Human Events Daily with Jack Posobiec - October 06, 2026


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00:00:00.000 Hey guys, it's Jack. I'm excited to let you know that finally the new edition of Unhuman Socialist Revolution is available for pre-order.
00:00:08.720 It's coming out in October. You can get it at unhumansbook.com or amazon.com.
00:00:15.060 Make sure to go and learn the tactics to crush the communist uprising.
00:00:23.720 This is what happens when the fourth turning meets fifth generation warfare. 0.62
00:00:30.000 With the war ongoing, Iran has continued to target vessels in the Strait of Hormuz.
00:00:48.480 Another tanker was hit on Monday with an unknown projectile.
00:00:52.080 As of October 5th, CENTCOM forces have redirected 130 commercial vessels
00:00:55.920 during strict enforcement of the ongoing U.S. naval blockade against Iran.
00:01:00.000 This, coupled with an ongoing effort to escort millions of barrels of crude oil out of the Persian Gulf each day, is putting new pressure on the regime.
00:01:07.500 President Trump continued his red state campaign tour ahead of the midterms yesterday with a stop in Nebraska, rallying on behalf of incumbent Senator Pete Ricketts.
00:01:17.480 At that event, the president signed an executive order waiving restrictions on tax-free red dye diesel.
00:01:24.280 Nebraska is one of several reliably conservative states where the GOP is on the defensive right now.
00:01:29.440 Mere record high diesel prices as a result of the war with Iran are a major factor in that.
00:01:34.640 President Trump is launching a task force he says will promote AI dominance and protect American lives and interests.
00:01:40.480 Trump says a so-called super intelligence force, quote,
00:01:43.100 will coordinate the federal government's engagement with consumers, public interest groups, religious organizations,
00:01:48.420 critical infrastructure providers, and super intelligence companies. 0.75
00:01:52.520 Dispected mnemonic plague in Russia.
00:01:55.560 Authorities say the woman worked at an anti-plague research institute in Siberia and an accident at the lab released the dangerous infection.
00:02:04.540 The hospital where she was treated is now under quarantine and at least 200 other people are under observation after coming in contact with her.
00:02:13.680 The Trump administration telling NewsNation they're closely monitoring the situation and have joined a global call urging Russia to be transparent and share information as they confirm new details about the infection.
00:02:26.440 President Trump has approved a firing squad for the execution of the man who committed a deadly mass shooting at Fort Hood in Texas.
00:02:35.760 Nidal Hassan was convicted of the 2009 shooting that killed 13 people and injured 32 others.
00:02:43.680 violent rioting in france days of it leftist agitators using firecrackers and smoke bombs
00:02:56.420 in the streets some attacking police students and teachers were told started this whole thing last
00:03:01.300 month they're claiming the government is not investing enough in education and police have
00:03:06.040 arrested thousands of people at this point all right folks jack for something back live here
00:03:12.980 Ladies and gentlemen, welcome aboard today's edition of Human Events Daily.
00:03:16.960 Today is October 6th, 2026.
00:03:20.780 Anno Domini.
00:03:22.040 We've got a lot going on today.
00:03:23.780 And we start as fortuitously or precipitously as we could with Dr. Peter Navarro,
00:03:30.220 who comes to us live from Pebble Beach outside the White House.
00:03:33.680 Dr. Navarro, how are you?
00:03:37.140 Pozo, my friend.
00:03:39.220 Great to be with you. 1.00
00:03:40.700 It is a strange coincidence that we have Russia, a deadly virus, killing people. 0.93
00:03:48.440 You have to wonder whether there's a bioweapons lab there. 0.81
00:03:52.700 What we're going to talk about today is Tony Fauci and how he funded bioweapons research in Wuhan, China, that turned into the pandemic.
00:04:02.880 So these are scary things.
00:04:06.760 No, it absolutely is.
00:04:08.380 and of course the you know serious questions about what's going on there um i've been trying
00:04:12.560 to you know pull out some information myself as to what's going on in russia but of course
00:04:16.660 you know reading russian media you know everything's fine don't worry about it but you
00:04:20.480 you never do know but the real question for us going back on fauci is of course what happened
00:04:26.180 in wuhan china in 2019 going into 2020 with xi jinping as well as with the local researchers
00:04:34.620 Shijong Lee, the Wuhan Institute of Virology, and the fact, as you outline in your new book,
00:04:39.180 that Fauci knew about it from the start because he's the one who set it up.
00:04:45.760 Yes, this book, it's Why Fauci Must Rot in Prison. It's up on Amazon. I'm hoping everybody in your
00:04:53.040 show can go grab that. We're going to have a big RAV party all day next Tuesday. But the book
00:05:00.740 looks through Fauci's diary, which RFK Jr. found, compares it to mine, and it's mind-blowing,
00:05:11.440 Jack. Think about this. In January of 2020, when you and others were on Steve Bannon's War Room,
00:05:19.820 and he was renaming it War Room Pandemic, right? We're scoping this out. Fauci's with 12 of the
00:05:27.220 top leading biologists in the world, 10 of 12 of which tell Fauci that that virus is from the lab
00:05:36.500 in Wuhan. Think about that. Okay. So Fauci knows right at that point in January, 2020, that that
00:05:42.900 thing's from Wuhan and he has an epiphany. He goes, oh my God, I probably created that. Why?
00:05:50.840 Because he knew that his agency funded this gain of function research. Basically, Jack,
00:05:57.060 What he did was offshore a very dangerous technology to a Chinese bioweapons lab to evade stricter regulation here and get something cheaply done.
00:06:08.300 I mean, it just blows your mind.
00:06:11.020 But he did that.
00:06:11.960 So what does he do?
00:06:13.760 It's all outlined in the book Why Fauci Must Rot in Prison.
00:06:17.220 It's homicide.
00:06:18.580 What he does is he engineers arguably the worst cover-up in medical history.
00:06:24.580 The same scientists who tell him that that thing from the lab, a couple of them have some grants pending with Fauci.
00:06:34.700 Lo and behold, four weeks later, they publish this thing called the Proximal Origin Paper Jack.
00:06:41.940 And he says, oh, the virus is from nature, not from the lab, right?
00:06:45.820 And Fauci, I'm pointing over at the Brady press room over here.
00:06:49.040 He gets up on the stage, Jack, waves that paper and says, well, it's from from nature.
00:06:54.800 And he was spreading it right everywhere.
00:06:56.560 Dr. Navarro, give us give us one second.
00:06:58.960 We're up on a hard break.
00:06:59.960 We'll come right back in with Bravo Block.
00:07:02.320 Why Fauci must rot in prison.
00:07:05.900 Dr. Peter Navarro.
00:07:07.080 Right back.
00:07:07.520 Premium Events Daily only on Rue Markers Voice.
00:07:19.040 Jack. Where's Jack? Where is he? Jack, I want to see you. Great job, Jack. Thank you. What a job
00:07:31.640 you do. You know, we have an incredible thing. We're always talking about the fake news and the
00:07:35.720 bad, but we have guys, and these are the guys who should be getting Pulisic.
00:07:39.660 all right folks jack posovic back live here human events daily real america's voice only on the
00:07:53.940 great real america's voice by the way uh just incredible work that's been done with parker
00:08:00.000 with rob and everyone out there i want to go back we're live at the white house with dr peter
00:08:05.380 navarro he's walking us through his theory of the case on why fauci should rot in prison and dr
00:08:10.920 navarro people have to understand that you're not you're not just some guy who's writing this
00:08:14.280 from the sidelines you were there in the room with them when all this happened
00:08:17.240 right oh right right there that's a west wing right there basement is the situation room
00:08:25.360 go back to january of 2020 jack a president tells me go down there make the case for the china
00:08:32.240 travel ban so i dutifully do that i go into this room see a bunch of guys i know and then one guy
00:08:39.040 sitting across from me never heard about didn't know he walked on water uh i got in an argument
00:08:44.420 with this sob it was tony fauci within about 60 seconds and he's saying travel bans don't work
00:08:51.880 and i'm saying what are you talking about you got clouds coming up from crematoria in wuhan 0.84
00:08:59.020 dead bodies, 20,000 people coming from China every day into America, and the Chinese aren't
00:09:07.520 letting the Chinese travel out of Wuhan, and you want them to come here, oh, travel in 1.00
00:09:11.780 his own work, travel, I'm thinking to myself, this guy is a frigging arrogant idiot, and 0.99
00:09:17.560 I would fight him on everything, Jack, I fought him on the lockdowns, I was the first guy 1.00
00:09:23.300 here to say lockdowns are going to do more harm than good. I fought him on how he approached
00:09:30.300 masks, certainly on the universal jabs. And I make the case in the book, it's why Fauci
00:09:39.220 must rot in prison. Please go to Amazon, take a look at this. I make the case that first
00:09:45.400 of all, he created the virus. He's the godfather of the pandemic because he funded the research
00:09:51.840 at the Chinese lab that did it so that's homicide then he covered it up he actually had his own 0.97
00:09:59.600 scientists lie about where the virus came from they said it was nature not the Wuhan lab that's 0.76
00:10:05.500 obstruction of justice right there and then he did things in these this is like in microcosm
00:10:13.840 Jack the most heinous two things he did he knew there was myocarditis risk to young men
00:10:20.420 He didn't tell them he made them take the jab.
00:10:23.240 He knew there was risk to women in their first trimester of pregnancy of miscarriage.
00:10:28.960 He didn't tell them, made them take the jab on penalty of losing their jobs.
00:10:34.440 That stuff's heinous.
00:10:36.260 And there's laws.
00:10:38.000 There's a law in Texas.
00:10:39.460 You can go after him on the miscarriage issue.
00:10:41.820 There's a law in Florida.
00:10:43.120 You can go after him both on the homicide and the myocarditis.
00:10:47.780 And as we speak, Jack, there's attorneys general around this country who are trying to subpoena him and move forward.
00:10:54.540 I lay out the case, why Fauci must rot in prison.
00:10:59.300 I'm the prosecutor. You're the jury. You'll render the verdict.
00:11:02.900 And, Jack, I think if everybody buys and reads this book, the political energy to put that guy behind bars will just well up and consume him.
00:11:12.560 Because, Jack, that guy did more damage than anybody in medical history, anybody, and he deserves to rob prison, sir.
00:11:22.260 Well, there's no question that he knew exactly what the Chinese Communist Party was lying about publicly because privately he was saying the exact same things. 0.63
00:11:31.340 He was covering his tracks.
00:11:33.700 And so when we look at this, by the way, you know, we know that that referral was made.
00:11:38.120 I believe it was Senator Rand Paul made it from the Justice Committee, because these are questions about perjury issues that we know can be brought up by the Department of Justice at that level.
00:11:48.620 What are some of the things that the state's attorneys general are looking at?
00:11:55.160 Well, Florida is like the best possible case because they have some really good laws where they can put Fauci in jail, particularly for the deaths that happened to senior citizens.
00:12:08.120 So what needs to happen is subpoenas, basically, to Fauci.
00:12:13.900 The pardon won't help him there, as well as to his aides.
00:12:16.840 And look, Rand Paul, this is a campaign issue, Jack, and I'll tell you why.
00:12:22.800 It's like one of Fauci's aides, this guy named Morin's,
00:12:27.920 already destroyed evidence that would convict Fauci.
00:12:31.880 And he pleaded guilty, and he's going to do prison time.
00:12:35.140 Think about that.
00:12:35.900 One of his closest aides. 0.75
00:12:36.940 There's another woman who was his kind of like Girl Friday in there, and she looks like destroyed stuff, like the shredder kind of thing.
00:12:48.460 And she has been subpoenaed by Rand Paul.
00:12:52.720 They want to hold her in contempt, but it's a it's a even vote in the Rand Paul committee, a majority vote, but only by one.
00:13:01.000 And they need two more Democrats to get it.
00:13:04.300 So it's the Democrats who are protecting this guy.
00:13:07.160 God knows why.
00:13:08.020 But the AG in Florida, what he needs to do, and he's begun this process, is send out subpoenas to Fauci, Morinz, this woman, I think her name's Conrad, and just pull him in and begin to gather the evidence.
00:13:22.880 Fauci can't lie to a Florida grand jury.
00:13:26.880 Pardon won't help him there.
00:13:28.280 He can take the fifth, but then there's his aides. 0.91
00:13:31.640 And if we give the AIDS immunity, they got to talk. 0.91
00:13:36.760 Oh, it's, it's as simple as that. 0.89
00:13:38.400 It's as simple as that.
00:13:39.240 Dr. Navarro, while I have you in and I want to remind everybody, go and check out the
00:13:43.720 book, get it yourself, get the QR code that's right up.
00:13:46.520 People can scan Amazon there.
00:13:48.580 The preorder is now available.
00:13:50.180 Why Fauci must rot in prison.
00:13:52.380 Why Fauci must rot in prison.
00:13:54.300 The new seminal book from Dr. Peter Navarro.
00:13:58.100 He himself, by the way, a political prisoner, which I remember, Dr. Invaro, was not responsible for the deaths of any Americans.
00:14:07.020 No, in fact, it was these experiments and it was this collusion with the Chinese Communist Party.
00:14:11.840 Dr. Invaro, something that you've always been an absolute leader on and something that you've taught me so much about just over the years is, of course, the president's tariff strategy.
00:14:22.720 and yourself were absolutely instrumental in creating that tariff strategy and putting it
00:14:29.180 into practice, we got a question in from readers. And it was longtime viewers and longtime folks
00:14:36.180 were saying, with these companies, and we see prices and people are talking about affordability
00:14:40.980 and different things. There was a chart that came out recently saying that with the companies that
00:14:45.880 got those tariff rebates, one of the top things that they were looking to do with the money
00:14:52.660 It was 75% of them said they wanted to keep the tariff refund in cash.
00:14:58.740 53% said invest in R&D or capital projects.
00:15:04.120 17% said customer rebates.
00:15:06.680 But the very lowest one, only 15% said the planned use of the funds, or use 15% of the funds, I should say, to lower prices for the consumer.
00:15:16.820 My question, I suppose, is what are we to make of these companies that are pocketing
00:15:22.620 that money rather than actually paying the savings forward?
00:15:27.500 Well, look, they screw American workers when they bring in this unfairly traded cheap subsidized 0.99
00:15:36.740 crap from China or Vietnam or Malaysia, okay? 0.99
00:15:40.280 So that's their business model. 0.99
00:15:42.100 So they sue and they win at the Supreme Court.
00:15:44.660 Then they get money back and they put it in their own pockets.
00:15:47.720 That's who these people are.
00:15:49.220 That's who we're trying to stop.
00:15:51.000 Now, here's the good news, Jack.
00:15:54.160 What the tariffs did initially, even though the Supreme Court would later overturn them
00:16:01.280 and force these rebates, what it did was it provided Jameson Greer, the United States
00:16:06.480 trade rep, and Howard Ludnick at the Department of Commerce the power to go out and make trade
00:16:12.640 deals that forced over 30 countries to lower their tariff barriers, which is good for America.
00:16:21.460 So that's in process.
00:16:23.420 So that's good.
00:16:25.060 What it's also, the Supreme Court decision also, even though it struck down what's called
00:16:29.940 the IEPA tariffs, the emergency tariffs, it said all the other things you're doing are
00:16:35.920 fine 232s for things like steel aluminum and copper 301s for china and now other countries
00:16:45.280 uh and so what's happening is with the tariffs we're seeing a strong influx of investment
00:16:53.580 and with the tag the big beautiful bill tax cut 100 percent uh full expensing for factories built
00:17:03.480 here in american soil we're seeing a tremendous amount of money it's like up to like 17 trillion
00:17:10.280 in pledged and we're seeing it in the data jack for example today's trade data and on the surface
00:17:17.720 it didn't look that great the trade deficit went up but when you probe beneath it it was mostly
00:17:24.040 capital goods that are going to be used to build factories it's industrial equipment machines
00:17:30.120 ships, things like that. And so as we import that, over time, we get the factories and the
00:17:36.940 factories give us the jobs and the higher wages, all the mega stuff. And what we're seeing in the
00:17:43.060 data is the consumer goods, the cheap stuff that steal our jobs, that's going down in terms of our
00:17:50.160 imports. So the Trump tariff plan, coupled with the tax plan, coupled with the reduced regulation
00:17:58.020 is all working. And we're seeing, I'm the director of the Office of Trade and Manufacturing,
00:18:05.160 emphasis on manufacturing. We're seeing a tremendous upward trend
00:18:08.300 in American manufacturing for the first time in a very long time, Jack.
00:18:13.940 Well, and that's great to hear as well. And of course, we can see not just the manufacturing
00:18:18.880 out in the country, but also the manufacturing and the construction going on right there behind
00:18:23.720 you at the White House. That's the North Lawn that folks are looking at. And you're seeing
00:18:27.820 some some american ingenuity and grit and know-how right there dr navarro thank you so much
00:18:32.940 uh for your leadership on this thank you for for being willing to call out fauci
00:18:37.420 even when you didn't have to tell us once again where people can go and get a copy of the new book
00:18:44.860 well then go to get your new book too with the it's the old book with more content i love what
00:18:50.620 what you do pozo how why fauci must rot in prison why fauci must rot in prison on amazon see if we
00:18:58.040 can like really go grab that today uh and then we're going to have a big party on the 13th on
00:19:03.020 rav we've got to put this guy in prison you can help rav you can help all right from your lips
00:19:11.960 doctor from your lips doctor over right back jack posobik uh we're going to preview the
00:19:16.720 president's upcoming trip to baltimore you talk about influences these are influences
00:19:21.880 and uh they're friends of mine jack or something where's jack jack he's done a great job
00:19:30.140 all right folks jack posovic back live here and let me ask you something right now it's important
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00:20:55.960 defense construction, defense world where President Trump, believe it or not, is about
00:21:03.560 to appear, make this appearance in Baltimore, Maryland, of all places, Sparrows Point, I believe
00:21:08.980 the old Bethlehem steel plant, where there's actually going to be a conversion of that plant.
00:21:15.980 They're announcing a huge, huge push, bringing that up to modern day technology with a $3.7
00:21:24.400 billion investment by Arundel Industries, Arundel. This, of course, headed by Palmer
00:21:31.680 Lucky, so many others, and a shipyard facility right there on that port. And folks will remember
00:21:37.980 that this is very close, very, very close to the same area where that bridge collapse happened a
00:21:44.720 few years, I believe it was two years ago, March of 2024, if memory serves. I have to look that up.
00:21:50.100 My crack team at Human Events Productions, I'm sure we'll get that to me in a second.
00:21:54.660 But this is this idea, thousands of jobs. They're going to be making new submarines,
00:21:59.620 believe it or not. And again, autonomous systems. So I want to go into Alison Hans. She is our Real
00:22:07.180 America's Voice correspondent there on the ground. Allison, how are you? I'm doing great.
00:22:13.460 How are you doing, Jack? Well, I'm doing well. Look, as a Navy guy, of course, you know,
00:22:19.260 excited to hear about the new shipyard facility. I could see, I think, looks like there's a number
00:22:25.800 of, I think, are those midshipmen behind you from the Naval Academy? Yeah. Yes. A lot of folks from
00:22:32.880 the Service Academy. So very exciting day here at Sparrows Point, Maryland. And there's a lot of
00:22:39.540 history underneath where I'm standing today. As you mentioned, this was once home to the largest
00:22:45.580 steel mill in the world, employing some 30,000 people at its peak and helping to build America's
00:22:53.220 industrial and military might. That's Bed-Land Steel. But the steel industry here eventually
00:22:58.980 collapsed, as we all know, and the mill closed and thousands of jobs disappeared. And that's what
00:23:04.360 makes President Trump's visit here so interesting today, because, as you said, defense tech company
00:23:10.960 Andrill is announcing a massive new manufacturing facility right here at Svaros Point. It is a $3.7
00:23:18.280 billion private investment expected to create more than 3,000 permanent jobs. Now, the facility
00:23:25.600 will manufacture critical components for the Navy's Virginia-class attack submarines.
00:23:31.760 So there's really this, I guess you could call it a full-circle element to this story
00:23:37.180 in that a place that once helped build America's industrial power
00:23:41.900 could now become part of building the next generation of American defense.
00:23:47.540 And that actually fits right directly into one of the president's bigger economic themes,
00:23:53.760 bringing manufacturing and industrial capacity back to the United States. Jack?
00:24:00.640 Well, and that's incredible. So with the president there, of course, it's really showing that this is
00:24:07.460 going to be a huge highlight for bringing those jobs back to the United States that have been
00:24:12.400 gone for so long. I was with the vice president just last week in Brownsville, Texas, describing
00:24:17.620 a new facility that was built down there as well. And look, as a Navy guy, I have to I just have to
00:24:23.360 say, you know, it it really shows that it's a new era that we're entering into because what is one
00:24:29.160 of the big through lines for all of this? It's not just the fact that the manufacturing is happening
00:24:32.900 in the United States, but it's the fact that the surface vessels and the submarines undersea
00:24:37.840 vessels are going to be unmanned. Have you been able to get any information regarding the types
00:24:44.000 of vessels that are going to be produced there and really how this is a new a new path forward
00:24:48.940 for the Navy. I know there's a lot of talk of those autonomous drones, those types of AI and
00:24:58.700 robotics, and I think we're going to learn more about that today, but no specifics regarding
00:25:04.060 exactly what they'll be building. I think more than anything, symbolically, I think this is
00:25:10.560 for what was Bethlehem Steel and a plant that had closed down, and in the community,
00:25:17.080 so many jobs were lost to have this built back up and really be a force within the Navy and
00:25:25.780 the United States government is truly extraordinary. Well, that's exactly right. And it's incredible
00:25:33.960 to see also the fact that it's the Navy, it's bringing jobs back to the United States and
00:25:40.220 bringing shipbuilding back to the United States because for far too long, the United States had
00:25:45.460 outsourced our shipbuilding capacity to places like china for transport ships and commercial vessels
00:25:51.700 and ultimately that is a national security nightmare as we learned during covid so the idea
00:25:58.740 of the opening of a shipyards in a place like baltimore a place where we were told uh you know
00:26:04.340 the jobs were never coming back to it really does actually show showcase for the administration
00:26:09.780 a win along the lines of what they have been holding back and other i i'm i'm not surprised
00:26:16.260 that uh you know that they held this news there for uh the one month before the elections
00:26:23.060 i had absolutely and a very interesting to have uh and drill as the company that's really leading
00:26:30.340 the way because this is one of the newer defense tech companies that was founded in 2017 uh by uh
00:26:37.540 palmer lucky uh and you don't really think about him in uh when it comes to defense uh there we
00:26:43.460 are but uh alison i'm just noticing the i'm just checking the time there i do have to run do have
00:26:48.260 to run but congratulations and of course real america's voice will go right back to you as
00:26:53.140 soon as the president is about to take stage there in sparrows point baltimore maryland jack
00:26:59.940 Jack Posobiec, right back, Bill Marks' Voice.
00:27:18.920 The faculty of one university is one communist human.
00:27:29.940 All right, folks, Jack Posobiec, welcome back here to Human Events Daily.
00:27:47.540 One week ago today, I was aboard Air Force Two interviewing Vice President J.D. Vance.
00:27:53.440 Tomorrow, another trip.
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00:29:38.920 All right, very excited to have on here the elusive, the mysterious Mike Benz rejoins
00:29:46.960 human events daily after a lengthy sabbatical a lengthy hiatus the white whale resurfaces
00:29:54.120 he is back ladies and gentlemen mike benz to tell us benz what the heck just happened in brazil
00:30:01.360 oh it's awesome uh the brazilians are breaking free of the usa mold that uh was constructed
00:30:12.360 around it. No, it's very, it's very cool. Obviously the first round election just went
00:30:17.800 in the way of the Bolsonaro clan. I believe what four different family members, including
00:30:24.440 the wife, the ex-wife, the son, all won Senate seats and Bolsonaro won clear, a clear victory
00:30:31.400 in the round, in the general, there's going to be a runoff election in Brazil at the end of the
00:30:36.740 month, but because voting is compulsory in Brazil and everyone of age is legally required
00:30:42.940 to vote, there really shouldn't be any surprises in terms of the runoff election, especially
00:30:49.280 because not only would it be difficult to imagine you just have a mass defection a month
00:30:56.160 from now, but then also the other parties who were in the general were mostly right
00:31:02.640 wing. And so they're probably not going to suddenly turn hard left in the next month. And
00:31:09.960 if anything, they're much more likely to break towards Bolsonaro. So things are looking really
00:31:16.700 beautiful right now to be able to change what has been a very, very dark time for both Brazil
00:31:23.460 and for U.S.-Brazilian relations over the past four years. Well, now we have to dig in here a
00:31:30.220 little bit more a little bit further because it's not just that this is happening with brazil it's
00:31:34.820 there's this there's this huge shift but at the same time the question remains is that there were
00:31:39.580 so many people who were coming after elon musk coming after you for the shutdown of usaid and
00:31:46.180 at the time or prior to then we had spent years you personally had spent hours upon hours uh even
00:31:53.400 doing live streams into the dead of night going down the rabbit hole on usaid and they're backing
00:31:59.340 for the global left, particularly in Latin and Southern America, and specifically in Brazil.
00:32:05.540 And in fact, by the way, I loved how, I don't know if you've read the Jonathan Swan, Maggie
00:32:10.220 Haberman, like the New York Times book on Trump's first year, but they described the targeting of
00:32:16.260 USAID as like a fluke. They said, oh, well, they just happened to target this one organization,
00:32:23.440 and suddenly it was the linchpin that unplugged the entire global left. But, you know, they were
00:32:28.400 really just very callous and we're tearing things apart and doge and all the rest. They didn't 0.91
00:32:32.720 really know what they were doing. And I was like, have you met Mike Benz? Like, please guys,
00:32:37.780 just sit down for two seconds. Benz, walk us through how you, and, and, and there were many
00:32:44.840 others that are public and other good people who are doing work on this, um, who had pointed out
00:32:49.280 USA ID, but walk us through how this was no fluke at all. This was an examination of where all the
00:32:56.260 money was flowing and a pinpointing of a critical bottleneck in their process that was then removed
00:33:04.220 and the entire thing fell apart like a Jenga tower. Yeah, it started as an investigation
00:33:09.500 into the censorship industrial complex. And there was this strange recurring pattern going back
00:33:15.720 a decade ago, basically, when I started investigations into this and kept seeing USAID
00:33:22.860 everywhere. And USAID is like it was always in the room when it was a State Department affair,
00:33:29.960 or it was an intelligence community panel, or it was a War Department, then Defense Department
00:33:36.700 memo, or some piece of thought leadership. And so when I started to dig more into the agency
00:33:45.080 and its grants, it became very clear that what you had here was a kind of switch player that
00:33:51.420 could rotate between diplomatic, military, and intelligence-related activities, depending on
00:33:59.840 whatever it needed to be. It was a kind of ultimate shapeshifter, chameleon-type entity.
00:34:05.660 If you think about it, there's no single thing that USAID does that any other agency doesn't do.
00:34:12.220 Like, the military does something very clearly different than any other agency, right? No other
00:34:16.800 agency is authorized to shoot people. Well, I mean, to, I don't know, shoot people in war,
00:34:24.360 to declare war, to go to war, right? You think about something like, I don't know,
00:34:30.420 the Department of Agriculture does something very unique in terms of farms. If you think about the
00:34:36.240 Department of Health and Human Services, it does something very unique in terms of health. USAID
00:34:41.420 does everything and nothing. So much to say that there's no reason for USAID to exist
00:34:50.780 unless there was something else going on with everything it does. Like, for example, take
00:34:57.700 Brazil. USAID was funding the labor unions around the Workers' Party of Lula. Now, it was doing
00:35:05.600 that under the banner of providing humanitarian assistance to bolster the labor union's ability
00:35:11.200 to organize. It was funding the LGBT groups. It was funding the constitutional law advocates to
00:35:17.820 create fake news bills in the parliament. It was funding two dozen different disinformation
00:35:24.800 flagging groups around the Brazilian Supreme Court. It was funding the think tanks,
00:35:31.280 like FGVDAP. It was funding the universities. It was funding the youth movements. It was funding
00:35:38.040 the identity, the Afro-Brazilian identity groups. It was funding environmental activists. I mean,
00:35:46.380 you're talking about on the order of a third of a billion dollars between USAID and state
00:35:51.760 in funding during that, I believe, four-year period between the 2018 and 2022 elections there,
00:36:01.060 cycle that Bolsonaro led, but what I'm getting at is we have a Department of Labor if you wanted
00:36:08.700 to fund the labor groups, right? We have a Department of Energy if you wanted to do
00:36:14.020 energy-related grants. USAID is duplicative because it's duplicitous. If you had an honest
00:36:24.280 grant and you really wanted to do that work, you'd have the agency who's good at that thing do it.
00:36:28.920 This is also why USAID never fixed anything and how the Washington Post ran this kind of world status violin piece about how the people at USAID can't find jobs now.
00:36:42.600 We're told we're made to believe that they were the most qualified people in the field.
00:36:46.420 And now 14 million babies in Africa are dying because of these cuts.
00:36:50.520 And yet they can't get a job afterwards. 0.97
00:36:53.780 None of them are qualified.
00:36:55.320 They were so good at their job, they were saving tens of millions of people.
00:36:59.760 But when the agency is removed, they're not even qualified to get a job in the medical field in the private sector.
00:37:08.220 But look, the fact is, USAID declared right-wing populism doctrinally a threat to democracy,
00:37:15.380 which means that populism around the world became subject to regime change.
00:37:21.640 In Latin America, in Eastern Europe, in even parts of Western Europe where USAID is not allowed to operate, but they run these regional operations.
00:37:30.920 And one day, the full story on this will be told.
00:37:35.320 That day is not quite yet, but sometime.
00:37:39.680 Look, we can we can see we can already see the dividends.
00:37:43.040 We can see the results playing out before our eyes.
00:37:47.400 And obviously, there is much, much more that went on under the hood and behind the scenes.
00:37:54.060 But as I say, ladies and gentlemen, we are connecting the dots because the dots connect.
00:38:00.920 Right back, Jack Posobiec, Mike Benz here, Human Events Daily, only on Real America's Voice.
00:38:17.400 It's the Jack Posobiec Appreciation Hour.
00:38:20.880 I can say confidently, I believe, I think Josh Shapiro would be the vice presidential
00:38:25.120 nominee if it wasn't for Jack Posobiec.
00:38:26.840 And that is, I'll be honest.
00:38:36.280 All right, folks, Jack Posobiec, we are back live here.
00:38:40.520 Human Events Daily, Real America's Voice.
00:38:42.360 So we're all with Mike Benz.
00:38:43.740 we're talking about this, you know, this, this USAID and, and Ben's like, I asked you, all right,
00:38:49.420 all right. So there's been this meme, right? There's been this meme going around. I know
00:38:53.280 each one you're going to talk what it is that about USAID. And they're saying that, wait a
00:38:58.560 minute, guys, since we defunded USAID, like all sorts of other things are happening. Not just
00:39:05.080 the not just obviously all these elections that we're looking at Latin America, South America,
00:39:09.380 because they were propping up so much of the left-wing media down there.
00:39:13.060 But also, but also, are we seeing a cratering in rap music
00:39:18.820 because of the defunding of USAID and their inability to get into the top 40 and Billboard?
00:39:27.220 And it's like, you know what, man?
00:39:29.680 I look at these memes.
00:39:31.560 I think they're funny.
00:39:32.260 But at the same time, it's like, now I scratch my head and I think,
00:39:36.020 you know, is there an element of truth to that?
00:39:37.740 I got to get your take on this, this viral meme.
00:39:40.680 Let me clarify.
00:39:42.720 I'm not making a statement about the highest upper echelons of the most viral of all rap music in the mad.
00:39:51.860 This started off as being an investigation I was doing.
00:39:54.380 Wait, wait, wait, wait.
00:39:55.540 Are you, are you claiming, are you claiming that USAID may have been, may have been re-siphoned to, siphoned off to Real America's music?
00:40:05.560 Let me, let me, let me explain how I see the situation. Okay. The, the, the fact is, is music is an instrument of statecraft. It has been for, and the music industry, and it has been for at least well over a century, going back to jazz diplomacy in the 1940s and around the American diplomatic relations with Africa and sending over, you know,
00:40:32.580 uh all you know louis armstrong and those guys type thing you had the rock music diplomacy
00:40:39.840 you had classical music diplomacy when we were when the cia through the congress for cultural
00:40:44.100 freedom was funding classical concerts to combat shostakovich during the cold war
00:40:50.220 you had all manner of rock music being basically instrumentalized for the oat poor movement to
00:40:59.660 overthrow Slobodan Milosevic and rock music basically sponsored by the CIA around the Berlin
00:41:07.220 Wall to, you know, during the Cold War. But in the early 2000s, there became a very serious pivot
00:41:13.940 into hip hop and hip hop and rap music. And the USAID and the State Department, and by extension,
00:41:23.740 the intelligence services, began to get heavily involved in local hip-hop and rap scenes
00:41:30.880 everywhere from North and Western Africa to the Middle East around the Arab Spring
00:41:39.400 to even pockets of the Roma community and various ethnic groups and their kind of relationship
00:41:49.640 with underground hip hop and even in Eastern Europe. And so what you had was this kind of
00:41:55.360 musical form that is of the streets. And because of its kind of roots and kind of gangster and
00:42:03.820 gang violence, it is able to weave in themes of encouraging young people to take to the streets
00:42:11.580 and be violent or to take up arms against the system. This is one of the reasons that rock
00:42:17.100 music itself was promoted so heavily during the Cold War as an export to try to get people
00:42:24.160 in Eastern Europe or behind the Iron Curtain to rise up against the man.
00:42:30.260 But rap is a very loose, lyrical art form musically that allows an even more explicit
00:42:37.240 and even more on the nose kind of lyrical composition.
00:42:43.520 and especially when you're talking about groups that are racially or ethnically non-white and
00:42:51.580 there is a kind of natural affinity or i should say solidarity uh fluidity with the uh black
00:43:01.640 hip-hop uh culture that is there is a kind of cachet that uh black urban hip-hop has
00:43:10.660 with audiences in Egypt, in Tunisia, and Nigeria, and Cameroon, and Senegal, and you name it. And so
00:43:21.900 there became a field developed within USAID and the State Department called Hip Hop Diplomacy,
00:43:27.680 which basically systematically has gone around country by country around the world,
00:43:32.420 developing relationships with record labels, cultivating artists. I have a YouTube series,
00:43:37.860 Everyone can look up USAID and the Rap Game on YouTube right now.
00:43:42.440 I've published about five parts in that series, each are about an hour and a half long.
00:43:51.620 It's a fascinating field that ties in, including some of the highest levels of the music industry.
00:43:58.840 Folks like Lior Cohen and his role at the State Department Music Diplomacy Program,
00:44:06.000 as well as being the head of YouTube Music and the former head of Warner Records who sold it to
00:44:10.380 UMG, which is the biggest label in the world. I've gone over in recent streams how USAID partnered
00:44:17.840 with the largest hip-hop record label in Africa, or at least in Nigeria, to cultivate basically
00:44:29.760 rappers for revolution and rappers for uh democratic reforms uh and i recently posted
00:44:37.360 a video about how uh usa used the yanamar rap collective in senegal to pull to orchestrate the
00:44:45.800 most violent riots in senegal's history and did workshops he even became the lead singer even
00:44:52.220 became a ned fellow the national endowment for democracy became a reagan faskel fellow uh in the
00:44:57.600 at the CIA cutout, Ned, and then regionalized that rap collective network into five different
00:45:05.040 African countries, I believe Nigeria, Liberia, Democratic Republic of Congo, Zimbabwe, and Mali.
00:45:12.140 We saw the same thing with USAID and the CIA with the rap collectives in Cuba. We saw the USAID 0.59
00:45:18.280 and the CIA use rap collectives in Bangladesh to pull off the coup in 2024 to topple that
00:45:24.240 government so what you have is this relationship between hip-hop music you know rap and revolution
00:45:29.340 and and this includes during the arab spring the usa was funding all these rap collectives in
00:45:33.700 egypt and tunisia and morocco ahead of the arab spring revolutions and even use the u.s embassies
00:45:39.400 to uh do all manner of networking between young young populations uh hip-hop artists and uh u.s
00:45:48.520 statecrafted issues no it's it's it's incredible to see and and you know i'm just saying like
00:45:55.960 the the dots the dots sometimes connect ladies and gentlemen and that's what we always say we
00:46:02.760 we connect the dots because the dots connect and you were able to connect the dots uh between
00:46:07.580 usaid and rep and now we've seen the the unplugging now suddenly usaid it's gone uh released in a much
00:46:14.640 smaller form than it had been before. And of course we see the response with, uh, rap in the
00:46:21.600 top 40 of billboard. And, and so, uh, and so by the way, we do have some cameras there, uh, from
00:46:30.960 our us pool at the white house, president Trump about to take off in Marine one there. That's
00:46:38.120 the Southern lawn of the white house. Uh, he may gaggle, he may not regarding, uh, everything that's
00:46:44.260 going on on his way, a brief helicopter ride from the South Lawn of the White House there
00:46:50.360 to Sparrows Point, Baltimore, where he's going to be making this huge, huge discussion regarding
00:46:57.260 the the announcement and situation with the huge situation with the new submarines.
00:47:06.280 Last minute to you, Mike Benz, how important do you think all of these moves that the
00:47:11.080 administration are making are?
00:47:14.260 there was really big, bold moves in the first four months around things like the closure of
00:47:22.860 USAID and the Global Engagement Center and the like. And there's an open question now, I think,
00:47:29.820 about how the use of soft power and where that ranks amongst the hard power
00:47:38.100 tactics by the admin that I think is something that has not really been fully fleshed out
00:47:46.480 doctrinally. And it's something as particularly as we head into the 2028 season in the back nine,
00:47:51.900 if you will, of the admin is something that I think about a lot and I don't know who in the
00:48:01.240 admin is our Henry Kissinger figure, if you will, of MAGA, who is really coming up with a kind of
00:48:09.940 set of frameworks that are not just ad hoc, but that put all of the actions into a kind of common
00:48:19.120 strategic vision. With USAID being substantially diminished, I think we have taken to using the
00:48:30.120 US military to do things that would typically be done by statecraft or by kind of cleverly targeted
00:48:36.860 foreign assistance, which is to say that rather than having soft power create influence nodes
00:48:43.240 to bottom up a solution, we've sort of used the military to top down, whether that's Iran,
00:48:50.220 Venezuela, what appears to be parts of Cuba, Greenland even, we're using the military for
00:48:57.640 uh, kind of acquisition of various sort of territorial real estate in, uh, in Greenland.
00:49:06.960 And, um, we're, you know, we're even using the military to economically, I think, take 35% of,
00:49:14.820 of the oil in Venezuela. And there's, there's a relationship between civilian and military
00:49:21.200 now that is getting very, very blurry in terms of the distinction because we have not used,
00:49:28.040 we've cut back on so much of the civilian kind of soft power capacity. We basically
00:49:35.080 kneecapped a significant amount of our cloak and dagger dark arts soft power. And what has
00:49:42.540 stepped into the vacuum of influence in that space has been a somewhat ham-fisted hard power
00:49:49.400 and not to say it's not effective,
00:49:53.560 at least in doing the job that it says it does.
00:49:56.300 But it's a different tactic.
00:49:58.520 Mike Benz, we'll have to leave it there.
00:50:00.080 We're cutting now, of course, to the president.
00:50:01.900 Where can people follow you, brother?
00:50:03.520 Follow me on x at Mike Benz Cyber.
00:50:05.920 And if you want to check out that USA in the Rap Game one,
00:50:07.840 it's on YouTube.
00:50:09.320 Ladies and gentlemen, as always,
00:50:10.280 you have my permission to play a short.