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00:00:30.000 This is what happens when the fourth turning meets fifth generation warfare.

00:00:39.620 A commentator, international social media sensation, and former Navy intelligence veteran.

00:00:46.260 This is Human Events with your host, Jack Poso.

00:00:49.220 Christ is king.

00:00:51.220 Ladies and gentlemen, welcome aboard.

00:00:52.420 Today we have a very special edition of Human Events daily for you.

00:00:55.900 We're here live in Washington, D.C.

00:00:57.960 Today is October 30th, 2025.

00:01:00.600 It is mischief night, as we used to call it in Philly.

00:01:04.460 And look, we are here at General Flynn's new media summit.

00:01:09.260 Today is all about independent media.

00:01:11.580 It's all about disrupting the narrative.

00:01:14.060 It's about getting the truth out.

00:01:15.820 And we're so glad that Real America's Voice, Human Events Daily, are able to be here and

00:01:21.100 to be a part of this great summit.

00:01:23.760 Because we're meeting with people from all across the spectrum, and in fact, all across

00:01:27.980 the world.

00:01:29.040 Even some folks who are joining us from Ukraine that are here, that have been on the front

00:01:34.120 lines.

00:01:34.480 They're going to tell us the truth and give us ground truth, including video, people who

00:01:38.020 go to the front lines, people that go into even occupied areas, to tell us what's actually

00:01:42.440 going on behind those lines in ways that the mainstream media just will not do.

00:01:48.920 This is the force multiplier.

00:01:51.880 This is how you can be a truth aggregator.

00:01:54.900 How you can actually get the facts, spread it out through using social media, using independent

00:02:00.300 networks like Real America's Voice over the top, and then going and telling that story.

00:02:05.140 So we're going to be here holding this summit, this meeting of the minds.

00:02:07.760 James O'Keefe is here, Laura Logan is here, Ava Vlar is here.

00:02:12.100 We've got an incredible, incredible lineup for you.

00:02:15.080 So we're going to be having, we're going to be showing that on Real America's Voice all

00:02:19.180 throughout the day.

00:02:19.740 But then also, we are going to be doing a sit down right now with General Flynn himself,

00:02:25.680 my former director.

00:02:26.760 When I was a DIA intelligence analyst, a very, very young E-5 petty officer, IS-2 Posovic,

00:02:34.880 when I went on my deployment to Guantanamo Bay, and he was three-star general director

00:02:38.620 of the Defense Intelligence Agency.

00:02:40.380 Because this is what it's all about, the interplay between information and truth and policy.

00:02:46.100 We've seen over the last 10 years the lies from the mainstream media, the lies from the

00:02:50.960 intelligence community, and we're fighting them every single day.

00:02:54.300 Yesterday, the revelations that came out about the FBI's Operation Arctic Frost, the targeting

00:02:58.520 of TPUSA, the targeting even of MyPillow, and their banks, and Mike Lindell.

00:03:04.960 This is the situation that we've been through.

00:03:07.720 We were living through a version of the American Stasi.

00:03:10.940 General Flynn came out, blew the whistle on it, and he paid a price for that.

00:03:16.500 And he suffered for that, and he was attacked for that, and he was raked over the coals for

00:03:19.760 that, but we're so glad that he's here to sit down with us today at Human Events Daily to

00:03:25.880 be able to understand this, to sit down.

00:03:28.180 Really excited to be here with General Flynn for yet another summit in Washington, D.C.

00:03:32.800 General, thank you for having us.

00:03:33.900 Yeah, absolutely, Jack.

00:03:34.540 And thanks for the sit-down.

00:03:35.360 So tell us about what is the purpose and the goal of today's summit?

00:03:38.480 Yeah, so a couple of years ago, I had a great conversation with a group of some of these

00:03:43.380 podcasters who were just emerging, you know, on the scene of what we have seen, and I'd

00:03:48.440 call it the podcast presidency because guys like you and others that have giant followings

00:03:55.740 and you're leading a message of essentially we've got to save America, right?

00:04:00.600 I mean, I think the big picture, Jack, is everybody sees the threat that we are facing here internally

00:04:06.500 to our country, and one of the big topics that we're going to talk about today is censorship

00:04:09.920 and how do we work together.

00:04:12.620 So this is a means that's been going on for a couple of years.

00:04:16.000 I now have an opportunity with the Gold Institute to organize this effort.

00:04:21.080 We have over 200 essentially people that operate in the world of social media and podcasting,

00:04:28.900 alternative media, independent media.

00:04:31.040 We have over north of 75 million viewers for today's audience, and you know, when you start

00:04:39.540 talking about impressions, we have tens of billions of impressions from some of the types

00:04:43.980 of people that are going to be in here.

00:04:46.480 This is just a sort of an open forum, an initial step, initial stage to start organizing the independent

00:04:54.760 media forces that we have.

00:04:56.720 As a military guy, I'm just trying to say, okay, to move forward as a nation, how do we

00:05:00.720 task organizing?

00:05:01.720 And frankly, one of the things that you'll hear me talk about today, Jack, is that, you

00:05:06.220 know, President Trump is really in this, he's really taken on the institutions of government,

00:05:11.960 certainly in the United States, not just overseas, but the institutions of government, and he's,

00:05:16.580 you know, kind of slashing them.

00:05:18.440 You know, I mean, to metaphorically say he's slashing and burning these institutions of government,

00:05:23.720 I think the rise of what we now know as fake news, right, people can define that however

00:05:31.160 they want, but there's clearly, there is a lot of untruth, misinformation, a lot of things

00:05:38.400 out there, and what you have in this room behind me is a bunch of courageous entrepreneurs

00:05:45.000 who have said, look, you know, we want a voice, and we're going to have a voice.

00:05:50.160 And one thing that I, and I'll get off my dime here, there are people in here that have

00:05:54.560 audiences of 75,000, and there's people in here with audiences of 5 million.

00:05:59.820 The people that have 75,000, those are deeply loyal audiences because they've stuck with

00:06:04.840 that person.

00:06:05.980 Some of it's regionally, but we certainly have, you know, global representation in here with

00:06:11.520 people from Europe primarily, and Eastern Europe as well.

00:06:14.760 We have a Ukrainian woman, I won't mention her name now because I'd screw it up, but

00:06:20.660 I'll introduce her here in a bit.

00:06:22.780 She's got an audience of 3 or 4 million from Ukraine, and she's got an interesting view

00:06:27.240 of the world.

00:06:28.240 So part of this is not just to talk about the current situation, it's to talk about how

00:06:32.160 do we organize better?

00:06:33.920 Because thank God that we have Elon Musk, and he opened up X, opened up, you know, bought Twitter

00:06:40.340 and turned it into X, and we have this great platform, which is great.

00:06:44.000 But if that changes, and you just don't know, where else do you go?

00:06:48.640 What are the battlefields of the future that we are going to have to operate on?

00:06:52.580 And, you know, and as you know, you've helped me, you know, promote it, you know, Boone Cutler,

00:06:57.240 you know, God rest his soul.

00:06:59.080 He and I wrote the book on fifth generation warfare.

00:07:01.240 And that's kind of where we're at.

00:07:02.240 That's where we're at.

00:07:03.240 We're going to talk a little bit about that today.

00:07:05.240 I think we should.

00:07:06.240 And even before we get into that, I was going to say, though, just picking up what you're

00:07:10.240 saying, that we've seen so much how in this town, and obviously you, in your past position

00:07:14.840 as the director at the EIA, you've seen how the flow of information, and by the way, not

00:07:20.000 just classified information, but the flow of public open source information.

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00:08:57.220 Whether it's, so if you're getting your news, you're getting your worldview, your mindset

00:09:01.520 from CNN, from MSNBC, from the Washington Post, I've always seen this dichotomy where people

00:09:08.100 will get that mindset and then they bring it into the skiff, right, so that everything

00:09:12.120 that they're looking at is colored already by what they just watched on TV.

00:09:16.060 So the question is, how do you drive good policy if you're starting from a bad mindset?

00:09:22.200 And that's where I think independent media and the independent drivers of these narratives,

00:09:26.580 you mentioned Ukraine, you know, the battlefield right there, who's winning, right?

00:09:29.960 It kind of depends on who you're listening to, what's really going on on the ground.

00:09:33.460 It depends on who you're following.

00:09:34.860 You're following this guy, you're following that guy.

00:09:36.240 And as usual, the truth is probably somewhere in the middle.

00:09:39.940 But I think that's one of the key differences in what we've seen driving President Trump's

00:09:45.440 rise and really the rise of alternative media is that it's not just having a difference of

00:09:50.060 opinion.

00:09:50.500 We're having a difference of fact at this point.

00:09:52.180 Right, exactly, exactly.

00:09:54.080 And I think the word that I would capture with everything you just said is discernment.

00:10:00.060 So discernment has to do with, and I'll just use my definition of what I believe it is,

00:10:07.120 discernment has to do with looking at an issue, looking at information, taking a deep breath,

00:10:13.760 stepping back, and not just emotionally rolling with whatever the initial judgment is, okay?

00:10:20.460 Because I just used the word judgment, which is different than discernment.

00:10:23.240 So discernment, what I, and I'll talk about this here with this crowd, you know, let's

00:10:28.280 not let emotions drive us.

00:10:30.500 It has driven me at times.

00:10:32.360 And let's take a step back, look at the information that's being presented, make some judgments about

00:10:38.240 the information and about the facts.

00:10:40.760 Do some research.

00:10:41.560 Because if you want to continue in this world where people really do believe you because

00:10:47.000 you're an honest guy and you come across very honestly, then you have to drive for the

00:10:52.240 truth, right?

00:10:53.360 Because the one thing about the truth, and I always, I learned this in the, you know, as

00:10:56.480 a young officer, there's three sides of the truth.

00:10:58.460 There's your side, there's my side, and then there's the truth.

00:11:01.060 So what we want to try to do is drive ourselves closer to what the actual truth is.

00:11:05.820 And do you ever find it?

00:11:06.960 I don't know, but you can get, you can get really close to it, especially, you know, in other

00:11:11.220 words that you just use is facts, right?

00:11:14.200 And it's like, well, if I see a red car, it's a red car, right?

00:11:19.380 But you go, nope, it's blue, and it's moving.

00:11:22.240 And it's like, no, it's a red car and it's parked, and it's actually a red car and it's

00:11:24.980 parked.

00:11:25.560 I can't, I'm not sure I can convince that person that says it's a blue car and it's

00:11:29.620 moving.

00:11:29.980 I just don't know if I can convince them.

00:11:31.440 So I don't want to waste a lot of time with that person.

00:11:34.040 And if there's people that are listening to them, you know, they're injured.

00:11:37.920 I think that they're intellectually injured by that kind of discernment, if, you know,

00:11:44.040 if that makes sense.

00:11:44.780 And to me, that's part of what we have here.

00:11:48.460 And we have people here that are on both sides of not necessarily the political aisle, we'll

00:11:53.560 see, but we definitely have people on different issues that are on different sides for some

00:11:57.960 of these, you know, international issues.

00:11:59.960 We're not here today to talk about the current events of the day.

00:12:03.660 We're here to talk about understanding the future of alternative media, because as we've

00:12:09.620 seen, and we're going to show a couple of charts here, we've seen the decline of corporate

00:12:14.440 media, the decline of advertising, for sure, and the rise of advertising and the rise of

00:12:19.500 alternative media, because people know, well, that's where people are going, right?

00:12:23.940 And we see, you know, Barack Obama recently, I think in the last couple of days, he's been

00:12:29.020 out there, and I think a month or so ago, he was out in Stanford, if I'm not mistaken,

00:12:33.580 where he was talking about, he's talking about we have to relook how, you know, the information

00:12:38.640 domain operates.

00:12:40.040 It's like, what is that?

00:12:40.700 What are you talking about here?

00:12:41.800 So we do have people from Congress, a couple of people from Congress later in the afternoon,

00:12:46.980 they're going to come in and talk about legislation, legislation here in the United States of

00:12:50.980 America to basically protect us against censorship.

00:12:53.920 And we also have somebody who's going to talk about some of the European Union type

00:12:59.220 legislation that is occurring there, too, because there's censorship going on all over

00:13:03.560 the world.

00:13:04.220 And we've got to fight that.

00:13:05.400 We've got to fight that, right?

00:13:06.520 I mean, I have my views on what I like to see or what I believe should be on a social media

00:13:13.180 platform.

00:13:14.040 I mean, I have a nonprofit that fights child trafficking, as an example, right?

00:13:18.060 So I don't, you know, anybody that gets involved in that.

00:13:20.240 So this is where people are going to have to judge what is actually displayed on social

00:13:25.940 media, on the alternative media.

00:13:28.480 And, you know, and that's part of the discussion.

00:13:30.720 I don't know what the final result will be here today other than that.

00:13:33.180 We will learn some lessons.

00:13:34.660 We'll bring that, we'll bring those lessons together.

00:13:36.860 And I'll mention it here on your show.

00:13:40.500 We are, everybody here, and to include yourself, will get a save the date for an alternative media

00:13:47.000 gala where I want to recognize the excellence that we have in alternative media.

00:13:52.240 I want to recognize some of the new networks.

00:13:54.500 I want to recognize some of the courageous podcasters out there, some of the courageous

00:13:58.420 people that are from social media that are telling the truth.

00:14:04.240 And when you check them, you know, when AI checks them or Grok or GPT or whatever checks

00:14:10.420 them or people who actually know about the issue check them, they're honest about it.

00:14:15.180 They're very honest about it.

00:14:16.260 And I think that that honesty from a political angle is what Donald J. Trump, that's why he's

00:14:23.120 the president, because he was so brutally honest with, you know, with the audience that said,

00:14:28.060 yeah, that's what we want.

00:14:29.860 You know, and I'm a big fan of Trump.

00:14:32.320 I don't agree on everything that he does, but he is, you know, the most, you know, I mean,

00:14:39.440 probably one of the greatest leaders that we've had in terms of our time, the times that we

00:14:45.040 are facing, and thank God we have him, because otherwise the alternative, speaking of alternative

00:14:49.260 media, we wouldn't have alternative media.

00:14:51.480 We would have something that is so egregious had we gone the other direction.

00:14:56.860 And he's even gone down to his own social media and his own true social and been banned.

00:15:01.800 And I think that speaks to the power of these networks as it is, because if they can ban

00:15:06.480 a sitting president of the United States, then who's actually in charge?

00:15:10.740 Because if they decide the president can't have access to speak anywhere, it'd be unheard

00:15:15.060 of to say the president's speech can't be broadcast on national TV in the 60s, 70s, 80s,

00:15:20.540 but suddenly he can't be on social media.

00:15:22.300 And it's totally unheard of.

00:15:23.700 And then they cut him off.

00:15:24.720 That's right.

00:15:25.000 Some of these corporate networks, they cut off the president of the United States,

00:15:27.080 and when he's in the middle of a bilateral conversation with a country that matters, right?

00:15:32.480 I mean, and all of them do, but certainly a top five or a top 10 economy.

00:15:37.180 Right.

00:15:37.860 Well, one of the pieces I wanted to get into is that, you know, we've been fighting over

00:15:42.560 human events, and, you know, it's small, but it's big in the sense this case out in

00:15:48.840 Utah with the murder of Charlie Kirk, our friend, the lawyers for the defendant, they just filed,

00:15:54.920 and it gets to the censorship question, because they just filed a motion that cameras should

00:15:59.400 be banned from the courtroom, that they don't want that to be shown, and I think this is

00:16:05.600 a huge problem, and it gets to this problem of censorship and this, you know, affinity

00:16:11.120 for censorship that we've seen an appetite for it that we didn't used to have as a country.

00:16:16.140 The whole point of putting something out publicly, especially in a trial, right, is

00:16:20.540 that the public can be, in an open society, the public should be a check on the process.

00:16:24.840 So you've got a piece of evidence.

00:16:26.680 The prosecutor's got evidence, the defense has an argument, they're fighting it back

00:16:29.640 and forth, and, of course, the jury decides, guilty, not guilty, the judge, you know, hopefully

00:16:34.980 calls balls and strikes, but the public has the ability to come in and be a check on the

00:16:40.080 entire process, because they could, maybe they could, you know, elect a new judge if they

00:16:44.440 don't like the judge, they could do something and fight it out in federal court, et cetera.

00:16:48.020 So when I look at that case specifically, and you're talking about these networks, and there

00:16:53.560 are, and you mentioned fifth generation warfare, I look at the assassination of Charlie Kirk

00:16:58.660 as an example of fifth generation warfare in action.

00:17:02.360 And I went on CNN, I think just a day or two after it happened, and they asked me, they said,

00:17:08.380 are we in a civil war?

00:17:09.240 And I said, we are seeing asymmetric civil warfare.

00:17:12.100 And that's the definition of fifth generation warfare.

00:17:14.180 I mean, first of all, Charlie Kirk was a monumental historic figure, bar none.

00:17:19.380 I mean, he just, you know, and it's interesting because I was in a conversation last night, and

00:17:24.140 then I, before I, you know, wrapped up the night here, I went through all of my text messages

00:17:31.460 that I have with Charlie over the, you know, over the last couple of years, just to, just

00:17:36.160 to, you know, to kind of, you know, as a, as a reminder of, of his personal touch that

00:17:44.360 he had, not just, I mean, not on, just on me, but he had a personal touch on humanity.

00:17:48.620 So it's a real, it's, you know, it's a tragedy what happened.

00:17:52.700 I don't know the legal issues of Utah, but I think that the American people, particularly

00:18:00.440 for this, this, you know, this assassination of Charlie Kirk, I think the American people

00:18:07.200 deserve to see justice in action, you know, in a very transparent way.

00:18:12.900 It's supposed to be blind or not blind, right?

00:18:15.140 I mean, so we, we, we don't want to, or justice is blind.

00:18:18.840 What we want is we want, you know, sort of an open, you know, we're not interacting.

00:18:24.640 It's the, it's the prosecution, the defense, the judge.

00:18:27.780 It's still that system.

00:18:28.960 So people begin to gain a sense of trust again, because the American people do not trust the

00:18:34.760 justice system.

00:18:35.880 They don't.

00:18:37.180 And, and for very, very, oh, believe me.

00:18:40.340 So, so they don't trust it.

00:18:42.060 I mean, look at what, you know, as Trump came back into office, look at how the judiciary just

00:18:47.620 has slow rolled him to the 10th, you know, the 10th degree.

00:18:50.520 And, and he's still gotten going through that.

00:18:52.140 Nevermind, you know, the, this, this trial that's going to go on with, you know, to, to determine

00:18:57.280 what actually did occur to get to that truth, right?

00:19:00.900 Your, your truth, my truth.

00:19:02.640 And then what is the truth?

00:19:04.120 And that's what we want.

00:19:05.620 And, and on that note, I still believe that there are a lot of questions that are out

00:19:11.900 there.

00:19:12.620 And, and I think that those questions that are out there, they're, they need to be resolved.

00:19:17.080 And maybe, maybe if this is where the Department of Justice is going to have to come in really

00:19:20.720 strong, to fight, to say, no, you know, judge, we want this trial open.

00:19:26.820 You talk about influences.

00:19:28.280 These are influences and they're friends of mine, Jack, where's Jack, he's done a great

00:19:37.060 job.

00:19:38.460 I believe if I read right, and people can check me on this, that the, that Utah courts are

00:19:44.920 allowed, they allow to have cameras inside.

00:19:47.000 So they have a rule in Utah that's actually very permissive for cameras and, uh, I don't

00:19:52.280 know the exact citation.

00:19:53.700 It's like 4104 Utah rule.

00:19:55.820 And it says it's the, there is a presumption that courtroom trials will be televised or what

00:20:01.980 they say, uh, reported on using electronic devices.

00:20:04.600 So they have the presumption of openness and transparency written into the law, which is

00:20:09.240 actually very open compared to some of the other states.

00:20:11.480 I agree.

00:20:11.920 I think it's great.

00:20:12.740 I mean, unless it has to be sealed because something's classified or whatever.

00:20:15.620 And I'm okay with that, but even then, yeah, I mean, you can, you can think of potential

00:20:20.500 reasons, but yeah, for this particular one, cause it's Charlie Kirk and he was such a historic

00:20:27.320 figure, uh, in, in actually in world history, you know, as I look back at different, different

00:20:33.040 types of people, which is something that I do study, uh, Charlie's unique.

00:20:37.060 He's very unique and he was unique, you know, for, for this country going forward.

00:20:43.400 And, uh, so it's a very, it's a tragedy that our country lost a great leader.

00:20:48.160 And now I think that we should be fighting the, our government, our justice system, justice

00:20:53.340 department should be fighting tooth and nail to keep this trial public, very public.

00:20:58.180 And let's let everybody see what the, what's being presented yet to rule.

00:21:01.400 So we'll, we'll see what happens.

00:21:02.700 But we, we wrote over at human events and, uh, Libby Emmons, our editor had this great

00:21:07.060 line that I just have to keep repeating.

00:21:09.000 It's, she said, you know, Charlie didn't have a say in whether or not his murder would be

00:21:15.340 public.

00:21:15.740 Right.

00:21:16.280 That was on live stream.

00:21:17.560 Um, and we do have a say though, over the trial, so it should be public too.

00:21:21.900 Yeah, I agree.

00:21:22.500 And, and we know it in this day and age, even, even the fact that he, that he did the murder

00:21:27.200 on live stream, right, that it occurred, that's a form of asymmetric warfare as well, because

00:21:32.540 they know, of course, when you see Charlie Kirk on campus, the clips are everywhere and everybody's

00:21:37.280 watching when he goes and does these debates.

00:21:39.580 So to do it on live video that way, not, you know, not when he's getting in or out of a car

00:21:44.880 or something, it's meant as a form of an asymmetric attack, isn't it?

00:21:48.640 On everyone who's watching.

00:21:49.640 Absolutely.

00:21:50.640 It's, it's intentional.

00:21:52.460 It's very intentional and to, to try to strike fear.

00:21:56.400 I mean, that's what an act of terror is.

00:21:58.600 An act of terrorism, by definition, it is meant to strike fear in the hearts and minds

00:22:04.840 of, of whatever it is that there, that's been attacked, you know, a society, a, a, a

00:22:10.280 religion, whatever.

00:22:12.000 And that's the whole purpose of it.

00:22:13.220 So that's, it's to strike fear.

00:22:15.280 And frankly, what I have seen since Charlie's murder is I've seen young people standing strong.

00:22:23.820 And that's encouraging to me, who's, who is a guy who, you know, kind of, you know, getting

00:22:29.380 long in the tooth, but still fighting for this country, but still fighting for this country

00:22:34.480 by, by seeing these young people who are sort of the, you know, the, the future Charlie

00:22:40.360 Kirks in different places. 0.99

00:22:42.380 Like, it's like, you know, it's like the apostles, right?

00:22:45.080 They get anointed and then they go around the world to preach the gospel, right?

00:22:48.380 So that to me is very, very encouraging.

00:22:52.600 And that's, that's a legacy.

00:22:54.860 And that's something that, that we, we want to encourage.

00:22:58.340 That's why I think that this, that's another reason why this, this trial needs to be very

00:23:02.100 transparent.

00:23:03.100 You're telling me the time, but if I, if I have just time for one more question, this,

00:23:06.740 this dust up that we've seen between, you know, and it's sort of going after these left

00:23:10.860 wing networks, they're talking about a dust up, FBI, NCTC, people arguing over who's got

00:23:17.060 authority to go after these networks, et cetera.

00:23:20.720 What would you say to come in from your perspective, having been in the IC, having been a leader there?

00:23:27.040 Is there a way to get over these turf battles?

00:23:29.080 Is there a way to set up a, you know, a JTF or something?

00:23:32.100 Because at the end of the day, it's about disrupting the networks and keeping people

00:23:34.880 safe.

00:23:35.880 Not about who gets credit.

00:23:36.880 Yeah.

00:23:37.880 In fact, if you're worried about who gets credit, then we're in the, you're in the wrong business.

00:23:40.880 You know, credit will come when others give it to you, right?

00:23:45.720 So first of all, this latest dust up, I, the way I understood it was that there was a meeting

00:23:52.600 in the, in the white house, in the situation room and it was leaked, it was leaked.

00:23:58.820 So there's a, so there's a crime right there.

00:24:00.820 So somebody, somebody said what happened in that meeting to the media.

00:24:04.340 So everybody that was in that meeting should be given a one-time poly.

00:24:08.100 So that's what I would do.

00:24:09.820 So if I was the vice president of the United States or the president, I would say, get everybody

00:24:12.660 back in there and, and, you know, I'll give you the question and give them a one-time

00:24:16.300 poly to see who leaked that information to.

00:24:18.800 I think it was to the Washington Post, right?

00:24:20.600 I think that was the first.

00:24:21.600 The Times.

00:24:22.600 It was one of the first ones that I had seen.

00:24:24.920 Number one.

00:24:25.920 So that's, that's okay.

00:24:27.120 Get that off the table. 0.94

00:24:28.380 But I do think that clearly the FBI has jurisdiction, so it's a jurisdictional issue.

00:24:34.640 But there's too many questions out there that still remain.

00:24:37.340 So instead of having an infighting and who's going to get credit for what, I think the bigger

00:24:43.400 question is, you know, what do we believe?

00:24:46.940 So I look at myself as an American citizen.

00:24:48.740 What do the American citizens believe right now that are, that are here and these people

00:24:51.940 represent, you know, 75 million of them, right?

00:24:55.060 So what do they believe?

00:24:56.660 They believe that there's more to it.

00:24:58.700 So I think from the perspective of the administration and the perspective of certainly the Department

00:25:02.640 of Justice, it ought to just be, look, we're looking at everything.

00:25:06.640 We are looking at every single angle, not just of the trajectory of the bullet, but we're

00:25:11.840 looking at every angle of this investigation.

00:25:13.880 We are going to dig, dig, dig because Charlie Kirk deserves it, okay?

00:25:18.920 His legacy deserves it.

00:25:20.020 The American people deserve it.

00:25:21.200 The people that Charlie Kirk was leading, you know, as a huge movement, they deserve it.

00:25:27.440 So if something comes, you know, if new evidence becomes available, we're not going to close

00:25:33.300 this thing.

00:25:34.300 We're not going to shut our eyes and say, open and shut case, it's a done deal.

00:25:39.520 I think if they, if they said that to the American people, I think that, that, that the American

00:25:45.140 people go, okay, that, you know, that we're going to trial.

00:25:48.240 We'll see what happens.

00:25:49.240 We're going to...

00:25:50.240 One of the constructs that I've, you know, that I've been pitching is, let's get a joint

00:25:53.480 interagency task force and have it not just on this, but on all left wing violence, all

00:25:57.840 networks.

00:25:58.840 They probably have something like that.

00:26:00.160 I hope so.

00:26:01.160 You know, Cash and Dan are too smart to not do something like that.

00:26:07.120 The intel community, you know, the people that are...

00:26:10.960 My guess is they probably have that.

00:26:13.440 The challenge is that you're going to get different things.

00:26:17.060 I mean, we cannot deny the things that we have seen, right?

00:26:23.140 So videos and such, you can't deny this, back to the truth and discernment.

00:26:28.380 So all the, I think all that I get, I get it all the time is, just let us know that there's

00:26:33.320 an open investigation.

00:26:34.440 We're looking at everything.

00:26:35.720 And I think if that was the answer, I think the, I think everybody would, they wouldn't

00:26:40.920 shut up and go home, but they would at least temper down and say, okay, the FBI's got this.

00:26:45.700 And I believe that they do. 0.89

00:26:48.680 But I do believe that there's, you know, there's other things that must be looked at.

00:26:52.820 There has to be looked at because we have already learned this with the assassinations of

00:26:57.620 many people going back to the sixties, right?

00:27:00.380 And we've learned this with other school shootings.

00:27:03.120 When we look at the cell phone of an individual and we see that that person did something, they're

00:27:08.060 in touch with everything.

00:27:10.620 There's no doubt factual now that there are other connections to these shooters that are

00:27:16.600 out there.

00:27:17.600 Your staff has given me the look here.

00:27:20.620 You've been incredibly generous with your time.

00:27:22.620 Thank you so much.

00:27:23.620 And thank you for having me today.

00:27:24.620 This is Jack.

00:27:25.620 Where's Jack?

00:27:26.620 Where is he?

00:27:27.620 It's Jack.

00:27:28.620 I want to see you.

00:27:29.620 Great job, Jack.

00:27:30.620 Thank you.

00:27:31.620 What a job you do.

00:27:32.620 You know, we have an incredible thing.

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00:28:50.620 Really excited to be sitting down with European firebrand freedom fighter,

00:28:55.620 a fighter for her people, a fighter for her civilization,

00:28:58.620 and a wayward former Human Events Daily co-host, Ava Vlar.

00:29:01.620 What's up, Ava?

00:29:02.620 Hi, Jack. It's great to see you.

00:29:04.620 Now, do I have this correct?

00:29:06.620 When was the last time you were in the United States?

00:29:08.620 Yeah, so the last time I was in the United States was the 19th of December, 2023 at AmericaFest.

00:29:16.620 And what were you doing at AmericaFest?

00:29:17.620 Hosting with you.

00:29:18.620 Hosting Human Events Daily.

00:29:20.620 Wow, look at this.

00:29:21.620 Yeah.

00:29:22.620 I remember we had the American Shaman on.

00:29:25.620 You remember that?

00:29:26.620 Oh, my God.

00:29:27.620 My husband keeps on saying that he wants to meet him.

00:29:28.620 I'm happy you bring that up.

00:29:30.620 Are you serious?

00:29:31.620 Yeah, he's like, I need to meet that man.

00:29:33.620 Your husband wants to, why does he want to meet him?

00:29:34.620 Because he's like, to him, my husband's Italian, right?

00:29:37.620 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:29:38.620 It's like the most incredible thing, a guy like that.

00:29:41.620 The way he's dressed, he's like, I need to understand this man.

00:29:43.620 I need to understand this psyche.

00:29:44.620 I need to understand American politics.

00:29:46.620 Producer Foz is really good friends with him.

00:29:49.620 So Foz, please set that up.

00:29:50.620 And I think he's out in Arizona anyway.

00:29:52.620 So you'll have to come back.

00:29:53.620 We have to come back to AmFest and then you can meet him.

00:29:56.620 Oh.

00:29:57.620 I would love to.

00:29:58.620 I would love to.

00:29:59.620 All right, we'll see.

00:30:00.620 We'll see December.

00:30:01.620 Although it won't be the same this time.

00:30:02.620 I wanted to say, no, of course not.

00:30:03.620 And I wanted to say though, you know, you gave me a very nice call after Charlie's murder.

00:30:09.620 And even beyond that on a personal level, you gave a speech at the Tommy Robinson rally,

00:30:14.620 I think just three days after Charlie's assassination.

00:30:18.620 Tell us what it felt like to be up there, how many people were there.

00:30:22.620 And just from a personal level, thank you for doing that.

00:30:25.620 And turning that into this sort of interesting interplay of Western civilization, Charlie,

00:30:31.620 what he stood for, everything the movement stands for.

00:30:34.620 I mean, you can't even really put into words what that moment was.

00:30:37.620 Yeah, absolutely.

00:30:38.620 I mean, thank you for bringing it up because that rally, I mean, it was, of course,

00:30:44.620 it was completely transformed after.

00:30:47.620 It was already set.

00:30:48.620 It was already set, you know, for weeks, for weeks.

00:30:50.620 I didn't even, we were thinking maybe should I, will I go?

00:30:53.620 And I don't know.

00:30:54.620 We were thinking about it.

00:30:55.620 Yeah, yeah.

00:30:56.620 Tommy Robinson organized it and it was like, it called the United Kingdom rally.

00:30:59.620 So it was very nationalist, you know, event.

00:31:02.620 It was at his 2018 rally.

00:31:04.620 So that's why I was thinking, you know, maybe, maybe go back and do another one, you know.

00:31:07.620 Yeah, yeah.

00:31:08.620 Next time you should come.

00:31:09.620 I will.

00:31:10.620 But it was, you know, of course, we were expecting people to come out, waving their flags,

00:31:15.620 talking about things like re-migration.

00:31:17.620 And when I went there, I saw, of course, a sea of flags, but I also saw Charlie's portrait,

00:31:24.620 like everywhere, everywhere.

00:31:27.620 So it completely transformed the event in and of itself.

00:31:30.620 Like, and personally, I mean, I told you on the phone, right, that it was, it was genuinely

00:31:36.620 different this time.

00:31:37.620 I was, for the first time, not excited to go because spirits were just so heavy.

00:31:44.620 You know, we were afraid.

00:31:45.620 We were sad and it just, we were only thinking about Charlie and what had happened.

00:31:51.620 And also, on a personal note, like, if I'm honest, my husband and I, you know, when we

00:31:58.620 saw the images of what happened to Charlie and in the days afterwards, we were just set,

00:32:03.620 crying, and also scared.

00:32:05.620 Scared.

00:32:06.620 Like, okay, this just happened to one of our bravest warriors and now we're settled to go

00:32:12.620 to London and stand on the stage, you know, at a protest.

00:32:16.620 And not inside.

00:32:17.620 Outside.

00:32:18.620 Not outside.

00:32:19.620 Not inside.

00:32:20.620 It's outside.

00:32:21.620 And there is no, you know, there is no way that you know who's going to be in front of

00:32:25.620 you there.

00:32:26.620 And, of course, millions of people were set to come.

00:32:27.620 So it was like, I was a bit afraid for the first time in my life.

00:32:31.620 Which is a feeling that I don't know.

00:32:34.620 Of course, you know, you get nervous sometimes if you have to perform and you have to go in

00:32:38.620 front of a large audience, but this was a totally different experience.

00:32:41.620 So why do it then?

00:32:43.620 Because we had to.

00:32:44.620 You know, because if you then say, okay, we're not going to go, I'm not going to go,

00:32:49.620 then the people who killed Charlie got what they wanted.

00:32:52.620 So we had to go.

00:32:53.620 And I'm really glad afterwards that we went because it was incredible.

00:32:59.620 The energy that we felt there, I think what happened to Charlie amplified that by, you

00:33:05.620 know, a number that I can't even quantify.

00:33:08.620 It was unlike anything that I've ever seen before.

00:33:11.620 And you have been to tons of political rallies.

00:33:13.620 I've been to tons of political rallies.

00:33:15.620 This one was different.

00:33:16.620 It was different not just in numbers.

00:33:17.620 It was different in energy.

00:33:19.620 And, of course, the media lies about it.

00:33:21.620 They were like, I think the BBC was saying that there were 110,000 people there, which is

00:33:25.620 like funny because we had helicopters flying over.

00:33:28.620 Everyone with eyes can see the images.

00:33:30.620 There were millions of people out there.

00:33:32.620 In the beginning, like we spoke to police officers who were saying, we think that there

00:33:36.620 are about 3 million people here.

00:33:38.620 I mean, it was definitely closer to that than to what the BBC said.

00:33:43.620 There's been some, you know, undercurrents, I think, that rose to the surface in not only

00:33:52.620 Charlie's murder, but in this rally with Tommy Robinson.

00:33:55.620 This idea that we're actually in a fight for Western civilization itself.

00:34:00.620 And I actually brought that up when I spoke at Charlie's Memorial.

00:34:05.620 I say, I hope, I hope and I actually believe that 100 years from now, 200 years from now,

00:34:11.620 when they look back and they say, how was Western civilization saved?

00:34:15.620 They will point back.

00:34:16.620 And one of the two or three moments that they'll point to was that the murder of Charlie Kirk

00:34:20.620 was what saved the West because it galvanized people into what we're actually fighting for.

00:34:26.620 I think you're right.

00:34:27.620 I think you're absolutely right.

00:34:29.620 It transformed everything for everyone, I think, in this fight.

00:34:34.620 And, of course, we knew that this is a dangerous fight to fight, right?

00:34:39.620 We were talking on the phone.

00:34:41.620 Of course, I called you because I wanted to know also how you were doing personally,

00:34:44.620 because I know you were very close to Charlie.

00:34:47.620 But we were talking about, like, what's at stake here and how we were aware of that,

00:34:53.620 coming from the Netherlands.

00:34:55.620 And you knew both names.

00:34:57.620 We talked about the political assassinations of Pimfertuyn and Theo van Gogh,

00:35:01.620 two of our most, I would say, prominent political figures 20 years ago in my country were assassinated.

00:35:08.620 Both of them in broad daylight.

00:35:10.620 So one of them, of course, was a right wing politician.

00:35:13.620 He was about to become the prime minister in the next elections.

00:35:16.620 That's how, you know, how popular he was.

00:35:19.620 How different maybe our fate would have looked if he had, in fact, become the prime minister.

00:35:25.620 I think quite different.

00:35:27.620 And Theo van Gogh was a journalist who was very critical of Islam.

00:35:31.620 And he got murdered by an Islamist. 0.99

00:35:34.620 Pimfertuyn got murdered by a climate activist.

00:35:37.620 So two major political assassinations more than 20 years ago.

00:35:40.620 I grew up knowing that.

00:35:42.620 So going into this, I've always known, you know, that this is a real possibility.

00:35:48.620 That we are, you know, on the right where we're arguing for freedom of speech.

00:35:53.620 We're arguing for freedom in general.

00:35:55.620 We're arguing for our national identity to preserve.

00:35:58.620 But on the other side, there are people who want to kill us.

00:36:01.620 And those assassinations, if I remember correctly, they were in public, right?

00:36:04.620 Yeah.

00:36:05.620 Both of them were in public.

00:36:06.620 You know, I forget if I ever told you this, but one of the very first political events

00:36:11.620 that I ever put together was on my college campus in 2009 when I brought Yurt Wielder's to campus.

00:36:20.620 And he brought with him Lars Vilks, the cartoonist, right?

00:36:24.620 Mm-hmm.

00:36:25.620 And this is, you know, we're coming up almost 20 years ago.

00:36:29.620 And that's how I knew about this violence.

00:36:32.620 And that's how I knew about how horrific the situation had become in the EU.

00:36:38.620 And also the same, at the same time, I understood that, you know, this fight is very serious.

00:36:44.620 This fight is absolutely lethal if you come out and speak the wrong thing.

00:36:49.620 But at the same time, you can't stop just because the enemy is angry.

00:36:58.620 You can't stop just because you made someone upset.

00:37:01.620 In fact, that shows you that what you're doing is potentially, it's working, it's gaining traction.

00:37:07.620 You're actually winning.

00:37:08.620 In fact, it's actually a signal you should do more.

00:37:10.620 Of course.

00:37:11.620 Yeah, they wouldn't want to kill us if they weren't afraid of us.

00:37:13.620 So clearly there is power within our voices and there's power within what we do.

00:37:19.620 And it's, I mean, it would be the coward's way out, right, if we were to stop.

00:37:24.620 We have to continue doing what is right because we both know that this is not just about politics.

00:37:30.620 This is a spiritual battle.

00:37:31.620 We are fighting for good, you know.

00:37:33.620 We are fighting for God and this is not the only life that we will live.

00:37:36.620 So knowing that, you really don't have another option, I think, than to continue and keep on trying to make change for the better.

00:37:46.620 And in Europe, I mean, like I said, this is more than 20 years ago that these two major assassinations happened in just my small little country, right?

00:37:55.620 But it says a lot about the political atmosphere there and it hasn't gotten better necessarily.

00:38:02.620 I mean, the right wing, of course, is gaining ground.

00:38:11.620 Jack is a great guy.

00:38:12.620 He's written a fantastic book.

00:38:14.620 Everybody's talking about it.

00:38:15.620 Go get it.

00:38:16.620 And he's been my friend right from the beginning of this whole beautiful event.

00:38:20.620 And we're going to turn it around and make our country great to get to you.

00:38:24.620 Amen.

00:38:25.620 And we're back with Ava Vlar.

00:38:28.620 Ava, of course, has abandoned human events daily for the last couple of years. 0.78

00:38:34.620 She's run back to Europe.

00:38:36.620 But we've roped her back in.

00:38:38.620 I have something else to do, you know.

00:38:40.620 Got married, had a baby.

00:38:41.620 I mean, come on, right?

00:38:42.620 I think they're good excuses.

00:38:43.620 Somebody was running around saying, be a rebel, start a family.

00:38:46.620 And then someone decided to listen.

00:38:47.620 And someone listened.

00:38:48.620 My goodness.

00:38:49.620 These things.

00:38:50.620 I don't know how they happen.

00:38:52.620 But what's amazing is, so we've been talking about some of the, obviously, the horrific

00:38:57.620 things that happened to Charlie, the horrific things that happened to great patriots in your

00:39:01.620 home country.

00:39:02.620 But there is something amazing that's happened.

00:39:05.620 And that's been, in the wake of Charlie's murder, in the wake of his assassination, we've

00:39:09.620 seen this just global movement, I would say, of people who are now waking up to the real

00:39:14.620 truth of leftist political violence that's going on, and Islamist political violence,

00:39:19.620 which is also something that we're facing.

00:39:21.620 But at the same, and you look at the people talking about the grooming gangs in London,

00:39:25.620 which has, of course, been Tommy's story from day one.

00:39:28.620 Right.

00:39:29.620 And the fact that that is now a mainstream story, a mainstream scandal.

00:39:32.620 Keir Starmer, of course, is pushing these crazy Netflix videos to try to, oh, it's

00:39:36.620 white children and white boys.

00:39:38.620 That's who's doing it.

00:39:39.620 And people can just see the truth.

00:39:41.620 And there is now a youth movement that's, to my mind, as an outsider, it seems like it's

00:39:48.620 all across Europe fighting for remigration, fighting for truth, for the, just the historic

00:39:59.620 native lands of the European people, which is something that if you said publicly 10 years

00:40:04.620 ago, I mean, you would be censored, you'd be banned, you'd be silenced, you'd be ostracized

00:40:08.620 from society.

00:40:09.620 That's absolutely right.

00:40:10.620 Right.

00:40:11.620 And now it's the number one movement.

00:40:12.620 Tell us what's going on.

00:40:13.620 I mean, the things that builders, for example, was vilified for, for so many years was in,

00:40:20.620 like, a cordon sanitaire, right?

00:40:22.620 As we always say, he was completely ostracized.

00:40:25.620 Those things are like nothing compared to the stuff that we now say on the right.

00:40:31.620 Right.

00:40:32.620 Like, okay.

00:40:33.620 Like what would he say?

00:40:34.620 No.

00:40:35.620 Like, you know, we're not just talking anymore about like, oh, maybe there are some cultural

00:40:39.620 differences between people who come from, you know, an Islamic background and Christians.

00:40:43.620 We are saying, no, look, we're about to become minorities in our own countries.

00:40:47.620 We need re-migration. 1.00

00:40:48.620 Well, we see New York City right now.

00:40:50.620 We see New York City right now where next week we are going to have a foreign born Muslim

00:40:55.620 will become, and I think more than likely will become the mayor of America's greatest

00:41:00.620 city.

00:41:01.620 No, but we are having, that's the thing.

00:41:03.620 I think that's, it's really, it's a good sign, right?

00:41:05.620 That we have all these young people, especially also what happened to Charlie.

00:41:09.620 I think it was the ultimate sign once again, that it doesn't matter how reasonable you

00:41:14.620 are because Charlie was an extremely reasonable young man, right?

00:41:17.620 He's far more reasonable than me.

00:41:18.620 I'm not very reasonable at all.

00:41:20.620 I think that I could count myself more on your side of the, of the game in that sense,

00:41:25.620 but they still killed him, right?

00:41:27.620 So I think that that's what people so realize now that you might as well just say what you

00:41:32.620 really want to say.

00:41:33.620 And so things have become more normalized.

00:41:35.620 The Overton window has been pushed.

00:41:37.620 We in Europe are having actual conversations now, which is absolutely necessary about how

00:41:42.620 civic nationalism just doesn't work, not at this rate, you know, like we cannot talk about

00:41:47.620 assimilation and integration of millions and millions of foreign young men.

00:41:52.620 It just doesn't work.

00:41:53.620 Once white people in their own homelands become minorities, 0.87

00:41:56.620 we have a real issue on our hands, right?

00:41:59.620 Because that means that those countries are not going to be the countries that they always

00:42:02.620 have been.

00:42:03.620 I'll give you a great example that we're seeing in New York right now, because when

00:42:07.620 you look at this race, so there's, there's two Democrats that are in the lead.

00:42:10.620 There's also a one Republican.

00:42:12.620 And so it's a split three way race.

00:42:13.620 But we look at the two Democrats, the native born New Yorkers are going for Cuomo, who was,

00:42:19.620 is the, some of the former governor and he was a former governor himself.

00:42:22.620 The foreign born New Yorkers are almost 100% in lockstep for the immigrant candidate. 0.87

00:42:30.620 This, and this guy is as far left as they come.

00:42:33.620 He is a cultural Marxist.

00:42:34.620 And by the way, people say, oh, no, it's just about economics and housing.

00:42:38.620 And that's all he cares about.

00:42:39.620 You can go look at his timeline. 0.94

00:42:40.620 This guy is targeted white people.

00:42:42.620 He said that, he said that the NYPD is the tool of the IDF. 0.89

00:42:46.620 He says that he is going to confiscate the wealth specifically from white people and hand

00:42:51.620 it out to, to everybody else.

00:42:53.620 He had a line in 2020, he said, the black and brown alliance will defeat white supremacy.

00:42:58.620 He's been very clear about where he stands.

00:43:01.620 And yes, he's charming and he puts on these affectations like, oh, he's just a nice, normal, regular guy.

00:43:06.620 But you can just go roll back the clock to, oh, I don't know, about six months ago and he's been using all of this rhetoric.

00:43:12.620 This is, and I keep saying, it's Radio Rwanda for white people. 0.99

00:43:16.620 And that's exactly what's going to happen in New York City when he becomes mayor.

00:43:20.620 And you, and I think it's because you guys in Europe have seen all of these issues across so many cities, obviously London and national level.

00:43:30.620 We're not just talking about the big cities anymore.

00:43:32.620 And that's, I think what people of New York need to understand.

00:43:34.620 It's not just New York.

00:43:35.620 Like it's going to come to the countryside too.

00:43:37.620 If you look at what is happening in Europe, all of the assaults that we're talking about, right?

00:43:42.620 The rapes, the murders, they used to happen in the big cities alone.

00:43:46.620 Let's say 20 years ago, we already saw that connection between crime and immigration. 0.80

00:43:52.620 Now it's happening in the countrysides.

00:43:55.620 So the message, I think that the people are-

00:43:57.620 In Ireland, it's everywhere.

00:43:58.620 Everywhere.

00:43:59.620 So the message that the people are pushing this agenda want to give you is that you can't hide.

00:44:03.620 Like that little, you know, quaint Dutch town with the mills in the back.

00:44:08.620 You're not safe there either anymore.

00:44:10.620 Like that's, that's over.

00:44:11.620 And so of course you need to stop it now in New York.

00:44:15.620 Before it spreads out and you're not safe anywhere anymore.

00:44:20.620 Because that is our situation now.

00:44:22.620 We are no longer in the position to say, okay, we need to close the borders and that's fine.

00:44:27.620 That's enough.

00:44:28.620 It's not going to be enough.

00:44:29.620 Like with our demographics in Northwestern Europe, every single country is heading for becoming a minority in their own.

00:44:38.620 Like for the native population to become a minority in their own country by the end of this century.

00:44:43.620 And oftentimes even before the first half of this century ends.

00:44:47.620 So we're talking 25 years.

00:44:49.620 And you look at the school classes, these photos of, you know, here's, here's what this school class looks like.

00:44:54.620 Kindergarten, first grade, second grade, third grade.

00:44:56.620 And suddenly you're, you're saying, wait a minute.

00:44:58.620 You know, if I'm in, you know, if I'm looking at, look at the Netherlands, I say, where are the Dutch kids? 0.99

00:45:02.620 If I'm looking at England, I say, where are the British kids? 1.00

00:45:05.620 Where are we going to look at Ireland?

00:45:06.620 Where are the Irish kids? 0.97

00:45:07.620 And why wouldn't we be allowed to say that we want that?

00:45:10.620 Why wouldn't we as Dutch people, as the Dutch native people say, be able to say, we want the Netherlands to stay Dutch?

00:45:17.620 Why wouldn't we be able to say, we want Germany to say German?

00:45:20.620 We want France to say French? 1.00

00:45:21.620 You know, that's, I think it's common sense.

00:45:24.620 And I think it's fair.

00:45:25.620 By the way, it's interesting.

00:45:26.620 You never hear these issues with the Asian countries.

00:45:28.620 No one ever says this about China.

00:45:30.620 No one ever says this about Japan.

00:45:31.620 No one ever says, which has incredibly low immigration.

00:45:34.620 China, of course, has been having their economic boom without needing migrants. 0.80

00:45:39.620 Funny how that works, that they're able to do so.

00:45:41.620 Because diversity means less white people. 0.59

00:45:43.620 This is specifically an agenda targeting white people.

00:45:45.620 And I can say that as a European.

00:45:47.620 Like, just look at the numbers.

00:45:49.620 It's right there.

00:45:50.620 And that's something that I'm worried about.

00:45:52.620 And I would like your opinion on that, Jack.

00:45:54.620 Like, give us some advice.

00:45:55.620 Because, yes, it's true that we are now having these discussions.

00:45:59.620 Like, we're pushing the Overton window.

00:46:01.620 The youth is waking up.

00:46:03.620 But institutionally, we're not gaining much ground.

00:46:06.620 Like, when we're talking about the regulations.

00:46:08.620 When we're talking about the EU.

00:46:10.620 When we're talking about our governments.

00:46:11.620 Like, this is still happening.

00:46:13.620 And we're running out of time really, really quickly.

00:46:15.620 So I don't know if the young generation that is maybe has woken up to this fact.

00:46:21.620 Is going to grow up fast enough to get into those positions of power to make change.

00:46:26.620 That's like my main worry right now for us.

00:46:28.620 Look, I would say you just have to fight hard and hold the line wherever it is.

00:46:32.620 And hold people's feet to their fire.

00:46:33.620 And you look, by the way, it's that the youth movement in some countries has been very successful.

00:46:38.620 You look at Avde.

00:46:39.620 You even look at the youth movement in Poland, for example.

00:46:42.620 Poland, a country which, funny enough, doesn't have these problems.

00:46:45.620 Because they've never accepted the migrants. 1.00

00:46:48.620 And when I go to Poland, it's wonderful.

00:46:50.620 I was there several times this year for the election.

00:46:52.620 And then the inauguration of Nowronski.

00:46:54.620 Huge, huge win.

00:46:55.620 All of these issues came up during the election.

00:46:58.620 And it's perfectly safe when you walk around Warsaw any time of night.

00:47:02.620 Tanyte and I got six million videos for just a video of us walking around on, like, a Saturday night at midnight.

00:47:09.620 And everyone's out.

00:47:10.620 They're having fun.

00:47:11.620 No crime whatsoever.

00:47:12.620 And the economy is booming.

00:47:14.620 Right.

00:47:15.620 It's absolutely booming.

00:47:16.620 And you look at their youth movement.

00:47:17.620 It started with youth marches, just like what Tommy did in London.

00:47:20.620 And they were able to leverage that into actually getting into political power.

00:47:24.620 Right.

00:47:25.620 And from there, now they have influence on the institutions.

00:47:28.620 Because even if, and in multi-party democracy, even if they can't form a government, what they can do is be kingmakers.

00:47:34.620 What they can do is hold that influence.

00:47:36.620 And I look at everything that you're doing and so many of the other freedom fighters.

00:47:40.620 I'm going to come back to Europe soon.

00:47:41.620 We'll be there.

00:47:42.620 It's great.

00:47:43.620 Eva Vlar, thank you so much for rejoining your former podcast, Human Events Daily.

00:47:47.620 We should do this more often.

00:47:49.620 Thanks, Jack.

00:48:06.620 Bye.

00:48:07.620 Bye.

00:48:08.620 Bye.

Human Events Daily with Jack Posobiec - October 30, 2025

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