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00:00:50.940 Jack Posobiec. Christ is king. All right, Jack Posobiec, we're here on live human events daily.

00:00:58.580 I want to go on the ground now to Dublin, Ireland, where Kevin Posobiec is there with a crowd of Irish patriots.

00:01:04.680 Kevin, tell us what's going on and who you're with. So we're out front of the Dáil right now,

00:01:10.920 and I'm here with a group of Irish patriots here. Fortunately, they just passed to uphold confidence

00:01:16.320 in this corrupt government i think it was 92 to 78 votes but um we're still out here you know

00:01:23.620 there's people all around all the streets are blocked off and we're protesting these fuel spikes

00:01:28.180 these excise taxes these vat taxes the irish people are banded together this is across party

00:01:35.080 lines it doesn't really matter if it's you're on the left or the right there's no farmers there's

00:01:40.140 no food so these are all hard-working people you know their standards are strong yeah show us the

00:01:46.720 crowd yes show us the folks so so you guys have anything to say have you been here for the third

00:01:54.140 test earlier yeah we came in big numbers this morning uh we're blocked on the roads coming in

00:01:59.000 the irish government is 100 wrong just to turn the army on the irish people last week

00:02:03.060 like you just don't do it yes they had the army come in to try and take these people out on sunday

00:02:08.860 over on O'Connell's statue on the bridge there.

00:02:11.420 They're impossible for small businesses

00:02:13.140 to survive in this contract.

00:02:14.680 That's right.

00:02:15.280 The small business, the grassroots,

00:02:16.980 there aren't unions.

00:02:18.160 You know, they're kind of protecting.

00:02:19.460 They got a deal for the fuel,

00:02:21.120 but these are all, you know, blue-collar workers.

00:02:23.680 You're talking about American workers.

00:02:25.680 And what do they want, Kevin?

00:02:27.300 What do they want?

00:02:28.840 What do you guys want?

00:02:30.100 Well, ultimately, at the end of the day,

00:02:32.560 a fair trial.

00:02:34.320 You know, like the price of heating oil

00:02:36.060 has gone from 105 to 182 three months now i'm young i'm working i can afford to put in a couple

00:02:43.720 of extra shifts and i can do that for retired people who've given 40 years of their life

00:02:48.000 they're on a fixed income they've got a choice now food on their table or heat in their house

00:02:54.000 that's a difficult choice to make for anybody so this is for me that's what this protest was about

00:03:00.160 We went out, we blocked the roads

00:03:01.440 The other day, one of the main archeries coming into Dublin

00:03:06.060 Myself and a couple of friends, we blocked the road

00:03:08.100 17 out of 20 people who were coming up

00:03:12.280 Were papping the horns and giving them thumbs up

00:03:14.240 We were sending them in the wrong direction

00:03:15.820 We weren't sending them in the wrong direction

00:03:17.360 We were moving them on the old road

00:03:19.400 But they didn't care because they knew we were there for a cause

00:03:22.600 Now, 13 vehicles

00:03:24.580 There was five Garda car came up to move us on

00:03:29.200 right now the numbers that were staggering if i have a problem and i phone for a guard a car

00:03:36.820 could take three hours for trying but that day they were less than half an hour now we were

00:03:41.640 asked to move there was no there was no violence the guards were perfectly respectable to us are

00:03:48.580 you happy to move we're not happy to move but we'll do what we were asked that's it so as i

00:03:54.460 Every turn on the motorway on the way up

00:03:57.480 That was blocked

00:03:58.140 That was blocked by guards

00:03:59.700 The guards were showing the presence

00:04:01.460 Give them a week or a fortnight

00:04:03.560 And I guarantee you

00:04:05.380 They'll be all going back in

00:04:06.460 As you guys in America would say

00:04:07.800 Eating donuts

00:04:08.340 Where do we go from here?

00:04:12.260 They're doing with the light now

00:04:13.660 The fact that they got through this today

00:04:15.700 They can't call a vote for six months again

00:04:18.600 It can be a very long six months

00:04:20.620 We protest

00:04:20.980 We still pay their wages

00:04:23.200 we need to get home but she's not right and it's not just about the fuel it's the overpopulation

00:04:29.180 housing crisis it's the health service it's ipas it's a whole lot of things that are an issue

00:04:42.400 money going out of the country we are struggling we need support over government by a government

00:04:48.900 who cares there's loads of money there rich there's loads of money there yeah

00:04:54.740 we're allowed to make money we have plenty of money for everyone else can i just say another

00:05:02.340 thing okay sure yes tuesday we have special things to be doing on a tuesday

00:05:09.380 for our livelihood for our children's livelihood and for the future of the generation we have

00:05:14.420 These are a majority of farmers, they have crops to look after, animals to look after.

00:05:20.980 And Kevin, who's the government putting the priority on right now?

00:05:25.040 Is it the migrants that have come in, or is it the farmers and the working class of Ireland?

00:05:34.320 Well, it seems that the government upheld the confidence in their taxes, which would include IPAS centres and...

00:05:44.420 All right, folks, a little bit of a signal issue there coming all the way from Dublin, Ireland. 0.94

00:05:50.620 But there's incredible footage of Kevin Posobiec and the workers of Ireland, the fishermen of Ireland, the farmers of Ireland, family farmers, families that have farmed their land for generation upon generation only to have the government of Brussels come in and hand it over to third world Algerians and Somalians and migrants, give them all the money. 0.55

00:06:13.480 And then when the fuel shortages come is in because of the Strait of Hormuz, it's all intrinsically connected, all connected. 0.84

00:06:21.540 When the fuel shortages hit, who does the government go to bail out? 1.00

00:06:24.720 They bail out the migrants. 1.00

00:06:26.100 They bail out the strangers, the strangers from foreign lands. 0.97

00:06:30.660 Those are the ones that are bailed out. 0.83

00:06:31.980 But who are the ones that are not given a cent, not a penny?

00:06:35.940 To the Irish farmer, to the Irish worker.

00:06:38.160 And that is why the farmers of Ireland, that's why the people of Ireland, they have had enough.

00:06:45.660 They called it the last straw.

00:06:47.780 It's the last straw.

00:06:48.800 You've handed away our sovereignty.

00:06:51.360 You've handed away our lands. 0.98

00:06:52.940 In many cases, women, children raped and murdered the daughters of Ireland. 0.99

00:06:59.000 And now to hand away their livelihood.

00:07:01.800 Farmers who may have to sell their lands, their family's land because of all this, because of Brussels.

00:07:07.180 they've had enough and that's why the protests will continue in Ireland. Jack Posobiec right

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00:09:08.300 844-577-7676 well folks after we finished the show yesterday and you may have seen this online

00:09:16.460 i'm sure you've seen the news by now congressman eric swalwell has punched his ticket he is out

00:09:25.400 He has resigned from Congress after a video or I suppose you could say a series of videos posted by Martin Shkreli and myself this past weekend.

00:09:39.380 videos that show him in what appears to be in bed with a woman that is not his wife and

00:09:49.540 a woman who was later identified on an escort site and just very disturbing behavior that

00:10:00.960 was seen from what appears by all accounts to be this individual.

00:10:06.180 And so, you know, the fact that you're seeing all this, it speaks to a wider climate in our Congress.

00:10:13.900 And I've said from the start, I said from the start that if anyone else who's been in one of these situations or if you're a staffer who feels that you're restricted by an NDA or you want to come forward or remain anonymous, reach out to human events.

00:10:35.840 reach out to me and I'll get you in touch with Harmeet Dillon at DOJ. I'll get you in touch with

00:10:40.960 the proper authorities. If you want to go that route, we'll be able to get information out like

00:10:46.200 this. The email is 1776 at humanevents.com. 1776 at humanevents.com. Come forward. I don't care

00:10:56.540 a party it is. Republican, Democrat, I don't care. If people are up to stuff like this,

00:11:05.140 and believe me, we know they are. And there are more videos. And we are working diligently

00:11:13.060 to obtain those videos, to verify them, and then present them to you. Because this isn't

00:11:20.860 just about one person. It's about a corrupt culture. It's about the toxic swamp. And there

00:11:27.680 was someone who warned us about this culture of corruption and about the moral and personal

00:11:34.440 corruption. A couple of years ago, people laughed at him. People mocked him. People said he was

00:11:40.320 wrong. It was that it's not possible. His name, former Congressman Madison Cawthorne, and he has

00:11:48.800 been absolutely vindicated on this. Madison Cawthorn joins us now. Madison, what is your

00:11:59.000 reaction to seeing these videos and just the last 24 hours, 48 hours of the flurry of information

00:12:07.000 because it's not about just about Eric Swalwell. We've now seen Tony Gonzalez and the talk of the

00:12:14.000 town is that there are other shoes that will shortly be dropping. Well, Jack, I'll tell you,

00:12:20.380 it seems like I'm having a flashback to my time spent in Congress. And, you know, I came out and

00:12:25.840 said what was going on inside of Washington, D.C., something that I assumed was common knowledge all

00:12:31.080 across America, which rightfully so it is. But the swamp did what the swamp always does. They

00:12:36.840 systematically targeted and attacked. You know, the swamp is so accustomed. The uniparty, I'm

00:12:42.100 talking about both sides of the aisle, is so accustomed to patriots getting elected to Congress,

00:12:46.940 getting there for the first time, and then them realizing, oh, this is too big of a problem for

00:12:52.320 me to tackle on my own. I really am not going to be able to get anything done. And these people

00:12:56.220 are offering me power. They're offering me position. They're offering me money. Why would

00:13:00.160 I try and mess up this apple cart? Obviously, this wave's going to crash. I might as well just ride

00:13:04.640 it as long as I can. I called the swamp out. And then when leadership called me into the office,

00:13:09.980 and said, hey, listen, we can make sure you have a swimming primary. Everything's going to go

00:13:14.040 great. You'll have a great election. We just need you to be a team player. I held my ground and I

00:13:19.800 said no. And you saw exactly what happened. They unleashed all hell upon me trying to destroy my

00:13:26.260 name, trying to destroy the reputation of myself and the reputation of my family. But even that

00:13:31.240 wouldn't stick, Jack. It wasn't enough. So then they changed my state constitution to then go in

00:13:36.980 and redraw my congressional district to give me a very moderate, easily confused and easily

00:13:42.980 manipulated district. Why did they do this, Jack? Because they wanted to cover up the sexual

00:13:47.760 perversion and the drugs that are being done inside of Washington, D.C. And Jack, I don't

00:13:52.700 have to wait for vindication that came just now when we saw Tony Gonzalez have everything that

00:13:58.340 came out with him. What happened to Eric Swallow, which has been the fact that it hasn't come out

00:14:02.560 earlier is insane because he sleeps with Chinese spies. But really, just mere months after I was

00:14:07.760 ousted out of office by members of our own party and on the other side of the aisle,

00:14:12.400 then we saw sex tapes coming out of staffers videotaping themselves inside of the Senate 0.88

00:14:18.200 hearing chambers. And then we find cocaine inside of the White House. This kind of behavior inside

00:14:24.360 of Washington, D.C. is pervasive. I thought it was disgusting. I thought the American people

00:14:28.760 needed to know. And this swamp destroyed me for it. And that's why I'm coming back with a vengeance.

00:14:34.740 Well, and Madison, we see these, you know, the videos that Martin and myself released. There's

00:14:40.600 also, I think the New York post has a video, this yacht party that's running around. And

00:14:46.520 these are videos that were out there. These were guys. And here's what gets me on this. All right.

00:14:51.960 Here's what gets me on this. It's, it's not just the videos being there, but just that,

00:14:55.540 what is this culture? What is this culture of our highest elected officials that this is what

00:15:01.460 they're doing behind closed doors? And they don't seem to be trying to hide this very much. They

00:15:07.440 don't seem to be bothered by this very much. Help me to try to understand what it's like

00:15:12.900 when you're sitting there in a seat like that. And then you find out that this is what's going

00:15:18.840 on after hours. Well, I'll tell you, you're kind of walked through something when you start talking

00:15:25.300 to your staff about it, you know, the rumor mill starts going up saying, oh, well, you

00:15:28.860 know, Madison Cawthorne said this, or this person's thinking about ousting this person

00:15:32.320 for that.

00:15:33.180 And then you're kind of, you know, by third party and by proxy, you're letting know that,

00:15:38.400 hey, if this happens, you're going to be sued for this.

00:15:41.300 You're going to be sued for that.

00:15:42.480 You're going to be attacked for this.

00:15:44.060 You know, maybe you've got a speeding ticket here, or then we're going to call your governor

00:15:48.060 and have your state police try and give you tickets every second that you can.

00:15:52.760 They're going to make your life very, very difficult. And I live a pretty great life. I have an amazing family. My friends are really true and loyal friends. So I felt pretty untouchable. I'm financially extremely secure, blessedly so. The only thing not going for me is the fact that I can't really stand up.

00:16:09.420 aside from that i've got a golden life but even me they were able to attack so ferociously and so

00:16:16.280 aggressively and they wanted to use me as somebody that said hey this is somebody who can talk to

00:16:21.200 millions of people with the press of a button he gets more news and more press coverage than

00:16:25.420 anybody else inside of congress he speaks at all the major events he's you know a superstar within

00:16:30.220 the maga movement and if we can take him down imagine what we can do to you and that is

00:16:35.760 essentially what the environment is like inside of Washington, D.C. And, you know, you ask yourself,

00:16:41.780 well, obviously, if that was the case, so many people would stand up. My friends, look at the

00:16:46.740 country we've lived in for the last eight decades, you know, whether it's because of outside influence

00:16:52.700 coming from super PACs, whether it's because of, you know, the threat of illegal action being

00:16:58.000 carried out against you for slandering somebody's name, or whether that's the actual threat of them

00:17:03.320 trying to take your seat away from you for many people this is the greatest job that these people

00:17:07.920 have ever had it's the first time they've ever felt like they were cool and funny in their entire

00:17:12.080 life and so they're trying to do everything they can to not upset the apple cart and then if it's

00:17:18.680 they're not going to be able to threaten somebody when it comes to carrot to sticks then they'll

00:17:22.640 offer them carrots they'll say well wouldn't you like this subcommittee chairmanship imagine all

00:17:27.500 the goods you could do if you didn't take this one guy down because he was just having a little

00:17:32.040 fun. And now, listen, I'm a guy's guy. I like to go have a good time. I like smoking a cigar and

00:17:36.480 having the appropriate amount of drinks and having a good time with my friends. But it's very

00:17:40.680 different when you are somebody who's inside of Washington, D.C., who is married and who's out, 0.90

00:17:45.560 you know, just gallivanting with women. And, you know, Eric Swalwell, listen, that looks a lot like

00:17:51.000 hookers in the bed with him with to me. And I think that should include some criminal prosecution. 0.96

00:17:55.820 But I'll leave that up to the DOJ. Well, and I mean, look, it's it's real simple. And we got a

00:18:01.380 quick break coming up. But look, I'm not in Congress, but, you know, I work eight hours a

00:18:06.180 day, sometimes 12 hours a day, sometimes more. I don't have time to be away from family out at

00:18:11.980 clubs or on the yachts and doing all this. And yet here comes this congressman who's paid by

00:18:19.000 the taxpayer to do his job and he gets to live the life while, you know, he's supposed to be

00:18:25.540 serving while the rest of us, you know, we're over here working. They're treating it like

00:18:29.780 an 18 year old on campus they're not in college for the education and you know you guys you're

00:18:35.520 not in congress to to do that you are there to serve you're there to serve the people when you

00:18:41.640 stand up and put your name on a ballot you are doing that for the people of your district

00:18:48.300 and instead that unfortunately i think this confirms so many people's view of what actually

00:18:55.480 goes on in Washington, D.C., and in these circles, which you, of course, talked about and rang the

00:19:02.340 alarm bells about several years ago. Right back, Jack Posobiec, Real America's Voice, Human Events

00:19:08.660 Daily. You talk about influencers. These are influencers, and they're friends of mine.

00:19:18.540 Jack Posobiec. Where's Jack? Jack. He's done a great job.

00:19:25.480 all right folks back live real america's voice human events today we're talking about the fall

00:19:32.060 of swalwell but also this culture of corruption moral corruption and decay in washington dc and

00:19:37.700 it's it's shocking in the sense that everybody seemed to kind of know about this and yet you

00:19:43.060 know we don't usually get video confirmation the way that we have with congressman eric swalwell

00:19:48.220 here but madison cawthorne we're on with you and you've talked about this openly and you took

00:19:52.740 uh furious uh slings and arrows when you did talk to us you know what's it like you're you're in

00:19:59.140 congress and and then you get invited to something like this you hear about this what's the reputation

00:20:03.860 of these types of things how does it start normally i mean the way i found that these

00:20:09.980 things start getting taken off the ground is that you know it starts out you're just at maybe a

00:20:14.700 donor dinner or you're getting dinner after a late night of votes and then you know you everyone has

00:20:18.860 friends inside of congress so you start hanging out with friends and then maybe you grab a drink

00:20:22.720 or you're on the way back to Capitol Hill, or you go heading back to your homes.

00:20:26.440 And then, you know, you start building these relationships.

00:20:29.200 And then, you know, most congressmen like to hang out with other congressmen

00:20:33.080 just because there's so many problems when you hang out with either staffers

00:20:35.960 or there's people with different angles in other parts of the Beltway.

00:20:40.420 And I will tell you, normally, the way that I came across this

00:20:44.360 is that people started inviting me and saying, hey, why don't you come back?

00:20:47.140 And, you know, my wife would love to hang out with you.

00:20:48.800 And we could see what could be going on here.

00:20:50.240 and you know i think we'd have a really good time if we all got together in this way and then you

00:20:55.300 just started piecing together you say well wait a minute what kind of invitation are you inviting

00:21:02.100 me here this sounds really weird what what do you mean leave my phone at the house that doesn't make

00:21:06.400 any sense all these random things they're saying and it becomes very clear that you know they're

00:21:10.900 looking that that's the big one is just hey you know check your phone at the door that kind of

00:21:16.140 thing and you know i had no interest in anything like that i've got a phenomenal life you know i

00:21:20.020 was I was only 25 years old when I was in Congress. And so that interested me not whatsoever. But,

00:21:25.260 you know, I thought that the majority of people inside of the United States of America were

00:21:29.000 very cognizant of that. And so I came out and talked about it. And they tried to destroy me

00:21:35.020 for it. And I'll tell you, there were 16 people that, you know, I really hold responsible for

00:21:40.440 the people that were the architects of trying to take down my political career. And I want you to

00:21:45.880 ask yourselves out of all the people who notably came out against me or who, you know, sent funds

00:21:51.360 to make sure that I was pushed out of Congress, ask yourself, where are those people now? And I'm

00:21:56.360 very happy that I was able to take the majority of them down or the majority of them are now out

00:22:00.460 of office or have terrible personal lives at this point. But I will tell you, you know, there are so

00:22:05.640 many people inside of Washington, DC that have much worse on them than what's going on inside

00:22:10.100 of this video. And normally it's used so that people can hold this over their head for certain

00:22:14.220 kind of votes. I mean, you know, whether it's a honeypot operation or whatever it is, but in the

00:22:18.740 most circumstances, and this is something that I would tell anybody when they get elected to

00:22:22.760 Congress is, you know, Hey, you are not that funny. You do not just randomly get significantly

00:22:27.140 more attractive. If you were in some normal town in the middle of, you know, good old heartland

00:22:32.860 of America and three outrageous looking, you know, tens walk up to you and say, Hey, we'd like to

00:22:38.540 have a foursome. I promise you are not that funny and you are not that attractive. They are there 0.59

00:22:42.700 to hold leverage over you. And that is what's going on. That's what these people get caught up

00:22:46.840 in. And so then I, this is, you know, what I, what I have seen from a lot of other members of

00:22:51.660 Congress is that once they get caught in these kinds of rings of people holding this over their

00:22:56.280 head, they said, well, you know, if this is being held over my head, might as well just go ahead

00:23:00.000 and go out and have a good time. And so then they start willfully going out and doing this. Now,

00:23:04.240 I don't know if normally they're out there trying to solicit, you know, prostitutes and things like 0.60

00:23:09.440 that. I had no experience witnessing anything like that, but I do know that there is a lot

00:23:14.020 of sexual perversion, a lot of people who do not care about the rings they wear on their left hands.

00:23:19.260 I mean, it sounds like the Diddy freak offs, right? So that's, that's such a good point.

00:23:23.920 I never even thought about it that way, that it doesn't start with the first video, but once the

00:23:28.420 first video is already, you know, in the cloud or, or, you know, on the, you know, in the archive,

00:23:34.560 it's like, well, you know, might as well just cut loose because what's the, what's the point?

00:23:39.160 So he just gets worse and worse and worse.

00:23:41.720 And that's, that's what they say.

00:23:43.240 You know, you never get caught the first time you get caught the 12th time, you get caught

00:23:46.500 the 13th time, whatever it is.

00:23:48.700 And that's what creates this culture.

00:23:51.600 And, and that's so fascinating as well, that the idea that, you know, they're doing this

00:23:57.520 together and yet that really raises a lot of questions that I certainly have.

00:24:02.340 And a lot of people have about this video and about these types of parties that if he's

00:24:07.000 going out there, is he perhaps the only congressman who's going to be there or friend or Democrat

00:24:14.240 elected official that he would be with? Because you would want to go out to party with other

00:24:20.040 people who are already in the club, people who already have that sort of mark on them.

00:24:26.740 And I'm sure, and I'll just ask, you know, I'm certainly hearing there's a lot of names being

00:24:31.460 thrown around right now about people who he was out with. I'm not asking you to confirm or say

00:24:36.440 any of those names. Obviously we're, you know, we're, we're abiding by a defamation law in here

00:24:41.360 and all that, but I'm sure you're hearing it just as much as I am, especially after you've

00:24:45.720 been so vindicated. Absolutely. And you know, I'll tell you, you start looking at the normal

00:24:51.880 kind of person who is inside of Washington DC. And I think Eric Swallow is an excellent example

00:24:56.340 of this. Does he come across as somebody who is just naturally extremely confident or does he

00:25:01.380 come across as somebody who's trying to be a high achiever because he is internally extremely

00:25:06.340 self-conscious. That's the normal member of Congress. That's the normal archetype I found.

00:25:11.060 And so these people are very terrified of going out there and being alone. And so of course they

00:25:16.120 want to have strength in numbers and they feel like, well, you know, nothing could be going

00:25:19.440 wrong if I'm with three other congressmen. And that's how sin always works. But anybody who

00:25:24.320 is surprised by this, listen, I told you this was going on in Washington, D.C. The swamp attacked

00:25:29.760 me for it. And many people said, oh, gosh, someone on the news said this about, you know,

00:25:34.740 this person it must be true listen judge people by who their enemies are if the swamp is attacking

00:25:42.900 somebody if they're being subpoenaed by the biden doj if they're being attacked by the mainstream

00:25:48.040 media just know that person is probably your friend and it's someone who's fighting for you

00:25:53.660 and that is why the swamp is trying to destroy them and listen you know jack i know you know

00:25:58.700 this i know you're probably getting a lot of stuff into your tip lines but if people don't

00:26:02.260 want to start playing ball start leaving office you know i've already taken out a significant

00:26:05.760 number of my opponents but there's a lot of videos out there and those of you who know what i'm

00:26:10.480 talking about you know what i mean you know who you are and i just highly recommend that you do

00:26:15.580 the right thing and go ahead and do the right thing do the right thing you know 100 madison

00:26:20.940 cawthorne where can people go to follow you you know what just my name madison cawthorne you know

00:26:26.460 i had a forefather a long time ago he was joining the marines there wasn't enough room on the forum

00:26:30.700 to fit the last E.

00:26:32.240 So it's Cawthorn with no E.

00:26:33.680 So just find me

00:26:34.380 on any of the social medias.

00:26:35.680 Running for Congress right now

00:26:36.880 in Florida's 19th district.

00:26:38.380 We're dominating the primary.

00:26:39.820 Looking forward to going back

00:26:40.720 to Washington, D.C.

00:26:41.580 because it's time to start

00:26:42.760 seeing people resigning

00:26:43.700 from Congress

00:26:44.280 and seeing powerful people

00:26:45.700 in handcuffs.

00:26:47.300 Well, you know what they say,

00:26:48.320 Madison, Godspeed to you.

00:26:49.720 And hey, keep on rolling, buddy.

00:26:52.200 Thanks, brother.

00:26:55.180 I'll talk to you.

00:26:56.000 Madison Cawthorn,

00:26:56.740 he's a truth teller, folks.

00:26:58.000 A truth teller.

00:27:00.700 jack where's jack where is he jack i want to see you

00:27:08.060 great job jack thank you what a job you do you know we have an incredible thing we're always

00:27:15.540 talking about the fake news and the bad but we have guys and these are the guys should be getting

00:27:20.480 policies. All right, folks, Jack Sobek back live here. Real America's voice, human events daily.

00:27:32.500 And I mean, I'm just my head is reeling from hearing Madison Cawthorn just come on here and

00:27:39.360 expose how it's done, how it happens, that that line that he said about how they find people in

00:27:47.880 these towns across America who aren't necessarily that funny or attractive or successful on their

00:27:55.120 own. And they bring them to D.C. and then they throw tens at them and it gives them leverage

00:28:00.580 and it gives them control. My goodness, it you know, it's it's that's is that actually how our

00:28:08.900 system of government works? And I want to bring on here because we want to talk the psychology

00:28:12.720 of this and not just for Eric Swalwell, but against this pervasive culture of corruption

00:28:18.600 that we're seeing in D.C. because Dr. Chloe Carmichael has written so much about this and

00:28:24.080 she's an absolute expert on it. Dr. Chloe, how are you? Hey, Jack, it's so good to be with you.

00:28:29.560 And that sounded like a super interesting conversation there with you and Madison

00:28:33.680 Cawthorn. Well, so here's thank you. And here's the line that I wanted to get into that this this

00:28:38.780 bit about what is that psychological switch that you take someone as as Madison Cawthorn was saying

00:28:44.580 there who maybe wasn't so successful you know they're not particularly that funny or or you

00:28:51.180 know attractive in real life and then they bring them to DC or they bring them out on these trips

00:28:56.380 and now suddenly you're you know you're a world leader and you're you're going on congressional

00:29:01.040 delegations to far-flung regions and you've got these girls who come up to you who are you know

00:29:07.620 super attractive and suddenly they're interested in you in a way that girls weren't interested in

00:29:11.700 high school and college what is the psychology there that they're using to and when i say they

00:29:18.420 i mean that you know special interests and others lobbyist groups and you know in many cases um

00:29:23.300 and others perhaps even you know obviously i know a lot about this from the intelligence community

00:29:27.740 because this is you know something that comes up quite a bit um and they use that same line

00:29:31.780 but what is this psychology what is the psychological maneuvering that they're using

00:29:36.080 to basically entrap someone like this.

00:29:38.520 Yes, Jack, it's super interesting.

00:29:40.520 There's a couple of psychology points there.

00:29:43.400 One, you may or may not know this,

00:29:45.900 but it's actually been demonstrated

00:29:47.760 that men's IQ points will literally drop

00:29:53.160 when they're in the presence

00:29:55.000 of a super, super attractive woman.

00:29:58.800 You know, in part, it could have to do with-

00:30:00.440 Wait, wait, wait.

00:30:00.460 So by the way, Dr. Chloe,

00:30:01.740 I have to say, I have to say right there.

00:30:03.980 See, and because I know Tanya Tay,

00:30:05.720 my wife is watching. See, sweetheart, this is how I can be so smart on air. But then when I get

00:30:10.900 around you, it just all falls apart. It all falls apart. And she says, why can't you just say the

00:30:16.500 right thing? It's because my IQ drops when I'm around you, sweetheart. Yes. And I love Tay-Tay's

00:30:22.540 posts, by the way. I follow her on X as well. So Tay-Tay, if you're watching, you got a big fan

00:30:27.280 right here. So yes, it is true, Jack, to your point, when you have those dropping IQ points,

00:30:35.720 When that mental awareness, that sharpness, that focus, in fact, again, even just where the blood is literally going in the body versus the brain, those men are not making their sharpest decisions.

00:30:48.180 Moreover, there's something else that's interesting, which is on a personality trait level, we all have a need for nurturance or a need sometimes even for power in a positive way.

00:31:01.220 It can be an interest in oftentimes in politics, in, you know, running things and creating

00:31:06.600 systems for people.

00:31:08.180 The dark side of that, however, can just become a need for power and a need for control.

00:31:14.920 And so that can absolutely be manipulated, as you said, when you have someone who might

00:31:19.280 even start off innocently coming from, you know, humble beginnings and their heart is

00:31:25.300 in the right place when they go to D.C.

00:31:27.180 But then that same trait of just wanting to kind of be involved in the community and help people can be twisted into more of a manipulative control cycle.

00:31:39.820 And so this is where it comes in because now suddenly you can basically create an addict out of this, can't you?

00:31:51.100 Exactly. And so I'm glad you mentioned that word addiction.

00:31:54.460 So as a clinical psychologist, I have mixed feelings about people using words like, you know, sex addiction to get out of responsibility for what they're doing.

00:32:04.880 So I have some questions about some of the assumptions underlining the so-called disease model.

00:32:10.680 But what we certainly, I think, can all agree upon is that when somebody is addicted to something, they're chasing and increasing and increasing high.

00:32:20.740 So, you know, like you and Madison Cawthorn were talking about, maybe the first time it just starts off with, you know, an inappropriate flirtation or interaction with an office staffer. And then it escalates to, you know, well, let's, Jack, I don't know, I know you're a family friendly show, but you can imagine that these types of activities, next thing you know, you're, you know, in a hotel room, like some of the video footage that we've seen allegedly of Swalwell.

00:32:47.760 So, you know, with the factors of addiction, unfortunately, people can spiral into a deeper and deeper and deeper need to get that rush of dopamine and power and control and just a new level of feeling on top of the world that they haven't experienced before.

00:33:03.700 Especially, I must say, when we're dealing with somebody like Swalwell that was on the House Select Committee for Intelligence, this can get to be extremely dangerous in terms of national security, I would think.

00:33:14.680 Oh, no, you're exactly right. And I've tweeted this out in the past, but I'm remiss of myself to not bring it up initially that, yes, this guy's on the intelligence community and he's running around on yachts and he's gallivanting out with these these these these evening women.

00:33:30.600 And and suddenly, you know, this guy is the keys to the kingdom when it comes to our most precious and most secret military operations.

00:33:41.240 We're currently involved in these operations with Iran.

00:33:44.320 And regardless of what everyone's of anyone's opinions are with the war, I mean, you could have you have Americans in harm's way in situations that he knows about.

00:33:54.020 We had the downed airmen a couple of weeks ago.

00:33:56.520 I mean, my goodness, if someone had used him as a source of the Chinese Communist Party with Fang Fang and others had used him as a source for congressional information to get that out of him, then you could have Americans killed because of this.

00:34:11.080 But but Dr. Khloe, what what Madison was saying was that actually it people like this who are attracted to power, where power is sort of, I guess, an aphrodisiac, if you will, that they actually throw sex at them.

00:34:24.800 They ply them with these sexual escapades to make them more and more malleable.

00:34:31.920 And then, boom, it comes around that now there's leverage over you.

00:34:36.760 And, you know, when someone's in that leverage position, what are the psychological underpinnings there?

00:34:44.220 Well, exactly.

00:34:45.200 And, you know, as you're talking about there, there's a huge issue of egoism.

00:34:50.540 And so if it's the very same ego that could make somebody vulnerable, you know, to being plied in that particular manner, that would then, that very same ego issue becomes a double risk.

00:35:02.860 Because now they're also terrified of being, you know, publicly humiliated because their public image is so incredibly important to them. They don't even want to admit it to themselves maybe when, you know, they begin to suspect that maybe Feng Feng doesn't just, you know, really love, you know, to be in my circle.

00:35:22.280 They don't want to admit it to themselves, and they certainly don't want other people to know.

00:35:26.220 And so then they could be particularly vulnerable to some of the ugliest kinds of blackmail, specifically because their ego is so strong.

00:35:34.060 And I think maybe this is what you and Madison were also saying.

00:35:37.280 But, of course, people in places of, you know, intelligence and security, they would be absolutely targeted for this.

00:35:43.720 And there's not only the fact that sometimes people who go into politics might have, you know, a need for nurturance that can be twisted into a darker need for power, but there can also be a need for acceptance.

00:35:56.120 You know, when you're being loved and accepted and getting voted in, it's almost like a high school popularity contest.

00:36:01.840 There can be kind of a bottomless need for acceptance that can get tapped by some of these, you know, political figures.

00:36:08.180 So that would also be a vulnerability to, you know, a beautiful woman or, you know, somebody who knows just how to push your personality buttons.

00:36:16.840 That's making you feel loved and accepted and wanted. That can be an aphrodisiac as well.

00:36:23.420 That's so fascinating. And there's a lot to unpack there.

00:36:27.780 But you just said, because you're right, you know, in so many ways, you know, running for Congress is actually a it's a strange thing.

00:36:35.600 Um, there's, there's no real formula for it.

00:36:38.580 It's kind of just, as you say, it's like a high school popularity contest that there's,

00:36:42.000 there's no real one way to do it.

00:36:44.220 Every district is kind of different.

00:36:46.000 There's standings, there's different interests that go on.

00:36:49.740 There's different things at play.

00:36:50.920 It's, it's very much about what your reputation in that community is like, which is based

00:36:56.460 on so many different factors that, um, there's even, uh, you know, there's, I always like

00:37:02.100 to throw out from political trivia that what do I believe it's George W. Bush, Barack Obama

00:37:07.640 and Bill Clinton all have in common is that they all ran for Congress and lost before

00:37:12.920 eventually becoming, you know, successful runs for president because running for Congress

00:37:18.640 is just a weird animal and certain people make it, certain people don't.

00:37:23.340 And, you know, political operatives aren't supposed to say this, but it's just true that,

00:37:27.680 It really is a roll of the dice almost every time because of the way that it's set up.

00:37:35.540 Safe districts, okay, is a little bit of a different thing.

00:37:38.260 But it comes down to that.

00:37:41.640 So you get that person.

00:37:42.600 You take that person who wins that high school popularity contest.

00:37:45.300 Then they come to Washington, D.C.

00:37:47.300 What happens to them next?

00:37:49.700 That's what we're getting into here, the denizens of the swamp, the swamp soirees, if you will.

00:37:55.760 Human Events Daily, right back.

00:37:56.660 Call this the Jack Posobiec Appreciation Hour.

00:37:59.140 I can say confidently, I believe, I think Josh Shapiro would be the vice presidential

00:38:03.380 nominee if it wasn't for Jack Posobiec.

00:38:05.100 And that is, I'll be honest.

00:38:12.000 All right, Jack Posobiec back live.

00:38:13.680 We're on with Dr. Chloe Carmichael, the clinical psychologist who's walking us through the

00:38:19.220 psychology of how it is that members of Congress who we look to for leadership, we look to

00:38:24.720 for service, public service, who people, many people put their hopes in their, their finances 1.00

00:38:30.920 in, in many cases, and then they turn out to be absolute scumbags. 0.99

00:38:35.400 And how do you turn someone from that, uh, public servant into something like this? 0.98

00:38:42.380 And Dr. Chloe, I, there's something you mentioned in the last segment that of all the things

00:38:46.940 that, you know, I'd, I'd love to, you know, understand about this phenomenon that we see.

00:38:52.000 The one thing that you mentioned that I thought was really important is when I mentioned about how this stuff can become an addiction to that person, you said that you had a problem with the way that people talk about sex addiction as if it's some kind of, you know, and to be sure, people use it as a phrase to almost take away a responsibility of that person and take away their individual responsibility, their personal responsibility, the actions that they've done.

00:39:20.140 because i want to be clear about this um when i got that video on like it was saturday night

00:39:25.800 and with the verification on it and i'm sitting there thinking this is a person with kids

00:39:31.600 you know this is a person with a family with a wife and all i could think of was how could

00:39:41.380 you do this to your family how could you do this to them that that i could never think of

00:39:49.620 doing something that would hurt my family and my kids like that. The sheer thought of it just

00:39:54.580 makes me have a physical reaction. So when people say, oh, I have a sex addiction, is that a cop

00:40:04.720 out? Yeah, personally, I think it is. And in fact, I believe it's also actually disempowering

00:40:10.400 to the addict to suggest that this is some disease that they just can't control. I mean,

00:40:16.460 And what's interesting is that in the Journal of the American Medical Association, when

00:40:21.060 alcoholism was, you know, shifted to being a, quote, disease model, what they don't

00:40:27.660 tell you is that if you pull out that old edition of the Journal of the American Medical

00:40:32.720 Association, there will be side-by-side articles of other physicians at the time saying, no,

00:40:38.440 no, no, we don't agree with this.

00:40:41.000 So it's actually even disempowering sometimes to the addict to say, hey, you know, this

00:40:46.320 is just something you can't control. This is just a disease that you have. It not only, in some

00:40:52.940 cases, inappropriately absolves the person of responsibility, but it can also rob them of their

00:40:58.300 agency and their personal empowerment. But you also raised an interesting point there about the

00:41:04.400 video with Swalwell, is that this is somebody who not only made wildly inappropriate addictive

00:41:11.560 sexual behaviors, but also chose to film them. There are many people who are sex addicts,

00:41:18.740 you know, who want to keep this very private. Maybe they feel helpless to stop what they're

00:41:23.360 doing, but they would never in a million years film it. There's a different level of egoism.

00:41:28.540 We don't even know if he's truly addicted to the sex or addicted to, you know, the visual images

00:41:34.540 of himself and thinking about people looking at that and, you know, wanting the whole thing on

00:41:39.400 video, I think adds a different layer of what exactly is the addiction going on underneath it.

00:41:46.960 Well, look, and I'm just going to say that for me as a conservative, right, this is what makes me

00:41:52.480 a conservative more than anything else, is that you do not get to blame your problems or your

00:41:59.440 decisions or your actions on society or some nebulous. Oh, I'm a sex addict. I think Bill 0.99

00:42:06.540 Clinton tried to say that at one point or something and, and all this others.

00:42:09.940 No, no, it doesn't work that way.

00:42:11.560 Personal responsibility.

00:42:13.040 That is the underpinning to my mind of what makes, you know, the difference between a

00:42:18.600 conservative and a liberal is that, you know, you don't get to make excuses for your decisions,

00:42:25.420 right?

00:42:25.980 There, you know, there are people in poverty who don't commit crimes, by the way, you

00:42:30.080 don't have to commit crimes because you have poverty because your circumstances are not

00:42:34.700 great.

00:42:35.000 Go look at J.D.

00:42:35.960 Vance, right?

00:42:36.540 If you want an example of something like that, by the way, and I would love, I would love

00:42:40.840 for anyone to say that they had a worse childhood than JD Vance, right?

00:42:45.100 Just, just go ahead and look, his mother tried to kill them at one point and, and, and she's

00:42:50.080 gotten better and all the rest of it.

00:42:51.640 But there were some seriously, extremely dark moments in that childhood.

00:42:57.180 And you look at where he is now and you look at how successful he's been.

00:42:59.880 And I'm not, I'm not saying that everybody can do that.

00:43:01.780 I believe in talent, too, and all the rest. But at the same time, he made decisions to better his life and that those decisions are available to anyone at any time, especially in this country.

00:43:14.220 And that's why the United States of America is the greatest country on the face of the planet, because we allow people to make those decisions.

00:43:19.320 So, Dr. Chloe, what happens then if you have a client, you know, in general, obviously I'm asking personal stuff, but, you know, a client who comes in and says, oh, I think I'm, you know, finds themselves falling into this because we hear that in pop psychology all the time.

00:43:35.300 Yeah.

00:43:35.600 So, Jack, like you said, you not only don't get to, you know, blame your problems on external factors, but the good news is you also don't have to.

00:43:44.760 That means you're not consigned to external factors.

00:43:48.300 And so to answer your question, yeah, it's been interesting.

00:43:51.440 I've had some times where clients have come to my office expecting that I'm going to do

00:43:55.860 the traditional therapist thing where I just validate everything that they say and, you

00:44:00.580 know, suggest maybe they are the way they are because of society or their mother or

00:44:04.700 whatever.

00:44:05.460 And when I start to, you know, say, no, actually, you could totally make different choices here.

00:44:11.420 And that's good news is that you could have a totally different outcome.

00:44:15.420 They tend to react one of two ways.

00:44:17.640 Either, you know, they really bristle and, you know, we quickly realize I'm definitely not the right therapist for them.

00:44:24.720 Or they say, wow, I'm so thankful.

00:44:28.080 I've been waiting to hear a therapist say that.

00:44:30.240 So many therapists have told me because, of course, it is endemic to my profession to want to, you know, blame everything and everybody.

00:44:36.480 And we'll tell you that boys can be girls and, you know, all kinds of other nonsense.

00:44:40.220 So, you know, people tend to either love me or hate me as a therapist.

00:44:43.120 i i i love what you said there because it's it's something that i hear all the time and you hear

00:44:51.480 this pop psychology just running all over the place and oh you've got this you know you you

00:44:56.380 experience this trauma is another one right it's always and by the way and i'm not saying that

00:45:00.640 trauma is not real okay i'm not saying that none of that any of those things are not real bad

00:45:04.680 relationship with a with a you know with a parent bad relationship with a spouse but all of these

00:45:09.840 things are real. Of course, they're real, obviously. And I'm not going to bring up any

00:45:15.460 personal stuff, but I'm like, you know, bad things happen. OK, bad things happen. But how we react to

00:45:21.540 them is on us. Do I have that right? And that's good news. Yes. You know, you're absolutely right.

00:45:26.240 It's not what happens to us. It's what we do with it. And yes, you know, that increases our sense

00:45:31.620 of personal responsibility, which is a certain amount of work, you know. But I keep emphasizing

00:45:37.160 Again, the good news is, is that this means it actually is within your control, how you choose to deal with it. That's, you know, one of the things I talk about a lot in my book, Can I Say That Why Free Speech Matters and How to Use It Fearlessly, is because what we say we're going to do, our belief and our ability to do what we say we're going to do, is strongly correlated with positive mental health.

00:46:01.060 And so, you know, why my own profession sometimes seems so intent on convincing people that it's society, it's their parents, it's all these other things that are sandbagging them, it's really counterproductive.

00:46:13.940 I sometimes wonder if maybe they just want to keep the therapy sessions cranking out or something like that.

00:46:18.420 I was just going to say, yeah, no, because why cure the problem?

00:46:23.900 Because then you lose a client.

00:46:25.620 Yeah.

00:46:25.940 And, you know, the sad thing is I run courses for therapists that want to build their private practice.

00:46:30.360 and I have had therapists tell me that when I talk to them about how to help clients, you know,

00:46:35.620 make quick and dynamic changes, they're like, I've had them say to me, but how do you keep

00:46:40.280 your practice full then if you're doing that? And of course, I just tell them, look, if you're

00:46:44.780 helping people get better quickly, their friends and family will want to call you and they will

00:46:48.740 also personally call you next time that they have an issue to deal with. But anyway, I know we're

00:46:53.380 here to talk about Swalwell though. I'm sure he could probably use the therapist. No, no, this is

00:46:57.000 great this is this is this is great tv as they say no because it's exactly right and and maybe

00:47:01.700 we'll have to have to have the guys book you on another piece on this you know the truth about

00:47:05.620 big psychology because it's just true it's just true you know there's there's there's there's a

00:47:10.240 model of keeping someone addiction and treating you know treating the problem or whatever or

00:47:15.440 there's a model of breaking it and getting them better and getting them back on their life and

00:47:19.100 which way is better for society versus which way just puts you know a little bit more money in your

00:47:22.920 pocket in the short term. Hit the book again for us. Oh, yes. Can I say that? Why free speech matters

00:47:29.540 and how to use it fearlessly? freespeechtoday.com. Dr. Chloe Carmichael, always a pleasure and honor

00:47:37.240 and so insightful. Ladies and gentlemen, as always, you have my permission to lay ashore.

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Former Congressman Explains the TRUTH About Sex Parties in Politics

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