave him a sweetheart deal. Barack Obama didn't do anything.
00:24:04.200And I would note that after Epstein, I believe, killed himself in that prison, from 2021 till 2025, you had the most porous, unsecure border where children are being trafficked.
00:24:28.620And when you hear Dan Bongino, what Cash and him are doing and trying to do going after these rings, my question always is when I hear what Dan Bongino's been doing is why wasn't this done before?
00:24:43.140You know, they simply they will never let this man live a normal life.
00:24:47.560They will never they can never get over that he was elected president.
00:24:50.620Because just like you and I, when we were talking about this early on in the campaign, he was essentially a third party candidate taking over both parties.
00:24:58.620Both parties. So he's a threat to both. And Sam, it's it's real simple because you'll see the Democrats.
00:25:03.680They'll say, oh, you know, you bring up political violence and you bring up the rhetoric and you talk SPLC and you talk the way they target people.
00:25:10.500And they put a target on the back of Charlie Kirk. And right before he was killed, just a couple of months before, at the beginning of the summer of 2025.
00:25:18.740And yet they never seem willing to police their own side when it comes to this.
00:25:24.360But if you make one off-color joke on the right, they immediately, and it used to be before Elon, they would censor you immediately.
00:25:33.720Exactly. Exactly. And, you know, they're basically, a lot of their side is crazy to begin with.
00:25:42.920So their type of rhetoric, you're going to have more and more of this, frankly.
00:25:46.760And they're not mentally well, a lot of them, whether it's a trans community or somebody like this person.
00:25:55.220And it's just they really need to cool down the temperature.
00:26:41.500great job jack thank you what a job you do you know we have an incredible thing we're always
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00:28:52.820And I appreciate you doing so there from the White House, where obviously things are tense today.
00:28:59.340Walk us through what happened from your perspective that evening.
00:29:06.600Sure. The night started out normal, obviously.
00:29:10.340And it's pretty much your nightmare for anybody that's there for a purpose, which was to support each other and see the president speak for the first time as a president.
00:29:21.820at the White House Correspondents' Dinner, and I was sitting, and all of a sudden I just heard
00:29:27.080gunshots, and I wasn't really, I thought I heard it, and then I looked around and realized people
00:29:33.240started hitting the floor, and they were screaming, shots fired, get down, get down. So I, you know,
00:29:38.900in my gown, got on the floor like everybody else and took cover. It was frightening, honestly. And
00:29:45.400then I saw Secret Service run in. I saw them with their guns up, so I knew something was wrong. I
00:29:49.340saw the president get rushed off. Um, and I think my biggest concern was making sure he didn't get
00:29:53.460hit at that moment and to get out of there safely for my children and my family. No, and, and, and
00:30:00.100so many there with family members, wives, um, Katie Miller, who's pregnant and, and Stephen
00:30:08.680and Caroline Levitt, who's pregnant, her husband there. It's just so, and other, by the way,
00:30:16.840other members of the admin. There's the whole pregnancy thing going on in the admin right now.
00:30:21.440And the idea that something like this would happen, and I hate to say it, Alina,
00:30:26.160now as terrible as it was and as awful as it was, were you really surprised that there was
00:30:31.460yet another assassination attempt on this president? I wish I could say I was. I think
00:30:39.540it's a real result of the rhetoric. You heard Caroline Levitt, I'm sure, at her press conference.
00:30:44.200I think she stated it perfectly. This is political violence. It has to stop. There's not a question.
00:30:50.540It's not a debatable fact. It's a fact. We saw his manifesto, the fact that he wanted to take
00:30:55.400down Trump officials, the fact that a lot of his sentiments echo those statements that you see
00:30:59.680on social media, that you see on networks that are so frankly creating radicalization, in my
00:31:06.740opinion. And we're seeing it time and time again. I mean, the man has publicly had three assassination
00:31:12.760attempts. And that's not even, you know, disclosing, I'm sure, the private things that we don't know
00:31:18.380about that I'm sure is going on. And it's just not right. You know, I've sat through Democratic
00:31:23.120presidents like you have. We weren't doing this. We weren't having assassination attempts on their
00:31:28.780life because of rhetoric and a psychiatric problem, frankly, that when we say TDS, it's almost
00:31:35.040too light to say it that way. It's not Trump derangement syndrome. It's much deeper than that.
00:31:39.320And it's a hatred that not just goes to President Trump, but anybody in his cabinet, anybody who's working for him and his top officials of the administration and frankly, even normal people that don't deserve it, that just are conservative, that agree with his policies, that agree with the country, that agree with how well he's doing for our country right now.
00:32:01.320And I understand that you were actually with Erica Kirk earlier in the evening.
00:32:09.940Yes. Yeah. It was a pleasure to see her. And I'm sad that she was there because I can't imagine,
00:32:16.420you know, obviously Charlie was a friend of ours and I cannot imagine. And I obviously saw
00:32:20.620how upset she was and rightfully so. The trauma of having to go through that and endure that so
00:32:25.780soon after your husband's passing and tragic assassination and to actually have to live that
00:32:30.760was I pray for her. I prayed for her anyway, but I prayed for her particularly after that event.
00:32:36.520She's such a kind soul. And it was it was sad. But I'm glad I got a good hug in before, unfortunately, the events unfolded.
00:32:43.520No, I'm glad you were able to do so. I, you know, having gone through that experience after Charlie and then seeing something like this, it's nobody.
00:32:52.520Nobody should have to do this. Nobody deserves this. Erica doesn't deserve this.
00:32:56.520this. Nobody does. To think that something like this could happen just seven months after and then
00:33:02.440here we are again with more shots fired, more shots being, you know, ringing out, steps away
00:33:08.500from where people are dressed up to be polite, to be peaceful. Something has gone completely wrong
00:33:16.780in our country. And by the way, if this were on the right, I'd want it cleaned up. If this were
00:33:21.260on the left, which it is, I want it cleaned up as well. Is that so much to ask as a basic American
00:33:26.220citizen? No, I don't think so. I think you're 100 percent right. But I think we also have to
00:33:32.940look at being accountable to those voices that are so anti-Trump, that are so anti this
00:33:39.340administration, that are literally spewing lies to get brownie points in the political world or
00:33:44.500to get somebody elected that are so sick, that are creating this mentality of people that maybe
00:33:49.040aren't so educated on the ins and outs, or maybe they are, but they're just echoing what they hear.
00:33:54.220They're echo chambers, and it's creating a radicalization that is unacceptable.
00:34:19.260And I really do hope this country can just bring it back to center, where people are
00:34:23.420allowed to have differences, where people can respect those differences. And you can have
00:34:26.580debate. Charlie was big on that. It's OK to have debate, to talk, to disagree. But this reaction,
00:34:33.760this sickness that we're seeing, it's just wrong. Weaponization and pulling out guns and bullets,
00:34:40.740it's not OK. It's not the way to handle disagreements. And it's most certainly not
00:34:44.200going to help anything. I've actually said in the past that I think it starts with censorship,
00:34:48.560that it starts with this idea of you're not allowed to say that and your words are violence,
00:34:55.220which we saw on college campuses. We saw on big tech. And it's this idea that we have to shut
00:35:01.860down the speech that we don't like. Well, if you can't get it off campus and you can't get it off
00:35:06.840social media, what's the final step that people would take? And that seems to be the way these
00:35:12.440people are thinking. That's right. And, you know, also you see people complain that, you know,
00:35:20.020Oh, first amendment violations, all these things. So that's not, you can't lie. You have a
00:35:25.020responsibility when you hold a mic, like I am, when you hold a mic, like you do, when you have
00:35:28.720a voice, no matter how big or how small you have a responsibility, uh, you should be educating
00:35:33.620more than inflaming. And I think that realistically, what we're seeing from the
00:35:37.820left is just straight inflammation of of of this country and polarization that I've never seen
00:35:44.320before. And it's it's very scary time for us. No, it absolutely is. And look, you and I could
00:35:49.780sit here and go through the list of incendiary comments that have been made by Democrats,
00:35:54.180officials, Chuck Schumer, Nancy Pelosi, Jamie Raskin and so many others. We could go through
00:36:00.240late night hosts and on air hosts, which they don't actually seem to be any difference or any
00:36:06.180any daylight between the rhetoric that you see beyond here.
00:36:10.300And they've created this ecosystem, and it all needs to stop.
00:36:14.300It all absolutely needs to stop where they sit there and they say,
00:36:19.520well, this needs to happen, or this needs to happen, or this needs to happen.
00:36:22.120And we find out, and this is an incredible indictment over the SPLC,
00:36:25.120where they were paying for our extremist groups to go out and say these terrible things,
00:36:31.440And then the left could point to them and say and then use that to be tied to Trump and MAGA and just sort of your average conservative organization like Turning Point USA and saying, oh, see, they're all the same and they all need to be stopped.
00:36:45.820And then you know what? Somebody eventually gets the message and they pick up a gun and decide to take matters into their own hands.
00:36:52.800We've got a quick break. I'd love to be able to hold you on because this is such an important conversation.
00:36:59.380One more segment. If you can stay with us, I'd really appreciate it. Human Events Daily, Real America's Voice.
00:37:04.100Call this the Jack Posobiec Appreciation Hour.
00:37:06.440I can say confidently, I believe, I think Josh Shapiro would be the vice presidential nominee if it wasn't for Jack Posobiec.
00:37:14.340All right, Jack Kosovic, we're back live.
00:37:21.040We're here at Human Events Daily, Real America's Voice, Washington, D.C.
00:37:24.920We're on with Senior Advisor to the Attorney General Alina Haba.
00:37:28.000She's very graciously agreed to come back to a second segment with us after some meetings that she was having at the White House.
00:37:35.500This is, of course, after the press briefing that we saw with Caroline Levitt.
00:37:39.320Alina, actually, if I could just ask you what, you know, obviously, we know you can't get into the off the record details, but what's the mood at the White House today?
00:37:51.000You know, I have to tell you, resilience, as always, you know, there's a real call for transparency and accountability.
00:37:59.940I think that we have to acknowledge that certain statements cannot be made and should not be made.
00:38:05.480And everybody's on the same page. Look, we are under the great leadership of President Trump.
00:38:11.600And the man is fearless. He is in love with this country. And it shows in moments like these
00:38:20.640moments, unfortunately, that should never happen like Saturday and his reaction. It kind of leads
00:38:25.640the way for everybody that works under him. And you see that, you know, Caroline, she wasn't
00:38:30.160supposed to be here today and she showed up and it was important for her to do that. And as she
00:38:34.780said, we're public servants and we're under the great leadership of President Trump. And he sets
00:38:38.900an example for us all. That's exactly right. You know, I'm looking more and we've been digging in
00:38:45.260here at Human Events and, you know, up all weekend as well into the background of this shooter. And
00:38:51.200it's something that, you know, I think might seem surprising to a lot of people because we see an
00:38:56.100individual here who high achievement in high school and college academics, elite level
00:39:04.120academics, high SAT scores, and we're also seeing that he was a teacher. What is going on that we
00:39:13.280have teachers now being so radicalized? And of course, we've talked about indoctrination on
00:39:19.240campus. My gosh, that's what Charlie Kirk built his entire career, was talking about indoctrination
00:39:24.880on campus. How has it gotten so bad that even teachers are doing something like this?
00:39:31.080well i think it's an important point i don't think that there's anybody that's um not able
00:39:38.580to be permeated by the messages that are being received and indoctrinated and even this individual
00:39:44.580i mean it is scary to me that he was a teacher but to be honest uh when i was the u.s attorney
00:39:49.300i saw things that i never thought i would see uh that are incredibly disturbing when you see what's
00:39:53.960actually happening in in some of our school systems in some of uh just our communities
00:40:06.940The manifesto speaks to that, you know, and it doesn't matter who you are.
00:40:11.480It's scary that it's a teacher, but it's not surprising to me because some of these people, if they're vulnerable enough to listen to some of the rhetoric and be consuming it in an unhealthy manner, things like this will happen.
00:40:24.980And I think it's an important message.
00:40:26.280can't assume that it's just mentally disturbed individuals that would take a gun and try and
00:40:30.900shoot a president or administration leaders. I think it's crazy, but I also think it's important
00:40:36.100that we recognize that exact point. This was not some bum. This was not some random person.
00:40:41.880He had a job, you know, he and it still happened and he still did this and he was still willing
00:40:47.300to ruin his own life for the sake of killing leadership and the president of the United States.
00:40:53.320no it shows that this is pervasive it shows and and and yes we've got some photos up that seems
00:41:00.840that he was from a loving family a tight family um so that some of the normal excuses i think fall
00:41:07.200away and what we really do have to hone in on and barack obama of course came out and told us that
00:41:13.940uh we we have no idea what the motive is and barack obama said we still don't know even though
00:41:18.920there's a manifesto and it's very clear this is left-wing violent ideology it has become
00:41:25.260radicalized the same way like when i was at gitmo and we would have the radical islamic terrorist
00:41:30.940that they would state that radical islam was their ideology that was their motivating factor
00:41:38.400and so alina from that perspective why is it that we keep hearing over and over that the media won't
00:41:45.560come out and just tell us that this was the motive. Yeah, I don't know. I don't know why
00:41:52.700Jimmy Kimmel still has a job after what he did, to be honest. I mean, that was another despicable
00:41:57.920event. But how dare he? What he said was just disgusting. I mean, beyond the pale of things
00:42:04.160that I'm frankly, unfortunately, getting used to hearing, have heard it for years. But there are
00:42:08.440there are no boundaries anymore with this left wing rhetoric. There's no boundaries and you have
00:42:14.360to stop. The president is calling for it. The press secretary called for it. And I'm calling
00:42:20.520for it for what it's worth. You know, it's unhealthy. It was already bad when we were
00:42:25.360dealing with the weaponization of the justice system for the last, frankly, it's been years
00:42:30.300before my time. But you're seeing people win elections on getting Trump, right? That's how
00:42:36.720I started. That's how I became known to this world. And it's disgusting that somebody could
00:42:42.540do that and win an election that's what's come down to not policies not uh campaign strategies
00:42:48.600which president trump has stuck to everything he promised he has been trying to do and has done
00:42:54.300and has succeeded and beyond and he's putting america first as he promised and making america
00:42:59.400great again as he promised we have a sick sick world right now and it is being poisoned by that
00:43:06.320left-wing radical rhetoric and it has to stop and by the way people like jimmy should be held
00:43:10.620accountable. Look, I remember Jimmy, when Charlie was killed, Jimmy Kimmel was the first one who
00:43:17.000went on TV and lied, just absolutely lied again about the motivations of that assassin in that
00:43:24.260case, where he said he blamed it on MAGA. He blamed it on people who have been peaceful towards
00:43:32.000political opponents. He said it was not his side's problem. He's got a huge blind spot,
00:43:37.820But actually, and I'm just going to say it, I think he does these things on purpose.
00:43:41.300I think he does these things on purpose because he wants his side to believe that it's always the other side's fault.
00:43:50.280Of course they do. It's all intentional.
00:43:52.360I mean, it's intentional and the networks that host them and pay them need to be aware that, you know, that it's unacceptable and hold them accountable.
00:44:00.000You know, it's no different than anybody in a job.
00:44:03.100You cannot allow him to say the things he said about the first lady and the president.
00:44:07.080You cannot allow it. You are setting a horrible example that is not just an example, but it is creating a real life problem, as we've seen time and time again.
00:44:15.460And I hope in my in my lifetime that that is the last time I hear or see anything like this again for any president.
00:44:22.720Well, you know, you mentioned the networks. And if I remember correctly, I think I saw some some news that you yourself might be going on ABC in short order here.
00:44:35.060did i see something across my across the news desk here that you're going to be on the view
00:44:39.680i am i am i'm going to be on the view on wednesday yep so something tells me that this might come up
00:44:49.780i mean i hope so i hope so look i hope to engage in some some uh conversations that i think need
00:44:59.520to be had. And look, the view they've spoken about me before, they like to say whatever they
00:45:06.060think their talkers are. But that's a perfect example. Again, ABC host Jimmy Kimmel of them
00:45:12.460needing to be accountable for the words that they use and and being careful of the damage that it's
00:45:17.260causing. And I look forward to joining them and and we'll see how it goes. I'll be there on Wednesday.
00:45:23.180No, I'm certainly I look, you know, I certainly hope that it's a good discussion.
00:45:29.500You know, you'd think in the wake of something like this, that maybe we could all find some common ground and agree that, hey, if we're doing media or serving government like yourself as a public official, that we could all agree on certain ground rules.
00:45:42.700Even if we disagree on policy, we should never make it personal.
00:45:46.860I don't know. How do you think it's going to go?
00:45:48.460100 percent 100 percent i hope so you know it's up to them um obviously i'm not one to take things
00:45:55.760uh down lightly but i i will say that um i my hope is to come in and have an actual discussion
00:46:02.300that's informative not inflammatory um and uh i think their responsibility and mine as a guest
00:46:08.280is to try and keep the temperature down and to educate the country that different views are okay