Human Events Daily with Jack Posobiec - May 26, 2025


Faith, Sacrifice and the American Pope: A Memorial Day Special


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Summary

The Catholic Church has a new leader, and for the first time in history, it s an American-born pope. This is not something that anyone saw coming. From a leaked FBI memo to the arrest of a British priest, the signs seem to point to a crackdown on Catholics in Britain. Father Sean Goff was charged for silently praying outside a closed abortion clinic last week. Meanwhile, a leaked memo from the FBI field office in Richmond, Virginia, warned that so-called "traditional Catholics" could be a threat to national security.


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00:00:30.000 This is what happens when the fourth turning meets fifth generation warfare.
00:00:40.760 A commentator, international social media sensation, and former Navy intelligence veteran.
00:00:47.380 This is Human Events with your host, Jack Posobiec.
00:00:50.500 Christ is here.
00:00:51.500 It appears as if we are now seeing white smoke spew from the actual chimney of the Sistine Chapel.
00:00:58.420 The Catholic Church has a new leader this morning, and for the first time in history, it's an American-born pope.
00:01:05.620 Absolute shocking pick.
00:01:07.780 The first American pope.
00:01:10.260 This is not something that anyone saw coming.
00:01:12.960 From a leaked FBI memo to the arrest of a British priest, the signs seem to point to a crackdown on Catholics in Britain.
00:01:21.040 Father Sean Goff was charged for silently praying outside of a closed abortion clinic last week.
00:01:26.860 Meantime, a leaked memo from the FBI field office in Richmond, Virginia, which the FBI has since retracted, warned that so-called radical traditional Catholics could be a threat to national security.
00:01:39.820 I think a lot of young people are just really lost, and some of us have found or reclaimed a meaningfulness through establishment, like through this institution of the church.
00:01:54.820 You know, when I was in college, some of the sense of doing Eucharistic adoration was seen as something like, oh man, that's really radical.
00:02:00.920 In the last 20 years, that pendulum has swung far to the right.
00:02:06.080 Interest in that, for example, the traditional Latin mass, that is a real thing.
00:02:09.600 We have it here on campus, and it's a pretty significant group.
00:02:12.500 The American church's influence is growing.
00:02:15.120 U.S. cardinals now taking on increased responsibilities, helping to shape and shift Catholicism for the next generation.
00:02:21.780 All right, Jack Posobiec, here we are back.
00:02:25.500 Human Events Daily.
00:02:27.500 Today is May 26, 2025, Anno Domini.
00:02:32.280 It's Memorial Day in America, and why does Memorial Day seem to matter now more?
00:02:40.540 So today is not Veterans Day, by the way, and I don't always talk about this, but I say that as a veteran.
00:02:48.460 Memorial Day is for people who didn't make it back.
00:02:52.080 So don't just say, oh, thank you for your service today to any veteran.
00:02:55.640 Remember, it's for people who didn't make it back.
00:02:58.080 But by the way, you know, it's okay to say that, too.
00:03:00.780 I'm not one of those guys who's like, you know, about it.
00:03:03.560 But let's be serious.
00:03:05.400 Why does Memorial Day, why do Veterans Day, why do these things seem to matter more?
00:03:10.100 Because we're moving into an era of populist conservatism now.
00:03:17.180 And what does this mean?
00:03:17.940 This means that we're moving away from this idea of the universal liberalist values that we had had prior, whether a neoconservatism or a neoliberalism.
00:03:27.940 This idea that our goal in the world, America's role in the world, is to spread these liberalist ideals throughout the Middle East and throughout China and throughout Russia and Iran and all these places.
00:03:40.800 That's not what our role is.
00:03:42.220 Our role as the American people is to stand on the shoulders of giants, of the people who came before us, our ancestors, who forged this nation, who forged Western civilization.
00:03:57.400 Through abject adversity, through challenges, through thunderstorms, through hurricanes, through tsunamis, many of whom, and today is for them, paid the ultimate price, the full measure of devotion to their nation.
00:04:21.560 When you look at the flag, when you look at the flag, when you teach your children about that, that's what we're talking about.
00:04:28.900 We're not talking about some abstract ideals.
00:04:32.080 America is not an idea.
00:04:35.080 America is a place.
00:04:36.700 America is our home.
00:04:39.380 America is a people.
00:04:41.040 America is a people.
00:04:41.600 And for all of those forces and influences, globalism, communism, whatever ism you want to call it, you cannot change that fact.
00:04:52.220 You want to.
00:04:53.180 You deeply want to, but you cannot.
00:04:55.840 And so, we're going to talk about traditionalism, the role of traditionalism, here on the show today, as we remember and reflect on the service and sacrifice of the so many who came before us.
00:05:10.240 to give us the ability to live in this country today
00:05:14.740 and to pass on in our legacy a great country for our children,
00:05:20.100 for our grandchildren, and every generation yet to come.
00:05:26.780 Nothing will stand in our way.
00:05:29.200 And our golden age has just begun.
00:05:31.580 This is Human Events with Jack Posobo.
00:05:33.320 Now it's time for everyone to understand what America First truly means.
00:05:37.800 Welcome to the Second American Revolution.
00:05:44.420 All right, ladies and gentlemen, here we are back.
00:05:47.480 Human Events daily this Memorial Day,
00:05:52.220 a day that we remember the service and the sacrifice of so many who came before us
00:05:57.840 and gave the last full measure of devotion.
00:06:02.000 And fighting for your country, fighting for your people, fighting for your God
00:06:07.880 is what we are called to do.
00:06:10.720 And as an American, as a guy who happens to be a veteran,
00:06:16.020 and a guy who is a Polish Catholic,
00:06:18.760 you know, I always say we're Polish, me and my brother and my family,
00:06:21.820 we pretty much only come in one flavor.
00:06:24.760 Poles are always like that.
00:06:26.780 You know, we just got back from this covering this conclave
00:06:30.800 over in Rome at the Vatican,
00:06:34.520 and we have the appearance now of a new Pope,
00:06:40.120 being Pope Leo XIV.
00:06:43.040 And one of our sponsors for that coverage
00:06:46.120 was the great organization Catholics for Catholics
00:06:50.020 that's really been fighting for our country,
00:06:55.340 fighting for President Trump,
00:06:56.680 fighting to bring back these traditional ideals,
00:07:00.380 not just into the church, but into our country,
00:07:03.300 and really challenging other Catholics to say,
00:07:06.360 wait a minute, guys, this isn't the country that we fought for.
00:07:10.360 This isn't the country that our forefathers fought for.
00:07:13.500 We need to be good Catholics and be stewards of this nation,
00:07:17.340 not just sit there and, you know,
00:07:19.920 do the things like Catholic charities were doing
00:07:22.300 and so many others,
00:07:23.180 helping individuals break the law
00:07:25.880 and come in as illegal aliens.
00:07:28.100 No, we need to be stewards of the nations,
00:07:30.640 as God called us.
00:07:31.880 So I wanted to bring on the CEO of Catholics for Catholics Now,
00:07:36.520 John Yap.
00:07:37.260 What's up, John?
00:07:39.080 Great to be here.
00:07:40.340 We're talking through Zoom,
00:07:42.420 but about a week ago, two weeks ago,
00:07:44.020 we were there in Rome together covering that historic event
00:07:47.480 for not only for the Catholic Church,
00:07:48.680 but for America,
00:07:49.500 having our first elected American Pope.
00:07:52.620 Here we are.
00:07:53.380 John, have you,
00:07:54.400 now, had you ever been to a conclave before?
00:07:56.320 Was that your first conclave as well?
00:07:58.600 I was there when Francis was elected.
00:08:00.760 Okay, I was a seminarian,
00:08:01.740 so I was wearing black and a Roman collar.
00:08:03.760 Wow.
00:08:04.800 And spending time there studying
00:08:06.140 at the Regina Apostolorum in Rome.
00:08:08.760 And we got the notification,
00:08:11.880 just like you had with Cardinal Prevost.
00:08:15.160 And we all ran down to the square.
00:08:16.620 I think I ran about two miles
00:08:17.820 and hitchhiked the rest of the way
00:08:19.480 and was there the moment when Pope Francis came out.
00:08:22.740 So not my first time,
00:08:25.180 but truly never gets old.
00:08:28.340 What would you say,
00:08:29.760 and just my own curiosity,
00:08:31.500 was there much difference between the two?
00:08:34.700 Was there a sense of difference?
00:08:37.400 I mean, obviously, with Benedict,
00:08:39.600 you know, being alive,
00:08:40.920 there was certainly controversy
00:08:42.680 just swirling around the entire appointment
00:08:46.080 saying, how can we have, you know,
00:08:47.620 sort of two popes at once?
00:08:49.120 But, you know, what difference would you say
00:08:51.300 between Francis and Leo?
00:08:54.220 Definitely a difference.
00:08:55.760 In some ways, in other ways, not.
00:08:57.700 I mean, you had, of course,
00:08:59.380 back, what, February 2013,
00:09:01.160 you had Benedict resign.
00:09:03.000 The first time in roughly like 500 years
00:09:05.200 that a Catholic pontiff resigns from the papacy.
00:09:09.600 And then that, just that iconic shot
00:09:12.380 of him flying away in a helicopter
00:09:14.980 over to Castle Gandolfo in the distance.
00:09:18.140 And it was like, okay, we're without a pope,
00:09:20.620 but he's still alive, but we're without a pope.
00:09:22.240 And then just about a month later,
00:09:24.320 March 13th is when Pope Francis is elected, right?
00:09:28.280 Jorge Bergoglio.
00:09:29.800 Initially, not so much of a difference,
00:09:31.980 but then as we saw, you know,
00:09:33.980 what I believe is through others
00:09:35.300 that this was one of the most
00:09:36.580 devastating pontificates really
00:09:40.300 in the history of the Catholic Church
00:09:41.480 on so many different levels.
00:09:42.700 You probably would agree, Jack,
00:09:43.840 in some respect, not only doctrinally
00:09:46.740 on what happened just if you're a Catholic
00:09:48.740 and you care about these issues,
00:09:50.280 the obfuscation of doctrine,
00:09:52.880 marriage and the family, the Eucharist,
00:09:55.280 the blessing of same-sex couples,
00:09:56.920 you name it.
00:09:57.820 You got that.
00:09:58.760 But then you also have the geopolitical side.
00:10:00.620 And I know we're going to get into that.
00:10:02.280 It's one of your fields of expertise
00:10:03.580 with the whole unholy alliance
00:10:06.920 with the Chinese Communist Party
00:10:08.440 and what that did.
00:10:10.280 And then, of course, the sexual cover-ups,
00:10:13.100 people like McCarrick, Father Rupnick.
00:10:15.080 So devastating in a lot of ways.
00:10:17.300 So this current conclave that we just had,
00:10:21.060 it was extremely important,
00:10:23.820 not only for the church, but for the world.
00:10:25.760 Well, and John, you know,
00:10:29.240 the biggest issue when we look at all of this
00:10:31.940 and where you saw Pope Francis
00:10:34.800 and President Trump getting into it
00:10:37.100 was this issue of illegal immigration
00:10:40.380 and the issue of borders.
00:10:43.080 And Francis would come out.
00:10:44.600 And by the way, you know,
00:10:45.800 I've always tried to be fair
00:10:47.440 and say that Francis also did hold the line on abortion.
00:10:51.780 He held the line on war.
00:10:55.260 He was anti-war.
00:10:56.200 So I've always tried to be fair.
00:10:57.820 And every time I talk about him,
00:10:58.760 I say, I'm going to say this as well
00:11:00.040 because it wasn't sort of a left versus right
00:11:02.720 kind of dichotomy.
00:11:03.940 It doesn't really work that way
00:11:05.140 when it comes to world leaders.
00:11:06.820 But he does wade into politics.
00:11:09.000 But by the way, John,
00:11:10.080 let's actually dispel something for people too
00:11:12.520 who are not Catholic
00:11:13.560 because we get this all the time.
00:11:15.480 When the Pope is speaking out on political issues,
00:11:18.980 is that something that all Catholics have to follow?
00:11:22.680 Or is that simply a bishop giving his opinion?
00:11:26.860 It's giving his opinion, right?
00:11:28.580 So an infallible statement
00:11:30.220 has a very specific formula
00:11:32.640 that needs to be uttered when he's speaking.
00:11:35.120 It also has to be in line
00:11:37.620 with what previous pontiffs
00:11:39.440 have always and everywhere taught, okay?
00:11:41.500 Previous popes.
00:11:42.380 He can't just make up anything he wants
00:11:44.100 on faith and morals.
00:11:44.820 And last but not least
00:11:46.520 is it must be rooted in sacred scripture.
00:11:50.320 So those three benchmarks
00:11:53.300 are really defined
00:11:54.360 an infallible statement from the Pope.
00:11:56.920 So when he talks about a political issue
00:11:59.920 and opinion,
00:12:01.680 we're not, you know,
00:12:02.560 we're required to give respect,
00:12:04.620 but we don't have to have our firm belief
00:12:07.840 behind that statement, right?
00:12:09.160 Because he gave off the cover marks all the time.
00:12:11.980 And I don't know, Jack,
00:12:12.980 even like, okay, what do you think about this?
00:12:14.180 So you got, yeah,
00:12:15.340 he was super strong on the abortion issue.
00:12:17.180 He had statements like,
00:12:19.020 someone who gets an abortion
00:12:20.400 is like hiring a hitman.
00:12:21.480 Typical Pope Francis,
00:12:22.520 just super blunt, right?
00:12:24.260 But at the same time,
00:12:25.980 he hires or he puts in charge
00:12:28.660 of the Pontifical Academy for Life.
00:12:30.940 This is kind of like the think tank of the Vatican
00:12:32.540 where they study issues of marriage,
00:12:34.320 life, family,
00:12:35.040 they produce documents.
00:12:36.340 Think of like Heritage Foundation,
00:12:37.760 but for the Catholic Church, right?
00:12:39.260 And the guy in charge of it
00:12:40.980 is Archbishop Paglia,
00:12:42.900 a guy who thought that abortion in Italy
00:12:46.140 was a great thing to have
00:12:47.560 and it was part of justice of society.
00:12:49.800 So he's the Pope of paradoxes.
00:12:51.660 On one hand, you have,
00:12:52.920 he says these statements,
00:12:54.240 but on the other hand,
00:12:54.920 his actions often do something else,
00:12:57.420 which I'm grateful that Pope Leo,
00:12:59.380 when the first acts he just did
00:13:01.560 in terms of appointments,
00:13:03.420 is he replaced Archbishop Paglia
00:13:05.200 and named Cardinal Reina,
00:13:07.060 who is much more orthodox,
00:13:08.600 to head the Pontifical Academy for Life.
00:13:10.540 No, and I saw that as well.
00:13:15.120 So these are huge, huge news.
00:13:17.620 By the way,
00:13:18.180 so something that I want people to know,
00:13:20.580 when we're talking about
00:13:21.640 these infallible statements
00:13:23.320 given by the Pope,
00:13:24.480 I believe in terms of
00:13:26.100 the extraordinary magisterium,
00:13:28.280 so this is the papal declaration
00:13:30.000 that's come out
00:13:31.220 in terms of the highest form
00:13:33.880 of an infallible statement by the Pope
00:13:36.120 in 2,000 years of church history,
00:13:39.420 it has only ever been used twice.
00:13:41.900 It has been used two times.
00:13:43.880 So these are not,
00:13:45.000 you know, these are very, very rare.
00:13:47.060 Once for the Immaculate Conception,
00:13:48.440 and then again for the Assumption of Mary,
00:13:50.240 1854 and 1950.
00:13:51.700 These are not common things.
00:13:54.500 And so when the Pope comes out
00:13:56.680 and he's giving his opinion
00:13:57.780 on political matters,
00:13:59.500 as, and we'll talk about this,
00:14:01.500 you know, J.D. Vance
00:14:02.400 and Michael Rubio going to meet with him,
00:14:04.300 President Trump talking about brokering
00:14:06.120 some potentially a peace deal
00:14:08.120 with, between Ukraine and Russia,
00:14:10.640 maybe some others.
00:14:12.020 What we're talking about is,
00:14:13.420 is his influence as a world leader,
00:14:15.960 which can be extremely useful,
00:14:18.060 like we saw during the papacy
00:14:19.960 of John Paul II
00:14:21.660 to fight the Soviet Union
00:14:23.760 because his power as a symbol.
00:14:26.440 And John, I'll tell you,
00:14:27.940 I'll preface this a little bit here.
00:14:29.880 We're coming up on our first break,
00:14:31.420 but what I'd love,
00:14:32.700 what I'd love in my,
00:14:33.420 in my heart of hearts,
00:14:34.400 what I'd love to see
00:14:35.260 is Pope Leo
00:14:36.500 going and speaking
00:14:38.780 to the people of China,
00:14:40.600 going and speaking
00:14:41.300 to the people that are there
00:14:42.540 living under the Chinese Communist Party.
00:14:45.480 The fact that this deal
00:14:46.820 played a role in,
00:14:48.620 we're hearing reportedly,
00:14:49.700 played a role
00:14:50.320 in the conclave itself.
00:14:53.400 We're going to get into
00:14:54.000 all that and more.
00:14:56.080 Can Pope Leo
00:14:57.140 go and open up
00:14:59.640 the hearts of China?
00:15:01.200 We'll be right back.
00:15:02.320 Jack Posobiec here,
00:15:03.940 Human Events Daily.
00:15:18.180 Today, you know,
00:15:19.180 they talk about influencers.
00:15:20.720 These are influencers
00:15:21.680 and they're friends of mine.
00:15:24.980 Jack Posobiec.
00:15:26.480 Where's Jack?
00:15:27.480 Jack.
00:15:27.760 He's done a great job.
00:15:30.540 All right, Jack Posobiec,
00:15:33.560 here we are back
00:15:34.420 live, Human Events Daily.
00:15:36.220 You're on Real America's Voice
00:15:37.720 and the Salem Radio Network.
00:15:41.060 We're on with John Gap,
00:15:42.700 Catholics for Catholics.
00:15:43.920 He's telling us about
00:15:44.840 his reporting
00:15:46.500 and his work
00:15:47.420 there at the conclave.
00:15:48.860 I was there as well
00:15:50.220 for,
00:15:51.160 which produced
00:15:52.020 Pope Leo XIV,
00:15:53.920 the first American pope
00:15:56.360 and we're digging
00:15:57.340 into some questions
00:15:58.380 about this.
00:15:59.440 John,
00:15:59.780 one of the things
00:16:00.660 that I actually did hear
00:16:02.000 reported by
00:16:04.160 a former colleague
00:16:05.160 of mine,
00:16:05.740 Alex Salvi,
00:16:07.000 we both were at OAN together.
00:16:08.480 He's now at Newsmax
00:16:09.280 and he's been stationed
00:16:10.360 there in Rome
00:16:10.860 for quite some time.
00:16:12.180 He reported
00:16:12.880 that one of the reasons
00:16:13.920 that Cardinal Parolin,
00:16:15.500 who had been widely
00:16:16.900 expected to be
00:16:18.340 the frontrunner
00:16:19.500 of,
00:16:20.360 in terms of this conclave,
00:16:22.300 that he was passed over
00:16:24.140 specifically because
00:16:25.200 of his connection
00:16:26.260 to the Vatican secret deal
00:16:27.940 with the Chinese
00:16:28.660 Communist Party
00:16:30.160 and that specifically
00:16:32.040 it was the Asian cardinals
00:16:34.260 sort of banded together.
00:16:35.800 Cardinal Zen,
00:16:36.420 of course,
00:16:36.860 flew from Hong Kong
00:16:38.160 to the conclave
00:16:39.480 to make this case
00:16:41.480 that that deal
00:16:43.140 and any connection to it
00:16:44.640 need to be shot down.
00:16:47.160 Have you heard this as well?
00:16:48.540 Have you heard this reporting
00:16:49.520 and what is your sense of it?
00:16:51.460 Heard the same thing.
00:16:52.300 One of the primary reasons
00:16:54.500 he was taken out
00:16:55.240 as a frontrunner
00:16:56.240 besides the health scare
00:16:57.560 that he had early on
00:16:58.740 in the preparatory meetings,
00:17:00.480 whether that was true or not,
00:17:01.820 that also shook the cardinals up
00:17:03.060 along with,
00:17:04.040 like you said,
00:17:05.080 the secret
00:17:06.000 China-Vatican accord
00:17:08.420 called secret
00:17:09.320 because we literally
00:17:10.660 don't know the contents
00:17:11.680 of what actually
00:17:12.600 has transpired
00:17:13.520 in that deal
00:17:14.340 where we know one thing
00:17:16.500 is that the Vatican
00:17:17.780 has allowed
00:17:18.980 for the first time
00:17:19.680 really in her history
00:17:21.540 a foreign entity
00:17:22.880 to basically name
00:17:24.460 the bishops
00:17:25.260 of our Catholic Church,
00:17:26.920 right?
00:17:27.100 So that's never been done before.
00:17:28.660 So why was that done
00:17:29.340 for Chinese Communist Party
00:17:30.620 when they openly persecute
00:17:33.320 Catholics and Christians
00:17:34.340 and Uyghur people,
00:17:35.420 et cetera?
00:17:36.080 That's a mystery.
00:17:37.060 So Perlin has his hands
00:17:38.240 stained with that
00:17:39.340 and that's one of the first things
00:17:40.740 that we're praying
00:17:41.700 that Pope Leo
00:17:42.440 rescinds right away.
00:17:43.960 And I love the way
00:17:47.740 you put that though
00:17:48.380 because that is exactly
00:17:49.880 what it's like.
00:17:50.700 It's this idea
00:17:51.980 that it's specifically
00:17:53.420 like the Uyghurs
00:17:54.900 that we understand
00:17:56.940 that these are people
00:17:59.160 that are being
00:17:59.860 completely mistreated
00:18:00.860 by their government.
00:18:02.920 They're people
00:18:03.680 who have been
00:18:04.120 completely overlooked
00:18:05.600 by the West
00:18:06.620 because we have this deal
00:18:07.840 with China.
00:18:08.680 So, oh,
00:18:09.240 they're going to make
00:18:09.960 all of our iPhones
00:18:11.200 and they're going to make
00:18:12.020 all of our superconductors
00:18:13.380 and all these different things.
00:18:14.940 But at the end of the day,
00:18:15.960 we know who they are
00:18:18.240 and we know
00:18:18.820 who this benefits
00:18:19.620 and what does it turn into
00:18:21.820 in the United States?
00:18:22.940 It also benefits
00:18:25.000 the production
00:18:25.880 and promotion
00:18:26.740 of cultural Marxism.
00:18:28.780 And I've always said
00:18:29.960 that beyond
00:18:30.560 the actual Chinese Communist Party,
00:18:33.060 the biggest and greatest threat
00:18:34.740 to Western society
00:18:36.400 is cultural Marxism.
00:18:37.800 And guess what?
00:18:38.580 I want my Pope
00:18:39.920 to be a force
00:18:41.480 against that completely.
00:18:44.420 And I don't want this idea
00:18:45.560 of, oh,
00:18:46.260 well, we need to be open
00:18:47.180 to all.
00:18:47.600 No, absolutely not.
00:18:49.300 Stand on tradition.
00:18:51.740 John, isn't that
00:18:52.600 what's bringing people
00:18:53.440 back to the church
00:18:54.180 to begin with
00:18:54.760 in this country?
00:18:56.120 It is.
00:18:57.000 I mean,
00:18:57.600 secular networks
00:18:58.720 have picked up
00:18:59.260 on this rise
00:18:59.920 of Catholicism
00:19:00.700 in the United States.
00:19:02.160 They've oftentimes
00:19:03.040 phrased it.
00:19:03.860 I think the Guardian
00:19:04.420 had an article,
00:19:05.640 Spectator,
00:19:06.560 in the last two weeks,
00:19:07.500 New York Post,
00:19:08.600 they call them
00:19:09.180 MAGA Catholics.
00:19:10.980 And I think that's also
00:19:11.860 in some ways
00:19:12.680 their attempt
00:19:14.580 to try to understand
00:19:15.340 this phenomenon
00:19:16.000 where you have
00:19:16.700 a religious demographic
00:19:17.720 in this country,
00:19:18.680 particularly young men
00:19:19.960 who have just
00:19:21.940 looked around
00:19:22.740 at the world around them
00:19:23.660 and seen
00:19:24.340 everything is changing.
00:19:25.840 Charlie Kirk
00:19:27.700 had a great point
00:19:28.380 on this.
00:19:28.840 He was in a group
00:19:29.660 text with a bunch
00:19:30.280 of Protestant pastors
00:19:31.040 and he just said,
00:19:32.420 like, guys,
00:19:33.180 young men are flocking
00:19:34.020 to the Catholic Church.
00:19:34.940 And he made that
00:19:36.160 observation
00:19:37.960 that it's because
00:19:39.220 these young men
00:19:40.500 are looking at the institution
00:19:41.400 of the Catholic Church
00:19:42.160 and realizing that
00:19:43.420 when the amount
00:19:44.960 of genders
00:19:45.500 is up for discussion,
00:19:47.240 things like that,
00:19:47.960 something so basic,
00:19:49.520 that you want to look
00:19:51.000 to a solid institution
00:19:53.080 that has not changed
00:19:55.140 its core teachings.
00:19:56.760 And they're finding that,
00:19:57.980 thanks be to God,
00:19:58.580 as a Catholic,
00:19:59.060 I say this,
00:19:59.800 in the Catholic Church.
00:20:01.020 So that's a good thing.
00:20:02.720 I mean,
00:20:02.900 one point,
00:20:03.500 Charlie,
00:20:03.880 or Jack,
00:20:04.440 I want to ask you about too
00:20:05.140 is,
00:20:05.740 did you see the report
00:20:06.680 that Chinese Cardinal
00:20:08.880 just came out,
00:20:09.560 I think,
00:20:09.660 the last couple days
00:20:10.280 and said that
00:20:11.280 Pope Leo
00:20:12.800 has actually made
00:20:13.600 several trips to China?
00:20:14.780 Now,
00:20:15.040 that could be insignificant.
00:20:16.340 I did see the reporting
00:20:17.140 on Steve Bannon
00:20:18.860 and it came out
00:20:20.760 through Liz Yure.
00:20:21.840 I haven't talked to them
00:20:22.820 outside of that,
00:20:24.560 even though,
00:20:24.960 obviously,
00:20:25.240 I do know those people.
00:20:26.900 And if it's true
00:20:28.540 that he's made trips to China,
00:20:29.760 I've made trips to China
00:20:30.880 as well.
00:20:31.980 I think that
00:20:33.000 this is something
00:20:33.740 that I would love to hear
00:20:35.040 I would absolutely love
00:20:36.540 to hear him
00:20:37.260 talk about publicly
00:20:38.480 and talk about
00:20:39.600 the issues
00:20:41.100 of being Catholic
00:20:42.260 in China
00:20:43.040 and what the government there,
00:20:45.320 I mean,
00:20:45.580 John,
00:20:46.420 we have a quick break
00:20:47.420 but I'll tell you more
00:20:48.160 about it afterwards.
00:20:49.600 When I went to go to church,
00:20:50.880 I used to have to show
00:20:51.420 my passport
00:20:51.960 to Chinese police officers
00:20:53.420 to prove that I was
00:20:54.720 an American citizen,
00:20:55.700 that I was not
00:20:56.160 a Chinese citizen
00:20:56.960 and they could write
00:20:58.120 a check mark down
00:21:00.000 of who was going
00:21:01.220 to church in Shanghai.
00:21:03.400 I want a Pope
00:21:04.440 that's actually
00:21:05.480 willing to fight back
00:21:06.980 against the CCP.
00:21:08.220 We'll be right back.
00:21:08.820 Quick break.
00:21:09.160 And Jack,
00:21:22.660 where is Jack?
00:21:24.760 Where is Jack?
00:21:27.120 Where is he?
00:21:28.340 Jack,
00:21:28.820 I want to see you.
00:21:31.980 Great job, Jack.
00:21:33.400 Thank you.
00:21:34.180 What a job you do.
00:21:35.600 You know,
00:21:35.820 we have an incredible thing.
00:21:36.780 We're always talking
00:21:37.560 about the fake news
00:21:38.560 and the bad,
00:21:39.280 but we have guys
00:21:40.300 and these are the guys
00:21:41.680 who should be getting
00:21:42.260 policies.
00:21:44.420 All right,
00:21:44.980 Jack,
00:21:45.160 so we're back
00:21:45.740 live human events daily.
00:21:48.640 We're on with John Yepp
00:21:49.820 of Catholics for Catholics.
00:21:50.640 We're talking about
00:21:51.580 Pope Leo,
00:21:53.000 the first American pope
00:21:54.500 on this Memorial Day.
00:21:56.160 John,
00:21:56.440 so we also saw
00:21:57.640 that,
00:21:58.220 you know,
00:21:58.780 that notwithstanding,
00:21:59.560 you know,
00:22:00.060 Pope Leo,
00:22:00.560 we've talked about
00:22:01.620 how we want him
00:22:02.480 to really take
00:22:03.660 a strong voice
00:22:05.860 towards the Chinese
00:22:07.340 Communist Party,
00:22:08.220 towards China directly.
00:22:09.940 We know
00:22:10.340 that the Trump administration
00:22:11.840 has made the centerpiece
00:22:13.800 of their foreign policy
00:22:15.100 and economic policy
00:22:16.620 confronting China.
00:22:18.760 J.D. Vance,
00:22:19.700 vice president,
00:22:20.660 Catholic convert,
00:22:21.920 he's gone over
00:22:22.580 just an incredible
00:22:23.700 and inadvertent,
00:22:25.820 almost really,
00:22:27.120 story arc
00:22:27.980 that we've seen here.
00:22:28.680 the last world leader
00:22:30.160 to meet with Pope Francis
00:22:32.400 before he passes on,
00:22:34.620 then J.D. Vance coming,
00:22:36.700 attending the inaugural mass
00:22:38.260 for Pope Leo
00:22:39.880 just a few weeks later
00:22:41.360 and then having this
00:22:42.680 huge sit-down meeting
00:22:44.420 with him
00:22:44.940 and our secretary of state,
00:22:46.700 also Catholic,
00:22:47.580 Marco Rubio.
00:22:49.040 John,
00:22:49.360 what do you make
00:22:50.260 of all of this
00:22:50.880 and have you ever really seen
00:22:52.300 the level of engagement
00:22:54.140 between a president
00:22:56.900 of the United States,
00:22:57.800 his cabinet,
00:22:58.680 and a pope,
00:23:01.500 a pontiff,
00:23:02.020 an American pontiff
00:23:02.900 like this
00:23:03.260 just presents
00:23:03.880 an incredible new opportunity.
00:23:05.720 It's an opportunity.
00:23:06.940 This is almost reminiscent
00:23:08.040 of the 1980s
00:23:09.000 when Ronald Reagan
00:23:10.140 basically established
00:23:11.320 a working relationship
00:23:12.560 with the Vatican.
00:23:13.200 It kind of existed
00:23:13.880 in some way,
00:23:15.280 shape,
00:23:15.460 or form
00:23:15.800 prior to Reagan's election,
00:23:17.800 but it was during
00:23:18.740 his two terms
00:23:19.580 that the evil empire speech
00:23:21.760 was said,
00:23:23.800 given,
00:23:24.160 and then Trump
00:23:25.200 or Reagan
00:23:26.820 began that
00:23:27.660 incredible relationship
00:23:28.780 with St. John Paul II,
00:23:30.040 which ultimately
00:23:30.820 led to the downfall,
00:23:32.820 as you said,
00:23:33.760 of the Soviet empire.
00:23:35.420 Could we maybe
00:23:36.500 be seeing
00:23:37.340 something similar
00:23:38.260 that happens
00:23:38.800 with the Chinese Communist Party
00:23:40.020 that they might work together?
00:23:42.200 That will be,
00:23:42.760 you know,
00:23:42.900 time will tell,
00:23:43.680 but I think
00:23:44.000 that first meeting
00:23:45.060 that,
00:23:45.600 you know,
00:23:45.760 he made time for him
00:23:46.900 right after the inaugural mass
00:23:49.140 to meet in person.
00:23:50.560 They, of course,
00:23:51.240 exchanged greetings
00:23:52.260 there in St. Peter's,
00:23:53.800 and then they met
00:23:54.380 the day afterwards.
00:23:55.500 Bodes very,
00:23:56.320 very well
00:23:56.760 for what we could do
00:23:58.900 from this vantage point
00:24:01.120 in this country
00:24:01.660 with the Pope.
00:24:06.240 And that's something
00:24:07.120 where,
00:24:07.500 like,
00:24:07.740 I mean,
00:24:08.080 I remember,
00:24:09.100 you know,
00:24:09.720 John Paul II
00:24:10.320 was sort of my first Pope
00:24:11.660 quote-unquote
00:24:12.180 growing up,
00:24:12.900 that that was my vision
00:24:14.100 of what a Pope could be.
00:24:15.760 And as a guy
00:24:16.820 who is Polish,
00:24:18.540 what he meant
00:24:20.120 for the Polish people
00:24:21.380 and even today
00:24:22.560 what he means
00:24:23.120 for the Polish people
00:24:23.900 when you go to Poland
00:24:25.060 you see statues
00:24:26.600 of John Paul II
00:24:27.880 everywhere.
00:24:29.060 You see photographs,
00:24:30.800 icons,
00:24:32.300 just,
00:24:32.600 you know,
00:24:32.920 you see everything's named
00:24:34.280 John Paul II this,
00:24:35.680 John Paul II that,
00:24:37.240 and,
00:24:37.780 you know,
00:24:38.340 streets and towns
00:24:39.880 and children,
00:24:41.340 you know,
00:24:42.080 it's just everywhere.
00:24:43.220 It's just literally everywhere.
00:24:44.960 And so,
00:24:45.660 the idea was
00:24:46.840 it wasn't just that
00:24:48.320 he was so great
00:24:49.360 in terms of his faith
00:24:50.420 and it wasn't just
00:24:51.380 that he was so great
00:24:52.100 in terms of his charisma
00:24:53.100 which he did have
00:24:54.380 in droves,
00:24:55.380 it was the fact
00:24:56.100 that he was able
00:24:57.280 to go to his homeland
00:24:58.740 which was under
00:25:00.300 communist occupation
00:25:01.960 occupied by
00:25:03.680 a godless
00:25:05.300 atheist regime
00:25:06.860 emanating out
00:25:07.600 of the Soviet Union
00:25:08.580 and be that force
00:25:10.740 for good
00:25:11.560 to break
00:25:12.520 the shackles
00:25:13.660 of godless communism
00:25:15.100 and return
00:25:16.000 the people
00:25:17.000 to God.
00:25:18.480 And now,
00:25:18.900 of course,
00:25:19.260 you know,
00:25:19.400 Pope Leo,
00:25:19.880 he's American,
00:25:20.960 he's not,
00:25:21.480 you know,
00:25:21.960 he's not from China
00:25:22.600 but,
00:25:22.920 you know,
00:25:23.060 what's interesting,
00:25:24.200 what's interesting,
00:25:24.980 John,
00:25:25.320 is perhaps we could
00:25:26.640 use some of that
00:25:27.340 in America.
00:25:28.300 Perhaps we could
00:25:29.160 use an America
00:25:30.260 that returns
00:25:31.400 to God.
00:25:32.580 John,
00:25:32.780 do you think
00:25:33.100 that's something
00:25:33.700 that we could
00:25:34.520 actually use
00:25:35.080 in America?
00:25:35.740 Are we the ones
00:25:36.620 that have actually
00:25:37.460 been captured
00:25:38.160 and taken over
00:25:39.000 by a godless
00:25:40.120 atheist
00:25:40.640 secular regime?
00:25:41.880 They tried
00:25:43.680 in many ways
00:25:44.840 and they almost
00:25:45.300 did so
00:25:45.760 in the last election
00:25:46.800 but,
00:25:47.380 you know,
00:25:47.700 58,
00:25:48.260 40 percent,
00:25:48.940 the largest
00:25:49.520 Catholic landslide
00:25:50.760 in U.S.
00:25:51.860 election history.
00:25:53.120 So we the people,
00:25:54.160 we the Catholic people,
00:25:54.880 you know,
00:25:55.840 we the faithful people,
00:25:57.100 better said,
00:25:57.920 rose up
00:25:58.680 and understood
00:25:59.860 what was at stake
00:26:00.800 and we fought back.
00:26:02.320 So we pushed,
00:26:02.880 you know,
00:26:03.460 a temporary win.
00:26:04.540 I mean,
00:26:04.680 the battle's just beginning
00:26:05.400 but I do see that.
00:26:06.860 I see because
00:26:08.740 when you start
00:26:09.300 to lose something
00:26:09.920 that you love,
00:26:11.120 you pursue it
00:26:12.280 with even greater
00:26:12.960 fervor and zeal.
00:26:14.140 But John,
00:26:14.400 I mean,
00:26:14.740 I guess just to,
00:26:16.760 just to,
00:26:17.240 just to,
00:26:17.840 you know,
00:26:18.720 sort of elucidate
00:26:19.320 my point there,
00:26:20.520 what I mean is
00:26:21.240 it's not just
00:26:21.940 the government.
00:26:23.020 It's,
00:26:23.480 it was every institution
00:26:24.720 and so many institutions
00:26:26.500 even down to
00:26:27.620 the lower levels now.
00:26:29.120 You see it in school boards.
00:26:30.800 Obviously,
00:26:31.200 we can't have prayer
00:26:32.000 in churches
00:26:32.560 or excuse me,
00:26:33.480 prayer in schools anymore.
00:26:34.860 God has just been driven
00:26:36.000 from the public square
00:26:37.620 and so when,
00:26:38.840 when I think of
00:26:39.420 John,
00:26:39.740 John Paul II,
00:26:40.860 that first mass
00:26:41.720 that he gave
00:26:42.400 in Poland,
00:26:43.800 what was everyone chanting?
00:26:44.860 They were saying,
00:26:45.340 we want God.
00:26:47.020 We want God.
00:26:48.180 And I look at
00:26:48.900 the United States
00:26:49.560 of America today
00:26:50.580 and I think
00:26:51.440 that's what's missing.
00:26:52.980 That's the biggest thing
00:26:54.220 that everyone
00:26:55.040 is yearning for
00:26:56.640 is,
00:26:57.200 is crying out for
00:26:59.320 saying,
00:26:59.800 we're missing meaning.
00:27:01.520 We have all the information
00:27:03.180 in the world
00:27:03.780 through social media.
00:27:05.360 We have connection.
00:27:06.580 We have access
00:27:08.120 to databases.
00:27:09.160 We have AI.
00:27:10.400 And as great as AI is
00:27:12.280 and as incredible
00:27:13.800 and it can search everything,
00:27:15.120 it can't give you meaning.
00:27:16.220 It can't provide meaning for you.
00:27:18.520 And so everyone's trying
00:27:19.380 to make sense
00:27:19.940 and I think that's why
00:27:20.880 Gen Z,
00:27:21.940 these Zoomers,
00:27:22.500 they're saying,
00:27:23.200 you know,
00:27:23.420 these institutions
00:27:24.100 don't work for us.
00:27:25.620 What does have meaning?
00:27:27.980 And it's God.
00:27:28.640 It's always been
00:27:30.220 the sacred,
00:27:31.380 the divine,
00:27:32.340 and that's why
00:27:33.060 they want
00:27:33.600 the connection
00:27:34.400 to source
00:27:35.680 through traditional
00:27:37.440 practices
00:27:38.360 of Christianity
00:27:40.040 that have always been
00:27:42.120 and really,
00:27:43.180 in many cases,
00:27:44.100 unchanging
00:27:45.100 since the days
00:27:46.300 of the early church.
00:27:47.700 That's what Pope,
00:27:48.720 I mean,
00:27:48.900 could you imagine
00:27:49.560 if Pope Leo
00:27:50.140 comes out
00:27:50.700 to the United States
00:27:51.640 and starts talking like that?
00:27:53.660 That would be phenomenal
00:27:54.760 and I agree with you,
00:27:56.120 Jack,
00:27:56.460 that our institutions
00:27:57.540 have been infiltrated,
00:27:59.480 right?
00:27:59.620 Even the very structure
00:28:01.680 of the United States,
00:28:02.880 the Catholic Church,
00:28:03.860 the United States Conference
00:28:04.620 of Catholic Bishops,
00:28:05.960 it became just
00:28:07.820 in many ways
00:28:08.660 an operating arm
00:28:10.820 of the Biden administration.
00:28:12.800 It was cut,
00:28:13.520 50% of their funds
00:28:14.640 were coming from
00:28:15.160 federal grants,
00:28:15.960 right?
00:28:16.120 Which kind of just
00:28:16.680 laser focused their minds
00:28:18.520 on receiving those grants
00:28:19.760 and then helping
00:28:20.440 with the illegal invasion
00:28:21.700 at the southern border.
00:28:22.700 When you get that kind
00:28:23.940 of distraction,
00:28:25.680 monetary distraction,
00:28:27.480 that's an infiltration
00:28:28.620 of a system
00:28:29.400 which is designed
00:28:30.680 to be like
00:28:31.600 the Founding Fathers
00:28:32.260 saw it
00:28:32.940 as indispensable support
00:28:34.720 for America,
00:28:35.860 our faith,
00:28:36.480 the religion,
00:28:37.280 the churches,
00:28:37.820 right?
00:28:38.300 So Pope Leo,
00:28:39.620 could he have a role
00:28:40.420 in freeing the church
00:28:41.880 back up
00:28:42.520 so that she can be
00:28:43.560 just a voice
00:28:45.060 in the public square again
00:28:45.960 like John Paul II?
00:28:47.220 I think so.
00:28:50.420 And that'd be so incredible.
00:28:51.780 Think about it.
00:28:52.360 A John Paul II
00:28:53.500 for America.
00:28:55.820 He wore the John Paul II
00:28:56.760 vestment.
00:28:57.200 He saw that
00:28:57.540 on the inaugural mass.
00:28:58.260 That's pretty cool.
00:28:59.380 The JP2's
00:29:00.580 like vestments
00:29:01.400 that he wore
00:29:02.120 as Pope.
00:29:02.820 The vestment
00:29:03.420 and the staff
00:29:05.340 as well.
00:29:06.580 Yeah,
00:29:06.980 good point.
00:29:07.520 Exactly.
00:29:08.240 The staff.
00:29:09.540 And so
00:29:10.160 he's clearly
00:29:11.200 making these references
00:29:12.260 and he's making
00:29:13.000 these symbolic references
00:29:14.120 and these aesthetic references
00:29:15.440 which I love
00:29:16.780 but you know
00:29:17.820 I still have to say though
00:29:19.540 and just as a guy
00:29:20.860 who's you know
00:29:21.620 look it's my job
00:29:22.640 to be skeptical.
00:29:23.440 It's kind of
00:29:23.720 what we do around here
00:29:24.560 and as someone
00:29:26.260 who lived
00:29:26.840 through the 12
00:29:27.980 tumultuous years
00:29:29.500 of Pope Francis
00:29:30.620 you know
00:29:31.560 we're still waiting
00:29:32.960 to see
00:29:33.680 you know
00:29:34.380 I like what I see
00:29:35.380 so far
00:29:36.000 but I want to see
00:29:37.600 some more
00:29:38.320 confirmation
00:29:39.340 of this
00:29:41.040 like just
00:29:41.440 okay that's great
00:29:42.160 you know
00:29:42.380 you said a prayer
00:29:42.900 in Latin
00:29:43.340 and you know
00:29:44.460 my children can do that
00:29:45.620 right?
00:29:46.080 You know
00:29:46.340 I want to see
00:29:47.520 some actual brass tacks
00:29:48.840 Bishop Strickland
00:29:50.220 you know
00:29:50.780 are you going to do right
00:29:52.000 by Bishop Strickland
00:29:52.860 is Father Pavone
00:29:54.300 who I saw
00:29:54.780 that he is
00:29:55.740 now petitioning
00:29:56.920 to be
00:29:57.480 to be reinstated
00:29:59.940 to the priesthood
00:30:01.180 which is really
00:30:01.760 just a guy
00:30:02.260 who had a disagreement
00:30:03.000 with his bishop
00:30:03.820 I mean
00:30:04.200 that was something
00:30:04.740 so trivial
00:30:05.500 it should not have
00:30:06.080 been
00:30:06.220 he never
00:30:06.620 by the way
00:30:07.240 never attacked Rome
00:30:08.160 never attacked Pope Francis
00:30:09.300 I thought they went
00:30:10.040 way too hard
00:30:11.540 came down way too hard
00:30:13.060 on Father Pavone
00:30:13.960 and
00:30:15.060 just a number
00:30:16.300 of things like that
00:30:17.380 John
00:30:17.980 as well as
00:30:19.040 that whole thing
00:30:20.640 that whole concept
00:30:21.480 like what's he going
00:30:22.400 to do there
00:30:22.860 I mean that's a
00:30:23.380 you're spot on
00:30:25.240 like to be
00:30:25.900 we're cautious
00:30:26.620 we're not like
00:30:27.280 canonizing the guy
00:30:28.020 but there are
00:30:29.280 concrete things
00:30:29.820 that need to be
00:30:30.560 implemented right away
00:30:32.020 the synodal church
00:30:33.340 idea for those
00:30:34.180 who don't
00:30:34.400 are familiar with it
00:30:35.540 this is Pope Francis
00:30:36.420 idea of creating
00:30:38.080 a church
00:30:38.860 which is
00:30:39.400 yes in dialogue
00:30:41.020 with the common people
00:30:43.100 but it creates
00:30:44.060 it's almost
00:30:45.200 it's Hegelian
00:30:47.540 and it's idea
00:30:48.660 that the truth
00:30:49.780 is constantly
00:30:50.520 changing
00:30:51.040 we're never
00:30:51.580 really going to know
00:30:52.400 what we stand
00:30:53.040 on as firm
00:30:53.720 he wanted a
00:30:55.160 permanent synodal church
00:30:56.300 where we're
00:30:56.660 constantly reassessing
00:30:58.080 foundational
00:30:59.240 truths
00:31:00.400 of our church
00:31:01.680 even western
00:31:02.380 civilization
00:31:02.800 so if
00:31:04.020 how Pope Leo
00:31:05.000 approaches that
00:31:05.800 topic
00:31:06.200 we'll be telling
00:31:06.900 no I think
00:31:09.760 that's exactly
00:31:10.240 right
00:31:10.540 and so
00:31:11.060 you know
00:31:11.880 we need
00:31:12.920 as Americans
00:31:14.420 to remember
00:31:15.180 that these are
00:31:16.040 things that our
00:31:16.680 founding fathers
00:31:17.340 actually believed
00:31:18.660 our founding fathers
00:31:19.780 actually and literally
00:31:21.180 believed that America
00:31:22.620 and at the time
00:31:23.920 they say
00:31:24.260 well what about
00:31:24.740 pluralism
00:31:25.360 what about
00:31:25.980 you know
00:31:26.640 what about
00:31:27.140 you know
00:31:27.780 religious freedom
00:31:28.840 the founders
00:31:30.180 always envisioned
00:31:31.380 America
00:31:31.960 and America
00:31:32.700 always has been
00:31:33.800 from the time
00:31:34.440 of the founding
00:31:34.960 and is today
00:31:35.680 a Christian
00:31:36.380 majority nation
00:31:37.680 it just truly is
00:31:39.040 and so the idea
00:31:39.980 of non-establishment
00:31:41.180 of religion
00:31:41.660 in this country
00:31:42.340 was not a
00:31:43.560 it was not a
00:31:44.540 ban on religion
00:31:45.780 the idea
00:31:46.380 the idea
00:31:46.400 was there
00:31:46.920 would be
00:31:47.760 no church
00:31:48.380 of America
00:31:49.420 the way
00:31:50.220 that the
00:31:50.600 Anglican church
00:31:51.780 is the church
00:31:52.700 of England
00:31:54.100 where the king
00:31:54.840 sort of replaces
00:31:56.160 the pope
00:31:56.940 and becomes
00:31:57.940 the leader
00:31:58.360 of the church
00:31:58.960 as well as
00:31:59.520 the leader
00:31:59.860 of the country
00:32:00.500 that America
00:32:01.200 was never
00:32:01.660 going to do
00:32:02.400 that
00:32:02.660 but this idea
00:32:03.740 that we would
00:32:04.600 ban religion
00:32:05.520 that we would
00:32:06.060 ban Christianity
00:32:07.000 John
00:32:07.300 that has nothing
00:32:08.220 to do with
00:32:08.980 our country's
00:32:09.640 founding at all
00:32:10.560 in fact
00:32:10.920 the founders
00:32:11.700 I believe
00:32:12.440 would be
00:32:12.960 abhorrent
00:32:13.300 did you know
00:32:13.820 and I pulled
00:32:14.980 this up
00:32:15.640 you know
00:32:15.880 I was arguing
00:32:16.280 with some
00:32:16.540 some lib
00:32:17.940 the other day
00:32:18.500 and I pulled
00:32:19.420 it up
00:32:19.680 and I said
00:32:19.960 Thomas Jefferson
00:32:21.120 himself
00:32:21.820 Mr. Separation
00:32:23.000 of Church and State
00:32:23.680 they always say
00:32:24.160 he used to attend
00:32:25.760 Christian services
00:32:27.040 that were held
00:32:28.100 every single weekend
00:32:29.260 in the well
00:32:30.940 of the House
00:32:31.680 of Representatives
00:32:32.520 in the U.S. Capitol
00:32:33.660 building
00:32:34.120 that's the way
00:32:35.520 that our country
00:32:36.420 used to be
00:32:37.020 and that's just
00:32:37.760 American history
00:32:38.520 and John
00:32:39.160 they hate it
00:32:39.780 they really hate it
00:32:40.660 don't they
00:32:41.040 they absolutely hate it
00:32:42.780 I mean
00:32:43.080 George Washington
00:32:44.060 himself gave
00:32:44.820 a sizable donation
00:32:46.260 to one of the first
00:32:47.080 Catholic churches
00:32:47.740 ever in the United States
00:32:48.860 in Virginia
00:32:49.360 March 17th
00:32:50.300 actually
00:32:50.520 Patrick's Day
00:32:51.160 so you know
00:32:52.140 he and he had
00:32:53.260 images of
00:32:54.240 the Blessed Mother
00:32:55.000 and St. John
00:32:55.680 the Apostle
00:32:56.500 in Mount Vernon
00:32:57.280 they're still there
00:32:57.780 to this day
00:32:58.340 so obviously
00:32:59.340 the founding fathers
00:32:59.960 had such respect
00:33:01.100 for religion
00:33:01.580 and going back
00:33:02.800 even to the way
00:33:03.840 the Catholic Church
00:33:04.820 viewed America
00:33:05.700 early early on
00:33:06.740 don't forget
00:33:07.600 Benjamin Franklin's
00:33:08.500 visit to France
00:33:09.320 1790s
00:33:10.800 he met with
00:33:11.880 the ambassador
00:33:12.460 to France
00:33:13.380 who also served
00:33:14.020 as the ambassador
00:33:14.680 to the United States
00:33:15.580 and the ambassador
00:33:17.040 on orders from the Pope
00:33:18.680 basically asked
00:33:19.300 Benjamin Franklin
00:33:19.880 hey
00:33:20.200 are you okay
00:33:21.460 with these bishops
00:33:22.660 we're going to name
00:33:23.140 John Carroll
00:33:23.720 as bishop
00:33:24.140 in the United States
00:33:24.860 and Benjamin Franklin's
00:33:26.580 response was
00:33:27.360 here in America
00:33:29.960 we respect
00:33:31.500 your freedom
00:33:32.160 of religion
00:33:32.660 okay
00:33:33.120 you can choose
00:33:33.800 whoever you want to
00:33:34.660 okay
00:33:35.160 which is interesting
00:33:36.720 juxtapose that
00:33:37.620 250 years later
00:33:38.780 with what the
00:33:39.580 Chinese Communist Party
00:33:40.420 is doing
00:33:40.800 they are the ones
00:33:41.720 naming bishops
00:33:42.660 okay
00:33:43.120 and so it's
00:33:44.480 it's an interesting
00:33:45.320 interplay
00:33:45.800 we obviously know
00:33:46.600 that our country
00:33:47.460 is you know
00:33:48.440 as the Supreme Court
00:33:49.660 one of the most
00:33:50.480 over underlooked
00:33:51.740 Supreme Court decisions
00:33:52.920 is the 1892 decision
00:33:54.740 I'm forgetting the name
00:33:55.580 of it
00:33:55.860 where they came out
00:33:57.080 SCOTUS came out
00:33:57.760 and said
00:33:58.040 this is a Christian nation
00:34:00.620 folks
00:34:03.400 we need to remember
00:34:04.460 that
00:34:04.860 we need to remember
00:34:06.100 our history
00:34:07.500 and America's
00:34:08.580 unique role
00:34:09.560 in this world
00:34:11.020 today
00:34:11.760 on Memorial Day
00:34:13.020 we'll be right back
00:34:13.740 Jack is a great guy
00:34:26.500 he's written a fantastic book
00:34:28.140 everybody's talking about it
00:34:29.480 go get it
00:34:30.080 and he's been my friend
00:34:31.580 right from the beginning
00:34:32.500 of this whole beautiful event
00:34:34.120 and we're going to turn it around
00:34:35.940 and make our country
00:34:36.860 pray to you
00:34:37.380 amen
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00:35:35.560 Alright Jack Posobiec
00:35:36.760 here we are
00:35:37.120 back
00:35:37.660 final segment
00:35:38.540 on this
00:35:39.440 Memorial Day
00:35:40.500 you're live
00:35:41.360 on Real America's
00:35:42.540 Voice
00:35:42.980 the Salem
00:35:43.700 Radio Network
00:35:44.720 we're on with
00:35:45.460 John Yepp
00:35:46.080 the CEO
00:35:46.900 of Catholics for Catholics
00:35:48.140 and we're talking about
00:35:49.160 how in many ways
00:35:50.480 this new American Pope
00:35:51.900 and we're hoping
00:35:53.680 and we're praying
00:35:54.580 in fact
00:35:54.980 we're praying
00:35:55.540 that the new American Pope
00:35:57.120 can lead
00:35:58.180 to a revitalization
00:35:59.820 and a reawakening
00:36:01.020 that's really
00:36:01.840 already going on
00:36:02.740 but perhaps
00:36:03.740 even fan
00:36:05.200 the flames
00:36:05.920 of this fire
00:36:07.380 and passion
00:36:08.080 for the Lord
00:36:09.060 and a reminder
00:36:10.120 that America
00:36:11.080 has always had
00:36:12.280 Christianity
00:36:12.800 at its heart
00:36:14.740 and John
00:36:15.920 you know
00:36:16.300 it's Memorial Day
00:36:17.440 as we talk about this
00:36:18.740 and when I look back
00:36:20.240 at the
00:36:21.020 you know
00:36:21.600 you think about
00:36:22.080 the America's
00:36:22.880 war history
00:36:23.700 or military history
00:36:25.000 Lexington and Concord
00:36:27.220 the Revolutionary
00:36:28.000 War
00:36:28.640 the Civil War
00:36:29.900 the War of 1812
00:36:31.400 the country
00:36:32.940 that those people
00:36:33.720 were fighting for
00:36:34.360 even all the way up
00:36:35.080 through World War I
00:36:35.700 World War II
00:36:36.140 the boys of Normandy
00:36:37.060 were not fighting
00:36:38.060 for a godless
00:36:39.100 atheist
00:36:39.640 cultural
00:36:40.280 Marxist
00:36:41.120 moral
00:36:41.560 relativistic
00:36:42.520 you know
00:36:43.800 non-nation state
00:36:45.120 universal
00:36:45.760 liberal
00:36:46.220 no
00:36:46.640 they were fighting
00:36:48.100 for the America
00:36:49.780 with the American values
00:36:51.220 rooted in
00:36:52.500 the Holy Bible
00:36:54.160 that's what they were
00:36:55.340 fighting for
00:36:56.020 that's what they wanted
00:36:57.220 that's what they
00:36:58.080 died for
00:36:58.700 that's the country
00:36:59.660 as it's always
00:37:00.500 been constituted
00:37:01.740 and I just hope
00:37:02.880 and pray
00:37:03.280 that this new
00:37:04.120 American Pope
00:37:04.960 can play a role
00:37:06.080 in that
00:37:06.560 if you doubt
00:37:08.640 what Jack just said
00:37:09.720 that they were
00:37:10.360 fighting for the
00:37:11.040 ideals of
00:37:11.700 from the Bible
00:37:12.920 as a Christian nation
00:37:14.080 just go look at
00:37:15.000 Arlington Seminary
00:37:15.820 there's a reason
00:37:16.600 that what
00:37:16.880 90% of the
00:37:17.820 headstones
00:37:18.260 what are they
00:37:18.900 they're crosses
00:37:20.080 okay
00:37:20.820 these men
00:37:21.580 understood
00:37:21.920 what it was about
00:37:24.480 right
00:37:24.760 I think it's also
00:37:26.180 fitting
00:37:26.960 I know
00:37:27.860 this is more
00:37:28.600 this would be
00:37:29.700 better for Veterans Day
00:37:31.020 but the fact that
00:37:32.180 Pope Leo
00:37:32.900 was
00:37:34.080 elected Pope
00:37:35.740 on the 80th anniversary
00:37:36.940 of Victory in Europe Day
00:37:38.800 and his own dad
00:37:40.140 was a World War II
00:37:41.920 veteran
00:37:42.220 right
00:37:42.640 landed at D-Day
00:37:43.640 was actually
00:37:44.400 manned a
00:37:45.180 landing craft
00:37:46.840 right
00:37:47.120 so
00:37:47.660 it's just significant
00:37:48.820 that you know
00:37:49.640 we've kind of
00:37:50.320 this beautiful
00:37:51.300 amazing country
00:37:51.980 that as we celebrate
00:37:52.700 Memorial Day
00:37:53.280 has given
00:37:53.880 not only these
00:37:54.840 incredible leaders
00:37:55.500 Eddie Vance
00:37:55.960 Marco Rubio
00:37:56.560 that are on the
00:37:57.660 front lines for us
00:37:58.940 but our meeting now
00:38:00.000 with the first ever
00:38:00.600 American born Pope
00:38:01.540 again juries out
00:38:02.640 on how his
00:38:03.160 pontificate will be
00:38:03.980 but for the moment
00:38:04.660 we'll take you know
00:38:05.380 take the good things
00:38:06.440 that we can
00:38:06.920 from what this could be
00:38:08.080 and it's
00:38:10.960 it's so
00:38:11.700 incredible
00:38:12.480 to sit here and say
00:38:13.980 and look
00:38:14.720 there's all the reasons
00:38:15.540 we've talked about this
00:38:16.520 and I've been on
00:38:16.980 War Room
00:38:17.360 with Steve Bannon
00:38:18.060 and Ben Harnwell
00:38:19.000 and everyone else
00:38:19.840 and were there
00:38:20.580 financial reasons
00:38:21.540 for picking an
00:38:22.180 American Pope
00:38:22.880 of course
00:38:23.780 were there
00:38:24.300 economic reasons
00:38:25.180 of course
00:38:25.780 were there
00:38:26.200 political reasons
00:38:27.500 of course
00:38:28.380 and the media
00:38:28.840 is making much
00:38:29.720 you know
00:38:30.460 much hay
00:38:31.040 of what I had
00:38:31.560 to say about that
00:38:32.360 on the day
00:38:33.500 of his election
00:38:34.480 and I was
00:38:34.920 sort of
00:38:35.500 I was analyzing
00:38:36.460 you know
00:38:36.940 I have people
00:38:37.520 say oh
00:38:37.820 Posobiec is criticizing
00:38:38.820 I'm analyzing
00:38:39.760 okay
00:38:40.120 I'm analyzing
00:38:40.900 the situation
00:38:41.720 fair analysis
00:38:42.300 man
00:38:42.600 explaining
00:38:43.140 what I think
00:38:45.920 went down
00:38:46.620 in the conclave
00:38:47.600 that was off
00:38:48.680 the top
00:38:48.880 of my head
00:38:49.280 now we're
00:38:49.660 getting more
00:38:50.040 information out
00:38:50.820 it actually
00:38:51.580 lines up
00:38:52.180 quite closely
00:38:53.540 with what
00:38:53.960 some of the
00:38:54.400 things I was
00:38:54.800 talking about
00:38:55.180 I was really
00:38:55.740 pounding on
00:38:56.300 that CCP deal
00:38:57.280 turns out
00:38:57.960 that was a
00:38:58.380 huge part
00:38:59.040 of this
00:38:59.340 as well
00:38:59.820 but John
00:39:00.760 I think
00:39:02.480 this is the
00:39:02.900 hope
00:39:03.080 this is the
00:39:03.440 real hope
00:39:03.780 and not just
00:39:04.140 by the way
00:39:04.520 of the United
00:39:04.920 States
00:39:05.180 but the whole
00:39:05.540 world
00:39:05.840 the whole
00:39:06.660 world
00:39:07.020 it's
00:39:07.720 we
00:39:08.020 as
00:39:08.620 Christians
00:39:09.400 as Catholics
00:39:10.340 we want
00:39:11.320 the world
00:39:12.000 to turn
00:39:12.860 to Christ
00:39:14.440 that is
00:39:15.540 the goal
00:39:16.340 and I believe
00:39:17.000 it was
00:39:17.700 the former
00:39:18.960 Pope Leo
00:39:19.600 Pope Leo
00:39:20.100 the 13th
00:39:21.360 who said
00:39:22.140 that if you
00:39:22.900 believe all
00:39:23.620 religions are
00:39:24.300 the same
00:39:24.800 then that's
00:39:25.260 the same
00:39:25.620 thing as
00:39:26.240 atheism
00:39:26.840 he did say
00:39:28.760 that that was
00:39:29.180 a formal
00:39:29.520 document
00:39:29.880 the Abu
00:39:30.320 Dhabi
00:39:30.700 document
00:39:31.140 2019
00:39:31.780 you can argue
00:39:33.140 all you want
00:39:33.540 about Francis
00:39:34.040 pontificate
00:39:34.620 but the fact
00:39:35.120 of the matter
00:39:35.420 is he put
00:39:36.300 his name
00:39:36.840 to a document
00:39:38.340 like you said
00:39:38.820 which said
00:39:39.240 that God
00:39:39.880 wills the
00:39:40.420 plurality
00:39:40.880 of all
00:39:41.100 religion
00:39:41.460 no he
00:39:42.220 doesn't
00:39:42.880 okay
00:39:43.180 Jesus Christ
00:39:44.200 came
00:39:44.620 for one
00:39:46.120 specific
00:39:46.540 to show
00:39:46.880 one path
00:39:47.380 to heaven
00:39:47.740 right
00:39:47.980 so I
00:39:48.780 think
00:39:49.040 this is
00:39:49.940 the moment
00:39:50.220 as an
00:39:50.740 American
00:39:51.160 even if
00:39:52.020 you're
00:39:52.140 not
00:39:52.340 Catholic
00:39:52.820 I think
00:39:53.720 you should
00:39:53.980 take great
00:39:54.500 pride
00:39:55.040 in what
00:39:55.960 our country
00:39:56.500 is
00:39:56.780 the financials
00:39:57.420 you brought
00:39:57.720 that up
00:39:58.040 it's a fair
00:39:58.700 analysis
00:39:59.080 because here's
00:39:59.760 the reality
00:40:00.340 America
00:40:01.340 funds
00:40:02.300 most of
00:40:03.380 the Vatican
00:40:03.940 okay
00:40:04.620 our
00:40:05.300 economy
00:40:06.540 our
00:40:06.800 prosperous
00:40:07.600 nation
00:40:08.080 that God
00:40:08.640 has given
00:40:09.080 us
00:40:09.460 we've
00:40:10.180 one of the
00:40:10.780 most generous
00:40:11.160 nations in the
00:40:11.740 world
00:40:11.960 and we've
00:40:12.320 in turn
00:40:12.620 given it
00:40:12.980 back to
00:40:13.240 the Vatican
00:40:13.540 we pulled
00:40:14.500 back the
00:40:14.980 past 12
00:40:15.460 years
00:40:15.800 because we
00:40:16.560 saw this
00:40:17.040 quasi-communist
00:40:18.740 leader
00:40:19.360 changing what
00:40:21.160 we believe
00:40:21.600 is Catholic
00:40:21.960 for centuries
00:40:22.800 and what
00:40:23.180 we need to
00:40:23.720 do
00:40:23.860 is remember
00:40:24.820 that America
00:40:25.740 is a gift
00:40:28.300 from God
00:40:29.000 a blessing
00:40:29.640 from God
00:40:30.280 and we
00:40:30.940 should create
00:40:31.800 a country
00:40:32.280 that's worthy
00:40:33.340 of God
00:40:34.400 John where
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00:40:35.640 you and get
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00:40:40.880 we are here
00:40:41.740 along with many
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00:40:42.820 to be on the
00:40:43.600 front lines
00:40:44.200 of making this
00:40:44.880 country great
00:40:45.440 again
00:40:45.760 putting God
00:40:46.460 at the center
00:40:47.020 of it
00:40:47.320 Christ is
00:40:49.480 King
00:40:50.080 ladies and gentlemen
00:40:50.980 as always
00:40:51.600 you have my
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00:40:53.000 round
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00:40:54.220 to love
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00:40:58.520 consent
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