Steve Bannon, the former White House Chief Strategist, joins Jack and Charlie to discuss how to turn things around in the face of economic, political, and cultural decline, and why it s so important to have a 30,000-foot view of where we re going.
00:02:28.000The regime is just there to sort of manage this down, see if we can – you know, is Ukraine going to come with us?
00:02:32.660So can we get a couple of things, you know, while the place is falling apart, or is there a possibility for the people of this country, the people who love freedom and embrace freedom around the world, to actually stand up and say, no, we don't want to go into that dark night?
00:02:47.900And it is a bigger question, and so I thought I couldn't think of a bigger thinker on these type of things than you.
00:02:52.940Let me talk about how you turn it around.
00:02:54.900You just said how we're going to turn it around.
00:02:57.500What you and Charlie Kirk and Turning Point – look, the great thing about what you guys are doing and what I love about it, and I've sent, obviously, my daughter and all the younger members of our team out there to be engaged in this, is young people have to be involved.
00:03:11.260Young people have to understand they have not just a stake, they have the stake in this turnaround from this 40- or 50-year decline of the Judeo-Christian West, and we are in managed decline.
00:03:26.640We're about to go to unmanaged decline.
00:03:29.040Managed decline has been bad enough, but right now, of all those different aspects you see every day, the Biden administration and things that are happening in Europe, we're about to go into freefall decline.
00:03:39.820And what's going to turn it around are patriots and sovereigntists, whether they're in India, Italy, the United Kingdom, France, Brazil, the United States, Australia, Japan.
00:03:52.960This is what's going to turn this around, and it's going to be led by young people.
00:03:56.180I keep saying young people are the new greatest generation.
00:03:58.700We've been in managed decline now for 40 or 50 years, and the reason is, since World War II, or from, I guess, the early or mid-'60s, because we lost confidence in our underlying values.
00:04:10.440Jack, you and I talk about this a lot, and it's one of the reasons I so love Eastern Europe, and I particularly love the captive nations of Eastern Europe, and the Poles particularly.
00:04:22.980Because they, for so many years, really so many centuries, have understood how precious liberty is.
00:04:30.460Look, I did the numbers on that, Steve.
00:04:32.300It was, for 173 of the last 200 years, Poland was either partitioned, occupied, annexed, or controlled by a communist regime, some foreign occupying power.
00:04:46.260For 173 of the past 200 years, and that you look at Poland now, since the 1990s, when they are threatened, when anybody comes at them, whether it's economically or whether it's physically with these caravans, you will not find any country, really, I think, anywhere in the world, maybe Israel, that more fiercely defends their borders and defends their people.
00:05:06.500Never again. I mean, when we say, when you just said all that about people having control, that means you're a battlefield.
00:05:13.920You have no stability, no civic society.
00:05:17.500You're always, people cannot feel comfortable.
00:05:19.480You've always got the specter of destruction or total control over your life and your children's lives.
00:05:26.820This is what, those people understand what sovereignty and liberty is, and I think that's what's, divine providence works in mysterious ways,
00:05:34.600and it was providential that the election got stolen on November 3rd, like it was providential Trump won in 2016, because now the mask is off.
00:05:55.740You know, the absolute disregard for our sovereignty on the southern border and then geopolitically and with our finances.
00:06:02.440It's all out there, and that's why nobody, you can't be in the middle anymore.
00:06:05.940You've got to be on one side or the other, right?
00:06:08.080You have to be, you have to be on one side.
00:06:09.900You have to be, you either have to be with us or you have to be with the other side.
00:06:14.340Well, you know, it's amazing that the great Libby Emmons from Post Millennial had a quote that when we were on Tim Pool's show the other night,
00:06:22.260and she said, you know, it used to be that we all had the same goal.
00:06:27.800We just had different ideas about how to get there, but now it seems that only one side still has that original goal,
00:06:34.720and the other side has a completely separate goal in mind.
00:10:56.420You're seeing that intensity, that urgency, that focus is not just innervating people.
00:11:03.780It is bringing them to a cause, and that causes sovereignty in our nation, this incredible constitutional republic that was bequeathed to us.
00:11:14.560And, of course, according to Burke, we owe as much to those that came before us as we owe to future generations.
00:11:19.520That's why I think you're seeing this younger generation that is dawning on them that systemically, the way the system works, is you're nothing but a Russian serf.
00:11:32.220But you don't own anything, and you're not going to own anything.
00:11:35.800And there's more of a concentration of wealth, and you're just going to pay the rent on the asset, whether it's a house or an apartment.
00:11:42.820And you're just on this kind of wheel, the wheel of samsara.
00:11:45.440And they give you a little bit of credit, and you get a little more credit as you work harder.
00:11:49.240But you're on just a continual wheel, like a hamster.
00:11:53.760I think people are coming to the awakening to the fact that that's not how it has to be.
00:11:57.940And, in fact, it can't be free men and women cannot live in a society like that, because that's really just building a kind of a proletariat.
00:12:24.800That's what got us here generations ago.
00:12:27.040And I think young people today, more than ever, and particularly people engaged, and it doesn't take a lot.
00:12:32.720When you talk about AMFEST having 10,000 and Turning Point and all these people, a 10,000-person cadre right now in this country, informed, motivated, and using its agency, can change the world.
00:12:46.480It was those people stood in the breach, and they had a message.
00:12:50.460They're not going to win, and they don't have to win.
00:12:52.940It's not inevitable that they're going to win, although they own – they control high culture, pop culture, Hollywood media, the tech oligarchs, the woke corporations.
00:13:01.480They control every branch of our government.
00:13:04.200The national security state doesn't mean that they're won and doesn't mean we're going to allow them to win.
00:13:09.940But they – this was the Marcusean strategy, right?
00:13:13.300This was the long march through the institutions.
00:13:15.420Well, I think that for me – and I've been thinking about this – is that what we need is the long march through the people.
00:13:23.660The long march through the people of the United States, the people of the United Kingdom, the people of India, the people of Japan, the people, by the way, of China, the Lao Baixing of China that I got to meet and I got to know when I lived there.
00:13:52.900But they want the same things fundamentally that we want, and they realize that it's the government structures, the regimes, this sort of anti-progress type of mentality that's been imposed in front of them.
00:14:07.840That's really what's driving all of this.
00:14:10.440And so, of course, well, with China, it was the CCP.
00:14:17.000Just for our audience, because a lot of people may not realize Jack's fluent in Mandarin as a former naval intelligence officer specialty is the Chinese military in China.
00:14:55.200My dad is the prototypical blue-collar father who never went to college, who just worked hard as far as alignment in the phone company, eventually became a foreman, and then got into lower-level management towards the end of his 50-year career as a phone company guy.
00:15:16.980And what does global Lao Baixing want?
00:15:22.140They want to get married, man and wife, have the traditional family, children, but have an income that if their spouse doesn't want to work, doesn't have to work, that you can live on one income and the other spouse focuses on raising the family.
00:15:41.900And this is a global drive, and these people just want to be left alone.
00:16:19.900If the landed aristocracy in England, what have you guys allowed that happen?
00:16:23.720Because we also point out that the founders were very careful to not make the American Revolution and then the American Constitution into something that the French Revolution turned into, right?
00:16:37.320So the French Revolution, they overthrow the monarchs, and then the guillotines start rolling out, and the priests start going, and Notre Dame gets turned over.
00:16:46.020And that's not what the American founders were about.
00:16:50.980Remember, the French Revolution, it was the social order just like Mao.
00:16:55.320Remember, the French Revolution is the railhead of all the communist rivers, the Bolsheviks afterwards, the Nazis go after the traditional family.
00:17:04.760Yes, they go after the aristocracy too.
00:17:06.540But if you look at the French Revolution, the real revolutionaries was we have to break the core of society, right?
00:17:13.080We will redo the calendar, the days of the week, we'll get rid of religion.
00:17:17.620They took Notre Dame and turned it into a temple to reason, right?
00:17:36.420But we've let that slip away as we've let the power of technology – and this is one of the things that we now preach on the show all the time is this thing called transhumanism.
00:17:43.900Is that you're seeing – and this is why I say climate change is another misdirection play.
00:17:49.820Is climate change – hey, I'm not still sure of the math about it.
00:17:53.520I'm still not convinced of it, whether it's more as the cycles of the sun or human efforts.
00:17:59.800But hey, there's an argument you can have and you can understand more.
00:18:02.740But one thing I do know is we are hurtling towards something that is so revolutionary.
00:18:07.760At this time when globalization has totally changed the planet and you have patriots sitting there for their sovereignty, fighting for the sovereignty of their own countries or their own nation makes decisions, at the same time, you're having this exponential acceleration in technology in these verticals of biotechnology, advanced chip design, robotics and artificial intelligence, and quantum computing.
00:18:30.880You combine those five, we have – and every day you see these radical changes.
00:18:37.020And I got to tell you, Jack, it's the thing that worries me.
00:18:39.920The battle I know we're going to win is to take our country back.
00:18:45.560We got to use – but this whole concept of human 2.0 is something that scares me to the core of my being because that is one right now that is ours.
00:18:55.040We're fighting this other fight that is so out of control.
00:18:57.440Elon Musk, and I realize at AmFest, I'm sure Elon Musk gets 90% approval, but here's the reality.
00:19:04.840Time Magazine and the Financial Times, for the first time I think ever, and I followed these two for my 67 years.
00:19:42.780So when you have – it's Oculus, right, and Palmer Luckey and everything, the video games that he set up, that's a stepping stone.
00:19:50.920The real goal is that – and when they say you're not going to own anything, oh, you will own things, right?
00:19:55.500You'll just own them in the virtual space.
00:19:57.860You'll own them in Mark Zuckerberg's world because you'll be living in some little cubicle-type commune apartment, Soviet block housing kind of thing,
00:20:07.720while the drugs are free-flowing throughout the streets.
00:20:11.020The crime, the decline of our cities is all around us, all around you.
00:20:14.260But you won't even know because you'll have your Neuralink, and you'll be plugged right into Mark Zuckerberg's world,
00:20:19.100and then you're going to have all the fact-checkers and all the censors and the regime overlords and all the drugs on top of this.
00:20:24.860You won't know, and more importantly, Jack, you won't care.
00:20:29.620The new drug will be – the new spice from Dune.
00:21:07.340You've got life extension, and you have life augmentation.
00:21:11.060Human augmentation and life extension.
00:21:13.520That's where it kind of converges to a degree in what Elon Musk is working with at Neuralink.
00:21:18.400It's both massive human augmentation that takes what Palmer Luckey and those guys working with virtual reality is like –
00:21:27.400that's like the Bronze Age of this, right?
00:21:31.540Very early on, although Palmer Luckey is a genius, and what those guys are a genius.
00:21:35.940The metaverse and what you're going to see on just your computer or even getting away from – it's going to be the embodied internet – is also just another step, but still like the Bronze Age Plus.
00:21:49.400The chips themselves and artificial general intelligence, once that – with the biotechnology, with CRISPR and the ability to change your basically DNA, then you're talking about – when I say human extension, life extension, immortality, augmentation, something augmented beyond homo sapien.
00:22:11.920And then when you combine it with CRISPR and biotechnology, you're talking about human 2.0.
00:22:17.420That will be – for people at AmFest, that is going to be in the lived experience of your life.
00:22:23.840I think it's going to be in the lived experience of my life.
00:22:26.120It's definitely going to be in the lived experience of your life.
00:22:28.400And that's when all politics, culture and society – politics will change.
00:22:33.040This is – hear me now in December of 2021.
00:22:37.140This will be one of the most important issues, I think, in 2024 at the latest of future politics is this whole concept of homo sapien – human 2.0 or homo sapien.
00:22:50.100And Steve, though, the way that we have to look at this – and I was a naval officer.
00:22:56.280Look, we know that if you go back not very long in our past, we had something called the Industrial Revolution.
00:23:02.360And the Industrial Revolution led to some of the greatest wars that this planet has ever seen, devastation and destruction of an industrial scale.
00:23:19.100And when I see this type of technology – and I remember – and it was Vladimir Putin who said it – whoever wins the arms race of AI will control the world.
00:23:28.760So you add the element of space in that, obviously.
00:23:33.200Then you also add the element of AI into this.
00:23:37.840And I just think of how all of this technology – and, of course, when Elon Musk talks about it, when all these people talk about it, they say, oh, it's going to be wonderful.
00:23:46.960But I also remember the same way that I heard them talking about, oh, we're just going to – we're going to take these viruses, and we're going to bring them to a lab of Wuhan, and we're going to give them gain-of-function.
00:24:23.720Let's step back for a second to the Industrial Revolution.
00:24:25.640When the steam engine – what, in the early part of the 19th century, the conflicts were horrible, and the Napoleonic War and all that was horrible.
00:24:35.120But look at just the change in a couple of decades of the Civil War.
00:24:38.120The reason that the slaughter in the Civil War was so horrific is Jack's point.
00:24:42.640Technology started to get ahead of the tactics, the strategy, the concept.
00:24:48.380Right, that's how you were able to have light infantry.
00:24:50.580Yeah, they all fought in Napoleonic terms, but now you actually had the weaponry and the machinery to do it, and that's what leading into the 20th century.
00:25:00.160I would love to be able to say that all of this is going to be sweetness and light, and we're going to take half time off.
00:25:07.640We're going to have to worry – the biggest thing we're going to have to worry about is guaranteed – the guaranteed income because you're going to have so much leisure, right?
00:25:15.280I don't think that's going to work out.
00:25:29.280And that is why it was handed down to us.
00:25:31.740It is a necessary manual and a guideline for your life in any time.
00:25:36.460And by the way, and I do say this, and I don't know if Charlie would agree with me when I say this, but imagine if Christ came today, right?
00:25:43.900He would be using these exact terms to explain this to us.
00:25:47.780He'd be talking about DNA, and he'd be talking about dimensionality.
00:25:51.280He would be – because he's using the understanding of the people that he's speaking to to be able to – that's why he speaks in parables.
00:25:59.460He talks about the mustard because that was a nomadic desert culture that he was talking to.
00:26:03.400If he came back 2021, if he came today and he was teaching us again, these are the exact terms that he would be using.
00:26:10.920And also about the Bible, I think this is the thing that haunts me the most about all of this when I study it and we're in the middle of it.
00:26:18.500There was a time when Christ sent out – I think it's in Mark that sent out the disciples and the apostles to go out and teach on their own for a while.
00:26:26.900And they came back, and a couple of them said, you know, we've been doing some small miracles and healing people, but they keep saying that you gave us this power because you're Beelzebub, right?
00:26:37.780You're a dark power, and that's how we were able to do this, and it's all some sort of trick.
00:26:42.660And he said, look, don't worry what people say about you.
00:27:09.640And every Christian apologist I've ever read has never been able to explain that enough to make sense until we're here now.
00:27:19.480The fundamental difference in what we're doing is that we are endowed by the Holy Spirit.
00:27:27.900We're embodied – we are a temple for the Holy Spirit.
00:27:30.580The merger of silicon and chips and changed DNA and biotechnology, man playing God, and regenerative robotics and artificial intelligence, that is not touched or endowed by the Holy Spirit.
00:27:45.700That is the fundamental line of demarcation.
00:27:48.040That, to me, is what Christ told us over 2,000 years ago.
00:27:59.800And to me, that is what's leading us to a path that's for – because in this regard, remember, every patriot that's watching this, it goes to human events, watch Jack's podcast, sees us on temple, come to the war room, go to AmFest, or watch Tucker.
00:28:20.040It's because we've sat there and we focused on the lies and misrepresentation of Biden, the globalists, and we're going to win this fight.
00:28:26.080Now, that, I'm as sure as the turning of the earth.
00:28:29.980The other one, that question is still out there, and that's going to be a tough one, because in this regard, the entire apparatus is allied against you, right?
00:28:39.600It is allied against you, and it's so powerful and so overwhelming, and this is where – this is really the empire strikes back, and it's going to be incredibly important for people to understand it deeply and to see that this is a line of demarcation.
00:28:52.980A thousand years from now, when they've forgotten everything that we fought for here on many different aspects, the one thing they will talk about is that these were the last years or decades of homo sapiens, and that's what this age will be known as.
00:29:08.660And it's, to me, very important that we're on the right side of the football.
00:29:13.600We're on the side of football, that divine providence – that we're on the side of the angels in this one, and it is a deep fight, a battle, and nothing more important, probably, I say this reservedly, in the history of mankind.
00:29:28.560Right, because look, when I say, you know, when I see people like the CCP embracing these types of technologies, they don't have the same kind of moral guardrails that the West does, or the West did at one point, right?
00:29:41.840They don't have the Christian background. They don't have the ethos. They don't have the Bible. They have, we want to win. How do we win? You take these policies –
00:29:50.000You know it better than anybody. They're atheists. They're hardcore atheistic materialists.
00:29:53.000They go, and they say, they want Taiwan. They take –
00:29:56.100But this is why life extension is so big. Remember, we believe that this is just an interim step. We're here for a period of human agency.
00:30:04.400We have eternal life on the other side, right? Even the Hindus, they think of cycles, but they think of the other life spiritually.
00:30:13.420For an atheistic materialist, when it ends, remember what Robespierre and these guys put on the cemeteries over in revolutionary France.
00:30:24.000Here lies eternal sleep. It's over. It's done. There's nothing else. Once it ends, it ends. That is the core of atheistic Marxist materialism, right?
00:30:35.360But also, there's no judgment. There is – because this is the key difference, right? It's not just eternity and you get passed on, and then, okay, you get to go to heaven.
00:30:46.940No, no, no, no. It's eternity in one place or another, and that's the key difference, is that what we do here – it's the old line, right?
00:30:55.320What we do here echoes an eternity, right? The way you live your life – and for me personally, it's what I always say is one day I'm going to be brought before those gates.
00:31:05.720And the – you know, my guardian angel will be there, and he'll say, here's all the things you did well, and then Satan will be there, and he'll say, here's all this stuff too.
00:31:13.180And he's going to have every single thing listed. He's going to have a big book, and God will be there.
00:31:17.060And he said, Posobik, I gave you a platform. I gave you the ability to talk to all these people. What did you do with it?
00:31:23.540Did you bring them to me? Did you bring them to me?
00:31:27.720Weight and measured. We'll be looking for mercy, not justice.
00:31:41.840You want this life extended in perpetuity.
00:31:45.160Look, Project Veritas, when they did the Facebook hit, the guy at Facebook was trying to impress the girl.
00:31:50.360If you look at the three or four episodes he had, he's talking about how they were involved in politics and everything about Zuckerberg and Zuckerbox and all the things laid out.
00:31:57.780But at the end, he said the real thing.
00:32:01.060By the way, Zuckerberg and his wife don't spend all that much time with.
00:32:04.200But they're really focused on his life extension, immortality.
00:32:08.240This is where most of this money is going in transhumanism is life extension for the elites.
00:32:34.660She goes – well, they said – she's talking about carrying – and that's a concept I've heard them use behind the scenes.
00:32:40.360In fact, when we restructured the biosphere, I got to know back in the 90s a ton of major players that became major players today.
00:32:47.700And they used to talk about the carrying capacity of the earth.
00:32:49.560I was going, what are you talking about?
00:32:50.640I said, well, it's not – they want a earth that has somewhere between 500 million and a billion people in it, right?
00:32:57.280That's what they said, and closer to 500 million.
00:33:00.200Jane Goodall said – they said they should give an interview, and they go, well, what's the perfect – they're talking about the environment.
00:33:05.540They said, well, things are so polluted.
00:33:07.440What's the perfect stabilization number for the earth?
00:33:11.020And she goes, oh, it's probably in the year 1500.
00:33:13.720In the year 1500, there were 500 million people on earth.
00:33:32.700You can see that that's what they're driving for.
00:33:35.020This is as obvious as anything in clarity.
00:33:38.400This is what is going to be a massive, massive battle.
00:33:41.020And you're going to see people reforming coalitions and alliances about this.
00:33:47.040One of the first things about human augmentation, there's this new article that we've got up last week on the site right before Christmas was that – about human augmentation.
00:34:01.560One of the guys who's not on our side of the football is arguing human augmentation has already started.
00:34:07.320And the start of that was the experimental gene therapy that was the mRNA vaccine.
00:35:46.000If we have a cadre of dedicated, right, a vanguard of dedicated, focused, intelligent, hard-as-nails individuals, we will not only save this nation.
00:35:59.540We will save the entire Judeo-Christian West.
00:36:02.100And in saving the Judeo-Christian West and being faithful to the core tenets of that civilization, we will save mankind.
00:36:11.500And so I – and I'm not trying to be too grandiose.
00:36:14.380That is what's on the table right now.
00:36:18.640And if you don't do it, if people in this audience don't do it, it's over.
00:36:23.060If people in this audience get engaged and stay engaged and have the same sense of urgency, energy, and action, action, action, we can pull this off.
00:36:50.000Did I overhear once that you kind of do the Edison thing where you're not sleeping eight hours a night but you're sleeping in a little bit here?
00:36:58.740Like when you're on deployment and you only have to get like –
00:38:02.380And it's a way – there's something that we wouldn't even consider to question that for the majority of human history was not the way people live their lives.
00:38:11.540Look, we can't all be Jack Posobiec, but we can use Jack Posobiec as a marker.
00:38:16.080One of the things I'm incredibly impressed with you, Jack, I can get up any time and hit my device or go to my device and check your Twitter feed.
00:38:26.940And it's not just the engagement of what's happening.
00:38:29.720It's the breadth of ideas that you cover.
00:39:01.100When you look at Posobiec's Twitter feed or Getter feed, you see someone that's immersed in it.
00:39:06.560And that's what I think you have to do.
00:39:07.720Remember, one piece of advice I can give you.
00:39:10.260When you check out and you've got to go stand and deliver with your final report, with your guardian angel and then the bad guys on the other side, when you're arguing your case, you want to leave it all on the field.
00:39:24.060And that's – if we have the people at AmFest and other people that are galvanizing around these concepts, if you completely dedicate yourself, make it an immersive experience, and commit that you're going to leave it all on the field, first off, all of a sudden, you'll feel this great surge of energy and, hey, I have task and I have purpose.
00:39:44.480And if you leave it all on the field, we're going to win this thing.
00:39:47.520But that's the only way we're going to live it.
00:39:49.420We can't – we can't – you're not going to be able to phone this in.
00:39:52.280We're not going to be able to talk this through.
00:39:53.960This is going to take action and it's going to take a lot of action over a sustained period of time.
00:39:59.680One thing that I was actually saying earlier today, I was speaking to a group of young people, people who have been sort of nominated as Turning Point Ambassadors, and it was a private thing.
00:40:10.320And they asked, you know, what do we do to affect culture?
00:40:13.320And I said, you know, and we got to talking to – and someone actually asked us about Metaverse and, you know, how do we respond to that?
00:40:29.300You know, what you just said, leave everything out on the table, right?
00:40:32.420When I'm with my kids, when I'm with my family, when I'm raising them, when I'm teaching our traditions, my family's traditions, when we pray in Latin, and I know that there were members of my family that were praying to their kids in Latin for a thousand years, right?
00:40:48.720And you realize that you are part of that unbroken tapestry going all the way back, right?
00:40:54.760That these are the traditions that sustained us.
00:41:00.280You know, we are all going to check out one day.
00:41:02.020And so I said to them, look, you don't have to be on Twitter and Getter and everything else 100 hours a day like I am, right?
00:41:08.040But if you're out there, you're living your life, you're living that traditional role, you are standing up, you're finding your purpose, you're finding that task, you're fighting this thing, and you just show.
00:42:10.860But then she would wake up at, like, 1 or 2 in the morning, and then she would just be up for the rest of the day.
00:42:15.940And what she would do is she had a notebook.
00:42:18.780And in that notebook, she would have the names written down of every single person that she could think of that she wanted to pray for.
00:42:26.680And it was just hundreds and hundreds of names.
00:42:29.700And she would say a prayer for every single person just going down that list.
00:42:32.680And some of it would be abstract, like praying for the country or praying for children or praying for people in need, you know, praying for victims of horrific crimes and trafficking and drug abuse and mental, you know, mental challenges and everything else.
00:42:47.060And she would go through and pray for every single one of them.
00:42:50.420I really believe it was a vocation that was given to her.
00:42:53.140And you would – you know, sometimes we find out and say, oh, grandma left her notebook downstairs again.
00:42:57.040She lived with us when we were little.
00:42:58.020And I think that there's so much that goes on and that people don't realize is going on in the Chinese house churches underneath the wicked regime of the CCP over there.
00:43:09.020The prayers that are happening of the Uyghurs that are in the concentration camps, the prayers that are going on throughout the country.
00:43:15.380I really do feel – and, you know, I'll ask you the question as we're heading out here.
00:43:19.720I feel like God is about to make a move and to make himself known.
00:43:27.660And I think that somewhere within the next couple months, next couple of years, something will happen where we're going to say that was not done by man.
00:43:39.400I think you see that in the 16 campaign with Trump's victory.
00:43:42.840I actually think you see it in the big steel.
00:43:44.640I think you see it out at Amfest in Phoenix.
00:43:46.380I think he's – I think that divine providence is manifesting himself through this cadre.
00:43:55.920And that's why you're called to this worker.
00:43:57.780Look, everybody could go do something different and make a lot more money and have a lot in your life, make a lot easier life.
00:44:05.220If you knew how much money they were throwing at me when I was in Shanghai and they said, you speak Mandarin, you understand U.S. politics, come stay here.
00:44:13.100You work in this one, you work for Disney, you work this client, that client, American Chamber.
00:44:18.820And that's why I love when people say, oh, Posobiec's just doing this from what I am.
00:44:53.740It's the only time I've ever gone, you know, I'm trying to be Jack Posobiec and I check my numbers every day to make sure I'm a bigger influencer than Jack Posobiec.
00:44:59.820Oh, you're doing the and get one because Jason has, right.
00:45:01.980He showed me the spreadsheet before, but he hasn't showed it to me in a while.
00:45:35.800Well, God bless you and we're going to be continuing to pray for you.
00:45:38.540And I don't know if I ever said this publicly, but thank you.
00:45:41.320Thank you for so much for everything you've done for me, for my family, for giving me a voice, for having me as first guest on War Room Pandemic, just talking China and everything else.