Jack Posobiec is a commentator, international social media sensation, and former Navy intelligence veteran. He is also the son of Polish immigrants, and a proud Polish-American. He has been a long-time supporter of President Donald Trump, and is now the President of Poland.
00:01:17.880Remember, there is no people in this world that is more close to my heart than the Polish people.
00:01:26.740And I will always be fiercely proud of my Polish heritage.
00:01:31.840Together, the Polish people, the American people, and all people who love freedom will face every challenge and we will defeat every challenge.
00:01:48.560We will ensure that our children inherit a world where faith, family, and freedom reign supreme.
00:01:56.420And so I say to you, long live our unbreakable friendship.
00:02:04.100Poland, which has just held its pivotal presidential election, with all votes now counted, the right-wing historian Karol Nawrowski is Poland's new president.
00:02:24.440Karol Nawrowski is a traditional conservative Roman Catholic.
00:02:28.600He believes in strong sovereign Poland within the EU.
00:02:33.360He's also a big fan of President Trump.
00:02:35.860Karol Nawrowski, the former President of the United States of Poland.
00:03:36.300Last week, I was there in Poland, right in the most conservative spot of Poland along the Ukraine border, a city called Zhezhov, only a few miles away from the small town where the Posobiec family hails from and still lives in Poland.
00:03:52.980I wasn't just visiting, I wasn't just visiting, I was campaigning.
00:03:57.800I was walking up and down streets, met people, folks whose roots run even deeper than mine there, and I got to tell you, the air was electric.
00:04:09.200These people weren't just fighting for a candidate, they're fighting for the identity, their Christian faith, their Polish way of life.
00:04:17.820And of all the places I go, I'm not an outsider there, as a son of Poland, standing on the same soil that holds the blood of my ancestors.
00:04:31.180And when you see the people there, you see their eyes, the shopkeepers, the grandmothers, the farmers, they're done with the globalist promises, with the bureaucrats in Brussels trying to erase their borders and their values.
00:05:26.420Welcome to the second American revolution.
00:05:30.780All right, folks, Jack Posobiec here, back live, Human Events Daily.
00:05:38.800I'm back in the United States of America, the great U.S. of A.
00:05:46.340And I got to tell you, what a whirlwind trip.
00:05:48.320And it's always nice when you come home with a W.
00:05:51.340Folks, while the media is obsessing about Trump's latest press conference, something big is brewing.
00:05:57.560And nobody is talking about it except right here.
00:05:59.900Starting July 1st, 2025, under the Basel III International Banking Regulations, gold will officially be reclassified as a Tier 1 asset that puts it on the same level as cash in U.S. Treasuries.
00:08:06.500We're breaking out the kabbas, the kabbasi, the pierogies, the guamki.
00:08:12.360Kev, you remember when Nana used to make guamki at home and the entire house would just smell like tomatoes, like literally the whole weekend?
00:09:19.160And I love the, the, the work, uh, the partnership really between Real America's Voice and TV Republic, uh, of course.
00:09:27.060Um, uh, uh, Michael Rahon, of course, the work that we did to do the watch party back, if folks remember, on Inauguration Day, Jan 20th, that was TV Republica stepping up and did that along with our, our great friend, Dominic Tartinsky, the MEP from Law and Justice.
00:09:43.060Uh, Kevin, you were there last night at the election watch party with now president-elect Navrowski.
00:09:51.180Tell us a little bit, give us a little bit about the color.
00:09:53.700How did it see, how did it sound that night, uh, the election results kept coming in and these, these late breaking polls, you know, really made it seem as though this guy who everybody had counted out suddenly had the wind behind his sails and the, the hope of a nation really pushing him into and eventually giving him the presidency of Poland.
00:10:17.760Describe the night, uh, there at the election party.
00:10:20.140Well, I, I, I will say you talked about it, that the hope of the nation, it has this, uh, very eternal flame, not unlike, uh, JFK and his legacy, but, but yeah, the, so I say that because I was at the election party and, uh, you know, the videos playing there when I got to meet him on, on his way.
00:10:41.140Uh, but, so it seemed because nobody participated, not nobody, but, uh, Polish citizens were a bit reluctant to participate in the exit polls.
00:10:50.700So we didn't really have anything to go off of, and, and granted they are paper ballots, much less population than the United States.
00:10:57.740Uh, but yeah, honestly, the, the, the color, the energy was kind of, kind of blue, I will say.
00:11:04.500But, uh, inside is the eternal flame and the Polish people never give up their hope and faith in their country.
00:11:11.900And it just can't, continues on, continues on into the night, into the day.
00:11:18.200And, uh, around 3 a.m., I was, I was hanging out with the campaign, uh, campaign workers at a, at a private residence.
00:11:25.700And they were like, listen, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, hold on, folks.
00:12:23.000You know, it's it's it's it's awesome to see how much Poland has embraced the American pattern towards these campaigns.
00:12:31.500Well, Kevin, in in in some ways, and I understand, of course, that the election polls, the exit polls will still be coming out.
00:12:37.980I'd love to dig through some more of the of the data in terms of demography there.
00:12:42.340But are you seeing a rightward shift among the youth like we're seeing in the United States with Gen Z and where where we're starting to actually see some voters in the youth side turn out more for the right wing candidate and actually make a break with the left?
00:13:26.740That's, you know, rural blue collar Poland, southeast.
00:13:31.020That's, you know, very, very much for Nowrowski.
00:13:35.620And like I said, Warsaw is pretty liberal.
00:13:38.820I did go out on Saturday night and it was just a lot of not a lot of madness, but a lot of people partying.
00:13:44.960And they were not in the spirit to really answer.
00:13:48.900But but that's also because Poland has the election silence.
00:13:52.240And that was on my previous broadcast about they many people were not even able to rally or have campaigns two days before the second round on Sunday.
00:14:04.000So, yeah, the way they do that is so weird where you have to they call it the election silence, where it's basically this this way that to believe that, you know, that you've got to you've got to you've got to not be able to talk about the election.
00:15:31.400He's made it clear that he will be a problem for the prime minister, Donald Tusk.
00:15:35.760Jack Tusk is a pro-European centrist trying to follow through on his more progressive legislative agenda.
00:15:42.340But now Novrotsky says he will stop him in whichever way he can and cause as much gridlock until the next elections in 2027 so that his party, the Law and Justice Party, can sweep back into power.
00:15:55.280Donald Tusk will struggle to fulfill his promises like liberalizing the very strict abortion laws in Poland.
00:16:01.860And Poland, of course, is a key country for both NATO and the EU.
00:16:06.940And so for its allies, this is not good news.
00:16:09.560Novrotsky has criticized what he said was excessive interference in Polish affairs by the European Union.
00:16:35.260They're freaking out because they just found out that one of the things that's on the agenda right now, the Polish liberals have been trying to legalize abortion.
00:16:44.300So abortion, by the way, currently illegal in Poland.
00:16:48.480They've been, and it's always been illegal, by the way, since there's been Poland.
00:16:54.240They're trying to get it passed up to 12 weeks.
00:16:58.440And they just found out, oh, the new president, Novrotsky, he's going to, wait for it, veto the legislation.
00:17:06.640Abortion will remain illegal in Poland.
00:18:01.780I mean, what you see in America, what happens to these fetuses or children, but their bodies, you know, as they say.
00:18:12.440But, man, we don't – the way – the solution for all this is to keep it simple.
00:18:19.600People make fun of Polish people as being, like, dumb and simple.
00:18:22.340But really, some of these solutions, and thankfully through our faith, the Catholic faith, it can be that simple.
00:18:29.320It's in the catechism, for one, and just respecting life.
00:18:36.260We're a pro-life, pro-God, pro-family, you know, pro-2A in America.
00:18:41.940It can be that simple, and we can keep it that way.
00:18:44.800But Poland understands that clearly, and it's great to see Nowrowski leading the way right up front.
00:18:52.020You know, he's going to follow through on what he said, and it won't be hard to do either because, you know, we have so many people in support of him.
00:22:02.440And there was a period, actually, so belay my last, where abortion was legal and, in fact, permitted one of the most permissive in all of Europe at the time.
00:22:16.520So roughly 1945 to 1989, a 44-year period where abortion laws were liberalized under the Soviet regime.
00:22:27.120And in 1956, there was a law passed by that communist-backed regime in Poland.
00:22:33.580So the Soviet Union, the communists, wanted this to be allowed for the Poles.
00:22:39.460However, after the fall of communism, when Pope John Paul II came to Poland, worked for the fall of communism, abortion was made illegal yet again, with the exception of the three exceptions, the mother's life, fetal abnormalities, or pregnancy resulting from either crime or incest.
00:23:05.440And so it is still restricted, and they are now waiting for this to, and now it will continue to be restricted.
00:23:13.720And so, folks, the geopolitical implications of this are very, very serious because we've got Ukraine right next to Poland.
00:23:22.500That town, Zhezhov, where I spoke, is the key NATO checkpoint for all of the NATO supplies, or the vast majority of the NATO supplies that are going into Ukraine.
00:23:34.000And so this is why those supply lines are critical, and that's why Poland is a critical node for the defense-military-industrial complex going into Ukraine.
00:23:45.940And so I wanted to dig into quite a bit of this.
00:23:48.540Now, in fact, by the way, just so folks know, Nowrowski, when he won the first round of the Polish election, he then had to campaign for more right-wing votes.
00:23:58.520And when he did so, he said, number one, he signed a pledge saying, I will not permit Ukraine to enter NATO or to enter the EU and push for what peace with Russia on the talks of the Ukraine war.
00:24:14.460Now, we've got these competing peace agreements and demands out of Istanbul earlier today from both the Ukrainian side and the Russian side.
00:24:24.900Ukraine is asking for maximalist demands.
00:24:27.380They want to be allowed to stay in, or at least keep the right open, to stay in contention for a NATO membership.
00:24:33.940Russia, of course, flipping around and saying, absolutely not, no NATO.
00:24:38.120They're all asking for full recognition for Crimea, for Donetsk, Lugansk, Zaporizhia, and Kherson.
00:24:48.700So I wanted to break down all of these pieces that are walking through.
00:24:52.640And so we have Jack Montgomery from the National Polls.
00:25:05.720So we're looking at this incredible victory, stunning victory.
00:25:09.340And I want to ask you specifically the question of Ukraine.
00:25:12.500What role do you believe this played in the election in Poland yesterday?
00:25:18.700Well, you know, it's very difficult, the Ukraine issue, because I think when the war first started out, there was a great deal of sympathy for the Ukrainians.
00:25:26.320Of course, there is a big institutional memory here in Poland of the occupation, of the war, the Soviet soldiers.
00:25:37.160And after the annexation of Crimea in 2014, a great deal of Ukrainians came here.
00:25:47.140There are stories you hear about the troubles they're in back home.
00:25:50.020But as time has gone on, there has been a degree of losing patience with Ukraine.
00:25:56.900There have been difficulties between the Ukrainian and the Polish governments over, for example, flooding grain into the Polish market, which has been bad for the farmers here, especially bad for Law and Justice Party voters.
00:26:09.880And people do not want really to be dragged into a wider war.
00:26:15.920People know that NATO membership for Ukraine is effectively war with Russia.
00:26:21.580European Union membership for Ukraine may not be too far behind because there are mutual, they're weak, but there are mutual defense clauses in the European Union treaties that could theoretically drag the rest of the European Union into a general war.
00:26:37.060But, crucially, without United States backing, you know, because it would be quite apart from the NATO treaties.
00:26:44.200Now, that's not something Europe is equipped to handle, and it's not something most Europeans want.
00:26:48.600There's been a long time here where the economy has been struggling.
00:26:52.000There's been inflation connected to the war, the pandemic, the pandemic before that.
00:26:57.020And, of course, the cost of just looking after so many refugees, you know, a good, another good million across the border.
00:27:07.140And so I think that that really was something that was playing on people's minds as they went to the polls.
00:27:12.220Well, and this move to the right as well, I think, is significant because he had to pick up the support of the right-wing parties.
00:27:22.660For the American side of the audience here on Real America's Voice and the Salem Radio Network, that Poland, like most European countries, is a multi-party democracy.
00:27:31.720And so in the parliament, you need a coalition in order to maintain a majority.
00:27:38.900And so this coalition that actually won here, in a sense, that won the election, came through with the support of those other right-wing parties.
00:27:52.100Confederatria had said positive things, maybe not a full endorsement, but had said positive things about Nowrowski, another presidential candidate.
00:27:59.620Grigoris Braun had come out and did a full endorsement.
00:28:02.580And it really was these pledges and moving to the right on a few issues that I think allowed Nowrowski to pick up a lot of that support.
00:28:08.940And, in fact, Gen Z, in many ways, Jack, is picking up a lot of support for the right-wing as well.
00:28:16.740Now, it's similar to trends that we're seeing in the United States as well as Canada and the UK.
00:28:22.520Are you seeing that as well in some of the data?
00:28:25.400And I know it's still early, but I'd really love to see if we have any data on right-wing shift for Gen Z.
00:28:33.900Now, I don't have the data to hand, but from what I've been seeing, and this is a phenomenon we saw in the European elections recently as well in Poland,
00:28:41.580Confederation, which is a populist party for the most part to the right of Law and Justice, which is the party aligned with Nowrowski,
00:28:53.020they are now the most popular party among 18 to 39-year-olds, certainly among 18 to 39-year-old young men.
00:29:00.720Now, at the same time, there is a move towards the left among the youth, parties to the left of Czavskowski and Prime Minister Tusk's parties and wider coalition.
00:29:11.460But there's a strong rightward shift among the youth in Poland.
00:29:16.980And they broke also, once Confederacja was out of this race, for Nowrowski.
00:29:24.220So this is something, it's something very interesting to me as someone from Britain, because for a long time in Britain, you were really, you were looking into the abyss.
00:29:33.740You know, even if, you know, even if the notional right-wing in Britain was winning elections, it was usually with strong support from people who were middle-aged up to really pensioners,
00:29:44.780people who were much older, while the youth was becoming increasingly left-wing.
00:29:50.140Now, that has started to shift a bit with Nigel Farage and the Reform Party, but it's a very different situation, for the most part, in continental Europe.
00:29:59.300Populist parties and Nowrowski, the national conservatives, are popular in Poland.
00:30:05.420The Alternative for Germany party in Germany, the AFD, did very well among younger voters.
00:30:11.360And I think it's really, in some ways, it's a sign of the failure of the old kind of boomer political establishment, people who are not necessarily only on the left, but the establishment right-wing parties.
00:30:25.280Now, law and justice would fall into the category of establishment right in Poland, but the establishment right in Poland is much more conservative than the establishment right, certainly in Britain and France, and even to a great extent, certainly socially in America.
00:30:42.060So this is a real shift, a real signal that Andrew Breitbart was correct when he said politics is downstream from culture, because I think this has been driven by a shift in the culture.
00:30:52.580I think that's right, and I think as well, it has to be said that in the same way that the generations, and we see this in Poland as well, where there's a shift in the way the generations receive their news in the way that they vote as well.
00:31:10.420So you'll typically see a lot of the older set that watches a lot of cable, that watches a lot of corporate television, and reads corporate newspapers, they tend to be more liberal, or in the Polish context, you would call it globalist.
00:31:27.320Whereas in, as with the younger set, you're on social media more, you're listening to podcasts more, you're listening, I'm told there's quite a few Human Events Daily listeners in Poland, so shout out to those guys if you happen to be listening to this.
00:31:41.340But the younger you are, the more, I think, diversified your viewpoints are that you're receiving through social media to get your news, and it ends up making people tend to be more right-wing.
00:31:52.880And we're seeing that across the West right now, aren't we?
00:32:00.100A real phenomenon, a real problem we've had on the right, broadly speaking, across the West, for decades really, but certainly for recent years,
00:32:08.840is people have not been satisfied with what the right-wing establishment has been offering them, whether that's the GOP or the British Conservatives, the Tories, the almost completely now destroyed French Republicans, parties like this.
00:32:29.020But they've always been able to keep people in line, particularly older people, by saying, well, really, I mean, but if you don't vote for us, then the other guys are going to get back in, the left's going to get back in.
00:32:39.940So it's us or nothing, you know, a bit like if there's any Orwell fans in your audience, you might remember Squealer, the little propagandist pig on Animal Farm,
00:32:48.540who would always keep the animals in line, no matter how bad things got, by saying, yes, yes, times are tough, comrades, but if you don't muckle under, if you don't back us, Farmer Jones will come back.
00:33:00.040And that's what the establishment, right, has been able to do for a very long time, very long time, really, across the Western world, until now.
00:33:08.940You know, until now, you have these news organizations like the National Pulse, like Human Events, you have these social media characters that are able to push out an alternative message, a different message, a different vision for conservatism, for the right, and it's able to reach a great deal of people.
00:33:25.860And so that has forced, of course, it's allowed people who are genuinely, genuine national conservatives, populists, to rise, but it's also forced people who maybe would not like to go along with that rise,
00:33:40.700thinking perhaps people in the Senate, GOP, and elsewhere, to take account of their views and to stop pamming them off, telling them, well, I mean, this is all you're going to get.
00:33:50.040We're just coming up to the end of our segment. Where can people go to get more from you at the National Pulse?
00:33:55.860You can go to thenationalpulse.com to subscribe to us, and you can see me on X, Jack E. Montgomery.
00:34:05.960All right, from one Jack to another. Appreciate you being on. Go follow the National Pulse, folks. Jack Posobiec, right back. Big break.
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00:34:22.020And he's been my friend right from the beginning of this whole beautiful event.
00:34:25.860And we're going to turn it around and make sure it's actually great to get to you. Amen.
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00:35:17.660From July 11th through 13th in Tampa, Florida.
00:35:59.860Unfortunately, though, this came as the same day as massive riots in Paris, as killing took place in the night, as things got completely out of hand, as cheers for the European Championship League victory, which Paris won, turned into something far more sinister.
00:36:24.240And I was out on the streets with Tanya and the little boys, and I just, I got to say, I said, I have a bad feeling.
00:37:03.640But Paris isn't Paris anymore, as President Trump has told us, and it needs to be fixed.
00:37:11.340And that potentially played a role even in the Polish elections that we're talking about here because that happened just the night before Poland went to the ballot box.
00:37:20.500And you never know in these small, these very small, these very small margin races.
00:37:29.320And, of course, CPAC Poland coming is when it did an absolute victory for the entire group there.
00:37:35.200But over in Istanbul, I mentioned this earlier, that there were some reports coming out regarding proposals from the Russians and the Ukrainians.
00:37:43.840And so Russia has come out and says, look, we want to end the war.
00:37:48.660And they're talking about those four districts that they want.
00:38:42.740Schedule parliamentary and presidential elections no longer than 100 days after the end of martial law.
00:38:49.080And, by the way, this attack, which took place over the weekend, Ukraine claims that they struck 41 Russian strategic bombers.
00:38:57.820Russia claims it was a much smaller number, maybe in the single digits.
00:39:01.320And also that many of the bombers are still operational.
00:39:05.220Of course, you know, we'll have to remain deceived for the battle damage assessment there.
00:39:08.580But the ability of the Ukrainians to conduct an attack like this is raising a lot of questions as to say, how could they have done this on their own?
00:39:16.580How could they have done this without satellite imagery?
00:39:19.600There's only one country that Ukraine is partnered with that has the satellite imagery that's able to do that.
00:39:26.860And that's the United States of America.
00:39:28.320Now, is it possible that UK could have provided it?
00:39:31.760Perhaps, but far more likely that US satellite imagery would allow for the real-time locating of the positions of these bombers, where they were, when they would be there, knowing at a time that they would be vulnerable for attack like this.
00:39:46.280On the flip side, the Ukrainians now, in their ceasefire demands, and peace demands, they're asking for full guarantees of Ukraine's right to join the EU and NATO, the right to Ukraine to station foreign troops on its territory, all Russian gains after February 2014 will not be recognized,
00:40:07.440and that frozen Russian state assets will be used for the restoration of Ukraine, essentially given to Ukraine.
00:40:15.400This is a situation where they are asking for land to be returned to them when they are effectively the ones who are actually not on the winning side of this war.
00:40:28.060Folks, all of this is what President Trump needs to get into.