Human Events Daily with Jack Posobiec - January 15, 2025


GAZA CEASE FIRE, TEXAS LAW ON PORNHUB REACHES SCOTUS, TRUMP APPOINTMENT HEARINGS CONTINUE


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48 minutes

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166.39432

Word Count

8,112

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583

Misogynist Sentences

2

Hate Speech Sentences

12


Summary

Jack Posobrand, a commentator, international social media sensation, and former Navy intelligence veteran, joins host Jack Poso to discuss the latest in the ongoing Trump administration confirmation hearings, including the latest on Kash Patel, Tulsi Gabbard, and more.


Transcript

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00:00:30.000 This is what happens when the fourth turning meets fifth generation warfare.
00:00:39.700 A commentator, international social media sensation, and former Navy intelligence veteran.
00:00:46.400 This is Human Events with your host, Jack Poso.
00:00:49.980 We won World War II with seven four-star generals.
00:00:54.240 Today we have 44 four-star generals.
00:00:56.400 There's an inverse relationship between the size of staffs and victory on the battlefield.
00:01:04.300 Senator, to cut to the chase, you're clearly talking about Kash Patel.
00:01:08.260 I don't believe he has an enemies list.
00:01:10.560 I have known Kash, and I believe that Kash is the right person at this time for this job.
00:01:17.300 You'll have the ability to question Mr. Patel.
00:01:20.180 And I'm questioning you right now about whether you will enforce an enemies list that he announced publicly on television.
00:01:26.240 Oh, Senator, I'm sorry.
00:01:27.340 There will never be an enemies list within the Department of Justice.
00:01:30.760 House Republicans have yet again stood up for women.
00:01:33.580 Today, the House voted to uphold common sense again.
00:01:37.020 We voted to require all schools receiving federal funds to uphold the original meaning of Title IX and keep biological men out of women's sports.
00:01:46.960 Happening today at the nation's capital, the Supreme Court will weigh states' efforts to require pornography websites to verify their visitors' ages.
00:01:55.380 Texas and 18 other states have a similar law in place.
00:01:58.940 President-elect Donald Trump is doubling down on his tariff promise.
00:02:02.180 Yeah, he says a new agency will come into play on his first day back in office.
00:02:06.220 Trump announcing on Truth Social that he'll collect tariffs and other revenues from foreign countries under the external revenue service.
00:02:12.900 If those hostages aren't back, I don't want to hurt your negotiation.
00:02:17.940 If they're not back by the time I get into office, all hell will break out in the Middle East.
00:02:23.580 And it will not be good for Hamas, and it will not be good, frankly, for anyone.
00:02:28.260 Sources tell CBS News that both Israel and Hamas have agreed in principle to a ceasefire and hostage deal.
00:02:35.320 Ladies and gentlemen, welcome aboard today's edition of Human Events Daily here live in Washington, D.C.
00:02:44.260 Today is January 15, 2024, Anno Domini.
00:02:48.700 Folks, we can see the various hearings that continue up on Capitol Hill right now in the United States Senate.
00:02:55.660 We've got the great Russ vote there.
00:02:57.460 You've got Marco Rubio based Mike Lee, numerous friends and friends and family of Human Events Daily that are up there today.
00:03:06.760 As President Trump's advanced teams are boots on the ground in Washington, D.C.
00:03:12.880 Now, we're looking at this.
00:03:14.340 We're going to be tracking it throughout the entire day, making sure that it stays through.
00:03:18.560 First of all, by the way, I'll just throw this out there.
00:03:21.400 Yesterday, Pete won.
00:03:23.720 Pete Hegseth absolutely won.
00:03:25.400 And look, are you going to see a nomination hearing that goes as well as that did yesterday?
00:03:31.380 No, I don't think so, because Pete Hegseth is someone who's uniquely qualified from his years of media service,
00:03:37.840 as well as uniquely qualified from his years in the military to understand exactly how to put up or and make them shut up when it comes to all of the questions that went through yesterday.
00:03:49.200 Absolutely won.
00:03:50.000 And I certainly agree with what Senator Johnson said here yesterday in the program, that all of Trump's nominees are expected to be confirmed and should be confirmed.
00:03:59.520 But that doesn't mean there aren't headwinds.
00:04:01.380 Tulsi Gabbard, RFK, Kash Patel, numerous others all being delayed, all being held up.
00:04:06.580 Why?
00:04:07.360 Paperwork issues, we're told.
00:04:08.740 Paperwork.
00:04:09.100 No, no, no, no.
00:04:09.820 Senate.
00:04:10.660 You go and figure it out.
00:04:13.140 Senator John Thune, whoever else is out there, figure it out.
00:04:16.420 You get your job done.
00:04:17.620 And President Trump has done his job.
00:04:19.980 He delivered for the American people at the ballot box.
00:04:22.860 Then he went and delivered for the American people in terms of presenting them with the slate of nominees.
00:04:28.900 That is exactly what he promised.
00:04:31.740 Actual change agents at these variety of federal departments.
00:04:35.760 So now it's time for the Senate.
00:04:37.780 Do your homework.
00:04:39.040 Pull yourself up by your beach traps.
00:04:41.060 Eat your veggies and take your vitamins and get the nominees across the line.
00:04:45.740 And I don't want to hear any more about these paperwork issues or delays or this and that.
00:04:49.660 No, absolutely not.
00:04:50.800 And think of the boldness, by the well, of President Trump, putting them all up at the same time, in addition to taking what we were told was the, quote unquote, most controversial nominee of Pete Hegseth, and then taking him and putting him first right out of the gate.
00:05:06.240 That understands, more than anything else, that should make you understand, this is a new management.
00:05:11.740 There's a new sheriff in town.
00:05:13.640 His name is Donald J. Trump.
00:05:14.820 He hasn't arrived yet to Washington, D.C., but he'll be getting here in just a few days.
00:05:19.620 That's right, boys and girls.
00:05:21.140 You have less than five days left.
00:05:25.480 Five days time.
00:05:27.600 President Trump will be the 47th president of the United States of America.
00:05:33.420 And he better have the majority of his cabinet well on the way to confirmation by that time.
00:05:40.520 We've got a huge amount of events going on this weekend here in Washington, D.C.
00:05:44.220 This is becoming the center of the universe.
00:05:46.320 But there's a lot going on around the world as the Trump effect is already starting to set in.
00:05:51.880 Darren Beattie will be on with us just next to explain that.
00:05:54.460 Right back, Human Events.
00:05:55.300 You know, they talk about influencers.
00:06:02.300 These are influencers.
00:06:04.200 And they're friends of mine.
00:06:06.540 Jack Prasovic.
00:06:08.020 Where's Jack?
00:06:09.000 Jack.
00:06:09.980 He's done a great job.
00:06:11.900 All right, Jack Prasovic back here.
00:06:16.880 Live Human Events daily, Washington, D.C.
00:06:20.160 Five days.
00:06:20.920 You have five days left to the deep state, to all the rest.
00:06:26.020 You've only five days before President Trump's triumphant return here to Washington, D.C.
00:06:32.160 And his nominees are already marching up and down Capitol Hill.
00:06:37.040 And in fact, the Trump effect is already getting into place because I think people know by this point.
00:06:43.300 But if you haven't heard yet, that just about two hours ago, news came down of a ceasefire deal that has been brokered essentially by President Trump's representative to the Middle East, Steve Whitcoff.
00:06:55.500 Steve Whitcoff, by the way, the same individual who was golfing with President Trump, one of his just close personal best friends.
00:07:02.120 He was golfing with President Trump the day that Ryan Wesley Routh was there on the golf course at Trump International down in West Palm Beach.
00:07:11.240 So someone who presumably would have faced an extreme situation with President Trump had that not been uncovered.
00:07:19.020 We've got Darren Beattie here from Revolver News to talk us through this because, Darren, you and I were talking about the role of the America First movement in foreign policy.
00:07:29.460 And I suppose my question to you is, is that what we're already starting to see?
00:07:35.340 Absolutely. And we're starting to see it across a variety of domains across a variety of domains.
00:07:43.000 We're seeing it not only in the Middle East, we're seeing it hopefully in Ukraine.
00:07:48.840 I noticed that in Rubio's nomination hearing, he basically reiterated Trump's position that, yes, we need to bring an end to this conflict as well.
00:08:00.100 And so we're seeing in multiple theaters a very strong prognosis for peace and stability.
00:08:08.360 And Trump hasn't even been inaugurated yet.
00:08:10.860 So I think it's pretty exceptional that we're seeing this level of progress before day one.
00:08:18.320 We're in day negative five and we're already seeing a lot done.
00:08:22.960 So it's pretty tremendous.
00:08:24.660 And it really is tremendous.
00:08:29.780 And when we're looking at the broad swath of this, I think that there was an interesting take, and I'd love to get your sense on this,
00:08:38.140 that apparently there's been a lot of chatter about the fact that Netanyahu was even saying that he wasn't a huge fan of this deal,
00:08:44.660 that he wanted to be able to go further into Gaza, potentially take down all of northern Gaza.
00:08:50.060 And, you know, there was sort of this back and forth about how they wouldn't have the meeting at first,
00:08:54.200 but apparently Witkoff was able to get him to get him to come in.
00:08:58.440 And so we heard that Hamas had signed originally, and there was some back and forth on Netanyahu's side.
00:09:03.840 Trump and Netanyahu have had an interesting relationship, to say the least, over the last couple of years.
00:09:08.160 What's your take on that?
00:09:11.080 Well, I mean, I think we'll have to see.
00:09:12.760 I think the early signs are very positive.
00:09:15.300 But I think there's a real architecture in place now for in multiple theaters of the world.
00:09:23.940 And so we're seeing very positive signs already.
00:09:26.440 But again, you know, it's a lot of the resolutions are premature.
00:09:31.760 So we'll just have to see how it develops.
00:09:37.120 Well, I think that's right.
00:09:38.260 And of course, we know what these ceasefires, it also makes it also portends that, of course,
00:09:42.540 both sides are going to have to abide by that, and certainly something that has been an issue with various ceasefires, you know, in the past.
00:09:52.460 Absolutely.
00:09:53.160 Yeah, you have to have the right types of conditions, and there has to be some kind of reasonable expectation those conditions will be met.
00:10:00.180 And, you know, a lot of it will be contingent on just how much of the work has been done in terms of neutralizing a lot of the radical element in that region.
00:10:14.740 You know, Israel has had a long time to do it, but it's unclear to me whether the full job has been done.
00:10:20.720 And it seems just as a practical matter that would need to be completed to some kind of threshold degree before there can be any expectation of Hamas or whatever the future version is called not disrupting the terms of any kind of peace agreement.
00:10:40.320 That's exactly right.
00:11:10.320 An enlargement of NATO pushing in, but he was one of the guys who would go over there with John McCain, with Lindsey Graham, with Amy Klobuchar, so many others, meeting with Poroshenko, meeting with who was the original president before Zelensky came in.
00:11:29.580 I mean, this was a guy who has really gone on quite a journey when it comes to politics.
00:11:34.440 Indeed. I think it's, yet again, another major testament to Trump's leadership that within the rubric of Trump's leadership, I think Rubio can and will be an extremely effective secretary of state when aligned with this agenda.
00:11:52.720 And I think we see every indication that that's going to be the case, certainly the Ukraine-Russia issue is a critical litmus test for this because it's certainly one of those arenas in which U.S. involvement is highly questionable,
00:12:09.980 at least in the way that it's been under the Biden regime of simply throwing hundreds and hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of billions of dollars into this war machine that simply contributes to the needless, unnecessary deaths of both sides.
00:12:27.980 To the enrichment of what? To the betterment of what? Well, to the betterment of what? Well, to the betterment of defense contractors and to the betterment of corrupt oligarchs in both Ukraine and Russia.
00:12:41.020 And this is, you know, this is, you know, inconceivable from an America First standpoint.
00:12:48.440 And I think the guidestone is always the principle that I've advocated here on your show multiple times, and I haven't found any way to improve upon it, which simply is to say,
00:12:58.940 the victories of the victories of the American empire, the victories of the American system writ large, must also be the victories of the American people.
00:13:12.000 We can't have a foreign policy simply based on the enrichment of the defense industry.
00:13:17.840 We can't have an economy that simply exists for the enrichment of Wall Street and, you know, various special interests.
00:13:28.940 And we can't have an immigration and crime policy that's simply for the benefit of foreigners and criminals.
00:13:40.080 The victories of the American empire have to be the victories of the American people.
00:13:46.040 And I think that really is the crux.
00:13:48.460 That is the core and the essence and the guiding principle of what America First really is.
00:13:54.320 It's something where when I hear some of these nominees and various entities going out across, not Pete Hegseth, by the way, that would sole exception there, fantastic exception of hearing his issues with the military and walking through just chapter and verse, something you can tell is actually very studied.
00:14:17.560 And clearly he has the experience of being someone who's been on the battlefield in the conditions that we've lived in.
00:14:23.680 And Pete Hegseth, of course, came on this program about a year ago and talked about his experiences, having his having his orders pulled from being able to deploy to, by the way, defend the Biden inauguration, which would be four years ago on Monday.
00:14:39.920 I think that because of Christian tattoos that he had received while being in the military, believe me, if you want to go through all of the Christian tattoos and other various tattoos that we might find in the military, I think you're going to see the entire collapse of the United States national defense.
00:14:58.820 I mean, I mean, have you ever heard?
00:15:00.500 Go go spend some time with the Marines.
00:15:03.160 Go spend some time with the Rangers.
00:15:04.600 This is, you know, this is, wasn't it actually a policy?
00:15:08.660 Wasn't it, I could be wrong about this.
00:15:10.880 Was it at one time a policy in the military that you couldn't have tattoos and they basically relaxed that on the basis of basically everybody has one now or a very high percentage of the population?
00:15:24.280 They realized that would be an untenable policy.
00:15:26.960 Yes, that's correct.
00:15:28.980 That's correct.
00:15:29.720 And so the current, or at least when I was in, when I was in, it was kind of like, it was like you could have a tattoo, but as long as it was not visible while you're wearing your uniform.
00:15:40.960 So you would see people go and their tattoos would stop right where the uniform starts.
00:15:47.480 So you couldn't do the Mike Tyson.
00:15:51.420 Yeah, exactly.
00:15:52.020 Maybe they'll relax that in the future.
00:15:53.400 I mean, I could now as a civilian.
00:15:54.880 I've been thinking about it actually.
00:15:55.980 They can make an exception for, for Iron Mike, I suppose.
00:16:02.040 Actually, Tanya and I, yeah, Tanya and I were going to get, again, to get matching ones.
00:16:07.100 The fact that they're talking about a tattoo just shows you how ridiculous and petty the whole thing is.
00:16:13.300 I mean, this guy served his country on the highest levels in multiple domains.
00:16:17.980 He's a very, very skilled person in media, skilled communicator, and he's young, like he's exceptional.
00:16:28.260 And not the least of which, he took a very keen interest in our story on Bishop Garrison.
00:16:34.160 So that's also a major point in his favor, that he was actually the only person other than Tucker Carlson on Fox News that would have on yours truly.
00:16:44.900 And he was very interested in the Bishop Garrison story, which is just one story, but it was emblematic of this broader problem.
00:16:51.580 Darren, Darren, we're coming up on a really quick break, by the way.
00:16:57.080 And I want to finish what you were talking about with Bishop Garrison and also the headset, but I did also pull the, I pulled the policy update on the tattoos.
00:17:04.560 So just before we go to this break, very quickly, I mentioned that's what it was like when I was in.
00:17:08.660 But now, now the U.S. military allows tattoos on the neck, face, tongue, lips, eyes, scalp.
00:17:16.000 Other tattoos are allowed as long as they were not, not deemed offensive or excessive.
00:17:20.280 As long as they're smaller, as long as they're smaller than your hand, single band tattoos on the fingers.
00:17:29.180 Oh, my goodness.
00:17:30.280 Again, and don't even get me started on the hair regulations, complete relax in everything.
00:17:36.120 Folks, we're turning it all back.
00:17:38.340 We're bringing it all back.
00:17:39.340 Jack Posobiec, Darren Beatty.
00:17:40.260 Stay tuned.
00:17:46.180 I'm always listening to Human Events with Jack Posobiec.
00:17:50.280 All right, Jack Posobiec back here live, Human Events Daily, Washington, D.C.
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00:18:55.040 So we're on with Darren Beattie, and we're talking about this.
00:18:56.980 Darren, just before the break there, we were talking about how, yes, and by the way,
00:19:01.600 living in the D.C. area, we've got a lot of military here, tons of bases.
00:19:06.400 That's why I originally came down to the D.C. area in 2012.
00:19:09.480 And I, you know, what happens?
00:19:11.100 You meet a girl, you stick around, you know.
00:19:13.320 Donald Trump runs for office, and there you, you know, Bob's your uncle.
00:19:16.700 But the standards that I see just walking around when I see this from soldiers, from airmen,
00:19:25.520 from air force, and all the rest, it's very visible when you see people in uniform,
00:19:31.480 and you realize that that's not what my mental image of what a soldier or a sailor would have
00:19:39.840 looked like even as early or as late, I should say, as late as like 2005 when you look at those
00:19:45.020 soldiers marching up and down in the aftermath of Katrina in New Orleans or looking at some of
00:19:50.540 these other things, something has clearly gone wrong, and the standards are all over the place.
00:19:55.820 The hair is all over.
00:19:57.360 The tattoos are all over, as we just explained.
00:20:01.720 And so it seems as though the military is actually more interested in that and doing those types of
00:20:07.840 things to increase their, to try to meet their recruitment goals, which, by the way, are still
00:20:11.700 failing.
00:20:12.720 And then along comes Pete Hegseth and says, how about we pull women out of these combat units?
00:20:18.940 How about we go back to equal standards for everyone?
00:20:22.740 How about we go back to focusing on what we're good at and then creating something that actually
00:20:27.880 becomes a beacon for those in our society who would qualify for said positions?
00:20:33.300 Darren, it didn't get this way all by chance, did it?
00:20:37.220 No.
00:20:37.960 And look, you know, traditionally, the military has been one of the major meritocracies that has
00:20:45.320 lapsed considerably, to say the least.
00:20:48.800 And I think Hegseth's mission of reestablishing a culture of meritocracy is critical for the
00:20:56.940 future success of the United States and for us to be respected around the world.
00:21:02.860 It's as simple as that.
00:21:05.120 That's going to involve more than simply purging the purgers.
00:21:09.640 We were talking about Bishop Garrison, the person we identified in a major Revolver.news piece
00:21:15.320 that Pete Hegseth took a personal interest in.
00:21:19.680 And this was the ideological veteran chief who was managing the sort of political purge of
00:21:26.020 the Pentagon, who had a very public record of being viciously anti-Trump, anti-Tucker Carlson,
00:21:34.940 anti-anybody you can think of who's propounded an America First agenda.
00:21:41.300 And so cleaning that out is just the precondition for putting an organization like the Pentagon
00:21:47.320 on a proper footing.
00:21:48.820 We also need to restore that culture of meritocracy that I think really people engaged in such
00:21:56.680 serious activity really crave a culture of meritocracy.
00:22:01.300 I can't, I've never served in the military myself, but I can only imagine how utterly
00:22:07.640 devastating this is to morale, to have the political gamesmanship trump meritocracy when
00:22:15.960 it comes to things as high stakes as winning wars.
00:22:24.580 And that's really what it comes down to.
00:22:26.580 I mean, and there've, there've been a ton of people shout out to a bowtied ranger and
00:22:30.720 others who have been posting about their experiences.
00:22:33.960 And, and by the way, this is a perfect example to sort of veer off in a second here for a second
00:22:39.960 about why it's so important when you're living in a society like ours with these institutions
00:22:45.140 that we maintain anonymity online, because you can have people that are currently serving who
00:22:51.740 know that they would face personal and professional repercussions for blowing the whistle and coming
00:22:57.420 out and talking about what's happening in these various areas.
00:23:00.080 But you can go on X right now and find all of these add on accounts, people who were army
00:23:06.760 rangers who people who served in variety of special forces capacities and people who will
00:23:11.860 do so with their true name as well.
00:23:13.620 But they're telling you that we know, we all know that these policies don't work, that they
00:23:19.700 destroy unit cohesion, that they destroy any ability for, for mission success.
00:23:26.980 And yet they are constantly harped on by the leadership, by the generals and others to come
00:23:32.640 down.
00:23:33.080 And Darren, we even had a, what was it?
00:23:35.020 Senator Kramer yesterday, Senator Kramer from North Dakota.
00:23:37.640 I'll never forget this part where he said, he said, maybe you should give the generals a
00:23:41.620 chance, Pete, maybe you should just give them a chance and see if they're willing to walk
00:23:46.680 away from this.
00:23:47.540 And can't we all just get along?
00:23:49.380 Do you really have to get rid of all the generals that are pushing this?
00:23:52.200 And I wonder, Darren, if there are people who have the stomach for understanding how
00:23:57.220 bad the problem actually is.
00:24:00.120 Oh, it's tremendously bad.
00:24:02.060 And I was going to say, while it's still on my mind, another very positive thing, and
00:24:06.520 I think it's very critical.
00:24:07.540 It's not just a symbolic issue, is that Hegseth is very much opposed to the politically motivated
00:24:16.940 renaming of various military installations and bases.
00:24:21.300 Of course.
00:24:22.860 For sensitivities related to the South.
00:24:26.020 Now, look, I am not a fan of former Chief of Staff John Kelly at all for a variety of
00:24:36.160 reasons.
00:24:37.100 But even he could acknowledge what serious people, including presidents, including Churchill, and
00:24:44.640 everyone who acknowledges that he had respect for Robert E. Lee.
00:24:49.540 He had respect for what happened in America's history.
00:24:55.160 And that respect was par for the course, across the board, North and South, even President
00:25:02.040 JFK, no Southerner.
00:25:03.600 Everybody understood that it was only on the basis of mutual respect for the soldiers that
00:25:12.000 a reconciliation could take place going into the future.
00:25:15.900 And also, up to this day, my understanding is, disproportionate number of people who go into the military, especially in
00:25:27.200 those really life-risking roles in infantry, these people come from the South.
00:25:34.220 So it's a very particular kind of slap in the face that the military would go out of its way to offend that sort of consensus of respect to really spit on the ancestors of many people who are currently in harm's way and in danger for no reason whatsoever other than to score political points.
00:26:01.440 So I think that's also very telling as to positive direction and really positive outlook that Hegseth has is that he would understand why that problem needs to be corrected and the bases will need to be renamed to their proper and original names.
00:26:20.260 Right. And we remember on New Year's Day, we had that sort of these dual terror attacks or strange incidents that involved soldiers who both served on Fort Bragg and everybody referred to it in every single outlet and every single tweet and every single utterance.
00:26:40.400 They kept saying Fort Bragg, even though, of course, you know, we're not supposed to call it Fort Bragg.
00:26:44.800 No, it is Fort Bragg. President Trump has said this as well as including, by the way, Mount McKinley and Barrow, Alaska and all of these other different name changes that have gone on.
00:26:55.760 Certain things are sacred.
00:26:56.880 And we all know that it was done. Yeah, it's and we realized that this was done from a position of a revolutionary regime to push out the history, by the way.
00:27:08.160 And, you know, I say this as a guy who's from Pennsylvania, but one of the reasons I didn't even know this, but one of the reasons that a lot of those bases got their names, a lot of one of the reasons that you have the Confederate section at Arlington National Cemetery, which I'm not even currently sure what the status is.
00:27:23.520 There was a Supreme Court case on it that the idea was, as a country, we have to come back together again.
00:27:30.460 So, you know, it's interesting. We were talking about, you know, Panama and the the Guantanamo Bay and some of these other things that went on in terms of the Teddy with where Teddy Roosevelt came up.
00:27:43.180 And it was, in fact, the Spanish-American War was held only about 30 years after the Civil War.
00:27:49.460 And so you had, as you say, these southern soldiers that were participating in the same units or, you know, possibly the same campaigns as northern soldiers.
00:28:00.040 And so the idea was that we are going to come back together again as a country rather than demonize either side for all of the various issues that they went to the war.
00:28:09.760 But instead, understand that we all want to live in the same country again.
00:28:13.440 And so we are going to respect the history, the warrior spirit.
00:28:16.840 We're going to respect the fact of the soldiers who fought.
00:28:19.600 Yeah, obviously, we can disagree with the reasons and the politics of the situation. Fine.
00:28:23.680 But the point was, is that you would show respect to the generals like A.P. Hill, General Bragg, General Hood and all the various others through the names of these bases.
00:28:35.120 And that's something to allow them to have that respect and to understand, by the way, that yours is a place in America.
00:28:41.960 Darren Beattie, last minute to you.
00:28:43.040 Yeah, I totally agree.
00:28:46.460 And again, very encouraging.
00:28:48.300 There's a lot of things to correct, not only in the Department of Defense, but in the FBI.
00:28:54.820 I mentioned last time we talked that we'd have a major piece on that Loudermilk pipe bomb report that is fresh off the press, just published it an hour ago.
00:29:04.320 So people should go to Revolver.News and read that and read what future FBI Director Kash Patel has on a silver platter in order to finally expose this pipe bomb January 6th scandal.
00:29:18.580 There's a lot of work to be done all around.
00:29:22.120 Biden screwed things up immeasurably, as did a lot of his compatriots.
00:29:28.320 And so there's a lot to be done, but Trump is doing a great job so far and he hasn't even been inaugurated.
00:29:35.000 So I am very optimistic about the future.
00:29:40.760 Amen.
00:29:41.420 Darren Beattie, go give him a follow.
00:29:43.360 Revolver.News.
00:29:44.880 Make sure you're watching.
00:29:45.920 Make sure you're checking out all of the white hot pieces that are coming up.
00:29:49.460 Coming up next year, Attorney General Ken Paxton of the great state of Texas.
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00:30:17.780 Where is Jack?
00:30:19.960 Where is he?
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00:30:24.920 Great job, Jack.
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00:30:28.600 You know, we have an incredible thing.
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00:31:53.820 We're very honored here on the program for Human Events Daily to now welcome on Attorney General Ken Paxton of the great state of Texas.
00:32:02.580 General Paxton, how are you?
00:32:03.740 I'm doing well.
00:32:04.300 Thanks for having me on, Jack.
00:32:07.620 Oh, it's an absolute honor.
00:32:09.040 So walk us through.
00:32:10.400 Drew, you've had a huge day today over at the Supreme Court.
00:32:14.900 This hearing and this case regarding the age verification law that Texas has put up regarding pornographic sites.
00:32:25.300 This is one of the first times that it's gone up to the Supreme Court.
00:32:28.960 The hearing was held today.
00:32:30.540 Walk us through your side of it.
00:32:32.540 Yeah, so let me give you the background.
00:32:33.880 So this law was passed in the last legislative session, which ended May approximately a year and, what, seven, eight months ago.
00:32:42.620 It went into effect.
00:32:44.200 It was overwhelmingly supported by Republicans and Democrats.
00:32:47.640 And then we started enforcing the law.
00:32:49.860 It was my job to enforce the law, and the law was pretty simple.
00:32:53.120 It asked these porn sites to do age verification to make sure that the people that were looking at these sites were at least 18.
00:33:01.880 If they were 18, then there's no problem.
00:33:03.940 If they were under 18, then they were to exclude them.
00:33:07.300 It was simply designed to protect children.
00:33:09.660 And most people, I think, would agree, at least in Texas and I guess most of the country,
00:33:13.720 that that's something that you would want your government to do is to protect children from viewing obscene material or other material that might be objectionable to their parents.
00:33:23.620 And so that's what happened.
00:33:24.440 And we started enforcing this because many of these sites were not doing the age verification.
00:33:29.560 They sued us.
00:33:30.240 We actually lost in district courts.
00:33:32.400 They chose the court, and we lost, and we got an injunction put on us, which stopped us from enforcing the law.
00:33:37.840 We appealed it to the Fifth Circuit, and we got the injunction stayed so that we could start enforcing the law.
00:33:42.820 And then these porn sites that have a little free speech, they called some free speech group, sued, took it to the U.S. Supreme Court.
00:33:53.220 And that was what we were doing today was defending our law, hoping to keep that stay in place while the litigation goes on and continue to protect children under Texas law.
00:34:02.120 And so one of the interesting pieces of the case that I saw, I was jumping between different hearings today.
00:34:13.100 We had the Senate hearings with the nominees and the Supreme Court hearing.
00:34:16.620 It's all going on at the same time.
00:34:18.160 So really, things are picking up so much in D.C.
00:34:20.980 But one of the interesting pieces that I saw regarding this was the Texas side was arguing, and I think it's a very strong argument, that there are lots of things that are regulated for age verification when you would go and purchase them at a store.
00:34:35.700 For example, under 18 for tobacco, under 21 for alcohol or various firearms restrictions based on age.
00:34:44.380 All of these things exist, and everyone is quite familiar with them, or R-rated movies, quite familiar with them when you're doing so in person.
00:34:51.920 And basically what the attorney was arguing was that it's the exact same concept, just applying that in the digital space.
00:34:59.100 No, that's exactly right.
00:35:00.140 I think it's been, it's our history.
00:35:01.740 I mean, as long as we've been a country, we protect children from certain things.
00:35:06.360 And as you mentioned, tobacco and firearms and certain movies and now, you know, porn websites.
00:35:13.680 And so I think most Americans would agree.
00:35:16.640 Certainly, I know that, oh, this was overwhelmingly passed by the red legislation.
00:35:20.520 It was not controversial at all.
00:35:22.300 And I don't think it's controversial in America that we are going to protect children.
00:35:26.020 So that's all we're trying to do here.
00:35:27.820 We're not trying to shut these sites down.
00:35:29.020 We realize there is a First Amendment right for adults to view whatever they want, and that's certainly up to them.
00:35:35.460 But with kids, we treat them as a separate category.
00:35:38.200 We've done it in different areas of the law, and we do it in the areas that you've just talked about.
00:35:44.160 And so that's all this is.
00:35:45.320 It's a very simple argument.
00:35:46.160 And even the other side, the free speech side, came in and admitted that the state does have a compelling interest in protecting children.
00:35:54.440 They just don't like how we're doing it.
00:35:56.160 And they have other, I guess, what they would call less intrusive ways of doing that.
00:36:00.740 However, the ways that they are suggesting have not been effective in preventing minors from viewing these materials.
00:36:06.160 So what are some of these debates and the counter-arguments that they're talking about, these less intrusive measures?
00:36:16.040 Oh, so they want some type of content moderation standards.
00:36:22.000 They've never, it hasn't really stopped kids from viewing.
00:36:25.320 It doesn't, it's not effective.
00:36:27.140 The only way to make this effective that we've seen, and that's why the legislature did it, there was a lot of study done on this.
00:36:32.260 This has occurred over many years.
00:36:35.640 But they didn't really specify much as to solutions.
00:36:39.720 They just said they needed less intrusive, more thoughtful ways of doing this.
00:36:45.100 But they didn't really offer up solutions to this problem that actually worked, that we know.
00:36:51.100 I mean, they offered nothing up, just that we needed to do something different.
00:36:54.020 Which, in my mind, is just stalling and trying to push this off for another day.
00:36:59.880 But the reality is, this is a very sensible, common-sense way of dealing with the problem.
00:37:06.720 Just make sure that these people that are viewing it are 18 or older.
00:37:10.900 Well, and I actually remember, I'm going through some of the minutes here of the case, where even Supreme Court Justice Clarence Thomas pointed out that, in fact, going on the Internet and accessing something is fundamentally different than walking into a store.
00:37:29.280 Because it's easier, it's more pervasive, it can be done anywhere.
00:37:34.000 Teenagers have cell phones all over the place.
00:37:38.960 There's no block on this whatsoever.
00:37:41.060 So rather than having to go into the store and at least pass through that basic check of a cashier or the clerk who's waiting there, this is actually delivered straight into your own home.
00:37:53.560 Right under the nose of parents who, you know, it's not the old magazines under the mattress anymore.
00:38:00.240 This is just right there already.
00:38:02.480 Yeah, you make a very good point.
00:38:03.760 He made a very good point, which is it's, you know, push of a button.
00:38:06.700 And you're on these websites and access to, you know, all kinds of stuff and large volumes of it.
00:38:13.960 And if you think about it, I mean, it's not been controversial that you have to show a photo ID if you go into, you know, adult stores or strip clubs or whatever.
00:38:25.140 That's not controversial.
00:38:26.260 Why is that not a problem?
00:38:28.320 And somehow, because it's online and easier to get to, somehow this is a violation of free speech rights.
00:38:34.060 Look, I would broadly interpret the First Amendment and say, you know, protections for adults are extremely broad and the state does have to show a compelling interest and it should be strictly interpreted.
00:38:45.620 But when you're dealing with children with materials that could be harmful to their mental health, potentially their physical health, we have an obligation as a country and as a state of Texas to protect those children because they're not going to be able to make the right decisions at the ages that we're talking about.
00:39:04.060 Well, that's exactly right.
00:39:06.020 And we're seeing this more and more.
00:39:07.440 And, you know, I've got, you know, I've got two little boys, age four and six, and they're already, you know, asking us, mommy and daddy, can we use the tablets?
00:39:15.880 You know, we want to play this game.
00:39:17.280 They already know, you know, how to bypass their and my six year old is figuring out my passwords pretty much on a weekly basis now.
00:39:24.100 So I have to keep jumping past him and I'll pop up and he's he's on YouTube.
00:39:27.900 Now, fortunately, at this point, when I catch him on YouTube, he's usually just watching Lego videos and trying to figure out how to, you know, how to build the next the next project.
00:39:36.440 So not not too upset about that.
00:39:38.540 But of course, you know, I understand that as soon as he gets older, he is going to want to start branching out into that wider Internet.
00:39:44.700 He's going to be looking at more things.
00:39:46.320 He's going to be fed references to things.
00:39:48.340 And certainly, I mean, YouTube is another conversation, you know, we could have about the stuff that gets forwarded to children on that thing that is not vetted in any way.
00:39:58.160 And unfortunately, then when they click the links, they jump away from YouTube.
00:40:01.480 They think they're looking at something that's just Legos and they bounce around to another one.
00:40:05.620 By the way, folks, when we clear about something before the break, we do not allow them unsupervised YouTube access.
00:40:12.680 We'll be right back with Attorney General Ken Paxton.
00:40:15.020 We're talking about how should pornography sites face any state regulation regarding age verification.
00:40:21.840 Stay tuned.
00:40:22.160 We'll be right back.
00:40:32.780 Jack is a great guy.
00:40:34.320 He's written a fantastic book.
00:40:36.040 Everybody's talking about it.
00:40:37.240 Go get it.
00:40:38.340 And he's been my friend right from the beginning of this whole beautiful event.
00:40:41.820 And we're going to turn it around and make sure it's actually quite a good time.
00:40:45.620 Amen.
00:40:50.440 All right, Jack Wasubic back live.
00:40:52.340 Human Events Daily.
00:40:53.320 We're on with Attorney General Ken Paxton of the great state of Texas, where he was at the U.S. Supreme Court defending the Texas new law regarding age verification for pornographic sites.
00:41:05.100 By the way, I know this is an issue that really gets a lot of people going because on the, you know, more of the conservative side, people will say, yes, you know, we want to protect the kids.
00:41:15.360 But then you'll get your libertarian types who say, no, no, it should all be free.
00:41:19.280 You can't put those restrictions on the on on companies like that.
00:41:23.320 So if you have a take on this, if you have an opinion, send us your email, 1776 at humanevents.com.
00:41:32.220 So, A.T. Paxton, let me actually bring that up then.
00:41:34.840 So regarding the First Amendment question, this has been obviously the crux, I would say, of Pornhub's argument and the free speech coalition, as they're calling themselves.
00:41:44.660 It's not just Pornhub, there's other sites out there, but they say that they have First Amendment protections and that this law would restrict the First Amendment.
00:41:54.000 What is your response to that?
00:41:55.140 Look, I agree with that.
00:41:57.020 First Amendment is broad.
00:41:59.500 It covers almost anything you can say.
00:42:02.700 But, you know, you can't yell fire in a movie house, even if you're an adult.
00:42:06.960 So we have recognized throughout our history some limitations that are that override free speech.
00:42:13.020 And there are very few, but this is one of them.
00:42:15.100 And it's protecting our kids because they don't have the mental capacity at young ages to make the right kind of decisions.
00:42:21.180 And so, you know, we don't let minors enter into contracts.
00:42:25.000 Is that discriminating against minors or is it protecting minors?
00:42:28.060 We have long protected minors in all kinds of different situations.
00:42:33.160 And you mentioned some of them earlier about tobacco and vaping.
00:42:36.400 You can't get you can't you can't get you can't vape unless you're 18 years of age.
00:42:40.420 So these kind of significant decisions, you know, we just don't let minors make them because we know that their brain is not fully developed.
00:42:48.680 And we try to protect them from some from things like obscene materials and from making contracts that would tie them up in a bad situation.
00:42:57.340 And that's really what it comes down to is, you know, it doesn't seem like you're trying to shut down these companies.
00:43:07.740 It doesn't seem like Texas is attempting to say that they can't operate.
00:43:11.660 But what it is, it's the flip side of that.
00:43:14.120 It's a basic protection for the rights of parents, for the rights of children.
00:43:18.500 And again, it goes well, it goes in the line of the well-established protections and powers given to the states to be able to regulate these things, whether it's gambling or which, by the way, is another huge issue coming in with with kids under 18.
00:43:33.660 You know, I don't think that and it's interesting, by the way, because you usually do hear this when it comes to the gambling sites.
00:43:39.460 They usually say right up front they're totally fine with age verification.
00:43:43.160 Yeah. And it's interesting to me.
00:43:44.560 Obviously, it affects their bottom line.
00:43:46.020 They must because you would think that they would expect that we're going to regulate anything that has to do with children.
00:43:53.460 And they know the research and they know that there are damaging effects to what's what's going on here and very young people looking at these websites and they know all of that.
00:44:03.320 And yet here they are in court arguing against what I would consider the most basic, most reasonable law that that we pass, which is children protect children first and let adults choose as they please.
00:44:16.760 That's right. And for a lot of that, too, for many of these sites, it comes down to right when you're purchasing something regarding gambling sites, it's baked in because you're going to need a credit card to pay.
00:44:31.460 So you would already have to verify for getting your credit card in the first place.
00:44:35.340 Now, you know, our kids going to steal mom and dad's credit card and put that in.
00:44:38.840 Sure, maybe. But eventually that will be caught.
00:44:41.520 The issue, of course, with the pornographic sites is it's free by and large.
00:44:46.820 They can go to the site.
00:44:47.940 They can watch whatever they want.
00:44:49.840 There's no verification.
00:44:51.320 They can get right in there.
00:44:52.740 And we've seen already in this.
00:44:54.680 This, by the way, was a huge part of the briefing today regarding the mental and psychological damage that is done to kids when they start accessing this type of content at a young age.
00:45:04.920 Yeah. And look, I mean, you saw some of the arguments.
00:45:08.700 None of these justices appeared to even come close to arguing that the state doesn't have a compelling interest in protecting children.
00:45:16.520 I actually, I don't know many people that would argue differently.
00:45:20.180 Even the coalition, the free speech coalition, argued that it admitted that we had a right to, we had a compelling interest in regulating this type of activity.
00:45:31.720 They're just trying to make it ineffective.
00:45:33.580 That's all it is.
00:45:34.100 And I understand they have a profit motive, but the reality is they also know that what they're arguing will not work for us, that we will not be able to protect children.
00:45:42.340 And so they're willing to trade that off for profit.
00:45:44.920 That's what it looks like to me.
00:45:46.380 And I think one of the justices is actually, I think Clarence Thomas or one of the other justices clearly said that in the arguments.
00:45:53.020 Oh, no, it was Alito that said it's just about profit.
00:45:55.840 That's what this is.
00:45:56.600 And that's, I think that's true.
00:46:00.980 And that's absolutely right.
00:46:02.300 And that gets into some of the deeper issues that I think are going on in our country right now when we look at these types of things and we ask ourselves, you know, I was, I always use It's a Wonderful Life and the contrast between Bedford Falls and Pottersville, right?
00:46:16.700 When he goes to, by the way, my favorite Christmas, my favorite Christmas music movie.
00:46:20.960 So I like that, that it's the best.
00:46:23.820 It's the absolute best.
00:46:25.000 And what do you, and what do you see in the, you know, sort of the nightmare version?
00:46:28.800 You know, the, it's, it's, it's the, it's gambling, it's alcohol everywhere.
00:46:33.480 It's girls, girls, girls everywhere.
00:46:35.740 It's, it's all of this vice.
00:46:37.640 So the idea is, and, and of course, Mr. Potter loves it because he makes lots of money and when everybody spends all their money at his establishments, well, he's got his little, got a shanty town at the edge of, you know, at the edge of the edge of the city there and they can go live in a shanty town.
00:46:51.880 And so it's, it's representing two different visions, I think, of what a town could be and what America could be.
00:46:59.320 And that's where I think a lot of people draw the line.
00:47:02.020 It's about having a place that's actually healthy for families and healthy for children rather than just putting profit motive over everything.
00:47:10.120 Yeah.
00:47:10.300 Look, I'm not, I'm not against companies making profits.
00:47:13.820 What I'm against is companies making profits at the expense of children's lives.
00:47:17.620 And, you know, I think the arguments that the free speech coalition made about, you know, sure, yes, the state has a compelling interest.
00:47:26.740 I think they knew that they could not go in and argue, no, the state has no interest in protecting children.
00:47:32.720 That just sounds like a horrible message, right, a loser message.
00:47:35.720 So they kind of argue out of both sides of their mouth.
00:47:38.140 They make, they make the argument that the state can do it, but oh, oh, oh, you can't do anything that actually works.
00:47:43.960 You can't do age, I mean, how controversial should age verification be?
00:47:47.080 To me, it's, it should be non-controversial.
00:47:50.480 And yet they're fighting one of the simplest ways for us to protect children because in reality, while they say that we have an interest, they do not actually believe it.
00:48:01.600 Amen.
00:48:02.300 A.G. Paxton, thank you so much for joining us here.
00:48:05.220 Congratulations on a great hearing up at the Supreme Court.
00:48:08.000 Make sure you're following him because I expect big things to come out of that A.G.'s office this year down in Texas.
00:48:13.900 Ladies and gentlemen, as always, you have my permission to lay a short.
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