Halloween is a Christian Holiday
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Is Halloween a Christian holiday or a pagan holiday? Is it Satan s holiday? What does the Bible say about halloween? And why does it have a name? Dr. Taylor Marshall, author of The True Story of Halloween, the Occult, and the Apocalypse, takes us back to our discussion with Jack Posobiec on this episode of Human Events Daily.
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This is Human Events with your host, Jack Posobiec.
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Ladies and gentlemen, welcome aboard to a very special edition of Human Events Daily.
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Today, we are going to be rerunning our discussion recorded last year with Dr. Taylor Marshall,
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entitled The True Story of Halloween, the Occult, and the Apocalypse.
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We put this together last year to provide the truth about the Christian origins of Halloween
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and debunk a lot of the rumors and myths and hoaxes that could spread this time of year
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that Halloween was some kind of pagan, satanic holiday.
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Now, that doesn't mean that Satanism isn't real.
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And that doesn't mean that the demonic isn't real.
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We actually later won an award for this episode from the tellies for 2022.
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So I'm very proud to present to you Human Events Halloween special,
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the true story of Halloween, the occult, and the apocalypse.
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It is the eve of All Hallows' Eve here on the podcast here on Real America's Voice,
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And I wanted to really dig into this because every year at Halloween or Hallowtide,
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All Hallowtide, if you're Catholic like me, you get this sort of response from the Internet.
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Every time I post something like a family photo, we did Adam's family last year,
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we're doing, I'm not going to tell you what we're doing this year.
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So Tanya Tay is hard at work making the kids costumes, and it's going to be great.
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My mother, of course, also helping out making so many of the costumes.
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But what I wanted to do was explain the true history of Halloween, get into this.
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And I thought, who better than to talk about this and all, you know, really get in, by
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the way, to the occult, into paganism, exorcisms, all of these different things, the author
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of the new book, Antichrist and Apocalypse, my good friend, Dr. Taylor Marshall.
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So right off the bat, answer the question, right?
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Is Halloween, was this, we are told every time I tweet about this, I get a comment,
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this was just a pagan holiday, it was this Irish thing, it was Samhain or Soween, however
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they say it, you just stole it, and you converted it to Christianity, and the Pope stole it, and
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they forced everyone to do it, and that's what Halloween is.
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Well, it's a little more complicated than that.
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I mean, we know early in the church, I mean, St. Ephraim the Syrian, St. John Chrysostom,
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They know of a holy day of all hallows, or all saints, celebrating all the martyrs.
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Originally, it was more of a spring harvest, it was after the festival of Pentecost, which
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is a Jewish feast that we Catholics received and continue to celebrate, even this year.
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And hallow, Halloween, is literally short for hallow evening, the evening before hallows
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Well, if you say the Lord's Prayer, our Father who art in heaven, hallowed be thy name, what
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It's the same word as holy, saint, and it essentially means saint, right?
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And so yeah, hallow, holy, saint are all the three, same meaning.
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So just in an older English, you know, instead of saying holy be thy name, they said hallowed
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And when they refer to the saints, they referred to a hallowed person, a holy person, someone
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So let's, let's say that you're, let's say that you're listening to this and you, you have
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What, what the heck then is, is all saints day?
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So in the early church, you know, for the first 300, 400, first 300 so years, there
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I mean, just, if you were a faithful Christian, I mean, you were, they're getting killed left
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And so what early Christians would do in local regions is they would say, you know, our bishop,
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our pastor, you know, every August 4th, that was the day he was killed by the Romans.
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And so every August 4th, uh, they would come together and they'd have a memorial service.
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They would usually go to his tomb and they would celebrate the Eucharist, the Lord's supper,
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the body and blood of our Lord Jesus Christ, and commemorate how he conformed his Christ
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Now, over time, it was like, well, there's so many people who are holy and went to heaven,
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and they're hallowed and they don't have a day on the calendar, right?
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I mean, we Catholics have a saint pretty much for every day on the calendar, but, you know,
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there's so many other saints who have never been canonized.
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So, well, there was this idea that we need to come together and, and, you know, everyone
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who's in heaven should be recognized like high five.
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You're part of the big cloud of witnesses that surround us here on earth.
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That if you, if you are martyred for the faith, I mean, you're, you are just considered a saint.
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I mean, if you give your life for Jesus Christ, you are a saint.
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So, so that's kind of the whole idea of an all saints day.
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Now, originally it was, uh, commemorated the first time formally in Rome.
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It was in the Eastern church and the Syrian church was May 13th, which is an important
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There was this huge temple in Rome called the Pantheon.
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I mean, I think it's in Da Vinci code if you, you know, those kinds of movies, but it's
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And that was a temple to all the gods, Pan, all Theon gods, all the gods.
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So what he did is, is he consecrate, well, first he did an exorcism on that building
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And then he consecrated it as a Christian church, as a Catholic church.
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And he brought in, get this cart loads, wagon loads, wheelbarrow loads of relics from the
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Remember in the catacombs, there are all these people who'd been martyred, right?
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And he brought them into this church and that this church is dedicated to the Virgin Mary
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And so it became custom to commemorate all the saints in Rome on that day when the church
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of all the gods was exercised and then reconsecrated to all the saints of Jesus.
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And then later on, as you get more towards later in the medieval era, in the 900, 800s,
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900s, you start to see its transition to celebrating it in the fall.
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And that's where we get November the 1st as the feast day of all saints.
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And the eve of that is of course, October 31st.
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And as you know, from the book of the apocalypse and Jesus teaching in the gospels, you know,
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the bringing in of souls to heaven is usually referred to as the harvest of Jesus Christ,
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So this harvest idea kind of was more appropriate, you know, for an all saints idea.
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Which then, of course, is also followed by all souls day.
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Now, and that's a little bit of a different concept.
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Have you ever heard about the creepy volcano story, Jack?
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So as you, as you know, we Catholics, we pray for the dead because the Jews in the Old Testament prayed for the dead.
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The early Christians, all of them prayed for the dead.
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You can read that in 2nd Maccabees chapter 12, verse 42 and forward.
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And there's instances, by the way, as well in, I believe, Acts and in the epistles where it seems like they're referring to that practice as well.
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Yeah, in the epistles, there's one place in particular in Paul where it very much refers to someone in the past tense and he's saying a prayer.
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And it seems like, well, most people say that he's talking about a dead Christian.
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Unless you want to just go into prayers in the dead right now, maybe.
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But my point is, my point is, though, is that it's lodged right there after All Saints Day.
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And then prior to that is the first day of that.
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So in the 900s, there's a French pilgrim returning from the Holy Land.
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And he meets this hermit who lives near a cave.
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And near the cave is this opening in the earth like a volcano where lava comes out and there's this noise.
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And the hermit says that when he prays, he can hear voices coming from the volcano.
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This is a legend, but it's kind of an interesting story.
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And he hears the demons complaining about all these holy monks at Cluny, which is a monastery, who are praying so much and freeing souls from purgatory.
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So this hermit goes and tells the abbot of those monks, hey, I met this hermit who lives at a cave next to a volcano.
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And here's what he told me, your monks are praying so much and so well that it's delivering all these souls from purgatory.
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And the abbot, whose name was Odilo, was so moved.
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The day after All Saints, we're going to do just an all-day prayer fest for the souls of purgatory on November 2nd.
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So coming up, right, lava coming up, like a very hellish kind of.
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But also a connotation of burning, which is tied towards the word purgatory, of course, it's the same root word as the word for purification.
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Coming up on our first break, we've got about one minute left.
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But just close out on this idea that these dates, I mean, I don't hear you mentioning anything pagan here.
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And remember, everything that's holy and sacred to God, the devil wants to attack.
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Like all the, you know, just the indulgence, you know, and all the bad things that can go on with Christmas.
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So, again, you know, of course, if you're talking about all the saints, people who are disciples of Jesus Christ and became holy, the devil hates that.
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It's not about running away and abandoning a holy day.
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You know, so, Dr. Marshall, last year when I was getting into this online debate, and you know me, if you follow me on Twitter, you know I like to get in these debates.
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It's that I found a website, believe it or not, on the Halloween debate called historyforatheists.com.
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Now, I know, not exactly the kind of website you'd think that, you know, a good Catholic boy, Polish Catholic would be reading.
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Let me see what it says, because this is very interesting.
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By the way, they also have articles on Christmas and Easter that has no dog in the fight, right?
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They have no dog in the fight as to whether it's pagan, whether it's Christian, whether it's a bunch of mumbo jumbo.
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They just want to know what's the actual history of the practice.
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And they come in completely on the side with resources and references.
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Highly recommend everybody read this because it's a completely secular account of, and it includes everything that you just talked about.
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I don't know if it has a volcano story, actually, but it talks about Samhain and the fact that Samhain was not celebrated in November.
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It talks about the dates, how that was moved around from different places.
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And by the way, it also gets into the point that that part of Ireland was not part of the Roman Empire at the time.
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So the idea that the emperor or the Frankish kings or the pope would be referring to something that's taking place beyond the bounds of the empire, beyond the bounds of any part of Christendom or was considered Christendom, it just doesn't make any sense, right?
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It's not like today where they're just, you know, Googling, hey, what's a cool pagan holiday we can steal, right?
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And what's interesting, though, in all this is a piece of it that a lot of this comes back to, and I want to read this, that the idea, where does this idea come from?
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And it spawns all these pop culture blogs, and it comes from basically this really bad 19th century, like a lot of bad things that came from the late 19th century, early 20th century idea of comparative religion, right?
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This idea of the study of comparative religion, and the original book of this, or the most influential book, I should say, was called The Golden Bough, Golden Bough by Sir James Fraser.
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And in two volumes in 1890, which eventually expanded, it caused something of a scandal for treating Christianity like any other form of ancient mythology, but effectively established the discipline of comparative religion in the English-speaking world.
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And so in their reasoning, all religion is just the same thing.
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For the comparative theologists, they would say, well, no, every religion just takes something from the religions that came before and then adds a little something to it, adds their own spin, but it's really all just the same thing, and it's all mixed up, and that's what we're getting today.
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And in doing so, you actually lose the rich tapestry, not only, by the way, of actual theology, but just human history, right?
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You had, but you had this great religious debate that was going on at the time.
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You know, I actually said this on another show recently, but the reason that atheists aren't discussed in anywhere, really, in the Bible, is because they didn't exist in biblical times, right?
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Everyone believed in something, everyone believed in whether it's the God of this tribe or that tribe or the God of the Canaanites, you know, whether it was Baal, it was Moloch, a lot of Moloch worship going on today still.
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And the fact was, they were dealing with establishing the one true God, right, for the ancient Israelites and then eventually going into Jesus by fulfilling that through the coming of the Messiah.
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And so this idea that they would be borrowing things from other religions, it's anathema to what actually happened.
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Like you were saying that, you know, Ireland wasn't even, that's kind of the narrative that people hear is that they took these jack-o'-lantern myths and somehow imported them into Rome.
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But one of the big, you know, wrenches in the machine is the Pope who eventually made All Saints on November 1st and moved it from May to November 1st.
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He was the last non-European Pope until Pope Francis in 2013.
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Yeah, he, he, he's the one who, you know, started this process and yeah, he was from Syria.
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So I don't think he was like trying to get like Irish.
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You know, it's like, it's just like he's as far away from Ireland as possible and, and
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he's the Pope who, you know, starts putting this stuff into play, so.
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Yeah, it's, it's just a lot of, a lot of really bad research and really bad history that's
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actually been debunked by, by secular historians for a long time.
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But it is a popular idea because it's used to combat the church.
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It's used by Satanists and occultists to say, aha, look at you.
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We, you know, you took your thing from us and now we're taking it back from you.
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If you, if you go to the city of Salem, by the way, we happen to be there passing through
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I have no idea what was going on back there in Puritan times.
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You know, the witches, were they real or the witches or was just, I have no idea.
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But what I do know is there's a lot of witchcraft there today.
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It's like, it's like, well, you and I've talked about before Easter eggs.
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So in the medieval era and up until recently, you couldn't eat meat or eggs during Lent.
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It was to make your life hard, no protein, right?
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You're living on basically a vegan diet during Lent.
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And then on Easter Sunday, you got to eat an egg and it would tasted so amazing because
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you hadn't had an egg in 46 days and people would paint them and be excited about it.
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It was, by the way, for, for those, for those of you who don't understand how chickens worked,
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So you've got all these eggs just stacked up around your house and you have the chickens
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don't, you can't just go to the chicken and say, hey, wait.
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So, you know, you've got, you've got to do something with the chicken.
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Um, that's, that's where all the, uh, that's where all the folks are listening.
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And I think since our society, you know, since the reformation became more Protestant, especially
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in America, and then now that we live in a post-Christian era, all of the, sort of the,
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the Catholic nuts and bolts and the, the, you know, the underpinning of our culture, it's
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And then now we have all these people on blogs who are like trying to impose Wicca on everything.
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So it's, it's not, it's not even, it's, if you were an ancient pagan and ancient occultist,
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you were definitely not a Wiccan because that was made up.
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So we should, we should talk about that a little bit.
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So we're, we're, you know, I feel like that's enough for anyone who wants to read this full
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Jack Posobiec and Taylor Marshall linking to an atheist website.
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Um, you know, that that'll be fun, but put us in good standing with the, with our fellow
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And, um, but, uh, but, but let's get into this idea that, you know, the occultists really
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have perverted this holiday and so many other Christian holidays, uh, the same way that in,
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in all occultism, it's always a perversion of the true faith.
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Uh, you have the mass, you have the black mass, you have, uh, three, you know, 3 PM becomes
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The traditional, uh, by, by tradition, we believe that's when, when Christ died on the cross with
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You see this in movies, by the way, the exorcist, right?
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This, there's a lot of Catholic, obviously, right.
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There's the overt Catholic motifs of the rosary, the holy water, the crucifix, the young priest,
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If you know, if you know the background of 3 AM 3 PM itself, et cetera, like this, by
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the way, just a, another note on that, you know, that's one of the coolest things about
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growing up Catholic is that number one, you, you never actually have to have this discussion
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because you just know, uh, you know, inherently that that's what it is.
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But then also that, uh, it always means that you get the day after Halloween off.
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As long as you go to church, as long as you go to church.
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We get to go to mass, but we're required to go to mass because we come and we commemorate
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Now people say, well, what about the, in, in Eastern Europe, I don't know if you know
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this, but in Poland, um, all saints day and all souls day are massive, just absolutely
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And, uh, you would see this in Ukraine as well.
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Probably not, you know, this year, obviously, uh, that might be harder, but I actually, I take
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I guarantee you, you will see this on November 2nd in Ukraine, even in wartime that for the,
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in Western Ukraine, you still have a lot of Catholics.
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They go to the, they will go to the ceremony, the cemeteries and it's candles and it's flowers
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And there's sort of this idea that if you're, if you're not taking care of the graves of
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your ancestors, um, that you're, you're like, it's, it's, it's a shame, right?
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It's a familial shame that you are not, because the idea being that you have to honor your
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ancestors, which by the way, last time I checked, that wasn't a recommendation.
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That wasn't a suggestion from God honoring your, your answer.
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And this idea that, and then of course that hopefully it's someone will do that for you
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And I think, you know, people who aren't Catholic get that.
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And we do, and we have a distinction in Catholicism.
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We have this Greek term called doulia and, and then another term called latria and doulia
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Uh, you can say you can give it to the American flag, the cross, like we show respect and honor.
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And then the other term latria in Greek is to, is for God alone.
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So only the father, the son, and the Holy ghost get latria, the true adoration of worship
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Like you would respect, you know, in a monarchy, a monarch, we should even respect our president.
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Um, even though we're not thrilled with who he is, but I mean, we, we show, you know, you
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like you were in the Navy, you salute, you salute the rank, you salute the uniform, you
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You're not like someone can't come in like, why are you worshiping that general or that
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where you, you know, are you worshiping that admiral?
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And, and we believe that we have a duty, um, that we should honor those who were exemplars
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in following Jesus Christ, you know, St. Mary Magdalene, St. Paul, St. Luke, you know,
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uh, and all the way into our own time, St. Therese de Lisieux, all these great saints
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who, and maybe they were martyrs and maybe they were just in a, in their quiet way through
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I want to ask you another question, a serious question, maybe a spooky question.
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Are these spirits, these ghosts, these ghouls, these goblins, uh, this spiritual world that
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we're called to believe in when I watch a movie like the exorcist or a series like the
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conjuring, uh, it, they talk about things like this.
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When I read the Bible, when I read the gospel, Christ performs exorcisms, uh, including transporting,
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you know, demons like Legion into, into a herd of pigs at one point and they fall off
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And so am I supposed to just overlook those things?
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Am I supposed to think that these are just, well, you know, that was just an early form
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of mental illness and, you know, he was just, uh, he was curing them through a form of,
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of, you know, celestial therapy or something, or, or are these things real?
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And should we, as believers take these seriously?
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If you read the Bible, old and new Testament, there are fallen angels and that's what a
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So we, as Christians believe that before our world, our human world was created, that God
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made the angelic world and he gave them a test.
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And there's some speculation of, of what that is.
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And I talk about that in my book, but basically what happened is Satan said, non-servium, I
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Uh, there was another angel in our tradition who said, who is like God in Hebrew, Mika'el,
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who is like God in Mika'el is Michael, St. Michael, the archangel.
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And so he asked him that question, like, who can be God?
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You know, you can't say, you can't be God, you know?
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About a third of the angels fell and Satan and those third of angels became demons.
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And ever since then, they've been wanting to thwart and bother and bring us to hell.
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And you see that in the opening of the Bible, Adam and Eve, right?
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And in the book of Job, you see Satan comes before God and says, you know, I'm going to
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Let me start taking things away from him and he will curse you, God.
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And he allows Satan to start tempting and taking things away from Job.
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And for some reason in God's providence, he's decided to allow these fallen angels to remain
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around us, to influence us, for us to fight against.
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We have to be in a state of grace, you know, to have the sacraments, read the Bible, live
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holy lives, help the poor, alms, all these things.
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And then we find in the Bible that not only can the demons influence us, they can tempt
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So if you're if you're a demon or, you know, a fallen angel and you want to you want to wage
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What you could do is find God's creatures, find God's believers.
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And you could go and you could target them and you could target them and take them away
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from God because you can see that God is working with them and God wants them to come closer
00:29:07.400
to him because God wants them to attain heaven.
00:29:09.140
And so you can go and then try and work to thwart his plans.
00:29:14.620
And so they say, you know, they say every, you know, every challenge in every every time
00:29:20.900
we're faced with something like that, it's also that perennial question.
00:29:24.940
And you say, well, every, you know, every suffering is a chance for repentance.
00:29:33.740
But it it is something that I just say in my head over and over.
00:29:37.240
Every struggle, every suffering is a chance of repentance.
00:29:46.000
And people, when they get possessed, there's two reasons.
00:29:50.520
I just interviewed an exorcist yesterday, a real exorcist, Father Chad.
00:29:53.740
And we asked, I asked, how do people get possessed?
00:29:58.540
And the main way people get possessed is they go looking for it.
00:30:04.880
Yeah, they well, you can make a pact with the devil, which is not he says, not actually
00:30:09.540
a pact or a deal with the devil, because the devil has no legal rights because he's already
00:30:15.320
So his covenants and his his, you know, contracts are void.
00:30:19.740
But people who make these with them enter into partnerships with him or, you know, you
00:30:24.100
can do that explicit where you just say, I want to make a deal with you, Satan, or they
00:30:29.380
get involved in extremely sinful or demonic behavior, witchcraft, seances, Ouija boards,
00:30:41.240
you know, some of these dark arts, dark magic, these kind of things, paganism, pagan rituals,
00:30:48.460
sexual rituals, or really, really criminal activity, mass murdering, you know, these
00:30:56.200
these really rapes, child rapes, all these kind of things.
00:31:02.840
And the exorcists say that the demon, when you're possessed, he's not in your soul.
00:31:11.820
And when you read the accounts of Jesus exercising people, you see that the demons are in their
00:31:18.320
So that's the main reason why people get possessed is they open themselves up to the
00:31:24.300
So if someone says, hey, let's do a seance or, hey, let's get the Ouija board out or let's
00:31:29.340
You just run as far as you can from that, because if you want demons, that's how you
00:31:34.200
Now, you know, on that, it's not it's not what is it?
00:31:38.180
You know, I don't know who makes it the Ouija boards, Fisher Price or whatever.
00:31:40.880
It's not like the company's making a satanic instrument.
00:31:43.820
It's what you're doing with it that becomes satanic.
00:31:46.980
It's not like you go to the store and it's and it's Satan.
00:31:49.200
That being said, you can go to a spirit Halloween and find all sorts of occult paraphernalia there
00:31:57.980
And the point is, it's not that stuff doesn't come into your home and make you satanic.
00:32:02.600
But what it does is it opens your you're opening yourself up to it.
00:32:13.580
You're giving it license, giving Satan license or some of the lesser demons license to be
00:32:18.060
able to come and then partake, right, partake of your life, of your corpus.
00:32:25.080
And you do see this in, like you said, some of these, you know, even the original Exorcist
00:32:29.880
movie, there's this idea of the struggle within the young girl that she's which, by the
00:32:34.760
way, people don't realize that's based on a true story.
00:32:36.780
Um, you know, some of the more theatrical elements were added short walking on the ceiling and
00:32:41.700
all, but the, you know, speaking in tongues and the lesions and, um, knowing, knowing information
00:32:48.500
about the people that she's talking to that, you know, you couldn't possibly know, um, saying
00:32:54.180
I'm speaking with your mother, knowing the mother's name, speak all of that goes back.
00:32:58.920
Sometimes they speak Latin, Greek, Hebrew, ancient languages that, that a person wouldn't
00:33:08.200
That's like, okay, there's something in this person.
00:33:10.660
So when you do this occult stuff, you're doing something spiritual and you're not doing it
00:33:14.880
with God and his angels, you're doing it with the underworld and that opens you up and it's
00:33:20.120
But the other way you can be possessed, and this is kind of scary to think about is sometimes
00:33:28.180
Um, God allows demons to come into their lives and, uh, they're usually, well, almost always
00:33:34.640
victorious and the exorcist yesterday told me a story of a very holy nun who is in, I think
00:33:40.820
in Bavaria, uh, one of the holiest nuns in the region.
00:33:43.820
And she was possessed and the exorcist came and she said that it was revealed that because
00:33:51.380
of a sin that had taken root in the area, God had allowed this sign to happen to get
00:33:59.420
And he says, divorce, people are turning to divorce.
00:34:02.660
And so once they knew that he did the exorcism and the demon came right out and then the nun
00:34:07.660
You know, like the supernatural thing that God wanted.
00:34:10.060
So sometimes you can be very holy and not do anything wicked.
00:34:14.360
Just like in the story of Job and the Bible, he was a very holy man.
00:34:18.620
Obviously there's no, there's no rules for, for God.
00:34:20.920
But if God decides to write something, it's, you know, he's in.
00:34:25.320
But, but he said almost every single time you're dealing with someone who's possessed, uh, there
00:34:30.120
is some sort of, of magical dark art, wicked occult practice that has happened.
00:34:41.140
And, uh, they always, they always do a triage to make sure, you know, this is not some kind
00:34:46.440
of mental illness and they want to confirm that there's something preternatural, spiritual
00:34:56.180
And once they have that and get approval, they do an exorcism and an exorcism is no joke.
00:35:02.500
And, and by the way, there's, there's no, you're, you're sanctioned exorcisms are done by priests,
00:35:10.600
I mean, you can pray for the person and you can, you can hold whatever you want to do,
00:35:15.640
pray there and you should, you should be praying for the person, obviously.
00:35:18.500
But you know, the idea that you're going to be performing this outside, I mean, that's
00:35:21.400
like, that's like saying, you know, you're, you're, you're a member of the lady and you're
00:35:25.400
going to go perform open heart surgery on somebody.
00:35:29.840
Or I'm, you know, you're just a lay person and I'm going to go like do a seal team six
00:35:39.300
And there's a lot that goes into it, uh, you know, rituals and preparation and you, you open
00:35:47.640
If, if you, if a lay person or someone, even a priest, who's not an exorcist, let me emphasize
00:35:52.840
Even a priest, who's not an exorcist, who tries to do one, he can get retribution and
00:35:59.920
So you have to be properly, you know, appointed certified in order to do it.
00:36:10.260
I've read, I've read a lot of the work of, uh, father Amworth, um, watch his videos quite
00:36:18.700
He was someone who's been very public about this.
00:36:21.560
And at one point he actually made a video and we're seeing the break that you haven't
00:36:25.800
So you got to go watch this now when you're done, that he allowed the director of the
00:36:29.500
original exorcist movie to actually film an exorcism in Italy that he was performing.
00:36:37.060
Um, it was this, this, uh, Italian to the mother, young mother.
00:36:41.320
And, uh, you hear the speaking in tongues, you see the, the sort of contortions that the
00:36:47.700
body is doing and you you're able to watch this.
00:36:52.260
It's the director, some members of her family, no camera crew, just him, single camera in
00:37:01.040
I've never been to one, but I've, I've heard, I've spoken to exorcist priests who have done
00:37:05.320
them and, um, and they, it's not just like you come in and, uh, five minutes it's over.
00:37:17.040
It's you, you know, you, you don't just go in once and then it's done.
00:37:21.220
Cause at the end of the day, um, and correct me if I have this wrong and we're coming up on a
00:37:25.200
break here, but you, it's, it's not just that you're performing the, the exorcism because that
00:37:36.120
And that person has to repent for that, which they, that sin they committed there, uh, whatever
00:37:43.980
they let in, they have to repent for their actions and then the exorcism will begin to
00:37:53.500
And the exorcist I spoke to yesterday says, look, uh, you have to, he gives him a whole
00:37:58.700
thing, list of things they need to do before he'll even begin the exorcisms.
00:38:04.000
We've been talking about the Christian history of Halloween.
00:38:08.780
The Christian history before the pagans had anything to do with it, which they never did.
00:38:12.960
And before the occultists tried to come in, pervert it, take it away and steal it as they
00:38:17.780
do to all things Christian, you know, and, and, and actually Dr. Marshall, we were talking
00:38:22.940
And I think we should say this on air as well, though, that, uh, the original book of Dracula,
00:38:27.900
The original book of Dracula, we said the movie, the exorcist obviously has a lot of Catholic
00:38:32.660
motifs, but the original book of Dracula, it, it is so much more, uh, Christian based
00:38:39.640
that I don't think people realize where essentially it is, it is the family of Dracul has made this
00:38:45.220
deal with the devil, just like you were talking about.
00:38:47.260
And the idea is that he's been possessed by Satan.
00:38:50.680
Um, he has to drink the blood of the living in a perversion of drinking the blood of the
00:38:58.140
So it keeps him undead as opposed to dead and then achieving, uh, apotheosis to coming to
00:39:04.240
And then, um, this, this, this sense that this is also why, you know, crucifixes and holy
00:39:12.200
So some of it has translated into the movies, but not quite.
00:39:16.680
I mean, it's perfect segue into the, the book of revelation, the apocalypse, because in
00:39:20.680
the book of revelation, Satan is called the dragon.
00:39:24.260
And in Greek it's Draco and in Latin Draco, where you get Dracula, Dracula means little
00:39:30.140
So, so we're literally, you know, Dracula is the little dragon, the little Satan, because
00:39:38.020
And he's, he's using all, if you read the novel, by the way, do yourself a favor and
00:39:46.920
I keep on Amazon or wherever you want to get books.
00:39:50.680
And as you read it, especially if you're a Catholic, you'll see all this Christian sort
00:39:55.160
of black mirror, you know, analogy that's towards the, that's bent towards the demonic
00:40:03.760
He's talking the Eucharistic language of eating the flesh of the body and blood of Jesus Christ,
00:40:09.680
as in the Lord's supper, the Eucharist, all this sort of Christian theology is inverted
00:40:15.880
and perverted by Dracula, the little dragon, Satan himself.
00:40:22.980
As you read the novel, you begin to realize that he, he's in need of an exorcism.
00:40:27.600
And what he's doing is he's, he's trying to have this Eucharist on other human beings.
00:40:32.800
He's eating off of them, uh, in order to preserve his life.
00:40:37.220
And we know that Jesus says, unless you eat my flesh and drink my blood, you have no life
00:40:44.980
And then Dracula has completely subverted it in a satanic ritual.
00:40:51.600
And even the whole idea of virgins and consecrated virgins in relationship to nuns and all these
00:40:57.400
things are going on in Dracula that are, it's very obvious once you kind of just say it to
00:41:02.860
And then when you read the actual novel, you realize, oh, well it was overt in the novel
00:41:07.020
and it's just been through Hollywood's lens that they've, they've, you know, diluted all
00:41:12.640
Uh, and it takes place of course in Transylvania, which is kind of Romania ish area with some
00:41:18.920
kind of some interesting Christian, uh, motifs in the background there.
00:41:23.000
Yeah, it's a, it's a fantastic story and it kind of just, you know, shows a perversion
00:41:29.060
of what true Christianity is and how Christ is our life and, and how we're incorporated
00:41:39.180
And I think, you know, our, our culture now is kind of the same thing.
00:41:42.180
People pray on other people to perpetuate, uh, their lifestyle, their life.
00:41:51.060
And so, I mean, my, my, my final point on that is just, you know, if you're going to
00:41:54.920
celebrate Halloween, celebrate, you know, have fun with your kids, go out, have a good
00:41:59.180
time, but, but also don't forget, don't forget the original part of it, right?
00:42:03.720
Don't forget the, the origin of this, the martyrs, the holy martyrs, the holy saints, uh,
00:42:10.440
understand the history and the, and, and the true rich tradition that you're actually taking
00:42:16.920
part in by celebrating, not just Halloween, right?
00:42:21.080
If you're going to celebrate Halloween, don't just celebrate Halloween, but also celebrate
00:42:27.120
So now you're completing what's called the hallow tide.
00:42:29.940
But what was interesting is that you, you mentioned as well, though, that, that all
00:42:34.860
saints is that it's a holy day of obligation, high holy day for Catholics, but the reading
00:42:40.480
on all saints day is always from the book of the apocalypse, also known as the book of
00:42:51.620
Well, when you read the apocalypse, the book of revelation, uh, as in my new book, antichrist
00:42:58.480
and apocalypse, there is, there are sevens, there's a seven, seven churches, seven seals,
00:43:09.380
It just starts cycling, literally twirling around in the book of the apocalypse.
00:43:13.560
And as you, as you go through it, you realize that there's this very strong harvest theme in
00:43:21.620
And this goes back to the gospels where Christ says, you know, the harvest is plentiful, but
00:43:26.040
the laborers few, the angels will come and collect the harvest.
00:43:29.520
I mean, there's all these parables that have to do with harvesting, right?
00:43:38.040
He's even depicted as having the sickle and reaching the sickle down into the earth and
00:43:43.500
So this whole idea that he is the kind of this great farmer.
00:44:00.040
So he is in a way cultivating a garden, but is it just like grapes and grain?
00:44:05.480
Well, in the Eucharist, it is that, but it transubstantiates in his body and blood.
00:44:08.920
And somehow it, it brings in this harvest of souls.
00:44:11.840
And so on all saints day, traditionally we read from the book of the apocalypse and it's
00:44:20.320
And it's the reading from, from revelation chapter seven, where the angel comes and it
00:44:26.720
marks on the forehead with the sign of the towel, which is a cross on all the faithful
00:44:34.820
And it marks them and denotes them that they are to be harvested for Jesus Christ.
00:44:40.780
And that's the beautiful imagery in the book of revelation for all saints day is that we
00:44:46.260
have been marked on our heads with the sign of the cross and baptism.
00:44:52.460
And then in the Catholic tradition, the priest also puts chrism on our heads and marks us
00:44:58.020
with the sign of the cross, the seal of the, of the cross of Jesus Christ and tells us
00:45:03.440
to, to preserve this baptism until the day of our death.
00:45:11.180
This is why eventually I think all saints day was moved to November 1st because it fits
00:45:16.140
with this apocalyptic book of revelation harvest theme, because this, that's the time of the
00:45:22.620
harvest, you know, that final fall harvest of bringing in everything before it turns winter.
00:45:26.960
Uh, so yeah, there's all these things, by the way, is obviously just as a normal fall
00:45:35.700
The fact that it's becoming, you know, fall and autumn and we're collecting the crops,
00:45:42.520
You know, that's again, part of God's creation.
00:45:45.060
Uh, but there's no, there's no direct, and by the way, if you, if you end up for anyone
00:45:49.160
who ends up reading that article that I hope you do, it points out that even, even by the
00:45:53.540
way, if you go into the Irish harvest festival, uh, in, in the ancient times of sowing, there
00:45:59.080
was no connection to paganism whatsoever, just a harvest festival.
00:46:03.920
I mean, you bring in a bunch of grain and you have tons of food and your work is all
00:46:08.440
You're going to eat great food and bake some pies and let the kids eat the apples and,
00:46:17.500
And, and that's kind of part of it is, is it celebrating as we read in the book of revelation,
00:46:22.220
you know, that Christ has marked us and he is coming back for us.
00:46:27.240
He has, we're special to him and he wants to bring us into a storehouse, which is heaven.
00:46:37.000
It, we, we look to those who already made it, you know, it's kind of like if you're,
00:46:41.520
you know, you're overcoming alcoholism or drugs or a sex addiction meeting and knowing
00:46:47.000
people who have been successful in that journey inspires you like, okay, I can do it.
00:46:53.940
I can go one more day when I say, you know, I'm, I'm 17 years sober.
00:46:59.520
Um, I try not to make, I try not to, you know, that's like bragging it's, it's, but,
00:47:04.080
but I, I try to mention that every once in a while.
00:47:07.000
Uh, we just, we just had that, you know, it's just a couple of, uh, what, two, three
00:47:12.780
And I try to mention that I try to mention that, you know, often it's not like, uh, oh,
00:47:18.840
It's, it's a message to anybody that is struggling out there that, Hey, 17 years, boom.
00:47:25.320
Didn't, didn't think I could do 17 years, but here I am.
00:47:29.100
And, and that's, that, that is just an analogy to where we look in this lab.
00:47:36.800
Is it really worth going to church every Sunday and, you know, praying every day and this family.
00:47:42.060
And then you look at the saints and you're like, they did it.
00:47:47.260
And one day, one day though, when, when we realized that, you know, go, uh, had a priest
00:47:54.860
once who said, you know, the best place to count your money is in the graveyard, best
00:47:58.100
place to check your bank account, you know, that, that this is, this is a, you know, this
00:48:04.840
This is this, this reality that we're in, whatever it truly is, right.
00:48:14.960
And this is, you know, so your answer to the test will take place there, not here.
00:48:20.840
And you're gonna be there a whole lot longer than you are here.
00:48:26.720
Dr. Taylor Marshall, the new book, Antichrist Apocalypse available everywhere that books
00:48:34.460
Um, we're definitely going to have to order some for it.
00:48:36.360
Cause everyone, I'm in every, all the producers asking me for a copy now.
00:48:42.800
Well, you know, everything creepy, the book of revelation has a lot of creepy, scary,
00:48:49.700
And all of those things are there just like the demonic, just like death, just like all
00:48:53.960
these things we're talking about as we get close to Halloween, all of that there is to
00:48:58.420
inspire us to have hope and confidence that Christ conquered death.
00:49:04.880
All these things that scare us, he's conquered and we have hope in him.
00:49:09.040
And that's the message of all saints be a saint memento Mori memento Mori memento Mori
00:49:22.440
Ladies and gentlemen, as always, you have my permission to lay ashore.