Human Events Daily with Jack Posobiec - February 28, 2022


FEB 28 2022 - THE DOWNFALL OF JEFF ZUCKER WITH JAMES O’KEEFE

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Jeff Zucker Patrick Davis James O'Keefe Rick Salibi Ted Turner Andrew Breitbart Walter Cronkite Andrew Cuomo Pfizer Benjamin Franklin Whitaker Chambers Abraham Lincoln Barbara Walters Anthony Fauci Matt Dornick Megan Kelly Kerry Porch Jake Tapper Laura Logan Sam Feist and 4 more
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In this episode of Human Events Daily, we sit down with American dissident James O'Keefe to discuss his new role at Project Veritas, and how he and his organization have been instrumental in exposing the deep-rooted corruption at CNN.

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00:00:00.000 All right, ladies and gentlemen, welcome aboard today's edition of Human Events Daily, a very
00:00:05.040 special episode. We're sitting down with my friend, the illustrious journalist, the
00:00:08.720 muckraker, the American dissident, none other than James O'Keefe himself. James, welcome
00:00:13.140 back to the show. Good to see you, Jack.
00:00:15.680 You've been on quite a tear lately. You've just announced new news. You're bringing on
00:00:21.900 a 25-year CNN executive, essentially, to come in to be part of Project Veritas. You've just
00:00:29.100 exposed the FDA. And I want to get into those, but I also want to say that there's something
00:00:33.840 that's just happened very recently that you've played a huge role in. I don't really think
00:00:38.740 that a lot of people are realizing and giving Project Veritas the credit where it's due.
00:00:44.420 And not because you were trying to do this, but just because you were doing your job and
00:00:48.340 telling the truth, the downfall of Jeff Zucker. The way that the bottom completely fell out
00:00:56.640 on him, this was a death of a thousand cuts of his own doing. But it took the exposing
00:01:02.160 of the truth and the exposing of his misdeeds by organizations like yourselves and like the
00:01:08.100 brave whistleblowers who came forward there to tell the truth. What do you think really
00:01:12.220 went down with Jeff Zuckerberg? Well, first of all, Patrick Davis, he's
00:01:15.280 off camera, but he's standing five feet away from me. 25-year veteran of CNN. We announced
00:01:19.700 here at CPAC that we're hiring him as our top producer. And he's been with us for three to
00:01:24.380 four months and produced the DARPA story, produced the Rick Salibi story. Nobody knew that.
00:01:29.240 Yeah. Zucker has left CNN and now the company
00:01:33.140 is rudderless because, and then Patrick has said this too, it's not that Zucker was a bad
00:01:39.040 leader. You can be a good leader in the authoritarian sense. Like he was every day giving directives
00:01:46.240 and all of the talent loyal to Jeff Zucker. Okay.
00:01:50.120 But now that you've taken their God away, what do they actually believe in? Because it's not
00:01:54.780 telling the news. And then, and then there was a scandal that came out recently about Andrew
00:01:59.440 Cuomo. And this is reported in New York Times and Megyn Kelly and other people, Wall Street
00:02:04.280 Journal, that they were timing their news with Andrew Cuomo's press conferences so unethical.
00:02:09.920 Everything they accuse you of and me of, they were doing themselves. Of course, that's what
00:02:14.420 they do. They, they accuse their enemy of that, which they are guilty of. So what the extraordinary
00:02:19.460 thing I learned from talking to Patrick, who was caught on a covert recording by Kerry Porch
00:02:25.220 in 2019. And he said, all we got to do is tell the news, put a guy at the desk and tell the news.
00:02:30.960 Like the 1991 Gulf War coverage. It was no name people doing extraordinary journalism.
00:02:38.720 And this was, this was the Ted Turner original vision for 24 seven news. It was, it really
00:02:45.620 was the first to market in terms of this model of a 24 seven network that was totally dedicated
00:02:50.220 to news. And as you say, it was that Gulf War coverage that really put them in the front seat
00:02:55.020 to say, look, we can, you know, we can cover this like a car chase, but we can be here all
00:02:59.860 a day, every day. And that was a beautiful, amazing
00:03:02.200 vision that Ted Turner came up with, you know, in 19, early 1980s and the Gulf War coverage.
00:03:07.360 And then in 96, Fox came about and, and MSNBC, and then it became a struggle for appointment
00:03:12.740 viewership. And CNN had like 16 talent on a, on a oval desk. It was overkill. There was
00:03:19.780 no journalism. So it was the opposite. It was anathema to Ted Turner's vision. So Patrick
00:03:24.340 Davis says these things. He did not know that he was being recorded in 2019. We did a 12 or
00:03:29.460 so stories about CNN over the last decade. And, and, and you know, you say paper cuts
00:03:34.800 to Jeff Zucker. Jeff Zucker's strategy was always Voldemort. Do not utter the words,
00:03:39.340 project Veritas, make it go away. That's what Zucker told his staff.
00:03:43.300 I remember you actually mentioned this to me once that if you go on CNN.com and you run
00:03:48.520 a search for your name or project Veritas or a few of these other terms, and it's nowhere
00:03:54.360 to be found. So Zucker's strategy, yes, always say nothing. Now that might-
00:03:58.800 Even an attack.
00:03:59.800 But that might seem like a good strategy. However, when it comes to some things that
00:04:05.140 can actually be a bad strategy. Any, as you're, you're, you're, you're in the Navy. I mean,
00:04:11.660 you can't have a universal rule like that. Never utter a word about anything. So we go, and
00:04:16.140 then in December, we exposed Rick Salibi, who is a guy, Jake Dapper's producer, and you cover
00:04:20.800 this. Thank you, by the way, for your reporting on this.
00:04:22.800 That was the last time, the last time you were here, that was, that's exactly the rule.
00:04:25.800 And I would say you were the number one journalist in America, maybe the only journalist in America
00:04:29.800 who covered that story. And as a result of that, Jack, Rick Salibi left CNN. In fact,
00:04:35.800 we later learned that Rick Salibi left the same day we launched the story, but CNN didn't
00:04:40.800 utter a word about it.
00:04:41.800 Tell me how that works.
00:04:42.800 A couple weeks later.
00:04:43.800 Same strategy, Voldemort strategy.
00:04:44.800 Same strategy.
00:04:45.800 Matt Dornick, that's CNN's, one of their vice presidents.
00:04:47.800 He's the VP of Communications.
00:04:48.800 VP of Communications.
00:04:49.800 Replies to a tweet, like a no, with three likes on it, and says, oh, this is old news.
00:04:56.800 He left a long time ago.
00:04:57.800 Right.
00:04:58.800 What an interesting manipulative strategy.
00:05:00.800 He left directly because of what we exposed, and they made it seem like an anti-climax weeks
00:05:05.800 later.
00:05:06.800 So this was Jeff's strategy.
00:05:08.800 But the problem with that strategy, says Patrick Davis, is when a guy is soliciting pictures
00:05:13.800 of an underage girl, you say something.
00:05:16.800 If you're a newsman, you condemn it.
00:05:18.800 You don't just ignore it.
00:05:20.800 That's immoral. 1.00
00:05:21.800 So eventually this bit Jeff Zucker in the ass on all fronts. 0.99
00:05:24.800 Well, I think also the issue for him was it's not 1991 anymore. 0.99
00:05:29.800 And you can't keep thinking it is.
00:05:32.800 CNN is not the only source of news.
00:05:34.800 We have the decentralization of information now, the democratization of information, if
00:05:38.800 you want to talk about that.
00:05:39.800 Right.
00:05:40.800 Protect democracy.
00:05:41.800 Isn't that the big thing lately?
00:05:42.800 So we have social media.
00:05:43.800 We have outlets like this.
00:05:44.800 We have outlets like yourselves, your own social media, which is why they try to clamp
00:05:48.800 you down, ban you on Twitter, et cetera, smear you on Wikipedia and all the rest.
00:05:52.800 So you have all of these other outlets now by which people can turn to and say, look, you
00:05:59.800 know, I might not be a fan of James O'Keefe or Jack Posobiec or Tucker, whoever it is.
00:06:03.800 Right.
00:06:04.800 You know, but they're saying this and they've got receipts to back it up.
00:06:08.800 And now I just heard that because, you know, this is the way news works now.
00:06:11.800 News is everywhere.
00:06:12.800 News is your alerts on your phone.
00:06:14.800 News is you're getting texted from your family members, your peers, your coworkers.
00:06:18.800 And so the Voldemort strategy used to work, which might work if you lived in like Russia 0.99
00:06:23.800 or China right now, it fundamentally doesn't work here.
00:06:27.800 Right.
00:06:28.800 It doesn't.
00:06:29.800 And I think you are seeing the democratization of tech, but the challenge for truth-tellers
00:06:34.800 is that CNN, The New York Times, and these oligarchy of media have a partnership with tech.
00:06:41.800 And that does allow them to inject their poison and their narrative into the minds of unwitting
00:06:47.800 Americans.
00:06:48.800 Because there still are a percentage of, I think that percentage is shrinking.
00:06:52.800 There still is, I don't know what the numbers are, 10, 20, 30, 40% of the American people
00:06:56.800 who believe what they see in the chyrons on CNN.
00:06:59.800 And Patrick, you know, what I learned in the last couple of weeks interviewing Patrick
00:07:02.800 was that he told me that when he, when Sam Feist, the CNN bureau chief, still works at CNN,
00:07:08.800 brought Patrick in to, usually they do like a Soviet-style recanting, you must take your statements
00:07:13.800 away, you didn't mean what you said into the camera.
00:07:16.800 Patrick refused.
00:07:17.800 He said, no, I stand by what I said.
00:07:19.800 And in that room, let's say there was 30 to 50 people, people applauded him at CNN.
00:07:25.800 What that tells you is that half, maybe even a little more than the majority of people,
00:07:30.800 are actually decent people like you or anyone else here.
00:07:33.800 But they're too afraid to say what he said.
00:07:36.800 And that's really where we are in this country is this fear, this, this concern about losing
00:07:41.800 your, I don't know, pension, job, mortgage.
00:07:44.800 And I think you saw it in Canada last month since I saw you, I saw Canadians on the street
00:07:50.800 in Ottawa saying, I think there was one guy who said, I'll give up my life.
00:07:54.800 That was an extraordinary, I don't know if you saw that powerful clip.
00:07:57.800 This is a Canadian man.
00:07:59.800 These are not even American. 0.94
00:08:00.800 You almost see it's like a rugged individualist thing to say.
00:08:02.800 But they got pushed all the way past the brink.
00:08:06.800 And maybe that's going to happen here.
00:08:07.800 I hope it doesn't.
00:08:08.800 If it does, people will be pushed and they'll push back, you know?
00:08:11.800 That's what's going to happen in society.
00:08:13.800 And it's happening with people like Patrick Davis at CNN.
00:08:16.800 You know, I think, and I've talked to people at NBC behind the scenes.
00:08:20.800 I've talked to people at, also at CNN, people at some of these places where it's like they join
00:08:27.800 up and they're working there because they believe in the stated vision and purpose
00:08:33.800 and goals of the mission.
00:08:35.800 And then it's usually a couple of years in, once they've started to become vested,
00:08:39.800 once they've started to build up their resume there, they realize where they are
00:08:42.800 and they realize what's going on around them.
00:08:44.800 And at that point, it really does come down to one of those questions of, okay,
00:08:49.800 can I continue doing this?
00:08:51.800 What's my bottom line look like?
00:08:53.800 Or can I get out and I go do something else with it?
00:08:56.800 And I think that because of what you're doing, because of the work you're doing,
00:09:00.800 it's starting to give people the realization that they can come out, they can speak the truth,
00:09:06.800 and that they will be taken care of.
00:09:07.800 And so once you open that door once, the door actually gets wider.
00:09:11.800 It actually is a situation where you're going to have a follow-on effect.
00:09:16.800 It's not like one by one.
00:09:18.800 Courage is contagious.
00:09:19.800 I can't philosophize courage.
00:09:21.800 I can't persuade you to be courageous.
00:09:25.800 The only way I've found that you can get people to do it is when they see someone else do it.
00:09:30.800 And then they watch from the sidelines and say, what's going to happen to this person?
00:09:34.800 Oh, this person survived.
00:09:35.800 Oh, well, maybe I can do this.
00:09:37.800 And what's the definition of survival?
00:09:39.800 I mean, is it making money?
00:09:42.800 I think people just place more of a primary value these days on their conscience than they did a decade ago.
00:09:49.800 I see it happening everywhere.
00:09:51.800 And a lot of the comments I get from a crowd, like I'm at CPAC here, I would say the majority of comments from people are kind of like,
00:09:58.800 well, nothing ever happens to these people.
00:10:01.800 Your work doesn't matter.
00:10:02.800 And I'm sure you get this.
00:10:04.800 No one's going to be prosecuted.
00:10:05.800 Like they just this cynicism.
00:10:06.800 And I say, well, with that attitude, nothing will happen because you'll manifest that.
00:10:11.800 But inside of each and every one of us is this seed of courage, is this American ideals, right?
00:10:17.800 The e pluribus unum and equality before the law and the First Amendment.
00:10:21.800 These are beautiful, incredible, incredibly timeless things.
00:10:24.800 And that exists in all of us.
00:10:26.800 And you can choose to believe that nothing matters or you can tap into that thing inside of you and do something.
00:10:33.800 A lot of people want to complain.
00:10:34.800 Well, let me find the people who are willing to do something.
00:10:37.800 And I think you're right.
00:10:38.800 You've talked to sources inside of all these groups.
00:10:40.800 I do too.
00:10:41.800 They're on the brink.
00:10:43.800 They're ready and willing to go forward and publish something about what's going on.
00:10:47.800 They want to see that.
00:10:49.800 Well, to your point, right?
00:10:51.800 I mean, people have different motivations for why they do what they do.
00:10:56.800 But I do think you're also right in the sense that for people, for someone to be motivated
00:11:01.800 to become a whistleblower, it does also, one of the biggest motivations is that something
00:11:06.800 will come of it, that it will have an effect, that, okay, they're making a risk, a great risk
00:11:10.800 to their personal security, their personal financial status, right, their economic well-being.
00:11:16.800 If they have children, if they have a family, et cetera.
00:11:18.800 But at the same time, they want to know what's going to be worth it.
00:11:21.800 Is the risk worth the reward?
00:11:22.800 And so will there be a reward?
00:11:24.800 And so when I look at the downfall of Jeff Zucker, I can't help but think that that is tied to all of his actions
00:11:31.800 that were exposed by Project Veritas, by the whistleblowers, by this entire movement that's come forward,
00:11:37.800 to simply tell the truth, to tell the truth about what's going on behind the scenes.
00:11:41.800 Look, we could see what they do on air, right?
00:11:43.800 And we can see the malfeasance.
00:11:44.800 But once you understand the way that place operates and the way it is behind the scenes
00:11:48.800 and the fact that there are good people that would like to see it righted, wouldn't it be wonderful
00:11:53.800 if we actually had a truth-telling news network in the United States?
00:11:57.800 And actually, two hopeful notes.
00:11:59.800 How cool would it be if CNN does go back to...
00:12:01.800 Right.
00:12:02.800 And that's possible.
00:12:03.800 I mean, imagine CNN airing our stories, airing your stories.
00:12:07.800 Hey, that's possible.
00:12:08.800 I think the talent, based upon what I've heard, the talent is the problem.
00:12:12.800 I mean, the talent, everyone...
00:12:14.800 I'm making a generalization.
00:12:15.800 I think it's a safe generalization to report because it's what I've been told by people inside the network.
00:12:20.800 I think it's almost like everyone else is good except the talent.
00:12:23.800 I mean, you have people behind the scenes all saying the same things.
00:12:27.800 But there is a...
00:12:29.800 Information is accountability.
00:12:31.800 Information is the accountability that people seek.
00:12:33.800 Because it's either that, it's either you persuade by informing people and by educating them,
00:12:38.800 or you persuade through violence.
00:12:40.800 I don't believe in violence.
00:12:42.800 But I think a lot of people want coercion.
00:12:44.800 They want...
00:12:45.800 Arrest them.
00:12:46.800 Unless you get half your countrymen, or 60%, or whatever the numbers are, to agree with you, 0.95
00:12:53.800 the only way you're going to accomplish that objective is through violence.
00:12:57.800 And I don't...
00:12:58.800 We're not there yet.
00:12:59.800 We don't want to be there.
00:13:00.800 No, no.
00:13:01.800 Again, not Russia, not China.
00:13:02.800 Still America.
00:13:03.800 The mission is education.
00:13:04.800 Yes.
00:13:05.800 We have to form consensus.
00:13:06.800 It's a hard mission.
00:13:07.800 But it's the only way forward.
00:13:09.800 And I believe it's...
00:13:10.800 I believe we actually have the majority of people do agree with us.
00:13:13.800 You don't see that by watching cable news.
00:13:16.800 We've got to figure out...
00:13:17.800 At the same time, people have to look at this and say, you know, it's kind of like,
00:13:21.800 oh, when I was in the Navy, you know, when you're turning an aircraft carrier, right,
00:13:25.800 those things don't turn on a dime, right?
00:13:27.800 It's little incremental movements, but then eventually, once you realize that a new course
00:13:34.800 has been charted, you are stuck on that course and you're stuck there for a long time.
00:13:38.800 I think it's also eternal vigilance.
00:13:40.800 Benjamin Franklin said, this is all an American muckraker, this book I wrote.
00:13:45.800 Newspapers are more important than government.
00:13:48.800 Abraham Lincoln, public opinion is everything.
00:13:50.800 These are things that are so self-evident that it's like common sense.
00:13:53.800 But we forget that...
00:13:54.800 I just did a panel on Andrew Breitbart.
00:13:56.800 He said politics is downstream from culture.
00:13:58.800 You've heard that a million times.
00:13:59.800 And culture is downstream from information.
00:14:02.800 And we have an oligarchy.
00:14:03.800 It's getting worse, Jack.
00:14:05.800 I'm not even on Twitter.
00:14:06.800 Haven't been for a year.
00:14:07.800 Instagram does not allow you to tag me, which is its own sort of badge of honor.
00:14:12.800 But it's, where is this headed?
00:14:15.800 And I worry, because God, there's so many truth social and parlor and this thing.
00:14:20.800 I can't keep track of all these new mediums.
00:14:22.800 But the problem is, do you want to preach to the choir?
00:14:25.800 Do you want to only speak things to people who agree with you?
00:14:29.800 So I warn people not to only use those mediums.
00:14:34.800 Right.
00:14:35.800 My take on that is twofold, right?
00:14:37.800 It's number...
00:14:38.800 So people will ask me, they say, Jack, why don't you get off of Twitter completely?
00:14:42.800 Why don't you voluntarily take yourself off and only use those platforms?
00:14:46.800 And I have a maximalist approach here.
00:14:49.800 I say, look, I'm going to use Getter and Truth and Rumble and Parlor and everything else that comes out.
00:14:57.800 And I want those things to exist.
00:14:58.800 Do you know why?
00:14:59.800 Because you need lifeboats.
00:15:00.800 You need a place where you can be safe.
00:15:02.800 You need safe houses, right?
00:15:03.800 What leads someone to say to you, don't tell the truth on Twitter?
00:15:09.800 But the other thing that I look at this is that I say, I am not going to leave the field of battle because the battlefield is dangerous.
00:15:17.800 Why would people find you?
00:15:18.800 That's like saying, don't speak the truth out there in the street.
00:15:22.800 Only whisper in your bedroom what the truth is.
00:15:25.800 Right.
00:15:26.800 This is the public square.
00:15:27.800 We're going to go to the public square.
00:15:29.800 And I see it on the right.
00:15:31.800 I'm going to call that out because I don't understand that.
00:15:34.800 Andrew Breitbart, again, he died 10 years ago Tuesday.
00:15:39.800 He was a mentor of mine and someone I really respected.
00:15:42.800 He was all about getting in the mainstream media.
00:15:44.800 And this is before Instagram.
00:15:46.800 So Walter Cronkite, if you go back to the 80s, go back to the 70s.
00:15:50.800 There were Walter Cronkite.
00:15:51.800 You know, you've got to get covered by the mainstream media.
00:15:54.800 You do have these silos, right?
00:15:56.800 You have these multiple silos around.
00:15:58.800 But by using multiple social medias or going to different media outlets like that.
00:16:02.800 I support using them.
00:16:03.800 I just want to support limiting yourself.
00:16:05.800 Right.
00:16:06.800 That's how you cross over. 0.85
00:16:07.800 So if you can cross over and you can get past.
00:16:09.800 And even for Project Veritas, when I think every single one of your last few videos,
00:16:14.800 whether it be the two-part FDA story, exposing the FDA on vaccines and the effectiveness
00:16:19.800 and what their plans are for the rollouts, or even just anything.
00:16:23.800 Anything that you put out has been taken down by Twitter within usually about 12 hours.
00:16:28.800 I know they usually come out around 8 p.m.
00:16:30.800 And then I'll tweet it out.
00:16:32.800 And then by the next morning it's down.
00:16:33.800 So what I've got in the habit now of doing is saving it.
00:16:36.800 So I make sure I've got other ways to do it.
00:16:38.800 But that being said...
00:16:39.800 Whatever the person, and there's a million even people watching...
00:16:41.800 The story's still there.
00:16:42.800 I'll tell you half people think, why would you put your stuff on Twitter?
00:16:47.800 That mentality is what I'm fighting against.
00:16:50.800 The mentality that we're not supposed to tell the truth to people who disagree with us.
00:16:55.800 It's a weird zero-sum mentality.
00:16:59.800 It's a Manichaean mentality.
00:17:01.800 Veritas' mission is revelation.
00:17:03.800 It's revealing what's going on.
00:17:05.800 It's exposing the truth.
00:17:07.800 And I grant you that I want to be on all of these things.
00:17:10.800 I'm on the Truth Social.
00:17:12.800 I think we're getting set up today here on Instagram.
00:17:16.800 But we have to distribute.
00:17:18.800 We have to be covered by the mainstream media.
00:17:20.800 Distribution is power when it comes to information.
00:17:22.800 Yes.
00:17:23.800 Distribution.
00:17:24.800 The more you can get out.
00:17:25.800 And whether you have to have anonymous accounts in order to get it out.
00:17:28.800 Or if they...
00:17:29.800 Somebody asked me once.
00:17:30.800 They said, John, what would you do if they shut you down on everything?
00:17:33.800 And then ham radio.
00:17:34.800 Exactly.
00:17:35.800 Right?
00:17:36.800 I'll get my ham radio and I'll set up and the biggest generator I can find.
00:17:40.800 There was a moment in the beginning of my career...
00:17:41.800 What were the rest of it?
00:17:42.800 In the very early part of...
00:17:43.800 I was in jail.
00:17:44.800 I was being attacked in a horrible way.
00:17:47.800 And I was at the lowest point someone could be.
00:17:51.800 And I said, what do I do?
00:17:53.800 My mother and sister, who are wonderful people, gave me this advice.
00:17:56.800 And James, even if one person is willing to listen to what you have to say, you tell them
00:18:02.800 what is true.
00:18:03.800 I mean, that's a pretty low point to be when you decide, okay, there's one person who will
00:18:06.800 listen to me.
00:18:07.800 Yeah.
00:18:08.800 A.M.
00:18:09.800 Right?
00:18:10.800 You do whatever you have to do.
00:18:11.800 But I also believe if the content is good enough, like the FDA guys' shocking statements,
00:18:16.800 the DARPA documents, I mean, shocking statements.
00:18:19.800 Anthony Fauci mentioned us by name in that Senate hearing.
00:18:22.800 I'm not even on Twitter.
00:18:23.800 And the story was number one on Twitter.
00:18:26.800 So content is king, to quote the Viacom chairman, late Viacom chairman, said content
00:18:31.800 is king.
00:18:32.800 If the visuals are shocking enough, they'll sort of effuse their way into all the different
00:18:37.800 mediums.
00:18:38.800 So the real mission is to get the stuff that's really going to shock people.
00:18:41.800 That's what you do very well.
00:18:43.800 And what I do and what others do.
00:18:45.800 And that's the mission.
00:18:46.800 But I will say this because there's so many people and they'll say, oh, you know, he's
00:18:50.800 just posting this for retweets.
00:18:51.800 He's just, you know, doing this.
00:18:53.800 They're just trying to make money.
00:18:54.800 They're trying to do this.
00:18:55.800 Look, I was just trying to make money.
00:18:57.800 I find lots of ways, lots of easier ways to make money.
00:18:59.800 Well, that's what all these alternative media companies are, when they're monetizing,
00:19:04.800 that's what they're doing.
00:19:05.800 It's so funny how people will always accuse you of that which they are guilty of.
00:19:09.800 Right.
00:19:10.800 Because that's the soup they swim in.
00:19:11.800 When someone makes an accusation, like an ad hominem, it's always because that's what
00:19:15.800 they actually think.
00:19:16.800 That's how they think.
00:19:17.800 They're actually telling you how they think.
00:19:18.800 They're telling you how, it's a psychological thing.
00:19:21.800 And we're actually a philanthropic news organization.
00:19:25.800 There's no, in my opinion, there's no business model for investigative reporting. 0.97
00:19:29.800 You have to be like a masochist or a sociopath.
00:19:32.800 You have to like pain to be an investigative reporter because some of our stories cost a 0.87
00:19:37.800 million dollars to do.
00:19:38.800 And we don't make a penny off them.
00:19:40.800 I don't settle lawsuits.
00:19:41.800 I subject myself to discovery and litigation.
00:19:43.800 I subject myself to jury trials.
00:19:45.800 I'm probably one of the only men you'll ever meet unless you, well, you were in the armed
00:19:50.800 forces.
00:19:51.800 So maybe you met a terrorist or a drug dealer or a sex trafficker once or twice.
00:19:57.800 But I'm probably the only man you'll ever know who's been put in handcuffs twice by the
00:20:01.800 FBI.
00:20:02.800 And I'm an American journalist.
00:20:04.800 That's a pretty extraordinary statement.
00:20:07.800 So, no, we're not, we haven't never made money doing this.
00:20:12.800 And I don't think if you're doing investigative work, investigative journalism, I don't think
00:20:17.800 you can because of how expensive the work is and how little profit there is in it.
00:20:23.800 And, you know, Twitter, trillion dollar company, Google, trillion dollar company.
00:20:26.800 I think I saw some stats on these new social media networks.
00:20:29.800 They're making like $7 million a year.
00:20:31.800 So you're not, it pales in comparison to the power they have.
00:20:34.800 You're going up against billionaires every day.
00:20:36.800 Billionaires, yeah.
00:20:37.800 That's the way you have to look at it.
00:20:38.800 If you don't understand that going into this, then you're not going to do well.
00:20:43.800 But there are some things more powerful than money.
00:20:45.800 Like, Laura Logan said this to me so poignantly.
00:20:48.800 She says, James, we're nothing.
00:20:49.800 I mean, I'm nothing.
00:20:50.800 I don't have any political power.
00:20:51.800 I don't want any political power.
00:20:53.800 I don't want to be an elected representative ever.
00:20:56.800 So we are nothing, but we're also not alone.
00:20:59.800 I would say that so many people agree with us, even inside these institutions.
00:21:04.800 See, this is what the other, whatever you want to call it, the establishment, you know,
00:21:09.800 that is one of their greatest tricks, is to make you feel isolated, atomized, individualized,
00:21:16.800 that I'm the only person who thinks this way, that I'm totally alone.
00:21:21.800 Look, I mean, we're here at CPAC.
00:21:22.800 We're at Turning Point.
00:21:24.800 Thousands and thousands of people are flocking to this now.
00:21:28.800 I mean, I've never seen it on an airplane.
00:21:30.800 The TSA guys, the Uber driver, the hairdresser.
00:21:32.800 Yeah.
00:21:33.800 Not even CPAC, because that's self-evident here, but I'm talking about the people that
00:21:37.800 you would never expect.
00:21:38.800 Right.
00:21:39.800 I mean, even the people in my apartment that morning, the FBI raided me.
00:21:42.800 It's hard to know the body language of a Fed, because they might be trying to pretend to be
00:21:46.800 something, but what struck me about their body language was four out of 10 of those agents
00:21:50.800 were almost like they were fans of market, but they were just following orders, right?
00:21:54.800 They were just following orders to, you know, my pension, my pension.
00:21:58.800 Well, there's some things more important than your pension, right?
00:22:02.800 And that's where we are right now.
00:22:03.800 And Veritas is a breeding ground for these people.
00:22:07.800 And I think you're going to see, I think you're going to see an explosion of truth-tellers
00:22:12.800 and whistleblowers, Jack, as people get pushed to the brink.
00:22:16.800 As we wrap things up, let us know and let everybody know where can we follow you, if
00:22:22.800 you're able to tell us anything you're working on, and what's next on the mission plan for
00:22:28.800 Veritas going into 22.
00:22:29.800 What isn't next?
00:22:30.800 I mean, I think the best place to follow us is actually Telegram, because you can download
00:22:34.800 the minute-long video.
00:22:35.800 Yeah.
00:22:36.800 And upload, I know you do that, like you do distribution by proxy.
00:22:39.800 So we'll send you the click-to-tweet link, and it'll automatically embed the video clip
00:22:45.800 into your Twitter.
00:22:48.800 What's coming is a lot more, we have an election coming up.
00:22:52.800 New.
00:22:53.800 So what we find is that politicians in swing states tend to mislead voters.
00:22:58.800 They tend to lie about what they actually believe in to get elected.
00:23:00.800 You'll see some of that.
00:23:02.800 You'll see some inside big media corporations.
00:23:04.800 We've got a big one coming out soon.
00:23:06.800 Just this morning we released a video, if you have not seen it, it's a 15 minute long
00:23:11.800 sort of Barbara Walters-style interview with a 25-year veteran of CNN who's come to work
00:23:16.800 for me.
00:23:17.800 Extraordinarily powerful interview that I encourage you to watch.
00:23:20.800 I mean, I love having the ability to pick the brain of someone who is in one of these
00:23:26.800 machines, and to understand how it works, how the gears move, what's the interplay, what
00:23:32.800 are the hydraulic pressure valves, you know, what do they care about, what's the actual,
00:23:37.800 and this is something we used to talk about in the intelligence community, but strategic
00:23:41.800 intent.
00:23:42.800 Yes.
00:23:43.800 And that's the only thing that you can get from another human being.
00:23:45.800 You can't get that from, you know, when you're in the military and you're trying to
00:23:48.800 say, you know, are they about to invade, you know, whoever it is.
00:23:52.800 Well, you can see it from the satellites.
00:23:54.800 You can see where they are, and signals, you know, that could be disinformation, but strategic
00:23:59.800 intent is what you get from human intelligence, and you can only get that from talking to trusted
00:24:04.800 sources.
00:24:05.800 That is correct, and if you have not seen this 15 minute interview that Patrick gave us
00:24:09.800 on YouTube, by the way, we're still on YouTube.
00:24:11.800 That might surprise people.
00:24:12.800 Why are you surprising?
00:24:13.800 Because we don't opine.
00:24:15.800 Again, we don't, I don't even make claims in our reports.
00:24:19.800 I just do the five W's, who, what, what, what, why.
00:24:22.800 And I'm usually quoting the authorized knowers, the FDA, Pfizer, CNN.
00:24:27.800 Like, I'm never quoting a conservative.
00:24:30.800 I'm quoting, I'm quoting the New York Times, Pfizer, CNN, all these people that they tell
00:24:34.800 you to, the experts.
00:24:35.800 Right.
00:24:36.800 I'm quoting the experts at the Pentagon.
00:24:38.800 So it's, so I think they're kind of, they're probably afraid that I'm going to sue
00:24:41.800 them and win because we haven't lost a lawsuit.
00:24:43.800 So I think there's some fear.
00:24:45.800 I think they're more afraid, Jack, of us than we are afraid of them.
00:24:49.800 I think that's actually a true statement.
00:24:52.800 And what they fear most is being, the thing about communists, and for lack of a better
00:24:57.800 word, that's what I'll call this modern issue that we're facing.
00:25:01.800 I think Whitaker Chambers wrote this in Witness, that the only thing that communists fear is
00:25:06.800 exposure.
00:25:07.800 They don't really fear government or death, but they fear someone.
00:25:12.800 They fear of being disinfected by that.
00:25:15.800 So let's go, let's go out and expose what's going on.
00:25:17.800 Let's get some people on the inside to be brave and do something.