Human Events Daily with Jack Posobiec - Halloween is a Christian Holiday

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00:00:50.320 Christ is king.

00:00:52.020 Ladies and gentlemen, welcome aboard to a very special edition of Human Events Daily.

00:00:56.560 Today, we are going to be rerunning our discussion recorded last year with Dr. Taylor Marshall,

00:01:04.640 entitled The True Story of Halloween, the Occult, and the Apocalypse.

00:01:10.700 We put this together last year to provide the truth about the Christian origins of Halloween

00:01:17.060 and debunk a lot of the rumors and myths and hoaxes that could spread this time of year

00:01:23.020 that Halloween was some kind of pagan, satanic holiday.

00:01:27.380 Now, that doesn't mean that Satanism isn't real.

00:01:29.840 And that doesn't mean that the demonic isn't real.

00:01:32.900 But we have to put it into proper context.

00:01:35.460 We actually later won an award for this episode from the tellies for 2022.

00:01:41.520 So I'm very proud to present to you Human Events Halloween special,

00:01:46.560 the true story of Halloween, the occult, and the apocalypse.

00:01:49.860 Dr. Taylor Marshall.

00:01:53.020 It is the eve of All Hallows' Eve here on the podcast here on Real America's Voice,

00:02:00.920 if you're watching.

00:02:02.060 And I wanted to really dig into this because every year at Halloween or Hallowtide,

00:02:07.240 All Hallowtide, if you're Catholic like me, you get this sort of response from the Internet.

00:02:13.660 Every time I post something like a family photo, we did Adam's family last year,

00:02:17.300 we're doing, I'm not going to tell you what we're doing this year.

00:02:19.340 We'll have to look, but we're in the works.

00:02:22.340 So Tanya Tay is hard at work making the kids costumes, and it's going to be great.

00:02:26.700 My mother, of course, also helping out making so many of the costumes.

00:02:29.820 But what I wanted to do was explain the true history of Halloween, get into this.

00:02:36.700 Is it a Christian holiday?

00:02:37.920 Is it a pagan holiday?

00:02:39.040 Is it Satan's holiday?

00:02:40.380 What is it?

00:02:40.820 And I thought, who better than to talk about this and all, you know, really get in, by

00:02:44.900 the way, to the occult, into paganism, exorcisms, all of these different things, the author

00:02:51.180 of the new book, Antichrist and Apocalypse, my good friend, Dr. Taylor Marshall.

00:02:57.000 Dr. Taylor Marshall, welcome to the program.

00:02:59.300 Hey, great to be here.

00:03:00.420 This is going to be a good show.

00:03:01.460 This is a good topic.

00:03:02.740 So right off the bat, answer the question, right?

00:03:04.920 Is Halloween, was this, we are told every time I tweet about this, I get a comment,

00:03:10.580 this was just a pagan holiday, it was this Irish thing, it was Samhain or Soween, however

00:03:15.140 they say it, you just stole it, and you converted it to Christianity, and the Pope stole it, and

00:03:19.240 they forced everyone to do it, and that's what Halloween is.

00:03:21.140 Is that true?

00:03:23.440 Well, it's a little more complicated than that.

00:03:25.640 I mean, we know early in the church, I mean, St. Ephraim the Syrian, St. John Chrysostom,

00:03:31.140 I mean, these are guys in the 300s, 400s.

00:03:33.720 They know of a holy day of all hallows, or all saints, celebrating all the martyrs.

00:03:41.580 Originally, it was more of a spring harvest, it was after the festival of Pentecost, which

00:03:47.960 is a Jewish feast that we Catholics received and continue to celebrate, even this year.

00:03:55.140 And it's really to remember all the saints.

00:03:58.600 And hallow, Halloween, is literally short for hallow evening, the evening before hallows

00:04:06.040 day.

00:04:06.740 What does hallow mean?

00:04:08.180 Well, if you say the Lord's Prayer, our Father who art in heaven, hallowed be thy name, what

00:04:14.240 does that mean?

00:04:15.020 It's right there.

00:04:15.900 It's right there.

00:04:16.820 Hallowed.

00:04:17.280 Holy.

00:04:17.820 Hallowed.

00:04:18.180 It's the same word as holy, saint, and it essentially means saint, right?

00:04:23.760 It's an old English word for saint.

00:04:25.960 Yeah, the Latin is sanctificator, saint.

00:04:28.820 And so yeah, hallow, holy, saint are all the three, same meaning.

00:04:35.380 So just in an older English, you know, instead of saying holy be thy name, they said hallowed

00:04:40.040 be thy name.

00:04:40.660 And when they refer to the saints, they referred to a hallowed person, a holy person, someone

00:04:47.580 with a halo, if you want to keep...

00:04:49.380 Well, okay, so hold on, hold on.

00:04:50.520 So let's, let's say that you're, let's say that you're listening to this and you, you have

00:04:54.060 no idea what you're talking about.

00:04:55.520 What, what the heck then is, is all saints day?

00:04:58.660 Is that tied to anything?

00:05:00.080 Is there any day after it?

00:05:01.380 What's all hallowed tide?

00:05:02.820 What are these things?

00:05:04.640 Yeah.

00:05:04.780 So in the early church, you know, for the first 300, 400, first 300 so years, there

00:05:10.920 were, I mean, martyrs galore.

00:05:13.040 I mean, just, if you were a faithful Christian, I mean, you were, they're getting killed left

00:05:17.920 and right all over the Roman empire.

00:05:19.620 And so what early Christians would do in local regions is they would say, you know, our bishop,

00:05:24.420 our pastor, you know, every August 4th, that was the day he was killed by the Romans.

00:05:30.460 And so every August 4th, uh, they would come together and they'd have a memorial service.

00:05:35.560 We call it a mass, a requiem mass.

00:05:37.520 They would usually go to his tomb and they would celebrate the Eucharist, the Lord's supper,

00:05:43.340 the body and blood of our Lord Jesus Christ, and commemorate how he conformed his Christ

00:05:48.800 as a martyr, his life to Christ as a martyr.

00:05:52.680 Now, over time, it was like, well, there's so many people who are holy and went to heaven,

00:05:58.100 and they're hallowed and they don't have a day on the calendar, right?

00:06:02.920 I mean, we Catholics have a saint pretty much for every day on the calendar, but, you know,

00:06:06.640 there's so many other saints who have never been canonized.

00:06:09.880 Calendars get pretty full.

00:06:10.840 Yeah, full.

00:06:11.800 So, well, there was this idea that we need to come together and, and, you know, everyone

00:06:16.980 who's in heaven should be recognized like high five.

00:06:20.720 You made it.

00:06:21.620 You're part of the big cloud of witnesses that surround us here on earth.

00:06:24.700 And there was, the early church believed.

00:06:26.580 And they teach, and they still do, right?

00:06:29.980 That if you, if you are martyred for the faith, I mean, you're, you are just considered a saint.

00:06:33.740 That's just exact.

00:06:35.360 You are good.

00:06:36.420 You're good.

00:06:36.900 Yeah.

00:06:37.080 I mean, if you give your life for Jesus Christ, you are a saint.

00:06:41.320 That's correct.

00:06:42.680 Right.

00:06:42.940 Period.

00:06:43.200 That's it.

00:06:43.620 Swiss guards, 1527 saints.

00:06:46.600 Boom.

00:06:47.480 Yeah.

00:06:47.880 You're good.

00:06:48.280 You're good.

00:06:48.640 So, so that's kind of the whole idea of an all saints day.

00:06:54.640 Now, originally it was, uh, commemorated the first time formally in Rome.

00:07:00.940 It was in the Eastern church and the Syrian church was May 13th, which is an important

00:07:04.840 day.

00:07:05.100 Cause that's our lady Fatima. 1.00

00:07:07.000 That's right.

00:07:07.500 Six, 10 Pope Boniface the fourth.

00:07:10.400 There was this huge temple in Rome called the Pantheon.

00:07:14.060 It's still there to this day.

00:07:15.180 It's an amazing building.

00:07:16.280 It's around.

00:07:17.340 Pretty well.

00:07:17.640 I have, we were just there.

00:07:19.500 I mean, I think it's in Da Vinci code if you, you know, those kinds of movies, but it's

00:07:23.680 this round building with an Oculus in it.

00:07:25.640 And that was a temple to all the gods, Pan, all Theon gods, all the gods.

00:07:35.280 Well, the Pope was like that bogus.

00:07:37.940 You can't have a temple to all the gods.

00:07:39.480 So what he did is, is he consecrate, well, first he did an exorcism on that building

00:07:45.280 to drive out the demons.

00:07:46.300 Cause it's a false, you know, temple.

00:07:49.480 And then he consecrated it as a Christian church, as a Catholic church.

00:07:54.020 And he brought in, get this cart loads, wagon loads, wheelbarrow loads of relics from the

00:08:02.300 catacombs.

00:08:03.980 Wow.

00:08:04.420 Remember in the catacombs, there are all these people who'd been martyred, right?

00:08:08.020 And saints.

00:08:08.560 And he brought them into this church and that this church is dedicated to the Virgin Mary

00:08:13.820 and all the martyrs and all the saints.

00:08:17.440 And so it became custom to commemorate all the saints in Rome on that day when the church

00:08:23.820 of all the gods was exercised and then reconsecrated to all the saints of Jesus.

00:08:30.100 So that happened in the year 610 in Rome.

00:08:36.160 And then later on, as you get more towards later in the medieval era, in the 900, 800s,

00:08:44.400 900s, you start to see its transition to celebrating it in the fall.

00:08:49.920 And that's where we get November the 1st as the feast day of all saints.

00:08:54.680 And the eve of that is of course, October 31st.

00:08:59.140 And a lot of that has to do with the harvest.

00:09:02.160 And as you know, from the book of the apocalypse and Jesus teaching in the gospels, you know,

00:09:06.700 the bringing in of souls to heaven is usually referred to as the harvest of Jesus Christ,

00:09:12.380 bringing people in.

00:09:13.000 So this harvest idea kind of was more appropriate, you know, for an all saints idea.

00:09:19.960 And that's how it got lodged at November 1st.

00:09:22.980 So it's all saints day, all hallows day.

00:09:26.500 Which then, of course, is also followed by all souls day.

00:09:30.080 So that's all souls is just everyone.

00:09:32.260 Now, and that's a little bit of a different concept.

00:09:34.560 Have you ever heard about the creepy volcano story, Jack?

00:09:38.100 Lay it on me, brother.

00:09:39.700 Lay it on me.

00:09:41.360 So this is pretty interesting.

00:09:42.500 So as you, as you know, we Catholics, we pray for the dead because the Jews in the Old Testament prayed for the dead.

00:09:50.220 The early Christians, all of them prayed for the dead. 1.00

00:09:53.460 You can read that in 2nd Maccabees chapter 12, verse 42 and forward.

00:09:58.100 Martin Luther removed that from the Bible.

00:10:01.480 A little bit of a controversy.

00:10:02.520 We won't get into that right now.

00:10:04.580 But in the...

00:10:06.700 And there's instances, by the way, as well in, I believe, Acts and in the epistles where it seems like they're referring to that practice as well.

00:10:14.840 Yeah, in the epistles, there's one place in particular in Paul where it very much refers to someone in the past tense and he's saying a prayer.

00:10:21.980 And it seems like, well, most people say that he's talking about a dead Christian.

00:10:28.420 So, yeah, that's another show.

00:10:31.800 Unless you want to just go into prayers in the dead right now, maybe.

00:10:34.280 But my point is, my point is, though, is that it's lodged right there after All Saints Day.

00:10:39.780 So it's a day for the dead.

00:10:41.120 It's All Saints Day.

00:10:42.480 And then prior to that is the first day of that.

00:10:45.020 We've got three days.

00:10:45.340 Right?

00:10:45.560 So this is a hallowed tide.

00:10:47.380 Right.

00:10:48.680 Halloween, hallowed day, November 1st.

00:10:51.700 And then all souls.

00:10:53.780 So all saints is everybody in heaven.

00:10:55.880 All souls is everybody in purgatory.

00:10:58.100 We've got to talk about purgatory.

00:11:00.360 So here's the cave story.

00:11:01.860 Listen to this.

00:11:02.340 This is interesting.

00:11:02.800 So in the 900s, there's a French pilgrim returning from the Holy Land.

00:11:07.640 And he's coming back to France.

00:11:10.180 And he meets this hermit who lives near a cave.

00:11:13.780 And near the cave is this opening in the earth like a volcano where lava comes out and there's this noise.

00:11:20.220 And the hermit says that when he prays, he can hear voices coming from the volcano.

00:11:27.980 All right.

00:11:28.520 This is a legend, but it's kind of an interesting story.

00:11:30.700 Okay.

00:11:30.940 And he hears the demons complaining about all these holy monks at Cluny, which is a monastery, who are praying so much and freeing souls from purgatory.

00:11:41.040 So this hermit goes and tells the abbot of those monks, hey, I met this hermit who lives at a cave next to a volcano.

00:11:47.840 And here's what he told me, your monks are praying so much and so well that it's delivering all these souls from purgatory.

00:11:53.820 And the abbot, whose name was Odilo, was so moved.

00:11:57.580 He said, that's it.

00:11:59.040 The day after All Saints, we're going to do just an all-day prayer fest for the souls of purgatory on November 2nd.

00:12:05.980 And then that spread to the whole church.

00:12:08.380 But it all started with the volcano story.

00:12:11.220 So it starts with the volcano story.

00:12:13.060 So coming up, right, lava coming up, like a very hellish kind of.

00:12:17.620 Yeah, hellish thing going on.

00:12:19.180 But also a connotation of burning, which is tied towards the word purgatory, of course, it's the same root word as the word for purification.

00:12:26.880 Right?

00:12:27.000 That's the process.

00:12:27.660 Exactly.

00:12:28.500 Yeah, purging.

00:12:29.340 Yeah, purging.

00:12:30.860 And so we're coming up on our first break.

00:12:33.140 Coming up on our first break, we've got about one minute left.

00:12:36.100 But just close out on this idea that these dates, I mean, I don't hear you mentioning anything pagan here.

00:12:43.460 No, no.

00:12:44.440 And remember, everything that's holy and sacred to God, the devil wants to attack.

00:12:50.620 So Christmas is about the birth of baby Jesus.

00:12:53.440 So what are they going to do?

00:12:55.040 Materialism.

00:12:55.520 Like all the, you know, just the indulgence, you know, and all the bad things that can go on with Christmas.

00:13:03.780 That's just the devil attacking a holy day.

00:13:05.620 Same thing with Easter.

00:13:07.020 Easter is the resurrection of Jesus.

00:13:09.060 The devil wants to thwart that.

00:13:10.420 So, again, you know, of course, if you're talking about all the saints, people who are disciples of Jesus Christ and became holy, the devil hates that.

00:13:17.680 He's going to thwart that.

00:13:18.640 So I think we'll talk about this more.

00:13:20.440 It's not about running away and abandoning a holy day.

00:13:23.800 It's about reclaiming it.

00:13:26.300 Reclaiming the holy days.

00:13:27.980 Reclaiming all of our holy days.

00:13:29.620 The practices of the early church.

00:13:32.060 Praying for the martyrs.

00:13:33.400 It started with martyrs.

00:13:35.080 Then it extended to saints.

00:13:36.680 The hallowed.

00:13:38.000 Praying for the hallowed.

00:13:39.620 Stay tuned.

00:13:40.340 You know, so, Dr. Marshall, last year when I was getting into this online debate, and you know me, if you follow me on Twitter, you know I like to get in these debates.

00:13:47.620 It's that I found a website, believe it or not, on the Halloween debate called historyforatheists.com.

00:13:53.500 Now, I know, not exactly the kind of website you'd think that, you know, a good Catholic boy, Polish Catholic would be reading.

00:13:58.400 But I said, well, hold on.

00:13:59.640 Let me see what it says, because this is very interesting.

00:14:01.740 Because this is an analysis of Halloween.

00:14:04.640 By the way, they also have articles on Christmas and Easter that has no dog in the fight, right?

00:14:09.820 They have no dog in the fight as to whether it's pagan, whether it's Christian, whether it's a bunch of mumbo jumbo. 0.96

00:14:15.260 They just want to know what's the actual history of the practice.

00:14:20.160 And they come in completely on the side with resources and references.

00:14:27.060 I mean, the whole thing is like 5,000 words.

00:14:28.660 Highly recommend everybody read this because it's a completely secular account of, and it includes everything that you just talked about.

00:14:36.160 I don't know if it has a volcano story, actually, but it talks about Samhain and the fact that Samhain was not celebrated in November.

00:14:42.900 It talks about the early church.

00:14:44.740 It talks about the dates, how that was moved around from different places.

00:14:47.320 And by the way, it also gets into the point that that part of Ireland was not part of the Roman Empire at the time.

00:14:55.000 So the idea that the emperor or the Frankish kings or the pope would be referring to something that's taking place beyond the bounds of the empire, beyond the bounds of any part of Christendom or was considered Christendom, it just doesn't make any sense, right?

00:15:09.940 The dates don't match.

00:15:10.760 It's not like today where they're just, you know, Googling, hey, what's a cool pagan holiday we can steal, right?

00:15:16.000 And what's interesting, though, in all this is a piece of it that a lot of this comes back to, and I want to read this, that the idea, where does this idea come from?

00:15:25.640 And it spawns all these pop culture blogs, and it comes from basically this really bad 19th century, like a lot of bad things that came from the late 19th century, early 20th century idea of comparative religion, right?

00:15:41.880 This idea of the study of comparative religion, and the original book of this, or the most influential book, I should say, was called The Golden Bough, Golden Bough by Sir James Fraser.

00:15:52.100 And in two volumes in 1890, which eventually expanded, it caused something of a scandal for treating Christianity like any other form of ancient mythology, but effectively established the discipline of comparative religion in the English-speaking world.

00:16:05.720 And so in their reasoning, all religion is just the same thing.

00:16:10.960 For the comparative theologists, they would say, well, no, every religion just takes something from the religions that came before and then adds a little something to it, adds their own spin, but it's really all just the same thing, and it's all mixed up, and that's what we're getting today.

00:16:24.640 And in doing so, you actually lose the rich tapestry, not only, by the way, of actual theology, but just human history, right?

00:16:32.580 Because that's not how it happened in any way.

00:16:35.260 You had wars, certainly.

00:16:37.780 You had, but you had this great religious debate that was going on at the time.

00:16:42.100 You know, I actually said this on another show recently, but the reason that atheists aren't discussed in anywhere, really, in the Bible, is because they didn't exist in biblical times, right?

00:16:52.760 Everyone believed in something, everyone believed in whether it's the God of this tribe or that tribe or the God of the Canaanites, you know, whether it was Baal, it was Moloch, a lot of Moloch worship going on today still. 0.91

00:17:03.420 And the fact was, they were dealing with establishing the one true God, right, for the ancient Israelites and then eventually going into Jesus by fulfilling that through the coming of the Messiah.

00:17:15.680 And so this idea that they would be borrowing things from other religions, it's anathema to what actually happened.

00:17:24.180 Yeah, I mean, it's a good point.

00:17:27.420 Like you were saying that, you know, Ireland wasn't even, that's kind of the narrative that people hear is that they took these jack-o'-lantern myths and somehow imported them into Rome.

00:17:37.080 But one of the big, you know, wrenches in the machine is the Pope who eventually made All Saints on November 1st and moved it from May to November 1st.

00:17:46.560 He was the last non-European Pope until Pope Francis in 2013.

00:17:52.480 He wasn't even from Europe.

00:17:54.220 You know who he's from?

00:17:55.740 Syria.

00:17:56.840 Okay, so the Pope.

00:17:58.360 It's Pope Gregory, right?

00:17:59.400 The fourth?

00:18:00.260 Pope Gregory III.

00:18:01.560 Pope Gregory III.

00:18:02.160 Yeah, he, he, he's the one who, you know, started this process and yeah, he was from Syria.

00:18:11.560 So I don't think he was like trying to get like Irish.

00:18:14.640 It wasn't like an Irish-Syrian, you know. 0.94

00:18:16.920 Yeah, Irish-Syrian fusion.

00:18:18.940 You know, it's like, it's just like he's as far away from Ireland as possible and, and

00:18:23.580 he's the Pope who, you know, starts putting this stuff into play, so.

00:18:28.880 Yeah, it's, it's just a lot of, a lot of really bad research and really bad history that's

00:18:34.040 actually been debunked by, by secular historians for a long time.

00:18:37.840 But it is a popular idea because it's used to combat the church.

00:18:42.700 It's used by secularists.

00:18:44.640 It's used by Satanists and occultists to say, aha, look at you.

00:18:49.120 We, you know, you took your thing from us and now we're taking it back from you.

00:18:52.960 If you, if you go to the city of Salem, by the way, we happen to be there passing through

00:18:57.700 about a year ago.

00:18:59.480 And it's, it's, it's all occult there.

00:19:01.200 Everything is occult in Salem now.

00:19:02.700 Yeah.

00:19:03.040 And it's, it's celebrated.

00:19:04.360 It's absolutely celebrated.

00:19:05.480 I have no idea what was going on back there in Puritan times.

00:19:08.540 You know, the witches, were they real or the witches or was just, I have no idea.

00:19:12.040 Right.

00:19:12.200 We can't really know.

00:19:13.120 But what I do know is there's a lot of witchcraft there today.

00:19:16.920 Absolutely.

00:19:17.800 I mean, it is a nexus.

00:19:18.900 It's like, it's like, well, you and I've talked about before Easter eggs.

00:19:23.220 People are like, oh, Easter eggs are pagan.

00:19:25.240 They mean this, it's this goddess.

00:19:27.040 It's like, no.

00:19:28.140 So in the medieval era and up until recently, you couldn't eat meat or eggs during Lent.

00:19:34.700 It was part of fasting.

00:19:35.960 It was penance.

00:19:36.740 It was to make your life hard, no protein, right?

00:19:39.620 You're living on basically a vegan diet during Lent.

00:19:42.640 And then on Easter Sunday, you got to eat an egg and it would tasted so amazing because

00:19:48.320 you hadn't had an egg in 46 days and people would paint them and be excited about it.

00:19:53.220 It wasn't pagan.

00:19:54.580 It was, by the way, for, for those, for those of you who don't understand how chickens worked,

00:19:58.120 chickens don't know that it's, that it's Lent.

00:20:00.300 So the chickens continue producing the eggs.

00:20:03.520 So you've got all these eggs just stacked up around your house and you have the chickens

00:20:07.560 don't, you can't just go to the chicken and say, hey, wait.

00:20:09.920 So, you know, you've got, you've got to do something with the chicken.

00:20:12.540 So there you go.

00:20:13.320 Yeah.

00:20:13.620 Um, that's, that's where all the, uh, that's where all the folks are listening.

00:20:17.660 Yeah.

00:20:18.040 It's just practical Catholicism. 0.77

00:20:19.860 And I think since our society, you know, since the reformation became more Protestant, especially

00:20:25.420 in America, and then now that we live in a post-Christian era, all of the, sort of the, 0.94

00:20:30.820 the Catholic nuts and bolts and the, the, you know, the underpinning of our culture, it's

00:20:35.940 all forgotten.

00:20:36.800 And then now we have all these people on blogs who are like trying to impose Wicca on everything. 0.96

00:20:42.800 Which is completely made up by the way.

00:20:45.060 Completely.

00:20:45.620 Yeah.

00:20:45.800 So it's, it's not, it's not even, it's, if you were an ancient pagan and ancient occultist,

00:20:51.460 you were definitely not a Wiccan because that was made up. 1.00

00:20:55.820 Yeah.

00:20:56.760 Yeah.

00:20:57.060 So we should, we should talk about that a little bit.

00:20:58.420 So we're, we're, you know, I feel like that's enough for anyone who wants to read this full

00:21:01.920 article.

00:21:02.540 I'll, I'll actually link it here.

00:21:04.040 So, you know, I know, right.

00:21:05.200 Jack Posobiec and Taylor Marshall linking to an atheist website.

00:21:08.160 Um, you know, that that'll be fun, but put us in good standing with the, with our fellow

00:21:13.020 Catholics, uh, for sure. 0.99

00:21:15.360 And, um, but, uh, but, but let's get into this idea that, you know, the occultists really

00:21:21.020 have perverted this holiday and so many other Christian holidays, uh, the same way that in,

00:21:27.440 in all occultism, it's always a perversion of the true faith.

00:21:32.100 Uh, you have the mass, you have the black mass, you have, uh, three, you know, 3 PM becomes 0.92

00:21:37.160 3 AM 3 PM.

00:21:38.180 The traditional, uh, by, by tradition, we believe that's when, when Christ died on the cross with

00:21:42.840 3 AM becomes satanic hour.

00:21:45.080 You see this in movies, by the way, the exorcist, right?

00:21:47.620 This, there's a lot of Catholic, obviously, right.

00:21:50.320 There's the overt Catholic motifs of the rosary, the holy water, the crucifix, the young priest,

00:21:56.480 the old priest.

00:21:57.080 But there's even, there's even deeper stuff.

00:21:58.940 If you know, if you know the background of 3 AM 3 PM itself, et cetera, like this, by

00:22:04.200 the way, just a, another note on that, you know, that's one of the coolest things about

00:22:08.880 growing up Catholic is that number one, you, you never actually have to have this discussion

00:22:12.680 because you just know, uh, you know, inherently that that's what it is.

00:22:16.360 But then also that, uh, it always means that you get the day after Halloween off.

00:22:20.120 So just saying.

00:22:21.680 Yeah, that's right.

00:22:22.900 Yeah.

00:22:23.120 As long as you go to church, as long as you go to church.

00:22:24.820 For us, November 1st is a high holy day.

00:22:28.460 It's a holy day obligation.

00:22:29.500 And that means we have to go to mass.

00:22:31.980 It's just like a Sunday.

00:22:32.760 We have to go to mass.

00:22:33.900 We get to go to mass, but we're required to go to mass because we come and we commemorate

00:22:38.940 all the saints in heaven.

00:22:40.640 And we Catholics like saints.

00:22:43.460 Now people say, well, what about the, in, in Eastern Europe, I don't know if you know

00:22:47.640 this, but in Poland, um, all saints day and all souls day are massive, just absolutely

00:22:52.960 massive.

00:22:53.380 And all souls day, what the polls will do.

00:22:57.380 And, uh, you would see this in Ukraine as well.

00:22:59.360 Probably not, you know, this year, obviously, uh, that might be harder, but I actually, I take

00:23:03.880 that back.

00:23:04.320 I guarantee you, you will see this on November 2nd in Ukraine, even in wartime that for the,

00:23:10.640 in Western Ukraine, you still have a lot of Catholics.

00:23:12.540 They go to the, they will go to the ceremony, the cemeteries and it's candles and it's flowers

00:23:17.640 for your family, for your ancestors.

00:23:19.960 And there's sort of this idea that if you're, if you're not taking care of the graves of

00:23:24.200 your ancestors, um, that you're, you're like, it's, it's, it's a shame, right?

00:23:28.600 It's, it's a personal shame.

00:23:29.840 It's a familial shame that you are not, because the idea being that you have to honor your

00:23:33.680 ancestors, which by the way, last time I checked, that wasn't a recommendation.

00:23:36.960 That wasn't a suggestion from God honoring your, your answer.

00:23:39.920 That's a commandment, right?

00:23:40.740 That's a commandment.

00:23:41.840 And this idea that, and then of course that hopefully it's someone will do that for you

00:23:46.300 at some point.

00:23:48.360 That's right.

00:23:48.920 And I think, you know, people who aren't Catholic get that.

00:23:51.520 They're like, why don't you just worship God?

00:23:53.200 You know, keep it, keep it focused on Jesus.

00:23:54.880 And we do, and we have a distinction in Catholicism.

00:23:58.180 We have this Greek term called doulia and, and then another term called latria and doulia

00:24:03.900 is what we give to humans.

00:24:08.200 Uh, you can say you can give it to the American flag, the cross, like we show respect and honor.

00:24:14.460 We salute.

00:24:15.320 It's not worth it.

00:24:16.340 Yeah.

00:24:16.460 It's a veneration.

00:24:17.420 It's not, it's not.

00:24:18.460 And then the other term latria in Greek is to, is for God alone.

00:24:23.160 So only the father, the son, and the Holy ghost get latria, the true adoration of worship

00:24:29.000 as God.

00:24:30.600 And then the saints get our, our doulia.

00:24:34.000 Like you would respect, you know, in a monarchy, a monarch, we should even respect our president.

00:24:40.400 Um, even though we're not thrilled with who he is, but I mean, we, we show, you know, you

00:24:45.960 like you were in the Navy, you salute, you salute the rank, you salute the uniform, you

00:24:49.740 know, and that form, you salute the rank.

00:24:51.420 You're not like someone can't come in like, why are you worshiping that general or that

00:24:54.880 where you, you know, are you worshiping that admiral?

00:24:56.360 Right.

00:24:56.600 Yeah.

00:24:56.780 No.

00:24:57.200 Yeah.

00:24:57.480 Or why are you worshiping the flag?

00:24:58.960 Well, I'm honoring the flag.

00:25:00.600 It's custom.

00:25:00.880 It's actually called customs and duties.

00:25:02.340 It's considered a duty.

00:25:04.260 Yes, exactly.

00:25:05.140 And, and we believe that we have a duty, um, that we should honor those who were exemplars

00:25:14.180 in following Jesus Christ, you know, St. Mary Magdalene, St. Paul, St. Luke, you know,

00:25:21.060 uh, and all the way into our own time, St. Therese de Lisieux, all these great saints

00:25:25.520 who, and maybe they were martyrs and maybe they were just in a, in their quiet way through

00:25:29.880 suffering or illness.

00:25:31.440 They carried the cross of Jesus.

00:25:33.940 I want to ask you another question, a serious question, maybe a spooky question.

00:25:37.520 Are demons real?

00:25:39.340 Are these spirits, these ghosts, these ghouls, these goblins, uh, this spiritual world that

00:25:45.240 we're called to believe in when I watch a movie like the exorcist or a series like the

00:25:49.260 conjuring, uh, it, they talk about things like this.

00:25:52.860 When I read the Bible, when I read the gospel, Christ performs exorcisms, uh, including transporting,

00:25:59.540 you know, demons like Legion into, into a herd of pigs at one point and they fall off

00:26:04.660 the cliff, they run off the cliff.

00:26:05.900 And so am I supposed to just overlook those things?

00:26:09.460 Am I supposed to think that these are just, well, you know, that was just an early form

00:26:12.740 of mental illness and, you know, he was just, uh, he was curing them through a form of,

00:26:17.560 of, you know, celestial therapy or something, or, or are these things real?

00:26:21.700 And should we, as believers take these seriously?

00:26:25.060 They're most certainly real.

00:26:26.740 If you read the Bible, old and new Testament, there are fallen angels and that's what a

00:26:31.040 demon is.

00:26:32.020 So we, as Christians believe that before our world, our human world was created, that God

00:26:39.540 made the angelic world and he gave them a test.

00:26:42.320 And there's some speculation of, of what that is.

00:26:44.660 And I talk about that in my book, but basically what happened is Satan said, non-servium, I

00:26:50.000 will not serve.

00:26:51.180 I will not serve.

00:26:52.820 And he fell.

00:26:54.180 Uh, there was another angel in our tradition who said, who is like God in Hebrew, Mika'el,

00:26:59.080 who is like God in Mika'el is Michael, St. Michael, the archangel.

00:27:04.500 And so he asked him that question, like, who can be God?

00:27:06.760 You know, you can't say, you can't be God, you know?

00:27:09.180 And so Satan was kicked out.

00:27:10.980 About a third of the angels fell and Satan and those third of angels became demons.

00:27:17.620 They became dark angels.

00:27:19.340 And ever since then, they've been wanting to thwart and bother and bring us to hell.

00:27:26.800 And you see that in the opening of the Bible, Adam and Eve, right?

00:27:30.520 Satan comes and he starts talking to Eve.

00:27:32.640 And in the book of Job, you see Satan comes before God and says, you know, I'm going to

00:27:36.360 go after Job.

00:27:37.500 He's so holy.

00:27:38.440 He thinks he's so righteous.

00:27:39.520 That's because he has such a great life.

00:27:40.660 Let me start taking things away from him and he will curse you, God.

00:27:43.680 And God says, no, he's a just man.

00:27:45.740 And he allows Satan to start tempting and taking things away from Job.

00:27:50.800 And for some reason in God's providence, he's decided to allow these fallen angels to remain

00:27:57.540 around us, to influence us, for us to fight against.

00:28:01.760 And we call it spiritual warfare.

00:28:03.960 And we have to prepare for that.

00:28:05.300 We have to be in a state of grace, you know, to have the sacraments, read the Bible, live

00:28:08.940 holy lives, help the poor, alms, all these things.

00:28:12.880 And so the demons are real.

00:28:14.220 And then we find in the Bible that not only can the demons influence us, they can tempt

00:28:20.280 us.

00:28:20.640 Remember, Satan tempted even Jesus Christ.

00:28:23.380 And even the devil can quote scripture.

00:28:25.180 He can quote scripture.

00:28:27.580 These demons are smart.

00:28:29.360 Well, because there's also this idea, right?

00:28:32.040 So if you're if you're a demon or, you know, a fallen angel and you want to you want to wage

00:28:36.860 war on God, you want to attack God.

00:28:38.860 Well, you can't attack God head on.

00:28:41.600 Right.

00:28:42.100 Yeah.

00:28:42.740 You already lost on that one.

00:28:44.060 You'd be obliterated.

00:28:44.740 You're done. 0.94

00:28:45.560 There's nothing you could do.

00:28:46.500 But here's what you could do.

00:28:47.480 What you could do is find God's creatures, find God's believers.

00:28:55.180 Find God's flock.

00:28:57.260 And you could go and you could target them and you could target them and take them away

00:29:02.280 from God because you can see that God is working with them and God wants them to come closer

00:29:07.400 to him because God wants them to attain heaven.

00:29:09.140 And so you can go and then try and work to thwart his plans.

00:29:14.620 And so they say, you know, they say every, you know, every challenge in every every time

00:29:20.900 we're faced with something like that, it's also that perennial question.

00:29:23.820 Why do bad things happen?

00:29:24.720 Right.

00:29:24.940 And you say, well, every, you know, every suffering is a chance for repentance.

00:29:28.500 And that's tough.

00:29:29.420 That's a very tough lesson.

00:29:30.580 I struggle with that lesson.

00:29:31.840 I struggle with that lesson, that teaching.

00:29:33.740 But it it is something that I just say in my head over and over.

00:29:37.240 Every struggle, every suffering is a chance of repentance.

00:29:39.540 And yeah, yeah, every setback is a setup.

00:29:43.820 And for some reason, God's allowed that.

00:29:46.000 And people, when they get possessed, there's two reasons.

00:29:50.520 I just interviewed an exorcist yesterday, a real exorcist, Father Chad.

00:29:53.740 And we asked, I asked, how do people get possessed?

00:29:57.600 What's happened?

00:29:58.540 And the main way people get possessed is they go looking for it.

00:30:03.120 They get involved.

00:30:04.880 Yeah, they well, you can make a pact with the devil, which is not he says, not actually

00:30:09.540 a pact or a deal with the devil, because the devil has no legal rights because he's already

00:30:14.040 a defeated foe.

00:30:15.320 So his covenants and his his, you know, contracts are void.

00:30:19.740 But people who make these with them enter into partnerships with him or, you know, you

00:30:24.100 can do that explicit where you just say, I want to make a deal with you, Satan, or they

00:30:29.380 get involved in extremely sinful or demonic behavior, witchcraft, seances, Ouija boards,

00:30:41.240 you know, some of these dark arts, dark magic, these kind of things, paganism, pagan rituals,

00:30:48.460 sexual rituals, or really, really criminal activity, mass murdering, you know, these 0.55

00:30:56.200 these really rapes, child rapes, all these kind of things. 1.00

00:31:00.140 These invite the demons into us.

00:31:02.840 And the exorcists say that the demon, when you're possessed, he's not in your soul.

00:31:08.280 A demon can't get in your soul.

00:31:09.660 Demons are actually in your bodies.

00:31:11.820 And when you read the accounts of Jesus exercising people, you see that the demons are in their

00:31:16.980 bodies, not in their souls.

00:31:18.320 So that's the main reason why people get possessed is they open themselves up to the

00:31:23.100 satanic.

00:31:24.300 So if someone says, hey, let's do a seance or, hey, let's get the Ouija board out or let's

00:31:28.840 do anything.

00:31:29.340 You just run as far as you can from that, because if you want demons, that's how you

00:31:33.020 get demons. 0.68

00:31:34.200 Now, you know, on that, it's not it's not what is it?

00:31:38.180 You know, I don't know who makes it the Ouija boards, Fisher Price or whatever.

00:31:40.880 It's not like the company's making a satanic instrument.

00:31:43.820 It's what you're doing with it that becomes satanic.

00:31:46.980 It's not like you go to the store and it's and it's Satan.

00:31:49.200 That being said, you can go to a spirit Halloween and find all sorts of occult paraphernalia there

00:31:53.740 just right on the shelf, right on the shelf.

00:31:56.260 They have a little section for it.

00:31:57.980 And the point is, it's not that stuff doesn't come into your home and make you satanic.

00:32:02.600 But what it does is it opens your you're opening yourself up to it.

00:32:06.380 You're opening up that world.

00:32:07.620 You're you're inviting it in.

00:32:08.960 You're giving you're giving it license.

00:32:11.880 Right.

00:32:12.420 You talk about legal rights.

00:32:13.580 You're giving it license, giving Satan license or some of the lesser demons license to be

00:32:18.060 able to come and then partake, right, partake of your life, of your corpus.

00:32:23.860 Your spirit is still there.

00:32:25.080 And you do see this in, like you said, some of these, you know, even the original Exorcist

00:32:29.880 movie, there's this idea of the struggle within the young girl that she's which, by the

00:32:34.760 way, people don't realize that's based on a true story.

00:32:36.780 Um, you know, some of the more theatrical elements were added short walking on the ceiling and

00:32:41.700 all, but the, you know, speaking in tongues and the lesions and, um, knowing, knowing information

00:32:48.500 about the people that she's talking to that, you know, you couldn't possibly know, um, saying

00:32:53.640 I'm, I'm here.

00:32:54.180 I'm speaking with your mother, knowing the mother's name, speak all of that goes back.

00:32:58.920 Sometimes they speak Latin, Greek, Hebrew, ancient languages that, that a person wouldn't

00:33:03.640 normally know.

00:33:04.260 And that's, that's, those are the kind of.

00:33:06.780 Preternatural signs.

00:33:08.200 That's like, okay, there's something in this person.

00:33:10.660 So when you do this occult stuff, you're doing something spiritual and you're not doing it

00:33:14.880 with God and his angels, you're doing it with the underworld and that opens you up and it's

00:33:19.600 really bad.

00:33:20.120 But the other way you can be possessed, and this is kind of scary to think about is sometimes

00:33:25.420 extremely holy people.

00:33:28.180 Um, God allows demons to come into their lives and, uh, they're usually, well, almost always

00:33:34.640 victorious and the exorcist yesterday told me a story of a very holy nun who is in, I think

00:33:40.820 in Bavaria, uh, one of the holiest nuns in the region.

00:33:43.820 And she was possessed and the exorcist came and she said that it was revealed that because

00:33:51.380 of a sin that had taken root in the area, God had allowed this sign to happen to get

00:33:56.800 everybody's attention.

00:33:57.600 And he said, what is the sin?

00:33:59.420 And he says, divorce, people are turning to divorce.

00:34:02.660 And so once they knew that he did the exorcism and the demon came right out and then the nun

00:34:06.840 was fine.

00:34:07.660 You know, like the supernatural thing that God wanted.

00:34:10.060 So sometimes you can be very holy and not do anything wicked.

00:34:14.360 Just like in the story of Job and the Bible, he was a very holy man.

00:34:18.620 Obviously there's no, there's no rules for, for God.

00:34:20.920 But if God decides to write something, it's, you know, he's in.

00:34:24.760 Yeah.

00:34:25.320 But, but he said almost every single time you're dealing with someone who's possessed, uh, there

00:34:30.120 is some sort of, of magical dark art, wicked occult practice that has happened.

00:34:38.140 Um, that's usually traumatic to a person.

00:34:41.140 And, uh, they always, they always do a triage to make sure, you know, this is not some kind

00:34:46.440 of mental illness and they want to confirm that there's something preternatural, spiritual

00:34:52.240 in this person.

00:34:53.900 Um, that's not just psychological.

00:34:56.180 And once they have that and get approval, they do an exorcism and an exorcism is no joke.

00:35:02.060 Right.

00:35:02.500 And, and by the way, there's, there's no, you're, you're sanctioned exorcisms are done by priests,

00:35:07.580 right?

00:35:07.860 There's no, there's no lay exorcisms.

00:35:10.600 I mean, you can pray for the person and you can, you can hold whatever you want to do,

00:35:15.640 pray there and you should, you should be praying for the person, obviously.

00:35:18.500 But you know, the idea that you're going to be performing this outside, I mean, that's

00:35:21.400 like, that's like saying, you know, you're, you're, you're a member of the lady and you're

00:35:25.400 going to go perform open heart surgery on somebody.

00:35:27.960 It's, it's not probably not exactly.

00:35:29.840 Or I'm, you know, you're just a lay person and I'm going to go like do a seal team six

00:35:34.920 up on my sit by myself.

00:35:36.640 It's just not, you're not trained for that.

00:35:38.880 Right.

00:35:39.300 And there's a lot that goes into it, uh, you know, rituals and preparation and you, you open

00:35:44.080 yourself up too.

00:35:46.540 Well, that's what they say.

00:35:47.640 If, if you, if a lay person or someone, even a priest, who's not an exorcist, let me emphasize

00:35:52.340 this.

00:35:52.840 Even a priest, who's not an exorcist, who tries to do one, he can get retribution and

00:35:58.100 have, and have demons come into his life.

00:35:59.920 So you have to be properly, you know, appointed certified in order to do it.

00:36:08.300 Uh, you, you can tell a little bit into this.

00:36:10.260 I've read, I've read a lot of the work of, uh, father Amworth, um, watch his videos quite

00:36:15.320 a bit.

00:36:15.760 Um, he, so he was the Vatican's exorcist.

00:36:18.700 He was someone who's been very public about this.

00:36:21.560 And at one point he actually made a video and we're seeing the break that you haven't

00:36:25.060 actually seen this yet.

00:36:25.800 So you got to go watch this now when you're done, that he allowed the director of the

00:36:29.500 original exorcist movie to actually film an exorcism in Italy that he was performing.

00:36:37.060 Um, it was this, this, uh, Italian to the mother, young mother.

00:36:41.320 And, uh, you hear the speaking in tongues, you see the, the sort of contortions that the

00:36:47.700 body is doing and you you're able to watch this.

00:36:51.160 No, it's, it's just him.

00:36:52.260 It's the director, some members of her family, no camera crew, just him, single camera in

00:36:56.620 the room.

00:36:57.080 They show the entire thing.

00:36:58.200 Wow.

00:37:00.000 Yeah.

00:37:01.040 I've never been to one, but I've, I've heard, I've spoken to exorcist priests who have done

00:37:05.320 them and, um, and they, it's not just like you come in and, uh, five minutes it's over.

00:37:09.940 Like these can go on for months actually.

00:37:12.520 Well, it's, that's right.

00:37:13.680 It's, it's, it's a very long process.

00:37:15.680 It's not like you see in the movies.

00:37:17.040 It's you, you know, you, you don't just go in once and then it's done.

00:37:20.000 It's, it's multiple times.

00:37:21.220 Cause at the end of the day, um, and correct me if I have this wrong and we're coming up on a

00:37:25.200 break here, but you, it's, it's not just that you're performing the, the exorcism because that

00:37:32.920 person has been possessed.

00:37:34.580 God has allowed them to be possessed.

00:37:36.120 And that person has to repent for that, which they, that sin they committed there, uh, whatever

00:37:43.980 they let in, they have to repent for their actions and then the exorcism will begin to

00:37:49.260 take place.

00:37:50.780 Yeah.

00:37:51.240 The, the person needs to be right with God.

00:37:53.500 And the exorcist I spoke to yesterday says, look, uh, you have to, he gives him a whole

00:37:58.700 thing, list of things they need to do before he'll even begin the exorcisms.

00:38:02.260 Cause they've got to be spiritually.

00:38:03.400 Right.

00:38:04.000 We've been talking about the Christian history of Halloween.

00:38:08.480 Yes.

00:38:08.780 The Christian history before the pagans had anything to do with it, which they never did.

00:38:12.960 And before the occultists tried to come in, pervert it, take it away and steal it as they 0.91

00:38:17.780 do to all things Christian, you know, and, and, and actually Dr. Marshall, we were talking

00:38:21.780 a little bit in the break.

00:38:22.940 And I think we should say this on air as well, though, that, uh, the original book of Dracula,

00:38:27.780 right?

00:38:27.900 The original book of Dracula, we said the movie, the exorcist obviously has a lot of Catholic 0.95

00:38:32.660 motifs, but the original book of Dracula, it, it is so much more, uh, Christian based

00:38:39.640 that I don't think people realize where essentially it is, it is the family of Dracul has made this

00:38:45.220 deal with the devil, just like you were talking about.

00:38:47.260 And the idea is that he's been possessed by Satan.

00:38:50.680 Um, he has to drink the blood of the living in a perversion of drinking the blood of the

00:38:56.860 eternal, right?

00:38:58.140 So it keeps him undead as opposed to dead and then achieving, uh, apotheosis to coming to

00:39:03.260 heaven.

00:39:04.240 And then, um, this, this, this sense that this is also why, you know, crucifixes and holy

00:39:10.840 water are things that ward him off.

00:39:12.200 So some of it has translated into the movies, but not quite.

00:39:16.160 Yeah.

00:39:16.680 I mean, it's perfect segue into the, the book of revelation, the apocalypse, because in

00:39:20.680 the book of revelation, Satan is called the dragon.

00:39:24.260 And in Greek it's Draco and in Latin Draco, where you get Dracula, Dracula means little

00:39:29.160 dragon.

00:39:29.940 Right.

00:39:30.140 So, so we're literally, you know, Dracula is the little dragon, the little Satan, because

00:39:36.040 he's so given himself over to the devil.

00:39:38.020 And he's, he's using all, if you read the novel, by the way, do yourself a favor and

00:39:42.900 read the original Bram Stoker, Dracula novel.

00:39:45.540 It's short, it's good.

00:39:46.920 I keep on Amazon or wherever you want to get books.

00:39:49.660 It's an excellent book.

00:39:50.680 And as you read it, especially if you're a Catholic, you'll see all this Christian sort 0.84

00:39:55.160 of black mirror, you know, analogy that's towards the, that's bent towards the demonic

00:40:01.740 that comes from Christian.

00:40:02.560 So he's talking about baptism.

00:40:03.760 He's talking the Eucharistic language of eating the flesh of the body and blood of Jesus Christ,

00:40:09.680 as in the Lord's supper, the Eucharist, all this sort of Christian theology is inverted

00:40:15.880 and perverted by Dracula, the little dragon, Satan himself.

00:40:20.940 And he is possessed by Satan.

00:40:22.980 As you read the novel, you begin to realize that he, he's in need of an exorcism.

00:40:27.600 And what he's doing is he's, he's trying to have this Eucharist on other human beings.

00:40:32.800 He's eating off of them, uh, in order to preserve his life.

00:40:37.220 And we know that Jesus says, unless you eat my flesh and drink my blood, you have no life

00:40:41.720 in you.

00:40:42.320 That's the true gospel of Jesus Christ.

00:40:44.980 And then Dracula has completely subverted it in a satanic ritual.

00:40:49.400 Uh, so yeah.

00:40:51.600 And even the whole idea of virgins and consecrated virgins in relationship to nuns and all these

00:40:57.400 things are going on in Dracula that are, it's very obvious once you kind of just say it to

00:41:02.260 somebody.

00:41:02.860 And then when you read the actual novel, you realize, oh, well it was overt in the novel

00:41:07.020 and it's just been through Hollywood's lens that they've, they've, you know, diluted all

00:41:10.900 of this.

00:41:12.240 Yes.

00:41:12.640 Uh, and it takes place of course in Transylvania, which is kind of Romania ish area with some

00:41:18.920 kind of some interesting Christian, uh, motifs in the background there.

00:41:23.000 Yeah, it's a, it's a fantastic story and it kind of just, you know, shows a perversion

00:41:29.060 of what true Christianity is and how Christ is our life and, and how we're incorporated

00:41:35.740 him and consecrated him.

00:41:37.140 And that's what gives us eternal life.

00:41:39.180 And I think, you know, our, our culture now is kind of the same thing.

00:41:42.180 People pray on other people to perpetuate, uh, their lifestyle, their life.

00:41:48.080 And it's just, it's, it's totally.

00:41:50.020 No, it's very sad.

00:41:51.060 And so, I mean, my, my, my final point on that is just, you know, if you're going to

00:41:54.920 celebrate Halloween, celebrate, you know, have fun with your kids, go out, have a good

00:41:59.180 time, but, but also don't forget, don't forget the original part of it, right?

00:42:03.720 Don't forget the, the origin of this, the martyrs, the holy martyrs, the holy saints, uh,

00:42:10.440 understand the history and the, and, and the true rich tradition that you're actually taking

00:42:16.920 part in by celebrating, not just Halloween, right?

00:42:20.460 So that's my point.

00:42:21.080 If you're going to celebrate Halloween, don't just celebrate Halloween, but also celebrate

00:42:24.620 all saints, all souls.

00:42:27.120 So now you're completing what's called the hallow tide.

00:42:29.940 But what was interesting is that you, you mentioned as well, though, that, that all

00:42:34.860 saints is that it's a holy day of obligation, high holy day for Catholics, but the reading

00:42:40.480 on all saints day is always from the book of the apocalypse, also known as the book of

00:42:46.240 revelation.

00:42:46.600 Is that correct?

00:42:48.160 So what's the connection?

00:42:49.480 Why is that?

00:42:50.360 Why is that the direct connection?

00:42:51.620 Well, when you read the apocalypse, the book of revelation, uh, as in my new book, antichrist

00:42:58.480 and apocalypse, there is, there are sevens, there's a seven, seven churches, seven seals,

00:43:04.620 seven trumpets, and then seven plagues.

00:43:07.080 That's the seven fold cycle.

00:43:09.380 It just starts cycling, literally twirling around in the book of the apocalypse.

00:43:13.560 And as you, as you go through it, you realize that there's this very strong harvest theme in

00:43:20.680 the book of the apocalypse.

00:43:21.620 And this goes back to the gospels where Christ says, you know, the harvest is plentiful, but

00:43:26.040 the laborers few, the angels will come and collect the harvest.

00:43:29.520 I mean, there's all these parables that have to do with harvesting, right?

00:43:32.500 So, and it's harvesting of souls, right?

00:43:36.000 And Christ even has them in the apocalypse.

00:43:38.040 He's even depicted as having the sickle and reaching the sickle down into the earth and

00:43:42.280 harvesting souls.

00:43:43.500 So this whole idea that he is the kind of this great farmer.

00:43:49.500 Remember, Adam was a farmer, right?

00:43:51.800 Adam and Eve, he was cultivating the garden.

00:43:53.780 Christ is the new Adam. 0.99

00:43:54.920 He was found in the garden.

00:43:56.020 Mary Magdalene thought he was the gardener.

00:43:57.840 Remember that?

00:43:58.700 Right.

00:43:58.860 On Easter Sunday.

00:44:00.040 So he is in a way cultivating a garden, but is it just like grapes and grain?

00:44:05.480 Well, in the Eucharist, it is that, but it transubstantiates in his body and blood.

00:44:08.920 And somehow it, it brings in this harvest of souls.

00:44:11.840 And so on all saints day, traditionally we read from the book of the apocalypse and it's

00:44:19.440 this whole idea.

00:44:20.320 And it's the reading from, from revelation chapter seven, where the angel comes and it

00:44:26.720 marks on the forehead with the sign of the towel, which is a cross on all the faithful 0.98

00:44:34.220 on earth.

00:44:34.820 And it marks them and denotes them that they are to be harvested for Jesus Christ. 0.65

00:44:39.060 They are to be taken for him.

00:44:40.780 And that's the beautiful imagery in the book of revelation for all saints day is that we

00:44:46.260 have been marked on our heads with the sign of the cross and baptism.

00:44:50.480 We're baptized on our heads.

00:44:52.460 And then in the Catholic tradition, the priest also puts chrism on our heads and marks us

00:44:58.020 with the sign of the cross, the seal of the, of the cross of Jesus Christ and tells us

00:45:03.440 to, to preserve this baptism until the day of our death.

00:45:07.100 So in a way he marks us for the harvest.

00:45:11.180 This is why eventually I think all saints day was moved to November 1st because it fits

00:45:16.140 with this apocalyptic book of revelation harvest theme, because this, that's the time of the

00:45:22.620 harvest, you know, that final fall harvest of bringing in everything before it turns winter.

00:45:26.960 Uh, so yeah, there's all these things, by the way, is obviously just as a normal fall

00:45:32.400 tradition, anywhere you are in the world.

00:45:34.440 It's not tied to paganism.

00:45:35.700 The fact that it's becoming, you know, fall and autumn and we're collecting the crops,

00:45:40.920 right?

00:45:41.100 That's just, that's just life.

00:45:42.520 You know, that's again, part of God's creation.

00:45:45.060 Uh, but there's no, there's no direct, and by the way, if you, if you end up for anyone

00:45:49.160 who ends up reading that article that I hope you do, it points out that even, even by the

00:45:53.540 way, if you go into the Irish harvest festival, uh, in, in the ancient times of sowing, there

00:45:59.080 was no connection to paganism whatsoever, just a harvest festival.

00:46:01.820 That's all it, that's it.

00:46:02.900 That's all it was.

00:46:03.540 Yeah.

00:46:03.920 I mean, you bring in a bunch of grain and you have tons of food and your work is all

00:46:07.480 done.

00:46:07.800 What are you going to do?

00:46:08.440 You're going to eat great food and bake some pies and let the kids eat the apples and,

00:46:15.380 you know, just have a grand old time.

00:46:17.500 And, and that's kind of part of it is, is it celebrating as we read in the book of revelation,

00:46:22.220 you know, that Christ has marked us and he is coming back for us.

00:46:27.240 He has, we're special to him and he wants to bring us into a storehouse, which is heaven.

00:46:33.740 And that's the great hope of it all.

00:46:35.500 And that's what all saints is all about.

00:46:37.000 It, we, we look to those who already made it, you know, it's kind of like if you're,

00:46:41.520 you know, you're overcoming alcoholism or drugs or a sex addiction meeting and knowing

00:46:47.000 people who have been successful in that journey inspires you like, okay, I can do it.

00:46:52.820 You know, I can do it.

00:46:53.940 I can go one more day when I say, you know, I'm, I'm 17 years sober.

00:46:59.520 Um, I try not to make, I try not to, you know, that's like bragging it's, it's, but,

00:47:04.080 but I, I try to mention that every once in a while.

00:47:07.000 Uh, we just, we just had that, you know, it's just a couple of, uh, what, two, three

00:47:10.560 weeks ago, um, was my anniversary.

00:47:12.780 And I try to mention that I try to mention that, you know, often it's not like, uh, oh,

00:47:16.820 look, I'm better than you think.

00:47:17.880 No, it's not like that at all.

00:47:18.840 It's, it's a message to anybody that is struggling out there that, Hey, 17 years, boom.

00:47:25.320 Didn't, didn't think I could do 17 years, but here I am.

00:47:27.840 It's possible.

00:47:29.100 And, and that's, that, that is just an analogy to where we look in this lab.

00:47:32.940 Like, is it really worth being a Christian? 1.00

00:47:34.780 Is it really worth trying to live chase?

00:47:36.800 Is it really worth going to church every Sunday and, you know, praying every day and this family.

00:47:42.060 And then you look at the saints and you're like, they did it.

00:47:45.620 Thousands of people have done it.

00:47:47.260 And one day, one day though, when, when we realized that, you know, go, uh, had a priest

00:47:54.860 once who said, you know, the best place to count your money is in the graveyard, best

00:47:58.100 place to check your bank account, you know, that, that this is, this is a, you know, this

00:48:02.800 is a testing ground that we're in right here.

00:48:04.840 This is this, this reality that we're in, whatever it truly is, right.

00:48:09.020 It's, it's, it's set up for us as a test.

00:48:12.220 That's the true life, right.

00:48:14.200 Beyond this.

00:48:14.960 And this is, you know, so your answer to the test will take place there, not here.

00:48:20.840 And you're gonna be there a whole lot longer than you are here.

00:48:23.300 That's right.

00:48:23.880 Final, final words, final words.

00:48:25.600 We're almost out of time.

00:48:26.720 Dr. Taylor Marshall, the new book, Antichrist Apocalypse available everywhere that books

00:48:31.380 are sold.

00:48:31.800 Hasn't been banned yet.

00:48:32.980 Get it before it is.

00:48:34.460 Um, we're definitely going to have to order some for it.

00:48:36.360 Cause everyone, I'm in every, all the producers asking me for a copy now.

00:48:40.140 Uh, but what's, what's the final word?

00:48:41.600 Why should people read this book now?

00:48:42.800 Well, you know, everything creepy, the book of revelation has a lot of creepy, scary,

00:48:48.680 unusual stuff in it.

00:48:49.700 And all of those things are there just like the demonic, just like death, just like all

00:48:53.960 these things we're talking about as we get close to Halloween, all of that there is to

00:48:58.420 inspire us to have hope and confidence that Christ conquered death.

00:49:02.580 He conquered the demons.

00:49:03.580 He conquered the devil.

00:49:04.880 All these things that scare us, he's conquered and we have hope in him.

00:49:09.040 And that's the message of all saints be a saint memento Mori memento Mori memento Mori

00:49:15.640 Dr.

00:49:16.680 Taylor Marshall.

00:49:17.160 The book is Antichrist Apocalypse.

00:49:19.080 Thank you so much.

00:49:19.880 God bless you.

00:49:21.320 Happy Halloween.

00:49:22.440 Ladies and gentlemen, as always, you have my permission to lay ashore.

00:49:24.700 Amen.

00:49:25.700 Amen.

00:49:26.880 .

Human Events Daily with Jack Posobiec - October 31, 2025

Halloween is a Christian Holiday

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