Human Events Daily with Jack Posobiec - GARLAND KABUKI THEATER WHILE PATRIOTS ARE LED TO THE GULAGS

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00:00:22.960 This is what happens when the fourth turning meets fifth-generation warfare.

00:00:35.960 A commentator, international social media sensation, and former Navy intelligence veteran.

00:00:42.620 This is Human Events with your host, Jack Posobiec.

00:00:46.180 We have Jamie Raskin in there accusing us of worshipping Trump,

00:00:50.840 worshipping a convicted felon. Well, yes, so is George Floyd. And you all too,

00:00:58.000 the media worship George Floyd. Democrats worship George Floyd. There were riots burning down the

00:01:03.380 country. I have provided the committee with special counsel HERS report,

00:01:08.120 why the special counsel testified for more than five hours, and why we have gone beyond precedent

00:01:14.000 to provide the committee with the transcripts of the special counsel's interview with the

00:01:18.960 president. But we have made clear that we will not provide audio recordings from which the

00:01:25.240 transcripts that you already have were created. Hunter Biden just left the courthouse where six

00:01:31.860 men and six women have been seated in an American First, the first criminal trial for a child of a

00:01:37.780 sitting president. Those jurors were selected after attorneys on both sides questioned them about

00:01:42.380 their views on gun rights, addiction, and politics. The president's only surviving son is charged with

00:01:48.340 three felony counts related to his alleged illegal purchase and possession of a firearm in 2018.

00:01:55.160 Sources say President Biden is expected to unveil his most aggressive action on immigration yet,

00:02:00.960 planning to sign an executive order that effectively shuts down the border for asylum seekers

00:02:05.540 when migrant crossings surge. Georgia appeals court court of appeals officially setting October 4th as

00:02:12.180 the tentative hearing date in former President Donald Trump's effort to disqualify District Attorney

00:02:17.740 Fannie Willis in the Georgia election interference case. We created an election threats task force,

00:02:23.600 particularly because we were so worried. And as you say, this is not only about elected election

00:02:29.960 officials, not only about appointed election officials, but about ordinary Americans who show up

00:02:37.880 as poll watchers on a single day during the year to run our elections. Our democracy can't work if those

00:02:47.460 people fear threats that are urged against them. There's actual violence against them.

00:02:55.640 Ladies and gentlemen, welcome aboard today's edition of Human Events Daily here live

00:02:59.960 Washington DC. Today's June 4th, 2024 Anno Domini. Today is the anniversary, the sacred anniversary 40

00:03:09.260 years, 40 years ago today. June 4th, let's see if not 40 years, uh, 25, 25 years ago today, June 4th,

00:03:20.600 1989, 35 years, 35 years since the day the Chinese Communist Party

00:03:29.160 slaughtered all of those people in that square and the seeds of globalism were born. The seeds of the

00:03:36.280 globalist regime that we see played out before us, Merrick Garland, Merrick Garland

00:03:41.880 and his Kabuki theater. If you think Merrick Garland is actually going to go down because of something

00:03:51.640 that happened up on that stage right there, up in that hearing, then you're not paying attention.

00:03:57.060 People are stuck in this, a few good men fallacy that if you get someone to admit something on the

00:04:02.740 stand, that you just get justice. The justice just happens. That's not how it works anymore,

00:04:07.120 ladies and gentlemen. No, the power differentials are how the country works because the system has

00:04:13.680 changed. The system has shifted. This isn't the 1980s anymore. It's not the 1990s anymore.

00:04:20.240 If you control the system, you can get away with anything. Let's say Merrick Garland goes and commits

00:04:27.700 perjury to Congress. He's already telling them that he's refusing. He is refusing with alacrity

00:04:34.860 to respond to their subpoenas. Peter Navarro is behind bars right now for this. They're trying to put

00:04:44.420 Steve Baden behind bars on Thursday over this. Merrick Garland goes up there and says, I don't

00:04:50.660 need to respond to your subpoena. I don't have to because Merrick Garland is the one who's in control

00:04:58.980 of the system. Merrick Garland's own number three was the guy who prosecuted Donald J. Trump.

00:05:07.880 Steve Bannon is also going to be brought before Judge Juan Mershon in his New York case.

00:05:12.720 So just understand, folks, it's all connected. Even if he goes up there and admits it, he never

00:05:18.920 will. But even if he did, what's going to happen? What is he going to prosecute himself for contempt?

00:05:24.380 Of course not. You need to wake up. The way to beat this system is to take action and take power.

00:05:33.620 All of these types, Merrick Garland, Jack Smith, these are the ones who can, should, and hopefully

00:05:42.440 will be behind bars when we win. Because the name of the game, folks, is reciprocity. It's called

00:05:50.080 reciprocity. It's called that which is done to us will be done back to you 10 times. And you know

00:05:57.000 what they say, folks, about payback. We'll be right back.

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00:07:56.980 Benz, a man who knows all about, who's had more skills perish than most people will ever have in

00:08:02.620 a lifetime. Benz, I got to get your take on Merrick Garland's testimony up there. I think

00:08:08.380 there's a lot of kabuki theater, but I also think there might be a few nuggets that we can glean from

00:08:14.840 this specifically talking as well about this election threat task force. What does he mean

00:08:20.600 when he's talking about this? Yeah. The first thing that just has to be said up top, you know,

00:08:26.580 even, even before directly answering the question is that these kinds of hearings have to have teeth

00:08:31.980 attached to them in the form of threats to defund the justice department. There is no watching Merrick

00:08:37.920 Garland up there with the smirk on his face, feeling as impervious as Jeffrey Epstein walking

00:08:44.700 into a, into a, a babysitter meeting, uh, with, with FBI cameras, knowing that nothing will happy

00:08:50.880 happen to him is, uh, is absolutely infuriating to a hundred million Americans watching this in real

00:08:58.700 time. The man apparently has nothing to fear from lying in the same way that Tony Fauci has nothing to

00:09:04.280 fear from lying because the only way to actually enforce perjury for those lies is to have the

00:09:10.740 justice department, his own agency convict him. So at this point we are left with basically no choice,

00:09:17.000 but to defund it and cut these people off from their salaries, cut them off from the resources.

00:09:22.640 This is the power that the house has in the GOP, but then moving on to this new, you know, the new

00:09:27.620 hoax, same as the old hoax on this election threats task force. This is a predicate by the justice

00:09:33.520 department to say that anybody who organizes in person or online around election fraud concerns

00:09:40.360 is effectively a criminal is effectively a domestic terrorist. Because if you create a presumption of

00:09:47.820 insecurity about the voting process, then that puts the people administering the, the, uh, election

00:09:53.740 process in danger because you're angry at them. What might you do to them? And so boom, just like that.

00:10:00.000 Now the FBI is on your ass because you said you didn't trust the voting process.

00:10:06.180 And this is huge. Look, I remember in 2016, uh, myself and a few other people put up a poll watching,

00:10:12.520 um, poll watching program basically for, um, for polls in key swing states, key areas of those states

00:10:19.400 like Philadelphia, uh, where, where I'm from and where you're also from the area. And, uh, there's,

00:10:25.660 you know, a huge backlash from the DNC at the time saying, how dare you do this? We also said we were

00:10:31.160 going to do opinion polls, exit polls, all these different things. Didn't matter. They said Republicans

00:10:36.520 doing anything with election integrity or election interference, trying to, uh, trying to observe

00:10:42.720 election interference was terrifying. And they said we were threatening and intimidating voters.

00:10:47.680 So to me, this is a bright flashing red light that they are number one, terrified of the 2024

00:10:55.820 election, but also that any efforts to direct people to look into these ballots, to understand

00:11:04.680 what's going on. And by the way, this is of course, isn't just going to be on November 5th. This is

00:11:08.900 going to be the ballot drop boxes. This is going to be, if anyone wants to go there, look, they already

00:11:12.700 went to take down 2000 mules. They went after that. Anyone who's involved in trying to figure out

00:11:18.680 how our elections actually work is now going to become a target of the DOJ. Yeah. 2024. It's going

00:11:25.460 to be like a Michael Bay sequel. You know how every sequel in like a transformer movie gets bigger and

00:11:30.380 crazier with like more explosions and car crashes, even though the plot is exactly the same. That is

00:11:35.600 exactly what 2024 is going to be around election fraud with 2020. 2020 was a total disaster. No

00:11:42.520 transparency. The result flips overnight. Never happened before in American history. Seven states

00:11:47.620 all flip. Goes from a blowout win to a nail biter loss because of magic midnight mail-ins flying in

00:11:55.600 with no signature verification check. We had to suffer through people, poll counters, putting pizza

00:12:03.760 boxes over the windows so that outside bystanders can't watch them watch votes. Who will watch the

00:12:10.020 watchers? You know, in Singapore, they do it right out in the open. You can watch them count. But here,

00:12:17.120 in order to maintain the secrecy that is at the heart of effectively being able to steal something,

00:12:23.860 any attempt to watch the watchers is going to be translated by this totally corrupt and crooked

00:12:29.360 justice department as some sort of violent threat, which therefore necessitates the destruction of all

00:12:36.560 oversight of the actual counting of the votes. And I've got up, I've got up some of his initial press

00:12:43.580 conference on this a while back. They were, and keep in mind, this is Garland who's gone, has gone after

00:12:49.300 states like Georgia who have actually worked to secure or make more secure their election processes since

00:12:56.720 2020. Back in 2021, look, listen to what Garland said. Garland said the Georgia law, quote, makes it harder for

00:13:04.080 people to vote. And the complaint being filed by the Department of Justice. Remember, he filed a

00:13:09.140 complaint of the DOJ against the state of Georgia for wanting to run their own elections, which is

00:13:16.220 their constitutional right, the way that they saw fit. Garland filed a complaint against the state of

00:13:22.420 Georgia. So what's he doing under this complaint and using the color of the color of law of this

00:13:28.560 federal voting rights act? He is now potentially even going to be looking at red states or any place

00:13:35.620 that there's a red administration, red infrastructure that's controlling one of these

00:13:40.320 swing states. Mike Benz.

00:13:42.780 Merrick Garland may be the most corrupt official in all of Washington. One of the lessons from these

00:13:47.680 past few months is that the Justice Department really is like the Strait of Gibraltar. It's this

00:13:53.480 narrow strait that you have to pass through for the whole rest of government to function.

00:13:57.200 And what you just laid out there with Merrick Garland, not just creating these fake FBI attack

00:14:03.900 dog teams to to basically indict anyone who has a question about the election, but then

00:14:09.020 effectively rigging the election by stopping states from being able to put basic checks on the validity

00:14:16.140 of votes. They they're they're you know, they're juggling 12 different balls of not just rigging the

00:14:22.340 elections, but also rigging the election process by rounding up basically every influential voice

00:14:28.040 in media or or in the political arena itself. Donald Trump, Rudy Giuliani, Jeff Clark,

00:14:36.580 lawyers, accountants, valets, even even the Trump valet rolled up by his goons.

00:14:45.040 This one little strait, the entire passage of all of the critical cargo and the all of the merchant

00:14:54.720 ships, all of the battleships, they all sail through this one little narrow strait of the Justice

00:14:58.780 Department. And it is the most corrupt plot of dirt in all of D.C. And that is not for lack of

00:15:05.180 competition. This is a truly a choke point in our entire governmental system. And that's why,

00:15:14.660 of course, Merrick Garland has been there. And it's very clear, by the way, that the reason that

00:15:19.540 he targets conservatives, the reason he targets Republicans the way that he does. Again, this was

00:15:24.500 a guy who thought during the Obama administration, the waiting hours that he was going to be a shoe

00:15:29.760 in for the Supreme Court. And who was it? It was the Republican Senate that held it over and said,

00:15:34.860 we are not going to put forward this process until after the election. The election went the way that

00:15:38.900 it did. Hillary Clinton lost. And so in his mind, in his mind, all of the Republicans, this is a

00:15:46.000 reactionary response that we're seeing. All of the Republicans, all of the conservatives, the pro-lifers,

00:15:51.500 the 75-year-old woman who's going to jail for two years, ordered by a D.C. judge, all of the reason

00:15:56.840 that you're seeing him dropping the hammer on all of these people is because he has a personal

00:16:01.980 vendetta that he is taking out. And don't tell me otherwise, because we can see it happen every

00:16:07.160 single day in these courtrooms. Merrick Garland is a crook, and he's always been a crook and a

00:16:13.540 cover-up artist. Going back to the 1990s, when he was involved in PATCON, the political hit job to

00:16:19.540 round up patriots in the PATCON conspiracy FBI architecture in the early 1990s. Going back to his

00:16:27.500 cover-up of the investigation around the Oklahoma City bombing, something the media lionized for

00:16:33.520 him. But I think the American people, if they ever looked into it, would have a lot of open

00:16:37.360 questions about why the hell did Merrick Garland protect Andy Strassmeyer, for example. This guy

00:16:43.360 has been a janitor for the intelligence state, has been a janitor for high levels of power in Washington

00:16:49.940 since virtually the day he stepped foot in the Justice Department. And the fact that he's in charge of

00:16:54.720 it now and overseeing the most tyrannical, corrupt, delegitimizing destruction of justice in this

00:17:01.820 country is a stain this country will never wash off. And by the way, here's another thing that,

00:17:10.000 you know, people say, well, history will look back on kindly. History will write the story. I said,

00:17:14.620 really? History is just going to do that all by itself? Because I see the historians and the writers

00:17:19.340 and the reporters and the journalists right now who, you know, journalism is the first draft of

00:17:24.640 history, et cetera. They don't seem to be looking back disfavorably at all. They're cheering all of

00:17:31.080 this on. And so this is why I always tell people, you must act. You can't play this game of sitting

00:17:37.980 back saying, oh, the snake's going to eat its own tail. Guess what? It took the Soviet Union 80 years

00:17:43.080 to fall under its own power. Today's the 35th anniversary of Tiananmen Square. CCP is still going

00:17:48.460 strong, still going strong, even after the slaughter of thousands of students 35 years ago today. So

00:17:54.960 don't tell me that this stuff just goes away by itself. It doesn't. And the history books are going

00:18:01.300 to be written by one side, either us or them. My question is, are you going to step up and do the hard

00:18:07.840 work to take action? Or do you just want to sit and watch Merrick Garland TV show? Be right back.

00:18:16.800 Grew up in the hood. I rolled with bloods. And them boys had a saying. You can't be listening to all

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00:18:28.340 Posobiec. Jack Posobiec, they're back. Human Events Daily. Mike Benz is on. We're talking about the

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00:19:57.520 walk me through this idea that history, they say, well, history is going to be written by the

00:20:04.700 winners. Okay, maybe, but certainly not in some instances. But if we want to write our history,

00:20:11.060 if we want history to look back on this period the way that we view it now, is it just going to

00:20:17.160 happen all by itself? Are we just going to be able to kick back and say, oh, history will take

00:20:21.840 care of it. Don't worry, folks. Is that how things work in the real world?

00:20:27.060 Well, there is a white pill on this right now, which is just yesterday. The Washington Post,

00:20:33.260 it was reported, had a meeting where the big, bold headline that everyone reported coming out of the

00:20:40.000 staff meeting was that the head of the Washington Post told the staff, nobody's reading your stuff.

00:20:47.160 And, you know, I tweeted that that's the journalistic equivalent of you look fat in

00:20:51.800 this dress. You know, this is like the thing you're not supposed to say to someone, even though

00:20:56.540 they all know it's true. And it's completely devastating to the psyche. But it's true.

00:21:03.840 The fact is, is the Washington Post, according to that meeting, its readership has halved in the past

00:21:09.160 several years, likely owing to the fact that X is exploding in popularity with more monthly average

00:21:16.320 users than ever. And all new functionality that allows you to basically post entire articles

00:21:24.080 in order to do entire live shows all on the platform. You have the rise of Rumble as an

00:21:31.500 alternative to YouTube. You have some of the slackening of some of the terms of service policies

00:21:37.440 at Facebook following in Elon's footsteps. You have a sort of rebound of some of the financial

00:21:44.920 architecture that was imploded for free speech media in 2019, 2020 lawsuits aside. And all of this

00:21:54.260 is basically causing a replay of 2016. This is so getting back to your question about whether the

00:22:01.540 winners write history. The fact is, is, you know, who determines what's what's read in history is not

00:22:09.160 just by the winners at the time, but by the winners of the moment. As long as an archive is preserved,

00:22:14.560 as as the winners of one period give lose to winners of the next period, that history can be

00:22:22.040 revisited. And what we saw was lie after lie after lie by a corrupt and intelligence laced media,

00:22:29.100 a kind of clockwork orange propaganda program instead of a genuine free and healthy media

00:22:35.960 ecosystem in this country. And one of the magic phenomena of the freeing of speech by by social

00:22:43.180 media and the Internet has been an escape valve from the from the rigged history of of the four

00:22:52.760 corners of the tightly controlled media. And so that is why freedom of speech on the Internet is

00:22:57.860 absolutely essential. This is why Elon, you know, he was the Leroy Jenkins, you know, he put the team

00:23:03.360 on his back and, you know, fell out of the sky. And that is why we have to support the people who are

00:23:09.960 in the arena flaws and all, you know, you mentioned Steve Bannon earlier, I think in a segment, and he

00:23:15.580 had a great line about Trump, which is that, you know, he may be he may be an imperfect vessel, but he's a

00:23:21.940 heat seeking missile or something like that. And and that is true. The media is going to try to cut

00:23:27.640 down all of us one by one. And if you don't stand up for the people in the arena, warts and all

00:23:34.100 flaws and all, then no one will be left to come for you. We we can withstand this together. But, you know,

00:23:42.340 we we we hang together or we we, you know, we hang alone. Precisely. That's that's I had the I have

00:23:50.820 that tweet that's going kind of viral where I sort of mentioned that and they said, how can you support

00:23:54.660 a convicted felon? And I said the same way I support 56 traitors, the designers of the Declaration of

00:24:00.520 Independence. And that's exactly what was said. Either we hang together or we hang alone. Many of

00:24:06.080 those signers, by the way, didn't even make it through the war. A lot of them were killed. A lot of them

00:24:11.760 were tortured. They had their families. They had their families killed. Some of them had their

00:24:16.140 children killed on these British these British prison ships that were in the harbors in New York

00:24:21.300 and Philadelphia and Delaware Bay. And and so people have to understand that it's action. It's not just

00:24:28.120 the founding fathers didn't just sign a piece of paper and America magically sprang forth and, you

00:24:34.020 know, became this, you know, wonderful country that we all love. And we have these great systems that

00:24:39.100 we came up with. No, no, no, they had to fight. They had to actually take a stand. They had to say

00:24:45.320 that we are going to do something to fight back. And they had to sacrifice. They had the sacrifice

00:24:49.340 of Valley Forge. They had the sacrifice of going and taking the risk of crossing the Delaware. Remember,

00:24:56.320 Washington and the Hessians could have killed Washington and the entire leadership of the

00:25:01.480 Continental Army in one night if that the Continental Congress didn't want him to do this.

00:25:05.440 There's so many single points in those years of the Revolutionary War where the entire thing

00:25:11.160 could have gone awry. But my point is, if you do not act, you will lose everything.

00:25:17.200 One thing I would just caution there, though, is that Merrick Garland has a specialty about

00:25:21.520 arresting people who quote the Constitution. Yes, exactly. You know, I'm not even joking.

00:25:27.760 Like they literally do. If you go back into the OKC records and the Patcon records,

00:25:31.720 you'll see that Merrick Garland and his FBI buddies were basically using the predicate that

00:25:37.220 anyone quoting the Tree of Liberty quote as plotting a domestic terrorist attack.

00:25:45.000 And they were using that as infiltration. In fact, when the FBI was penetrating the Oath Keepers,

00:25:49.940 this came out after the Bundy Ranch affair, the same Oath Keepers that they would mass infiltrate

00:25:56.300 with federal informants and then take down with January 6th, they had informants giving out pocket

00:26:01.620 constitutions in the Oath Keepers during the Bundy Ranch affair. You can even FOIA this stuff.

00:26:08.060 That's all public. So these people are specialists in trying to get people to, you know, citing that

00:26:16.960 those constitutional properties and predicates that you mentioned as being, you know,

00:26:21.720 as being effectively domestic terrorists and using that at least as grounds to be able to get a warrant

00:26:31.100 to tap all of your phones, to read all of your private messages, to get access to your text messages

00:26:39.300 and emails through their third party providers. And so, you know, the least people can do is talk

00:26:47.080 about it. Talk about it, talk about it, talk about it. Because the fact is, is history is written not just

00:26:52.220 by one author. It's written by a collective of millions of voices who all add their own unique

00:26:59.480 piece of fabric to the tapestry of that collective history. So the least you can do is tweet about it.

00:27:06.660 Make a rumble video about it. You know, make a friggin' interpretive TikTok dance to it if you need to.

00:27:14.120 But add your voice to build that spirit ball, because that's the motor engine of all change.

00:27:20.340 Is that, is that what you're going to be doing, Ben? So you'd be doing interpretive TikTok dances of,

00:27:25.000 of the truth?

00:27:27.120 You bet your butt I am. I'm going to be doing, uh, rap battles.

00:27:32.260 Yes.

00:27:33.600 Rap battles, musical interpretations. Uh, you know, we're going to have beach volleyball,

00:27:39.420 beach volleyball with, uh, I don't know, with base cheerleaders. Anything you can do

00:27:44.440 that gets viral attention to a good message moves the ball down the field. You don't need to hit a

00:27:50.740 home run. You don't need to have a million followers or a million views on a video. If,

00:27:56.980 if you get 10 views on, on some piece of content that you produce to juice this, then you've just

00:28:03.900 done 10 times more than, uh, than, than somebody who rests on their butt and what you're talking

00:28:09.600 about, what you're talking about, it almost sounds like populist information warfare,

00:28:14.080 as though the populists should use information warfare against the tyrants. Is that what you're

00:28:20.800 saying?

00:28:21.120 I think that that is one of those realities that in some sense is inescapable in the sense that,

00:28:32.660 you know, culture, the culture war, so to speak, begets culture warfare. And the use of information

00:28:39.960 is sort of a tete-a-tete of people on various sides. But frankly, this is about singing the song

00:28:47.240 of your nation, singing the song of your people, singing the song of, of prosperity and greatness,

00:28:53.600 and singing it as loud as you can in every medium, in every message until the whole world is singing

00:29:00.820 it with you.

00:29:02.440 Look, this is about humanity. It's about freedom. It's about our future. I'm all for it. Populist

00:29:08.420 information warfare. Take, look, they've got, look, look at their great bastions of information

00:29:14.100 warfare. The Washington Post is going down. Why do you think that's happening, folks? The failing

00:29:19.740 New York Times, CNN losing ratings. And by the way, CNN lost their contracts for most of the major

00:29:26.200 airports already. You think it hasn't happened in effect? It's having an effect right now. And even

00:29:32.880 Bezos, for as much, as little love as he has for Trump, even he is trying to do what he can to stem

00:29:39.620 the bleeding over at the Washington Post. So don't think for a second that the things that we've all

00:29:44.840 been doing, that Ben's, the human events audience, the war room audience, Charlie Kirk, Tucker Carlson,

00:29:50.220 everybody out there, Rumble, Truth Social, all of this is having a massive effect. Ben's, where can

00:29:56.520 people go to follow you, man?

00:29:57.260 X, at Mike Ben's cyber, at Mike Ben's cyber. I post like 30 times a day, mostly just kind of making

00:30:07.040 jokes in Jack's, in Jack's tweets. I'm joking. I basically cover all this very extensively on my

00:30:14.360 worst reply guy on the internet. Absolute worst reply guy on the internet. I know when I see Ben's in

00:30:19.620 there and I'm just like, oh man, this is going to be horrible. And then there's going to be like a

00:30:22.880 piano recital. It's like, oh gosh, oh gosh, what's coming next? Go follow Mike Ben's. He's a great

00:30:28.460 guy, folks. Deepa Fry joins us in a second.

00:30:34.020 Jack, where is Jack? Where is Jack? Where is he? Jack, I want to see you.

00:30:43.820 Great job, Jack. Thank you. What a job you do. You know, we have an incredible thing. We're always

00:30:49.140 talking about the fake news and the bad. But we have guys, and these are the guys who'll be getting

00:30:54.100 policies. In the days since Trump's guilty verdict, we have seen a number of polls come out. Is it

00:30:59.420 actually just too soon to know what the impact of this verdict really is on the 2024 presidential

00:31:05.740 outcome? No, it's actually, it's soon enough to know that it's not going to significantly alter the

00:31:12.620 results at this moment. That the gains that Trump had made among union members, Hispanics, young

00:31:19.820 African-American men are significant and they're holding. That Biden's gains among middle-aged female

00:31:27.920 suburban voters, those are holding. The assumption was 90 days ago that if Donald Trump was found guilty,

00:31:35.980 the bottom would drop out of his support. And that has not happened. He has weakened. People have

00:31:42.540 started to reconsider whether or not they support him. But there's been no dramatic shift. And that

00:31:48.540 in itself is a very big story. So that's Frank Luntz, no Trump lover there, coming out and saying

00:31:56.520 that his focus group didn't show there was no shift in the voting patterns after this, after the

00:32:03.000 conviction. And then, he even mentioned this later, he said that actually, when asked about it, people

00:32:08.820 said, well, we're pretty sure that this is what most businesses do, that every business kind of does

00:32:13.160 stuff like this. And the reason that you're going after it is political. Viva Fry, everyone's favorite

00:32:19.320 attorney from Rumble, joins us now to explain. Viva, what is it about this case? There's so much here.

00:32:25.400 From a public opinion perspective, though, why is it that people are saying that, that it really is

00:32:31.480 just something that normal businesses do all the time? Well, I will. I'll say former attorney,

00:32:36.700 and I was only a civil litigator out of Quebec to begin with, but that doesn't mean I don't have

00:32:40.640 half a functioning brain. You can see crap. I mean, you can identify crap when you see it.

00:32:46.080 I don't know what businesses do every day, day in and day out. I can tell you as an attorney,

00:32:50.660 and I did a lot of corporate stuff, they don't always do things on the up and up, but that doesn't

00:32:54.780 matter. People are able to identify political persecution when they see political persecution.

00:33:00.740 It's not the first time someone has signed an NDA. It's not the first time a politician

00:33:06.020 has paid hush money, what they're calling hush money, as though that's a crime. Schwarzenegger

00:33:11.280 did it. John Edwards did it. There was another one who was a recent Democrat. I forget his name

00:33:16.760 now. It's done over and over again. And it's not a crime in and of itself. What is a crime is

00:33:23.340 actually what Hillary Clinton actually did, which was use campaign funds to provide fake opposition

00:33:30.560 research that was built on known lies, slip it to the intelligence so they could then leak it to

00:33:35.840 the media who can then publish it, and then they can go and use that publication to investigate and spy

00:33:41.300 on their political opponent. That's actual election interference. And they get a slap on the wrist.

00:33:46.280 Everybody knew this case was bogus from the beginning, and anybody who followed that trial

00:33:50.780 understood and really appreciated, like ate it, digested it. It was bogus from the beginning.

00:33:56.560 The judge was corrupt through and through. We all now know Trump was gagged so that he couldn't

00:34:02.020 hammer home the fact that the judge's daughter was raising millions of bucks for an authentic PR firm,

00:34:06.840 for Adam Schiff, another confirmed liar. So everybody saw it in real time. And this conviction,

00:34:12.220 other than being a very devastating thing for a purported free and democratic society,

00:34:17.160 other than being an outright international humiliation, everybody who has half a reasonable

00:34:22.640 brain knows it is what it is. And the only people purporting, you know, still maintaining

00:34:27.700 that this actually means anything are the liars from the get-go. It was a long-winded answer. Sorry

00:34:32.480 about that. Well, and my other favorite part of this is that, and we don't have the clip, but Michael

00:34:38.180 Knowles has tested my theory when he was on with Piers Morgan. And I had this theory for a couple of

00:34:44.680 days, I think I said it, what did I first say this? Probably, probably last Friday, the day after

00:34:49.500 it happened, I said, here's, here, I'm telling you, I'm calling this, go to any liberal. And I mean,

00:34:55.620 even professionals and ask them to explain the charges, to explain what Donald Trump has been

00:35:02.660 charged. You don't, and don't let them off the hook, right? This is key. Don't let them off the

00:35:05.660 hook. Don't just say 34 felonies. Don't just say hush money payments, actually engage with them

00:35:11.140 and get them to explain to you the theory of the case. Viva, Michael Knowles attempted this

00:35:16.640 with a liberal on the Piers Morgan show, and she completely fell apart. Why is it that they

00:35:22.160 can't even explain the basic legal theory here? Well, I should take it. The theory isn't that basic,

00:35:27.940 is it? No, but I mean, I could steal, man, the answer and provide the answer. Why? The answer's

00:35:33.320 simple. They're stupid, they're ignorant, they're corrupt, and or they're liars. It's only one of those

00:35:38.560 four reasons. And the problem is when you're all four, when you're all four at once, it means you

00:35:43.200 can't even justify your own life. Adam Schiff, he's a skilled pathological liar. He probably would

00:35:48.520 have been able to answer that question. When I don't know who the woman was, Francesca, when she's

00:35:52.360 asked, what were the underlying crimes? I could answer that question. The alleged underlying crimes

00:35:57.280 were campaign finance violations, which, you know, the judge conveniently did not allow Trump to have

00:36:03.900 an expert testify to, because there were none. The FEC investigated it and concluded no campaign

00:36:09.800 finance violations because it wasn't done with campaign finances, unlike Hillary Clinton. The

00:36:14.460 other one was tax fraud, where the, for any, you know, the liberals, they're lazy, stupid, corrupt,

00:36:20.100 and dishonest. They didn't even listen or watch the trial in real time. I did. I was watching it on

00:36:24.660 inner city press live tweeting it. The judge said, you don't have to unanimously agree on the three

00:36:29.820 potential underlying crimes because you have to have your credit predicate act in order to jack

00:36:34.340 this stupid misdemeanor up to a 34 charge felony in order to bypass the fact that as a misdemeanor,

00:36:39.760 this would have been time barred by the statute of limitations. You don't have, he said, the judge

00:36:43.460 says, you don't have to unanimously agree on which of the three potential predicate acts this 34 charge

00:36:49.060 felony was based on, but it's one of three campaign finance laws, tax laws. And I always forget the

00:36:54.060 third now, darn it. I'm going to forget the third doesn't matter, but I could answer that question.

00:36:57.500 I think it was, I think it was federal tax laws and state tax laws.

00:37:00.180 So, and then he says, and then the judge says to the jury, and he doesn't even have to have paid

00:37:04.980 less in taxes in order for this to be tax fraud. I mean, I could answer that question because I'm,

00:37:09.580 I'm reasonably intelligent, reasonably up to date and actually follow the trial, but they are

00:37:14.280 dishonest scoundrels who just repeat talking points with no understanding of what they're actually

00:37:19.500 repeating. They're useless talking heads. That's what they are. And that's what they'll forever be

00:37:23.080 known as. But this trial, it's a stain. I mean, it's not that New York needed any more stains after

00:37:27.920 anger on, you know, not that the system needed any more stains after the Rico out of Georgia and

00:37:32.680 the corruption that was unveiled there, except it wasn't Rico from Trump. It was Rico from Fannie

00:37:36.760 Willis and her boyfriend, Nathan Wade, colluding with the Biden administration to bring these

00:37:40.800 charges. But it's, it's a stain on the justice system. And you're going to now have the Putins of

00:37:45.560 the world looking here and saying, you're going to lecture me on prosecuting my political rivals.

00:37:50.640 We all saw what you just did there. And it's even worse. So, you know, bugger off.

00:37:56.160 Yeah. Having talked to my wife about this, even all the way back during the Mar-a-Lago,

00:38:00.680 initial Mar-a-Lago raid, almost two years ago, where I think we're actually coming up on the two

00:38:04.880 year anniversary of that, actually, that, um, you know, she said, look in, in, in Eastern Europe and

00:38:09.940 that part of the world that this is just business as usual. There are parts of the world that this

00:38:15.300 is their political system every day. But what made the American experiment so incredible and what

00:38:22.340 made Western, uh, the Western system so incredible was that this wasn't our system, that we decided

00:38:28.100 to move away from this, this, this world of political machinations of political power dynamics,

00:38:34.520 determining what, uh, becomes against the law, what becomes for the law, that everyone be held to the

00:38:39.360 same standard. A very basic, seemingly very basic statement, but it turns out one that is incredibly

00:38:46.200 complex when you have a country and when you have a group of people who are willing to abuse said

00:38:52.300 system. If there's it there, they will stop at nothing. Like they've broken that glass. And now that

00:38:57.880 I forget what documentary it was from, uh, it had to do with the genocide in Rwanda. And the underlying

00:39:03.440 theory was that these child soldiers, they don't kill a lot of people because it means nothing to them.

00:39:08.200 They kill a lot of people after the first one, because they try to make it mean nothing to them.

00:39:12.920 And there's something of an analogy here where they've crossed the Rubicon. And in order to now,

00:39:17.660 that was a, I think that was shake, shake hands with the devil, by the way, it was, if you could

00:39:22.080 give me the reference, cause I saw it years ago. I was like, I never really think it is. That's

00:39:25.120 Romeo, Romeo Dallaire, Romeo Dallaire wrote the book, shake hands with the devil. And I believe they

00:39:29.960 turned that into a, uh, he was the, he was the UN peacekeeping general who was there also Canadian

00:39:35.000 and, um, in a really terrible, uh, situation, obviously. Um, yeah, no, it just happened to,

00:39:41.300 I actually, well, that's once years ago. I've been trying to find it since, cause I keep

00:39:45.780 referencing it, but I can't, I couldn't remember where I heard it from, but like they, they've

00:39:49.520 crossed the Rubicon and in order to try to normalize the first impeachment, they go with

00:39:53.700 another impeachment. And then in order to try to normalize the second impeachment, they go with

00:39:57.620 trying to indict the president. And then, then to try to normalize the abnormal, uh, you continue

00:40:03.860 to try to indict the Trump, the president's lawyers, you try to take them off ballots, and then you do

00:40:08.260 all these things and you have to rationalize the degeneracy to yourself. And so the only way to

00:40:12.780 rationalize it is to do more of it and say, well, it wasn't so bad what we did there because look

00:40:16.640 where we are now. And that's just the way things are. That's just how bad this guy is. It is, people

00:40:21.540 are making the joke, Jack, that like, you know, I left Canada only to come to America to see it turn

00:40:26.120 into socialist Venezuela. We're not there yet. And there's a whole hell of a lot of pushback.

00:40:30.280 And I do think there is something of a great awakening, uh, to quote Alex Jones. I'm listening

00:40:34.820 to his book on audio book when I go jogging now, but I, people are realizing it. And, and I think at

00:40:39.440 some point they're going to say enough is enough and they're going to vote accordingly. Hopefully

00:40:42.660 right back in one second, Viva Fry. We're talking about shaking hands with the devil. Stay tuned. Be right back.

00:40:50.620 Zing in my ear about the boring people at your office. I'm trying to listen to the new human

00:40:58.840 events with Jack Pazovic. Jack Pazovic, we're back with Viva Fry. We're talking about, uh,

00:41:05.120 you've mentioned the, the Rwanda documentaries. There's shake hands of the devil. Ghosts of Rwanda

00:41:09.680 is the other one. Fantastic documentaries. If you want to see these things to understand

00:41:13.220 what evil is like in its purest form. And that guy remained a layer is someone who clearly saw it,

00:41:20.780 uh, upfront, by the way, since today is the June 4th anniversary of Tiananmen square. I always love

00:41:25.480 to remind people that who was it that sold the machetes to the Rwandans? Oh yes. The Chinese

00:41:30.960 communist party. Of course they had their own little, gave them a good deal. Uh, they had their

00:41:35.440 little piece in that as well, but, but Viva, let me, let me go through this theory of the case

00:41:39.400 on this, this child soldier theory that you're, you're discussing, because I keep hearing people

00:41:45.120 say again and again, they say, Oh, Trump, you know, the sentencing, they'll, they'll give him,

00:41:49.260 you know, probation. They'll give him community service or something. I made a joke about it. I

00:41:53.500 said, uh, I said they should give him four years community service at 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue.

00:41:57.420 That was a good one. And, uh, or potentially some are saying a lifetime sentence. I'm just,

00:42:02.420 you know, I don't know. Some are saying, and, um, under this theory though, that you've postulated

00:42:08.500 it wouldn't just be a slap on the wrist. They would actually have to put him behind bars.

00:42:14.980 Walk me through that. Well, I, I, I, I say that they've crossed so many Rubicons now that

00:42:19.900 they can't not cross this one. I there's the logistics issue to it that I think might be

00:42:24.860 determinant, but it's not going to be a slap on the wrist. I mean, I was picking the brain of

00:42:29.220 Dershowitz cause I listened to him as well to make sure I understand things. It's not going to be a

00:42:33.520 slap on the wrist. You don't go through a five week trial of the 34 felony charges of the first time

00:42:38.460 ever that you've done a theory of this, let alone on the president. You don't go through all of that

00:42:42.640 to then say, here's 5,000 bucks and a day community service. So they, they've got to come up with

00:42:47.840 something that is going to be sufficiently punitive, but not overly punitive where judge

00:42:52.780 Juan Marchand corrupt as he is gets overturned by the court of appeal. So I don't know what they're

00:42:58.000 going to do, but they're, they're, they're frothing at the mouth unhinged. And I, my one theory also

00:43:04.800 that I've been positing for a while now is that they're trying to facilitate a cataclysmic incident

00:43:09.800 involving Trump. And so even though say, Oh, one day in jail one day, and you'll figure it out with

00:43:15.740 secret service. Fine. What they're trying to do. And I've been convinced of this since compelling

00:43:19.240 Trump to show up for the Georgia mugshot. They don't, it was, it was a humiliation ritual on the

00:43:24.000 one hand, but I sincerely believe it's about also exposing him to the, uh, the range of unhinged

00:43:30.320 lunatics who now view this man as the existential threat if he gets elected. And so increase the

00:43:35.580 likelihood of something horrific happening by maximizing his exposure for purely unnecessary

00:43:40.620 reasons, make him show up for a six week trial in New York, drive in and out every day with

00:43:45.520 supporters on the one hand, but rabid lunatics on the other. So, and then they come up with the,

00:43:50.140 the disgrace act to strip convicted felon federal servants of, of secret service protection. I mean,

00:43:55.220 they're telling you what they're doing. And then they sick the FBI on a Mar-a-Lago raid with,

00:43:59.340 with plainclothes officers carrying box cutters, knowing that secret service is there. They are

00:44:04.000 trying to facilitate a cataclysmic incident, a cataclysmic clash or facilitate some lunatic,

00:44:10.220 you know, going, uh, not postal, but going baseball, like, um, what happened with Scalise in DC. So

00:44:16.420 that's what I think that they're trying to do. And so whatever way they can do that, increase the

00:44:20.200 odds. However, unlikely, that's part and parcel of the plan. You know, um, it, it also strikes me

00:44:26.680 that I would be remiss if I didn't mention that about two years ago, also you did an incredible,

00:44:33.500 very well-received pop-up podcast on the trial of Steve Bannon, uh, which I think it was six,

00:44:40.380 seven episodes was just incredible. The way you put it together, we had you on, I was co-host or I was

00:44:44.720 guest hosting war room while Steve was, uh, in, uh, was absent. Now we see that the sentencing for

00:44:51.380 that may come around again because, uh, he's just, uh, his appeal has been kicked back at the,

00:44:57.320 I believe the circuit level. There's hearing that's going to be taking place in two days

00:45:01.840 time, uh, in Washington DC. I wonder if you've done any analysis on this, or I could pick your brain

00:45:08.000 just a little bit. Do you think that given everything you saw during that case that the judge

00:45:13.760 will allow Steve to stay out on, uh, as he continues his appeals at the higher level all

00:45:20.940 the way up to the Supreme court, or do you think that we could get another type of decision this

00:45:24.640 Thursday? Well, I, I think the Navarro precedent now has certainly increased the odds of another

00:45:30.300 alternative, which is going to be jail him. And look, it's not a coincidence that all of these

00:45:35.280 things are happening at the same time. Uh, Navarro being jailed, Bannon potentially, I think will be

00:45:41.660 jailed because it's six months out of the election. Uh, the attack on Alex Jones and the attempt to

00:45:46.360 take him down the most vocal populist, uh, voice out there who they still blame for having gotten

00:45:52.480 Trump elected in 2016. So there are new factors to consider here. And I, I don't, I'm not so optimistic

00:45:58.200 for Bannon anymore. They need his voice off the air. Like they need all the other voices off the air

00:46:02.540 because they're implementing the 2020 election fortification 2.0, you know, change the laws,

00:46:08.000 change the rules like they've done to facilitate EG and Carol suing Trump, control the flow of

00:46:12.180 information, shutting down the big voices. And the easiest way to do that, send them off to jail.

00:46:16.420 The only problem is that might actually amplify the voices regardless of who they do it to,

00:46:20.500 because some of the Jan Sixers have been vocal from jail and some of the people that they've

00:46:24.100 jailed as go for it. Oh, no, it's the one question though. And, and you watch the trial,

00:46:29.800 I watched the trial, that judge in Bannon's case, he wasn't a Juan Mershon. He wasn't someone who was

00:46:35.640 totally in the tank. He was a Trump appointee. That being said though, to what you just said,

00:46:40.620 I think makes sense. Would he be willing to break with precedent now that's that Peter Navarro has

00:46:46.840 already set a precedent number one for being in prison. That's, that's been done at the DC circuit

00:46:51.300 level. And then number two, that Navarro has already had his appeals denied on similar grounds to

00:46:56.960 Bannon. Well, that is the, like I say, the courage is contagious to some extent. So is cowardice. And

00:47:03.560 so is corruption. So I, I won't, I won't impute any intentions to the judge, but it's not an accident

00:47:08.800 that after Colorado took Trump off the ballot, Maine decided to do it. I don't know, Michigan,

00:47:14.260 I think there was, I forget the other States that did it as well. It's not an accident that after,

00:47:19.020 I want to call him the nipple judge there, New York nipple judge, Engelron gagged Trump,

00:47:22.980 Trump that, what's her face, Chutkin gagged Trump, Juan Marchand gagged Trump. And so now that you see

00:47:29.000 it, on the one hand, it's empowerment in a negative sense, and it's also political pressure

00:47:34.000 in a cowardice sense. The judge might say, well, I can't set a different precedent with Bannon right

00:47:38.440 now. It's only four months. We can't wait forever. And his likelihood of success on the appeal is that

00:47:43.380 much less now given the other precedent. So just go serve your time. I wouldn't place bets on it.

00:47:48.820 We're talking about someone's freedom right now for a bloody contempt of, of, of congressional

00:47:53.080 subpoena rubbish for which I don't know who, how many people have been convicted, let alone

00:47:57.940 sentence, which, which by the way, by the way, we're just about out of time, but I have to also

00:48:01.820 mention that Merrick Garland is on, uh, you know, on TV right now, flaunting the fact that he's refusing

00:48:08.620 subpoenas from the very same Congress that he's got, uh, Peter Navarro in jail for, and his own

00:48:14.760 department is threatening to send Steve Bannon in jail for Viva Fry. Uh, really appreciate your

00:48:19.940 time, man. Honored to have you on. Where can people follow you? Thank you. Uh, the, the Viva Fry on

00:48:24.880 Twitter, Viva Fry on rumble and Viva Barnes law dot locals.com for the best community out there.

00:48:30.620 We, we love Viva and Barnes. I might have to, I might have to stop by there sometime soon. I don't

00:48:34.920 know. I don't know. Maybe I have to, maybe I have to cruise on over. All right. We'll chat, man. I'll

00:48:39.760 talk to you. Ladies and gentlemen, you have my permission to lay ashore. You want this country

00:48:45.260 back. You must stand up and fight for it.

Human Events Daily with Jack Posobiec - June 04, 2024

GARLAND KABUKI THEATER WHILE PATRIOTS ARE LED TO THE GULAGS

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