Human Events Daily with Jack Posobiec - December 25, 2021


HUMAN EVENTS CHRISTMAS SPECIAL： INTERVIEW WITH TANYA TAY POSOBIEC


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On this episode of Human Events Daily, we are joined by my wife Tanya Tay to talk about Christmas. We talk about how she grew up in the 80s and early 90s in Sweden and how she and her husband started their careers in the entertainment industry.

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00:00:00.000 So, we've been recording these episodes for Human Events Daily and really taking time over this Christmas week to step back and talk about what matters, what Christmas means to us, what the new year means to us.
00:00:17.640 And I knew that I wanted to do an episode on Christmas itself, and I couldn't think of anybody that I wanted to have on the Christmas episode more than my wife, the lovely and beautiful Tanya Tay.
00:00:33.680 Thank you, dear.
00:00:34.380 Who, you know, and it's amazing, like, think about this. Here we are. We are recording this at the Turning Point Studios. We're in the podcast booth, this beautiful, beautiful studio that Turning Point has. And this is not how we started out doing, you know, shows like this. How was it when we started?
00:00:52.680 Not at all. I remember just dragging you to the country concerts in the early days. Remember that time?
00:01:02.740 But then what we did used to do on the Periscope. Remember, we would do Periscopes together, but that wasn't with, you know, the nice microphones and the lights and the beautiful video background and all. That was literally just like a phone in the spare bedroom. And it was just me and you talking.
00:01:23.160 And often just on the go. I remember all the places we would go visit and you just turn it on without even giving me a notice. It's like, oh, we're on air.
00:01:32.840 I might give you like a 30 second hammer. Hey, let's go live. 0.99
00:01:35.980 No, you did not.
00:01:38.040 OK, maybe like three seconds.
00:01:39.060 But we used to do. And I remember and what people actually don't know is that when we when I very first started, when I was doing Rebel videos for Rebel,
00:01:48.740 that it was you that was behind the camera that was in our spare bedroom, we're in our old house where you were turning the lights on, press and record on the camera.
00:02:00.740 I was your very first producer.
00:02:02.100 My very first producer. Yeah.
00:02:03.840 And my very first field producer where let's see if you let's see.
00:02:07.360 Do you remember where the very first place we went together to do a documentary was?
00:02:14.620 Yes, I do. It was Malmo, Malmo, Sweden.
00:02:20.420 We went to the no go zones and I said, hey, sweetheart.
00:02:26.140 I remember we were just dating at the time, right? We weren't engaged yet.
00:02:28.720 You're right. Not yet.
00:02:29.780 I think it was a couple months before we got engaged.
00:02:31.780 And I said, I said, sweetheart, how would you like to go to Europe?
00:02:36.500 And you're like, where in Europe? And you go, I get so excited.
00:02:39.680 Yeah. Do you want to go to Sweden?
00:02:41.680 And then and then and then what happened?
00:02:44.620 Yeah. And then we got to the no go zone with the no go zones of Sweden with everybody having a cover on their head but me.
00:02:56.280 And then suddenly I looked around and realized that it's a little bit different over here.
00:03:01.580 Not exactly. But we did.
00:03:04.400 But I get my camera on.
00:03:05.740 In my credit. In my credit.
00:03:07.260 To make sure we get all the live video and shots to show it to everybody.
00:03:10.760 We did go to we did go to we kept going to that train station.
00:03:16.840 You remember because we had the smorgasbord smorgasbord and we had and you fell in love with the Swedish open face sandwiches.
00:03:25.260 Because I remember that because that is all seafood in Malmo and you are a seafood fan.
00:03:30.220 Yes.
00:03:32.240 Got a few stories going back.
00:03:34.440 And here we are now with two little boys talking about Christmas.
00:03:40.900 And well, so, yeah.
00:03:42.280 And that's that's really what, you know, coming into it from a Christmas, you know, and we're going to release this on Christmas Day.
00:03:49.100 So if people are listening to it on Christmas Day, Merry Christmas, that is what we say, of course, Merry Christmas to everybody from us, the Posobics, to all of you.
00:03:57.200 We hope you're having a great day, having a Merry Christmas.
00:03:59.860 Maybe you're on your way to mass or church and or maybe you just finished it.
00:04:03.560 Maybe you finished wrapping up the presents.
00:04:05.000 You're just driving somewhere.
00:04:06.200 And I thought, you know, wrapping up the presents.
00:04:07.960 Unwrapping the presents.
00:04:09.740 Hopefully it's unwrapping.
00:04:11.100 Well, some people are like some people are still wrapping them on Christmas morning.
00:04:14.760 We don't have to name any names, but I may have gotten up a little bit early on a few Christmas mornings to do that.
00:04:21.960 But I wanted to talk about how and for people who don't realize this is that Christmas in Eastern Europe isn't as big as it is in the West.
00:04:34.240 So for you growing up, Christmas wasn't so much of this of the holiday with the tree and the lights and the presents and all of it.
00:04:42.220 But one thing that you have said is that growing up in Eastern Europe and for people who don't know, and I think everybody knows this, but, you know, there's always that one person.
00:04:49.600 So I always say it.
00:04:50.360 So Tanya was born in the Soviet Union.
00:04:53.520 She grew up there.
00:04:54.440 Then the country, of course, Soviet Union fell apart when she was very little.
00:04:57.840 Then it was instituted as the breakaway Republic of Belarus.
00:05:01.600 It still is the Republic of Belarus to this day.
00:05:03.920 And I think, what, 16 years now since you immigrated?
00:05:08.240 Yes.
00:05:09.000 Gone in 16 years.
00:05:09.780 In 16 years.
00:05:10.260 So, but growing up, what was, and also, by the way, you know, since we're talking about this, you know, so I grew up Catholic, but you grew up Orthodox.
00:05:19.560 So for in Orthodox Christmas, it's not December 25th, is it?
00:05:24.480 It's not.
00:05:26.040 So to everybody who is from Eastern Europe, it's not Christmas that is to the same scale or level.
00:05:36.020 It's actually first comes New Year's and New Year's Eve and then New Year's Day is huge.
00:05:44.280 So the whole month of December, I remember just getting ready for New Year's, getting all excited, doing all the plays and shows in school.
00:05:57.180 And then dad would bring a tree around December 30th.
00:06:04.900 So it was not even, we were not talking about this huge celebration until very last few days of December.
00:06:12.780 And then maybe December 31st, we would put up the tree, do all the lights.
00:06:18.620 And then January 1st is a huge day when you would wake up in the early in the morning and open up all your gifts.
00:06:27.660 And that was the gift given.
00:06:29.940 Like the first of the year started with all the presents.
00:06:33.280 And so in Orthodox Christmas, so I want people to be clear about this, it's New Year's comes first and then Orthodox Christmas is January 6th.
00:06:42.260 Correct.
00:06:42.720 So one week after, you would have Orthodox Christmas. 0.85
00:06:48.740 And it has more of a religious connotation to it.
00:06:55.780 Most people would go to church.
00:06:58.780 Because you've already done tree and presents and all that.
00:07:01.440 Yeah, you had all the presents, you had all the unwrapping fun.
00:07:06.340 And then January 6th, the night of January 6th to the 7th is when all the Orthodox will celebrate the birth of Jesus Christ.
00:07:22.640 And then very often they would go to Overnight Mass.
00:07:27.340 I love Overnight Mass.
00:07:28.520 That's my favorite.
00:07:29.280 I did it one time.
00:07:32.520 I was only able to do it once.
00:07:34.180 It was a long night.
00:07:35.700 By the way, for people who don't know, Orthodox Mass is, I mean, especially at Christmas.
00:07:41.700 And I've done an Orthodox Easter. 0.59
00:07:44.240 And I remember Orthodox Easter service overnight was, when they say overnight, it's literally overnight.
00:07:49.660 This thing, it was like three hours.
00:07:51.940 Three hours?
00:07:52.960 More like five.
00:07:54.220 Wow.
00:07:55.080 Seriously.
00:07:55.520 It was until the sunrise.
00:07:58.420 So you go in from midnight?
00:08:00.540 You go in at midnight.
00:08:01.700 And you, for five, and just to give a little context, it's not your typical Catholic church where you have seats for everybody, where people can just sit on the bench or kneel.
00:08:14.180 So you are standing up.
00:08:16.120 There's no pews.
00:08:17.240 No pews, no chairs.
00:08:18.320 No.
00:08:18.860 For five hours overnight, you are standing, listening to the priest.
00:08:25.860 People do a lot of praying, of course.
00:08:29.480 And you're standing up.
00:08:31.040 And incense is everywhere.
00:08:33.640 You have so much incense, you actually think you're in heaven.
00:08:36.420 You actually think that you've made your way there.
00:08:38.620 Wow.
00:08:39.640 That's hardcore.
00:08:40.140 So five hours, how old were you when you did that?
00:08:42.860 I must have been 11 or 12.
00:08:46.680 I remember I asked my mom, because I've heard all my aunts always talk about it and how huge it was.
00:08:53.540 And one time I asked my mom if I could go, and we did.
00:08:59.040 Now, did she go with you? 0.96
00:09:00.540 She did go with me, yes.
00:09:02.000 So it was me and my mom.
00:09:02.660 Did your sister go?
00:09:04.100 No.
00:09:04.560 At the time, she was very little.
00:09:06.180 So just you and your mom?
00:09:07.000 Yes.
00:09:07.800 Oh, man.
00:09:08.780 Oh, man.
00:09:09.580 It was quite an experience.
00:09:10.680 Oh, man.
00:09:11.260 Five hours.
00:09:12.420 Hardcore.
00:09:13.600 Hardcore.
00:09:14.020 That's Christmas on hard mode, ladies and gentlemen.
00:09:16.700 And so, okay, we're not going to do that.
00:09:18.540 So, wait, wait.
00:09:19.200 So that means that if you went to an Orthodox mass for five hours, if I want to go to a Latin mass, that's only an hour and a half.
00:09:26.800 That's nothing.
00:09:27.420 That's nothing, then.
00:09:28.480 That's nothing.
00:09:29.240 If I want to do Vespers, if I want to do that midnight mass, then that's no big deal at all, is it?
00:09:33.900 Absolutely not.
00:09:34.440 All right.
00:09:35.020 Mark it down, folks.
00:09:35.960 Mark it down.
00:09:36.540 He just got me for a Latin mass.
00:09:38.000 Just got you.
00:09:38.760 Got you.
00:09:39.200 I say that to everybody.
00:09:40.820 If you're Catholic, I always say just go to Latin mass. 1.00
00:09:43.700 That's a big thing.
00:09:45.020 That is the traditional one.
00:09:46.520 That is the one you want to go to.
00:09:47.660 And honestly, the Latin mass and the Orthodox mass are pretty similar, right?
00:09:52.800 They are.
00:09:53.760 There is one of the things that is quite similar that I've noticed was that the priest is actually facing the altar.
00:10:05.060 So he's looking at the cross with Jesus Christ away from the crowd.
00:10:10.700 Right.
00:10:11.120 And so the way I look at it is.
00:10:13.280 Yeah.
00:10:13.740 The way I've always pictured it is, you know, it's the priest is facing Christ.
00:10:19.240 The priest is facing God the same way that everybody is facing it.
00:10:22.760 And so it's as opposed to the priest facing the people because you're not there for the people.
00:10:27.160 You're there for God.
00:10:27.820 And so it's a different way of looking at it.
00:10:30.200 And so it's something that I didn't quite understand until I started going myself.
00:10:33.880 And then I realized that, oh, wait, wait, it actually does give you a kind of a different connotation on things.
00:10:39.460 So that's something that, you know, that I like.
00:10:41.180 But we don't always go to Latin mass, to be clear.
00:10:44.260 We do sometimes very often.
00:10:45.680 We like to mix it up sometimes.
00:10:46.800 Go to our local parish and we really enjoy that.
00:10:50.140 But, you know, certain occasions, special occasions.
00:10:52.600 Oh, I love it.
00:10:53.300 Oh, I love it.
00:10:54.140 I love it so much.
00:10:55.440 Nomei Patre, et filii, et spiritu Sancti.
00:10:58.000 Amen.
00:10:59.040 And, but, you know, getting back to Christmas so that you're here in the U.S., you've been here 16 years.
00:11:05.160 What was it like, you know, kind of experiencing Western Christmas and, you know, sort of learning the more Western Christian Christmas traditions?
00:11:16.020 I remember how much I was impressed by Christmas.
00:11:21.680 The first, the very first Christmas, because late November, suddenly all the stores had all the Christmas lights and Santas and all the ads going on about.
00:11:35.280 And I was like, why?
00:11:36.920 It's like a month away.
00:11:38.660 Why is everybody already in a Christmas to somebody who had a Christmas tree in the house on December 31st?
00:11:44.940 So it was quite shocking to me.
00:11:47.200 But then I really got into the whole Christmas tunes.
00:11:50.920 And I remember started learning some of my first Christmas songs.
00:11:55.360 And to this day, I love turning my radio on while I'm driving with boys somewhere and making sure they hear all the tunes, because that's the spirit of Christmas.
00:12:05.580 I've always said that for Christians, by the way, like for 11 months of the year, the secularists are like kind of in control of the radio waves.
00:12:13.060 But then December, the Christians just dominate, just absolutely dominate the airspace with that Christian Christmas music. 1.00
00:12:21.180 And you're sure there's lots of secular songs out there.
00:12:23.600 But when you hear Away in a Manger, when you hear Oh, Holy Night, when you hear Little Drummer Boy, when you hear all these ones, I mean, it's come on.
00:12:33.700 That hits you in your heart.
00:12:36.260 And you feel Silent Night.
00:12:37.440 Actually, one thing.
00:12:39.720 And you just thought singing along.
00:12:41.320 One Christmas tradition for me that I always have is that, so my birthday is 10 days before Christmas.
00:12:49.920 And my mom always told me the story that, so here she was, you know, with a baby just 10 days before Christmas, 23 years old.
00:12:58.840 And she, you know, I was, I guess, you know, they're in the hospital, they're in Pennsylvania, and that I was, you know, just crying, baby crying, and that she started singing the first song she could think of that she sang Silent Night to me, and that she would sing that every night to me while we're, even before she brought me home.
00:13:18.620 And so for me, whenever I hear Silent Night, I always kind of, it always makes me think of my mom, and it always makes me think of that story, and just how special that is, and then how that sort of became a Christmas tradition for me personally, in addition to, you know, all the other longstanding Christmas traditions.
00:13:37.040 That's very beautiful.
00:13:38.940 I do have a story of my own.
00:13:40.680 And now here we are, where, and I guess people don't know, but, you know, here we are, that we had our second son, AJ, was born on December 3rd.
00:13:50.140 So I have two December birthdays, plus Christmas.
00:13:56.400 Very lucky girl.
00:13:57.120 So my Christmas story with our little boy is, I remember coming home from the hospital without AJ, our youngest son, and the first thing you went and did, you got a Christmas tree, and you did a great job with putting up all the lights, and you wanted us to feel like suddenly the anticipation is over,
00:14:24.360 and the actual celebration could begin, and the first few weeks, anybody who is a new mom will know they're the toughest, and one of my favorite things to do was when my little boy would make me up in the middle of the night, 2, 3 a.m., sometimes multiple times a day, I would just, I would turn on all the lights on the Christmas tree, and I would watch all the blinking,
00:14:50.500 and one of the traditions that we have, we always put an angel on top of our Christmas tree.
00:14:59.120 As is necessary and proper.
00:15:01.080 So I would sit there in the middle of the night with my little boy, with the Christmas lights on the tree, and the angel, and that just, a story I hope I will tell our little boy one day.
00:15:15.640 When he's a little older to remember that, that every night, and I remember, well, the reason I know is because I would wake up in the morning, and then I'd go to your Instagram stories, and I would see, because you would always put the time that you were up, here he is at 4 a.m., here he is at 5 a.m., next day it's 3 a.m., and it's 2 a.m., and that's like your little way of letting me know, just so you know, because I'm a pretty good sleeper, and no, but I've noticed this before.
00:15:43.080 I have noticed, I know, right, I know, well, that's because I sleep on MyPillow, with the delightful MyPillows of MyPillow.com promo code POSO, got it in, told you I was going to get it in, but, but, but, but, but that being said, it's, I've noticed, though, at times, like, I might be up working or something, and when I say working, I mean, like, trolling Twitter or whatever,
00:16:04.200 I've noticed that he can make, like, and even with, with Jack-Jack, with our older son, it was the same way, they can make the tiniest squeak, and you're immediately up, right, and it's like, and I'll turn over and look, I said, wait a minute, like, that was enough to wake you up.
00:16:21.700 That was not me, as a teenager, or even an adult, I was always such a sound sleeper.
00:16:29.300 Because you're usually a sound sleeper.
00:16:30.900 I kid you not, you could have a party in the room next door, and I would be a sound asleep, not a worry in the world.
00:16:37.540 It changed the day.
00:16:38.380 Oh, you weren't at the party?
00:16:39.600 You were there sleeping during the party?
00:16:41.400 Is that what it was?
00:16:42.020 We're not talking about that.
00:16:43.360 We're going to the Christmas traditions.
00:16:45.040 Whoa! 0.71
00:16:45.080 Oh, whoa!
00:16:46.720 So, that changed the minute I had our first son.
00:16:54.600 I kid you not, he would turn, and I would be wide awake.
00:16:59.740 Like, he'd turn just over in the bed.
00:17:01.420 He would just turn over in the bed.
00:17:02.640 He's good, he's best in it.
00:17:03.380 And it just, it amazed me, because I remember, when I was still carrying him, thinking, I was like, how am I going to hear him cry,
00:17:10.500 or how am I going to know that he needs something?
00:17:13.420 Oh, I knew.
00:17:15.620 And what did that feel like?
00:17:17.340 Does it, because I've seen you, like, I didn't think we were going to talk about this, but okay.
00:17:22.480 Because I've noticed, though, that when one of the boys is crying or upset or something, like, for me, it's like, okay, there's something I got to deal with.
00:17:33.940 There's a problem, you know, does he need to be clean?
00:17:36.500 Does he need to be fed?
00:17:37.500 Is he tired?
00:17:38.240 What is it?
00:17:38.740 But I don't have this kind of emotional, spiritual kind of resonance with that.
00:17:46.960 You know, to me, it's just, okay, there's a problem, we got to solve it, right?
00:17:49.780 But with you, it's different, isn't it?
00:17:52.600 I had no idea until I had them.
00:17:55.500 And just to give you a little perspective, the bond was building for nine months that I was carrying both of our boys.
00:18:03.980 So I guess that's something that, on a much deeper level, happens between a mother and a child.
00:18:11.540 But in some sense, it probably has a survival aspect to it because that's how that bond and that connection helps the little baby make it through in this world.
00:18:27.440 And the mom is the vessel that the baby uses to make it through. 0.99
00:18:33.360 But I had no idea.
00:18:35.520 I did not know.
00:18:36.820 And then suddenly this huge connection, it took my baby to make one squeaky sound or a little cry, and I would be a mama bear the second that happened.
00:18:49.600 No, I mean, it's, it's, there's this, this deep, emotional, spiritual, biological, physical, physiological, and metaphysical connection that, you know, between them and everybody knows that, right?
00:19:03.680 You kind of intuitively know, okay, the mother and child have a specific connection.
00:19:08.000 But when you see it, and for you, it's when you're experiencing it, it's just triggering and kicking off all of these things that you've always had inside you.
00:19:17.820 But now they're activated, right?
00:19:19.420 Now it's switched on.
00:19:20.280 You realize, oh, wait, this is like this deep, deep programming that you always had.
00:19:25.260 But now is suddenly because it needs to be used, that it's kicked on.
00:19:29.580 So how am I going to wake up?
00:19:30.960 Oh, guess what?
00:19:32.200 You're going to be up, right?
00:19:33.380 You're going to be up immediately.
00:19:34.680 And, and it's so amazing.
00:19:36.660 And I think it's such a blessing that God has, like, and he says this in the Bible, I will design them man and woman.
00:19:43.640 And this is something that just me as a guy looking at this, I know I don't have that.
00:19:48.940 Like, if you wake me up and say, hey, can you take care of him or something?
00:19:52.180 You know, that's one thing.
00:19:53.600 But I'm not, I don't have that sort of trigger mechanism, that alarm mechanism, that deep spiritual connection.
00:19:59.220 And talking, you know, going back to Christmas, that is Christmas, right?
00:20:03.800 It all started with a mother and her child, a mother saying yes to the most impossible question any woman's ever been asked in history.
00:20:16.560 And saying yes without reservation.
00:20:19.280 The yes, I will do this.
00:20:20.260 And yes, I will, as you say, like, as I will be the vessel for this.
00:20:23.260 And, and my son will grow and he will do amazing things.
00:20:28.680 And, you know, a teenager, right?
00:20:31.740 A young teenage mother to say, I'm going to do this and I'm going to raise my son.
00:20:38.600 And, and I think, you know, looking at Christmas and I, I mean, I love, right?
00:20:45.680 All the celebration of Christmas.
00:20:47.000 I love it.
00:20:48.020 But you always have to go back.
00:20:50.300 And we were just at the Christmas show at, at Dream City Church in, in Phoenix.
00:20:56.380 And they had, you know, this amazing show that we saw, but I loved the end of it and at the celebration.
00:21:03.240 And it said, for God so loved the world that he sent his son, not to condemn the world, but to save it.
00:21:14.960 Right.
00:21:15.480 And this, and this is the key, right?
00:21:17.500 Is that Christ comes as the savior of the world, because we know God understands that the world is going to be the way it is.
00:21:27.200 The world has human nature in it.
00:21:28.900 The world has challenges in it, has suffering.
00:21:31.760 It has sin in it.
00:21:32.540 Right.
00:21:33.900 But this is the way out that you have now been sent this, the, the savior, the king, the king of all kings, the king of the entire universe.
00:21:45.480 And brought in, not, you know, descending from a giant golden staircase with flowing robes and armies behind, you know.
00:21:55.340 But they do say, and, you know, of course brought in a manger in the most humble of beginnings that anyone's ever had or could possibly have.
00:22:05.980 And, you know, to me, when I think of the meaning of Christmas, it's, it's hope, right?
00:22:11.260 It's hope that you live your life this way, you follow him, you, you read the teachings of that king, you read the teachings of that Lord.
00:22:22.680 And it's a guideline that he gave us in the entire Bible, of course, is a guideline that we've been given, you know, to live your life.
00:22:32.020 And this is the entire point of Christmas, the entire point of why we celebrate, why we go through the motions every year.
00:22:37.900 And it, and even going through those motions gives you the same type of hope and the same type of joy.
00:22:45.600 And it's amazing that we have that.
00:22:47.440 But it also is a tradition that, like you said, it was handed down from your parents, it was handed down to me from my parents, we still have some of the old VHS videos of my dad and my mom and me and, you know, pushing me around in a little wagon in front of our tree and in Norristown, Pennsylvania, and, you know, giving me a little fire truck and everything and seeing how I was.
00:23:11.540 And my dad, it's very early on this, but he, he was always filming whenever we around doing family stuff and he had the camcorder going or he put it up on the tripod.
00:23:19.380 And I love having those.
00:23:20.820 I just, I could sit and watch those forever.
00:23:22.420 I was always so jealous because my family did not really have the means to do that, but I remember.
00:23:29.220 Well, the Soviet Union didn't really have VHS and VHRs and everything.
00:23:33.000 Seeing all your childhood albums and seeing all the videos, it was, it was so precious.
00:23:41.520 Not to get incredibly political, but because, you know, we, we talk about, you know, politics and communism and freedom, et cetera, et cetera, but, you know, humanize it, right?
00:23:51.240 Humanize it.
00:23:52.140 That's, this is a great point to, we have to point it out.
00:23:55.580 How many photos do you have of yourself as a child?
00:23:59.380 I can, uh, count them pretty much, um, on the 10 fingers of my hands.
00:24:07.760 You have about 10 photos?
00:24:09.240 About, yes.
00:24:10.240 When I grew older, obviously the pictures got more, but, uh, from, from birth until about age 10, definitely under 10 pictures.
00:24:22.260 So like one a year?
00:24:23.440 Yeah.
00:24:24.400 And now how many pictures are our kids going to have?
00:24:27.900 Um, let's not talk about that.
00:24:29.680 Let's say my iPhone crashed a couple of times because of the number of pictures.
00:24:32.260 Her iPhone is literally crashing because all it is is full of pictures of the kids.
00:24:37.260 So guilty.
00:24:37.560 So you're making up for lost time.
00:24:39.040 So guilty.
00:24:39.740 You're making up for lost time.
00:24:40.720 No, no, that's good.
00:24:41.640 And that's what we should have.
00:24:42.620 But so, you know, let's talk Christmas traditions.
00:24:46.720 What are some of your favorite things to do in December?
00:24:49.660 Because I remember you sent me something, I think on Thanksgiving, right?
00:24:55.320 Is when you sent it to me.
00:24:56.300 Yes, I did.
00:24:56.980 And you said it was a, it was a, a December to-do list.
00:25:00.800 Is that right?
00:25:01.360 That's correct.
00:25:01.980 So what was on your December?
00:25:04.360 And she never does this, by the way, you know, they call them like the honey do lists.
00:25:07.920 And she's a, this is a Christmas, well, a December to-do list of all Christmas traditions.
00:25:12.900 And you said, we're going to do every single one of them.
00:25:15.440 And so what was on the list?
00:25:16.660 So it was a very good collection of the main points of the celebration of Christmas.
00:25:29.900 So I thought, and I really wanted to show our boys this beautiful season of celebrating Jesus Christ
00:25:40.800 and doing all the fun family activities together.
00:25:44.940 So what, what were some of the, what were some of your favorite ones?
00:25:47.240 Some of the things on it was, um, there was a donated toy.
00:25:52.100 Donated toy.
00:25:52.820 Yeah.
00:25:53.400 Uh, it had, um, uh, nativity scene.
00:25:58.700 Oh, wait, we have to tell the thing with Jack-Jack and the nativity scene because he got so upset.
00:26:04.320 We have a very beautiful nativity scene that, uh, we got from, uh, your parents.
00:26:10.360 It was actually my grandmother's.
00:26:11.440 Oh, your grandmother's.
00:26:11.700 Yeah, it was hers.
00:26:12.800 Then she gave it to them.
00:26:13.760 Then they gave it to us.
00:26:14.500 Yeah.
00:26:14.940 That's very beautiful.
00:26:16.520 So we, we had it all set up as we were decorating the house, got the tree together.
00:26:21.540 And then we finally, um, put out the, um, nativity scene with, uh, Joseph, Mary, we got the sheep, we got the donkey.
00:26:30.540 And then Jack-Jack runs to us almost in tears.
00:26:35.060 And he goes, mama, mama, mama, mama, mama, mama, mama, mama, where's baby Jesus, where, where?
00:26:42.460 So we took our time and explained to him that, um, um, Jesus's birthday will be on December 25th.
00:26:50.940 And Jesus is not here yet, which, which still made him very upset.
00:26:55.460 He was a little perplexed about that.
00:26:56.580 If you ever try to reason with a three-year-old, a three-year-old, a three-year-old, a three-year-old, yeah.
00:27:01.360 It's, uh, it's quite impossible.
00:27:02.940 He doesn't have a good, like, time, you know, conception yet.
00:27:05.240 So when I was saying that, no, he's not here, but he's coming, and he's like, is he coming now?
00:27:10.560 Is he coming soon?
00:27:12.060 Is he coming here?
00:27:13.340 Well, yeah.
00:27:14.000 When is he coming?
00:27:14.820 Of course, he is coming.
00:27:16.120 But no, and he needs to be now, because, because we give, we actually have the, um, and I know
00:27:20.520 I do the ad all the time with, uh, the Bible pillows, but he actually does have the nativity
00:27:24.900 scene Bible pillow.
00:27:26.100 And so one thing that we do before every night, what is, what does he say every night before
00:27:30.620 bed?
00:27:31.920 He's looking for his pillow.
00:27:33.260 And then we always say our father and, um, you know, but I mean about the pillow.
00:27:41.040 Oh, he, uh, he goes, there's Jesus.
00:27:44.480 Uh, I'm sorry.
00:27:45.300 He says there's Joseph, Mary, baby Jesus, and sheep and sheep.
00:27:52.160 Good night, Joseph.
00:27:53.480 Good night, Mary.
00:27:54.140 Good night, baby Jesus.
00:27:55.140 Good night, sheep.
00:27:56.120 And so for him, I think, you know, missing that integral part, obviously the integral part
00:28:01.460 of the Holy family, uh, baby Jesus was not, was not, he was pretty upset with that.
00:28:05.400 But I think, um, so we did, we got the Christmas tree, we put it up.
00:28:09.500 And what was one of the reasons, because man, you were like, I remember it was right
00:28:14.780 around Thanksgiving and you said, you said, well, we still have some December left, so
00:28:19.900 it counts.
00:28:20.680 But you said, I want that tree up as soon as possible.
00:28:23.080 And I said, ah, we'll go there on my birthday.
00:28:25.200 We'll go later, 15th, a little closer to Christmas.
00:28:27.500 You were like, you were like, no.
00:28:28.800 So part of the reasons I told you that, uh, about my special story with, uh, AJ, uh, that
00:28:37.080 to me, the Christmas tree is associated with the, with the joy and, um, the celebration
00:28:44.940 of, um, Jesus and the whole Christmas spirit.
00:28:48.780 So I wanted it to start as soon as possible.
00:28:53.480 I didn't want to wait anymore.
00:28:55.320 Well, I think, no, and that does make sense.
00:28:57.120 So AJ's birthday is now, it's December 3rd.
00:28:59.740 So I think that going forward one, and I guess it officially started last year and this is
00:29:06.380 the way traditions start, right?
00:29:07.720 Traditions start, you know, organically and things happen in a certain way.
00:29:13.300 And then you decide to repeat them because you liked it.
00:29:16.060 Um, and so this year, I remember you saying that to me and I, you know, totally blew right 0.87
00:29:20.560 past it.
00:29:21.160 Right.
00:29:21.380 Cause I'm like, oh, and are we going to be around?
00:29:23.880 Where am I speaking this weekend?
00:29:25.640 Or am I in Nashville?
00:29:26.940 Am I in Denver?
00:29:27.800 I'm in LA or whatever.
00:29:28.960 And you're like, I want to treat.
00:29:30.200 And, and you said to me, you said, I want the tree up because I want the tree up before
00:29:34.320 AJ's birthday.
00:29:35.440 And so I said that the next tradition that the Poso family, the Posobic family, 1.00
00:29:43.300 is going to have is that every year the tree will be up by AJ's birthday and, and tell
00:29:49.640 everybody from, you know, in my defense or my defense, but to my credit, what did we,
00:29:54.720 because we were at church when you said that to me.
00:29:56.720 And then what was the very first thing that I did after you said that?
00:30:00.840 We left the church and we drove right to the Christmas market and we picked up a Christmas
00:30:06.640 tree.
00:30:07.140 Boom.
00:30:07.880 You see that young Kings out there.
00:30:09.920 That's how it's done.
00:30:11.380 When your woman says she won something and it's reasonable, right? 1.00
00:30:15.660 Now this is key.
00:30:16.480 This is key because a lot of people out there will say, you'll hear this phrase, happy wife,
00:30:19.760 happy life.
00:30:20.220 I reject it.
00:30:21.060 I reject it completely.
00:30:22.860 Because happy wife, happy life.
00:30:25.560 Me, you know, a lot of guys will hear that and they, and they think that means say yes to
00:30:29.240 everything.
00:30:30.040 Yeah.
00:30:30.340 It's total appeasement.
00:30:31.800 You can't, you know, negotiate.
00:30:33.720 There's no back and forth.
00:30:34.700 You got to have the back and forth.
00:30:36.000 You got, or you're not going to have a healthy relationship and I'm, and I'm guys, I'm telling
00:30:40.480 you every once in a while, you got to say, eh, not right now.
00:30:44.500 Uh, yeah, that's not going to work.
00:30:45.880 Um, but when you do have the occasion to be able to say yes, do so and do so swiftly and
00:30:54.980 quickly.
00:30:56.760 And she will be so happy that you did all that.
00:31:00.660 The, you'll have money in the bank.
00:31:01.920 And then when you're doing a podcast on Christmas with her, you can remind her that you did that
00:31:06.680 and then you can record it and have turning point USA, put it out so that everyone in
00:31:12.260 the world can know what a great guy you are.
00:31:16.560 Even, even in that instance, he got his way.
00:31:22.040 No, I mean, look, it was, it was, you know, you want, you're like, I wanted a Christmas tree
00:31:25.960 and it sounded like you wanted it now.
00:31:28.220 And I think I actually was leaving the next day.
00:31:31.360 Um, I was doing, um, I think I was flying somewhere or another and I said, let's just get
00:31:36.160 it.
00:31:36.680 Let's just get it then.
00:31:37.580 You know, we have some time today and you know, the, the Christmas tree market was pretty
00:31:40.960 close.
00:31:41.300 So we just went and picked it up.
00:31:42.720 Going back to the list.
00:31:44.020 Uh, there were some really good ones.
00:31:46.760 I'm pretty sure everybody with the, with the little kids, uh, does it.
00:31:50.620 But, uh, one of my favorites was, um, singing, uh, Christmas carols and then, uh, ice skating,
00:31:59.840 going ice skating.
00:32:01.720 Then, uh, obviously a picture was Santa.
00:32:05.040 Oh, yes.
00:32:06.080 That's what else?
00:32:08.640 Oh, uh, baked gingerbread cookies.
00:32:11.680 Decorate them.
00:32:12.760 Done.
00:32:12.820 And make the gingerbread house. 0.98
00:32:14.400 Done.
00:32:15.260 Done that.
00:32:17.940 Trying to, oh, uh, the ugly Christmas sweater party.
00:32:22.020 We had to do that.
00:32:23.760 Uh, it's coming up.
00:32:24.980 We, I mean, we have worn the ugly sweaters.
00:32:27.100 We didn't actually go to the party though.
00:32:28.820 So I think, I think we could say that one's done.
00:32:30.860 I think we could say that one's done.
00:32:31.920 And then baking some marshmallows.
00:32:33.540 Baking marshmallows.
00:32:34.500 Oh yeah.
00:32:35.080 Got to.
00:32:35.560 Roasting the fire, you know.
00:32:36.860 And so it's, it's, it's simple stuff.
00:32:39.980 Simple.
00:32:40.260 But what I love about those lists is that you could make it a fun family time.
00:32:50.260 Um, I don't want my boys growing up thinking that Christmas is just about unwrapping a bunch
00:32:57.440 of presents under the tree, getting all the latest, uh, budgets that's on the market or the new
00:33:05.280 phone or tablet or whatever else there will be.
00:33:08.360 Maybe some bitcoins by the time he, he will start understanding, you know, the gifting and stuff.
00:33:16.600 I want them to remember those special moments together with mom and dad and, uh, going and
00:33:23.040 doing those fun, uh, Christmas activities, looking at the Christmas lights, singing Christmas
00:33:29.140 carols, and then decorating the tree together.
00:33:33.000 Um, talking about what we're grateful for going to the church and talking about the baby and how
00:33:41.220 he was the reason for the holiday, not just all the gifts and stuff.
00:33:45.700 And people, I don't know if everybody knows this.
00:33:47.360 We actually did our honeymoon in Israel.
00:33:50.920 We, and we went to Bethlehem, we went to Jerusalem, we went to the Dead Sea, we did the whole stations
00:33:57.540 of the cross.
00:33:58.360 And for me, you know, being able to actually walk and we did the Garden of Gethsemane, um,
00:34:09.020 being able to actually, and it's all very close.
00:34:11.300 It's not actually that big at all.
00:34:12.480 We went to the, uh, room with the Last Supper.
00:34:14.360 We went to the room with the Last Supper.
00:34:15.860 We went very early.
00:34:16.700 Yeah, we went so early.
00:34:18.300 So we were the only ones there.
00:34:19.520 If any of you guys plan to go to Jerusalem, the best thing you could do is, which very 0.88
00:34:27.520 easy to do, actually, if you're flying from United States, because you're jet lagged, you
00:34:33.040 will be up very early.
00:34:34.360 Do not try to flip-flop and bat, go out, catch a tour guide very early.
00:34:42.040 If it's 5 a.m., go.
00:34:44.400 You will not regret it.
00:34:45.880 You will be able to see all the sacred places and all the sacred spots with zero people, 0.97
00:34:55.480 because the crowds usually get there around 9 or 10.
00:34:59.100 This is, this is the worst time to go.
00:35:02.420 Take an early time.
00:35:03.780 You will love it.
00:35:04.740 You'll be able to see and experience it without having to rush through it.
00:35:08.440 And we loved it.
00:35:09.900 And we have, we have that photo.
00:35:11.180 It's just me and you together standing in the room in the last, the upper room, the
00:35:15.580 upper chamber of the Last Supper all by ourselves.
00:35:20.340 And it's, I never thought I would have something like that.
00:35:23.900 And so to have that opportunity to actually walk in the footsteps of Christ, in the footsteps
00:35:30.320 of our Lord, you know, that go to the Mount of Olives and we picked up a couple of olive
00:35:34.800 needles, you know, it was, I mean, it was something that I remember, you know, going to
00:35:40.940 church when I was little and my parents taking me and I was always looking at the stations
00:35:45.140 of the cross and the beautiful stained glass windows and hearing this story and the greatest
00:35:50.380 story ever told.
00:35:51.260 And I said, man, I'd love to actually go there.
00:35:54.460 Right.
00:35:54.920 Because, and that's always been something in our relationship that, and somebody actually
00:35:59.820 just asked me the other day at Turning Point, they were like, they're like, oh, does Tanya
00:36:03.480 like to travel or, or, you know, does you, does your travel schedule, is that like bother
00:36:07.560 her or something? 0.99
00:36:08.180 And I was like, does it bother her?
00:36:09.860 I love it.
00:36:10.560 She loves it.
00:36:11.760 Like she loves traveling more than I do.
00:36:14.000 I think I'm a very easy to travel with partner.
00:36:19.820 I believe I, uh, I don't need a huge advance.
00:36:24.040 There were times that Jack would tell me about the event or trip a few hours before it was
00:36:30.740 about to happen.
00:36:31.620 And, uh, I'm very easy on the fly, very quick to get ready.
00:36:36.380 And, um, and that's, that's actually true.
00:36:40.260 And that's, I'll totally give you credit on that.
00:36:41.620 That's totally true.
00:36:42.580 Like you are not one of those girls who spends like an hour getting ready and packing and
00:36:49.040 do, you're just like, boom, boom, boom, done.
00:36:51.400 If, if I am offered a wonderful experience with you, just going to a new place or even
00:37:00.460 to the place where we've been, but having a chance to spend it together, it doesn't
00:37:04.520 matter to me if I have all the makeup on or if I'm just wearing my hoodie, as long
00:37:09.660 as we're together, having to experience it all, it's the best moments.
00:37:14.520 So we're getting towards the end of this and, you know, it is Christmas and I do want to
00:37:21.640 say Merry Christmas again to everybody out there.
00:37:23.480 Is that the moment where I give you my Christmas wish list?
00:37:25.360 And thank you.
00:37:26.160 What?
00:37:26.340 No, no.
00:37:26.880 I've had that before.
00:37:27.880 Don't worry.
00:37:28.440 Don't worry.
00:37:28.740 Long, long time before, but you know, I think that what I wanted to end it on was if they
00:37:38.200 ever listened to this again, our boys, you know, sometime a long time from now in the
00:37:44.000 future, especially AJ, when he's a little bit older, I mean, he's not even talking yet.
00:37:48.520 And Jack Jack, you know, he's a little bit too young, by the way, for the record, Jack
00:37:53.160 Jack, if you are listening to this new years later, we wanted to have you on, but somebody
00:37:57.120 wanted to play with mama's phone.
00:37:58.860 And so it didn't work out.
00:38:01.540 But what, um, what message would you have for our boys at Christmas time?
00:38:07.160 As a mom, I want them to be very happy in life and treasure the moments together and
00:38:19.180 appreciate all the family traditions.
00:38:23.200 And as they grow older, as they become teenagers and they will want to spend less and less time
00:38:29.980 together, I hope they will look back to their childhood and be happy.
00:38:37.160 about all the memories that we've tried to create for them and maybe stop by and surprise
00:38:45.020 us as the best Christmas present for both of us, I think.
00:38:50.940 And I want them to think of Christmas time, to circle back on it as the period of hope and
00:39:01.080 faith and family.
00:39:04.440 family, I always want them to hold on to those three things in their life the most.
00:39:13.040 This is who we are.
00:39:14.600 This is who our families have always been.
00:39:17.840 This is our tradition.
00:39:19.080 This is the way of our people.
00:39:20.240 And if you don't continue those traditions, if you don't pass them on, then they could
00:39:28.200 be gone in one generation.
00:39:29.940 So that's why I think it's so important to always do that.
00:39:33.660 But now for the final question, what do you think I got you?
00:39:37.720 What would you want me to get you that you think I don't know about?
00:39:53.960 You see, you put me right on the spot.
00:39:56.240 I never even thought of it.
00:39:57.140 I feel like I've already got this wonderful gift of being here with you for 10 days in
00:40:03.780 Arizona, just watching our kids have fun in the desert, playing with all the cacti and
00:40:12.060 running around the zoo.
00:40:14.420 This is this is the best gift.
00:40:17.640 Is there more?
00:40:18.480 All right, boys.
00:40:19.100 So so a lot of those gifts, we can we can give a lot of that stuff back, guys, a lot
00:40:24.100 of returns.
00:40:25.020 I think I understand.
00:40:27.960 You know, and for the record, by the way, for the record, right?
00:40:30.960 Who was it that I always say this?
00:40:33.040 Who was it?
00:40:33.680 Because I don't usually have you on.
00:40:35.040 Who was it that went to our bed and said, we're getting rid of all these pillows and
00:40:38.380 we're replacing them with my pillows?
00:40:40.220 Who said that?
00:40:40.780 This girl right here.
00:40:42.400 And why and why did you say that?
00:40:45.400 Which girl would not want to get rid of all the old pillows? 1.00
00:40:49.100 And put on all the new ones that are that are so great.
00:40:55.100 And yeah, so like I people always think that I'm putting them on when I say that.
00:41:00.160 But like, no, the moment I heard that we're getting or could get new pillows.
00:41:04.700 I was like, OK, done.
00:41:06.240 But do you actually sleep on my pillows every night?
00:41:10.180 Yes or no?
00:41:10.500 Every night.
00:41:11.120 How do you like the my pillows?
00:41:12.240 I love them.
00:41:13.280 I do.
00:41:14.360 So you like like a and it's like a firmer because you like a firmer pillow.
00:41:17.480 I do.
00:41:17.800 What about the topper?
00:41:19.100 I love the topper.
00:41:21.400 It's very soft.
00:41:23.440 And for a little girl, I love sleeping on the elevated bed.
00:41:29.660 This is the princess and the pea over here, by the way, folks, just so you know.
00:41:32.960 And when it comes to the sheets, what do you think of our Giza Dream sheets?
00:41:39.560 What do I think?
00:41:40.280 I already got a Giza sheets to all of my girlfriends as Christmas gifts.
00:41:44.200 You already got.
00:41:44.960 Oh, no.
00:41:45.420 Yes.
00:41:45.660 Well, by now they've already opened the gifts.
00:41:48.420 So spoiler alert.
00:41:49.600 Oh, boy.
00:41:50.300 Oh, boy.
00:41:50.680 Well, there's a couple.
00:41:51.400 There's a couple more.
00:41:52.400 But we are pretty much out of time.
00:41:54.280 We run here.
00:41:54.840 So from all of us to all of you, all of the Poso family to everybody out there, I hope that
00:42:00.800 you're having a very Merry Christmas.
00:42:02.620 You know, we wanted to keep this just talking about tradition, just talking about what it
00:42:06.260 was like growing up, the kind of Christmases we had.
00:42:08.860 You know, one thing I always said, by the way, that we always did on Christmas was that
00:42:12.060 we always went and we could never play with our toys, right, when we play with them because
00:42:17.260 it was either off to church or it was off to the family, the next family's house or over
00:42:20.940 to see our friends.
00:42:21.880 And then you'd see, hey, what'd you get?
00:42:23.220 What'd you get?
00:42:23.520 What'd you get?
00:42:23.960 And then it was always the next day that you would actually get to play with their open
00:42:27.360 everything because the first day was always full of family stuff.
00:42:31.020 And so I hope that as you guys are listening to this, you are on your way to family.
00:42:34.980 And if you're not, pick up your phone, call someone in your family that you haven't talked
00:42:39.920 to in a while and wish them a Merry Christmas.
00:42:42.860 Any final messages?
00:42:45.100 Hope you guys are enjoying this time with family.
00:42:49.640 Slow down on all the unwrapping.
00:42:51.980 Look around your family and say a blessing.
00:42:56.300 Be grateful for all the loved ones in your life.
00:43:00.060 Those are the most precious gifts that you could ever get.
00:43:04.740 And hold on to them a little tighter.
00:43:06.700 Well, I know the most precious gift that I ever got.
00:43:08.840 A hundred percent.
00:43:10.600 Oh, and on that note, ladies and gentlemen, you have our permission to lay a shore.
00:43:18.520 Oh, Merry Christmas, everybody.