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In this episode of Human Events Daily, host Jack Posco talks with retired Gen. James O'Keefe about his new media summit in Washington, D.C. on October 30th, 2025. They discuss censorship, the need for independent media, and the need to protect the truth from the intelligence community.
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This is what happens when the fourth turning meets fifth generation warfare.
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A commentator, international social media sensation, and former Navy intelligence veteran.
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This is Human Events with your host, Jack Poso.
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Today we have a very special edition of Human Events daily for you.
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It is mischief night, as we used to call it in Philly.
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And look, we are here at General Flynn's new media summit.
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And we're so glad that Real America's Voice, Human Events Daily, are able to be here and
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Because we're meeting with people from all across the spectrum, and in fact, all across
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Even some folks who are joining us from Ukraine that are here, that have been on the front
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They're going to tell us the truth and give us ground truth, including video, people who
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go to the front lines, people that go into even occupied areas, to tell us what's actually
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going on behind those lines in ways that the mainstream media just will not do.
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How you can actually get the facts, spread it out through using social media, using independent
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networks like Real America's Voice over the top, and then going and telling that story.
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So we're going to be here holding this summit, this meeting of the minds.
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James O'Keefe is here, Laura Logan is here, Ava Vlar is here.
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We've got an incredible, incredible lineup for you.
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So we're going to be having, we're going to be showing that on Real America's Voice all
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But then also, we are going to be doing a sit down right now with General Flynn himself,
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When I was a DIA intelligence analyst, a very, very young E-5 petty officer, IS-2 Posovic,
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when I went on my deployment to Guantanamo Bay, and he was three-star general director
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Because this is what it's all about, the interplay between information and truth and policy.
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We've seen over the last 10 years the lies from the mainstream media, the lies from the
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intelligence community, and we're fighting them every single day.
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Yesterday, the revelations that came out about the FBI's Operation Arctic Frost, the targeting
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of TPUSA, the targeting even of MyPillow, and their banks, and Mike Lindell.
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We were living through a version of the American Stasi.
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General Flynn came out, blew the whistle on it, and he paid a price for that.
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And he suffered for that, and he was attacked for that, and he was raked over the coals for
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that, but we're so glad that he's here to sit down with us today at Human Events Daily to
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Really excited to be here with General Flynn for yet another summit in Washington, D.C.
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So tell us about what is the purpose and the goal of today's summit?
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Yeah, so a couple of years ago, I had a great conversation with a group of some of these
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podcasters who were just emerging, you know, on the scene of what we have seen, and I'd
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call it the podcast presidency because guys like you and others that have giant followings
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and you're leading a message of essentially we've got to save America, right?
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I mean, I think the big picture, Jack, is everybody sees the threat that we are facing here internally
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to our country, and one of the big topics that we're going to talk about today is censorship
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So this is a means that's been going on for a couple of years.
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I now have an opportunity with the Gold Institute to organize this effort.
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We have over 200 essentially people that operate in the world of social media and podcasting,
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We have over north of 75 million viewers for today's audience, and you know, when you start
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talking about impressions, we have tens of billions of impressions from some of the types
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This is just a sort of an open forum, an initial step, initial stage to start organizing the independent
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As a military guy, I'm just trying to say, okay, to move forward as a nation, how do we
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And frankly, one of the things that you'll hear me talk about today, Jack, is that, you
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know, President Trump is really in this, he's really taken on the institutions of government,
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certainly in the United States, not just overseas, but the institutions of government, and he's,
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You know, I mean, to metaphorically say he's slashing and burning these institutions of government,
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I think the rise of what we now know as fake news, right, people can define that however
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they want, but there's clearly, there is a lot of untruth, misinformation, a lot of things
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out there, and what you have in this room behind me is a bunch of courageous entrepreneurs
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who have said, look, you know, we want a voice, and we're going to have a voice.
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And one thing that I, and I'll get off my dime here, there are people in here that have
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audiences of 75,000, and there's people in here with audiences of 5 million.
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The people that have 75,000, those are deeply loyal audiences because they've stuck with
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Some of it's regionally, but we certainly have, you know, global representation in here with
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people from Europe primarily, and Eastern Europe as well.
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We have a Ukrainian woman, I won't mention her name now because I'd screw it up, but
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She's got an audience of 3 or 4 million from Ukraine, and she's got an interesting view
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So part of this is not just to talk about the current situation, it's to talk about how
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Because thank God that we have Elon Musk, and he opened up X, opened up, you know, bought Twitter
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and turned it into X, and we have this great platform, which is great.
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But if that changes, and you just don't know, where else do you go?
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What are the battlefields of the future that we are going to have to operate on?
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And, you know, and as you know, you've helped me, you know, promote it, you know, Boone Cutler,
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He and I wrote the book on fifth generation warfare.
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We're going to talk a little bit about that today.
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And even before we get into that, I was going to say, though, just picking up what you're
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saying, that we've seen so much how in this town, and obviously you, in your past position
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as the director at the EIA, you've seen how the flow of information, and by the way, not
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Whether it's, so if you're getting your news, you're getting your worldview, your mindset
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from CNN, from MSNBC, from the Washington Post, I've always seen this dichotomy where people
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will get that mindset and then they bring it into the skiff, right, so that everything
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that they're looking at is colored already by what they just watched on TV.
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So the question is, how do you drive good policy if you're starting from a bad mindset?
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And that's where I think independent media and the independent drivers of these narratives,
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you mentioned Ukraine, you know, the battlefield right there, who's winning, right?
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It kind of depends on who you're listening to, what's really going on on the ground.
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You're following this guy, you're following that guy.
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And as usual, the truth is probably somewhere in the middle.
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But I think that's one of the key differences in what we've seen driving President Trump's
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rise and really the rise of alternative media is that it's not just having a difference of
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We're having a difference of fact at this point.
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And I think the word that I would capture with everything you just said is discernment.
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So discernment has to do with, and I'll just use my definition of what I believe it is,
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discernment has to do with looking at an issue, looking at information, taking a deep breath,
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stepping back, and not just emotionally rolling with whatever the initial judgment is, okay?
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Because I just used the word judgment, which is different than discernment.
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So discernment, what I, and I'll talk about this here with this crowd, you know, let's
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And let's take a step back, look at the information that's being presented, make some judgments about
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Because if you want to continue in this world where people really do believe you because
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you're an honest guy and you come across very honestly, then you have to drive for the
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Because the one thing about the truth, and I always, I learned this in the, you know, as
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a young officer, there's three sides of the truth.
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There's your side, there's my side, and then there's the truth.
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So what we want to try to do is drive ourselves closer to what the actual truth is.
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I don't know, but you can get, you can get really close to it, especially, you know, in other
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And it's like, well, if I see a red car, it's a red car, right?
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And it's like, no, it's a red car and it's parked, and it's actually a red car and it's
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I can't, I'm not sure I can convince that person that says it's a blue car and it's
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So I don't want to waste a lot of time with that person.
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And if there's people that are listening to them, you know, they're injured.
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I think that they're intellectually injured by that kind of discernment, if, you know,
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And we have people here that are on both sides of not necessarily the political aisle, we'll
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see, but we definitely have people on different issues that are on different sides for some
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We're not here today to talk about the current events of the day.
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We're here to talk about understanding the future of alternative media, because as we've
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seen, and we're going to show a couple of charts here, we've seen the decline of corporate
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media, the decline of advertising, for sure, and the rise of advertising and the rise of
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alternative media, because people know, well, that's where people are going, right?
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And we see, you know, Barack Obama recently, I think in the last couple of days, he's been
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out there, and I think a month or so ago, he was out in Stanford, if I'm not mistaken,
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where he was talking about, he's talking about we have to relook how, you know, the information
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So we do have people from Congress, a couple of people from Congress later in the afternoon,
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they're going to come in and talk about legislation, legislation here in the United States of
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America to basically protect us against censorship.
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And we also have somebody who's going to talk about some of the European Union type
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legislation that is occurring there, too, because there's censorship going on all over
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I mean, I have my views on what I like to see or what I believe should be on a social media
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I mean, I have a nonprofit that fights child trafficking, as an example, right?
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So I don't, you know, anybody that gets involved in that.
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So this is where people are going to have to judge what is actually displayed on social
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And, you know, and that's part of the discussion.
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I don't know what the final result will be here today other than that.
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We'll bring that, we'll bring those lessons together.
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We are, everybody here, and to include yourself, will get a save the date for an alternative media
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gala where I want to recognize the excellence that we have in alternative media.
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I want to recognize some of the courageous podcasters out there, some of the courageous
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people that are from social media that are telling the truth.
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And when you check them, you know, when AI checks them or Grok or GPT or whatever checks
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them or people who actually know about the issue check them, they're honest about it.
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And I think that that honesty from a political angle is what Donald J. Trump, that's why he's
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the president, because he was so brutally honest with, you know, with the audience that said,
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I don't agree on everything that he does, but he is, you know, the most, you know, I mean,
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probably one of the greatest leaders that we've had in terms of our time, the times that we
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are facing, and thank God we have him, because otherwise the alternative, speaking of alternative
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We would have something that is so egregious had we gone the other direction.
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And he's even gone down to his own social media and his own true social and been banned.
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And I think that speaks to the power of these networks as it is, because if they can ban
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a sitting president of the United States, then who's actually in charge?
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Because if they decide the president can't have access to speak anywhere, it'd be unheard
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of to say the president's speech can't be broadcast on national TV in the 60s, 70s, 80s,
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Some of these corporate networks, they cut off the president of the United States,
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and when he's in the middle of a bilateral conversation with a country that matters, right?
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I mean, and all of them do, but certainly a top five or a top 10 economy.
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Well, one of the pieces I wanted to get into is that, you know, we've been fighting over
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human events, and, you know, it's small, but it's big in the sense this case out in
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Utah with the murder of Charlie Kirk, our friend, the lawyers for the defendant, they just filed,
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and it gets to the censorship question, because they just filed a motion that cameras should
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be banned from the courtroom, that they don't want that to be shown, and I think this is
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a huge problem, and it gets to this problem of censorship and this, you know, affinity
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for censorship that we've seen an appetite for it that we didn't used to have as a country.
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The whole point of putting something out publicly, especially in a trial, right, is
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that the public can be, in an open society, the public should be a check on the process.
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The prosecutor's got evidence, the defense has an argument, they're fighting it back
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and forth, and, of course, the jury decides, guilty, not guilty, the judge, you know, hopefully
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calls balls and strikes, but the public has the ability to come in and be a check on the
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entire process, because they could, maybe they could, you know, elect a new judge if they
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don't like the judge, they could do something and fight it out in federal court, et cetera.
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So when I look at that case specifically, and you're talking about these networks, and there
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are, and you mentioned fifth generation warfare, I look at the assassination of Charlie Kirk
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as an example of fifth generation warfare in action.
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And I went on CNN, I think just a day or two after it happened, and they asked me, they said,
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And I said, we are seeing asymmetric civil warfare.
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And that's the definition of fifth generation warfare.
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I mean, first of all, Charlie Kirk was a monumental historic figure, bar none.
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I mean, he just, you know, and it's interesting because I was in a conversation last night, and
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then I, before I, you know, wrapped up the night here, I went through all of my text messages
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that I have with Charlie over the, you know, over the last couple of years, just to, just
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to, you know, to kind of, you know, as a, as a reminder of, of his personal touch that
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he had, not just, I mean, not on, just on me, but he had a personal touch on humanity.
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So it's a real, it's, you know, it's a tragedy what happened.
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I don't know the legal issues of Utah, but I think that the American people, particularly
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for this, this, you know, this assassination of Charlie Kirk, I think the American people
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deserve to see justice in action, you know, in a very transparent way.
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I mean, so we, we, we don't want to, or justice is blind.
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What we want is we want, you know, sort of an open, you know, we're not interacting.
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It's the, it's the prosecution, the defense, the judge.
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So people begin to gain a sense of trust again, because the American people do not trust the
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I mean, look at what, you know, as Trump came back into office, look at how the judiciary just
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has slow rolled him to the 10th, you know, the 10th degree.
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Nevermind, you know, the, this, this trial that's going to go on with, you know, to, to determine
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what actually did occur to get to that truth, right?
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And, and on that note, I still believe that there are a lot of questions that are out
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And, and I think that those questions that are out there, they're, they need to be resolved.
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And maybe, maybe if this is where the Department of Justice is going to have to come in really
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strong, to fight, to say, no, you know, judge, we want this trial open.
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These are influences and they're friends of mine, Jack, where's Jack, he's done a great
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I believe if I read right, and people can check me on this, that the, that Utah courts are
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So they have a rule in Utah that's actually very permissive for cameras and, uh, I don't
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And it says it's the, there is a presumption that courtroom trials will be televised or what
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they say, uh, reported on using electronic devices.
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So they have the presumption of openness and transparency written into the law, which is
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actually very open compared to some of the other states.
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I mean, unless it has to be sealed because something's classified or whatever.
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And I'm okay with that, but even then, yeah, I mean, you can, you can think of potential
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reasons, but yeah, for this particular one, cause it's Charlie Kirk and he was such a historic
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figure, uh, in, in actually in world history, you know, as I look back at different, different
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types of people, which is something that I do study, uh, Charlie's unique.
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He's very unique and he was unique, you know, for, for this country going forward.
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And, uh, so it's a very, it's a tragedy that our country lost a great leader.
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And now I think that we should be fighting the, our government, our justice system, justice
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department should be fighting tooth and nail to keep this trial public, very public.
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And let's let everybody see what the, what's being presented yet to rule.
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But we, we wrote over at human events and, uh, Libby Emmons, our editor had this great
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It's, she said, you know, Charlie didn't have a say in whether or not his murder would be
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Um, and we do have a say though, over the trial, so it should be public too.
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And, and we know it in this day and age, even, even the fact that he, that he did the murder
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on live stream, right, that it occurred, that's a form of asymmetric warfare as well, because
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they know, of course, when you see Charlie Kirk on campus, the clips are everywhere and everybody's
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So to do it on live video that way, not, you know, not when he's getting in or out of a car
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or something, it's meant as a form of an asymmetric attack, isn't it?
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It's very intentional and to, to try to strike fear.
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An act of terrorism, by definition, it is meant to strike fear in the hearts and minds
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of, of whatever it is that there, that's been attacked, you know, a society, a, a, a
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And frankly, what I have seen since Charlie's murder is I've seen young people standing strong.
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And that's encouraging to me, who's, who is a guy who, you know, kind of, you know, getting
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long in the tooth, but still fighting for this country, but still fighting for this country
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by, by seeing these young people who are sort of the, you know, the, the future Charlie
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Like, it's like, you know, it's like the apostles, right?
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They get anointed and then they go around the world to preach the gospel, right?
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And that's something that, that we, we want to encourage.
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That's why I think that this, that's another reason why this, this trial needs to be very
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You're telling me the time, but if I, if I have just time for one more question, this,
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this dust up that we've seen between, you know, and it's sort of going after these left
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wing networks, they're talking about a dust up, FBI, NCTC, people arguing over who's got
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authority to go after these networks, et cetera.
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What would you say to come in from your perspective, having been in the IC, having been a leader there?
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Is there a way to set up a, you know, a JTF or something?
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Because at the end of the day, it's about disrupting the networks and keeping people
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In fact, if you're worried about who gets credit, then we're in the, you're in the wrong business.
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You know, credit will come when others give it to you, right?
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So first of all, this latest dust up, I, the way I understood it was that there was a meeting
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in the, in the white house, in the situation room and it was leaked, it was leaked.
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So somebody, somebody said what happened in that meeting to the media.
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So everybody that was in that meeting should be given a one-time poly.
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So if I was the vice president of the United States or the president, I would say, get everybody
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back in there and, and, you know, I'll give you the question and give them a one-time
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But I do think that clearly the FBI has jurisdiction, so it's a jurisdictional issue.
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But there's too many questions out there that still remain.
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So instead of having an infighting and who's going to get credit for what, I think the bigger
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What do the American citizens believe right now that are, that are here and these people
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represent, you know, 75 million of them, right?
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So I think from the perspective of the administration and the perspective of certainly the Department
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of Justice, it ought to just be, look, we're looking at everything.
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We are looking at every single angle, not just of the trajectory of the bullet, but we're
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We are going to dig, dig, dig because Charlie Kirk deserves it, okay?
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The people that Charlie Kirk was leading, you know, as a huge movement, they deserve it.
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So if something comes, you know, if new evidence becomes available, we're not going to close
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We're not going to shut our eyes and say, open and shut case, it's a done deal.
00:25:39.520
I think if they, if they said that to the American people, I think that, that, that the American
00:25:45.140
people go, okay, that, you know, that we're going to trial.
00:25:50.240
One of the constructs that I've, you know, that I've been pitching is, let's get a joint
00:25:53.480
interagency task force and have it not just on this, but on all left wing violence, all
00:26:01.160
You know, Cash and Dan are too smart to not do something like that.
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The intel community, you know, the people that are...
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The challenge is that you're going to get different things.
00:26:17.060
I mean, we cannot deny the things that we have seen, right?
00:26:23.140
So videos and such, you can't deny this, back to the truth and discernment.
00:26:28.380
So all the, I think all that I get, I get it all the time is, just let us know that there's
00:26:35.720
And I think if that was the answer, I think the, I think everybody would, they wouldn't
00:26:40.920
shut up and go home, but they would at least temper down and say, okay, the FBI's got this.
00:26:48.680
But I do believe that there's, you know, there's other things that must be looked at.
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There has to be looked at because we have already learned this with the assassinations of
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And we've learned this with other school shootings.
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When we look at the cell phone of an individual and we see that that person did something, they're
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There's no doubt factual now that there are other connections to these shooters that are
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You've been incredibly generous with your time.
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Really excited to be sitting down with European firebrand freedom fighter,
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a fighter for her people, a fighter for her civilization,
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and a wayward former Human Events Daily co-host, Ava Vlar.
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When was the last time you were in the United States?
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Yeah, so the last time I was in the United States was the 19th of December, 2023 at AmericaFest.
00:29:27.620
My husband keeps on saying that he wants to meet him.
00:29:33.620
Your husband wants to, why does he want to meet him?
00:29:34.620
Because he's like, to him, my husband's Italian, right?
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It's like the most incredible thing, a guy like that.
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The way he's dressed, he's like, I need to understand this man.
00:29:53.620
We have to come back to AmFest and then you can meet him.
00:30:03.620
And I wanted to say though, you know, you gave me a very nice call after Charlie's murder.
00:30:09.620
And even beyond that on a personal level, you gave a speech at the Tommy Robinson rally,
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I think just three days after Charlie's assassination.
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Tell us what it felt like to be up there, how many people were there.
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And just from a personal level, thank you for doing that.
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And turning that into this sort of interesting interplay of Western civilization, Charlie,
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what he stood for, everything the movement stands for.
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I mean, you can't even really put into words what that moment was.
00:30:38.620
I mean, thank you for bringing it up because that rally, I mean, it was, of course,
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It was already set, you know, for weeks, for weeks.
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I didn't even, we were thinking maybe should I, will I go?
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Tommy Robinson organized it and it was like, it called the United Kingdom rally.
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So that's why I was thinking, you know, maybe, maybe go back and do another one, you know.
00:31:10.620
But it was, you know, of course, we were expecting people to come out, waving their flags,
00:31:17.620
And when I went there, I saw, of course, a sea of flags, but I also saw Charlie's portrait,
00:31:27.620
So it completely transformed the event in and of itself.
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Like, and personally, I mean, I told you on the phone, right, that it was, it was genuinely
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I was, for the first time, not excited to go because spirits were just so heavy.
00:31:45.620
We were sad and it just, we were only thinking about Charlie and what had happened.
00:31:51.620
And also, on a personal note, like, if I'm honest, my husband and I, you know, when we
00:31:58.620
saw the images of what happened to Charlie and in the days afterwards, we were just set,
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Like, okay, this just happened to one of our bravest warriors and now we're settled to go
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to London and stand on the stage, you know, at a protest.
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And there is no, you know, there is no way that you know who's going to be in front of
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And, of course, millions of people were set to come.
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So it was like, I was a bit afraid for the first time in my life.
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Of course, you know, you get nervous sometimes if you have to perform and you have to go in
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front of a large audience, but this was a totally different experience.
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You know, because if you then say, okay, we're not going to go, I'm not going to go,
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then the people who killed Charlie got what they wanted.
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And I'm really glad afterwards that we went because it was incredible.
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The energy that we felt there, I think what happened to Charlie amplified that by, you
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It was unlike anything that I've ever seen before.
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And you have been to tons of political rallies.
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They were like, I think the BBC was saying that there were 110,000 people there, which is
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like funny because we had helicopters flying over.
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In the beginning, like we spoke to police officers who were saying, we think that there
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I mean, it was definitely closer to that than to what the BBC said.
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There's been some, you know, undercurrents, I think, that rose to the surface in not only
00:33:52.620
Charlie's murder, but in this rally with Tommy Robinson.
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This idea that we're actually in a fight for Western civilization itself.
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And I actually brought that up when I spoke at Charlie's Memorial.
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I say, I hope, I hope and I actually believe that 100 years from now, 200 years from now,
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when they look back and they say, how was Western civilization saved?
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And one of the two or three moments that they'll point to was that the murder of Charlie Kirk
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was what saved the West because it galvanized people into what we're actually fighting for.
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It transformed everything for everyone, I think, in this fight.
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And, of course, we knew that this is a dangerous fight to fight, right?
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Of course, I called you because I wanted to know also how you were doing personally,
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But we were talking about, like, what's at stake here and how we were aware of that,
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We talked about the political assassinations of Pimfertuyn and Theo van Gogh,
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two of our most, I would say, prominent political figures 20 years ago in my country were assassinated.
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So one of them, of course, was a right wing politician.
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He was about to become the prime minister in the next elections.
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How different maybe our fate would have looked if he had, in fact, become the prime minister.
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And Theo van Gogh was a journalist who was very critical of Islam.
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So two major political assassinations more than 20 years ago.
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So going into this, I've always known, you know, that this is a real possibility.
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That we are, you know, on the right where we're arguing for freedom of speech.
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We're arguing for our national identity to preserve.
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But on the other side, there are people who want to kill us.
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And those assassinations, if I remember correctly, they were in public, right?
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You know, I forget if I ever told you this, but one of the very first political events
00:36:11.620
that I ever put together was on my college campus in 2009 when I brought Yurt Wielder's to campus.
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And he brought with him Lars Vilks, the cartoonist, right?
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And this is, you know, we're coming up almost 20 years ago.
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And that's how I knew about how horrific the situation had become in the EU.
00:36:38.620
And also the same, at the same time, I understood that, you know, this fight is very serious.
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This fight is absolutely lethal if you come out and speak the wrong thing.
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But at the same time, you can't stop just because the enemy is angry.
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You can't stop just because you made someone upset.
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In fact, that shows you that what you're doing is potentially, it's working, it's gaining traction.
00:37:08.620
In fact, it's actually a signal you should do more.
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Yeah, they wouldn't want to kill us if they weren't afraid of us.
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So clearly there is power within our voices and there's power within what we do.
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And it's, I mean, it would be the coward's way out, right, if we were to stop.
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We have to continue doing what is right because we both know that this is not just about politics.
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We are fighting for God and this is not the only life that we will live.
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So knowing that, you really don't have another option, I think, than to continue and keep on trying to make change for the better.
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And in Europe, I mean, like I said, this is more than 20 years ago that these two major assassinations happened in just my small little country, right?
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But it says a lot about the political atmosphere there and it hasn't gotten better necessarily.
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I mean, the right wing, of course, is gaining ground.
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And he's been my friend right from the beginning of this whole beautiful event.
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And we're going to turn it around and make our country great to get to you.
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Ava, of course, has abandoned human events daily for the last couple of years.
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Somebody was running around saying, be a rebel, start a family.
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But what's amazing is, so we've been talking about some of the, obviously, the horrific
00:38:57.620
things that happened to Charlie, the horrific things that happened to great patriots in your
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But there is something amazing that's happened.
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And that's been, in the wake of Charlie's murder, in the wake of his assassination, we've
00:39:09.620
seen this just global movement, I would say, of people who are now waking up to the real
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truth of leftist political violence that's going on, and Islamist political violence,
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But at the same, and you look at the people talking about the grooming gangs in London,
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which has, of course, been Tommy's story from day one.
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And the fact that that is now a mainstream story, a mainstream scandal.
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Keir Starmer, of course, is pushing these crazy Netflix videos to try to, oh, it's
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And there is now a youth movement that's, to my mind, as an outsider, it seems like it's
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all across Europe fighting for remigration, fighting for truth, for the, just the historic
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native lands of the European people, which is something that if you said publicly 10 years
00:40:04.620
ago, I mean, you would be censored, you'd be banned, you'd be silenced, you'd be ostracized
00:40:13.620
I mean, the things that builders, for example, was vilified for, for so many years was in,
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As we always say, he was completely ostracized.
00:40:25.620
Those things are like nothing compared to the stuff that we now say on the right.
00:40:35.620
Like, you know, we're not just talking anymore about like, oh, maybe there are some cultural
00:40:39.620
differences between people who come from, you know, an Islamic background and Christians.
00:40:43.620
We are saying, no, look, we're about to become minorities in our own countries.
00:40:50.620
We see New York City right now where next week we are going to have a foreign born Muslim
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will become, and I think more than likely will become the mayor of America's greatest
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I think that's, it's really, it's a good sign, right?
00:41:05.620
That we have all these young people, especially also what happened to Charlie.
00:41:09.620
I think it was the ultimate sign once again, that it doesn't matter how reasonable you
00:41:14.620
are because Charlie was an extremely reasonable young man, right?
00:41:20.620
I think that I could count myself more on your side of the, of the game in that sense,
00:41:27.620
So I think that that's what people so realize now that you might as well just say what you
00:41:37.620
We in Europe are having actual conversations now, which is absolutely necessary about how
00:41:42.620
civic nationalism just doesn't work, not at this rate, you know, like we cannot talk about
00:41:47.620
assimilation and integration of millions and millions of foreign young men.
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Once white people in their own homelands become minorities,
00:41:59.620
Because that means that those countries are not going to be the countries that they always
00:42:03.620
I'll give you a great example that we're seeing in New York right now, because when
00:42:07.620
you look at this race, so there's, there's two Democrats that are in the lead.
00:42:13.620
But we look at the two Democrats, the native born New Yorkers are going for Cuomo, who was,
00:42:19.620
is the, some of the former governor and he was a former governor himself.
00:42:22.620
The foreign born New Yorkers are almost 100% in lockstep for the immigrant candidate.
00:42:30.620
This, and this guy is as far left as they come.
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And by the way, people say, oh, no, it's just about economics and housing.
00:42:42.620
He said that, he said that the NYPD is the tool of the IDF.
00:42:46.620
He says that he is going to confiscate the wealth specifically from white people and hand
00:42:53.620
He had a line in 2020, he said, the black and brown alliance will defeat white supremacy.
00:43:01.620
And yes, he's charming and he puts on these affectations like, oh, he's just a nice, normal, regular guy.
00:43:06.620
But you can just go roll back the clock to, oh, I don't know, about six months ago and he's been using all of this rhetoric.
00:43:12.620
This is, and I keep saying, it's Radio Rwanda for white people.
00:43:16.620
And that's exactly what's going to happen in New York City when he becomes mayor.
00:43:20.620
And you, and I think it's because you guys in Europe have seen all of these issues across so many cities, obviously London and national level.
00:43:30.620
We're not just talking about the big cities anymore.
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And that's, I think what people of New York need to understand.
00:43:35.620
Like it's going to come to the countryside too.
00:43:37.620
If you look at what is happening in Europe, all of the assaults that we're talking about, right?
00:43:42.620
The rapes, the murders, they used to happen in the big cities alone.
00:43:46.620
Let's say 20 years ago, we already saw that connection between crime and immigration.
00:43:59.620
So the message that the people are pushing this agenda want to give you is that you can't hide.
00:44:03.620
Like that little, you know, quaint Dutch town with the mills in the back.
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And so of course you need to stop it now in New York.
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Before it spreads out and you're not safe anywhere anymore.
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We are no longer in the position to say, okay, we need to close the borders and that's fine.
00:44:29.620
Like with our demographics in Northwestern Europe, every single country is heading for becoming a minority in their own.
00:44:38.620
Like for the native population to become a minority in their own country by the end of this century.
00:44:43.620
And oftentimes even before the first half of this century ends.
00:44:49.620
And you look at the school classes, these photos of, you know, here's, here's what this school class looks like.
00:44:54.620
Kindergarten, first grade, second grade, third grade.
00:44:56.620
And suddenly you're, you're saying, wait a minute.
00:44:58.620
You know, if I'm in, you know, if I'm looking at, look at the Netherlands, I say, where are the Dutch kids?
00:45:02.620
If I'm looking at England, I say, where are the British kids?
00:45:07.620
And why wouldn't we be allowed to say that we want that?
00:45:10.620
Why wouldn't we as Dutch people, as the Dutch native people say, be able to say, we want the Netherlands to stay Dutch?
00:45:17.620
Why wouldn't we be able to say, we want Germany to say German?
00:45:26.620
You never hear these issues with the Asian countries.
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No one ever says, which has incredibly low immigration.
00:45:34.620
China, of course, has been having their economic boom without needing migrants.
00:45:39.620
Funny how that works, that they're able to do so.
00:45:43.620
This is specifically an agenda targeting white people.
00:45:55.620
Because, yes, it's true that we are now having these discussions.
00:46:03.620
But institutionally, we're not gaining much ground.
00:46:06.620
Like, when we're talking about the regulations.
00:46:13.620
And we're running out of time really, really quickly.
00:46:15.620
So I don't know if the young generation that is maybe has woken up to this fact.
00:46:21.620
Is going to grow up fast enough to get into those positions of power to make change.
00:46:28.620
Look, I would say you just have to fight hard and hold the line wherever it is.
00:46:33.620
And you look, by the way, it's that the youth movement in some countries has been very successful.
00:46:39.620
You even look at the youth movement in Poland, for example.
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Poland, a country which, funny enough, doesn't have these problems.
00:46:50.620
I was there several times this year for the election.
00:46:55.620
All of these issues came up during the election.
00:46:58.620
And it's perfectly safe when you walk around Warsaw any time of night.
00:47:02.620
Tanyte and I got six million videos for just a video of us walking around on, like, a Saturday night at midnight.
00:47:17.620
It started with youth marches, just like what Tommy did in London.
00:47:20.620
And they were able to leverage that into actually getting into political power.
00:47:25.620
And from there, now they have influence on the institutions.
00:47:28.620
Because even if, and in multi-party democracy, even if they can't form a government, what they can do is be kingmakers.
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And I look at everything that you're doing and so many of the other freedom fighters.
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Eva Vlar, thank you so much for rejoining your former podcast, Human Events Daily.