Human Events Daily with Jack Posobiec - HUMAN EVENTS DAILY： DR. JAMES LINDSAY ON THE GREAT RESET AND CRT

00:00:00.000 Ladies and gentlemen, welcome aboard to today's edition of Human Events Daily.

00:00:06.100 What we're doing during this holiday break season, this Christmas break season,

00:00:09.780 as I've told everybody, we're doing these one-on-one interviews,

00:00:12.340 kind of just be able to sit down with people, pick their brains about what's going on in the world,

00:00:17.140 and really make something that's just kind of an evergreen content that people could listen to at any time.

00:00:22.100 And though, unfortunately for you guys, I do have to apologize because I said we were going to pick their brains,

00:00:26.660 but right now we're interviewing James Lindsay.

00:00:29.200 So, of course, you know, this is probably going to be a very short episode

00:00:32.020 because we don't have a lot of material to work with there.

00:00:35.760 But, you know, we've got James Lindsay, the Dark Lord, the evil id of Twitter, author of Sinical Theories,

00:00:42.020 and then you guys have a new version of it out, right?

00:00:44.680 Yeah, we have a new version called Social Injustice coming out next month.

00:00:48.300 Oh, it's coming out next month.

00:00:49.060 And that's sort of like an abridged, explain the difference between what the original book is and then what this is.

00:00:54.880 So the original book is written probably at like a late college, early graduate school kind of level of scholarship.

00:01:01.200 It was very hard for me to get through that one.

00:01:03.060 Yeah, that one's a little harder.

00:01:05.300 This one's easy reading.

00:01:06.460 It's the same arguments, the same case that we make, and it's summarized.

00:01:10.300 It's kind of boiled down to its simplest essence.

00:01:12.460 Take a lot of the difficult, clunky scholarship, the long block quotes and things out so that you can just get the meat without having to...

00:01:18.880 Well, no, what I actually did like about the book, and I think the last time I saw it, you gave me a copy of it,

00:01:24.460 and what I liked about it is you've gone to such a...

00:01:28.820 Like, you are inside their minds at this point in terms of you know more about critical race theory and where it's come from

00:01:36.480 than the people who are the critical race theorists at this point.

00:01:40.560 And what you've done in that, it's a compendium is the way I looked at it, as you have the research all there.

00:01:46.500 So when someone says, oh, that's not real, or oh, that's not a thing, it's boom, page 56, boom, page 102, boom, and it's all there.

00:01:55.040 I actually have a funny story, if you don't mind to tell us a funny story.

00:01:57.940 I got invited to go on the Dr. Phil show over the summer, and it's supposed to come out...

00:02:02.780 Like the Dr. Phil.

00:02:03.960 The Dr. Phil.

00:02:04.920 Yeah, that guy.

00:02:06.220 I've heard he's not nice, by the way.

00:02:07.760 Well, I interacted with him so much as...

00:02:09.860 That's what I heard, too.

00:02:10.840 Oh, really?

00:02:11.260 And so...

00:02:12.080 But I interacted with him personally.

00:02:14.160 I'm not nice to my staff, either.

00:02:15.380 Well, I know you wouldn't be.

00:02:16.880 That's why I like you.

00:02:17.820 Exactly, yes.

00:02:19.340 Harassment, et cetera, very important.

00:02:20.860 That's right, shaming, harassing.

00:02:21.460 No, but he grabbed my shoulder as he walked out, that's it.

00:02:23.420 So I have no idea, I didn't talk to the guy.

00:02:25.280 But no, he...

00:02:25.680 Was he aiming somewhere else?

00:02:26.820 No, he was...

00:02:28.000 Unfortunately.

00:02:28.340 And I couldn't tell if it was a very exasperated thing, because I went on there and, like, went off.

00:02:31.620 Like, I went berserk.

00:02:33.020 It's epic.

00:02:33.760 Wait, wait, wait, so this already happened?

00:02:37.760 I feel like I would have seen if you were on...

00:02:39.320 It comes out on January 5th.

00:02:41.260 Comes out on January 5th.

00:02:42.080 They sat on that a little while, didn't they?

00:02:43.140 So, wait, wait, wait.

00:02:43.720 They...

00:02:44.320 And let me just get this time out straight.

00:02:46.540 They did this interview all the way back in August.

00:02:48.860 Does he do that normally?

00:02:49.880 No, they told us two to three weeks.

00:02:51.460 Yeah.

00:02:52.220 Because I would say, you know, usually...

00:02:53.580 They sat on this one a while.

00:02:54.540 Like, this interview, even though, you know, like I just said in the intro here, we're doing these because, you know, actually, even though I am mean to my staff, I did kind of want to give them, you know, a little bit of a break over Christmas.

00:03:05.180 And then, so we're doing the...

00:03:06.040 But it's going to come out next week.

00:03:07.040 Like, it's not, you know, I'm going to sit on it forever.

00:03:09.100 Yeah.

00:03:09.340 So, anyway, he brought out a CRT expert, right?

00:03:13.060 Right.

00:03:13.300 So, on the show.

00:03:14.080 Yeah.

00:03:14.280 Sean Harper, USC professor there.

00:03:17.460 And the guy's, like, saying all this stuff.

00:03:19.300 And what was really evil, he brought out the professor.

00:03:21.700 Then he started bringing out moms and dads against critical race theory and let the professor shoot him down and embarrass him.

00:03:26.700 And, you know, I was sitting backstage.

00:03:28.220 Yeah, I didn't get brought out until the end.

00:03:29.240 Oh, so you're not out yet.

00:03:30.160 Yeah.

00:03:30.480 And I was getting, like, hot watching this.

00:03:31.040 You're just watching this.

00:03:31.900 Yeah. 1.00

00:03:32.020 It's like, because it's so garbage. 0.98

00:03:34.120 And so, this guy's either lying or wrong, one or the other. 0.99

00:03:37.040 I don't know which.

00:03:37.900 Right.

00:03:38.160 But I guarantee he's probably doing it with, you know, the condescension and that sort of, like, overconfidence, overbearing.

00:03:46.740 Yeah, yeah.

00:03:47.060 I know all.

00:03:47.980 I know better.

00:03:48.360 Like, he was sitting up on his perch.

00:03:49.580 I am professor.

00:03:50.860 Yeah, exactly.

00:03:51.260 And you are some, you know, rube, grimy, grit under your, you know, toenails kind of rube. 0.96

00:03:57.820 How dare you question the professor? 0.98

00:03:59.280 How dare you?

00:04:00.040 Yeah, exactly.

00:04:00.640 And so, when I came out, instead of, like, Dr. Phil's like, well, what would you, you know, ask some question.

00:04:05.060 And I was like, I'm not going to answer that.

00:04:06.480 And I went off.

00:04:07.300 And I just started calling out the professor for his lies.

00:04:09.540 I was like, you said it wasn't 1989, but if you're a real critical race theorist, you know that the founding conference was at a convent off the side of the University of Wisconsin-Madison.

00:04:18.280 And it was in 1989.

00:04:19.900 You know, and it's like, you said this, but this on page whatever of, you know, page 19 of Ibram Kennedy says this.

00:04:24.800 And it's just bam, bam, bam, one thing after another after another.

00:04:27.080 So, yeah, you're right.

00:04:27.820 I kind of know it better than they do.

00:04:29.940 Was he still on at that point?

00:04:31.660 Oh, yeah.

00:04:32.160 Yeah, he was having, like, a fit.

00:04:34.440 He was up there just like, ah, you know.

00:04:35.680 Oh, I got to watch this.

00:04:36.580 Oh, I don't know how they're going to cut it, but I'm assuming badly for me.

00:04:40.300 Right.

00:04:40.520 Well, and that's one of the things that I've learned with stuff like that that I've done.

00:04:44.980 Because I actually was on Joy Reid years ago at one point, like, on a panel.

00:04:49.240 And they kind of, like, planned to me and they said, oh, we just need, like, a guy from Philly who's kind of conservative.

00:04:53.360 I said, I'll do it.

00:04:55.220 You know, and I started up.

00:04:56.720 She did not like that I actually knew LBJ's actual civil rights record.

00:05:01.040 Oh, wow.

00:05:01.400 Um, then she's, oh, no, LBJ, civil rights, he's the one, he drove for it, he was the champion.

00:05:06.660 And I'm like, well, yeah, maybe after, you know, after Dealey Plaza.

00:05:11.260 But prior to then, not so much.

00:05:13.540 Not so much.

00:05:14.200 Not so much.

00:05:14.800 And I just start going, it's like, and I'm not even making an argument whether it's good or not.

00:05:19.360 I'm just saying, like you just said, that's not the history.

00:05:22.280 When he was a congressman, he was a genet.

00:05:24.320 When he was a senator, he was really a genet.

00:05:26.420 He participated in the filibuster with Al Gore's father.

00:05:28.980 I mean, this is just history.

00:05:30.660 It's just basic history.

00:05:31.820 Right, right, right.

00:05:32.760 But I knew it all off the top of my head.

00:05:34.000 I didn't even know we were going to talk about that stuff.

00:05:35.140 Yeah, it goes rough when that happens, you know.

00:05:36.740 Yeah, they don't like it.

00:05:37.720 No.

00:05:38.000 No, they don't like it.

00:05:38.740 And you know what's funny is that not only has she not invited me back, she blocked me on Twitter the other day.

00:05:45.280 How pleasant.

00:05:46.340 Well, it's annoying, though, because I don't even think that I was, I wasn't even tweeting at Joy Reid at that point.

00:05:51.380 So I don't even know where that even came from.

00:05:54.960 Maybe she's watching you.

00:05:56.260 Well, I watch her every night.

00:05:58.040 That is the only one.

00:05:59.160 Look, I know a lot of people like Tucker.

00:06:00.660 For me, Joy Reid is the only show, I kid you not, I will watch that every single night religiously.

00:06:07.640 Well, that makes sense.

00:06:07.980 Because she is the gift that keeps on giving.

00:06:10.240 Correct.

00:06:11.040 That's right.

00:06:11.840 I mean.

00:06:12.280 That's why I tell everybody that my favorite critical race theorist of all time is Robin DiAngelo.

00:06:16.260 Yes.

00:06:16.520 And she just spills it out.

00:06:18.040 Exactly. 0.99

00:06:18.740 And it's like, okay, so you're a white racist lady. 1.00

00:06:20.800 You're clearly mentally ill. 1.00

00:06:22.440 Like, she just says it. 1.00

00:06:24.160 Right.

00:06:24.940 It's like you're clearly struggling.

00:06:26.780 You're like, so, so, all right, all right, all right.

00:06:29.300 We said we were going to have like an actual interview, so we'll probably do that at some point.

00:06:31.920 Yeah, we have to pick my brain.

00:06:33.080 Right, the brain picking.

00:06:34.120 So what I wanted to ask you was because I know you've done so much great work talking about this.

00:06:41.680 And, well, maybe we'll do that at first.

00:06:43.000 But, you know, give us in a nutshell, how did we get here?

00:06:48.280 How did critical race theory go from this rinky-dink conference in the 1980s up to, like, taking over the military, taking over the heads, the minds of the Pentagon, U.S. military, you know, the greatest, most powerful military in the world.

00:07:02.420 And they're what?

00:07:03.280 They're paying attention to this stuff that's like Barry a couple of decades old?

00:07:05.980 And, you know, this wasn't exactly, you know, the founding fathers or enlightenment thinkers or, you know, Edmund Burke or any of this stuff, right?

00:07:14.760 Or even Clausewitz, right?

00:07:16.140 You know, Total War.

00:07:16.880 No, no, no, none of that.

00:07:18.120 No, or Lind on 4G Warfare.

00:07:20.220 No, none of that.

00:07:20.920 No, we're going to listen to critical race theory.

00:07:22.700 How do we get from that to this?

00:07:25.060 There's three primary components, really.

00:07:27.560 The first is what you hear is a so-called long march to the institution.

00:07:31.160 So this was all bubbling up within the universities.

00:07:35.380 And kind of what that does is, you know, the educational pillar of society connects to all the other pillars.

00:07:41.820 Where are you going to get your media people?

00:07:43.160 You're going to get them out of educated media or out of educated people that went to the university.

00:07:47.700 Where are you going to get your politicians?

00:07:49.140 Out of fancy finishing schools like Harvard.

00:07:51.560 Where are you going to get your, you know, future teachers?

00:07:55.060 Out of the university.

00:07:56.340 So by marching... 0.97

00:07:57.340 Well, there used to be this idea, though, that, you know, oh, well, we understand that the professors are crazy.

00:08:03.660 But when people graduate and they get to the work pool and they realize what real life is like, they'll just shake that off.

00:08:10.200 But that didn't happen, did it?

00:08:11.140 Well, it turned out.

00:08:12.220 So that's point number one.

00:08:13.880 And that's the neo-Marxist plan to stop being radicals in the street and get into K through 12 education.

00:08:19.140 And then to get into the university system and to take over education on both levels.

00:08:22.400 So that's coming out of the 60s, early 70s.

00:08:25.740 And what happened by the end of the 70s, the primary target they shot for was schools of education.

00:08:30.620 So the primary thing they sought to take over was how we teach our kids and what we teach our kids.

00:08:35.760 Starting by early 1980s, they had almost full control over the colleges of education in terms of what curriculum is going to come out, what education is going to focus on.

00:08:44.980 And they started working more and more very strategically of this, what they call critical pedagogy in.

00:08:49.680 What that does is it's like it's, think of like a field or whatever, right?

00:08:52.640 If you want to grow corn in the field, you've got to plow the soil first.

00:08:56.060 You've got to prepare it.

00:08:57.200 By teaching the teachers, they were basically putting the plows in the hands and getting the kids of the next generation primed for this change.

00:09:05.360 And then those people grow up, go to university, become teachers, and they plow the soil even better.

00:09:09.960 And they finally get the soil prepared so that the revolution can burst forth.

00:09:15.060 The third component is big money interest realized its utility, especially after the Occupy Wall Street movement.

00:09:21.400 They watched the banks kind of sweat it out, 2011 or so, sweating it out, occupies this huge thing.

00:09:28.400 It's actually crossing party boundaries.

00:09:30.420 It's not just a left-wing movement.

00:09:31.660 A lot of people thought it was.

00:09:32.460 But a lot of right-wing guys were looking at this like, no, the banks are a big part of the problem.

00:09:36.600 We'll lend support and help this out too.

00:09:38.380 Well, and this is where Bitcoin was not really a left-wing thing when it started.

00:09:41.400 It was more like a libertarian thing.

00:09:42.640 Exactly.

00:09:43.120 And so this was kind of like fleshing out.

00:09:45.640 And the banks were like basically sending the intersectionalists.

00:09:48.440 You talk to the guys that were involved in Occupy that were the organizers.

00:09:51.640 A lot of them were white guys.

00:09:53.120 And they said, you know, by a year or two in, it got so frustrating.

00:09:55.920 Everything had to be, no, only black women get to speak or only black women get to speak first. 1.00

00:09:59.080 You just have white privilege.

00:10:00.540 And the banks realized that this would melt this thing down.

00:10:03.660 And then all these other big financial interests were like, this is the tool.

00:10:07.400 And they started dumping grant money into it just by the millions and billions.

00:10:11.660 You know, how did we get so much critical race theory in education?

00:10:14.600 Well, starting about 15 years ago, 10 years ago, somewhere in that range,

00:10:18.060 the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation started dumping tons and tons of money in it.

00:10:21.680 The same professor I mentioned on Dr. Phil.

00:10:23.940 Go to his CV.

00:10:24.700 I looked it up on, it's on his website, on his university website.

00:10:27.620 Click on his CV.

00:10:28.580 Oh, they love posting CVs, all four or five pages.

00:10:31.260 Yeah, exactly.

00:10:31.540 They're all so excited about how long it is.

00:10:33.120 It's all my grants.

00:10:34.400 And it's like, Bill and Melinda Gates, Bill and Melinda Gates, Bill and Melinda Gates.

00:10:37.540 It's like, this guy, Bill and Melinda Gates have given this guy millions of dollars over the years.

00:10:41.060 But they just want to give back.

00:10:43.100 No, they want to make use of the tool that they found that works really, really well,

00:10:47.340 that breaks up any movement that might look at their big power interests,

00:10:52.500 especially those being tied to the financial industry.

00:10:55.740 And I've seen this a lot lately, and we talk about this, and I did a whole book on Antifa,

00:10:59.180 and we touched on this from a different perspective.

00:11:02.180 But the idea that, you know, and I said it the last time I was doing a podcast,

00:11:06.620 actually with Alex Clark, who's also here at Turning Point.

00:11:08.840 And I said, you know, it's funny enough, like, Occupy was kind of right about a lot of the things

00:11:15.060 they were talking about, at least economically.

00:11:16.960 And, you know, of course, we didn't listen because it didn't seem like it was coming from people

00:11:22.320 who could be right about that.

00:11:23.720 But then once we did see the power of the big banks and Wall Street,

00:11:27.340 we realized that by the time we had figured it out, the people who had been there had flipped.

00:11:33.780 And now somehow, you know, by hook and by crook, they're on the same side as BlackRock

00:11:39.340 and Bank of America and Citigroup.

00:11:41.840 And we're sitting there scratching our heads going, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait.

00:11:44.680 Like, Klaus Schwab is out there talking about the great, the great reset, the great reset.

00:11:50.280 That's the key right there.

00:11:51.500 And, you know, and we must build back better, which is, of course, the slogan of the great reset.

00:11:55.600 I don't know if people realize that when they combine the two.

00:11:58.360 And that, because it wasn't just, you know, the Biden administration pushing to build back better.

00:12:01.580 This was going through Boris Johnson.

00:12:03.340 It was coming out of Davos.

00:12:04.280 I don't know if you just saw, but they just canceled the next Davos.

00:12:06.760 I'm so sorry because of COVID.

00:12:08.840 That's a shame.

00:12:09.800 Omakouf comes in handy, finally.

00:12:11.220 Oh, no, Omakouf.

00:12:11.900 Yeah, the silver lining, silver lining.

00:12:13.400 I also saw that all of Broadway got shut down.

00:12:15.920 Oh, no.

00:12:16.580 Oh, no.

00:12:17.580 Womp, womp. 1.00

00:12:19.220 Sad trombone.

00:12:20.880 Exactly.

00:12:21.460 And so we didn't plan that, by the way.

00:12:22.840 So, you know, you have all this stuff going on, and yet you've got these guys who are, you know,

00:12:27.980 fight the power, fight the rage against the machine, right?

00:12:30.160 Yeah, right.

00:12:30.460 Fight the power, right?

00:12:31.580 It's like, but fight for the power.

00:12:34.400 But for the real power.

00:12:35.440 For the real power.

00:12:36.280 Yeah.

00:12:36.400 It's like, no, these are like the actual fascists, right?

00:12:39.500 That's right.

00:12:39.600 And you're like on the side.

00:12:40.960 I don't understand it.

00:12:41.620 Right.

00:12:41.880 Well, the World Economic Forum has been grooming these people for decades.

00:12:45.160 They've got an agenda.

00:12:46.400 The Great Reset's been planned for a long time.

00:12:49.300 And, you know, they've always wanted to have the various elements that they were going to

00:12:52.960 use to create the Great Reset.

00:12:54.560 It's going to require societal chaos and so on.

00:12:57.220 And again, they discover the power of identity politics, and they start moving their metrics.

00:13:01.660 The SG, for example, environmental, social, and governance metrics that they use to decide

00:13:06.260 who can get investments, whose portfolios to get what.

00:13:08.460 Which is essentially, what I call it is, it's a corporate social credit score.

00:13:11.400 It is.

00:13:11.880 That's exactly what it is.

00:13:12.660 That's all I say.

00:13:13.640 Corporate social credit score.

00:13:14.420 Because you can go through an ESG, and it means this.

00:13:16.980 Sure, sure.

00:13:18.020 They took the model out of the CCP.

00:13:20.700 That's right.

00:13:21.100 Of the social credit score, and they made it, they corporatized it.

00:13:24.200 And so, you don't need legislation for this anymore.

00:13:27.380 You don't need any ruling.

00:13:28.860 You don't need, you know, Biden doesn't have to issue an executive order.

00:13:31.860 No, no, no, no.

00:13:32.280 No, this is where BlackRock essentially becomes the operations arm of the Fed.

00:13:36.680 That's right.

00:13:37.060 Right?

00:13:37.660 So, the Fed prints the money.

00:13:39.140 They give it to their buddies.

00:13:40.420 Their buddies at BlackRock and Blackstone and others, then go out, and they're going to

00:13:45.240 sprinkle it around the community.

00:13:46.940 Okay, you're going to get investment.

00:13:48.160 You're going to get some VC cash.

00:13:49.300 You're going to get this.

00:13:49.980 And it's all fake.

00:13:50.820 It's all the money of the people, right?

00:13:52.980 And which is pumping up the inflationary pressures that we're seeing now.

00:13:55.840 But it's also the idea of, but before you can get those investments, right?

00:14:00.640 Because you've got these boomers like Larry Fink, these liberal boomers who are sitting 0.97

00:14:05.240 there going and saying, well, if we can just push these values a little bit more, you know,

00:14:11.380 this will, you know, and that's actually where I'm actually, I'm kind of like, it just

00:14:17.080 in my thinking and my research on this is how much of it is Larry Fink actually just

00:14:22.580 believes he's doing the right thing and how much of it is Larry Fink is doing what's

00:14:27.120 good for his bottom line.

00:14:28.420 Yeah, that I can't answer anybody.

00:14:30.060 You know what I mean, right?

00:14:31.000 Yeah, but that's a problem.

00:14:32.240 But what are these values?

00:14:33.540 We can very clearly see environmental, social, and governance.

00:14:37.000 And so social is where all of these critical social theories gained dominance.

00:14:41.220 They saw the utility of these things to do, to make the kind of conditions that they

00:14:45.320 can operate in optimally.

00:14:47.080 It sells to the public well.

00:14:48.640 It gives them this kind of, oh, we're caring about the new version of the civil rights movement.

00:14:52.580 Which has tremendous social cash throughout the entire West.

00:14:56.360 Everybody since the 1960s has been pretty positive about civil rights developments.

00:15:01.020 And so they know that that's like the so-called right side of history.

00:15:04.300 And so these critical social theories that are in like critical race theory, gender theory,

00:15:09.420 et cetera, are tucked into that S score.

00:15:12.200 And so they were able to start using this corporate social credit system that's been in

00:15:16.980 place for a long time now to start pushing these values simultaneously to give grants

00:15:21.960 and start directing people who were doing that to go further down that road and further

00:15:25.980 down that road.

00:15:26.740 So it's all kind of tied together.

00:15:27.960 But they saw the utility of this thing to cause massive social disruption that keeps their

00:15:33.400 advantage present.

00:15:34.980 So by the way, this is where- 0.99

00:15:36.700 These fools are using the woke. 1.00

00:15:38.460 Right. 0.99

00:15:38.920 And this is also kind of what a lot of people don't see is that a lot of these companies,

00:15:44.200 particularly the publicly traded ones, they're not constituted to be in the process of selling

00:15:51.340 widgets, selling products.

00:15:53.040 Like people don't understand, they're constituted to prop up their stock value.

00:15:58.820 That's right.

00:15:59.120 For the stock.

00:15:59.720 And so that's why a lot of people, when they hear get woke, go broke, they think, oh, well,

00:16:05.600 anything woke will fail.

00:16:07.000 And it does.

00:16:08.020 But at the same time, they don't care.

00:16:11.180 They don't care that, you know, people aren't going to spend $100 million on this movie because

00:16:16.280 BlackRock controls $9 trillion.

00:16:19.360 Exactly.

00:16:19.920 That's right.

00:16:20.200 And that pot of money, because that's all they're looking at, that pot of money versus

00:16:25.100 consumer cash, they don't care if a movie flops.

00:16:28.100 That's why Netflix can make a million movies a year that nobody watches because they're

00:16:33.080 valuing it on their books and then that goes to the stock price, they're going to get more

00:16:36.100 money.

00:16:36.520 That's exactly right.

00:16:37.220 ROI is completely irrelevant because it's all about how those investment portfolios get

00:16:41.560 managed and traded.

00:16:42.800 And that's where the real money generation is happening, which gives those corporations,

00:16:47.580 those entities, tremendous amounts of power to jerk around all these things.

00:16:50.200 The other corporations along whatever vision, social vision they might have.

00:16:54.540 I was talking to a buddy of mine who is a political consultant in Pennsylvania and who

00:17:00.860 shall remain nameless, right?

00:17:02.240 But he was talking to a potential business that wanted to work with him, wanted to do some

00:17:07.100 like, you know, Harrisburg lobbying type stuff.

00:17:09.220 And he was explaining to him this whole process.

00:17:12.560 Yeah.

00:17:13.220 And he had said, and because they were, they are publicly traded, small company.

00:17:16.120 And they said, you know, it's the weirdest thing, but every year BlackRock comes in, buys

00:17:21.200 10% of the company, never talks to us, never on the calls, sells it.

00:17:27.920 Then they're gone for a while.

00:17:29.480 Then they come back, they buy it again.

00:17:31.680 And then they're gone again.

00:17:33.500 And then he said, well, why do you think they do that?

00:17:35.060 And he said, well, I think it has to do with this, this, the ESG score.

00:17:39.700 What's that?

00:17:41.320 And my buddy's sitting there listening to it, listening to it, listening to it.

00:17:44.200 Here's the explanation.

00:17:44.980 And at the end of it, he goes, so you just go along with it?

00:17:49.500 Yeah.

00:17:50.120 You just, and they said, we want the money.

00:17:52.140 We want the money.

00:17:52.760 We want the money.

00:17:53.860 Yep.

00:17:54.220 That's what it comes down to.

00:17:55.280 I mean, you hear that on the microscopic scale like that and the microscopic scale too, with

00:17:59.440 all the stuff that's creeping into medicine, the woke medicine.

00:18:01.640 I hear from doctors all the time saying, well, I know this stuff's wrong, but I got a practice

00:18:05.180 to build.

00:18:05.580 What am I going to do?

00:18:06.380 Right.

00:18:06.560 And so they want the money.

00:18:07.820 They want, they want, you know, whatever access that they can get.

00:18:11.260 And we're seeing this replicated at every level and the top level, the big key is this

00:18:16.540 social credit score run by these kinds of big investment firms.

00:18:19.360 Um, I keep saying that it's like, they've got the cart and the horse and, uh, you know, 0.98

00:18:23.860 they're the horse pulling the cart and the cart is full of all this fascistic garbage. 0.95

00:18:28.600 That's going to ruin everybody's freedom. 0.89

00:18:30.720 And the link that's holding the two together, the chain, the one link of the chain's all

00:18:34.800 together is called ESG.

00:18:36.040 It's got ESG printed on that link.

00:18:37.860 That's the thing that has to be, we looked at and broken and challenged and alternatives

00:18:42.260 have to be given, et cetera.

00:18:43.740 Like I guess Warren Buffett's not on board.

00:18:46.320 Berkshire Hathaway is not on board with the CSG stuff.

00:18:48.560 Really?

00:18:48.880 I didn't know that.

00:18:49.240 As far as I know, I only saw a little bit about it.

00:18:51.140 Yeah.

00:18:51.300 But I have seen Charlie Munger out there talking about how much he loves China's system at

00:18:55.220 the same time.

00:18:55.640 Well, that's probably not good either.

00:18:56.600 Yeah.

00:18:56.840 So, you know, it is because what he's talking about essentially is, is state capitalism,

00:19:01.480 right?

00:19:01.640 Of course.

00:19:02.020 And he was talking about how, and people forget, what was it when it came to Jack Ma?

00:19:07.720 The founder of Alibaba who essentially created these, you know, it's the eBay on steroids.

00:19:12.300 This is like eBay of the world, you know, connecting each little product that's made in China with 0.97

00:19:17.280 the rest of the world.

00:19:17.900 So you can get the distributors connected.

00:19:20.020 And, oh, I've been to the, I've been to like the actual Alibaba like facilities in, in

00:19:25.540 Zhejiang, China, where, you know, you can go in and like this little kiosk and they only

00:19:30.560 sell erasers, you know, or this one only says, because you never wonder like where that

00:19:34.660 stuff comes from.

00:19:35.380 But I've actually been there.

00:19:36.440 I've seen it.

00:19:37.200 I've been to Foxconn.

00:19:38.300 I've seen the suicide nets, all that.

00:19:40.080 And when it comes to Jack Ma, he was allowed to do all of those things.

00:19:46.380 Yeah.

00:19:46.660 But what was it that crossed the line?

00:19:48.820 When did he, when he got into banking?

00:19:50.540 That's right.

00:19:50.900 It was when he got into personal banking.

00:19:52.240 That's right.

00:19:52.520 That's right.

00:19:53.300 And so.

00:19:53.980 And then Munger loved it.

00:19:55.460 Right.

00:19:55.700 And they scooped him up and they took him away.

00:19:58.060 And they, and I love this interview.

00:19:59.140 I think it was a, it might've been ABC or NBC.

00:20:01.080 I think it was ABC.

00:20:01.920 And he goes, he goes, you know what?

00:20:03.720 I think that we should have that.

00:20:05.440 And he catches himself and he goes, well, what do you think?

00:20:06.780 Well, maybe part of that system here in the U.S.

00:20:10.280 And so this is the creepy part though, is what you have to, like BlackRock's creating

00:20:13.740 this ESG thing and, you know, and you think, okay, whatever.

00:20:16.680 But then so much of their assets are held in China where ESG doesn't apply.

00:20:21.060 Precisely.

00:20:21.420 So they're, they're creating a system that they're.

00:20:23.360 But China has a form of ESG. 0.79

00:20:25.320 Well, they do.

00:20:26.300 And it's, it's just ESG under their terms.

00:20:29.520 Right.

00:20:29.800 It's a CCP ESG or something.

00:20:31.500 Right, right.

00:20:31.860 CCP ESG.

00:20:32.480 You're right.

00:20:32.660 So it's, it's the same idea of, it's like, uh, uh, Darren Beatty has this phrase taboo

00:20:37.960 arbitrage, right?

00:20:38.860 Where, you know, there are taboos in the United States, but there are taboos in China.

00:20:41.740 So, you know, you know, you can talk about certain things in China that you can't talk

00:20:46.800 about in the United States.

00:20:47.680 Right.

00:20:47.860 And then, but you know, and you can't, you can't go to China and be talking about things

00:20:50.640 like democracy or freedom of speech or the flourishing of ideas, this type of thing.

00:20:55.120 But you can talk about, you know, you know, you can talk about any of like this potential

00:20:59.180 thought crime type of things that you're not allowed to talk about in the U.S.

00:21:01.520 Like fear of getting canceled.

00:21:02.820 And so they were the ones who really drove right down that, that path of creating a form

00:21:11.480 of state capitalism.

00:21:12.420 And I saw this when I worked in the American Chamber of Commerce in Shanghai, that we would

00:21:17.460 bring people in, delegates from the U.S., politicians and businessmen, and they would

00:21:21.780 come in and I remember the whole opening up of China was, oh, it's going to be great. 0.95

00:21:26.960 And they're going to become more liberalized and they're going to be democratic.

00:21:30.120 Just, just you wait, just a couple more minutes and they're going to be democratic and they're

00:21:33.700 going to be voting and they're going to come back with Taiwan and it's all going to be 0.99

00:21:36.820 great.

00:21:37.300 And it's going to be, you know, horseshoes and rainbows and Hong Kong is going to teach them,

00:21:41.520 you know, financial capitalism is going to lead to a liberal democracy, et cetera.

00:21:46.480 And it was the exact opposite because every time I brought Americans over and I saw, I 0.71

00:21:50.940 mean, I was, you know, like a junior guy there, but I would see the Americans come over and

00:21:54.380 they say, huh, so you want to build a maglev train and there's people in the way.

00:22:00.020 What do you do?

00:22:01.940 We make them not in the way anymore.

00:22:03.640 Yeah, we move them.

00:22:04.380 They're gone.

00:22:05.280 Yeah.

00:22:05.640 Well, what about, what about when you have the houses that have been there, shirkuman,

00:22:10.800 ancient, you know, Chinese style houses that have been made for so many years that are

00:22:15.240 just these, these historical pieces, but you want to put up a new shopping mall.

00:22:19.180 Yeah.

00:22:20.380 They're gone.

00:22:20.920 What's the problem?

00:22:21.220 You've heard of bulldozers, right?

00:22:22.080 What's the problem?

00:22:22.660 You just bulldoze.

00:22:23.660 They're very weak and they don't, they don't stay together enough for construction.

00:22:26.560 So you just take them down and then you, then you build it up.

00:22:28.920 It's what's the issue with that?

00:22:30.340 And, and they get drunk with the power, they get drunk with the power of having that level

00:22:35.600 of control, that level of, and what it is, it's, it's authoritarianism at the end of the

00:22:40.040 day, under, you know, under a different name, state, all this stuff.

00:22:43.020 And so I think that in many ways, ESG is our version of state capitalism coming in that

00:22:52.920 they learned from China.

00:22:54.460 Absolutely.

00:22:54.840 And there's, there's a more sinister and cynical interpretation of how all of that went

00:22:59.340 down, what caused the opening of China?

00:23:00.840 Who was behind that?

00:23:01.760 Well, you got Kissinger and et cetera coming over.

00:23:04.300 So what if Kissinger, who's writing books with Schmidt about transhumanism now, right?

00:23:08.580 It's like, follow this guy.

00:23:09.820 So imagine if you make the monster that you're then going to have to defeat later, right?

00:23:13.580 So you build, you create the beast and say, oh no, look at this beast.

00:23:16.640 The only way.

00:23:17.080 And what do you hear from people like the world economic forum and so on?

00:23:19.980 Well, if we want to be able to beat China, we have to become like China. 1.00

00:23:22.920 You heard this from Biden.

00:23:23.660 And you actually hear this in so many ways.

00:23:26.000 And people will say like, why is everyone's favorite Hungarian billionaire anti-China and

00:23:30.740 anti-CCP?

00:23:32.300 And you realize, and on one hand, it's kind of part of the Game of Thrones of, you know,

00:23:37.340 I want to protect my interests.

00:23:38.660 I want power.

00:23:39.320 You're going to take my power.

00:23:40.580 But it's also that, well, we've got to do this great reset if we want to compete with

00:23:45.020 China.

00:23:45.300 It's the only way we've got to, we've got to implement this stuff.

00:23:48.140 We've got to take away private ownership.

00:23:49.700 We've got to lead to more, you know, BlackRock has to own the houses.

00:23:52.640 You guys are going to be more of a Russian surf class, a renter class, but don't worry

00:23:56.200 because you'll be happy.

00:23:57.020 And oh, by the way, it'll be plugged into Zuckerverse and Neuralink and everything else.

00:24:00.340 And you'll be totally fine.

00:24:01.220 You, well, it's not that you won't own anything.

00:24:02.740 It's that you'll own, you know, a massive palatial 5,000 square foot house in Zuckerworld,

00:24:07.420 right?

00:24:07.620 You know, floating in space somewhere while you're, while you're at home being plugged in, getting

00:24:11.080 your 25th booster, you know?

00:24:13.320 Exactly.

00:24:14.060 Yeah.

00:24:14.280 And so our, our favorite billionaire over there, you know, also has a vision.

00:24:17.340 If we take him at his word of an open society.

00:24:19.460 Right.

00:24:19.560 And so China doesn't have an open society.

00:24:21.620 So China's not on his, his list of great places, uh, which is probably why the Chinese government 0.98

00:24:27.000 named him a terrorist recently.

00:24:28.780 Um, I don't know if you knew that.

00:24:30.760 Oh, no, I don't.

00:24:31.200 Yeah.

00:24:31.380 Yeah.

00:24:31.540 So, um, you know, there's this weird, you say Game of Thrones, but there's this really

00:24:36.440 weird competition going on way up at the top there now where, uh, strange things are

00:24:41.240 now in motion.

00:24:41.920 Well, I call it, you know, you know, we talk of sort of like the, the deep state, right?

00:24:45.680 A lot, this sort of a, a, a compression, but we also have to think of the terms of, in

00:24:50.200 terms of the overstate, right?

00:24:51.700 And so this is your, sort of your oligarch level.

00:24:53.800 This is, you know, they're the people that are moved.

00:24:56.360 We can see the chess pieces being moved around, but these are the people actually holding

00:25:00.260 the chess pieces and then deciding, okay, I'm going to make this move.

00:25:03.800 I'm going to move against she, and you didn't think I was going to do that, but now here 1.00

00:25:07.120 it is.

00:25:07.460 And we'll put money in this direction.

00:25:08.820 Exactly.

00:25:09.020 I think a lot of it honestly does come down to, as we were saying before, the idea of

00:25:13.680 we want to maintain our financial prowess.

00:25:15.720 We want to maintain, um, our, our holdings on resources and, and ultimately uphold their

00:25:20.560 influence.

00:25:21.420 Right.

00:25:21.620 And of course, the vision that the transhumanist vision that you actually just alluded to

00:25:26.140 that, you know, there's going to be, there are these super elite people who deserve to

00:25:29.940 have, you know, eternal life, eternal life, and they're going to be free.

00:25:33.260 And then you have, unfortunately, you know, five other billion people that you got to figure

00:25:36.680 out what to do with.

00:25:37.280 Well, you're the, you're the fuel cell, right?

00:25:38.660 You're the fuel cell for the machine.

00:25:41.200 Um, if you are a member of the, the global Lao Bai Jing, the global deplorables. 0.92

00:25:45.060 Correct.

00:25:45.400 And then this is how they institute Elysium, right?

00:25:48.300 This is what a lot of sci-fi got this wrong, is that, you know, they implement it, but then

00:25:53.880 there isn't, there isn't an uprising, right?

00:25:56.120 Because you're, you're too busy being distracted by whatever the late, you know, get your latest

00:26:00.160 download of Neuralink, get your latest download of Zucker, Zuckerberg 2.0.

00:26:03.820 This is, and, you know, I watch Writer Player One, and I look at it, and I, and, you know,

00:26:08.360 the Oasis is what they call it in that, and I say, you know, this seems interesting, but

00:26:13.340 also terrifying, absolutely terrifying.

00:26:15.840 And you, and, and at the end, if you've seen it or read the book, that's what it's all

00:26:19.680 about.

00:26:19.940 But, you know, it's, it's like, it's all altruistic, and, um, the guy who did it is

00:26:25.060 like this huge, um, 80s gamer kind of guy, and so you have to, um, in order to find your

00:26:31.460 legacy in the game, you have to, um, you have to have memorized all of the John Hughes movies,

00:26:36.100 and then, like, each John Hughes movie is like a level of the game as you go through, and

00:26:40.440 then the player who finds all the clues becomes, I'm like, you know, and there's 80s video games

00:26:44.840 references and stuff, becomes, like, the inheritor of the company, and then you control the Oasis.

00:26:49.900 Yeah, that's not what it's going to be like.

00:26:51.340 No, that's not what it's going to be like.

00:26:52.460 No, that's not what it's going to be like at all.

00:26:53.980 No, you're, because it all comes back to those stock trades being the new big financial current,

00:26:58.960 and so your behavior becomes the data they need so that they can predict what those good

00:27:03.640 stock trades are versus bad stock trades.

00:27:05.580 So you're downloading the, the next Zuckerverse, and what are you going to go do in that?

00:27:10.040 And they're going to predict, you're going to owe this, that, the other thing.

00:27:12.500 That's the kind of things people want to do.

00:27:13.820 That's the kind of behavior, feeding that into AI to make what kind of trades are going

00:27:17.680 to be most relevant for what they're going to want to do to keep moving their financial

00:27:20.940 interest.

00:27:21.340 Well, and so in the second one of these, the second book, and to be clear, by the way,

00:27:25.960 in the first book, the protagonist does live in a giant trailer park, so I think that part's

00:27:30.600 pretty accurate, yeah, but that, they call it the stacks because they're actually stacked

00:27:34.300 trailers.

00:27:35.040 Well, like cells, like little cubicles or whatever you get to live in a hundred square foot pod.

00:27:38.520 But actually, that'll just be everywhere.

00:27:40.120 That'll be everywhere except for the various nodes of Elysium.

00:27:42.820 But in terms of the second book that you call it, Ready Player Two, it becomes, so they

00:27:49.500 combine AI and Neuralink with the Oasis, and then so it's kind of like, you know how we

00:27:55.900 have, you know, viral videos now, or, oh, did you see this thing on YouTube, you know?

00:28:00.500 My son and I just watched this thing on YouTube the other day where it was a, it's an elephant,

00:28:04.440 like a baby elephant going to drink some water at like a watering hole, and an alligator just

00:28:08.880 comes up and snaps him in the nose, well, in the trunk, right?

00:28:12.240 Yeah.

00:28:12.360 And then all the other elephants come over and just stomp the alligator.

00:28:15.920 We probably watched it 35 times in a row, right?

00:28:18.860 And we love it.

00:28:19.460 It's my three-year-old and me, but whatever.

00:28:21.280 I'm a three-year-old in some ways.

00:28:22.220 Yeah.

00:28:22.320 So, the idea of having a viral video, what they have now through, you know, their version

00:28:28.240 of whatever Neuralink is, viral memories.

00:28:31.640 Yes.

00:28:31.840 So, you are essentially, you know, anyone has an experience, has a memory, oh, and of

00:28:35.940 course in this one, you know, it gets into some of the adult stuff, obviously, you know,

00:28:39.160 experience this way, experience that way, but then, oh, do you want to be Tom Brady winning

00:28:43.300 the World Series, and, you know, boom, now you're beamed into the helmet, and you can smell

00:28:47.780 the sweat, and feel the, you know, the grass of the, you know, but I look at that, and

00:28:54.640 I'm thinking about, okay, this is where people are going, but that's not what it's going to

00:28:58.180 be used for.

00:28:59.240 No.

00:28:59.340 That's not at all what it's going to be used for.

00:29:00.940 It's going to be used for control, and then it's going to be used for war, very, very quickly.

00:29:05.240 Exactly.

00:29:05.820 It's a total removal of cognitive liberty.

00:29:07.900 Yes.

00:29:08.280 So, your freedom of speech can be preserved, too, right?

00:29:10.800 Yeah, right.

00:29:11.440 You have to say whatever you want, but we're going to control how you think before you can speak.

00:29:14.640 And it's total control, absolute control to keep you absolutely servile, and it'll probably

00:29:21.600 feel great.

00:29:22.380 You will own nothing and be happy, right?

00:29:24.420 Oh, yeah.

00:29:24.960 You'll be able to download, you know, whatever, oh, did you watch, did you do this sim yet?

00:29:29.240 Have you went in that sim?

00:29:30.580 Have you been in here?

00:29:31.500 You know, we're just trading that back and forth, and then, cognitively, we will, you

00:29:35.920 know, our lizard brains won't know that we've not actually had that experience.

00:29:41.660 Exactly.

00:29:41.940 Because we will feel, it will be complete sensory immersion.

00:29:45.140 So, you will feel through this that you've actually had that experience, which is terrifying,

00:29:50.320 right?

00:29:50.440 Right.

00:29:50.540 It should be terrifying to so many people.

00:29:52.260 Well, I mean, it's real easy to picture the upside to that, right?

00:29:54.880 Right.

00:29:55.200 But then they need to torture you for some reason.

00:29:57.720 Right, exactly.

00:29:58.420 Imagine which experience they're going to have.

00:29:59.400 This is what I always tell people, though, is I say, oh, that sounds amazing, and, you know,

00:30:03.000 I think about for, you know, people who are, you know, coma patients, or people who are

00:30:08.240 handicapped to be able to experience, you know, walking on a beach, et cetera, and, of

00:30:11.660 course, that's how they sell it, right?

00:30:12.980 Yeah.

00:30:13.120 But then what I always tell people is, I say, okay, that's what you believe, but Mark Zuckerberg

00:30:19.460 is going to be in control of it.

00:30:20.700 That's right.

00:30:21.140 And Mark Zuckerberg keeps a piece of tape over the camera on his laptop.

00:30:24.640 Why?

00:30:25.360 Because how are you going to turn it off?

00:30:27.140 Right.

00:30:27.300 Even Mark Zuckerberg knows he can't turn and control his own camera on his laptop.

00:30:30.640 Right.

00:30:30.740 So how are you going to turn it off?

00:30:32.660 James Comey, too, by the way.

00:30:33.660 Did you see that one?

00:30:34.440 Yeah.

00:30:34.780 James Comey, head of the FBI piece.

00:30:37.460 And I actually remember reading that Bill Gates doesn't have, like, a computer in his

00:30:42.840 house.

00:30:44.200 I think I remember reading that too, yeah.

00:30:45.780 That there's something, and he, like, limits the time that he wanted his kids to be on

00:30:48.460 computers and all this stuff, that, no, he shouldn't have this stuff around.

00:30:51.560 Yeah.

00:30:52.220 No kidding.

00:30:52.720 There's something to be said for that.

00:30:54.260 The same way there's something to be said for the fact that Bill Gates is going around

00:30:57.360 buying up all the food-producing land ahead of inflation because he knows what's going

00:31:01.380 on, and the people managing his money understand what's going on.

00:31:03.960 That's what you're going to need going forward because they understand what they're doing

00:31:07.340 to the money market.

00:31:08.220 Right.

00:31:08.680 So my question is, what do we do?

00:31:11.420 Exactly.

00:31:11.820 Well, when you put it that way, it's a very hard question, but the answer...

00:31:17.220 What does James Lindsay say we do?

00:31:19.240 Sit strongly and tell the truth.

00:31:21.080 Basically.

00:31:21.500 That's my usual MO.

00:31:23.540 No, what has to happen is a lot of people need to catch on.

00:31:27.420 I hate to use it, but to wake up to what's actually going on in the world, and they have

00:31:31.160 to start saying, no, we're not going to go down this road.

00:31:33.500 If we have politicians that want to push us down this road, we get rid of those politicians.

00:31:37.380 We find politicians who want to break up things like the World Economic Forum, start shattering

00:31:41.960 that thing.

00:31:42.520 I love it.

00:31:42.960 Start taking it apart.

00:31:44.520 But what that requires is putting people in power who understand the problem, who are

00:31:47.840 willing to get there, and that starts with a bunch of people, if it means taking to the

00:31:53.120 streets, hopefully it doesn't, but if it means taking to the streets, it means taking to the

00:31:56.140 streets and saying, no, we're not doing this anymore.

00:31:58.820 We're going to remove you from power if you're even somewhat soft on this, if you waver on this.

00:32:03.520 We're going to retain our freedom as a top priority, and it's going to require starting

00:32:08.060 to attack these entities in ways where power can be leveraged against them through people

00:32:12.940 who are willing to use those levers of power effectively.

00:32:15.560 One thing that I always tell, and I was speaking to an influencer, kind of like internal thing

00:32:20.220 here, and I got a similar question, and I said, you know, yes, saying no and stepping up,

00:32:26.780 but also embrace life, just embrace life in its fullness.

00:32:32.340 Get married, have kids, go out there, eat healthy, stop eating the fake food, the fake

00:32:38.360 nutrition that they pour down on us, go down, understand what's in your food, understand what

00:32:42.880 you're putting in your body, you know, don't live, you know, the pharmaceuticals that they're

00:32:46.700 trying to just completely get you.

00:32:48.280 And you look at Zoomers right now, they are the most, I think percentage-wise, the most

00:32:53.060 pharmacized generation that we have seen.

00:32:55.320 It's unbelievable.

00:32:56.700 And they all have a therapist, they're all in something or other, and probably not, you

00:33:00.940 know, we're here at Turning Point AmFest, probably not in these Zoomers, but by and large, 1.00

00:33:05.240 and this is what you need to cut off from, because you need to understand that you have

00:33:09.560 to be ready, look, prepare the child for the path, don't prepare the path for the child.

00:33:14.440 Exactly, exactly right.

00:33:15.120 And so we have to understand, yeah, life is going to be hard.

00:33:17.600 And I have kids, and I always say this, like, so we live, where we live now, it's on a

00:33:21.680 lake, and I have a back gate, and I keep it locked.

00:33:24.040 My kids are three in one, right?

00:33:25.280 You know, they don't know up from down.

00:33:28.080 And so I keep the gate locked.

00:33:30.280 But someday my kid's going to understand how to unlock that gate.

00:33:33.160 Right.

00:33:33.520 And he's going to understand.

00:33:34.560 So then what do I do?

00:33:35.700 Do I build a, do I build, you know, a wall around the lake?

00:33:39.040 Do I, you know, continue to, you know, do I put up signs about how you shouldn't go there?

00:33:44.160 Do I scream at him and yell and yell at him?

00:33:46.320 Or, or do I teach him how to swim?

00:33:50.060 Of course.

00:33:50.940 Yeah, this is, this is key to, exactly like you said.

00:33:54.900 Another very crucial piece is that, especially for a younger generation, needs to start to

00:33:58.880 understand very quickly that real life, and very resonant with what you said, real life

00:34:03.180 is what happens when you're not online.

00:34:04.940 Yes.

00:34:05.220 And real life is worth living, even though it's not ideal, and you're not getting to

00:34:10.840 be Tom Brady winning the Super Bowl, or whatever it happens to be, in some fake memory that

00:34:14.640 was never yours in the first place.

00:34:16.500 Real life has actually got its own charm.

00:34:20.220 And it's what happens when you're not online.

00:34:21.140 Well, and this is what they, that is why they want to put you in passive mode.

00:34:23.360 That's why they want you hooked on, oh, what actor is going to be cast in the next Marvel,

00:34:27.860 the Netflix series that's coming out, the adaptation, are they, you know, are they gender

00:34:32.420 swapping this?

00:34:33.280 Are they race swapping that?

00:34:34.520 That is, and they want you just so caught up in all of that, because they don't want

00:34:39.740 you to be leaning in, living active lives.

00:34:42.700 And I don't mean active in just the physical sense, but actually embracing life in all

00:34:48.100 of its fullness, and deciding that I'm going to be someone who I'm going to be doing so

00:34:52.940 much in my life that I don't even have time.

00:34:55.380 I don't have time to look at those things, because I'm going out, I'm meeting people,

00:34:58.620 I'm making connections, I'm raising my kids, we're having real experiences in the real

00:35:03.280 world, we're living the life that we can live.

00:35:06.280 If they pay attention now, they'll realize, they'll realize it's dissatisfying, you're

00:35:10.360 a little bit bummed, you're a little bit bored.

00:35:11.800 And why are they all anxious, why are they all depressed, why are they all on the therapist's

00:35:15.420 couch?

00:35:15.800 And it will not meet your need.

00:35:17.620 You get on your video game, and you're going to have fun, you can blow off some steam,

00:35:20.500 you can kill some time, but it's not going to meet your need.

00:35:22.600 You know, I quit playing video games completely, in about 2007 or 2008, I was playing World

00:35:26.120 of Warcraft, I was quite into it.

00:35:27.640 I couldn't even tell you the last time I played a video game.

00:35:29.260 And I was grinding my character up, and I thought to myself, one day, it just popped

00:35:33.920 into my head, you know, it's like one of those things, I didn't ask for it, it just showed

00:35:37.220 up.

00:35:37.640 And I thought, wow, I'm putting a lot of effort into making this avatar of myself

00:35:41.080 awesome, when I could be making myself better with this time.

00:35:44.000 Right.

00:35:44.380 And half an hour later, video games stopped being interesting to me.

00:35:47.580 I just, I've never played one again, except as a nostalgia with, like, you know, get the

00:35:51.520 guys together, and we play through the game we played when we were a kid, over, like, Christmas.

00:35:54.520 But other than that...

00:35:55.080 Was it Goldeneye?

00:35:55.920 No, it was Myth.

00:35:57.980 Oh, yeah, I remember Myth.

00:35:59.300 Yeah.

00:35:59.780 Wow.

00:36:00.400 Yeah.

00:36:01.240 Yeah, we did Myst, and we did, uh, we did also Secret of Mana, the old Nintendo, Super

00:36:05.760 Nintendo.

00:36:06.260 Yeah, super old.

00:36:07.140 Yeah, I love Secret of Mana, that was fun, the three-player.

00:36:09.180 There's something, by the way, about those games where it's, it's, you can turn them

00:36:13.800 off.

00:36:14.640 Exactly.

00:36:15.120 Right?

00:36:15.320 There's something, I've noticed this, by the way, with my kid as well, that when we

00:36:19.700 watch, like, older, you know, uh, TV shows, stuff from 80s, 90s, or before, you know, he

00:36:28.300 can sort of unglue himself and go off and do something else, but you put on one of these

00:36:32.060 newer shows with the flashing lights, and the really, really bright colors, he is just

00:36:37.420 plugged in.

00:36:38.800 Yeah.

00:36:38.940 He's so plugged in.

00:36:39.840 Well, they figured out, from what I understand, they figured out exactly how often they have

00:36:44.040 to change a scene, or put a flash, or a bright color.

00:36:45.980 Yeah, that's exactly right.

00:36:46.580 That actual, like, it resets your attention span.

00:36:49.260 Correct.

00:36:49.360 So your attention span never shuts down.

00:36:51.320 Right.

00:36:51.420 I bet you it's the exact same pace, if you're sitting there bored one night, you don't have

00:36:54.460 anything to do, guilty, mea culpa, and you're on Twitter, and you're just like, you pull

00:36:58.940 your finger down.

00:36:59.860 Who goes on Twitter?

00:37:00.420 What are you doing on Twitter for, James?

00:37:02.420 No, neither of us.

00:37:02.500 No, we're never on Twitter.com, we're never on the list.

00:37:04.860 I'm never, that's a bad website.

00:37:05.340 No, but you know, you're bored, and you're sitting there, and you hit the refresh, and nothing's

00:37:09.200 there, and you hit the refresh again, I bet you it's the exact same pacing.

00:37:13.800 Get out of my head, James Lindsay, get out of my head.

00:37:15.940 And I bet you that's how they figured out what that pacing is.

00:37:17.300 Those are my thoughts, stay out of there.

00:37:19.060 Oh, no.

00:37:19.320 That's, you know, that's, that's exact, when I hit the refresh, when I hit, you are the

00:37:23.080 Jack, yeah, when I hit the refresh, and there's nothing new, I'm like, well, now what do I do?

00:37:27.680 Yeah, where, where are my people?

00:37:29.520 No, and that's, and that's for me, and look, there's a lot worse addictions to have out there,

00:37:33.900 but, you know, when it comes to Twitter, that's something where I do view it as a fight,

00:37:38.520 and I'm, I'm naturally contrarian and argumentative, and it's just, it is the perfect trap for

00:37:44.360 me mentally.

00:37:45.060 Yeah, me too, it's my arena.

00:37:47.200 Exactly, exactly right, and, and Tim Pool had a great line about this, you know, talk, well,

00:37:50.260 he was talking about YouTube, but he said, because people say, oh, what are you still using that

00:37:53.180 for, that's, you know, that's the bad guys platform, and I said, I'm not going to get

00:37:55.580 off the battlefield, because the battlefield is dangerous, right, you know, so I'm going to

00:37:59.320 stay, but at the same time, you know, I do have to step back and say, you know what, this

00:38:04.900 is some person online that I'm never going to see in real life.

00:38:08.520 Yeah.

00:38:08.760 That's never going to have an effect on me, but I've got two little boys over here, and

00:38:13.280 I've got a wife, and I've got a house, and they, they need my attention more, and they

00:38:18.600 matter more, and they're going to go on long after I've punched my ticket, and I'm out.

00:38:24.100 Yeah.

00:38:25.440 And the minute I start thinking about that, I don't even think about the phone anymore.

00:38:29.360 It's irrelevant.

00:38:30.120 Yeah.

00:38:30.300 And then you hit this point a few minutes later, it's like, why do I even do that?

00:38:33.500 You don't even want to.

00:38:34.420 So the difference is, I think, and we're getting close to the end of our time here,

00:38:38.620 so I would just say, live a life worth living.

00:38:41.720 Yeah, that's the answer.

00:38:42.960 Live also the life they don't want you to live.

00:38:44.800 Right.

00:38:45.180 Right?

00:38:45.940 Yeah, they don't want you to have faith.

00:38:47.420 You don't have to have a family.

00:38:49.100 You don't have to have the nine to five.

00:38:51.240 You don't need to be a cog.

00:38:52.500 You don't need to be just a part of the machine commuting back and forth, you know.

00:38:56.520 And this is actually why, in some ways, the great resignation is another silver lining

00:39:01.960 of COVID that I embraced, because a lot of people step back and look at their lives and

00:39:06.720 said, why am I doing that?

00:39:08.320 Why am I driving an hour to work, chaining myself to a desk, nine to five, and this is

00:39:13.080 both genders, by the way, driving an hour back, come home, traffic sucks, I'm crabby, 0.99

00:39:19.460 I'm upset, I barely spend any time with my kids, you snap at them.

00:39:23.280 Not me, by the way.

00:39:24.520 No, never.

00:39:25.000 But you get it out on your staff.

00:39:26.080 Never, I get it on my staff, yeah, of course, that's what they're there for.

00:39:29.600 And they said, you know, maybe there's a better way, maybe I can do freelancing, maybe Fiverr.com

00:39:35.740 is a way to do it, maybe podcasting, maybe start something else.

00:39:38.740 You know, there are so many ways to make money.

00:39:41.580 We've got Morgan Zegers here, she makes American flags out of wood and sells them on Instagram. 0.77

00:39:46.580 That's awesome.

00:39:47.180 And like, she literally just, she talks about this, but she said she paid off all of her

00:39:50.680 student loans by doing that.

00:39:51.760 That's amazing.

00:39:52.260 So, you know, why not do that?

00:39:55.160 Yeah, good for her.

00:39:55.760 Another big thing with Turning Point, and Charlie talks about it a lot, is why go?

00:39:59.420 Why go to college in the first place?

00:40:01.260 Yeah.

00:40:01.440 If we have all of these tools right now, if the information is out, at least for now,

00:40:06.060 you can go and get it.

00:40:08.000 It's like, you know, the Wright brothers were high school dropouts.

00:40:11.860 Yeah, exactly.

00:40:12.440 And what did we just see in the Olympics, where the Indian guy trained himself watching YouTube 0.70

00:40:16.580 videos to throw javelins and won the gold medal?

00:40:18.580 Yeah.

00:40:19.160 Using YouTube.

00:40:19.980 Exactly.

00:40:20.480 That was his trainer, YouTube.

00:40:21.600 Exactly.

00:40:22.000 This is a problem for a lot of these systems.

00:40:24.300 James, we are getting close to the end of our time.

00:40:26.240 This is actually a really good interview, and it did not be more substantive than I thought it

00:40:29.440 would be, so thank you for that.

00:40:30.740 Yeah, absolutely.

00:40:31.300 Thank you.

00:40:31.620 And where can people go to follow you?

00:40:34.680 What do you want to promote?

00:40:36.080 Et cetera.

00:40:36.700 I got at Conceptual James on Twitter and other social media mirroring it.

00:40:40.440 At New Discourses is the company.

00:40:42.440 NewDiscourses.com is the website.

00:40:43.800 I got a book coming, hopefully next month.

00:40:46.020 It's in the typesetting process now.

00:40:47.820 It's going to be called Race Marxism. 0.77

00:40:49.160 It's going to explain exactly what the title says.

00:40:51.400 Perfect.

00:40:51.800 About critical race theory.

00:40:52.700 Yes, perfect.

00:40:53.340 It's all in the works.

00:40:54.400 That's what you got to check out.

00:40:55.400 Awesome.

00:40:55.680 Ladies and gentlemen, the great James Lindsay.

00:40:57.960 Make sure you, and I always tell everybody, everywhere homework is, to share this out with

00:41:02.820 one normie friend.

00:41:05.040 Ladies and gentlemen, as always, you have my permission to lay ashore.

Human Events Daily with Jack Posobiec - December 28, 2021

HUMAN EVENTS DAILY： DR. JAMES LINDSAY ON THE GREAT RESET AND CRT

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