Human Events Daily with Jack Posobiec - Faith, Sacrifice and the American Pope： A Memorial Day Special

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00:00:30.000 This is what happens when the fourth turning meets fifth generation warfare.

00:00:40.760 A commentator, international social media sensation, and former Navy intelligence veteran.

00:00:47.380 This is Human Events with your host, Jack Posobiec.

00:00:50.500 Christ is here.

00:00:51.500 It appears as if we are now seeing white smoke spew from the actual chimney of the Sistine Chapel.

00:00:58.420 The Catholic Church has a new leader this morning, and for the first time in history, it's an American-born pope.

00:01:05.620 Absolute shocking pick.

00:01:07.780 The first American pope.

00:01:10.260 This is not something that anyone saw coming.

00:01:12.960 From a leaked FBI memo to the arrest of a British priest, the signs seem to point to a crackdown on Catholics in Britain.

00:01:21.040 Father Sean Goff was charged for silently praying outside of a closed abortion clinic last week.

00:01:26.860 Meantime, a leaked memo from the FBI field office in Richmond, Virginia, which the FBI has since retracted, warned that so-called radical traditional Catholics could be a threat to national security.

00:01:39.820 I think a lot of young people are just really lost, and some of us have found or reclaimed a meaningfulness through establishment, like through this institution of the church.

00:01:54.820 You know, when I was in college, some of the sense of doing Eucharistic adoration was seen as something like, oh man, that's really radical.

00:02:00.920 In the last 20 years, that pendulum has swung far to the right.

00:02:06.080 Interest in that, for example, the traditional Latin mass, that is a real thing.

00:02:09.600 We have it here on campus, and it's a pretty significant group.

00:02:12.500 The American church's influence is growing.

00:02:15.120 U.S. cardinals now taking on increased responsibilities, helping to shape and shift Catholicism for the next generation. 0.90

00:02:21.780 All right, Jack Posobiec, here we are back.

00:02:25.500 Human Events Daily.

00:02:27.500 Today is May 26, 2025, Anno Domini.

00:02:32.280 It's Memorial Day in America, and why does Memorial Day seem to matter now more?

00:02:40.540 So today is not Veterans Day, by the way, and I don't always talk about this, but I say that as a veteran.

00:02:48.460 Memorial Day is for people who didn't make it back.

00:02:52.080 So don't just say, oh, thank you for your service today to any veteran.

00:02:55.640 Remember, it's for people who didn't make it back. 1.00

00:02:58.080 But by the way, you know, it's okay to say that, too.

00:03:00.780 I'm not one of those guys who's like, you know, about it.

00:03:03.560 But let's be serious.

00:03:05.400 Why does Memorial Day, why do Veterans Day, why do these things seem to matter more?

00:03:10.100 Because we're moving into an era of populist conservatism now.

00:03:17.180 And what does this mean?

00:03:17.940 This means that we're moving away from this idea of the universal liberalist values that we had had prior, whether a neoconservatism or a neoliberalism.

00:03:27.940 This idea that our goal in the world, America's role in the world, is to spread these liberalist ideals throughout the Middle East and throughout China and throughout Russia and Iran and all these places.

00:03:40.800 That's not what our role is.

00:03:42.220 Our role as the American people is to stand on the shoulders of giants, of the people who came before us, our ancestors, who forged this nation, who forged Western civilization.

00:03:57.400 Through abject adversity, through challenges, through thunderstorms, through hurricanes, through tsunamis, many of whom, and today is for them, paid the ultimate price, the full measure of devotion to their nation.

00:04:21.560 When you look at the flag, when you look at the flag, when you teach your children about that, that's what we're talking about.

00:04:28.900 We're not talking about some abstract ideals.

00:04:32.080 America is not an idea.

00:04:35.080 America is a place.

00:04:36.700 America is our home.

00:04:39.380 America is a people.

00:04:41.040 America is a people.

00:04:41.600 And for all of those forces and influences, globalism, communism, whatever ism you want to call it, you cannot change that fact.

00:04:52.220 You want to.

00:04:53.180 You deeply want to, but you cannot.

00:04:55.840 And so, we're going to talk about traditionalism, the role of traditionalism, here on the show today, as we remember and reflect on the service and sacrifice of the so many who came before us.

00:05:10.240 to give us the ability to live in this country today

00:05:14.740 and to pass on in our legacy a great country for our children,

00:05:20.100 for our grandchildren, and every generation yet to come.

00:05:26.780 Nothing will stand in our way.

00:05:29.200 And our golden age has just begun.

00:05:31.580 This is Human Events with Jack Posobo.

00:05:33.320 Now it's time for everyone to understand what America First truly means.

00:05:37.800 Welcome to the Second American Revolution.

00:05:44.420 All right, ladies and gentlemen, here we are back.

00:05:47.480 Human Events daily this Memorial Day,

00:05:52.220 a day that we remember the service and the sacrifice of so many who came before us

00:05:57.840 and gave the last full measure of devotion.

00:06:02.000 And fighting for your country, fighting for your people, fighting for your God

00:06:07.880 is what we are called to do.

00:06:10.720 And as an American, as a guy who happens to be a veteran,

00:06:16.020 and a guy who is a Polish Catholic,

00:06:18.760 you know, I always say we're Polish, me and my brother and my family,

00:06:21.820 we pretty much only come in one flavor.

00:06:24.760 Poles are always like that. 1.00

00:06:26.780 You know, we just got back from this covering this conclave

00:06:30.800 over in Rome at the Vatican,

00:06:34.520 and we have the appearance now of a new Pope,

00:06:40.120 being Pope Leo XIV.

00:06:43.040 And one of our sponsors for that coverage

00:06:46.120 was the great organization Catholics for Catholics

00:06:50.020 that's really been fighting for our country,

00:06:55.340 fighting for President Trump,

00:06:56.680 fighting to bring back these traditional ideals,

00:07:00.380 not just into the church, but into our country,

00:07:03.300 and really challenging other Catholics to say,

00:07:06.360 wait a minute, guys, this isn't the country that we fought for.

00:07:10.360 This isn't the country that our forefathers fought for.

00:07:13.500 We need to be good Catholics and be stewards of this nation,

00:07:17.340 not just sit there and, you know,

00:07:19.920 do the things like Catholic charities were doing

00:07:22.300 and so many others,

00:07:23.180 helping individuals break the law

00:07:25.880 and come in as illegal aliens.

00:07:28.100 No, we need to be stewards of the nations,

00:07:30.640 as God called us.

00:07:31.880 So I wanted to bring on the CEO of Catholics for Catholics Now,

00:07:36.520 John Yap.

00:07:37.260 What's up, John?

00:07:39.080 Great to be here.

00:07:40.340 We're talking through Zoom,

00:07:42.420 but about a week ago, two weeks ago,

00:07:44.020 we were there in Rome together covering that historic event

00:07:47.480 for not only for the Catholic Church,

00:07:48.680 but for America,

00:07:49.500 having our first elected American Pope.

00:07:52.620 Here we are.

00:07:53.380 John, have you,

00:07:54.400 now, had you ever been to a conclave before?

00:07:56.320 Was that your first conclave as well?

00:07:58.600 I was there when Francis was elected.

00:08:00.760 Okay, I was a seminarian,

00:08:01.740 so I was wearing black and a Roman collar.

00:08:03.760 Wow.

00:08:04.800 And spending time there studying

00:08:06.140 at the Regina Apostolorum in Rome.

00:08:08.760 And we got the notification,

00:08:11.880 just like you had with Cardinal Prevost.

00:08:15.160 And we all ran down to the square.

00:08:16.620 I think I ran about two miles

00:08:17.820 and hitchhiked the rest of the way

00:08:19.480 and was there the moment when Pope Francis came out.

00:08:22.740 So not my first time,

00:08:25.180 but truly never gets old.

00:08:28.340 What would you say,

00:08:29.760 and just my own curiosity,

00:08:31.500 was there much difference between the two?

00:08:34.700 Was there a sense of difference?

00:08:37.400 I mean, obviously, with Benedict,

00:08:39.600 you know, being alive,

00:08:40.920 there was certainly controversy

00:08:42.680 just swirling around the entire appointment

00:08:46.080 saying, how can we have, you know,

00:08:47.620 sort of two popes at once?

00:08:49.120 But, you know, what difference would you say

00:08:51.300 between Francis and Leo?

00:08:54.220 Definitely a difference.

00:08:55.760 In some ways, in other ways, not.

00:08:57.700 I mean, you had, of course,

00:08:59.380 back, what, February 2013,

00:09:01.160 you had Benedict resign.

00:09:03.000 The first time in roughly like 500 years

00:09:05.200 that a Catholic pontiff resigns from the papacy.

00:09:09.600 And then that, just that iconic shot

00:09:12.380 of him flying away in a helicopter

00:09:14.980 over to Castle Gandolfo in the distance.

00:09:18.140 And it was like, okay, we're without a pope,

00:09:20.620 but he's still alive, but we're without a pope.

00:09:22.240 And then just about a month later,

00:09:24.320 March 13th is when Pope Francis is elected, right?

00:09:28.280 Jorge Bergoglio.

00:09:29.800 Initially, not so much of a difference,

00:09:31.980 but then as we saw, you know,

00:09:33.980 what I believe is through others

00:09:35.300 that this was one of the most

00:09:36.580 devastating pontificates really

00:09:40.300 in the history of the Catholic Church

00:09:41.480 on so many different levels.

00:09:42.700 You probably would agree, Jack,

00:09:43.840 in some respect, not only doctrinally

00:09:46.740 on what happened just if you're a Catholic

00:09:48.740 and you care about these issues,

00:09:50.280 the obfuscation of doctrine,

00:09:52.880 marriage and the family, the Eucharist,

00:09:55.280 the blessing of same-sex couples,

00:09:56.920 you name it.

00:09:57.820 You got that.

00:09:58.760 But then you also have the geopolitical side.

00:10:00.620 And I know we're going to get into that.

00:10:02.280 It's one of your fields of expertise

00:10:03.580 with the whole unholy alliance

00:10:06.920 with the Chinese Communist Party

00:10:08.440 and what that did.

00:10:10.280 And then, of course, the sexual cover-ups,

00:10:13.100 people like McCarrick, Father Rupnick.

00:10:15.080 So devastating in a lot of ways.

00:10:17.300 So this current conclave that we just had,

00:10:21.060 it was extremely important,

00:10:23.820 not only for the church, but for the world.

00:10:25.760 Well, and John, you know,

00:10:29.240 the biggest issue when we look at all of this

00:10:31.940 and where you saw Pope Francis

00:10:34.800 and President Trump getting into it

00:10:37.100 was this issue of illegal immigration

00:10:40.380 and the issue of borders.

00:10:43.080 And Francis would come out.

00:10:44.600 And by the way, you know,

00:10:45.800 I've always tried to be fair

00:10:47.440 and say that Francis also did hold the line on abortion.

00:10:51.780 He held the line on war.

00:10:55.260 He was anti-war.

00:10:56.200 So I've always tried to be fair.

00:10:57.820 And every time I talk about him,

00:10:58.760 I say, I'm going to say this as well

00:11:00.040 because it wasn't sort of a left versus right

00:11:02.720 kind of dichotomy.

00:11:03.940 It doesn't really work that way

00:11:05.140 when it comes to world leaders.

00:11:06.820 But he does wade into politics.

00:11:09.000 But by the way, John,

00:11:10.080 let's actually dispel something for people too

00:11:12.520 who are not Catholic

00:11:13.560 because we get this all the time.

00:11:15.480 When the Pope is speaking out on political issues,

00:11:18.980 is that something that all Catholics have to follow? 0.55

00:11:22.680 Or is that simply a bishop giving his opinion?

00:11:26.860 It's giving his opinion, right?

00:11:28.580 So an infallible statement

00:11:30.220 has a very specific formula

00:11:32.640 that needs to be uttered when he's speaking.

00:11:35.120 It also has to be in line

00:11:37.620 with what previous pontiffs

00:11:39.440 have always and everywhere taught, okay?

00:11:41.500 Previous popes.

00:11:42.380 He can't just make up anything he wants

00:11:44.100 on faith and morals.

00:11:44.820 And last but not least

00:11:46.520 is it must be rooted in sacred scripture.

00:11:50.320 So those three benchmarks

00:11:53.300 are really defined

00:11:54.360 an infallible statement from the Pope.

00:11:56.920 So when he talks about a political issue

00:11:59.920 and opinion,

00:12:01.680 we're not, you know,

00:12:02.560 we're required to give respect,

00:12:04.620 but we don't have to have our firm belief

00:12:07.840 behind that statement, right?

00:12:09.160 Because he gave off the cover marks all the time.

00:12:11.980 And I don't know, Jack,

00:12:12.980 even like, okay, what do you think about this?

00:12:14.180 So you got, yeah,

00:12:15.340 he was super strong on the abortion issue.

00:12:17.180 He had statements like,

00:12:19.020 someone who gets an abortion

00:12:20.400 is like hiring a hitman. 0.65

00:12:21.480 Typical Pope Francis,

00:12:22.520 just super blunt, right?

00:12:24.260 But at the same time,

00:12:25.980 he hires or he puts in charge

00:12:28.660 of the Pontifical Academy for Life.

00:12:30.940 This is kind of like the think tank of the Vatican

00:12:32.540 where they study issues of marriage,

00:12:34.320 life, family,

00:12:35.040 they produce documents.

00:12:36.340 Think of like Heritage Foundation,

00:12:37.760 but for the Catholic Church, right?

00:12:39.260 And the guy in charge of it

00:12:40.980 is Archbishop Paglia,

00:12:42.900 a guy who thought that abortion in Italy

00:12:46.140 was a great thing to have

00:12:47.560 and it was part of justice of society.

00:12:49.800 So he's the Pope of paradoxes.

00:12:51.660 On one hand, you have,

00:12:52.920 he says these statements,

00:12:54.240 but on the other hand,

00:12:54.920 his actions often do something else,

00:12:57.420 which I'm grateful that Pope Leo,

00:12:59.380 when the first acts he just did

00:13:01.560 in terms of appointments,

00:13:03.420 is he replaced Archbishop Paglia

00:13:05.200 and named Cardinal Reina,

00:13:07.060 who is much more orthodox,

00:13:08.600 to head the Pontifical Academy for Life.

00:13:10.540 No, and I saw that as well.

00:13:15.120 So these are huge, huge news.

00:13:17.620 By the way,

00:13:18.180 so something that I want people to know,

00:13:20.580 when we're talking about

00:13:21.640 these infallible statements

00:13:23.320 given by the Pope,

00:13:24.480 I believe in terms of

00:13:26.100 the extraordinary magisterium,

00:13:28.280 so this is the papal declaration

00:13:30.000 that's come out

00:13:31.220 in terms of the highest form

00:13:33.880 of an infallible statement by the Pope

00:13:36.120 in 2,000 years of church history,

00:13:39.420 it has only ever been used twice.

00:13:41.900 It has been used two times.

00:13:43.880 So these are not,

00:13:45.000 you know, these are very, very rare.

00:13:47.060 Once for the Immaculate Conception,

00:13:48.440 and then again for the Assumption of Mary,

00:13:50.240 1854 and 1950.

00:13:51.700 These are not common things.

00:13:54.500 And so when the Pope comes out

00:13:56.680 and he's giving his opinion

00:13:57.780 on political matters,

00:13:59.500 as, and we'll talk about this,

00:14:01.500 you know, J.D. Vance

00:14:02.400 and Michael Rubio going to meet with him,

00:14:04.300 President Trump talking about brokering

00:14:06.120 some potentially a peace deal

00:14:08.120 with, between Ukraine and Russia,

00:14:10.640 maybe some others.

00:14:12.020 What we're talking about is,

00:14:13.420 is his influence as a world leader,

00:14:15.960 which can be extremely useful,

00:14:18.060 like we saw during the papacy

00:14:19.960 of John Paul II

00:14:21.660 to fight the Soviet Union

00:14:23.760 because his power as a symbol.

00:14:26.440 And John, I'll tell you,

00:14:27.940 I'll preface this a little bit here.

00:14:29.880 We're coming up on our first break,

00:14:31.420 but what I'd love,

00:14:32.700 what I'd love in my,

00:14:33.420 in my heart of hearts,

00:14:34.400 what I'd love to see

00:14:35.260 is Pope Leo

00:14:36.500 going and speaking

00:14:38.780 to the people of China,

00:14:40.600 going and speaking

00:14:41.300 to the people that are there

00:14:42.540 living under the Chinese Communist Party.

00:14:45.480 The fact that this deal

00:14:46.820 played a role in,

00:14:48.620 we're hearing reportedly,

00:14:49.700 played a role

00:14:50.320 in the conclave itself.

00:14:53.400 We're going to get into

00:14:54.000 all that and more.

00:14:56.080 Can Pope Leo

00:14:57.140 go and open up

00:14:59.640 the hearts of China?

00:15:01.200 We'll be right back.

00:15:02.320 Jack Posobiec here,

00:15:03.940 Human Events Daily.

00:15:18.180 Today, you know,

00:15:19.180 they talk about influencers.

00:15:20.720 These are influencers

00:15:21.680 and they're friends of mine.

00:15:24.980 Jack Posobiec.

00:15:26.480 Where's Jack?

00:15:27.480 Jack.

00:15:27.760 He's done a great job.

00:15:30.540 All right, Jack Posobiec,

00:15:33.560 here we are back

00:15:34.420 live, Human Events Daily.

00:15:36.220 You're on Real America's Voice

00:15:37.720 and the Salem Radio Network.

00:15:41.060 We're on with John Gap,

00:15:42.700 Catholics for Catholics.

00:15:43.920 He's telling us about

00:15:44.840 his reporting

00:15:46.500 and his work

00:15:47.420 there at the conclave.

00:15:48.860 I was there as well

00:15:50.220 for,

00:15:51.160 which produced

00:15:52.020 Pope Leo XIV,

00:15:53.920 the first American pope

00:15:56.360 and we're digging

00:15:57.340 into some questions

00:15:58.380 about this.

00:15:59.440 John,

00:15:59.780 one of the things

00:16:00.660 that I actually did hear

00:16:02.000 reported by

00:16:04.160 a former colleague

00:16:05.160 of mine,

00:16:05.740 Alex Salvi,

00:16:07.000 we both were at OAN together.

00:16:08.480 He's now at Newsmax

00:16:09.280 and he's been stationed

00:16:10.360 there in Rome

00:16:10.860 for quite some time.

00:16:12.180 He reported

00:16:12.880 that one of the reasons

00:16:13.920 that Cardinal Parolin,

00:16:15.500 who had been widely

00:16:16.900 expected to be

00:16:18.340 the frontrunner

00:16:19.500 of,

00:16:20.360 in terms of this conclave,

00:16:22.300 that he was passed over

00:16:24.140 specifically because

00:16:25.200 of his connection

00:16:26.260 to the Vatican secret deal

00:16:27.940 with the Chinese

00:16:28.660 Communist Party

00:16:30.160 and that specifically

00:16:32.040 it was the Asian cardinals 0.59

00:16:34.260 sort of banded together.

00:16:35.800 Cardinal Zen,

00:16:36.420 of course,

00:16:36.860 flew from Hong Kong

00:16:38.160 to the conclave

00:16:39.480 to make this case

00:16:41.480 that that deal

00:16:43.140 and any connection to it

00:16:44.640 need to be shot down.

00:16:47.160 Have you heard this as well? 0.95

00:16:48.540 Have you heard this reporting

00:16:49.520 and what is your sense of it?

00:16:51.460 Heard the same thing.

00:16:52.300 One of the primary reasons

00:16:54.500 he was taken out

00:16:55.240 as a frontrunner

00:16:56.240 besides the health scare

00:16:57.560 that he had early on

00:16:58.740 in the preparatory meetings,

00:17:00.480 whether that was true or not,

00:17:01.820 that also shook the cardinals up

00:17:03.060 along with,

00:17:04.040 like you said,

00:17:05.080 the secret

00:17:06.000 China-Vatican accord

00:17:08.420 called secret

00:17:09.320 because we literally

00:17:10.660 don't know the contents

00:17:11.680 of what actually

00:17:12.600 has transpired

00:17:13.520 in that deal

00:17:14.340 where we know one thing

00:17:16.500 is that the Vatican

00:17:17.780 has allowed

00:17:18.980 for the first time

00:17:19.680 really in her history

00:17:21.540 a foreign entity

00:17:22.880 to basically name

00:17:24.460 the bishops

00:17:25.260 of our Catholic Church,

00:17:26.920 right?

00:17:27.100 So that's never been done before.

00:17:28.660 So why was that done

00:17:29.340 for Chinese Communist Party

00:17:30.620 when they openly persecute

00:17:33.320 Catholics and Christians

00:17:34.340 and Uyghur people,

00:17:35.420 et cetera?

00:17:36.080 That's a mystery.

00:17:37.060 So Perlin has his hands

00:17:38.240 stained with that

00:17:39.340 and that's one of the first things

00:17:40.740 that we're praying

00:17:41.700 that Pope Leo

00:17:42.440 rescinds right away.

00:17:43.960 And I love the way

00:17:47.740 you put that though

00:17:48.380 because that is exactly

00:17:49.880 what it's like.

00:17:50.700 It's this idea

00:17:51.980 that it's specifically

00:17:53.420 like the Uyghurs 1.00

00:17:54.900 that we understand

00:17:56.940 that these are people

00:17:59.160 that are being

00:17:59.860 completely mistreated

00:18:00.860 by their government.

00:18:02.920 They're people

00:18:03.680 who have been

00:18:04.120 completely overlooked

00:18:05.600 by the West

00:18:06.620 because we have this deal

00:18:07.840 with China.

00:18:08.680 So, oh,

00:18:09.240 they're going to make

00:18:09.960 all of our iPhones

00:18:11.200 and they're going to make

00:18:12.020 all of our superconductors

00:18:13.380 and all these different things.

00:18:14.940 But at the end of the day,

00:18:15.960 we know who they are

00:18:18.240 and we know

00:18:18.820 who this benefits

00:18:19.620 and what does it turn into

00:18:21.820 in the United States?

00:18:22.940 It also benefits

00:18:25.000 the production

00:18:25.880 and promotion

00:18:26.740 of cultural Marxism.

00:18:28.780 And I've always said

00:18:29.960 that beyond

00:18:30.560 the actual Chinese Communist Party,

00:18:33.060 the biggest and greatest threat

00:18:34.740 to Western society

00:18:36.400 is cultural Marxism.

00:18:37.800 And guess what?

00:18:38.580 I want my Pope

00:18:39.920 to be a force

00:18:41.480 against that completely.

00:18:44.420 And I don't want this idea

00:18:45.560 of, oh,

00:18:46.260 well, we need to be open

00:18:47.180 to all.

00:18:47.600 No, absolutely not.

00:18:49.300 Stand on tradition.

00:18:51.740 John, isn't that

00:18:52.600 what's bringing people

00:18:53.440 back to the church

00:18:54.180 to begin with

00:18:54.760 in this country?

00:18:56.120 It is.

00:18:57.000 I mean,

00:18:57.600 secular networks

00:18:58.720 have picked up

00:18:59.260 on this rise

00:18:59.920 of Catholicism

00:19:00.700 in the United States.

00:19:02.160 They've oftentimes

00:19:03.040 phrased it.

00:19:03.860 I think the Guardian

00:19:04.420 had an article,

00:19:05.640 Spectator,

00:19:06.560 in the last two weeks,

00:19:07.500 New York Post,

00:19:08.600 they call them

00:19:09.180 MAGA Catholics. 0.76

00:19:10.980 And I think that's also

00:19:11.860 in some ways

00:19:12.680 their attempt

00:19:14.580 to try to understand

00:19:15.340 this phenomenon

00:19:16.000 where you have

00:19:16.700 a religious demographic

00:19:17.720 in this country,

00:19:18.680 particularly young men

00:19:19.960 who have just

00:19:21.940 looked around

00:19:22.740 at the world around them

00:19:23.660 and seen

00:19:24.340 everything is changing.

00:19:25.840 Charlie Kirk

00:19:27.700 had a great point

00:19:28.380 on this.

00:19:28.840 He was in a group

00:19:29.660 text with a bunch

00:19:30.280 of Protestant pastors

00:19:31.040 and he just said,

00:19:32.420 like, guys,

00:19:33.180 young men are flocking

00:19:34.020 to the Catholic Church.

00:19:34.940 And he made that

00:19:36.160 observation

00:19:37.960 that it's because

00:19:39.220 these young men

00:19:40.500 are looking at the institution

00:19:41.400 of the Catholic Church

00:19:42.160 and realizing that

00:19:43.420 when the amount

00:19:44.960 of genders

00:19:45.500 is up for discussion,

00:19:47.240 things like that,

00:19:47.960 something so basic,

00:19:49.520 that you want to look

00:19:51.000 to a solid institution

00:19:53.080 that has not changed

00:19:55.140 its core teachings.

00:19:56.760 And they're finding that,

00:19:57.980 thanks be to God,

00:19:58.580 as a Catholic,

00:19:59.060 I say this,

00:19:59.800 in the Catholic Church.

00:20:01.020 So that's a good thing.

00:20:02.720 I mean,

00:20:02.900 one point,

00:20:03.500 Charlie,

00:20:03.880 or Jack,

00:20:04.440 I want to ask you about too

00:20:05.140 is,

00:20:05.740 did you see the report

00:20:06.680 that Chinese Cardinal

00:20:08.880 just came out,

00:20:09.560 I think,

00:20:09.660 the last couple days

00:20:10.280 and said that

00:20:11.280 Pope Leo

00:20:12.800 has actually made

00:20:13.600 several trips to China?

00:20:14.780 Now,

00:20:15.040 that could be insignificant.

00:20:16.340 I did see the reporting

00:20:17.140 on Steve Bannon

00:20:18.860 and it came out

00:20:20.760 through Liz Yure.

00:20:21.840 I haven't talked to them

00:20:22.820 outside of that,

00:20:24.560 even though,

00:20:24.960 obviously,

00:20:25.240 I do know those people.

00:20:26.900 And if it's true

00:20:28.540 that he's made trips to China,

00:20:29.760 I've made trips to China

00:20:30.880 as well.

00:20:31.980 I think that

00:20:33.000 this is something

00:20:33.740 that I would love to hear

00:20:35.040 I would absolutely love

00:20:36.540 to hear him

00:20:37.260 talk about publicly

00:20:38.480 and talk about

00:20:39.600 the issues

00:20:41.100 of being Catholic

00:20:42.260 in China

00:20:43.040 and what the government there,

00:20:45.320 I mean,

00:20:45.580 John,

00:20:46.420 we have a quick break

00:20:47.420 but I'll tell you more

00:20:48.160 about it afterwards.

00:20:49.600 When I went to go to church,

00:20:50.880 I used to have to show

00:20:51.420 my passport

00:20:51.960 to Chinese police officers

00:20:53.420 to prove that I was

00:20:54.720 an American citizen,

00:20:55.700 that I was not

00:20:56.160 a Chinese citizen

00:20:56.960 and they could write

00:20:58.120 a check mark down

00:21:00.000 of who was going

00:21:01.220 to church in Shanghai.

00:21:03.400 I want a Pope

00:21:04.440 that's actually

00:21:05.480 willing to fight back

00:21:06.980 against the CCP.

00:21:08.220 We'll be right back.

00:21:08.820 Quick break.

00:21:09.160 And Jack,

00:21:22.660 where is Jack?

00:21:24.760 Where is Jack?

00:21:27.120 Where is he?

00:21:28.340 Jack,

00:21:28.820 I want to see you.

00:21:31.980 Great job, Jack.

00:21:33.400 Thank you.

00:21:34.180 What a job you do.

00:21:35.600 You know,

00:21:35.820 we have an incredible thing.

00:21:36.780 We're always talking

00:21:37.560 about the fake news

00:21:38.560 and the bad,

00:21:39.280 but we have guys

00:21:40.300 and these are the guys

00:21:41.680 who should be getting

00:21:42.260 policies.

00:21:44.420 All right,

00:21:44.980 Jack,

00:21:45.160 so we're back

00:21:45.740 live human events daily.

00:21:48.640 We're on with John Yepp

00:21:49.820 of Catholics for Catholics.

00:21:50.640 We're talking about

00:21:51.580 Pope Leo,

00:21:53.000 the first American pope

00:21:54.500 on this Memorial Day.

00:21:56.160 John,

00:21:56.440 so we also saw

00:21:57.640 that,

00:21:58.220 you know,

00:21:58.780 that notwithstanding,

00:21:59.560 you know,

00:22:00.060 Pope Leo,

00:22:00.560 we've talked about

00:22:01.620 how we want him

00:22:02.480 to really take

00:22:03.660 a strong voice

00:22:05.860 towards the Chinese 0.64

00:22:07.340 Communist Party,

00:22:08.220 towards China directly.

00:22:09.940 We know

00:22:10.340 that the Trump administration

00:22:11.840 has made the centerpiece

00:22:13.800 of their foreign policy

00:22:15.100 and economic policy

00:22:16.620 confronting China.

00:22:18.760 J.D. Vance,

00:22:19.700 vice president,

00:22:20.660 Catholic convert,

00:22:21.920 he's gone over

00:22:22.580 just an incredible

00:22:23.700 and inadvertent,

00:22:25.820 almost really,

00:22:27.120 story arc

00:22:27.980 that we've seen here.

00:22:28.680 the last world leader

00:22:30.160 to meet with Pope Francis

00:22:32.400 before he passes on,

00:22:34.620 then J.D. Vance coming,

00:22:36.700 attending the inaugural mass

00:22:38.260 for Pope Leo

00:22:39.880 just a few weeks later

00:22:41.360 and then having this

00:22:42.680 huge sit-down meeting

00:22:44.420 with him

00:22:44.940 and our secretary of state,

00:22:46.700 also Catholic,

00:22:47.580 Marco Rubio.

00:22:49.040 John,

00:22:49.360 what do you make

00:22:50.260 of all of this

00:22:50.880 and have you ever really seen

00:22:52.300 the level of engagement

00:22:54.140 between a president

00:22:56.900 of the United States,

00:22:57.800 his cabinet,

00:22:58.680 and a pope,

00:23:01.500 a pontiff,

00:23:02.020 an American pontiff

00:23:02.900 like this

00:23:03.260 just presents

00:23:03.880 an incredible new opportunity.

00:23:05.720 It's an opportunity.

00:23:06.940 This is almost reminiscent

00:23:08.040 of the 1980s

00:23:09.000 when Ronald Reagan

00:23:10.140 basically established

00:23:11.320 a working relationship

00:23:12.560 with the Vatican.

00:23:13.200 It kind of existed

00:23:13.880 in some way,

00:23:15.280 shape,

00:23:15.460 or form

00:23:15.800 prior to Reagan's election,

00:23:17.800 but it was during

00:23:18.740 his two terms

00:23:19.580 that the evil empire speech

00:23:21.760 was said,

00:23:23.800 given,

00:23:24.160 and then Trump

00:23:25.200 or Reagan

00:23:26.820 began that

00:23:27.660 incredible relationship

00:23:28.780 with St. John Paul II,

00:23:30.040 which ultimately

00:23:30.820 led to the downfall,

00:23:32.820 as you said,

00:23:33.760 of the Soviet empire.

00:23:35.420 Could we maybe

00:23:36.500 be seeing

00:23:37.340 something similar

00:23:38.260 that happens

00:23:38.800 with the Chinese Communist Party

00:23:40.020 that they might work together?

00:23:42.200 That will be,

00:23:42.760 you know,

00:23:42.900 time will tell,

00:23:43.680 but I think

00:23:44.000 that first meeting

00:23:45.060 that,

00:23:45.600 you know,

00:23:45.760 he made time for him

00:23:46.900 right after the inaugural mass

00:23:49.140 to meet in person.

00:23:50.560 They, of course,

00:23:51.240 exchanged greetings

00:23:52.260 there in St. Peter's,

00:23:53.800 and then they met

00:23:54.380 the day afterwards.

00:23:55.500 Bodes very,

00:23:56.320 very well

00:23:56.760 for what we could do

00:23:58.900 from this vantage point

00:24:01.120 in this country

00:24:01.660 with the Pope.

00:24:06.240 And that's something

00:24:07.120 where,

00:24:07.500 like,

00:24:07.740 I mean,

00:24:08.080 I remember,

00:24:09.100 you know,

00:24:09.720 John Paul II

00:24:10.320 was sort of my first Pope

00:24:11.660 quote-unquote

00:24:12.180 growing up,

00:24:12.900 that that was my vision

00:24:14.100 of what a Pope could be.

00:24:15.760 And as a guy

00:24:16.820 who is Polish,

00:24:18.540 what he meant

00:24:20.120 for the Polish people

00:24:21.380 and even today

00:24:22.560 what he means

00:24:23.120 for the Polish people

00:24:23.900 when you go to Poland

00:24:25.060 you see statues

00:24:26.600 of John Paul II

00:24:27.880 everywhere.

00:24:29.060 You see photographs,

00:24:30.800 icons,

00:24:32.300 just,

00:24:32.600 you know,

00:24:32.920 you see everything's named

00:24:34.280 John Paul II this,

00:24:35.680 John Paul II that,

00:24:37.240 and,

00:24:37.780 you know,

00:24:38.340 streets and towns

00:24:39.880 and children,

00:24:41.340 you know,

00:24:42.080 it's just everywhere.

00:24:43.220 It's just literally everywhere.

00:24:44.960 And so,

00:24:45.660 the idea was

00:24:46.840 it wasn't just that

00:24:48.320 he was so great

00:24:49.360 in terms of his faith

00:24:50.420 and it wasn't just

00:24:51.380 that he was so great

00:24:52.100 in terms of his charisma

00:24:53.100 which he did have

00:24:54.380 in droves,

00:24:55.380 it was the fact

00:24:56.100 that he was able

00:24:57.280 to go to his homeland 0.58

00:24:58.740 which was under

00:25:00.300 communist occupation

00:25:01.960 occupied by

00:25:03.680 a godless

00:25:05.300 atheist regime 0.86

00:25:06.860 emanating out

00:25:07.600 of the Soviet Union

00:25:08.580 and be that force

00:25:10.740 for good

00:25:11.560 to break

00:25:12.520 the shackles

00:25:13.660 of godless communism

00:25:15.100 and return

00:25:16.000 the people

00:25:17.000 to God.

00:25:18.480 And now,

00:25:18.900 of course,

00:25:19.260 you know,

00:25:19.400 Pope Leo,

00:25:19.880 he's American,

00:25:20.960 he's not,

00:25:21.480 you know,

00:25:21.960 he's not from China

00:25:22.600 but,

00:25:22.920 you know,

00:25:23.060 what's interesting,

00:25:24.200 what's interesting,

00:25:24.980 John,

00:25:25.320 is perhaps we could

00:25:26.640 use some of that

00:25:27.340 in America.

00:25:28.300 Perhaps we could

00:25:29.160 use an America 0.86

00:25:30.260 that returns

00:25:31.400 to God.

00:25:32.580 John,

00:25:32.780 do you think

00:25:33.100 that's something

00:25:33.700 that we could

00:25:34.520 actually use

00:25:35.080 in America?

00:25:35.740 Are we the ones

00:25:36.620 that have actually

00:25:37.460 been captured

00:25:38.160 and taken over

00:25:39.000 by a godless 0.82

00:25:40.120 atheist

00:25:40.640 secular regime?

00:25:41.880 They tried

00:25:43.680 in many ways

00:25:44.840 and they almost

00:25:45.300 did so

00:25:45.760 in the last election

00:25:46.800 but,

00:25:47.380 you know,

00:25:47.700 58,

00:25:48.260 40 percent,

00:25:48.940 the largest

00:25:49.520 Catholic landslide 0.54

00:25:50.760 in U.S.

00:25:51.860 election history.

00:25:53.120 So we the people,

00:25:54.160 we the Catholic people,

00:25:54.880 you know,

00:25:55.840 we the faithful people,

00:25:57.100 better said,

00:25:57.920 rose up

00:25:58.680 and understood

00:25:59.860 what was at stake

00:26:00.800 and we fought back.

00:26:02.320 So we pushed,

00:26:02.880 you know,

00:26:03.460 a temporary win.

00:26:04.540 I mean,

00:26:04.680 the battle's just beginning

00:26:05.400 but I do see that.

00:26:06.860 I see because

00:26:08.740 when you start

00:26:09.300 to lose something

00:26:09.920 that you love,

00:26:11.120 you pursue it

00:26:12.280 with even greater

00:26:12.960 fervor and zeal.

00:26:14.140 But John,

00:26:14.400 I mean,

00:26:14.740 I guess just to,

00:26:16.760 just to,

00:26:17.240 just to,

00:26:17.840 you know,

00:26:18.720 sort of elucidate

00:26:19.320 my point there,

00:26:20.520 what I mean is

00:26:21.240 it's not just

00:26:21.940 the government.

00:26:23.020 It's,

00:26:23.480 it was every institution

00:26:24.720 and so many institutions

00:26:26.500 even down to

00:26:27.620 the lower levels now.

00:26:29.120 You see it in school boards.

00:26:30.800 Obviously,

00:26:31.200 we can't have prayer

00:26:32.000 in churches

00:26:32.560 or excuse me,

00:26:33.480 prayer in schools anymore.

00:26:34.860 God has just been driven

00:26:36.000 from the public square

00:26:37.620 and so when,

00:26:38.840 when I think of

00:26:39.420 John,

00:26:39.740 John Paul II,

00:26:40.860 that first mass

00:26:41.720 that he gave

00:26:42.400 in Poland,

00:26:43.800 what was everyone chanting?

00:26:44.860 They were saying,

00:26:45.340 we want God.

00:26:47.020 We want God.

00:26:48.180 And I look at

00:26:48.900 the United States

00:26:49.560 of America today

00:26:50.580 and I think

00:26:51.440 that's what's missing.

00:26:52.980 That's the biggest thing

00:26:54.220 that everyone

00:26:55.040 is yearning for

00:26:56.640 is,

00:26:57.200 is crying out for

00:26:59.320 saying,

00:26:59.800 we're missing meaning.

00:27:01.520 We have all the information

00:27:03.180 in the world

00:27:03.780 through social media.

00:27:05.360 We have connection.

00:27:06.580 We have access

00:27:08.120 to databases.

00:27:09.160 We have AI.

00:27:10.400 And as great as AI is

00:27:12.280 and as incredible

00:27:13.800 and it can search everything,

00:27:15.120 it can't give you meaning.

00:27:16.220 It can't provide meaning for you.

00:27:18.520 And so everyone's trying

00:27:19.380 to make sense

00:27:19.940 and I think that's why

00:27:20.880 Gen Z,

00:27:21.940 these Zoomers, 1.00

00:27:22.500 they're saying,

00:27:23.200 you know,

00:27:23.420 these institutions

00:27:24.100 don't work for us.

00:27:25.620 What does have meaning?

00:27:27.980 And it's God.

00:27:28.640 It's always been

00:27:30.220 the sacred,

00:27:31.380 the divine,

00:27:32.340 and that's why

00:27:33.060 they want

00:27:33.600 the connection

00:27:34.400 to source

00:27:35.680 through traditional

00:27:37.440 practices

00:27:38.360 of Christianity

00:27:40.040 that have always been

00:27:42.120 and really,

00:27:43.180 in many cases,

00:27:44.100 unchanging

00:27:45.100 since the days

00:27:46.300 of the early church.

00:27:47.700 That's what Pope,

00:27:48.720 I mean,

00:27:48.900 could you imagine

00:27:49.560 if Pope Leo

00:27:50.140 comes out

00:27:50.700 to the United States

00:27:51.640 and starts talking like that?

00:27:53.660 That would be phenomenal

00:27:54.760 and I agree with you,

00:27:56.120 Jack,

00:27:56.460 that our institutions

00:27:57.540 have been infiltrated,

00:27:59.480 right?

00:27:59.620 Even the very structure

00:28:01.680 of the United States,

00:28:02.880 the Catholic Church,

00:28:03.860 the United States Conference

00:28:04.620 of Catholic Bishops,

00:28:05.960 it became just

00:28:07.820 in many ways

00:28:08.660 an operating arm

00:28:10.820 of the Biden administration.

00:28:12.800 It was cut,

00:28:13.520 50% of their funds

00:28:14.640 were coming from

00:28:15.160 federal grants,

00:28:15.960 right?

00:28:16.120 Which kind of just

00:28:16.680 laser focused their minds

00:28:18.520 on receiving those grants

00:28:19.760 and then helping

00:28:20.440 with the illegal invasion

00:28:21.700 at the southern border.

00:28:22.700 When you get that kind

00:28:23.940 of distraction,

00:28:25.680 monetary distraction,

00:28:27.480 that's an infiltration

00:28:28.620 of a system

00:28:29.400 which is designed

00:28:30.680 to be like

00:28:31.600 the Founding Fathers

00:28:32.260 saw it

00:28:32.940 as indispensable support

00:28:34.720 for America,

00:28:35.860 our faith,

00:28:36.480 the religion,

00:28:37.280 the churches,

00:28:37.820 right?

00:28:38.300 So Pope Leo,

00:28:39.620 could he have a role

00:28:40.420 in freeing the church

00:28:41.880 back up

00:28:42.520 so that she can be

00:28:43.560 just a voice

00:28:45.060 in the public square again

00:28:45.960 like John Paul II?

00:28:47.220 I think so.

00:28:50.420 And that'd be so incredible.

00:28:51.780 Think about it.

00:28:52.360 A John Paul II

00:28:53.500 for America.

00:28:55.820 He wore the John Paul II

00:28:56.760 vestment.

00:28:57.200 He saw that

00:28:57.540 on the inaugural mass.

00:28:58.260 That's pretty cool.

00:28:59.380 The JP2's 0.99

00:29:00.580 like vestments

00:29:01.400 that he wore

00:29:02.120 as Pope.

00:29:02.820 The vestment

00:29:03.420 and the staff

00:29:05.340 as well.

00:29:06.580 Yeah,

00:29:06.980 good point.

00:29:07.520 Exactly.

00:29:08.240 The staff.

00:29:09.540 And so

00:29:10.160 he's clearly

00:29:11.200 making these references

00:29:12.260 and he's making

00:29:13.000 these symbolic references

00:29:14.120 and these aesthetic references

00:29:15.440 which I love

00:29:16.780 but you know

00:29:17.820 I still have to say though

00:29:19.540 and just as a guy

00:29:20.860 who's you know

00:29:21.620 look it's my job

00:29:22.640 to be skeptical.

00:29:23.440 It's kind of

00:29:23.720 what we do around here

00:29:24.560 and as someone

00:29:26.260 who lived

00:29:26.840 through the 12

00:29:27.980 tumultuous years

00:29:29.500 of Pope Francis

00:29:30.620 you know

00:29:31.560 we're still waiting

00:29:32.960 to see

00:29:33.680 you know

00:29:34.380 I like what I see

00:29:35.380 so far

00:29:36.000 but I want to see

00:29:37.600 some more

00:29:38.320 confirmation

00:29:39.340 of this

00:29:41.040 like just

00:29:41.440 okay that's great

00:29:42.160 you know

00:29:42.380 you said a prayer

00:29:42.900 in Latin

00:29:43.340 and you know

00:29:44.460 my children can do that

00:29:45.620 right?

00:29:46.080 You know

00:29:46.340 I want to see

00:29:47.520 some actual brass tacks

00:29:48.840 Bishop Strickland

00:29:50.220 you know

00:29:50.780 are you going to do right

00:29:52.000 by Bishop Strickland

00:29:52.860 is Father Pavone

00:29:54.300 who I saw

00:29:54.780 that he is

00:29:55.740 now petitioning

00:29:56.920 to be

00:29:57.480 to be reinstated

00:29:59.940 to the priesthood

00:30:01.180 which is really

00:30:01.760 just a guy

00:30:02.260 who had a disagreement

00:30:03.000 with his bishop

00:30:03.820 I mean

00:30:04.200 that was something

00:30:04.740 so trivial

00:30:05.500 it should not have

00:30:06.080 been

00:30:06.220 he never

00:30:06.620 by the way

00:30:07.240 never attacked Rome

00:30:08.160 never attacked Pope Francis

00:30:09.300 I thought they went

00:30:10.040 way too hard

00:30:11.540 came down way too hard

00:30:13.060 on Father Pavone

00:30:13.960 and

00:30:15.060 just a number

00:30:16.300 of things like that

00:30:17.380 John

00:30:17.980 as well as

00:30:19.040 that whole thing

00:30:20.640 that whole concept

00:30:21.480 like what's he going

00:30:22.400 to do there

00:30:22.860 I mean that's a

00:30:23.380 you're spot on

00:30:25.240 like to be

00:30:25.900 we're cautious

00:30:26.620 we're not like

00:30:27.280 canonizing the guy

00:30:28.020 but there are

00:30:29.280 concrete things

00:30:29.820 that need to be

00:30:30.560 implemented right away

00:30:32.020 the synodal church

00:30:33.340 idea for those

00:30:34.180 who don't

00:30:34.400 are familiar with it

00:30:35.540 this is Pope Francis

00:30:36.420 idea of creating

00:30:38.080 a church

00:30:38.860 which is

00:30:39.400 yes in dialogue

00:30:41.020 with the common people

00:30:43.100 but it creates

00:30:44.060 it's almost

00:30:45.200 it's Hegelian

00:30:47.540 and it's idea

00:30:48.660 that the truth

00:30:49.780 is constantly

00:30:50.520 changing

00:30:51.040 we're never

00:30:51.580 really going to know

00:30:52.400 what we stand

00:30:53.040 on as firm

00:30:53.720 he wanted a

00:30:55.160 permanent synodal church

00:30:56.300 where we're

00:30:56.660 constantly reassessing

00:30:58.080 foundational

00:30:59.240 truths

00:31:00.400 of our church

00:31:01.680 even western

00:31:02.380 civilization

00:31:02.800 so if

00:31:04.020 how Pope Leo

00:31:05.000 approaches that

00:31:05.800 topic

00:31:06.200 we'll be telling

00:31:06.900 no I think

00:31:09.760 that's exactly

00:31:10.240 right

00:31:10.540 and so

00:31:11.060 you know

00:31:11.880 we need

00:31:12.920 as Americans

00:31:14.420 to remember

00:31:15.180 that these are

00:31:16.040 things that our

00:31:16.680 founding fathers

00:31:17.340 actually believed

00:31:18.660 our founding fathers

00:31:19.780 actually and literally

00:31:21.180 believed that America

00:31:22.620 and at the time

00:31:23.920 they say

00:31:24.260 well what about

00:31:24.740 pluralism

00:31:25.360 what about

00:31:25.980 you know

00:31:26.640 what about

00:31:27.140 you know

00:31:27.780 religious freedom

00:31:28.840 the founders

00:31:30.180 always envisioned

00:31:31.380 America

00:31:31.960 and America

00:31:32.700 always has been

00:31:33.800 from the time

00:31:34.440 of the founding

00:31:34.960 and is today

00:31:35.680 a Christian

00:31:36.380 majority nation

00:31:37.680 it just truly is

00:31:39.040 and so the idea

00:31:39.980 of non-establishment

00:31:41.180 of religion

00:31:41.660 in this country

00:31:42.340 was not a

00:31:43.560 it was not a

00:31:44.540 ban on religion 0.98

00:31:45.780 the idea

00:31:46.380 the idea

00:31:46.400 was there

00:31:46.920 would be

00:31:47.760 no church

00:31:48.380 of America

00:31:49.420 the way

00:31:50.220 that the

00:31:50.600 Anglican church

00:31:51.780 is the church

00:31:52.700 of England

00:31:54.100 where the king

00:31:54.840 sort of replaces

00:31:56.160 the pope

00:31:56.940 and becomes

00:31:57.940 the leader

00:31:58.360 of the church

00:31:58.960 as well as

00:31:59.520 the leader

00:31:59.860 of the country

00:32:00.500 that America

00:32:01.200 was never

00:32:01.660 going to do

00:32:02.400 that

00:32:02.660 but this idea

00:32:03.740 that we would

00:32:04.600 ban religion 1.00

00:32:05.520 that we would

00:32:06.060 ban Christianity 1.00

00:32:07.000 John

00:32:07.300 that has nothing

00:32:08.220 to do with

00:32:08.980 our country's

00:32:09.640 founding at all

00:32:10.560 in fact

00:32:10.920 the founders

00:32:11.700 I believe

00:32:12.440 would be

00:32:12.960 abhorrent

00:32:13.300 did you know

00:32:13.820 and I pulled

00:32:14.980 this up

00:32:15.640 you know

00:32:15.880 I was arguing

00:32:16.280 with some

00:32:16.540 some lib

00:32:17.940 the other day

00:32:18.500 and I pulled

00:32:19.420 it up

00:32:19.680 and I said

00:32:19.960 Thomas Jefferson

00:32:21.120 himself

00:32:21.820 Mr. Separation

00:32:23.000 of Church and State

00:32:23.680 they always say

00:32:24.160 he used to attend

00:32:25.760 Christian services

00:32:27.040 that were held

00:32:28.100 every single weekend

00:32:29.260 in the well

00:32:30.940 of the House

00:32:31.680 of Representatives

00:32:32.520 in the U.S. Capitol

00:32:33.660 building

00:32:34.120 that's the way

00:32:35.520 that our country

00:32:36.420 used to be

00:32:37.020 and that's just

00:32:37.760 American history

00:32:38.520 and John

00:32:39.160 they hate it

00:32:39.780 they really hate it

00:32:40.660 don't they

00:32:41.040 they absolutely hate it

00:32:42.780 I mean

00:32:43.080 George Washington

00:32:44.060 himself gave

00:32:44.820 a sizable donation

00:32:46.260 to one of the first

00:32:47.080 Catholic churches

00:32:47.740 ever in the United States

00:32:48.860 in Virginia

00:32:49.360 March 17th

00:32:50.300 actually

00:32:50.520 Patrick's Day

00:32:51.160 so you know

00:32:52.140 he and he had

00:32:53.260 images of

00:32:54.240 the Blessed Mother

00:32:55.000 and St. John

00:32:55.680 the Apostle

00:32:56.500 in Mount Vernon

00:32:57.280 they're still there

00:32:57.780 to this day

00:32:58.340 so obviously

00:32:59.340 the founding fathers

00:32:59.960 had such respect

00:33:01.100 for religion

00:33:01.580 and going back

00:33:02.800 even to the way

00:33:03.840 the Catholic Church

00:33:04.820 viewed America

00:33:05.700 early early on

00:33:06.740 don't forget

00:33:07.600 Benjamin Franklin's

00:33:08.500 visit to France

00:33:09.320 1790s

00:33:10.800 he met with

00:33:11.880 the ambassador

00:33:12.460 to France

00:33:13.380 who also served

00:33:14.020 as the ambassador

00:33:14.680 to the United States

00:33:15.580 and the ambassador

00:33:17.040 on orders from the Pope

00:33:18.680 basically asked

00:33:19.300 Benjamin Franklin

00:33:19.880 hey

00:33:20.200 are you okay

00:33:21.460 with these bishops

00:33:22.660 we're going to name

00:33:23.140 John Carroll

00:33:23.720 as bishop

00:33:24.140 in the United States

00:33:24.860 and Benjamin Franklin's

00:33:26.580 response was

00:33:27.360 here in America

00:33:29.960 we respect

00:33:31.500 your freedom

00:33:32.160 of religion

00:33:32.660 okay

00:33:33.120 you can choose

00:33:33.800 whoever you want to

00:33:34.660 okay

00:33:35.160 which is interesting

00:33:36.720 juxtapose that

00:33:37.620 250 years later

00:33:38.780 with what the

00:33:39.580 Chinese Communist Party

00:33:40.420 is doing

00:33:40.800 they are the ones

00:33:41.720 naming bishops

00:33:42.660 okay

00:33:43.120 and so it's

00:33:44.480 it's an interesting

00:33:45.320 interplay

00:33:45.800 we obviously know

00:33:46.600 that our country

00:33:47.460 is you know

00:33:48.440 as the Supreme Court

00:33:49.660 one of the most

00:33:50.480 over underlooked

00:33:51.740 Supreme Court decisions

00:33:52.920 is the 1892 decision

00:33:54.740 I'm forgetting the name

00:33:55.580 of it

00:33:55.860 where they came out

00:33:57.080 SCOTUS came out

00:33:57.760 and said

00:33:58.040 this is a Christian nation

00:34:00.620 folks

00:34:03.400 we need to remember

00:34:04.460 that

00:34:04.860 we need to remember

00:34:06.100 our history

00:34:07.500 and America's

00:34:08.580 unique role

00:34:09.560 in this world

00:34:11.020 today

00:34:11.760 on Memorial Day

00:34:13.020 we'll be right back

00:34:13.740 Jack is a great guy

00:34:26.500 he's written a fantastic book

00:34:28.140 everybody's talking about it

00:34:29.480 go get it

00:34:30.080 and he's been my friend

00:34:31.580 right from the beginning

00:34:32.500 of this whole beautiful event

00:34:34.120 and we're going to turn it around

00:34:35.940 and make our country

00:34:36.860 pray to you

00:34:37.380 amen

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00:35:35.560 Alright Jack Posobiec

00:35:36.760 here we are

00:35:37.120 back

00:35:37.660 final segment

00:35:38.540 on this

00:35:39.440 Memorial Day

00:35:40.500 you're live

00:35:41.360 on Real America's

00:35:42.540 Voice

00:35:42.980 the Salem

00:35:43.700 Radio Network

00:35:44.720 we're on with

00:35:45.460 John Yepp

00:35:46.080 the CEO

00:35:46.900 of Catholics for Catholics 0.54

00:35:48.140 and we're talking about

00:35:49.160 how in many ways

00:35:50.480 this new American Pope

00:35:51.900 and we're hoping

00:35:53.680 and we're praying

00:35:54.580 in fact

00:35:54.980 we're praying

00:35:55.540 that the new American Pope

00:35:57.120 can lead

00:35:58.180 to a revitalization

00:35:59.820 and a reawakening

00:36:01.020 that's really

00:36:01.840 already going on

00:36:02.740 but perhaps

00:36:03.740 even fan

00:36:05.200 the flames

00:36:05.920 of this fire

00:36:07.380 and passion

00:36:08.080 for the Lord

00:36:09.060 and a reminder

00:36:10.120 that America

00:36:11.080 has always had

00:36:12.280 Christianity

00:36:12.800 at its heart

00:36:14.740 and John

00:36:15.920 you know

00:36:16.300 it's Memorial Day

00:36:17.440 as we talk about this

00:36:18.740 and when I look back

00:36:20.240 at the

00:36:21.020 you know

00:36:21.600 you think about

00:36:22.080 the America's

00:36:22.880 war history

00:36:23.700 or military history

00:36:25.000 Lexington and Concord

00:36:27.220 the Revolutionary

00:36:28.000 War

00:36:28.640 the Civil War

00:36:29.900 the War of 1812

00:36:31.400 the country

00:36:32.940 that those people

00:36:33.720 were fighting for

00:36:34.360 even all the way up

00:36:35.080 through World War I

00:36:35.700 World War II

00:36:36.140 the boys of Normandy

00:36:37.060 were not fighting

00:36:38.060 for a godless

00:36:39.100 atheist

00:36:39.640 cultural

00:36:40.280 Marxist

00:36:41.120 moral

00:36:41.560 relativistic

00:36:42.520 you know

00:36:43.800 non-nation state

00:36:45.120 universal

00:36:45.760 liberal

00:36:46.220 no

00:36:46.640 they were fighting

00:36:48.100 for the America

00:36:49.780 with the American values

00:36:51.220 rooted in

00:36:52.500 the Holy Bible

00:36:54.160 that's what they were

00:36:55.340 fighting for

00:36:56.020 that's what they wanted

00:36:57.220 that's what they

00:36:58.080 died for

00:36:58.700 that's the country

00:36:59.660 as it's always

00:37:00.500 been constituted

00:37:01.740 and I just hope

00:37:02.880 and pray

00:37:03.280 that this new

00:37:04.120 American Pope

00:37:04.960 can play a role

00:37:06.080 in that

00:37:06.560 if you doubt

00:37:08.640 what Jack just said

00:37:09.720 that they were

00:37:10.360 fighting for the

00:37:11.040 ideals of

00:37:11.700 from the Bible

00:37:12.920 as a Christian nation

00:37:14.080 just go look at

00:37:15.000 Arlington Seminary

00:37:15.820 there's a reason

00:37:16.600 that what

00:37:16.880 90% of the

00:37:17.820 headstones

00:37:18.260 what are they

00:37:18.900 they're crosses

00:37:20.080 okay

00:37:20.820 these men

00:37:21.580 understood

00:37:21.920 what it was about

00:37:24.480 right

00:37:24.760 I think it's also

00:37:26.180 fitting

00:37:26.960 I know

00:37:27.860 this is more

00:37:28.600 this would be

00:37:29.700 better for Veterans Day

00:37:31.020 but the fact that

00:37:32.180 Pope Leo

00:37:32.900 was

00:37:34.080 elected Pope

00:37:35.740 on the 80th anniversary

00:37:36.940 of Victory in Europe Day

00:37:38.800 and his own dad

00:37:40.140 was a World War II

00:37:41.920 veteran

00:37:42.220 right

00:37:42.640 landed at D-Day

00:37:43.640 was actually

00:37:44.400 manned a

00:37:45.180 landing craft

00:37:46.840 right

00:37:47.120 so

00:37:47.660 it's just significant

00:37:48.820 that you know

00:37:49.640 we've kind of

00:37:50.320 this beautiful

00:37:51.300 amazing country

00:37:51.980 that as we celebrate

00:37:52.700 Memorial Day

00:37:53.280 has given

00:37:53.880 not only these

00:37:54.840 incredible leaders

00:37:55.500 Eddie Vance

00:37:55.960 Marco Rubio

00:37:56.560 that are on the

00:37:57.660 front lines for us

00:37:58.940 but our meeting now

00:38:00.000 with the first ever

00:38:00.600 American born Pope

00:38:01.540 again juries out

00:38:02.640 on how his

00:38:03.160 pontificate will be

00:38:03.980 but for the moment

00:38:04.660 we'll take you know

00:38:05.380 take the good things

00:38:06.440 that we can

00:38:06.920 from what this could be

00:38:08.080 and it's

00:38:10.960 it's so

00:38:11.700 incredible

00:38:12.480 to sit here and say

00:38:13.980 and look

00:38:14.720 there's all the reasons

00:38:15.540 we've talked about this

00:38:16.520 and I've been on

00:38:16.980 War Room

00:38:17.360 with Steve Bannon

00:38:18.060 and Ben Harnwell

00:38:19.000 and everyone else

00:38:19.840 and were there

00:38:20.580 financial reasons

00:38:21.540 for picking an

00:38:22.180 American Pope

00:38:22.880 of course

00:38:23.780 were there

00:38:24.300 economic reasons

00:38:25.180 of course

00:38:25.780 were there

00:38:26.200 political reasons

00:38:27.500 of course

00:38:28.380 and the media

00:38:28.840 is making much

00:38:29.720 you know

00:38:30.460 much hay

00:38:31.040 of what I had

00:38:31.560 to say about that

00:38:32.360 on the day

00:38:33.500 of his election

00:38:34.480 and I was

00:38:34.920 sort of

00:38:35.500 I was analyzing

00:38:36.460 you know

00:38:36.940 I have people

00:38:37.520 say oh

00:38:37.820 Posobiec is criticizing

00:38:38.820 I'm analyzing

00:38:39.760 okay

00:38:40.120 I'm analyzing

00:38:40.900 the situation

00:38:41.720 fair analysis

00:38:42.300 man

00:38:42.600 explaining

00:38:43.140 what I think

00:38:45.920 went down

00:38:46.620 in the conclave

00:38:47.600 that was off

00:38:48.680 the top

00:38:48.880 of my head

00:38:49.280 now we're

00:38:49.660 getting more

00:38:50.040 information out

00:38:50.820 it actually

00:38:51.580 lines up

00:38:52.180 quite closely

00:38:53.540 with what

00:38:53.960 some of the

00:38:54.400 things I was

00:38:54.800 talking about

00:38:55.180 I was really

00:38:55.740 pounding on

00:38:56.300 that CCP deal

00:38:57.280 turns out

00:38:57.960 that was a

00:38:58.380 huge part

00:38:59.040 of this

00:38:59.340 as well

00:38:59.820 but John

00:39:00.760 I think

00:39:02.480 this is the

00:39:02.900 hope

00:39:03.080 this is the

00:39:03.440 real hope

00:39:03.780 and not just

00:39:04.140 by the way

00:39:04.520 of the United

00:39:04.920 States

00:39:05.180 but the whole

00:39:05.540 world

00:39:05.840 the whole

00:39:06.660 world

00:39:07.020 it's

00:39:07.720 we

00:39:08.020 as

00:39:08.620 Christians

00:39:09.400 as Catholics

00:39:10.340 we want

00:39:11.320 the world

00:39:12.000 to turn

00:39:12.860 to Christ

00:39:14.440 that is

00:39:15.540 the goal

00:39:16.340 and I believe

00:39:17.000 it was

00:39:17.700 the former

00:39:18.960 Pope Leo

00:39:19.600 Pope Leo

00:39:20.100 the 13th

00:39:21.360 who said

00:39:22.140 that if you

00:39:22.900 believe all

00:39:23.620 religions are 1.00

00:39:24.300 the same

00:39:24.800 then that's

00:39:25.260 the same

00:39:25.620 thing as

00:39:26.240 atheism

00:39:26.840 he did say

00:39:28.760 that that was

00:39:29.180 a formal

00:39:29.520 document

00:39:29.880 the Abu 0.99

00:39:30.320 Dhabi 0.96

00:39:30.700 document

00:39:31.140 2019

00:39:31.780 you can argue

00:39:33.140 all you want

00:39:33.540 about Francis

00:39:34.040 pontificate

00:39:34.620 but the fact

00:39:35.120 of the matter

00:39:35.420 is he put

00:39:36.300 his name

00:39:36.840 to a document

00:39:38.340 like you said

00:39:38.820 which said

00:39:39.240 that God

00:39:39.880 wills the

00:39:40.420 plurality

00:39:40.880 of all

00:39:41.100 religion

00:39:41.460 no he

00:39:42.220 doesn't

00:39:42.880 okay

00:39:43.180 Jesus Christ

00:39:44.200 came

00:39:44.620 for one

00:39:46.120 specific

00:39:46.540 to show

00:39:46.880 one path

00:39:47.380 to heaven

00:39:47.740 right

00:39:47.980 so I

00:39:48.780 think

00:39:49.040 this is

00:39:49.940 the moment

00:39:50.220 as an

00:39:50.740 American

00:39:51.160 even if

00:39:52.020 you're

00:39:52.140 not

00:39:52.340 Catholic

00:39:52.820 I think

00:39:53.720 you should

00:39:53.980 take great

00:39:54.500 pride

00:39:55.040 in what

00:39:55.960 our country

00:39:56.500 is

00:39:56.780 the financials

00:39:57.420 you brought

00:39:57.720 that up

00:39:58.040 it's a fair

00:39:58.700 analysis

00:39:59.080 because here's

00:39:59.760 the reality

00:40:00.340 America

00:40:01.340 funds

00:40:02.300 most of

00:40:03.380 the Vatican

00:40:03.940 okay

00:40:04.620 our

00:40:05.300 economy

00:40:06.540 our

00:40:06.800 prosperous

00:40:07.600 nation

00:40:08.080 that God

00:40:08.640 has given

00:40:09.080 us

00:40:09.460 we've

00:40:10.180 one of the

00:40:10.780 most generous

00:40:11.160 nations in the

00:40:11.740 world

00:40:11.960 and we've

00:40:12.320 in turn

00:40:12.620 given it

00:40:12.980 back to

00:40:13.240 the Vatican

00:40:13.540 we pulled

00:40:14.500 back the

00:40:14.980 past 12

00:40:15.460 years

00:40:15.800 because we

00:40:16.560 saw this

00:40:17.040 quasi-communist

00:40:18.740 leader

00:40:19.360 changing what

00:40:21.160 we believe

00:40:21.600 is Catholic

00:40:21.960 for centuries

00:40:22.800 and what

00:40:23.180 we need to

00:40:23.720 do

00:40:23.860 is remember

00:40:24.820 that America

00:40:25.740 is a gift

00:40:28.300 from God

00:40:29.000 a blessing

00:40:29.640 from God

00:40:30.280 and we

00:40:30.940 should create

00:40:31.800 a country

00:40:32.280 that's worthy

00:40:33.340 of God

00:40:34.400 John where

00:40:34.860 can people

00:40:35.140 go to follow

00:40:35.640 you and get

00:40:35.940 more information

00:40:36.380 about Catholics

00:40:36.880 for Catholics

00:40:37.240 you can go

00:40:38.300 to cforc.com

00:40:40.060 Catholics for Catholics

00:40:40.880 we are here

00:40:41.740 along with many

00:40:42.420 other groups

00:40:42.820 to be on the

00:40:43.600 front lines

00:40:44.200 of making this

00:40:44.880 country great

00:40:45.440 again

00:40:45.760 putting God

00:40:46.460 at the center

00:40:47.020 of it

00:40:47.320 Christ is 0.59

00:40:49.480 King

00:40:50.080 ladies and gentlemen

00:40:50.980 as always

00:40:51.600 you have my

00:40:52.000 permission

00:40:52.340 to lay a short

00:40:53.000 round

00:40:53.740 also

00:40:54.220 to love

00:40:56.300 to take

00:40:58.520 consent

00:40:58.960 to make this

00:40:59.560 event

00:40:59.820 good

00:41:00.460 as always

00:41:01.560 as always

00:41:01.780 as always

00:41:02.960 as always

00:41:05.120 as always

00:41:07.220 as always

00:41:07.340 as always

00:41:07.880 as always

00:41:08.580 as always

00:41:09.280 as always

00:41:09.400 as always

00:41:10.100 as always

00:41:10.380 as just

00:41:11.140 as always

00:41:11.520 as always

00:41:12.140 an峨

00:41:16.320 toosh

Human Events Daily with Jack Posobiec - May 26, 2025

Faith, Sacrifice and the American Pope： A Memorial Day Special

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